16.) An Honest Conversation About Mero at HOT 97 + Friday Freedom (1/16/26)
70 min
•Jan 16, 20264 months agoSummary
Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg discuss the controversial circumstances around Mero's new morning show at HOT 97, their own departure from the station, and the challenges of transitioning to independent podcast content. The hosts reflect on workplace dynamics, family responsibilities, and the importance of authenticity in media.
Insights
- Radio station departures are often framed as performance failures by media narratives, but internal metrics may tell a different story about ratings and management decisions
- Workplace conflicts often stem from management direction and business decisions rather than personal animosity, requiring hosts to balance authenticity with professional diplomacy
- Independent podcast creators face significant challenges in content distribution and monetization compared to traditional radio, requiring strategic planning around sponsorships and audience engagement
- Postpartum mental health and relationship maintenance require intentional effort and external support; partners need to actively nurture their relationships during major life transitions
- Social media perception of professional moves is heavily influenced by tone and context; what feels authentic privately can be misinterpreted publicly without proper framing
Trends
Radio talent transitioning to independent YouTube/podcast platforms to maintain audience and creative controlImportance of video content distribution for radio shows to reach internet-native audiences who don't tune into traditional radioWorkplace culture discussions becoming more transparent in media, with hosts openly discussing management conflicts and business decisionsAudience loyalty following talent rather than brands, with listeners subscribing to YouTube channels immediately after radio show cancellationsPostpartum mental health awareness and partner support becoming normalized topics in mainstream media conversationsNarrative control and brand storytelling as critical business functions for independent media creatorsSponsorship and monetization strategies shifting from traditional advertising to direct audience support and merchandiseGenerational shifts in radio consumption, with younger audiences discovering content through YouTube rather than terrestrial radio
Topics
HOT 97 radio station management and talent transitionsMero's new morning show launch and industry receptionIndependent podcast production and YouTube distribution strategyRadio talent negotiations and contract renewal decisionsWorkplace culture and management-talent relationshipsSocial media perception management and authentic communicationPostpartum mental health and relationship maintenanceContent monetization through sponsorships and merchandiseAudience loyalty and brand vs. talent followingNew York hip-hop radio history and cultural significanceNarrative control in media and public perceptionFirst birthday parenting and family stress managementAI tools for content creation and productivityMusic discovery and artist support in streaming eraDiversity and allyship in media and entertainment
Companies
HOT 97
Radio station where hosts worked; recent management changes and talent departures discussed throughout episode
Adobe
Acrobat Studio product featured in pre-roll ad for PDF document management and AI-powered workflows
YouTube
Primary distribution platform for the new Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show after HOT 97 departure
Instagram
Social media platform used for audience engagement, merchandise links, and content promotion
Twitter/X
Platform where hosts' statements about Mero were misinterpreted and criticized by online audience
Patreon
Mentioned as potential supporter platform for audience to financially support the show
People
Ebro
Co-host discussing HOT 97 departure, Mero congratulations controversy, and family matters
Laura
Co-host providing perspective on workplace dynamics, postpartum experiences, and show production
Rosenberg
Co-host discussing HOT 97 situation, family matters with one-year-old daughter, and show direction
Mero
Launched new morning show at HOT 97; subject of controversy regarding hosts' congratulatory messaging
Joe Budden
Publicly defended hosts' ratings performance on his podcast, validating their success at HOT 97
Siphon
Recorded initial podcast episode with Ebro that was deleted due to disagreement; later re-recorded
Charlamagne
Mentioned in closing shout-outs as part of hosts' professional network
Andrew Schultz
Mentioned in closing shout-outs as part of hosts' professional network
Mr. C
Deceased HOT 97 legend whose passing marked symbolic end of station's golden era for Rosenberg
Natalie
Celebrated one-year postpartum anniversary; discussed as subject of relationship maintenance efforts
Eric Abadu
Provided sage advice about postpartum support and maintaining relationships during major life transitions
Quotes
"Hot 97 will be in my heart forever. It defines me until the day I die. Nothing about it will ever be so great again."
Rosenberg•Mid-episode
"You need to keep watering the flower that is your wife. Don't forget. She's a little girl, too."
Eric Abadu (relayed by Rosenberg)•Family matters segment
"I'm not a fake holy fraud. I'm not a fraud. And we're privileged. We have other jobs too. We don't have to dance in the same way."
Ebro•HOT 97 discussion
"The reason it feels disingenuous is the overall situation and the nastiness with which it occurred was not so great."
Laura•Mero congratulations discussion
"Congratulations. You played yourself."
Ebro•Original Gurus advice segment
Full Transcript
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You said this is so great. And I said it's the loot. And there was a salute after it. No, salute was clean. No, but it's the whole thought I thought. What? Iber, the reason I know people are not wrong for feeling that you were saying something like weird is because when I first came to the group chat and said, I have it confirmed, this is what's happening. Your reply was almost the same in our chat because I think it's great. That's awesome. I know I'm going to speak for Laura, even though we didn't talk because I can her silence. Speaks volumes. Laura and I both felt like you were being like, all right, like the amount of this is so great. Feels very intense because even though it's a great thing for them and these are people who we like. So it's a silver lining that it's people we like. The reason it feels disingenuous is the overall situation and the nastiness with which it occurred was not so great. So when you label it as not this is great. I don't associate it, but so I'm not thinking about it. Wait, wait, wait, bro. What else in success with my situation? I looked at it different. I just, I were like, this tweet is going to be taking out a context. They're going to take it out of context and they're going to call him shady. I knew what you meant, Ibro. I knew what you meant. But and then the follow up video of you at your Apple studios, studios that you've been for what, 10 plus years? That wasn't even a follow up. No, no, no. That was like two separate times. It didn't happen at the same time. I understand. We're talking about the internet. They took both of them and look at it. I'm not going to be talking about this, but see this is clear. Be clear. I'm not even talking about the internet because they're going to, especially Twitter. First of all, there's always going to be haters of me on Twitter just because I'm an opinionated person and I don't like their faves or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about you and Rosenberg. I wasn't even talking about them. No, every, I think everyone here, I didn't speak to them all. I think everyone here not named Ibro thought this is so great came out weird. I bet if we did a vote, everyone here back now, that wasn't the right language to use. And I just took it as they're going to make it into shade. Well, based on the response, clearly it was not good. Right. So we were, my hunch was right. It was not so great. No matter what you do, bro, it wasn't so bad either. No one like you didn't get like crushed on it. No, I just, I was honestly the only reason I'm bringing it up right now is because a, I was actually shocked because I didn't think much of it when I did it. Right. Like I don't, I don't get on social media and, and literally go through how I'm saying things and thinking about how it's going to be received. I don't put that much effort in the social media. I know you don't. So when I tweet, I'm just like, this is what I thought. Boom, done. You know, like in, in, in that scenario, I literally said the exact same things to Mero privately. I was like, yo, bro, this is so great. You earned it. You deserve it. This is great for the station. This is great for you. This is great for the city. Like this is great. Like I couldn't, but that's the problem. That's the problem. Let me explain. Other people may be more like me. Maybe this is who you authentically are. And if so, God bless you. Congratulations. You're on a more elevated plane for me as someone who spent nearly 20 years there. And yes, I listen, I can openly admit I played a part in the end of it. We all played our own parts, whatever. Maybe not Laura, but me and Ebro certainly played a part in the end of it. All of those things. I'm just being honest. Hot 97 will be in my heart forever. It defines me until the day I die. Nothing about it will ever be so great again. That's the thing. No, but that's separate. But I understand, but you can't separate you. And the way people read it is, is they're probably more petty and like I am. So they're not separating and they're like, nah, bro, nothing so great. So it's not even that they're being bad people. It's that they are seeing it from the standpoint they might see it, which is like, come on, I'm a fan. How great is it really? I get that. But I believe that you meant it. I do believe you meant it. Well, that's why you can tell I wasn't as effusive. I was like, this is really cool. Yo, based on the fact that there were, there were, there was an opportunity for us to resign contracts and none of us were racing to resign the deal. We were not. You guys clearly were not. Actually, Laura, it's your fault too. She wasn't rushing either. You guys, you guys clearly were not prioritizing your connection to that brand because your connection to that brand had become, had deteriorated based on who was managing the brand and how it was being managed. Yes. So once again, you have to separate things. You've got to unpackage things. You're right. For me, it doesn't all go together. That's a really fair point. And yes, it took me. A month. So I'll tell you guys this. So Siphon, I did a podcast. We did a one app the Monday after it all went down and we never put it out because we ended up getting into a screaming fight and all kinds of nasty words were said and it was on you when you and Siph. Yeah. About, well, do you not want to tell us? No, no, I won't, I won't, I won't get into this. I can tell you the general of it. The general of it was I wasn't ready. I thought I was fine and I wasn't ready for sort of a whole Siph to be to play to play devil's advocate and to push back when I was like, they did this and they did that and him being like, well, what about you? Did you, I wasn't up for that. I thought I'd be fine with whatever. I obviously needed someone to just be more of a friend and it went, he ended up apologizing. I apologized. We deleted the episode. Deleted? I can't hear it anymore. No, no, no, we have, I'm sure Emilio Sparks, my producer, consented to you. We have it, but, but then we recorded again a couple days ago and I was in more of a place to say, to hear him more clearly, to be like when he, you know, because Siph very good at playing the, Siph can do a corporate dance. If Siph wants to do a corporate dance, he's down for a music. Siph. Oh, by the way, I told Siph about the dance. He loves it. He loved it. Siph's down for this. Oh, no. Listen, man, they're professional. We should have dancing with the sport. It's called dancing with corporations. Yeah. So, so he was just pointing out to me and I hadn't really thought about it this way. Like, amen. I hear what you're saying about how nasty it all went down, but basically let's not pretend you were, well, like I was doing the dance. The problem is your man Rosenberg, I didn't even attempt to pick up the shoes. I never even went to like the second it started. I was like, I, I was eye rolling. I was nasty. I was not here for any of them. So, so, so as a result, I still don't think it had to go down the way it went down. I never crossed some sort of crazy line, but I also can't pretend that I was a team player. The way it went down was more based on what they needed to do to run their business. Right. Then it had anything to do with being personal. Right. Like it wasn't, we, I've never had a negative. Thank you though. A quick thank you. Fine. I've never had a negative experience with the powers that be with the immediate powers. Right. Like I had a negative experience with the owner. Right. But never with the immediate. I never had like a back and forth that was contentious or, or anything like there was no, there was no evidence, but I knew that I knew that, you know, there was potential that they may want to go in a different direction. When you said, I mean, you still, while it never was negative, you still said things that were inflammatory or not about them, but no, no, no, about the situation. There's a plot twist on Ibro-Laura Rosenberg show. And by the way, it's Friday freedom. That's why we're just letting it go today because it's Friday freedom. They agree with the things I was saying. They want them to change. Right. It's not, we weren't at odds. Right. We, we were at odds maybe with how it was being handled, but I wasn't going to get on the radio every day and act like everything's hunky dory. I don't do that. That dance is too far. Now you're asking me to break dance. What, and there's two things. Now you're asking me to, now you're asking me to do all right. You can't move. Bro, you're not, I'm not lying dancing. I'm not lying dancing. I'm not lining up and dancing. I could dance a little bit. Two step in the corner, maybe play the wall. But now you want me in the center of the floor under the disco ball twirling and acting like things is hunky dory. Nah, I'm not doing that. Well, also, I think there is, I think there's a certain bit of me and Ibro's radio nature that is the way you do this is you aired out on the radio. That's what like old school radio is like now we're getting into with management. That's a built in part of like the classic jock thing. Yes. And it's also a way to relate to the audience because they also work in places where they have issues with management. It's relatable. We just, by the way, as much as, as much as our job is seen and clearly people revere the opportunity, despite the fact that, you know, podcasts and the internet has acted like radio hasn't mattered in 100 years. Crazy. Now all of a sudden it's. No, it's the biggest congrats. Here we go. No, Ibro, our job was irrelevant, but someone who's already been successful got the job and people like this is the greatest moment of your life. But we were losers. I mean, no one cared about it. But it's all marketing and narrative. By the way, I need a hive, man. I'm hiring a hive. You're hiring a high. What are you talking about? But listen, they spend money with us and I'm going to take that money and give it back to them to be a hive. Okay, but they don't have to be a hive. They're fods. That's who they are. Well, fods, hive, whatever they are. What do you want, though? What are you hoping to do? We're going to do narrative shaping. We're going to tell the story. The Ibro Law Rosenberg story is going to be told. You know what I'm saying? We're not going to just allow these, these podcasters and this internet world to act like I haven't supported artists and made sure that money in their pocket. Well, no, and we weren't going to get ratings. Oh, yeah, we just had a job. By the way, I've never even heard that one. That's never, oh, no, no, a lot of the time when people say we got fired, when they hear the word fired, it's because we were failing and not doing well, which is an utter lie. In fact, I'm tempted to just leak all the text messages from upper management about how great we were doing every single week. I know this couldn't be better. I won't, I won't right now. But I will tell you, you know who did bring that up? Joe Budden. He did bring that up on his podcast. He's like, their ratings are great. So it wasn't performance. Yeah, I saw a clip. Somebody sent me a clip and I was like, thank you, Joe. He definitely did say that. But also I've talked to Joe behind the scenes. And he knows what he knew. He knows about our plans. By the way, the plans that we're talking about that are plans, plans before this moment. That's the craziest part. Well, because we had a feeling guys, come on, let's not act like we did. There is a feeling, but there is a feeling because also this, Laura Stiles. And you guys notice I've had an issue for years that our content that we do every day on the radio was not being packaged well and placed in video form on the internet. And it wasn't being marketed. Correct. Why right now when we're doing this show, there's people who only operate in the internet space and only operate kind of in the podcast. They're like, yo, man, this show's fire. I love what you all are doing. It's like, yo, so you never turn the radio on. Never, never. You don't even listen to the radio. And that's the plot twist of even where things are going where people are talking about radio is because most people's interaction with the radio is on YouTube. You're not listening to the radio. Two different audiences. And if you're not marketing on YouTube or marketing on Instagram, well, then nobody's seeing your stuff. So that's one of the things that we're actually excited about is the opportunity for people to actually see our stuff. And I guess that's where I'm going to end up getting. That's where the saltiness comes in for me is cause I'm like, oh, seeing the party. I know that opening day this week, they had food. Everyone was there. The big party. Yo, when I tell you the lack of excitement that existed now, listen, again, I take my own part in that too. But that's the part where you're just like, and let me tell you something. A lot of people right now, if you seem too happy about the changes, just go ahead. If you see my wife in public and keep walking the other direction because she's because she's making a list and she's checking it. Oh God, I call her back off the ledge. No, hit the dance music. Some people got to do the dance. They see the writing on the wall. They got to do the dance. They got to do the dance. Heavy. Yes. They got to do the dance. Some did do the dance. Some chose to some chose to do a quick two step and some chose to put on their ballet outfit. Yeah. I didn't expect anything less though. I just appreciate. I appreciate those who did a quick. Oh, thank you, man. Can I tell you with versus the ballet with me, I keep getting from the trolls. They keep getting like screenshots of the studio, you know, like after we left or right when we were leaving, they added some new wallpaper because, you know, I was the one that talked about the roaches and the homeless people and complex posted that article. And I forgot the writer's name at yo and petty Laura was about to like, let me find her and give her a piece of my mind. But I was like, chill, chill, chill. Because in the complex article at the end, she was like, we checked with the Department of Health. There were absolutely no complaints. Right. And well, the union, the union has something else to say about it. Hold up. Yes. Yes. Yes. So they keep sending me pictures of the studio and I had to tell something like I clapped back one time on how we haven't been at 395 Hudson in years. But I also wanted to be like, I got emails and I got pictures and I got several complaints to sag after to prove my point. But Rosenberg, I'm choosing to just listen. I'm doing the same. You know what I mean? I think that's the best thing to do. And that's why I had to tell my wife to delete a few comments. I had to say, hey, settle down. It's all good. It's all good. But you know, that is why I love her. But you also, but you also have to say in all of this, right? Hit the dance music. I'm getting tired. I could have got busy, bro. And we didn't. You know why? Because I'm not a fake holy fraud. I'm not a fraud. And we're privileged. And we're privileged. We have other jobs too. We don't have to dance in the same way. Yes. Yes. That's very important. What you're saying is very important. But I'm also just not okay with the dismantling of brands that I care about and the treatment of people who work there who deserve better from my ownership who has the resources to do treat them better. And it's not. And as broken promises. Many, many times and times and has lost trust. Well, so this is this is a really good point, bro. And the main thing I used to say to people when they would ask me, and you got, I had this conversation with Rory and mall three months ago when I did their show and we talked after on the air. They were like, what's going on over there? We're chatting. The main thing when people would ask me how I felt and I would tell them, honestly, I was very open. If you saw me the street, how things going, I don't know, I might say I might go. I love my team. I don't love the place that I'm at. That was the same thing. I love working. Yo, it's hard to say no to getting paid to waking up, talking to your friends every morning. But I am sad for what the brand is. And I don't like being a part of it as it's entering this phase. I don't want to be here for it. But also for people on the outside, and this is important for people on the outside who just hit that button every morning and tune in and listen, right? There is a certain reinvigoration and freshness. Newness is great, right? Especially in Morning Drive, right? Like, Barrow in the Morning, that newness of New York kid, a Bronx kid. That's why I said it's so great. That's how we got here 18 minutes into this program. That's why I said it's so great because I recognize as somebody who's been doing this for 30 years, that in homegrown talent, somebody from the town, somebody that people already have a relationship with. That they've seen kind of grind their way to a moment, getting celebrated, especially after whatever went on with him and Deezus and whatever he's, you know, the podcast. Like, this is really great. And I couldn't think of another word. Like, awesome is great. This is great. So. All right. And you know, for anybody else out there who gets on social media and you're constantly like spinning around, figuring out what you need to say and not just being a true authentic self, you get this button. Because I listen for better or for worse, whether you love me or hate me, congratulations. You played yourself. Well, I think that's true. I think that's true of all of us to a fault. And I'm with you. I just like in closing. It could be, I, the station could find great success. The station could last for 30 more years, but a gun to my head asked me if that's going to happen. I'd say no, I don't think so. However, it could happen. However, for me personally, and I can only speak for me, who got here in 2007 at the tail end of the, of the true like glory of hot 97, I got here at the tail end. And I was blessed enough when Ebro put me on to get that opportunity and work with my heroes to me. The place that I knew, I don't know why this is the association, association of my head. Maybe it's because I saw everyone that day because of the loss. Mr. C passing for me was the end of that era. Like that was the end for me. I knew in my heart when we all were together, you know, and like literally, Angie and Ms. Info were on stage with us all together, that family, fat man, scoop was still there. That version of what the place meant to me. I, when I walked, it's never been the same for me ever since. And by the way, Rosenberg, that's okay. In life, nothing. Nothing to say the same stays. And I like, I like to me, you know what it is? I'm romantic. And you guys know that and I'm emotional. And I believe there's no one in history, maybe who loved the station more than Mr. C. So in spite of the fact that his last shows were on 947 the block, there's something poetic about him leaving this earth being the end of hot 97 for me. You know what I'm saying? There's something poetic. And by the way, and that's the hot 97 you loved in the hot 97 you, you want to dream to being on. Right. And now there's a new generation. Yeah. And that version will be something else. And that version will be something else. And that brand, the brand is cemented in history, whoever owns it, whatever they end up doing with it, however they manage it, it is, it is a part of New York City's art and culture music history. Well, Natalie, well Natalie wants ELR to blow up so big that we cop it. So we got to get to this show. Let's get to this Friday freedom. Please let's go. Let's go. Listen, we got things to get to. It is ELR show at gmail.com. If you want to email or Ibrahim or Laura Rosenberg at gmail.com. We get to your emails and voice notes that have been big complaints from producer Griff that your voice notes of six minutes, five minutes, four minutes, even three minutes are too much. That's right. Thank you guys to get on your voice note if you're going to send one and get right to it. You know what I'm saying? I would say I would say max it out at 60 to 75 seconds. Yes, that's what we're looking for. Shoot for one minute, bro. Just shoot for one minute, please. Back on the back on the 13th, Lauren sent an email. She wants to pick you up Rosenberg for speaking on Bill Maher and being on the right side of Israel made my husband leave the room. So thank you for that. I get tired of his red pill hodge twin. I'm an independent and everyone is terrible nonsense. I heart you all and I also enjoy Mero and might check out his show. Keep up the awesome content. So shout to Lauren for that. But made her made her husband leave the room because her and her husband clearly beefing over the side of the history that he's on right now. Listen, it's very, I gotta say, it's very hard for people. It's they don't. It's hard to have being taught one thing your entire life and learning that it's not what you thought. But as I always say to people who care, I go, don't worry. I love being American and it's a complete lie also. Don't feel so bad. It's cool, bro. You don't need to make people guilt you. It's not you don't need to feel guilty for having those feelings. I'm sorry. Don't every practice. Most countries will talk about have some bull ish and it's hard for people to accept it when they realize how bad it is. And it's happening in real the history is happening in front of us right now. So thank you for that, Lauren. All right, I got one. Ebro. Go ahead, Lore Stiles. All right, this is from Camille, I believe. Hey, guys, I cannot express how happy I am that you guys saved me from having a void in my life. Loving the podcast and blood in the water has such a great ring to it. All right, let me get to it. After years of playing commercial music, can you guys please have a segment highlighting some of the amazing R&B artists or even hip hop. That do not get mainstream shine. So she gives some examples and says maybe have some influencers come on the show to talk about it. She says, there's a lot of people who do a great job introducing new artists creatively. So I would highlight some amazing artists out there. The white ish Wednesday edition to the show has such a great feel. So this is what I had in mind. Also congratulations, Rassan bus. Rassan, we were in the same circle at Penn State. So happy to see the man he became and glad he's with you guys. Tell them I said Tang said, hey, Tang, wait, he was definitely ratchet in those PSU streets. Really missing cast ones energy. The energy he brought to the show and sometimes even Shawnee culture. Oh, yeah, why the sometimes even Shawnee culture. That's still a lot of people do that. I know. I know. So first of all, Tang, I love this. Yeah, shout out to Rassan and we've experienced ratchet Rassan ourselves. Okay, we've seen him in action before he was a change man. But you know, it's hard for us to have any music on the show right now on YouTube because we'll get flagged. So that's one of the reasons that whitish Wednesday is not, you know, Well, no, we got and we got plans. So there will be music. There will be music talk and hopefully with this captive audience that we guys have you guys being locked in with us. We'll be able to really help artists cut through right and really focus on some things and get some feedback from you guys. And by the way, these plans aren't far off. We're going to have an announcement next week about the plans. Right. A phase. And no, no, like phase one of being able to get music at whitish Wednesday, all those things that that gets mentioned in my In my email that I have here. Okay. What do you have? Let's see. Fam long time friend of the show as a new so Cal resident, you guys were my connection to NYC. And when they canceled your show, I was completely heartbroken. I'm so glad you guys decided to keep the show going on YouTube. Also, we need Griff to step up the sponsorship game so you guys can get enough money to not only get paid, but to recruit Shawnee and cast and bring them over to your show. And we can replace Juanito's goofy ass with hot rod Rick. Oh, come on. That's terrible. Hey, yo, also let's get some merch going. We need there's blood in the water and we got plans t shirts, hoodies hats, PS, get some of your celebrity friends to make some new drops for you guys and some custom music because Rosenberg is struggling. Well, listen, custom music. We got plans. Drops and all of that stuff on the way. Yeah, we got plans. Merch manager Laura Stiles. What do you got to say about the merch? Merch is on the way. It's actually out right now. So we have, you know, go to Ebro or Roseberg on Instagram. There's a link in the bio. So make sure you couple a little something. Yeah, don't sleep on the merch. Go to the Instagram and hit that link in the bio and oh and for sponsorships. Yo, listen, if there are people out there listening who have a big business that spends money, please do reach out to Griff. Well, you know, obviously that's part of the plans to and finding some sort of brand that makes sense to associate with. Why not? You know what I mean? Listen, we appreciate the support. We can't get into a business where it's like, yo, shout out my mixtape. Here's a hundred. I got a little flower business for 200. We can't. It can't be that. But if you have like a real, you know, a big business that you're a part of that spends money on marketing, um, great opportunity to hit our people. Yeah, man. Oh, let's see. Um, we got a voice note. Are the voice notes loaded up and ready to go? Let's get to the voice notes. We got people checking in from the UK. You want to go to Stuart Rosenberg? Oh, here we go. Stuart. Hi. Laura Rosenberg. So happy that you started the show straight away. I listened to the podcast in the UK every single day. I couldn't believe it when I see you on Instagram saying that the actual show was no more and then it was overjoyed when the new show was announced straight away. It's great to see you all back. It's great to see the old man leaning into the full old man. I saw him doing the gurus or lining up for the gurus and I thought that man is old before. So well done in that. Access it. Also great numbers. So if you can just use your great numbers one second or dad's podcast, brand new podcast. Not just dads because mum's actually made the world go round. But if you are a dad and you do struggle, then just check us out all that podcast on all podcasts platforms. And once again, thank you for bringing the show back so promptly. Stuart, it's love man. All dad's podcast. Thanks for starting straight away. I love that Brits always say straight away. That's a good expression straight away. Better than right away. I like straight away. Straight away is good. And I do want to shout out to the people. There were individuals who thought that we was moving too fast, getting right back on the horse and making sure that we was, you know what I mean? Yeah. Putting up shots right straight away. No, I think straight away. I think for us straight away was the move. I think so too. And I got some feedback from some people that they actually enjoy being part of us building the show. You know what I mean? Well, that's what makes it the thing for people. Yeah, we give them behind the scenes look and we tell them about our plans so that we have plans. Yo, once again, Ibra Laura Rosenberg at Gmail or the ELR show at Gmail, Claudette says she wants to thank us for our efforts to provide content to the FOTS. She wants to say thank you for that. She's been a fan for a very long time and she's blessed to be able to share the journey with us. She celebrated our highs and cried with our lows. Aw. Recent one, and recent one, no exception. She says, I'm not crazy that they have broken up my extended family. She's not crazy about it. And while I still have love for the crew that remained at the station, I am not ready to turn them on nor do I know if I ever will. My midlife challenge though is that I am not active on social media or content apps and I want to be fully supportive of you and what's to come. Would you mind listing out what sites, blogs, apps or whatever the lingo is so I can start that journey. I may need to take a class, LOL, but I need direction. Love you guys. Keep pushing through all these barriers because I'm here for it. That's Claudette. What kind of sites does she need help figuring out? Everything. Basically, if she found us, that means she's seeing us on YouTube. Okay, that's good. She's good. That's good. Let's not over complicate it. So Claudette, you got the best part of it, the YouTube part. Just stay with us, locked on the YouTube and pay attention. Subscribe. Clearly she knows how to email, but I think she wants to support the Patreon probably. Oh, when that only uses YouTube, get her IG and Facebook. So Claudette, Claudette send us. Do you mean Griff needs to get her? I don't understand. I just don't get this, bro. She's hearing the show. What do it needs to happen? She wants to support everything. Oh, she just wants to support everything. All right. So the only way she really needs to support is to keep watching the show and we will tell her in detail how she could support the show. Like for example, you could go to the Ibra Laura Rosenberg Instagram page right now, go to the Lincoln bio and buy some merch. That's a way to support the show. We'll have a big announcement about the future of other programming that you could hear next week and we'll explain it to you. All she got to do is keep rocking with us. There you go. Don't get nervous. All right, Laura Stiles, what you got for him? Here's one. Okay. It's from Lori. I just want to say thank you for continuing your show. I'm a listener from Portland, Oregon. I typically hate talk on the radio about a couple years ago when I discovered your show. I was so excited to be able to listen to people discuss life in a genuine way and have real opinions. So when I heard about the radio letting you go, the quickness in which I subscribed to your channel on YouTube. Talk about it. Woo! This is what I needed. I am incredibly grateful that you guys are continuing to provide this content. The idea I have is putting up a weekly music playlist that we could all listen to. Include a top pick from each of you each week. It could be new music, classic music, whatever, just a weekly vibe playlist of an hour's worth of music. And last note, I would absolutely love to hear you guys discuss Heated Rivalry, the books or TV show right now. I don't know that show. Which show? Heated Rivalry. Do you know it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Laura, come on. Laura, get your boat sheen checked. Yo, Ebro, she may not be up to the task of the BCC or the BNN or the, you know. Why? I don't know. Do you know Heated Rivalry, Ebro? I don't know that one. Heated Rivalry is about two hockey players who fall in love. Oh, okay. It's a big gay, it's a big gay hockey sex extravaganza. Oh, wow. And it's got people talking. Oh, my God. I think the, I think the two leads are a couple of hot dudes. They were at the Golden, they were all over the Golden Globes. It's a big HBO Max of you. By the way, never heard of it. Never heard of it. Never. I have a new drop for both of you guys because I'll be honest, it happens a lot and rather than get mad, rather than come up with an algorithm. Listen, rather than me get irrationally, I'm putting it on myself, rather than me get irrationally angry when you guys don't know something, I'm just going to play this. Who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, because that's Ibro and Laura with half the things that I bring up. But this one, I will say, didn't really make it to my world until a few weeks ago I heard, I forget where I saw it. And then they were at the Golden Globes and you know, listen. So you just found out about it, bro. A few weeks ago, but Laura, it's like, it's gay. Not that you mentioned it. Not that you mentioned it. I saw a story on my algorithm. Here we go. About gay hockey players. Was it that? Well, I thought it was, I didn't watch it long enough, first of all, to like, because I, like, I'm not in, okay, there's two gay athletes. All right, who cares? I don't care. But you, it was probably about the show. Probably was, but I didn't watch it long enough to know that it was about the show or was it really based in truth about some, because I definitely have seen athlete, you know, like, I saw another thing about a football player recently who was gay and I was like, ah, good friend. I may be making this up. I may be making this up, but I think it comes from like a series of books that are like tantalizing sort of grocery store. They looked at each other across the locker room. You know, I got a good email. You guys are going to like. I go for it. Um, thank you for not wasting any time and getting right back to it. My wife of 25 years saw how distraught I was after the last show at 97. Then she got real. When I told her you were back with the new show quote, you need to apologize to Rosenberg for all the night nurse crap, the privilege comments, the baby physical therapy. Oh, they don't know you like that. And they certainly don't know your sense of humor. And the Rosenberg dog pile started after you said all of that. So Pipsquick Peter, I formally apologize for my past emails. I'm a fan of Jace. You were at least my third favorite person on the old show. I said what I said because you're unraveling is legendary. Yeah. And your buttons are easy to push. I did it for entertainment only to amuse the thoughts and to hear Ebro push you even further into the phantom zone of unravel. I occasionally tap into cheap heat and you're my third favorite person on that show. And if I listened to one at your, my favorite after Billy June. With this parasocial thing and I sincerely apologize. That said, I'll be listening just saying thank you all for coming back so quickly. I miss cast and Shawnee, but glad Griff is on board. The show is coming together nicely. We need your voices more than ever. The voices that won't play the game or kowtow to the other sick offense. Love to all. No, that's good. Wow. That was a nice one. It's good stuff right there, man. Speaking of which, I saw a couple of days ago, Laura, Ebro. Ebro tried to weigh in and try to get on Becky Lynch's good side. That's right. That's Becky the best Lynch to you do. That is Becky the beast Lynch. That is Becky. He's trying to come up with a good. I know. I know. What is he, what did he say? He's like tweeting at her. Like what is he doing? Yeah, he just like, she said she went after me and called me Pipsqueak Peter again. Ebro, I'm just noticing something right now. I have to say this, Ebro. It's Friday freedom, right? We can say whatever we want, right? Okay, okay. I've been noticing this in the comments and then since I read it in the comments, I'm feeling it in real life. Have you noticed that since we started the internet show, Laura's laughing has gotten crazier and more frequent than ever. It's the same. I don't know. I saw that. I saw that email and I don't believe it to be true. No, it, no, it just, no, I'm going to, I'm going to ask. I want either one of our producers or a thought to produce a best of Laura crazy laugh so far. And you will hear. No, she's on another level. Why are you acting brand new? No, because here's the deal. I'm here for it. I want it. This is good news to me. I don't, I don't want Laura to be in some sort of laugh track. I'm not participating in that. It's just not true. And it's also just not true. And also it reinforces what I've been saying is most people, because when we did the show before it was broken up by music. Yes. And most people had never seen a full show video. So you mean they, you mean they didn't know that Laura was already crazy is what you're saying. Exactly. And I'll say yes to that. Do you think, do you think it hasn't changed at all? And it's just my ears because I've been seeing it in comments. So I was so used to Laura being crazy that when she randomly like, you know how many crazy Laura drops we have? I have some actually. Hold on. We have a litany, a plethora of Laura snorting. Hey, hey, hey, come on, man. Yeah, you know what? I guess you're right. The snorting could have stayed guys. The store box is legendary. I don't want to best of Laura crazy laugh compilation though. No, no, no, it's easy to fall off. All you got to do is listen to one episode. From one episode, if you just did quick cuts of her like, it would be amazing. I want it. I want it. All right. What do you guys got? We got to get to a voice note. Let's go. What's the next one on the list after Stuart? Who do you want? You want me to pick? Yeah, just pick one. Here's Lauren. Good morning, Ibro. Laura Rosenberg. This is Lauren reaching out from California. I will try to do this quick because I know you guys hate a long winded message. Just want to say, you know, when me and my husband got the news that you weren't going to be on hot 97 anymore, we were so bummed. But lucky us. We didn't have to go along without you all. So I'm really excited that, you know, you're still here, still around, still doing your thing. I want to say, I know that when you guys were trying to decide what time to go live, you were thinking about your local commuters as you should. But as an early bird over here on the West Coast, I just have to say, great time. Great time to choose. I love it. Because now I can listen live and all of us, you know, early birds over here can listen live too. So, you know, you are reaching that many more people. You know, there'd be so many times where you guys would be speaking on a subject and ask callers to call in with thoughts and opinions. And I'd be like, damn, I got something to say about this. So you know, hopefully one day I'll be able to participate in one of those conversations. But yeah, really, really excited to see how the show evolves, what you guys do with it. And yeah, happy new year and sending so much love. Oh, I love it too. Positive email, positive vibes. So, we will have a phone number soon come. We got plans. We got phone calls. You know, Ibra, Lauren just reminded me that and this is totally judgmental because I have no idea what her race was. But for whatever reason, white initially is what hit me. I don't know. But I thought about you in this conversation too. One of the things that I think also got me in the Renee Nicole Good of it all was that like we just went through this run, you know, in history where like white women at a lot of times were like the butt of the joke, right? Like the Karen thing. The Karen thing was not a great time for white women. And if right, right. No, no, or name or name. But it also just sort of led to a lot of but then there was like the stats on white women voting for Trump. And there was a lot of things that you were just like, I'm not saying. Well, you're missing the point. I'm not saying anything's invalid. That was said. But what I'm saying is it obviously when we get into things like that on social media, it paints everything with this insanely stupid broad brush. And Renee Good just reminded me, even though I don't know her like her level of activism, just reminded me of the kind of white girls that I always knew in hip hop who existed, who at one point I used to annoy me by the way, because you know, I wanted to be the only white person around. But you know, like, it just reminded me of like these great ally women who have been around. And I don't know. I was I was I was birthed by one. What are you talking about? OK, so all the more reason. It's funny. I was thinking more of Carly Hussle. I wasn't even thinking about your mom. I was thinking about Hussle. Well, and so many others that I've known over the years, rappers, DJs, all kinds of things. But here's the thing. But here's the thing. When you are a person of privilege, depending on the arena, right? Like so, for instance, a way I could relate to this in a very small way is people see me as a person of privilege in media and in the industry, in the business. And so when I comment on something or I am mean to someone or dismissive of someone's art or I say someone's trash, no one gives me a pass. Right. Nobody's going to give me a pass. Right. And so then when I show up sometimes to be supportive, there's people who are like, get your bitch ass out of here. Nobody wants to hear what you have to say, even if I'm being supportive. Well, you know, that's I'm in the exact same. I feel the exact same way on all right. Right. And so that's just how the, I don't know, the way our the way our society is. Our society is set up, bro. Like it's a very toxic place. And so people don't have nuance and also people don't give passes. Right. So if you are of the white group, right, and that you're a white woman and 40% of white women voted for Trump. So it goes. No, but if you're, but if you're really an ally, you fight through it. Well, no, you would just understand. Like, I get it. I get why you got because I'm the closest to you. So you're going to take it out on me because I actually care about how you feel and what you're saying. I know into that point, though, I had never even really thought about it in the last many years. It wasn't until I saw her that I was like, man, I kind of forgot about all the cool white chicks I've known over the years who were of that sort of ilk, like they're going to be outside. I just, I hadn't really thought about it. They, you know, and all the cool white chicks. All the cool white chicks, the allies, the true allies are also very critical of their social counterparts for sure that are that are the reason. Oh, the most critical, right? Are the reason many times we can't get progress because white women are either setting up black men to get killed, Emmett Till and many other or black towns getting burnt down because of some white woman lied about rape or using their white tears as weapons all throughout history. Yo, you brought had these conversations with these same people that I'm talking about. He was outside the back of the club, smoking the blunt, having this conversation. And they were like, yo, I know that's just nasty. That's that. You know, that's, I'm just saying, I was just, and listen, I don't know who knows what she was like. A lot of people said a lot of different things about her. All I know is when push came to shove in this moment, when people of color are being rounded up and pulled off the street, it requires brave people try to fight on the side of those people. They literally need you and need us. And I was just like, damn. No, it's it's it's it's it's and would I be brave enough to be that? You know, would I be out in the street? I've known you a long time and the answer is no. I'm not gonna say no. You're hurting me. Confidently. Confidently. Say, that is not what you would do. Now give you a microphone. Get busy. There you go. No, no. Is that a bad sign? You might spit a bar, but is that a bad sign in physical harm's way? Not happening. No, I've been what, but is there a bad sign that like in me, I'm like, I've been wanting to smoke. I'm like, I want to see you. I'm sorry. Where you are? Come to New York, but I don't want you coming to New York at all. And they're here. They're just not. I just can't believe how many they have in Minneapolis. They keep pumping them out. The ELR show at Gmail, Ibro Laura Rosenberg at Gmail. If you would love to be a part of Friday Freedom, we appreciate you giving us some time. Listen, we still have to get to the rundown and the lowdown with messy styles and Laura styles to the. No, we're not. We're not. It's preempted today. Really? It's preempted for something else. I got music. Oh, family matters. It's a Friday, man. Family matters Friday. It's a rare condition this day and a so we on Fridays rather than the, uh, then Laura getting into the muck and Meyer, we do a little family chat instead. That's right. It's always family. We're all going through it. It's being which Laura sent me a great booger article yesterday. Yes, man. She's still making boogers. Do you know how many fonts would be that article though? I was cracking up. That's very, it was very funny. I thought a booger wall. I sent it to you too. Now she started stashing the boogers. No, no, no. Right now she's just like all up in it, you know, she's not living up. She's not living up to her. I'm asking what are you doing with it? And she doesn't want to tell me. The elders would be disappointed. The ancestors, the ancestors, she's not doing enough. Um, speaking of which, and if you don't know the joke there, the joke is, is cause Laura was a booger picker and a stasher and a collection maker. Yeah. My mom whipped my ass cause she found out that behind a, a poster that I had was a rare collection. So nasty. It is so nasty. Anyway, speaking of family matters, uh, bring the video to the forefront. What's up everybody. What's up everybody. What's up everybody. Yeah, that was a beautiful piece. Yeah. Now that's pretty good. That little you wonder you say y'all see it right you see it. Yes. The beginning she has a listen she has a poise to her. That's the thing. It's the poise. See you see it's the the individual use of each finger that I'm you go because usually kids will be like bang bang bang bang. Well, that's the thing. I that's I've when Maya does anything that plays any sound. She like close fists, smashes it practically. Yeah. So to see to see that sort of poise on the keys bra. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. A couple of things. And I thought y'all was going to hate but now that you're not hating and you're on my side. Um, her back posture, like what are we talking about? Yes. The fact that her wrists are off the keys. Like she's nobody in this house plays the piano. That's an Issa's bedroom. Issa's taking some lessons and can like fumble through some things, but not she can't even play Mary had a little land. Like it's not even a thing. Well, here's the thing. If you're serious, though, I think this is if you want, if you think someone's going to be a savant, two is when you start with the lessons. Is it now I was going to be my next three. Is it two? I was thinking three, like when she could actually listen to somebody give her direction. You're close. It's close. I would say it's in the next year. But you definitely need to nurture this. Like sometimes on YouTube, they have like little very preliminary lessons that jazz could probably do with her to like mimic. You know what I mean? Yeah, you have to nurture this, though. You have to hold on. I'm Ash out to you. Griff Griff says, yes, lessons start now. OK, let's go. Let's go. My friend has a two year old daughter who is showing an aptitude on the piano. He thinks she may be a savant. When would be the right time for her to start taking serious piano lessons? Great question. I can't believe he's asking Chad. You want an answer? Let's see. Short answer, not yet, at least not in the way adults mean by serious lessons. Longer, more helpful answer. At two, kids can show real music signals, strong pitch, memory, rhythmic, sensitivity, imitation, fascination with sounds. That's exciting. But it's also too early to diagnose savantism. So OK, we'll just nurture this. Pre-exploration, singing a lot, simple rhythm games, clapping movement, listening to a wide range of music, short, joyful interactions. We're doing all that. All that to go. All that to go. Four four to five is when formal piano lessons. Thank you, Pat. I prefer listening. I'll be honest with you. I prefer Gemini. I haven't used Gemini. Is Gemini the other one? Yeah, Google's. Yeah, Gemini is good. Let me guess. Is that the one that people use the black guy voice on it? Is that why you like it? No, I didn't even know you could do that. And I just type it in. I've never had it. I've actually talked to you. But you can't blame me for assuming that the answer would be the reason you like one more is because it sounds black. Well, if it is the case, it's the best one in the world. No, no, but you really can. When you use the voice ones, you choose the voice that you like. Oh, yeah. None of y'all have watched any of the videos I've sent you to the group chat of that weird guy who sits there asking AI questions and fighting with it. Yeah, I've seen that. Or where he's like getting run over by a car. He's like, I'm getting run over. Why aren't you helping? It's like, haha, that's funny. It doesn't look like you're getting run over. He's like, well, I am do something about it. It's a crazy time, folks. All right. Family matters. Bring the music back in. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, we already did the music. We already did it. But I can play it in the background. So so I just got to say, I don't want to get into specifics because plans are still being made. But yesterday, my daughter turned one. We met. We talked about it on the show. Yeah. Yesterday, my turn to one. All the things, all the feelings. Wow, a year. Oh, my God. All those things. But let me tell you about the level of self inflicted. Maybe it's not self-inflicted, but whatever the amount of stress that has come into the deciding on and planning on a first birthday and how hard and how hard I have to work to just remind mom, she doesn't care. This is all about how you feel. So you should do whatever is going to feel good for you. But when it gets to the like, I just want it to be special for her. I'm like, babe, she ain't gonna remember. No, even in the moment, it's special for her. It's special for you, it's special for her. She doesn't special for her. Whatever we get hyped up about and are like, isn't this exciting? Right, right, right, right. You know, but like it's just listen on a serious note, it's just another reminder. I don't want to over speak on my partner's stuff or she is my wife is who she is. But I will just say this whole thing is a journey. We now make one year into this part of the journey. So listen, it was another piece of the journey. I know for Natalie listens or watches this program. Happy birthday to you too, Natalie, because you literally gave birth. That's right. Happy birthday, mama. It really birthed on this day. So big up to you too. Now turn the turn the podcast off or turn the show off now, Natalie. I got to talk to Rosenberg. I could use it. Yes, King. Yes. Bro, you still got time tomorrow, Saturday. I don't know what happened on the day. The day was not a big event. I took care of my turn up. Turn up my G. What's up? Up restaurant outfit. A cupcake in the middle of the table, just a little candle, glass of wine, a nice note. So listen, listen, I held that part down yesterday. OK, so you got into that. All right, no, no, I definitely held it down. I was aware flowers. OK. Celebration. OK. And it went over well. Is there anything she's been saying that she's wanted to do but hasn't been able to do? Because of mommy, is it one thing? It's everything, you know what I mean? But that's a good thought. Like getting into a specific what could something be that she would really like to do? That's right. Yeah, I'm going to think about that and make sure I continue to celebrate because this is a transitional like it's I've seen as the birthday was approaching how it affected her like the oh my god, my baby's one. You know, it's the whole thing has been a mate from the second it all started. It's been amazing and beautiful and hard and and all of the things I like. Literally, it's hard for me to talk about my child and the whole thing in a in a I'm not good at having small talk about it anymore. When people come up and they're like, how's it going? I'm like, how much time you got? You want to sit and talk because it's it's the hardest thing you've probably ever done in a good way and a bad way, right? Like it's all the all the ways and all the emotions, the joy, the frustration, the fatigue, everything, the fighting for your relationship. The the, you know, just wanting to be good, but messing up the remembering postpartum, but sometimes you still get annoyed and you can't help it because you're a human being. And even if you want to every second remind yourself, this is your queen. She delivered your seed upon the earth. You know, and she went through a lot to get there. Well, listen, this is a this is a huge name drop. But Eric Abadu at some point reached out and checked in on how I was doing with it all. And when I told her, she gave me some really sage, beautiful advice about what Natalie is going through and gave me some great reminders. You know, she said the most beautiful thing. I literally will get like emotional saying it, but I thought it was so amazing. It was maybe six months in and I was talking about Maya how Natalie's and she was like, you need to keep watering the flower that is your wife. And she was like, don't forget. She's a little girl, too. That's right. She's never been through this either. This isn't just the little baby girl. This is a human being who's also a little girl who's experiencing all of these things at the same time. And no one has a guy. We all pretend to be adults, right? We're all playing adults. But like, Laura, you could obviously speak to this better than I certainly could. But I imagine that when you're a woman and you go through all this stuff, even if people show you love, no one's holding your hand through it. You have to just figure it all out. Yeah. Listen, I got emotional. You reading that you, you know, because it's the truth, you know? And it's like, I think that and it's hard because I remember having these conversations with my partner. Not only are you loving every moment, loving that you have this brand new beautiful angel in your life that you always wanted the, you know, the ups and the downs, but just the internal fight of like postpartum is so wild. Like the depression, the darkness. And then you feel guilty for feeling this way because you have this beautiful, healthy little girl. You know what I mean? And I know I have other, you know, I have really close friends that are going through their own, you know, trials and tribulations. But, you know, the postpartum thing is so deep. Like one day you just wake up and you don't want to be around. You want to close your eyes and just like lean back and just fade. You don't want to be seen. You don't want to do anything. And then you have this child that you have to care for. And then you have to be, you know what I mean? On at each moment and then you worry about your relationship. You worry about your partner. Are we still here? Are we still connected? So it's, it's, it's a lot, man. And she's right. You just have to keep watering the plant, watering the flower. And talking and talking. And listen, I think some days I've done a great job. Other days I've been like, man, I could have been better today. I'd like to think we always land. No, not I like to think I'm really happy with where we end up always landing on it. But man, it's hard. And then there's the other part of family. And with this birthday, other family stuff that's going on, worrying about pleasing other people and can't, can't cut it off. Can't. And the other thing I was going to throw in is you and your wife. Met on the internet met on IG. Twitter. Yeah. Or Twitter. Pre-Muscle Twitter, by the way. And a lot of her world with her work is in Instagram. So she's in the algorithm a lot. There's also pressure that, and you talk about this when you're like, oh, I'm off social media. I'm missing that. There's also this pressure, constant pressure to show up on the internet. Not even for yourself and in the real world to create things in the real world. To create things in the real world for the purpose of showing up on the internet to impress people that you don't know on the internet, which creates this level of stress where it's like, did I take enough photos of my one year old was my celebration of my one year old up to the standards of other moms and family celebration of their one year old. You know, and all of that. Those shenanigans that you did our party. Did our party look as good as this party? Exactly. You know, and don't all these ideas. Let's not lie, guys. We live in a world now where so many ideas come from what you've seen in other places, which is fine. But yet you're pointing bro. You're it's just the whole thing has been wonderful and and hard. And like I had a really guilty feeling. I've had guilt. I don't know if you've had this, but I've had really guilty feelings about when travel comes up. Like I'm going to Saudi Arabia in a couple of weeks or the Royal Rumble. And I hope to be on the show from there, at least as much as I can. And I think I will be. But I have I have a split of dread about being away from my family for like six days. And then also you're like, oh, man, no, but I'm there. I get to like, absolutely do. I got some quiet time. I just get to I just get to flip through the TV or hang out with a friend from work. By the way, all that's normal. Yeah, that's OK. Don't feel guilty about any of that. And by the way, it's a dead even mix when when the day before I leave comes, Ibro, that feeling of dread of saying goodbye. You're like, oh, I don't want to go. I don't want to go. And then you get there though. And you're like, ah, and Natalie's great like this. I called Natalie when we went to Perth, Australia for WWE. I was about to board the flight and I go, babe, bad news. I don't have any internet on this flight. It's like 17 hours. She was like, I don't care. You can't help me. She was like, whether you have internet or not, I'm on my own. Just go enjoy yourself. I what are you going to do for me? I can text you. Well, the baby's wilding out right now. What are you going to do? Right? It's fine. As a matter of fact, you're probably more of an annoyance because you're talking and doing nothing. So anyways, that was a serious family matter. So that was the one you could afford to miss. Pogers, Piano, Savant and Rosenberg got a one year old now. Can I get the music again? Just because I like it and I need it on the way out. Ibron just wants to get his flag. Back to Ibron doesn't ever want us to make money. Family matters. So we got, we got Friday freedom. Family matters. And now it's time for the OGs. The original gurus as we wrap up this Friday episode of Ibro, Laura and Rosenberg. That's right. Can I get the harps? When I, when I hit my, I hit my harps on time, Ibro, you got to learn it. There's a time to it. Okay, okay, okay. The original gurus at gmail.com. That's right. The original gurus. The original gurus. At gmail.com. That's right. The gurus unite to shine the light. Who's emailing us, Rosenberg? Who needs us? Zen, Zen, Zen. But you got to really zen when you're zenning, Ibro. You can't just be like, Zag, Zag, Zen. Has to be like, Zen, Zen, Zen. Wait, my Zen wasn't, my Zen wasn't zenning? No. What about Ibro burn the sage? I could burn sage. Ibro burn some sage. Burn the sage and Zen it together. I got some sage right here. Hang on one second. I'm going to read a short one today, guys, because we're running a little long here. We spent a lot of time on the family matters. Okay. But this is a real one though. The original gurus at gmail.com. Hi, my name is Lutando. Yeah. Yeah, I think Lutando. All right, let's go Lutando. From Johannesburg, South Africa. I was going to say, sounded South African. Okay, hi. I have a female friend who tells me she loves me when we text. Okay. I'm 40 years old. She has a kid and a man. I love her. Should I pursue a relationship? No. Doing it. Doing it, bro. Just get out of here, man. Do not listen to Satan. No, it's going to feel so good. Don't worry about her man. That's good. What could happen? You'll be fine. Oh my God. I've never let you wrong. Trust me. It's me. I just picture the devil from South Park, Rosenberg. It's absolutely who it is. And second of all, I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. And second of all, the fact that you need to email us to figure this out, you get this button because nah, bro. Nah, stop it. Congratulations. You played yourself. Get yourself together, bro. A friend who texts you that she loves you. Now, maybe she does want to throw the show. Maybe she does want you in the Pantelonis. Maybe she does want you, you know what I mean? To tickle her fancy. You're really going for it, huh? Yeah, don't do it, bro. But I wouldn't do it. Nah. I like how we both talk. A day's a pretty tight. I mean, I think we all agree. Don't do it. Don't do it, bro. It sounds like a disaster. Wait until it happens. In fact, pull back a little bit on that friendship. Yeah. And listen, if one day she ever ends up in a different situation. Wait, wait, because the girl says she loves you, like she might just be like, love you. Talk to you later. Or you need, but it sounds like he needs to pull back a bit because he sounds like he's the one, like he loves her. Let me talk to Satan real quick. I don't need to talk to him. Does he need to pull back or pull out? Talk to a Satan. Facts. Pull out and hit him with that. All over the place, you know what I'm saying? No. No, do it. Do it. Fight. Fight. She wants it. Fight. No, we all agree. Don't do it. Back up and guess, Rosenberg. I agree with you. You should probably pull back a little bit. Just a bit. Just a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. Don't feed into this because it's going to be a disaster at the end. So we're trying to save you. Bam. That's right. Pull back. So save the gurus. Happy Friday, everyone. It's the Friday edition of Ebro Law and Rosenberg was successful. Hopefully you have probably got deep. They got deep. They got deep. And funny. Don't forget. Hit the link. In our bio on Instagram to purchase some T-shirt. Oh, and we have an announcement. We have about our plans. We have some plans to announce on Monday. All right. Big, big announcement. What will Satan be involved in the announcement? You can't just be inviting him, Ebro. Listen, when it comes to doing the dance, you want to get paid, bring. Oh, I'm always here. Shout out to my God, Charlamagne. I'm always here. Shout out to my God, Charlamagne. I'm always here. Shout out to my God, Charlamagne. Andrew Schultz. My whole squad. Okay. Stephen A. Down in Troy. Shut them all up. Now, shout out to my people, man. I appreciate you. We're doing our thing. Tommy Lowe, Charlie Argo. All right. We're paid. Now, quick question. Satan, is it Charlie Kirk? He's down there with you? Ebro. Yeah. No comment, my G. No comment. Just don't call it a project. This is the powerful new single from Daughtry. It's called Antidote. It's hard to watch the poison take control. When you don't know the antidote.