Ep 71: Plush Hollywood Mansion Swinger Party - Swing and a Miss

Find us at vanilla swingers.com and you'll find Kat's only fans page there too. You wish. Hey Kat. Yeah Leo. I'm going to record one of those silly disclaimers that you put at the beginning of the podcast. Real advisory sticker. Let's go because this is going to be explicit. Oh yeah we're going to talk about lots of sex. Lots of bad language. We might even have sex on the podcast. We might have. Listening to the noise of our love making. There might be nudity. But you can't see it on the podcast. Doesn't matter. You can hear it. You can hear the nudity. We might corrupt you if you're under the age of 18. That's the disclaimer. Don't listen. We're not professional. What else? And yeah we're not professionals. We know nothing. Absolutely nothing. And if you want to try to sue us? Well we don't have any money either. Because this is bite-size and commercial free. We're not trying to make any money. It's fun. So if you like it then tune in and listen. Subscribe. Word. It's Leo. It's kitty cat. You're not going to do that. There it is. Did I forget to mention that Kat knows how to deep throat now? Apparently this is a big deal. Leo's so excited. I like to be like in bliss from oh my god that three. So he's like oh my god. I feel like I should be passing out cigars. It's all my friends. I didn't know it was that big a deal. He says not many people know how to deep throat. You remember when we were in Vegas you know a year ago or whatever and we were going to have a threesome and I just was like walking around and I'd see people in the elevator. Yes. You wanted to tell them we're having a threesome. In fact we did. We actually did tell people. We said we're having a threesome tonight. We told the cab driver we're having a threesome. I want to tell everybody my girl deep throats. I told you to tell someone at the airport. I gave you the dare and you didn't tell anybody. My girl deep throats. That shifts the energy considerably because most strangers are going to say what am I supposed to do with that information? Are you hitting on me? Should I be aroused? Well you should be aroused because how is this my life? After our last pod I told you I was going to try deep throating him again in the pure daylight, totally sober, not an ounce of like you know champagne in me or anything and it was not a fluke and it was not a figment of his imagination. I can do it now. I guess I just don't have a gag reflex. I'm over the roadblock. One day when you're older that'll turn out to be a gift. And I could probably get better at it. Well I guess the action of doing it is you've got to actually freely take something in your throat that cuts off your airway. It's the trachea okay that's what it is because the esophagus is for the food. It's the trachea and you're suffocating for a moment. You know you just can't breathe because it's blocking your airway but I put my hands on your very nice ass. I don't think so. And I am not ready for you to pin my arms down while we do it. I like to be holding on to you and I'm in control so I can like push you into me and then okay let's ease off and pull you away so I can breathe. And if I go too far then you give me the Heimlich maneuver right? I think you give me the Heimlich maneuver. I give you the Heimlich maneuver. Does that really work? No. You ever seen somebody where you give yourself the Heimlich maneuver? You kind of dive into the side of a Donny Rental? I don't know. If we were ever like choking on a sandwich. Yeah absolutely. So we're back from Vegas. We are home. And you know our Vegas trip we went over as far as sexy fun goes. It was very restorative. It is like our Vegas trip's pre-lifestyle where it was just Leo and I reconnecting sexually, reconnecting in a lovey way and we are so happy. Yeah I feel happy. It's really weird because. I'm still horny and I still want to threesome. I'm actually you said I handle it really well because I get a lot of rejection because single guys under 30 kind of suck. You're building up an armor of sorts but not that jaded kind of armor. You know what it's a kind of nonchalance like whatever. What will be will be. Nonchalance. What will be will be. Is that your French boy talking like that to you? Well you know my TikTok boy I'm going to get the 40 seconds I'm going to get it translated. He's talks to me in French and he does it in a video with a smirk like he's adorable. Meek tonnel bonsoir. I really like him. Yeah you're pretty smitten. I'm glad that maybe for now he's 3000 miles away because if he was in my backyard. And he's young he's way too young. I might be saying well how is this my life. He's like my cub my cougar cub. Okay. Right. Yeah so. But what makes him attractive is the amount of confidence that he carries himself with at 22 years old is not something you see in a 20 year old. And because we've seen him videos in sexual positions he has a sexual confidence. Sexual charisma that you're like. He was chewing gum in the bedroom. Oh god. With like this Cheshire cat grin on his face. And the way you actually wanted to take notes. God he's doing everything with a smile on his face. Well when he did it he did it with like this. Merth. Just a bundle of energy. Yeah. With a ride grin on his face the whole time and I thought you know what to most gals they're looking at that like they just got on a roller coaster ride and they want to go on the ride. And you know that's kind of a the name of the game for our Vegas weekend. We were given lemons because he didn't really exist in the sense that he was not going to be showing up in Vegas and we made it into lemonade. I decided you know what if you're not going to make it to Vegas that's okay you could be my sexting buddy. That was enough. So sexting buddy is. And we know he's real because I don't think we mentioned when we first started writing him I didn't believe he was real you didn't believe he was real and for the first time ever you said we should ask him like to verify. So I said send me a photo of yourself holding up four fingers. That's right. And within four minutes he sends back a video. Just smirk on his face. First he just looks into the camera. And then he raises four fingers above his face. And then he smiles. Oh is this what you were looking for? So hot. You didn't think I was real. So he's real he just lives in Bogota. I got to go to Bogota. So I guess I feel like. Happy. These last couple of months three months four months I don't know what but they've been a whirlwind it's almost been like a roller coaster. Well the summer is in the summer and so we've been away a lot. And we've just been constantly traveling and then the pod itself it's also you know it's kind of a full time. It's taken on a bit of a life of its own which is why we took an entire week off. When they erroneously gave us the podcast of the year. Duster fire of the year. What in the hell is that. They let a loser win tonight baby. We don't know we're doing. I mean we started a no podcasters. Yeah we just didn't even know the half of what we were doing. We're like we don't listen to podcasts. That's like trying to write a book and having a third grade reading level which I do. So you crazy wild ass misfits out there that actually listen to us and you voted for it. You find beauty and broken things and I love you. And now you can help us for the ABN's so we can go play with porn stars and tell you all about it. It's true. We'll go ahead and give you the sauce. I think that when we woke up in SoCal and then all of a sudden people are reaching out and saying like oh congratulations. And that was on another oof weekend which we're about to go into. That's what we're going to talk about tonight. It was almost like when we woke up to that we just decided to step away and take a two three week break. It was a hiatus because the pod is a lot of work. And I know we don't make a lick of money on it but we're having so much fun. Yeah it adds a lot to our lifestyle journey and that's why we do it. And the people that we meet that come and tell us that something that we said actually touched them. Oh so many people come up. In their own journey. Yeah and they quote us and you're like what is that. Maybe it helped to give them a little bit of a voice. That stuff is like a form for our soul. It really is. It fills our cup and we love you guys. Absolutely love you guys. So what are we talking about today? Or I should say tonight in our car. Well first of all we want to talk a little bit more about our Vegas trip that we just finished. We're going to talk about Vegas couple. Well you're talking about Vegas dress up couple. Yeah so we have two very good friends that we've known since around the start of the year that are just by text by insta. They're kind of like. They both started out as listeners. But they have become like really close friends. Really close friends. That I talk to once a week sometimes every day. So we share the case maybe we share spicy stories. And so that's Vegas dress up couple. And the other couple is of course our neighbors to the north. Hotty Hozier. Wait wait wait wait. I love you guys. Hey coffee. Hey coffee. We're going to meet them in a month. They're fantastic. We were talking. You were talking to her this morning while we were in the middle of sex play. We were in Coito bliss. She's on insta. We she joined my jam and she laughs. She's like oh you guys are like me. You're flitting through songs. You're DJing and you're flipping through. And I'm texting her. I just deep-throated him for the first time. Are you actually blushing over there in the dark? I am. Yeah. You're still innocent. You're safe. But you know you're corruptible. That's so sexy. I'm slacking. You are one of the lower miles full swap gals. I can say that. I'm not really full swap though. Well okay. I mean I am sort. I'm full threesome. You're full threesome. That's true. So for example we did see Vegas dress up couple. We've said it before that we're like the dog that chases the car. I'm not sure if we even know what the hell we would do if we ever caught the car. So we met them out for this weekend and we planned to go get drinks. Kind of hang out two, three hours and they're absolutely adorable. They have matching outfits. They decide to go with the peacock theme. Well they're a hot couple. They're a beautiful couple. They're very well matched. Very good looking couple and they just have this pizzazz and panache with the way they dress even just to go out to a bar. Yeah they're like a walking glitter bomb. But what rounded it out is they really wanted to see our red room at the Luxor. I'd shown them photos of our rave room. We never quite made it out because they had to get home to their babysitter but we were in the Luxor center bar as our second bar hanging out with them. I don't know just one thing led to another. He's on one side of me and she's on the side of Leo. I kind of think that was a little strategic. I think it was strategic. I think I was planned in advance and good on them for going ahead and making that happen. So we might have done some major PDA right in the middle of the center bar and then she and I started kissing. You know everybody's watching. That was the most swinger shit you could possibly do. And only in Vegas. Only missing a fishbowl to throw your keys in at the end of the night. It was really hot and tawdry and we were all for it. You know the plan was I think maybe also premeditated was to take a look at the red room. That's because it's got red lights. It's bathed in red. Like the red light district. Yeah that's sexy. We've been behind the red light district windows and it's sexy. It was interesting because they said we got to go because they had childcare and the carriage was turning into a pumpkin at midnight and they had to run but they were that close to seeing the red room and who knows what was going to happen. I think the carriage turned into a pumpkin at 10 o'clock because then we went to the gang bang. That's true. We actually invited them. We said I don't know how long you got your babysitter. This is weird but it's like a first date with you guys. Do you want to go to a gang bang with us? And they actually said we would have and I'm like you know you're our kind of friend. We do kind of a shit test sometimes. Where we'll throw something crazy out as a way of testing. So this has been going on now for a little while where we do these shit tests. I forget if we told you so if we have I'll keep it brief. We don't play in our hometown. Somebody on Cassidy was coming through our hometown on a rendezvous and we thought that would be fun just to meet for drinks with this couple. How about we call her pantyless couple. Instead of let's get into telegram and have a group chat and exchange backstage passes and face pics. We said let's do something different. Let's make it a blind date. No exchanging of contact info. No exchanging of photos. We're just going to meet each other blind. Site unseen. A fantastic couple. We probably... They're also a very attractive couple. Hanging out with them for maybe three hours and we just had the best rapport. The thing she wrote when we said we're not going to tell you what we look like. We're not even going to give you a way to contact us. Be at the bar 10 p.m. and we'll see you there. And she wrote back I am so excited. This is the most excited I've ever been for a run. I've been in the Vue since we've been in the lifestyle and I will be showing up with a rose in my hair and no panties. Wow. And it was so hot because if you go on dates with couples, we've been on a fair amount now that we don't always play with them, but we have been on the dates. They're kind of boring. Whereas like when you go with singles, it is definitely it's definitely hotter. Sometimes they meet you right at your hotel. Singles have a lot different energy. And I think that because we don't play with couples that often, I think these shit tests are almost a form of us throwing out a crazy offer just to see what will happen because well, let's just see if they bite, then maybe that's an indicator that there are kind of people like with Vegas couple. We wouldn't have said, oh, you're not our kind of people. No, we just we're like, OK, we want to hang out with Vegas couple, but I'm really intrigued. And I want to see this porn star have a 50 guy gang bang. So we thought, why don't we combine them all? And to their credit, they said, I would have loved to have seen it. And afterwards I sent her a little video. She's getting oiled and she's letting all the guys touch her, which is just crazy because they're her fans. Yeah, you take that parasocial relationship that's built up. Oh my God. And then all of a sudden they're having sex with her. That's wild. Bear back. So yeah. So that was wild. The PDA with Vegas couple was something else. The PDA, though, goes back to any less couple. That was the very first time somebody did PDA with us. And this was in our own backyard. And they said, do you know anyone here? We looked around. We're like, I don't see anybody. They said, do you mind if we sit on either side of you? So she's sat next to me. He's sat next to you. And the next thing you know, he's kind of touching a lot around you. She's got her hand on me. There's a lot of Kino going on. We were like, I don't know what to do with this because we were like deer and head like because we don't date couples very often. Whereas when we go out with singles, whether it's a girl or a guy, I'm going to reach across and I probably start stroking their arm. I hold their hand a little bit. But it's a single person. It doesn't seem as sus. We got our thruple with pusher and pusher-glor. And we're up in San Francisco. They call us out and say, is it a thruple? Yeah. And we're draped all over each other. And it's so obvious. And everybody in the bar is thinking, that is a thruple in the wild. Yeah. But that was new when it was- Any less couple. But now since then, when we met with the SoCal couple. Which we're going to talk about now. That was the most outrageous PDA that we'd done to date. We were standing in the middle of the bar and everybody had seen us with our respective partners. And now- We hit it off. We sat there at the bar having drinks for three hours. And then when it was time to go, again, that was one of those ophers that was in Southern California. And that was just sort of- Wasn't meant to be, but they still wanted to meet us. And they actually said, let's go back to the red room. They were the ones who coined that term, by the way. The red room. And I guess to do something a little more soft, we like it in the bedroom. Leo doesn't like stop signs. All lights are green. Because then you're uninhibited. So we had some opportunities this weekend that went over that we just decided not to take up. We had a single guy who is, I don't know, 27, 28, come into our field account, right? We're chatting at one in the morning. It seemed really hot. I looked at Leo. He's like, it's your turn. We go back and forth. And it seemed very much he wanted to watch. And Leo's like, you know what? We need him to do a little more than watch. You said, how do you feel about some light participation? And this is an interesting pro tip for newbie couples. If you're unsure about the energy that your play partner is bringing, you should think about asking them some leading questions. Like, because you don't want them to be super tentative. You would like a good bedroom energy. We like to say, somewhere between pushy and pussy. So we say we don't want them to be too tentative in the bedroom, because that's not sexy bedroom energy. But we also don't want them to be taken liberties. Not so brash. Yeah, we want them to be respectful also in the bedroom. But manly. But manly. So he said he'd never had a threesome before, but he always wanted to watch. And we thought, I think I could get my head around that. But you need to do more than that. You need some participation. So this particular guy at one in the morning, we're feeling a little horny. We want a little bit more than just watching. We definitely weren't going to go full with him, because we didn't really know him that well, because we're still really soft and moving pretty slowly. I didn't know if we were in the mood. And we thought somebody who's a watcher with some light participation could be exactly the kind of energy. I want him to go down on me. I want him to touch me. I want him to kiss me. I'll go down on him. So we phrase it like this. What are your thoughts about oral giving, receiving, and touching and kissing? And his reply was, well, you can give me head if you want. I mean, ew. What about pleasuring me? So as a single guy, you're almost framing it as if you're the prize coming into the bedroom. You've got the power of the P. There's no question. You should be on the pedestal. And he was hot and heavy as soon as we started writing him at one in the morning. It was his last night there. You could tell he was like, I'm going to be there in like 15 minutes. And you got to say, I don't think we're going to be a match. And then he disconnected from the chat and deleted himself. But that's the pro tip for newbies is you can ask them a leading question like, in your prior experiences, what are some of the things you'd like to have done? What are some things you'd like to do? And what are, and this is the most important, some things that you don't like to do. Because we saw somebody's profile on Cassidy, some single dude, and he said, I don't like blowjobs. I mean, that would be an immediate next. Yeah, because that's a stop sign in the bedroom. That's terrible. And that takes out one thing. What? I guess he just wants to fuck you because that's all there is. Yeah. Outside of that. And there should be so much more. To me, a sexual encounter should always be a full body experience with utilizing every tool that you've got in your toolbox. And so while we had a trip that was very much vanilla-ish, we didn't play with anyone. We didn't touch any strange generals. It was surrounded by lifestyle stuff. We went to three clubs. We saw a gang bang. We kissed a couple. Let's talk about the clubs. I mean, we're going to do a full review of the Vegas clubs, but we hit up Playhouse LV. We went to Flirts, which I guess is known as Nicole's now. And we went to Red Rooster for full time's sake. You sound like you've been dethroting, honey. The last time we went to Vegas, when we met Vlad the Impaler, naughty nanny and hot wife or teacher, we didn't go to a single club because we were so busy having sexy fun. That's right. This time, we went to a club every single night. Let's start with Playhouse LV. The TLDR version. Yes. We're not going to cover it in detail here. We're going to give it to you in like one line. I'm going to say that Flirts is at the top of my list. The ambiance, it's in a house. It's well-decorated. When you drive up to the house, it has this well-contained parking lot. It's got a lot of land. And it's like a really pretty adobe house. So it looks like a high-class house. It's a big place. You go in. The first thing you walk through is this oversized kitchen where it looks like you could come downstairs and get a midnight snack. You have somebody taking your money, getting your stickers on your alcohol, because it is BYOB, like an island, a kitchen island. And then you go into a living room, which apparently is big enough for 50 guys having a gang bang with a porn star. We met our friend from the Scarlet Ranch, red jacket dude. Red jacket dude who is dating the owner of Nicole. Nicole. Well, he's dating Nicole, right? So he actually sleeps upstairs in the bed. I said, is this weird that you've got 50 guys downstairs in your living room? Because they've got beds everywhere. And this is where they live. It's really well-decorated. But he's a cool motherfucker. And by the way, he is looking stacked. He looks jacked. Yeah, he is. He's been working out. We've known him for, I guess, we've been in the ranch. He looks like a fucking Chip and Dale's guy, right? We've probably known him for about six months. I know he was walking around shirtless. He's like, I'm the brawn. I'm the brawn with all these guys. We were going to have like a pose down together. He was going to make me look bad. So. I know. You better step up your game. Yeah, I better hit the gym. The next one down would be Playhouse LV. Playhouse LV has a lot of differences with flirts, even though they're owned by the same people. Go ahead and run down a couple of them. Well, Playhouse LV vets. And that was one of the main reasons we never wanted to go to Playhouse LV in our early days. We went to Red Rooster and Whispers, because we're kind of against the vetting process. Philosophically speaking. Yeah, when you go there, you're like, okay, it doesn't look like everybody's vetted. It's not a bunch of pretty people, but we feel so adamant that there should be a place for everybody. I don't give a damn what you look like. Everybody's got something to offer. Everybody's got some beauty outside, inside. And then Playhouse is in an old office building that they've redecorated very nicely, very modern. And they also have the unusual rule. It's forced mingling between 10 p.m. and midnight. You called it forced mingling. It is. You're not allowed to play until midnight when the play room's open. It's a little quirky, but one of the things about Playhouse that puts it in the second spot for me is we're not T-totalers. It has the unfortunate wrinkle, probably because of zoning laws, where they're in like a business park. In Industrial Park. Where they can't allow liquor to be brought in. They can't even do BYOB. We had forgotten, because we've already been. We even went there prior. Yeah. It totally didn't occur to us. We knew you're supposed to sneak it in. It's like on the don't ask, don't tell policy. Yeah, so if you go to Playhouse, they turn a blind eye and you can bring it like in a water bottle. You just have to sneak it in or in your purse and you stick it in your locker. They don't care, but it's really for zoning. So we show up like idiots with a bottle of champagne. The security, the bouncer, he's like, you can't bring this in. And he confiscated it. And then we said, oh, well we'll buy drinks. And we go up to the bartender and he's got like mixers. We're like, two waters please. Yeah, so we're drinking water with a straw. Oh my God, we're like, I might like a drink. I don't know, you know. Yeah, you know, a little liquid curbs. It is social, right? A little social lubricant does help. We're trying to have an evening. Flourts doesn't have that problem. You get to BYOB with a huge bar. But with that said, it's a good crowd. It's a solid club in Vegas and it's worth checking out. That then leads us to... Whispers. Whispers. Whispers and Red Rooster are similar-ish in that they're in homes, but it's down home. It's dated. Yeah. It's like from the 1960s, 70s rancher. It's key party stuff. Some people have described it as having a swinger party in your grandma's house, your grandparents house. With your grandparents' furniture. Yeah, with like some paisley furniture or something. Which by the way, we ain't fancy. So I don't have a problem with that. If you have shag carpeting in a sunken living room, I am there for it. So Whispers is couples only. It does get very busy. They allow everyone. So if you can't get in, playhouse, vetting wise, maybe Whispers is more your speed. Yes, I think people have described the crowd at Whispers as being the distinction between Whispers and Playhouse LV. It's just a different crowd. And Flourts really has the same crowd as Playhouse, even though it's not vetted. And then next down on the list, we have a real soft spot for Red Rooster. Well, we said in the past that some of the best experiences that we've ever had have been born from some of the most terrible clubs we've ever stepped forward. Our first Hell Yeah! MFM came from Power Exchange in San Francisco, which is a terrible sex club. Absolutely. That was Brad. I'm just going to say on record, fuck the Power Exchange. And the main reason is because they have aggro employees from top to bottom, whether it's the guy checking you in, the balancers. The co-check guy was nice. The co-check is always nice. The co-check guy, that's a cool motherfucker. He's exempt. Yeah, he is. But everybody else, when you walk in as a couple, I get maybe they have that aggro vibe for single guys to keep them in line. Treat the women like that. But they treat the couples like that. And for that reason, fuck the Power Exchange. But with that said, we met an amazing, our very first Hell Yeah! MFM, which is why we're doing this pod. It was born from that NRE. Yeah, the new relationship energy that was born out of that experience, it raged like a wildfire out of control for like three weeks a month. And yeah, that came from the mercy. They'll never forget it. Edward? Edward came from the most terrible club in all of Rome. We even went back a second time and we said, we'll never go back. But I found Edward. You found Robert Pattison from Twilight, a dead ringer. But Italian. We're making Italiano for you. With the Moppy hair and some dangling earrings. And a fluffed chin. And he really liked going down on me. And he was in great shape. We should have been after full with him. You wanted him post episode 69 is what you're saying. Yeah, that. I see what you did there. Free episode one. I told you he's in our phone. We'll look him up for old times sake. We will do that. And then Red Rooster was our first domestic club we went to, because we went to Vegas. We'd often go midweek. It's the only club open midweek and we liked single guys. So they allow single guys. Like when you go to the Red Rooster that you're dumpster diving. And the reason is because if you're one of those couples in the lifestyle as we are that doesn't mind the single males. If you're not afraid of single males, you can go to the Red Rooster. And it's unlimited. There's no unlimited. There's no limit. It's come one, come all. And we always feel like all you need is one good one. The time we went to the Red Rooster, we found one good one. And we got his phone number. We went dumpster diving and we found. We ended up going back to his place and we went back like four times. He lived in back of the Red Rooster. It was weird because he was dating the daughter of the owner of the Red Rooster. Right. And so we got a free place to live. And they broke up and. He was like one of those bad boys that she thought she could fix him. And so he ended up visiting Vegas really just to see him for like, I don't know, four more trips. It was an amazing repeat. We were escalating boundaries at that time. And that's why we kept going back. He was the first person I went down on. He was the first person that went down on me. And he was a great guy. He was from the Midwest. And I peed on him. He had a kink. It was in the bathtub. But at first I said, hell no. And then I said, you did say you wanted that. I said, I have to pee. Do you want me to pee on you? And he was so excited. Yeah, he was so excited. But he was a nice guy. Midwestern sensibility, which we get along with because they're real people. And so we have a real soft spot for the Red Rooster because we found something really great there. But having gone back this weekend, we're like, I know why people hate it. We actually asked about him and the owner. I guess we made the mistake of asking the owner, not the owner's daughter. Yeah. And she did not have a high opinion. Apparently they finally threw him out. And so that was the end of it. But there was almost closure because we went. And we went to the room. We did. We went to the room. We said, oh my gosh, this is a room with him. And then I said, that's the couch where we met him. I remember him commenting on my sparkly tights. And it's like a kid when you experience something and then you go back as an adult. It was like going back to the scene of the crime. It was a very different perspective. And so for us, it had a lot of closure. And it was really just nostalgic. But it also showed us that it was dumpster diving. Terrible. Now, on the other hand, we did go on a very slow Sunday night. And we probably would try it on a Saturday. In fairness, we always say, don't go on a Sunday. And we did. Keep breaking that rule. I know. It's because we're there on a Sunday. We're bored. But on Saturday, they did say that there might have been a couple of hundred people there. And so I would say to you guys out there, if you're not one of those couples that are scared of the perceived wanking dead. If you actually are open to maybe having an MFM or something like that or having guys watching you. It's probably worth a run through to see what there is to see. It's a couples only area upstairs. So if you want to escape from the single males, they also have that for you. It is really down home janky. And it's also 40 bucks for a couple and 60 for a single male. It's one of the few clubs that doesn't fleece the single males. And that's why it attracts so many. And so yes, it's probably worth a visit if you're a couple that doesn't mind an occasional single male. And then of course, Green Door goes below all that just because it's a sex club. Yeah, we used to say. It's not a swear club. It's an exhibition club. It's worth checking out once just for the novelty. When in Vegas type of place. It's a tourist thing to do. They do have a couple's area in the club where you're very safe and ensconced. Where you can sit in a chair and you can put your feet up on the two way mirror. That was obvious to say. And you can expose your bits while your husband has his fingers inside of you making you squirt. I think you squirted on the window. I think I did. And it has two way mirror glass. But you know when you get close to the glass, you can kind of see through it. And there were half a dozen couples and they were shoulder to shoulder and I could see them enjoying the show. They were all couples. They were all sort of single males as well. Oh, I'm sure they were. It was probably in a row too deep. Well, that was our exhibitionist days. Those we don't really have. And I think we probably said that the sun is set on our Green Door days. But again, it's probably worth checking out. It's not a scary thing. The guys there, single males, they're very respectful. Most single males in the lifestyle are respectful. So all in all, our Vegas trip, we went over but we had a lot of fun on the fringes and we had a really great connecting time for us as a couple sexually, just emotionally. Deep throating. And that leads us to a couple of weekends ago, we're in SoCal, the other oafer. One, two, three, stretch her up. Oof. We get this bright idea. We're going to take a five hour car trip. Road trip. Who doesn't love road trip? Leo hates driving in the car. Yeah, not me. He was a little bit perplexed when I said, we're not flying. We're going to drive. What? I like to fly to a place, land right in the city, and then go crazy. I'm the planner and I told him, if we fly, this is the cost. We're still going to have to get a rental car while they were there. It was ridiculous. And I said, this is how much it would cost to drive. And he's like, okay, you have to admit the road trip was. It had been years since we'd been on a proper road trip and it was cool. It was fun. It was fun. And we did all the touristy stuff. We went on the walk of fame. I stuck my hands in like Marilyn Monroe's, a gentleman prefers blondes thing in front of the Chinese man. Why did you stick your hand in? Nothing. Yeah, you're right. It was nothing. I had nothing. And you had porn boy. He did slide into our DMs on Thursday and Friday. Thursday you cockblocked me. Friday you cockblocked me. Well, I'll tell you why. Yeah. Tell me why. Because he was ready. Because we were going to meet SoCal couple. And we hit it off. They are the originator of the red thread. She brought me a gift, the red thread of fate. That was very thoughtful. Which is sitting on my nightstand right now. Like I really like it. It's all about how the red thread that connects all the people that are supposed to be in your life. Yes. Because she's supposed to be in my life, apparently. And so we hit it off so well. And then finally we kind of wound down the evening. And you know, it was social fun, but it wasn't sexy fun. And then I think we came back. It was a late night. It was probably like 12, 30. To the hotel. And what you doing? I was sort of kind of coming down from that a little. And also he realized, OK, clearly we're not going to play. And this was supposed to be kind of his thing. And to be honest with you, when you meet people, sometimes the moment passes. You just never know if you're actually going to ever see these people again. And so I think I was digesting that a little bit. And here I am popping up. Honey, porn boy. He wants to come over. He wants to slide into DMs. Honey, porn boy wants to come over. And Leo is just like, I just don't feel like I'm gracious enough right now to be able to handle that. Because we're also, this was post-Vlad. We were trying to put him off to the next day. Right. I didn't think that was that big a deal. But apparently he couldn't do the next day because he fell asleep. Yeah. So reliability is not his strong suit. No. Flaky. Is that how you describe him? He's flaky. But we didn't know that at the time. We didn't know him that well. Now we know because he was in Vegas this whole weekend and he was in and out of our phone. Are you in Vegas? Yeah, I'm in Vegas. What do you do? Where are you staying? And then just crickets. He's not reliable at all. Then we're on night two. And that was kind of the main reason why we're in SoCal. Although we weren't as excited about the Plush Party in the SoCal mansion as we were with our planned play dates. But our planned play dates all fell through. So let's talk about that SoCal mansion party. It's sort of the super secretive location. It's in this 15,000 square foot. It's like a concrete spaceship. People of Earth. Take me to your leader. It's round on a hilltop. It's a semi-circle. It's really posh. And we had heard about this particular Plush SoCal mansion party because we'd been to the Plush Dirty Vegas. And we thought, well, we had fun at the Dirty Vegas. And he threw a great party. And I want to go to a party. And imagine, you heard us talking about it. We want to go be the Beverly Hillbillies. So we roll up on it. And it's kind of cool because you drive your car up the hill. And it valley parks you. Now, it's not the Hollywood Hill. It was in a bit of a janky neighborhood to drive through. It wasn't as posh as all get out. But to get up there, you go through the super secretive kind of winding up into the hills. I think in realtor terms, the person who owns that house built the biggest, baddest house in the neighborhood. And they overbuilt. And it has a view of the hills, the lights, the skyline, the city lights. Because it's up there. It's hot. But it was kind of cool. It has an infinity pool. It has a hot tub outside. You drove up and there was security at the bottom of the drive. Bang, bang, dang it, the dang it, the dang. Looky, look what we got here. You'd roll your window down. You'd tell them where you're going. And then they would go to Valley Parking. It did. There was Valley Parking when you got there. And it's not vetted at all. You just have to sign up for plush parties. But you don't have to send photos, I don't believe. And that's the one thing that plush excels at. Is they know how to throw a party. The only caveat is that it attracts a certain kind of crowd where they're there for the social fun of it. I don't know how many of them play, even though this one is different because there's beds everywhere. I think that a lot of people would be hard pressed to find the sexy fun that they're looking for. With that said, plush parties are a pretty great deal. They're not expensive. I think we paid 150. We could have probably got it as cheap as 125 for a couple. Oh, and pre the party, right, we went at nine o'clock for the nighttime party. They had a daytime party at their pool. That was part of your cost. It was included. Right, we did go because we could only do so much in one day. So that's the only thing that I want to make people aware before they go in. It's plush is really cheap. Know that you're going to get a great party for a great value. And if so, if you have the opportunity, if you live somewhere near SoCal, you could drive like we did a few hours, it's worth it. The plush party in the mansion, you're in a mansion. I mean, it's got an indoor hot tub like sunken in. It's got a sauna. It felt posh. It felt high class and it was fun. And from what I understand, they've got their big flesh and fantasy Halloween ball in Palm Springs, California. It attracts a big party crowd. And we are debating going, but we think we're going to stick with Scarlet Ranch. And I think the distinction there, it was a close call because we figured this will be the third plush party. And if we go to Lake Havasu, that would be our fourth. You start meeting people. They run the circuit. They like plush. So it attracts the same people. You'll start meeting and seeing the same people over and over. A lot of California, a lot of Arizona, a lot of Vegas. It was a close call. But because of the distinction that we just mentioned that it's not finding the sexy. You'll struggle to find the sexy fun. I think that that's why we felt like we might want to go ahead and return to our adopted local club, the Scarlet Ranch, because we have had amazing experiences in Colorado, except for our very last trip was when I went over. Yes. You had three experiences, but I got unlucky and I made stapler, McDreamy mistake. Yeah. But we haven't been back to the scene of the crime since then. And we have a lot of friends there. Denver has been really good. Does it's been absolutely next level. And then we're not stuck in a hotel takeover that's couples only. We're like, where are we going to find our play style? We're going to stay at a janky holiday in and then go to the Scarlet Ranch for the Halloween party. Oh, and we're going to take our special flight attendant friend. Surely you can't be serious. I am serious. And don't call me surely want to get away. She's going to dress in theme with us. We should come dressed as an airline stewardess. What do you think? I bet she doesn't want to be an airline. That'd be like a nurse coming dressed as a nurse. I don't think we have a nickname for her. Is she going to be our stewardess? She's a stewardess. She's a stewardess. Because we don't just fly you. We like you. But what's up with that? That Southwest is charging for bags these days. I thought that was their one selling point. That and the peanut. We missed kind of the heyday apparently of Southwest because I never flew it while it was taking free bags. And now Southwest always felt weird. It doesn't have seating assignments. It's like a cattle car. It's a cattle car. You just go in there. Some of the seats are actually rear facing. Did you know that? I didn't know that. You would probably love it because sometimes I'm too cheap to pay for seats. And then at least we'd sit together. Well, that's a good point. Right. Because I pout like a prickly pear. Every time the cat is too much of a cheapskate to pay the upsell on getting seats together. We flew on Spirit to get to Vegas. The Greyhound of the sky. And I refused to pay for seats. And I knew, I told him, we're going to both be in middle seats and you're just going to have to get over it. It's always a crapshoot. And we got really lucky. We got to sit together. He got so happy. I don't know what it is. Two for two. I can deal with sitting not with you for an hour and a half. I don't like it. Because one of these days we're going to go down in an airplane because we travel way too damn much. And I'm going to be looking at the love of my life. Five rows up there. Is this your wife? I want to like sex you up while we're going down. Do you know what I mean? If you're, that's right, one last deep throat for the road. Before I get to the pearly gates. You're going to put some jizz in me? If I ever make it there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't, we're all swingers. Well, if I'm not making it there, I definitely want one more deep throat for the road. Give him that hawk to spit on that thing. But yeah, Southwest, I digress. We're talking about our airline stewardess. She said she was going to match in theme with us. We're going to go as football player and schoolgirl. And we told her what we're going to dress as. It's a date. She said, I'm going to come up with the best school themed to match you guys. So that would be so much fun. We've never played with her. She's just a friend, but we're really excited to spend some more time. We've been playing the long game with her. She was one of those we met as far back as roller girl in Denver. Do you know where we met her? I met her on Reddit. Um, what the segment? Oh, are you kidding me? I am not kidding you. It was one of those weird ones because you don't really meet real people on Reddit or. Reddit is like dumpster diving. It is like. To be honest with you, it's just. Okay. I am going to be honest with you this last weekend in Vegas. I was feeling a little pouty. I was not finding what I wanted. Horn boy, was it coming through and tick tock boy was not going to be showing up in Vegas. I actually went on Vegas R for R. I can't believe you just said that out loud. If I could start kind of drumming up some business and I did find two cute guys, which was amazing. I thought one of them we thought we were going to have a daytime tryst with on our last day in Vegas, like at noon. And then the other one, he was European. He was Slovakian, but he seemed he was a male looking for a female and you're like, it just wasn't. He's like, I'm tested. He didn't seem to have the right energy. No soft skills for an MFM. Yeah. You're like, I'm not just like. They felt a little sex dollish transactional, throw some money on the night. We met her on Reddit and we didn't really believe she was real. You know, she's a unicorn. Well, unicorn on Reddit. That's a feel to. But we exchanged insta. And so I knew right away, she's real. We met her. We chatted for hours and we're going to hang on. We met her at a Starbucks and she rolled up in the parking lot. And the first impression I had of her, you know, when you roll your car up and your low license plate on the front of your car goes up onto the curb and scrapes when you pull it back out. Too many times. Yeah, I do that all the time too. And that was her first. But you know, what was so cute, we mentioned it in a really cute way because, you know, that's how we roll. And she said, I just got my driver's license because I never really needed it because she was living in Europe. Strangely sexy. I know. I don't know why I find that to be strange. It was adorable. I thought it was really cute too. But yeah, I guess finally on Hollow's Eve. All hollows. We're going to see what may come with our stewardess. Stewardess girl. Yeah. Fly the friendly skies. I bet a book those tickets. I want to get away. So the mansion party was fun. It was hot in the house. They should have thrown those giant bay doors that sort of created that inside outside living. Because everybody. Well, we went in the middle of a heat wave at SoCal. It was like 110 degrees in the daytime. That's right. It was 106 when we landed. I've never been to SoCal. I've never been to LA. Everybody's telling me, oh, well, you picked like the heat wave weekend. But I think they were trying to do temperature control because, you know, it probably cost a lot of money to cool the house down. So they were telling us to close the doors instead of flinging them open. But it made it hot inside. So we spent most of our time outside, which they had a really lovely back terrace with a pool. And so we did meet two unicorns there. And we had the opportunity. We were going to play with both of them. I thought, well, it'll be an MFF, not the extra F, but three Fs. And that'd be fun. But one wanted to stay at the party and see what come what may, you know, maybe some group action. And one wanted to come home with us. But I think she was the ride or die friend. And she said, I've got to take care of my friend. I've got to stay with her. And so we made a rain check with her for our next Vegas trip. She's going to join us in Vegas for a night or something. Yeah, I think we'll definitely do that. It will make that happen. But the house was really well set up. It had all of this sort of dim blue red lighting. It was very sexy ambience. Beds everywhere in all the bedrooms. They had like a porn viewing room where they had some porn on the television and a bunch of couches. It was really well decorated. You could find spots to play. There was an outdoor area you could also play in. You could tell that Plush puts a lot of thought and effort into creating the set and setting. It's a great set and setting. And it was sexy and it was cheap for being in a mansion. I mean, how many of us? Sexy and cheap. That's exactly the kind of combination. Yes. That's made for Kat and Leo. Yes. And we felt posh because we're in a mansion. However, yeah, what? Finding the sexy fun elusive. Well, we found the two unicorns. But we did get cock blocked. Did we meet some listeners there, by the way? Oh, we met two sexual listeners. We just got to shout out Sweet James. You know what I'm talking about, Sweet James, right? Seriously injured in an accident. What are you going to do next? He's going to call Sweet James. They're talking about that billboard in the Bay Area for that personal injury lawyer. He's called Sweet James. Isn't he up against someone else? Like they're. That's right. I don't know what her name is. But he doesn't much catch your name. We're not going to shout her out because of her. But his 800 number is something like 800-900-000. I've never memorized because I'm too stupid for that. Did Sweet James pay us for that? Would that be funny if we slipped it in and you're like. Have you been injured in an accident? You could learn a lot from a dummy. Call Sweet James. 800-900-000. I know. That would be a great way to put in some advertising without anybody knowing we're advertising. But we're not. We're not. We're just talking to you about it. So we met Sweet James. Apparently he saw us on the bliss cruise, wanted to meet us. But by the time he turned around. Not the personal injury lawyer, mind you. But just we call him Sweet James. And by the time he turned around, we were gone. Like the four wins. And he didn't see us again on the bliss cruise. And so we found him. And desert couple. And desert couple. They were a cool couple. We saw them. It was like pitch black darkness. And in the darkness, we're all talking. They knew exactly who we were. And all of a sudden, I hear somebody say, I know who you are. And he's like, we went to Europe based on all your recommendations. So shout out to you guys. You guys were fantastic. We saw Adam and Eve again. We like Adam and Eve a lot. We do. I like you guys even more now that we're getting to know you. I like him better every time I see him. Yeah. They're growing on us. Yeah. And plus he's got a great naked ass in that Adam and Eve outfit. And plus they could invest in our Swinger Club idea. Oh, yeah. I'm not sure we're going to open up a Swinger Club. Yeah. We've been to enough Swinger Clubs. It just looks like a lot of work. It doesn't look like a lot of fun. Yeah. I like having fun. I want to do something that's fun. We want to play with porn stars. Let's have a content house where we invite a bunch of only fan stars. We'll just have sexy fun with all of them. Without being on camera. But if we're like renting the house, that's like what you got to pay. Yeah. We'll do like the catering and stuff. Right. I'll be the fluffer. And I get to like. I'm not the fluffer. You're the fluffer. I could be a deep throat fluffer. Only the hot ones though. Okay. Only the hot ones. I could deep throat porn boy. It's like a magic trick. I'm making that disappear. Yeah, we'll see. You think that step mom porn. You think that that would be an unusual thing that his porn stars are not all doing that. They don't because having something go physically in your throat and block your airway. For most girls, that's not. I bet I could practice with a hot dog. Oh, yeah, you could. Like just in like in my vanilla time, like just for the hell of it. Mm hmm. That would be interesting to just like, let me just see. Let me help with that gag reflex. I told you before that squirting is like a parlor trick. And you taught me how to do that like a year and a half ago. And I did say that the other parlor trick was a deep throat. You said that I've been trying to teach you how for you said that we should actually go back to power exchange and put on a show with me deep-throating. And we've had a breakthrough. A magnificent spectacular. Breakthrough. And we call it B D T and A D T before deep throat and after deep throat. Yeah. So, you know, those little security signs, we're going to put one out front. A D T because I'm after deep throat. Hell, yeah. Soon I get to share my gift with the world. Yeah. See, that's what Kat's doing as she's playing the wrong game. She's practicing on me so she can perfect her craft. I've got to bring the boys back. They're going to be like, I want some of that. Your deep throat brings all the boys to the yard. Something might we'll see. What happened after the mansion party? Well, we got cock blocked. We did end up playing. Porn boy was in our phone. Saturday clearly went a good day for him. So we ended up empty handed. We actually got back to our hotel and we talked to the unicorns and we said, hey, meet us back at the hotel. However, if you guys get caught up here, no worries, we'll take a rain check. When we went back to the hotel, we weren't sure what was going to happen. So we decided to put out feelers for the porn guy. So we had two unicorns, a porn guy and we went strike one, strike two, strike three. Crickets, crickets, crickets. So yeah, that happened on our way home back on Sunday. We were going to the cracker barrel. We were really degenerates, OK? But we didn't large, but we were degenerates. Why don't you tell the degenerate part about it? My memory is fuzzy already. We were on to Vegas since that our way home on Sunday, five hour car trip. Hour and a half up the road to the cracker. We already checked out of our hotel. Porn boy slides into our DMs, telling us what you're doing. I'm free later tonight after a shoot. And we turned the dam around. Of course, it was after we ate cracker barrel. And you ate like grandpa's country fried steak. Oh, yeah, grandpa's country fried steak, a side of dumplings, cinnamon apples, biscuits, biscuits and gravy and some sweet tea, some damn sweet tea for Kat. Yeah. And this would have been a fantastic idea. You know what? We've got sexy fun waiting for us. We can go home a day late. It'll be OK. We're just driving. We could stay one more night if it had worked out and we got. Yeah, that wasn't our proudest wank. It was not our proudest way because there was no way. We actually booked a day use hotel and I told you, I said, you know what? Even if he flakes, it's still worth it because we were also at that point, I was feeling the frustration that you were feeling of having this drought when it came to the single guy. And I wanted to make this happen for you. And I'm still in a drought. So I didn't care. How do you feel now? We're going to turn the damn car around. Well, I'm handling it better. You're handling it better. Two things. Yeah. One, we're passing on play opportunities that we don't feel are the right. Well, we had the young guy very handsome. I actually showed a photo of him to Hottie Hozer. She's like, oh, he looks really good. What are you going to do in the bedroom? Well, you can give me head if you want. Get the how about you stick your face down there and lick it? You tell. You just don't want that bedroom energy. You're like, really? It needs to be be a pleaser, be a giver, and I'll give back for your money. You want a manly man in there? And you know, you talk about somebody like region, Gage, and you talk about Vlad the Impaler. If you ask them, what are you going to do with me when you get to the bedroom? Their answer would be, I'm going to do everything. Well, I remember Vlad after we kind of finished up, but we weren't quite finished up. He decided I'm going to go one more time. I'd like to make you squirt one more time. Like he just couldn't contain himself. Like the little parlor trick. Yeah, you had like a pleaser energy in the bedroom. It wasn't just like, here's my cocks. Stick it in your mouth. But we've been passing on opportunities to play. We passed this weekend on Slovakia and European guy, very attractive guy. But he was giving off shades of I'm going to be a sex doll. And we've also been handling the times when we've had missed opportunities. So those two things, passing on ones that aren't the right fit. Not lurching and not lurching and handling better when things don't go well. That, to me, is a maturation process of our lifestyle. Only two weeks ago in SoCal, we did not handle it very well. It was a bit oofy. You had to talk me off a ledge. I was really frustrated. Yeah, you were in a funk on that day. I was in a funk funk funk. And then, of course, the next day, we woke up and had won the award. So it felt like that was a sacrificial lamp. That's true. You thought that we had to go over in order to get podcast of the year. That still sounds weird. I know. It doesn't just doesn't sit right. We're supposed to get the hard wire podcast of the year. They have hardware, huh? Yeah, they have a trophy. We're going to put that in our Memento box. I know because no one can know about it. And we go and we do the unthinkable at the Avian awards. We're going to have hardware that's stuck in a dusty, musty, crusty box. We need to come up with somebody. Old and gray one day and like great grand children are going to discover that box. The water bottle. Grandma! What the hell is wrong with you? From Brad. What the hell is the porn Oscars award doing in your Memento box? We're going to have the ice tongs from Edward. We have some Memento beyond Memento. We love our Memento box. And this weekend, you said you were going to take the key card from our hotel. But we didn't play with anyone. Usually I sharpie it with the name if we had some fun. And you were going to sharpie it with DT. Deep throat. It's the time I deep throat. That was the weekend that you had a breakthrough. And we had such an amazing time. Just the two of us. I mean, we had sex till morning. I feel like I want to pass out cigars to all my boys to let them know that my girl has entered the rarefied air of the deep. And he's so excited. He said, I get to shout out into the void. We said, if you could suck your own dick, how many guys out there would be sucking their own dicks? I mean, you guys be deep throat in it. I would not be deep throat. I give myself a high look. But yeah, it's like, you know, you have this new toy. You want to take it for a spin. So we're going to do some deep throat after this. Maybe. Maybe. Now, what do I have to like do dishes and housework to get a deep throat? I like to play a little coy. Not with me. Yes, with you. And I'm going to be a prickly pear until I get some deep throat. Then I'm really going to play coy. Oh, really? Oh, really? All right. But then we drove home. We got to go to Cracker Barrel again. So that was a plus. And we kind of turned the whole trip around and we actually realized how much fun we had in SoCal. When we came back, it was similar to this Vegas trip where we said we had a lot of fun without having any sexy fun because we were having sexy fun on the edges, you know, we're going to these events. It was going to gang bangs. We're meeting friends talking about life. Stars talking about doing a collab. Sometimes we're having PDA with opposite partners kissing. That's fun. But it doesn't mean you're touching strange genitals always. We're learning. Are we growing up a little bit? We're getting all grown up. All grown up, huh? Yeah. I don't know how I feel about that. I like it because I never want to grow up. I don't. I know. I ain't never grown up. Yeah, you're juvenile. Yeah, I am juvenile. So what's your verdict on Plush Party? We've been to the mansion party in SoCal. We've been to Dirty Vegas where you're making out with some celebrity. I was. Then we were talking about going to Lake Habasue. And they've got the flesh and fantasy ball. I have to say I've heard about Plush for the last year. I think I heard it mostly around New Year's Eve when we were planning what to do on New Year's Eve last year. It was going to be our first New Year's in the lifestyle. We decided to go to Scarlet Ranch because we had just discovered the Scarlet Ranch. But my other option was Plush. They have a big San Diego New Year's Eve. But everything you read about Plush is it's real showy. The people don't really play. It's more dirty vanilla. And so that was my thinking of what Plush was going to be like. And now I know what Plush is like. Well, it turns out there is a lot of showy. There is a lot of dirty vanilla. There is. And there is a subgroup that do attend these parties where I do feel like they think. It's a little more of the pretty people were the fit, fun, professional couple that kind of exists in there. And it can be clicky. And it's also because it's a whole so Cal kind of feel. I mean, it's a mansion party, right? It makes sense. But I'd say overall Plush is a great value for the money. They have great ambiance and they know how to throw a party. So I am sure Lake Havasu. It's like a two night party. They've got a Daisy Dukes theme. It's on the lake. And but that's the daytime party. They have a nighttime party at a hotel with themes. Daisy Dukes is one. Steampunk is the other. And I know that's another reason why we're probably not going to go. I can't get costumes together in two weeks and they go all out. Yeah, we might postpone that till next year. We might because I think we're going to be we got to go back to Vegas and meet Hottie Hozer. Well, you want to see Shy Guy and then we've got to see Pusher. Yeah, I need to get myself a manicorn. I need a regular. It has been a long time since I've had two cops in the bedroom. Yeah, way too long. I really. Yeah, it's been like six weeks. What are we going to do about that, Kat? We're supposed to see Shy Guy week from today. OK, we're going to make that happen. It better happen. We get always as Pusher to put on the strap on. What do you think about that? Sure. You're going to teach Pusher how to deep throw? No, that's my special skill. OK, all right. I'm not going to teach you that. That's your brand. That's my brand. Kat Deep Throat. Everybody who knows you from now on, listeners who come up to you are going to say it's not that big a deal. I'm curious. I don't know why you think it is because there's a mental block. You think I don't want that down my throat. But there's sword swallower's. They do it. Yeah, and not everybody sword swallows. I bet I could. I bet you could. Kat Deep Throat. Sword Swallower. Hurry, hurry. Step forward. 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