Dead Meat Podcast

269: The Out of Context Game 2

72 min
May 14, 202617 days ago
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Summary

In this out-of-context game episode, hosts James and Chelsea attempt to identify quotes from their 250+ episode archive, guessing who said each quote and which episode it came from. The game reveals how much content they've produced over the years and how difficult it is to remember specific moments, even for the hosts themselves.

Insights
  • Long-form podcast archives create significant memory challenges for creators—even hosts struggle to recall their own statements without context
  • Audience engagement with deep-cut podcast moments suggests listeners retain episode details better than creators do
  • Content amortization strategy (reusing set builds over years) is a practical business consideration for production-heavy shows
  • Parasocial relationships with actors/creators can form before meeting them in person, based on previous work exposure
Trends
Horror podcast hosts increasingly interview filmmakers and industry figures as content strategyIndependent filmmakers (Kane Pixels, Curry Barker) gaining recognition outside traditional studio systemStreaming distribution platforms creating new opportunities for independent film monetizationMormon/religious imagery and themes becoming more prominent in contemporary horror analysisNostalgia-driven content (Y2K references, childhood media) resonating with millennial audiencesThird-space decline and social media anxiety becoming recurring cultural commentary themesGlitter/sparkle vampire trope historical precedent (Lost Boys) being rediscovered through Twilight criticism
Topics
Out-of-context game mechanics and podcast format experimentationHorror film analysis and character interpretationMormon culture and religious imagery in horrorIndependent filmmaking and distributionStreaming platform strategy for independent creatorsNostalgia and millennial cultural referencesThird spaces and social anxiety in digital ageParasocial relationships with creatorsContent production economics and amortizationVampire mythology and film historyPodcast archive management and listener engagementMarketing failures and cultural sensitivitySet design and production reuse strategies
Companies
Blumhouse
Ryan Turrick from Blumhouse was interviewed; producer on Truth or Dare horror film
Paramount
Acquiring Long Legs sequel with Nick Cage as lead, moving from Neon distribution
Neon
Original distributor of Long Legs; passed on sequel due to budget constraints
Amazon
VOD platform mentioned regarding independent film distribution requirements
Spotify
Platform where Dead Meat Podcast episodes are listed and available
People
Curry Barker
Upcoming guest interview; director of Obsession horror film; discussed Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Kane Pixels
Creator of The Backrooms; mentored by Oz Perkins; discussed independent filmmaking journey
Oz Perkins
Mentor to Kane Pixels; director of Long Legs and The Monkey; met at Backrooms screening
Ryan Turrick
Interviewed about Truth or Dare; producer on horror films; personal friend of hosts
Markiplier
Discussed as potential future guest; launching independent VOD distribution platform
Andy Richter
Recently interviewed about Catholicism and horror; discussed religious imagery in horror
Chewetel Ejiofor
Met briefly at Backrooms premiere; discussed potential future interview
Stephanie Meyer
Discussed as Twilight creator; analyzed vampire mythology and Lost Boys influence
Quotes
"I swear to God, if we have kids and we pop out a little Ronald Reagan, I don't know what I'm going to do with myself."
ChelseaEarly in episode
"We're millennials. It happens."
ChelseaMid-episode
"That's why I think in a past life, I was like some feudal king who just made all his court play shitty parlor games with him to amuse him."
ChelseaMid-episode
"You know I love my naked old ladies."
JamesLate in episode
"I just don't think Stephanie Meyer is the type. But then again, she likes Muse."
ChelseaFinal round
Full Transcript
What do you think? I think we're dead meat. Real dead meat. You're dead meat! Go ahead and laugh you guys. If I have a final little glasses of business, we're dead meat. Welcome to the Dead Meat podcast, your horse, they pave and I'm Chelsea. I'm James, we're married and we like to get scared together. Yes, okay, important. We're going to do some things before we play our out of context game, part two. I can't believe it's only the second time. I think I said this in the Christian movie reviews episode. It's like farming. You have to let the crops regrow. You can't over harvest. Sure, yeah. You'll get like dead soil. So I'm going to make a list for us of all the games we've played and how many times we've played each because in my mind we've played a few, a ton of times, Tom's starting to think we've played a ton a few times. So next week, I think it is coming out next week, not the week after. You're welcome. We have an interview with Curry Barker. Yes. Curry Barker came to our house to sit with us and chat with us for the show and it's a really great interview. That's the writer, director of Obsession. Yes. Also Milk and Cereal recently covered on Kill Count, a couch comedy that's a bad idea with Cooper Tomlinson. We asked about Texas Chainsaw Massacre, got some interesting news, not news. Tell them it's news. We got scoops, dude. We got exclusives. He told us who the killer is in Texas Chainsaw Massacre and he said who plays Leatherface. It's me. I was going to say it's Adam Sandler. It's Adam Sandler. Oh, yeah, come with your chainsaw. I'd watch it. I'd watch the fuck out of there. Dude, okay, wait, let's count. Okay, the Sawyers, but it's the Adam Sandler regulars like who's who. Oh, fucking Schneider's Chop Top, right? Yes. Steve Buscemi's the hitchhiker. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Steve Buscemi counts. Steve Buscemi's nubbins. Yeah. Is there space for Kevin James? I mean, could he just be the dad? It's the brother. Or that's right. Why do I always think he's the dad? Because everyone always thinks it's dad. He's so much older. That's right. He's older brother. Look what your brother did to that star. Because he can pull off the, he could, oh, I'm just a nice friendly guy who runs this gas station slash grill thing. But no, I'm actually the patriarch of this cannibal family. Sawyers paid. We can invent a new character for David Spade and he just kind of plays himself and comments on everything. Yeah. Wow. Okay guys. Weird. He's eating the Sawyer chili. I wouldn't, but you do you. Yeah. You go on and have fun with that. That's why we're not doing the new Texas chainsaw. That's why Curry Barker is doing it. But that's why we're doing the new Texas chainsaw too. Right. Traditionally the comedic one. Yeah. And it's a different tone. And we're going to do it. This is important because we didn't get to this on the episode, but I asked him about it after. I remember when we were talking about these little, the miracle fish on our podcast and I was asking who had even heard of these and you hadn't, Gressel, you hadn't, but some of our friends had, it seems like it's a, it's a toying, toying cause. I'm just going to leave. Toying cause. Toying cause. Don't let the door toing you on the way out. It seems like it's kind of a coin toss and maybe like a regional thing, but they're these kind of, I don't know, you get them at like the roller rink in the same vein as like a plastic spider ring or a, yeah. But I thought when we saw obsession that the design on the front looked a lot like the one wish willow. It's the exact same colors and the style is just so, so similar. And I thought coming out of that movie that they had to have been inspired by that because it's also kind of a, ooh, it's magical. It's got, it's got secret powers, total coincidence. Curry had no idea what the fuck these fish were, man. Yeah. He had no idea. I gave him a bunch of them. He was like, do I have one? We were like, try a bunch. Try a whole bunch. Yeah. He said he was going to give them to people at the premiere. So I hope he did. So there we go. He probably put them in his pocket and they all curled. Yeah. So now we have our answer, just a weird coincidence. But yeah, I like it. So let's get to our out of context game. When was the last time we did this? The first time we did this. It was in this studio. I would say maybe a couple of years ago. I can't believe it's been fucking four years since we've had these set builds. I know. That's crazy. Been doing this long enough to have arrows. And it's a nice thing because, you know, a lot of money goes into a set build and you can do the thing where if, you know, you think about making an expensive purchase and you do the math of, okay, I think I'll use it this many times and divide it up. What's that? Amort. Amortize. Amortize, baby. Amortize those costs. Yes. When you're older and boring, you learn such words like amortize and escrow. We did this three years ago. Well, it's time for another one. May 28th? Whoa. Whoa. Oh man. No, it's not. Okay. I had to check the date, but it was May 28th, 2022. Real close though. Same month. May 22? Yeah. May 24. Wow. Yeah. My hair looks good. It looks like I got it recently. Your hair always looks good. People always say that. People are saying. Many people are saying my roots are grown out. It's book right now. Okay. Let's play the out of context game. Context for the viewer. The context for the out of context game is that Gressel has been given a spreadsheet, essentially, of just weird shit that either James or I have said on this podcast. I wonder if Gressel quotes are in there now. I wouldn't think so. Have you looked at all of them? Quick scroll. I bet there's trick ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't even tell us. Don't tell us. Don't tell us. Don't tell us. I'm not going to say. But that's something we should keep in mind. Yes. We're going to try and guess these quotes that Gressel reads out loud, whether James or I said them, or possibly Gressel, who knows, whether James or I said them, and what episode it was, and kind of what the context was. It's going to be tough. It's been over 200 episodes, 250. Oh, yeah, I guess these could be pulled from any era. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get our first. You ready for the first one? I'm ready. I swear to God, if we have kids and we pop out a little Ronald Reagan, I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. Sounds real Chelsea. OK, yes, that was definitely me. Why would we be talking about? Hold on. OK, it's a movie where there's like, it's got to be a movie where there's this sounds so familiar. It's a movie where there's a kid like a kid who's who's the who's the voice of reason and is kind of annoying about it. But I'm just drawing a total blank. I'm going to say Chelsea the stuff. OK, we're agreeing that we're allowed to look at the list of episodes on Spotify. So we're not just sitting here trying to remember what the fuck we've even talked about on this show. Well, then that case, we probably only get one guess each. I agree. OK, so I'm guessing it's going to be something where there's like just a weird stick in the mud little kid. I think it's the Lost Boys. I just feel because there's a bunch of weird little kids in that and they I know I find them annoying. I don't think Reagan's on the radar. That's the only thing I can think of. OK, I will. I guess I'll just stick with Chelsea's quote. It's the stuff. Are you can tell us now if we are. It is Chelsea. It is Chelsea. OK, neither of us got the episode right. No, OK, yeah, because it's her and her husband Bert who is played by Michael Gross, who holy shit is the dad and family ties, which I watched the hell out of. Which one's family? Family ties is the hippie parents with Michael J Fox as the conservative kid. Alex, I can't fucking know. I love that show. Alex and Mallory and other girl can't remember her. Yeah, I swear to God, if we have kids and one of them, we pop out a little Ronald Reagan. I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. APK, man. Wait, what? Alex P Keaton. That is Michael J Fox's character's name. Of course. Oh, Tremors. It is Tremors. Fuck. I was like, this doesn't help. We're just talking about that one fucking show. Oh, Tremors is a while back, too. Oh, man. OK, OK, OK, now we know that. It was episode 107. 107. I forget who grabbed this might have been Bella. I think grabbed clips. She dug deep. Yeah, I expected them to be like the most recent 50 episodes or something. See, this is why sometimes when we meet people at conventions, you guys will come up and say a line from the podcast at us and we're just like, what? Because we don't remember. And to us, it just sounds like word sound. Because we don't remember the things we say. I'm going to use the Dead Meat Wiki podcast list because it's a little faster. It doesn't have the little blurbs. OK, wait, I'm going to do that, too. It's not. All right, who's slacking on the Dead Meat Wiki because your podcast list ends at it's alive in February. Oh, it's been a few months. The next one is I just feel like the president is thinking, do I nuke Haddonfeld? I don't know. OK, we're talking about Haddonfield. Haddonfield. This is Halloween ends. Oh, probably a Halloween, I would assume. It's one of the new Halloween. I think it's Chelsea saying that. This feels like something I would say. Yeah, for sure. Again. And I think it's Halloween ends. I'll say Chelsea Halloween kills. James is correct. Oh, coin flip and I got it. The National Guard would be in Haddonfield if a guy just killed an entire fire department. Well, this does all take place in one night. So. Still? I don't know how quickly people could get there. But it just seems, I just feel like the president is thinking like, do I nuke Haddonfield? I don't know. I forgot that. Yeah, he kills a whole fire department at the end of because I was thinking like what's happening in either of those movies that is going to prompt the president of the United States to move in. Kills comes out. Who's president? Is that Trump one or is that sleepy Joe? I think that's Trump one. Well, it would at least take place the same night as Halloween 2018. So that's one. They're getting nuked. They're getting nuked. If it's Trump two, they're getting nuked. The next one is fuck you. Fuck this script. It's so fucking stupid. No one would say that. That's James. And oh, this is this is House of Wax. Fuck it's probably House of Wax. Hold on, but there are a few that I might have said this about. It's the newer episode. You're oh, you're going to go with House of Wax revisited. Because I mean, I feel like you say this in both episodes, but I my gut is telling me that this is you reiterating it in the newer episode. I really want to say House of Wax original coverage because I think that's the safer choice, but just to get a little spicy there. What's the maybe deep rising? I feel like I'm playing about some stuff going on in there. So I'll say James deep rising. Chelsea saying James House of Wax revisited. It is not either of those movies. It is James. The first person to say anything after they watched this enough film of their friend says bad break. What the fuck Tyson our friend just died. Yeah, bad break. It's a pool joke. Fuck Tyson. Fuck this script. He's Patrick Bateman and we'll get more into why he's Patrick Bateman later, but it's so fucking stupid. No one would say that. No one would say that. No one would watch a video. It's so we fear everyone's like what the fuck do, but still they're not sad. No, even if you hate Ronnie, which we all do. Truth or dare. Oh, Ronnie. Ronnie brings the party, dude. Thanks, Ronnie. Thanks for the heads up. Wait, not it's Ronnie. Why did I say Ronnie? Like a bronchie. Was that his nephew? That's his son. That's his son. I don't know anything about basketball. A trackle school. Yeah. No, you will. Ronnie bringing the party, giving me another point. Truth or dare. I just feel like Bronnie's a nephew name. Well, like if if if LeBron James is Donald Duck, then I just do in Louis like Bronnie such a fucking Huey, do we do you? I'm sure plenty of people in Bronnie's life call him nephew. He's a nephew to something. That's in a future out of context. Yeah, when are we going to have out of context quotes from the out of context? We don't know. That could be from the first episode. Could be. That was episode 20, by the way. Jesus Christ, fellow. What the fuck? Did you just did she just sit and listen to the whole? I know. I just I'm just imagining Bella like late at night like drinking coffee all frazzled listening to five episodes at once. Like 1.5 Steve. Truth or dare. The episode that. Truth or dare the episode that. We met Ryan Turrick from Blumhouse who we're good with. We're friends. Oh, yeah. But when we first met him, one of the first things he said to us was like, listen to your episode on truth or dare. He was a producer on it and you just heard the stuff that we said about it. Oh, man. All right. It is. I haven't been counting points for when you both gotten the correct name. That's fine. Which you have gotten 100 percent of both of you batting a thousand on. Yeah, which I suggested once on an episode when we were keeping score for something and I was like, OK, so if we both get it, I'll just cancel it out. You got so pissed at me. You're like, no, give us our points. You don't get pissed when he's when he suggested. I don't want to overburden him. OK. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot happening over here. OK. He's like, do you want a good line cutter? You know, spoilers, you're not getting a good line cutter. No. All right. So it is James three Chelsea zero based on that scoring metric. That's so bad. I edit this show, dude. Yeah, dude, I do. I say these things once and leave. You sit with them. Well, you have you have gotten who said it. Both of you 100 percent right. I feel like I'm stealing the points because like, yes, we heard the context and I was like, oh, character names. Yeah, these are really bad at remembering character names. These are stolen points. Ronnie brings the party. So well, there you go. OK. Next quote, dude, what the fuck? Let her wear the bikini. She looks hot as fuck. I'm going to say Chelsea. Yeah, that's me. Who's not allowed to wear a bikini? This sounds. Who's being told? I feel like I remember saying that in this house in this house in this house. We say where the. In this house. That was the skin and ring phone. Let her wear the bikini. I'm like, erotic. No. No. Even though it could apply. You're like just talking to Mormons in general. Are they? They're probably a lot to wear bikinis. I'm sorry. I don't know. That's the thing is like, are they? I think they don't even know because the rules are so like there's loopholes on loopholes and maybe you can if you somehow find a way to wear your garments underneath. That's right. Yeah. The let her wear it. Yeah, let her wear it is what's really throwing me because what. So a character is somehow preventing a woman from wearing. From wearing a bikini. So is it like a controlling spouse or partner? Okay, I'm just going to guess. Okay. Me and no, this feels like cheating. I don't think it's this episode, but I can't think of anything else and I don't want this episode to take forever. So I'm just going to go out on a limb and say it's the worst horror husbands episode. Okay. Not bad. Not bad. I will say Chelsea and. I just know it was something we recorded here because I remember saying it here. I think because it's one of those movies and podcast episodes that I simply don't remember anything from. So maybe it's part of it. White noise. I'll say let your dead wife wear the bikini. I don't know. It is Chelsea. Okay. Neither if you got the movie. Okay. The first winner of Melrose Placed was the first on board posting a photo of herself Thursday tweeting doing the Demi power to the 47 year olds exclamation like five exclamation where she is my idol smiley face. Good for her. Morris shots were a bit fuzzy, but one thing is clear. Her two pay her two piece. Whitpix sends a dismal message. With validation comes from teasing anonymous online followers with a bit of TNA. You are what you don't wear, but tying yourself worth with string bikini isn't just a TNA. It can last a lifetime. Thanks to me. Dude, what the fuck? Let her wear the bikini. She looks hot as fuck. Where's this picture? I was like, I know you're going to want to see it. Just Google Demi more bikini selfie. Okay. Oh, the substance. It is the point for Chelsea. Yes, because we were talking about the tabloids discussing Demi more's body. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. My memory is not too crazy. I remember sitting here saying that. All right. That would have freaked me out though if it was an earlier episode. Or like if I had said it. Well, that would just prove how, you know how like memory just you can. It's malleable. It's totally. Yeah. I know I remember saying it in this place, but then like you see video evidence. I just invented it. Yeah. All right. Next quote. Fucking John Kramer polls, dude. Me. It's about Jill Tuck. Yeah. It's gotta be. I'll say so for. Okay. You both said it at the same time. Yeah. I'm going to say saw three. I'm going to say saw three because it's the it's when it says dream and quick little gliss and Gressel's like, who's this beautiful woman? And we're like, you're you'll find out. That's my guess. It's saw four. Fuck man. Why would we reveal that that dream lady? I don't know. I just thought it was like kind of a trick question almost. Gressel seems to imply that it was not me saying it though. No, it was. Oh, yeah. Okay. It was you're still both 100% correct on who is saying what we know how we we know how we speak. You know your voices part of the backstory we get a large part of it takes place at Jill Tuck who is jigsaw's ex. Jigsaw's high ex way. Yeah. Yeah. That's your Russell. Yeah. But pictures from the premiere of this. No. And she's so hot. It's ridiculous. Oh. They made her dowdy for this movie and she looks. But that's what I'm saying is she's hot and this. But then you look at the red carpet picture and it's like, oh my goodness. Oh, I'm fucking John Cramer. Pulse dude. He does. You were talking about Jill. Yes. I just couldn't remember. Maybe he just assumed in saw three. Like is that like his wife or something? Okay. And you were like, yeah, dude, John Cramer pulls. I just thought it was a trick question. You had to make a play. I know. You know, you're behind. It's fine. All right. Next one is we're millennials. It happens. That could be anything. That could be either one of us. It could be any episode. Yeah. What the. It could be earlier this episode. We're millennials. I'll just say, I mean, the first thing that comes to mind. I'll say me. Why 2k? Fuck. That's probably it. And now his laugh. I feel like I mean, I do think it's you. Okay. I'm going to say fear.com. Sure. Just cause it's internet. You are both wrong on both counts. Chelsea said it. We're millennials. It happens. Probably just like that. So I say, I say it with love because there are plenty of childhood things I'm obsessed with. I have a Pokemon plush that sleeps in our bed. The top shelves of our closeters all plushes. Yeah. Oh yeah. There's so many stuffed animals. Yeah. Like, you know, we're millennials. It happens. But you think of like the things in this move. It's there's so many. There's so much imagery of cartoons and toys. Skidamari. Yes. Oh, Skidamari. In this house. Bonus point for Chelsea. Yeah, buddy. We did it. Oh, by the way, random interjection for all the people who whenever we post about Molly, say they miss Lucy and wonder where she is. She's fine. She's doing great. Yeah. She called in Ada Bug the other day. Dude. Yeah. She hunted and killed a bug. I was so proud of her. Yeah. She's mostly just awake at night now and just runs around. Yeah. Crazy zoomies. We just still can't get Molly to chill out when Lucy wants to come in this room because Molly just acts like a little guard dog, but then they have their zones where they're fine and they ignore each other. It's so weird. They have little territories in our house. But she's doing great. Oh yeah. I just took her to the vet for her annual checkup and the vet said she was very muscular for her age and has very soft fur and that she's very, very healthy. Did not say she's overweight. I'm shocked that she's not overweight. So for all the people who I show pictures of her too and they're like, oh, that's a chonker. I think it's just like when cats age, especially girl cats, their bellies just start to kind of sag. And I think that's what's going on. She's got her little primordial pouch. Yeah. All right. The next quote. LMFAO had a grip on this country. Chelsea Y2K. Oh, I was also going to say Y2K. I think it's James. It is Chelsea. Fuck. Okay. Here comes the clip. We were lucky to be in college late 2000s or like 2010s because it was party music. LMFAO had a grip on this country. Exactly. And it was like before everyone had smartphones and were constantly on apps and stuff. And so even though you had the means of communication, you were still mostly face to face talking. And also now I feel like public life. And this maybe contributes to the feeling of lack of third spaces. But if there are third space and by third spaces, I mean places where you can gather. Those are homework. Right. So like the mall, the library. Church. Yeah. Coffee shop. Bowling alleys. You know, coffee shop maybe not because that's like you got to pay money. I mean a lot of third space you have to. Sure. That's true. But that is a problem is that so many of them. Yeah. There's expectation of you have to pay to be there. But now even if there are these places to hang out, there's always the fear someone's going to film me and put it online and be like, look how cringe, you know. Yeah. And I feel like there's this everyone's just so fucking self conscious now because we're all terrified of people putting us online and making fun of us. Yeah. That's why I just do it myself. Yeah, we'll provide that. We will just provide that. We'll take that power away. We'll do it ourselves. Um, but yeah, I don't know how we got a little off topic there, but. I just like how real this movie is, you know, and Josh is such a well written character. Yeah. With, uh, cause like he even says later when he's doing like his villain monologue about how like he deserves more and like companion. Oh. I forgot his name is Josh in that. All right. So two points for James. Two points for James. How do you remember character names like fucking Josh? It was when it was like his, uh, villain monologue at the end saying he deserves more. Okay. That was when I was like, oh, that's Jack Quaid and companion. Something's following us. They're Christopher. They're a short way to attack a danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. A danger. Two bodies. It's got to be me cheekily referencing myself. Dude, man, this game sucks. Wow. It's so hard. I'm going to say me toxic Avenger. Um, I'm going to go way back and say it. James in the hunt. It is James. Great. But both of you got the episode wrong. Okay. is the idea of the success quote unquote of a battle is measured by body count. Like that's when we start counting bodies versus like other quantifications of success. It's fucked up. Yeah, that's real fucked up to count bodies. Yeah, so just to add to the kind of unease of this film that a living dead also just totally upends basic mainstream cinematic norms. Okay, so we're talking about neither living dead. So I'm gonna say zombies in American life or whatever. Yes, correct. It's zombies in American nightmares. Oh, it's just straight up the zombies episode. Oh my God. At first I thought you were saying the title of a movie like zombies in American life. And I was like, I have no memory of this. What movie is that? That was episode 21. Yep. Yeah, back in the old office. Oh, my old bedroom. Oh yeah. Like before we moved out to the kill count set. Jesus. All right, the next quote is, who's the number one candy baby? Great, we're quoting that succession video. Who's the number one candy baby? I feel like Chelsea. I said that. But that's recent. That feels recent. So we're probably talking about, I'm gonna say Chelsea the menu. Because it's definitely like characters vying for the affection of another person, probably a father or a patriarchal figure. That's why I'm gonna say the menu, even though I'm starting to not think that's right. I'm just gonna guess it again. It's the new house of wax. You're both wrong on both counts. Wow, I said it? No. Oh. Gressel said it. Oh, Gressel said it. Gressel's the number one candy baby. Here comes the clip to try to guess the episode. This time we have them like at each other's throats and we see that combative nature of who's daddy's favorite. I was literally like, they both wanna be daddy's favorite. Yes. Who's the number one candy baby? Yes, number one. And you really get a sense for how like Amanda thinks Hoffman is just like the brute force. Yes. The muscle, you know. And... Hoffman thinks she's nuts. That she's fucking crazy. They're both right. They're both wrong. Saw six. It's saw six? Saw six. Oh, I think Amanda does sit a few movies out and then she has the flashback in six, I guess, where Hoffman has the guy in the wheelbarrow and dumps him out. Yes. That's a human body. So I was gonna say like, wait, does she really even factor in six? In six, I think she's in that flashback. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's pushing him in the wheelchair That's a human being. That's a human being. It's a human being, that's right. You must respect them before we put them in a bear trap. There was a post on the sauce I read at the other day about how everyone finds that line like so cute. And I'm like, yeah, John's so adorable. No, I thought it was about killing is distasteful. To me. To me. To me. If I'm president, we're building a trash elevator. Chelsea. A trash elevator. A trash elevator. Elevator. Yeah, cause you just put all the trash in the space. I like how so many people have thought of this idea and like there's so many reasons it doesn't work, but deep down inside, we all still secretly think trash elevator would still work. I think Chelsea, the platform. Oh, the platform's a good guess. I mean, that's like, It's got an elevator. There's a movie about an elevator. Yeah. I'm gonna say. I mean, the hard part is, might have nothing to do with the movie. I know, it could just be a weird ass. We were talking about Ronald Reagan babies. Yeah. And that was in, I guess that was Tange. I'm just gonna just wild guess because there's like a plague and rats and like dead bodies, Nosferatu. All right, you both got Chelsea. Yes. Neither of you got the episode. Here is the trend here. Because it's hard. Also, I just want to note, Braveloat Toaster had a sequel where they went to the moon. Shut the fuck up. I never saw it. How'd they go to the moon? I don't know. I never saw it. Or was it Mars? They went into outer space. Either way, that's not the issue. It's the fact that they went to, oh, Mars. Cause there are some degrees of travel issues between the moon and Mars, Chelsea. Oh, Mars. Oh, okay. That makes more sense. Like no, the fact that they somehow get rocketed into space. Maybe it's a future where we build that trash elevator. Oh. Which I hope happens. It's never gonna happen. But if I'm president, we're building a trash elevator. Next is Erna Scared Stupid. Childhood Fears. Oh, motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. You just said it before I could say it. Childhood Fears is correct. Episode what? Fuck it in like 12? That's a really old one. 49. Oh, okay. 49. You're just faster at saying it than me. Everybody needs a buzz on for below. Everybody needs a buzz on. A lot of people didn't know that's an actual song. Chelsea didn't know it was an actual song. Yeah, I somehow had never heard that song before. She thought it was just a bit from Nirvana the band. The movie. No, Nirvana the band show. And that's on the movie, that's on the show. Yes. He's doing a new movie I just saw. With Finn Wolfhaw. Yes. Oh, that's exciting. I did see that. Very good for Finn. I bet he's super pumped. He loves comedians. The next quote. We'll talk to kids. We'll be the uncool adults. That sounds like, I could just hear you saying like, we'll talk to kids. I could just hear you saying it. I think it's James. Uncool adults. Yeah, what uncool adults? It's gotta be something where there are children who don't wanna listen to the adults in the movie. But like they need to, like maybe the adults are afraid of talking to the kids cause they're afraid of seeming uncool. And I'm like, we'll do it. Oh. You know what? I'm gonna throw this out there. Infested. That has some themes of youths and. Like being kind of overlooked by the adults in their lives. Yeah. I'm gonna say. Also, how was that two years ago too? What the fuck? I know. Time's scary. It really is. I'll say Psycho Gorman. It was James. It was not either of those episodes. Okay, here it comes. It never is. So maybe he has talked all about how he got it made. But I would love to talk to him personally about it. I saw a Twitter reply to when I mentioned we were doing the back room, someone was like, oh, they should interview Kane. They probably won't though. And I was like, I'm sorry. We would loved it. Are you kidding me? I think maybe because he's young. And I was like, no. Like I really. We're gonna do the Chucky kids. Yeah, for sure. We'll talk to kids. We'll be the uncool adults. Did you get to ask those questions? We have asked him some questions. We've asked him some questions. We had a quick 15 minutes with him and Chewetel and Renata. I want to have more of like a one-on-one interview with just him, just to get into the way more like crunchy stuff of how he was making those original shorts. Like how we did with Curry. It'd be great to have Kane here. Yeah, like just getting started, learning Blender. Like how the fuck? Speaking of which, we still gotta try and get Markiplier on here. Yeah. Talk about Iron Long, especially since he's doing an independent distribution of it on streaming platforms and launching his own way of, cause what movies need to do something in order to be sold on Amazon and or like any VOD service. And he is going to provide a way for independent films to be able to do that and be available for VOD. Oh no, that's what I want to talk to him about because it's a cool thing. That's more than just getting his own movie out. This feels relevant to our conversation about New Hollywood with Curry. I know the fact that we can just pop off three names here that are like doing big shit. Just outside the studio system. I mean, now, well, Curry and Kane, they come from outside the studio. Well, yeah, yeah. But I mean, they started making their own stuff. Yes. Outside, like yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. This week's episode is sponsored by Rocket Money. So I eat out a lot. It's a bad habit of mine and I'm trying to be better about it. It's not only not the healthiest but the amount it costs adds up so fast and it's easy to lose track of how much you're actually spending. And that's where this week's sponsor comes in. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. Rocket Money can track subscriptions and has the ability to cancel unwanted ones within the app with a few taps. Saving users over $880 million in canceled subscriptions. 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Find out why Nutraful is the best selling hair growth supplement brand at Nutraful.com spelled N-U-T-R-A-F-O-L.com promo code deadmeat. That's Nutraful.com promo code deadmeat. Next quote. Frank Inferter is very like, he wants just zero body fat. How ripped do you think art the clown is? Okay, it's a survivor. James and it's a survivor. It's horror survivor two. I will, I guess I'll guess another one in case she's wrong. It's me, the horror survivor three. No, Chelsea said it. Really? But it is horror survivor two. Yay! Point for Chelsea. And here comes the clip. I think Frank Inferter's gonna be very excited by Vince Vaughn being here. Yeah? I mean Vince Vaughn is a very tall. He's a big brawny man. Yeah. But I don't know about how many muscles he has showing. Mm, yeah, that's right. Frank Inferter is very like, he wants just zero percent body fat. Yeah. How ripped do you think art the clown is? So. I don't know, where's that baggy ass going costume? I know, it's like, we don't know what's going on over there. God, art's so fucking unsettling. He is. I figured this had to be an early episode of horror survivor. It would have had to be before terrifying two, because in terrify or two, art the clown gets butt naked. I feel like we probably, right after that clip, talked about it. Really? I think so. Because I just feel like we wouldn't have questioned it. Yeah. You get to see him naked in that movie. This was from three years ago, if that helps. I'll see, yeah, it definitely would have been out by then. The next quote. I hope David never watches this episode. I don't know where we're just like, I don't know, how would it? The next quote is, oh, it's not serious. Can we joke about shingles then? Shingles? Oh, it's not serious. Can we joke about shingles then? Okay. Oh God. So we looked up shingles to see how serious it was. Because it's like a painful thing. It is, yeah, it's, it's. But you'll be fine, right? It just sucks. Or were we talking about something else that we looked up and found out? Oh, we can't, we shouldn't joke about it. But what's like a disease that sounds funny that we can still joke about? Do you think that was what was going on? Trying to remember what brought us to want to joke about shingles besides just the fact that our friend had it once and called it shingies. Shingies, that's just what we call it now. Shingies. I also think of the time, do you remember when David Letterman had shingles? And that was like. I don't remember. Part of his. That was part of, that was like part of the Letterman show for so long. It was just like this running. That's like how I learned what shingles was. Whenever I think of shingles, I think of grayscale from Game of Thrones. Yeah, right. Which I think is a lot worse. I think it's a lot worse. I think that's a lot worse. Probably a bit worse. That's closer to like leprosy. Yeah. But it also affects your skin and turns you into like statue guys, right? Yes. Yeah. Didn't Jorah get it? Yes, I believe so. Did he ever recover? Oh, in the show? In the show, he ripped it off, didn't he? Oh yeah, he got, yes. He was treated by Sam, right? And then very painful procedure of like crying off all the grayscale. That sucks. Ew, fuck. If there was YouTube in Westeros, there'd be like Dr. Pimple Popper would be like Dr. Grayscale Peasers. Oh my God. Oh, Dr. Grayscale Peeler, no. No. Oh. Would it be monetized though? I don't think it could be. Yeah, I don't know. It's pretty gruesome. Ugh. Okay. Shingle. I feel like maybe I said it. I just feel like this is a tangent. For sure. In some other shit. So I just don't, I don't have like an anchor to tie this to, you know? I feel like maybe it has something to do with like a skin disease or some kind of like disease that got us onto the topic of shoes. Like what's a gross skin? Okay, you said it's, that you said it, right? Yeah. I'm gonna say I said it in ravenous. Okay. I am going to say, I don't know. I'll guess Pearl, cause they are all dealing with like Spanish flu in that movie and then maybe we were talking about other diseases. That's fine. I don't know. It was James. I feel like, I feel like I can imagine myself saying it and very just throwing it away type way. I'm just like, but neither of you got the episode here. So she apparently told Habitat for Humanity that Lucille got shingles. Shingles. Shingies. We just got shingies. How serious is the shingles? No, it's pretty. I mean, cause we were just, I don't know if you're going to die from shingles, but it hurts. We just had a friend who had shingles. No names. We just had a friend who had shingles, aka shingies. Shingies, we called them shingies. But he called himself shingies. So once he said that, I was like, oh, it's not serious. Is that, can we joke about shingles? I think it's one where, I mean, I guess like any disease you can get, if you get it when you're older, it can be scary. Well, like older, older? Yeah. Or like us older. No, no, no, like if you're an old person, you need to get shingles. Oh, okay. It's weird. The only reference point I have for shingles, this is how much of a nerd I was growing up was, I remember when David Letterman had shingles, cause it was the whole thing. No original thoughts. There's no original thoughts in my head. Truth or dare. Yes, it's truth again. Again, that's so unfair. That's tricksy. Yeah, that's right, because she... She's gonna do Habitat for Humanity, but her friend is like, I told them you have shingles. Yes, that's right. And then she's like, oh, shingles, how clever, cause we're building houses. Oh, so it wasn't even tangential. No, it was directly relevant to the plot. Cause it's wordplay. Completely germane. I was gonna guess an early episode just from the way I sounded, like my voice in that clip, I was like, I feel like that's earlier on. And I don't know how I can describe to you. I can describe how earlier kill counts are different, but podcasts more like feel type thing. Oh my God, that's so funny though. That is very funny. The fucking David Letter is, oh man. That's what it, that's what's like having a podcast. Yeah, yep. You're more like an old person than you thought. You're just telling the same stories. Yeah. The next quote is, that's why I think in a past life, I was like some feudal king who just made all his court play shitty parlor games with him to amuse him. That's me, that's me, that's me. Absolutely. 100,000. Because that's 100% who I was in a past life. But what would the episode be? Green Knight. I, I'm gonna guess bodies, bodies, bodies because they're playing like a kind of, you know, they're playing a game in that. It is basically a parlor game. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I see. You know, they don't need any tech or anything. It's very, it is kind of old school. Yeah, yeah, okay. It is Chelsea. Yep. Obviously. So, here if you got the episode, here it comes. Of course. Even with Irmak, you'd get it first. Oh my God, of course. I fucking love this game. Chelsea's too good at name games in general. My friends. That's why I think in a past life, I was like some feudal king who just made all his like court play shitty parlor games with him to amuse him. Okay, so it's who am I. It is who am I when we were dressed as moral combat. Oh. Ah, good times. Oh my God, my hair in this episode. Is it long? Yeah, it's long and poofy and I'm wearing the Raiden hat. Dude, I'm technically wearing a Raiden shirt right now. What? It's him and each of you the killer. Oh, oh, factory. Yeah. Oh, good old moral combat. That movie was fun as fuck. Moral combat too. A lot of fun. And that's the podcast on moral combat too. Yeah, it was great. We loved it, no notes. 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That really cuts them down at least in half. I mean, maybe I'll say X. I mean, that's a very safe, like that would have been, that was my first instinct. Uh-huh. Maybe I'm like, you know I love my naked old ladies, but this one, I'm a cup of tea, a little crazy. I mean, I'm just gonna say it's one of the super duper recent ones. I think it's the tropes episode. Oh, good guess. No. No. Russell's just bug's-bunnyed us. No. No. Nope. I did like before she was a monster when she was just in the background blurry. And she like runs off all weird. She's creeping around and she's just like naked for a second. Yeah. You know I love my naked old ladies. Naked old ladies and whores, always fun. I love it, always. And it's funny because I was actually just reading someone who was like, I'm kind of over the like naked women are scary thing. And I'm like, that's a valid take on that. But then also- Like older naked women is terrifying. Ooh, how horrifying. Yeah. No, I mean, dude, it's not scary in fucking the visit. I'll tell you that. Yeah. No, it's nice. Yeah. But I so see that viewpoint, but at the same time I always kind of love the chaos of like a naked old lady. It's just always fun for me personally. Bev during that process breaks open a floorboard, gets that. Oh, it's it part two. Yes, it is. It part two. That was six years ago. I was about to say- We're over naked old ladies and whores. I was about to say like this can of been that recent then. The way we're talking about it is less of a like. Oh, yeah. It's been done a million times. It still felt a little novel. We have cited the chapter two one before when we bring up the trope. Barbarian could have been a potential. Yeah, that would have been before. All right, the next quote. He's our stinky friend, our smelly son of a bitch, nasty stinky fuck, gross, round man. James the mummy. Yes, correct. Ha ha. Warden Gad Hussai. It could have been that Who Am I episode where I gave you here. Yes, right. Yes. That's like the hardest one I've ever done anything. All right, here it is in context. So he's going to be hung by the warden Gad Hassen. I don't know if they ever fucking say that guy's name in the movie. I don't think they call him our smelly friend. Yeah, he's our stinky friend, our smelly son of a bitch, nasty, yeah, oh that fucking disgusting. Gross, round man. Yeah. That's how they refer to him that whole movie. Every time he's on screen, they're like, ah, God, shit. Our smelly friend. You think they're gonna bring him back for the mummy for? People really want them to bring Benny back. Oh. How? I guess shenanigans, I guess magic. I mean shenanigans, we technically not see him die. We don't technically, we hear the scarabs, we hear him scream. It's very heavily implied on how he would get out of that situation, but there's always mummy magic. I mean. I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't put it past them to figure out a way to bring him back. And Benny's like one of the all time great movie scumbags. Yeah. He is the weasel of weasels. We don't have that inside scoop yet. Oh, sorry. We've tried. Yeah. All right, this next one. There wasn't one where the yellow M&M did blackface. That's me. Okay, that was recent ish. It was. Because I thought that got cut. Oh no, I left that. Okay. Yeah, that was definitely me in a recent episode. What the fuck? And I feel like it was early on in the episode too. Like first five minutes. There wasn't one where the what on earth? Oh, no, I got it. I got it. Oh, here I'll be. I'm Jamie Kennedy in Scream 2. I got it. Okay. Halloween trivia marketing fails. Yeah. That is correct. Yes. But yeah, the rest of the class goes, oh, yeah. I said aliens. That does make the most sense. Researcher Bell and I were having a hard time finding enough to fill a whole episode of things that were interesting and funny enough. There wasn't one where like the yellow M&M did blackface. And it was disastrous Halloween. I don't think the yellow M&M, I don't think the J.K. Simmons M&M has ever done blackface to my knowledge. The yellow one's the good one. Is this a fun surprise? The yellow one's the good one. What I would expect it from. I left it in because when you look up like terrible marketing ideas, you'd be shocked how many of them are just like, oops, we did blackface. Billy Crystal and Oscars. I mean, that was on purpose. That was like, I am doing blackface. A lot of them are like. Like 2011, 2012. A lot of these marketing fuckups are like, oh, all white people came up with this ad and no one realized it looks weird. Oh, OK. The next one. It's probably just Joseph Smith wants to get his dick wet with his friends' wives. What the fuck? Oh, me and Heretic. Me and Heretic. I use dick wet all the time. Chelsea is correct. It was her in Heretic. Chelsea with the dick wet in Heretic. They needed lots of babies. So they made it a principle to allow polygamy so that they could have more babies. That's what they're taught. But it's probably just Joseph Smith wants to get his dick wet with his friends' wives. So the modern church now forbids it because it's a bit of a PR problem. And they don't do that anymore. And also a legal problem, probably. I think that was more Brigham Young's thing, actually. Oh, OK. Maybe. Addendum. Addendum. Impossible. Addendum with a star. I think Brigham Young was more of the polygamist of the two guys. Oh, OK. I just think Mormon history is super weird and interesting. Place they're getting dirty sodas. It's on our talk about menu. Maybe it's gone because they do that. But I remember seeing a soda with cream. I mean, we tried it when we were in Utah. It honestly tasted pretty fucking good. You ever have one, Grussel? No. Dirty soda? Uh-uh. Friday. What is a dirty soda? It's what. So there's all these soda shops in Utah. Sure. Because they don't drink coffee. They can't drink coffee, but they can drink caffeine. It's not a caffeine thing. It's not a caffeine thing. It's a specific loophole. Again, it's all loopholes. It's loopholes on loopholes. There's a specific loophole where, apparently, in the Book of Mormon, it's specifically coffee and tea, I think, that were verboten. And then, so OK, we can get around that by, like, pop is fine. It's got caffeine. So that's how we get our caffeine fix. And it's a ton of fucking sugar. So that adds to it, too. And so there's all these soda shops everywhere, and there's a coffee shops. And they sell dirty soda, which is, like, it's popped with creamer in it. Creamer, and then, like, spices and flavorings and stuff. Oh, I could get down with that. Cream, not creamer, but cream. No, but the creamer's good, though. We tried it when we were in Utah for that film festival. We were like. Swig, is that the name of the film? Yeah, we went to Swig. And it tasted pretty fucking good. No, I believe it. Terrible for you, though. Oh, yeah. Holy fuck. That's a sometimes food. Dirty little secret is Dr. Pepper, coconut, pineapple, vanilla cream. I don't know about that one. Yeah, I don't know about that one. The coconuts throw them out. The acid in that sounds like I just lost an amul on my teeth with you reading that. Yeah, that's like I'm going to sleep sitting straight up tonight. Yeah, just peachy is. Coke, zero, sugar, pineapple, peach puree, fresh lime. Oh, that sounds good. And possibly there's more, but it won't mode. Yeah, it's not all, like, creamer drink. Yeah, like, and the summer. Mountain Dew, pomegranate, grapefruit, fresh lime. Oh, yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, so it's just like I got like a fruity mix when I sure I got like a doctor. Yeah, he got like the classic dirty root beer, butterscotch, vanilla cream, buttery beer. Oh, fuck. Good. That does sound good. I know. Yeah, sometimes people make dolls. Sometimes and dead silence. OK, Chelsea in. I could just see you saying that about Mary Shaw. Like, listen, sometimes people make dolls. Sometimes people make dolls. I mean, I do think it's me. But I'm going to say you just in case I can grab a. And you know what? I'll say Chelsea. Sausage. Chelsea gets a point for James. OK. But neither of you get the episode. Here it is. Yeah, if you like vibes. Yeah, you should have a good time. If you're if you're, you know, if you get hung up on like, well, why is this thing happening? And like, logically, this is why is they did this. Then I did see a comment of being like, why does he make dolls? How would he know how to do that? And I'm like, people make dolls. Sometimes people make dolls. Sometimes people make dolls. Also, why wouldn't that guy make dolls? Long way. Oh, it's long way. Sometimes people make dolls. Man, sometimes people put Satan in those dolls in a metal sphere in their heads. It happens sometimes. Damn, my brain was going in a direction of, oh, it's a character who's like been kept confined and they wouldn't even know what adult is. How do they know what to know? It's long legs. See, you didn't see long legs, did you, Gressel? I did not know. OK. That's the Nick Cage one. Yeah. Yeah. And Mike Monroe, they're making another one. Oh, I did see that in the long legs universe. But with Nick Cage as long legs, but it's going to Paramount instead of neon. Apparently the budget was more than neon wanted to do for it. So they passed on it and it's going to Paramount instead. And Osgood Perkins is writing and directing it. Dude, you see that Oz, like, mentored Kane during the back rooms. I did see that article. You would have never we talked to him at the after party and he was very like. Because we went and saw the back rooms and it's got a ton of producers and his name comes up in the opening press. We're like, oh, fuck. Yes. So we ran into him and we're like, oh, we didn't even know you were working on this. We really liked it. And he was like, oh, my name's on it. Like he was very like, yeah, you know, very deffered, different, differential, differential. And so then I saw that article and yeah, he was. I mean, that's that's what could more could you ask for in a mentor? He's really giving Kane his flowers and letting him have his moment. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. Yeah, that rules. That's awesome. I like like his movies or not. I love that Oz just goes all out in them. And makes them his own thing and makes them so different from each other. That's what's fucking cool. Is that like how I don't think you could get more different between long legs and the monkey. I got to finally tell him that I love keeper. Up. Oh, he was so happy. He was so happy. He said that he often hears it from baristas and grocers. Yes, just like ran to the working class. Yes. OK. I must clap those cheeks. I must wait. I feel like it's me. I must clap. I feel like I say it like that. Do you know what I mean? I do know what you mean. I think I know what it is. But because you're like, I don't want to steal it from you. Shit. Oh, no. I feel like it's. Oh, it's no. Sprats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK, I will give that to Chelsea because you got like you immediately did the voice. Yeah. I was like, oh, you're doing the nose for. I was literally like I felt like a spirit possessed me because I didn't even know what the fuck I was doing at first. But I was like, I know it sounds like this. Yeah, this the or the spirit of war. Yeah, I was possessed by the spirit for real. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. What? Oh, my gosh. Dude, James, no, that's actually so scary. Wait, tell you got to tell me. I tell them literally yesterday, I opened my live stream talking about how I'm never afraid of things in this house, but this fucking Orlock figure I have keeps like jumping off the shelf and just is like in places it shouldn't be. And every time I walk in, he's on the floor in a different spot. Yeah. So if you know me, you know that I'm a super skeptic. I don't believe in anything supernatural. I don't believe in ghosts. I'll believe in spirits or hauntings or anything like that. Because a lot of people will see our room. Our rooms in this house, see the Kill Count Room, the podcast room, see all the spooky stuff I got on display and be like, how do you sleep in this place? And it doesn't bother me at all. I walk in these rooms in the dark. It'll be three in the morning, four in the morning just to grab something. I won't turn on lights. I got mannequins. I got Chuckies. I got whatever. It's fine. It's fine. I'm a little creeped out. This motherfucker. He's freaking me out, dude. I don't like it. It's it keeps moving. Not like around the room or anything, but just it keeps winding up on the floor of the Kill Count Room in different spots, too. And clearly it's just falling, you know, but it's got a little blue tiki-tak on his feet. Because it has a base that I set him in. And the other day I was looking at the set and I noticed that his base was there, but he wasn't. And he has fallen before, so I didn't think too much of it. But, you know, I was looking around on the floor. I didn't see him anywhere. I even looked in the cubbies. Maybe he fell and bounced. And I just didn't see him anywhere. And this was maybe like three or four days ago. And so I was just like, whatever, I'll find him when I find him. And then the next day, or even maybe later that night, I looked and he was on the floor, like in my mark, like on my mark, where I stand for the Kill Count video. So it's a place I clearly looked. It was there's only so much floor space in here, but he wasn't there before, then he was there now. And then like since then, every time I walk in, he's, I will put him back there, but he's on the floor again in a different spot. And like far from the shelf, sometimes close, but usually kind of further as though, I don't know, man. And this morning, I, and last night, I literally said something aloud to him. I walked in and he was on the floor and I was like, what's up with you, man? You got something going on? And I put him back on the thing. And then this morning, just 10 minutes ago, I walked in and he was on the floor again, right on my mark too, like on the tape mark. And you know, Chelsea wouldn't do that. Chelsea wouldn't do that because we don't, we don't prank each other like that. And nobody else has been here consistently enough to do this every day. So I'm just, I'm a little, when I walked in and saw him this morning, I was like, well, fucking nose for eye, dude. Freaking me out. I mean, the most what let's the most reasonable explanation is, you know, obviously he needs some assistance sticking to the float, the, the base of his figurine. And like someone said, he must be weighted weird because I believe this is a 3d printed thing. So it just must be something up here, top heavy that makes him fall. And I guess due to his weight, he bounces in a way. The, the one where like I didn't see him and then he was there. That's weird to me, but maybe I was just tired and didn't notice. I don't know. Nothing ever scares me in like a supernatural way. This is the first time in like a very long time where I'm like, the fuck. And then we got this fucker. I forgot the big me just saying like, oh, I'm possessed by it. And I didn't even like make that connection until you just said that, dude, that's freaky. What's just the hand reaching over the house? Wow. Or la cons this house, I guess both versions because the figurine's the old one. And then we got fucking Skarsgard over here. I'm doomed. Do me too. She dies in both versions. We're both. That's true. That's true. All right, I'll play. You must bounce on it. Crazy style. You must bounce on it. Crazy style. I can't stop. I must clap those cheeks. It's so great. Here's the next one. Uh, but I'm sure they were putting toes and buttholes back then. What the fuck? It could be either back then. Yeah, we didn't cover the Northman. No. We're like, what's a movie where like someone doesn't want to have sex technically. But you know, toe and a butthole doesn't count. It doesn't count. That's a loophole. There you go, Mormons. Yeah, it doesn't happen in heretics. So it's not that. It's not heretic. And again, I don't know who said it. That could be either. That could that's yeah, that's a toss up. Yeah, that could be either of us. I'll say me. I'm just looking like what movies that we covered that are kind of like take place in the past. Yeah. Okay, you know what? I'm going to guess Rappanus this time. I just feel like that's something those guys would do. Who said it? Can you read it again? I'm sure they were putting toes and buttholes back then. I feel like that's James. I feel like the phrasing of it is me and I will go with oh, you know what? How about this last voyage of the Demeter? I that I was also maybe going to guess that a little bit more nose for a to action. It was James, but neither of you got the episode correct. Okay, let's hear it. You think the first depiction of porn and movies would just be a guy and a gal banging each other in a bed. No, one thing had layers to one of the amazing things about studying stuff like that is you realize that humans have been fucking freaky for like always every generation thinks that they're the ones who invented getting real weird with it. But that's not true at all. No. Yeah, I'm sure they were putting toes and buttholes back then. You know it, dude. No hesitation. It's Pearl. It is Pearl. Yeah. Last one. I think he shows her like the bed in Pearl, right? Yeah. Superman does. Superman. Yes. Oh, is it really? Corning sweat? Yeah. Yeah, he's great. We were like we were we knew he'd be great long before that movie came out. Yeah, when he outcast it was such a weird like it was a parasocial thing of like, yeah, we know we've never met him before, but you know. But we know him from here. That's our guy. One more. Last one. Last one. Okay. I just don't think Stephanie Meyer is the type. I don't know. But then again, she likes Muse. That's definitely me. Yeah. Because why would James know that? Yeah. But then again, she likes Muse. Oh, no. Lost boys. Chelsea lost boys. Because sparkly vampires and we're talking about like, she have watched it. And I think you're like, I don't think she's the type to have watched the lost boys maybe. I mean, is he right? He is right. Okay. But they destroy Alex winter and get covered in his glittery blood. Glitter blood. They run outside. They're glittering and that's got to be where Twilight gets it from. I have no idea. I don't know if I just like, would she have seen? What? Nothing about Twilight suggests that she's seen anything with the vampires. That's the thing is I don't think because she is like super Mormon. I don't know if she has ever seen lost boys ever in her life. I think it could just genuinely be a coincidence. No. I just don't think Stephanie Meyer is the type. I don't know. Steph. But then again, she likes Muse. I don't, I don't know. It is so funny to think about the glitter and lost boys and how much of a shit that everyone threw about glittery vampires and Twilight. And it's like, you know, it's basically been done before. And like somehow like we don't have a problem with that. Also, how frequently does Mormonism come up on this podcast? A lot. I guess so. I just think it's real interesting. I think it's kind of like. I just think they're neat. I just think they're neat. And oh, that was during our interview yesterday with Andy Richter. We ended up talking about Catholicism and how it's like the best religion to like base horror stuff off of because it's fucking freaky as shit. And I think Mormonism is also up there because it's so weird and there's so many restrictions and so many rules and the idea of the afterlife is very bizarre. And yeah. So I think maybe that's why I'm kind of drawn to it in the same way that like Catholic stuff is interesting is like it's just it just gets real weird. What's the final score? It ended up being closer than it started. Yeah. Chelsea made a run to close the gap. But the final score is Chelsea nine, James 15. Finally. Usually you beat me in these games. I just don't understand how I'm so bad at this when I edit the podcast. I've watched them more times than you. So much more information overload. Maybe just too much. Honestly, it could be because there's just so much of this show. Well, thank you, Bella, for putting that together. Thank you, Ben, for helping with that. Oh my God. You said that because the interview with Curry is coming out next week, that we're going to have another episode the week after that. I think so. And will that be obsession us talking about the movie? Because I know that we want to cover that movie. Should that just be our obsession? Are you all OK with the one two punch of Curry Barker interview and then obsession review? Yeah, I think that could work because we get into some of the thematic stuff with Curry, but it's more of like a broad interview. Yeah, I want to talk about that movie and the story. Yes, I do want to talk about the movie and really dig into it because it's one of those ones where I'm trying to think of other horror movies. It's like the substance or nope. Or I'm trying to think of other podcast episodes where I've seen the movie and been like, well, that episode's going to be two or three hours long because there's so much I want to say about it. It's one of those. I just really love it. So until next time, James and I will see you with Curry Barker as our special guest. Yeah, yeah. He's not married to us though. He's not married to us though. So yeah, we will see you next time. I'm Chelsea. I'm James. And that's Gressel. And this has been The Dead Me Podcast.