Bonus Episode: What Music Do Serial Killers and the Worst People In The World Listen to?

Double Elvis Hey Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode we're discussing what the worst people in the world listen to from serial killers to war criminals to Jeffrey Epstein and all the way back again. And somehow this is all the subject of this week's episode Towns Van Zans Fault. We're previewing next week's episode on the pretenders, Chrissy Hine. Plus we get into your emails, comments, DMs and as always a whole lot of rosy this is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. Alright, this goes, let's get into it. Towns Van Zans is the subject of this week's Disgraceland Fault episode and we just really set up so right before the bonus here. And as you'll hear, one of the most interesting aspects of Towns Van Zans' life and career, it's the fact that he modeled his life and career after Hank Williams and there are all these eerie coincidences including the day that he died and how he died. So that could be thinking about eerie coincidences between musicians throughout music history and there are some pretty good ones. John Lennon and Dimebag Darrell from Pantera were both shot and killed by deranged fans on the same day. Years apart of course Kurt Cobain and Allison Chainson's Lane Staley both died on the same day as well. Also years apart Lincoln Park had a drummer named Kennedy, the dead Kennedys had a drummer named Lincoln, Ryan Adams and Brian Adams share the same birthdays, that sort of stuff and also a ton more about 9-11 that I'm going to say for another time. But anyways, this thinking led me into a different to me more interesting research wormhole and that's into the subject of the music that certain serial killers were fans of and in some cases the music that they listened to while they were doing the nasty shit that they were up to. Now Ozzy Osbourne, RIP Ozzy recently passed away. Ozzy was a Christian. Ozzy was an overall good guy I believe so he would hate this factoid that I'm going to lay on you but I'm going to mention it anyway. Jeffrey Dahmer loved Black Sabbath. Apparently he would listen to Sabbath while dismembering bodies, the songs Iron Man and Paranoid were two of his favorites which means the Milwaukee Cannibal had pretty basic taste when it comes to Black Sabbath. It's a matter of Jeffrey you never heard yourself some juniors eyes. Check that out. All right. Anyways, beyond Jeffrey Dahmer. I didn't know that about Jeffrey Dahmer until this morning. But we all know about the night stalker Richard Ramirez's obsession with ACDC and about Charles Manson's supposed obsession with the Beatles. What I didn't know about was Aileen Wernos' love for 10,000 maniacs in the song Carnival which she apparently requested to be played at her wake. This for whatever reason is beyond creepy to me. I think I know the reason because it's counterpoint. I never thought of this before but I guess what I'm saying is that if you told me that Natalie Merchant had some deep dark secrets, I guess I wouldn't be surprised. Now, we're all big New York City 1977 scholars here in Disgrace Land. So if you're like me then I assume you connect the son of Sam David Berkowitz to the Talking Heads because of their tune Psycho Killer. But that song was actually released on Talking Heads 77, their excellent record. That was released Psycho Killer on that record about a month after Berkowitz was arrested. So this serial killer wasn't listening to Andy Kessker say this Psycho Killer I should say wasn't listening to any Kessker say but he was listening to Hall and Oates say it ain't so Sammy. I find this to be super creepy as well because Hall and Oates pre-1978 output is dope by which I mean it's pretty sophisticated stuff which means that the son of Sam Psycho Killer that he was had pretty great taste. This is pre-man-eater Hall and Oates. This is rich girl Hall and Oates. This is Sarah Smile Hall and Oates. Honestly, I'm a little shocked by this one because I kind of think of David Berkowitz as like a you know a drooling idiot who is you know afraid of barking dogs but whatever whatever good musical taste I guess. John Wayne Gacy the so-called killer clown listened to Ario Speedwagon I guess I don't know feels like maybe investigators just found a random A-track in his basement and this is how the myth got started but I couldn't find much on Gacy's music taste and honestly I just pictured John Wayne Gacy running around his house and his clown get-up soundtrack to the Benny Hill show theme music. Another weird one is Arthur Shockross. Okay is that how you say the serial killer's name? Arthur Shockross a sick sick individual who murdered two children and 11 adults. Shockross if you look at this guy if you look at a picture of him he's older gray hair kind of portly looks like a dude you wouldn't want to pitch to in your softball beer league kind of normy kind of normal but kind of wrong at the same time. Anyway this dude was a Gigi Allen fan. How how how you gotta look at this guy's photo how how how'd he get into Gigi Allen that's what I want to know. Now according to my admittedly very limited research on this Ted Bundy did not listen to music he only listened to AM Talk Radio which kind of makes all the sense in the world if you think about it. Now he's not a serial killer or a killer as far as we know but it's been in the news lately so I have to hit upon what Jeffrey Epstein was listening to while he was up to his particular brand of no good which depending on who you ask these days means everything from sexually abusing minors to plotting global pandemics to satanic ritual cannibalism aka pizza and grape soda. Anyway apparently Jeffrey Epstein had some pretty on brand taste Rolling Stone magazine dug into his Spotify wrapped from 2016 they dug that out of the Epstein files and I'm coming out by Diana Ross was Epstein's most listened to song of that year do do what you will with that little bit of information. He ain't heavy he's my brother by Marion Williams came in second on Epstein's 2016 wrapped he ain't heavy he's my brother I can just see the Hulu limited you know scripted eight-part Jeffrey Epstein series right now with you know it's Epstein in his his Manhattan townhouse and and he's just sitting back at the end of the day with a nice I don't know what's Epstein drinking a cabernet a nice full-bodied cab and he's got his his feet up on the table on the coffee table with his his slippers and maybe you know he's in like he's got his Pendleton blanket over him and he's he's listening to he ain't heavy he's my brother and he's he's lamenting the fact that Bill Gates won't call him back I don't know I don't know that's how I picture it we'll see anyways his third most played song was hold on I'm coming by Sam and Dave and I'm not even gonna touch that one anyways I find this fascinating now that our wormhole has widened it's worth mentioning of course that Hitler vibed on Wagner Syria's recently deposed brutal dictator in war criminal Bosher al-Assad you know the dude who used chemical weapons on his own people well when they hacked into his iTunes account they found out that Mr. War criminal here dug himself a little I'm sexy and I know it by LMFAO he was also into uh Wright said Fred's I'm too sexy of course of course he was look at look look at this guy this shit makes all the sense in the world when you look at this guy and I guess proves that evil transcends from shitty politics to shitty musical tastes as well anyways Kim Jong I don't know he's into some weird shit I don't know what any of this stuff is and I'm sure as hell I'm not gonna try to pronounce any of it all right I'm gonna keep going here Gaddafi you want some Gaddafi Gaddafi it was always it was Gaddafi when I was growing up and then it became Gaddafi just like it was always Nevada and then it became Nevada I don't know this stuff just happens anyway Libya's dictator Gaddafi had some uh mainstream pop taste okay dude liked Nelly Fertado who performed for Gaddafi for yes uh war criminal that he was for a cool million dollars which I don't know seems kind of light to me a mill is a mill but you know how much is his soul worth I don't know I'd have gone eight figures Nelly eight figures for Gaddafi apparently Gaddafi was also in to see I said Gaddafi there I just can't help it you know anyways Gaddafi was also into Mariah 50 cent Beyonce and now we're getting into the subject of celebrities and musicians who sold their souls and opened their bank accounts to the cash for the cash I should say of some really really bad people massive amounts of cash big big big fees if you want to know what I'm talking about those musicians who took a million dollar fees from brutal dictators to perform at their uh I don't know their parties their spoiled spoiled kids birthday bashes what not yeah Beyonce 50 cent but also Kanye Sting I did this I did a little bit on this about a year year ago I touched on it in the after party but today Zeth and I are going to go in deeper and uh have the names the dollar figures the dictators and the details in the exclusive section of the after party here go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up to become a disgrace and all access member and unlock exclusive content like this along with ad-free content as well finally since we're on the subject of war criminals George W. Bush's favorite song is My Charona by the Knack and now I can forgive W for those weapons of mass destruction and all is right in the world because the knack in My Charona just kind of kicks ass and honestly just can you picture W up in Kenny Bunk right now you know he's he's out he's on the backyard he's roasting some hot dogs and he's got my charona plan I don't know kind of cracks me up okay now we've gone from Towns Vans Ant to the knack and uh we I think it's time we can fully climb out of this this wormhole this rabbit hole and back into reality all right this is what we got cooking this week in disgrace land obviously the Towns Vans Ant episode is there for you to check out right now we've also got a rewind on Serge Gainsburg coming up on Friday in the rewind slot and I should probably mention that Serge Gainsburg I found this in my research this morning as well Serge is a fave of that old that old battle axe that old so-and-so that old muckety muck former German Chancellor Angela Merkel just again picturing these people listening to this music is all the fun Angela Merkel and Serge Gainsburg ah just it's what an image what an image Serge listen if you don't know Serge Gainsburg you should he is one of the most interesting and compelling and influential singers songwriters entertainers of the 20th century without him you would not have Beck you would not have pulp or Rufus Wainwright he was a French sanatra with half the looks and twice the confidence if you can imagine that all right you also wouldn't have Whitney Houston in one of the most insane live television moments of all time but you're gonna have to listen to this Serge Gainsburg episode to find out what I am talking about all right next week our brand new episode on Chrissy Hyde from The Pretenders now you might love The Pretenders or you might just be like yeah The Pretenders are cool but I'm not a super fan and I don't really care that much about their singer but it doesn't matter okay well you don't know if you're anything like me what you don't know what I didn't know before getting into this this production of this episode was just how prevalent Chrissy Hyde was during the formative years of punk rock and not in America she's American in England and I didn't know this I didn't know about these massively consequential bands that Chrissy Hyde was was there in the beginning in the formative years of these bands and was almost in she was almost in these bands it's pretty incredible pretty revelatory and on the true crime front concerning Chrissy Hyde she survived attacks violence predatory skisball music journalists of course it was the 1970s and a whole lot more to become the trailblazing pop star that she became so you're not going to want to miss this episode check it out it's coming up on Tuesday and I can't wait for you to hear it and when you're listening to the Chrissy Hyde episode be thinking about this question who is the most badass female musician in the history 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episode fully intending to write an episode on bobby fuller uh and there were two times that this happened where it was it was scheduled and then it got pushed one time i don't remember the first time why we didn't do it the second time i was going to do a live thing in austin texas and bobby being a texas artist it made sense and then that i had to cancel i had to cancel that event unfortunately it did not happen but bobby is on the schedule and we will get into this you're right it is a mysterious death that is ripe for the picking and i cannot wait to share the bobby fuller story with all you guys it's an insane insane collision of music and true crime appreciate the push scott all right let's check out this voicemail from the 337 on this week's question of the week we got to this question because of towns van zamp because towns van zamp lived his life in a very authentic way and as such sacrificed a lot and ultimately i believe died because of it and there's a lot of artists who have done that who've sacrificed kind of everything for their art and gave it all up and it's a damn shame anyways the question was which artists have done that in the past that you're a fan of etc all right let's check out this voicemail from kody and where's kody calling from the 337 hey this is kody from the 337 i was calling him about your question for this week and i'll be honest like there's a lot it's hard i got a dark horse but a couple of them on something my head i mean i know we talked about bob marley i mean not only did he spend his own money to go to zimbabwe but he also got sick you know from sleeping on the floors and everything and uh during his tour into bobwe he also um he did perform that concert live on his own dime too i think or it was free or something like that but then also yes david bowie i think did he like get diagnosed with like psychosis or something for like how you know dedicated to his craft also like how sets he became his music i think it was like when he made black star you know it was like the last 18 months of his life he spent you know producing that in the i mean knowing that you know with his own health and everything he comes in and you know he said i'm gonna go out and do what i do what i love to do and also i was going to also respond to your question a couple weeks ago about most influential you know bands outside of united states and also great britain kind of a modern take but there's also some somebody i was going to say for this week's question too is is that punk i mean nobody really knew who these guys were for just about all of their career you know that was the whole point of the robot helmet yeah it brought a lot of attention to them and everything but they also had to you know sacrifice all the fame that they would get you know being recognized in the streets being on billboards everything nobody would know what they look like but uh yeah i love the podcast thank you for everything that you do and hopefully i'll be uh be able to hear myself thanks for the call thanks for the answer appreciate it um bob marley yeah yeah i get it i get it i mean he survived if he died on stage you could absolutely make the claim uh but he survived and uh so so that's a tough one for me the bowie won though is very interesting you know there's you can make the case that he nearly lost his mind during those cocaine years those la years they were really tough for him but he didn't lose his mind you know what i mean so the sacrifice and then the black star thing that's really interesting because i don't think any of us really know how much i mean he made that album while he was dying we all know that making an album is a tremendous amount of of work and exertion and who knows how that affected him and impacted his death i i guess we don't know maybe we will at some point that record's incredible by the way just amazing just great stuff thank you for reminding me of it thank you for the for the message i want to hit on daft punk real quick as well yeah i guess they they sacrificed their a portion of their fame for a different kind of fame in that they were anonymous right that's what you're saying and it's a really kind of nuanced take and i dig it i appreciate it all these takes are great thank you 337 617 906 6638 you guys want to leave me a voicemail or send me a text on question of the week or anything really 913 text in in the answer of the question of the week billy holiday for sure and yeah absolutely i was i was reading again about billy holiday this week in reference to the patty smith episode that i'm producing that i'm researching right actually writing right now and um i was just reading about the final moments of her life and it's it's so awful it's so bad it's just you're absolutely right 913 920 writes in with some episode suggestions ministry new world order queens rike operation mine crime compare and contrast to the times they were released compared to today prophetic af 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thursday gonna lock on on today gonna watch big labowski tonight again i saw big labowski in the theaters sears town mall lemon stir mass shout out to the dude from who was the projector at the sears town mall who hit me up a couple weeks ago i'm watching big labowski again tonight willfully joyously because the big labowski is the next film that we're covering in this film should be played loud our all access exclusive video podcast for patreon members where zeth london i doctor zeth london excuse me where we dissect and discuss great musical soundtracks and scores from our favorite movies so pumped to do this big labowski episode think of it think of the great music and i actually i actually know the dude who's responsible for the music in the big laboski so that that's uh that's gonna make for some pretty interesting conversation but think of all the great music in the central role music has not just as as soundtrack but just i mean amy man's in this movie flea is in this movie jeff bridges i just can't i'm just thinking of the credin stuff it's so good anyways i gotta watch that tonight because we are filming that tomorrow and uh it'll be out next week next week and if you want to watch it you can do so on patreon i'm gonna be an all access member you know how to sign up disgrace ampaw dot com and that'll get you in and we hope to see you over there all right last week i spoke to you guys about my love for love story the john of kennedy jr carillon beset series on hulu produced by the great ryan murphy and you know it just reminded me we used to do recommendations all the time on this show and it was great and i didn't i didn't have a reason for stopping doing it we talked about movies and films and tv and and records and books lots of book talk in the past i think i stopped doing it because i don't know it just became like too much too much of the conversation but that's dumb you know we're always trying to make these episodes a specific length based on a bunch of different things i'm not going to bore you with the details maybe that's why maybe i was trying to be more efficient i don't know but i love recommendations and i know you guys do as well i love talking about stuff even if it's cheesy stuff you wouldn't expect uh like this jfk story which is believe me it's full on cheese but it's great i've posted about it in the patreon chat and honestly you guys are like what i don't know very little very little action on it i can't i know i'm not the only one watching this damn series anyhow more rex is what i'm saying more rex right now i'm in a i'm in a hole this i'm caught up on on love story and it comes out once a week which i can't stand i like the binge like most people so i'm just sitting all week waiting around for friday night for this thing to pop again and i got nothing so send me your recommendations is what i'm saying i need some tv rex series you know series i think i'm gonna do the killing have you guys watched the killing it's an older kind of true crimey show 2015 ish i'm intrigued because patty smith loves the show loved the show was devastated when it was canceled patty smith had some uh excellent excellent television tastes there's a law and order fan patty smith is kind of um she's kind of the original true crime girl that's what i've learned from my research like if she if she were of this generation our generation she would absolutely be like a my favorite murder listener she probably is a my favorite murder listener she's she's pretty open and she's pretty she's into some stuff i don't know about podcast but television it's pretty incredible what her obsession with some of these these true crime shows and i and it's i'm learning it stems back kind of similar to to me and i'm sure a bunch of as it is with a bunch of you guys as well it stems back to how to the true crime that she was exposed to growing up versus a kid in new jersey in her mom what her mom was into her mom her mom was obsessed with with the linberg case when her mom was young and that that kind of took over the radio airways for about 10 weeks it was honestly it was like the first podcast ever before we even do a podcast were but that kind of that the myth of that that true crime case lived large in patty smith's house you know and then later of course there's the whole manson thing that kind of you know enraptured you know everybody in 1969 who is a fan of rock and roll uh and then of course her time in new york with the son of sam who i was talking about earlier and all of this i i believe kind of led to um her surviving actually unlike a lot of her contemporaries and to her taste now in in this kind of true crimey television series stuff it's pretty interesting anyways that's that's all gonna be mixed up in my my patty smith story which i'll have for you in a couple weeks i cannot wait for you to hear anyways recommendations maybe what we'll start doing is maybe you know zef and i were doing them in the rap party maybe we'll start doing them more over there and some here why not both why not give the people what they want right you know what i want i want a football team next year that doesn't suck now and beyond that i want a football team next year that's going to win the super bowl so now it's time for the sports rants sponsored by five hour energy and their fruity rainbow flavor treat your taste buds to an explosion of fruity candy flavor with a tasty caffeine kick get candy flavored chaos with fruity rainbow five hour energy shots online at www.fivehourenergy.com or amazon all right guys listen we were in the dead zone last week the sports dead zone you know reduced to watching slap shot for the 17th time and rocky and whatever other sports movie is your your your flavor we're no longer there because it's nfl free agency and i was expecting something big to happen and maybe it will by the time you listen to this i was expecting the patreons the patreons honestly to sign pierce from the Colts big splashy free agent signing wide receiver bring them in let's do it i was convinced but they didn't not yet anyways well not with pierce you resign with the Colts and now they might have to trade for a j brown they're going to give up draft picks and i and i don't like that i don't like it at all why why you're the patriots why acting like the red sox spend the money spend it you like the third biggest franchise sports franchise in the world fourth whatever it is it's like Yankees cowboys man you and then the patriots what's up you got the bread spend it make us proud drake mays not winning the super bowl with some low rent stefon digs replacement why why'd you let go digs to cardi b was that why you don't like cardi b come on she's entertaining what's up i think cardi b let go of stefon digs though anyways i am digressing but that's what these rants are all about you know you just kind of just they just they just take you somewhere anyways that was the sports rant sponsored by five hour energies fruity rainbow flavor treat yourself to a candy like flavor explosion and satisfy your sweet tooth with the zero sugar treat once again you can get in on the candy flavored chaos online at www.fivehourenergy.com or amazon today all right all access members we're about to get into our exclusive portion of the after party right here wanted to update the all access members we've been doing these mini episodes for the past few months it's part of our offering there are 10 minute stories that are driven out of the subject matter from that week's full episode so for example we've got Chrissy Hine coming up next week in the the mini episode is about how Chrissy Hine was directly responsible for launching the career of the violent fems it's a great story the story however just it didn't fit into the story that we were telling so we figured we'd find a way to do it in a separate piece of content but here's the thing rather than give you an extra bit on the menu we're just going to increase the portion size so to speak from here on out we're doing away with the mini episodes and we're going to start to give you slightly longer full episodes probably about 40 minutes some are already 40 minutes some are some go much longer but typically they're usually around 30 minutes long and we just figured hey why are we limiting ourselves to our storytelling let's just give them the whole story find a way to make it work in the narrative we're not hearing this tremendous roar of approval from you guys on the mini episodes seems like the all access offering that you guys are most stoked on you know it's the extra content but that's the after party extra content or it's the this film should be played loud content or it's the ad-free listening those are the two things plus the community piece of the patreon chat those are the things that we know matter to you guys most this thing just and just feels like a little you know a little hanging extra thing there that that we're having to do and nobody's really vibing on it it's hard to find how it all fits together so like i said we're just doing away with those 10 minute mini episodes and we're going to be giving you a little bit more content in the full episode so you know in the end you're making out with the same amount of content that's where we're at with the mini episode hope you guys are cool with this hope you understand if you're not get at me we'll find a way to make it up to you otherwise all access members here's me and zeth talking about sting and how he's his music is going to set us free from from all all that that just globally has suppressed us and kept us down and and stings music is really gonna you know despite the fact that he's taking money from war criminals that doesn't don't pay attention to that don't pay to his music shall set us free we're going to talk about that and so much more a bunch of other artists a bunch of other criminal gigs they played for millions and millions of dollars for war criminals coming up in the all access portion of this after party right now all right guys listen as always we mentioned a bunch of artists that we've covered in this episode today a ton i can't go into all of them but off the top of my head hank williams talking heads black sabbath and matt's gonna have the episode information in the show notes section so that you can find those stories in our massive archive if you so choose okay let's recap and let's get out of here this week we got our new episode on towns van zandt we are rewinding this week over to paris and serge gainsburg next week our new episode on christy hyde from the pretenders as always zeth's giving you those hollywood and true crime vibes in the hollywood land episode so make sure you are subscribed over there he's also got his weekly rap party and his screening room number five this film should be played loud our video podcast our new episode on boogie nights is available for you right now we get a new one we're cooking up on the big labowski you're not going to want to miss out on that gotta be a patreon member to cop that content though number six six one seven nine six six six three eight your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history so keep calling keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about number seven do not forget discos this is not just content it's a community a community of the obsessed and no one cares about music books records and the crime and grime it ties them all together like you do and well that's a disgrace all right on january 1st new year's day 1997 towns van zamp passed away and this is what america was listening to on that day according to the billboard charts number one unbreak my heart tony braxton last week one peak position one weeks on chart 12 number two i believe i can fly through space jam r kelly last week two peak position two weeks on chart five number three don't let go love last peak position weeks on chart number four nobody keith swell featuring athena cage last week five peak position three weeks on chart number five quit talking and start mixing