Alopecia, Confidence & Self-Love | Alex Youmazzo & Emmy Combs on Embracing Your Beauty

Alopecia advocates and social media personalities Alex Umazzo and Emmy Combs joined the We're Out of Time podcast. I was diagnosed when I was one and I was diagnosed at six. What is alopecia? Alopecia is an autoimmune disorder. We have two different types of alopecia. I always explain it to kids as it's almost like being allergic to peanuts. It's like our white blood cells are allergic to our hair. Like it doesn't want it there. It thinks that it's wrong. It thinks that it needs to be gone out of the body. I actually lost my hair when I was one. So my parents kind of had to teach me like when I was going to school. Hey, by the way, like kids might pick on you or they might say something, but just don't let it bother you. I used to cover my head with a bandana. Let's just take it off and realize that I didn't need to hide. No matter about the bullying, it's just about the comments. I think it's ignorant. Yes. When I was a kid, I always wished that I had somebody to look up. That's what we want to be for them because we just didn't have that. Thank you for listening to the We're Out of Time podcast with Richard Tate. If you haven't already, please follow the podcast, rate and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know. If someone has a problem with substance use disorder, please call 1-CALL-PLACEMENT. That's 888-831-1581. And if we can't help you, we'll make a referral to someone who can. Please, We're Out of Time. Today, we've got Alex Yumazzo. Yeah. And Emily Combs. And me, but Emily works too. Oh, no, no, no. And. No, that's OK. I just go by Emmy. And Emmy Combs. Yes. Yes. Thank you guys so much for coming. Wow. What a. Thank you for having us. What a joy. All right. Alex is a huge TikTok star with more than six million followers. And Emmy is a top makeup artist and creator with over 11 million followers on TikTok. Both were diagnosed with alopecia and both have turned into something powerful. Yeah. The first thing I want to ask is for the viewers that don't know. What is alopecia? Go off, I mean. Alopecia is an autoimmune disorder, so it causes us not to grow hair or to lose our hair. We have two different types of alopecia. So I actually have alopecia, universalist. I have alopecia, totalist. Yes. So I have complete hair loss over the entire body and I was diagnosed and I was one. And then I have hair loss just on my head and sometimes on my face and I was diagnosed at six. Yeah. So I have all body hair. She is no. Yeah. Hair. Yep. And then there's one more, which is just alopecia ariada and that's the patches. That's patchy hair loss on the head and no hair loss of the body at all. So there's three different types. People don't. And alopecia ariada is like super common. So sometimes you wouldn't even realize that a lot of people actually have it. And it's literally just categorized as bald spots on the head and it's super, super common. Like some people do treatments for it and alopecia ariada is like easily to kind of treat, but like kind of like what we have, our body just rejects hair and it doesn't want anything to do with it. So we've just had it since we were younger. Yeah. Basically our white blood cells think it's something that I always explain it to kids as it's almost like being allergic to peanuts. It's like our white blood cells are allergic to our hair. Like it doesn't want it there. It thinks that it's wrong. It thinks that it needs to be gone out of the body the same way that people eat something they're allergic to and your body reacts and it doesn't want to be there. So we kind of have that same thing. We're just allergic to our hair at the end of the day. The only thing I'm thinking about right now is how soft the two of you must be. We are. He's softer than me. That is so nobody's ever going to be upset. No, no, no. No, I mean we have done little tests too on like we did on our friends and her boyfriend and our other friend's boyfriend where we make them feel the back of our heads. Uh huh. I say who's who without looking. Oh, that's so dope. Yeah. All right, feel that one. And she'll bow to us. Oh yeah. I feel like we have very similar heads actually. We both have like a little like, Bob, she has like the roundest head ever over there. I do have a palette. She has like the most perfect ball and head. It's like she was born to be a ball. I love that. I love the love that you two have for each other. It's like. You do. You do. Feels so nice. Well, thank you. And what's really intoxicating about the both of you is your joy of living. Yeah. That everybody wants that. Yeah. There's no way that someone can look at the two of you and not smile. Moly. All right. What was that like getting Alopecia so young? No. Yeah, we have two different stories. So yeah, you want to go first? I got Alopecia when I was around six years old or five is when it like started. And then six is when I really lost my hair and I went completely bald. I kind of was like, okay with it 100% from the start. Like I love the fact that I was using my hair. I never tried to cover it up. Obviously everyone around was kind of scared so they didn't know what to do. So we tried a few treatments. None of the treatments worked. I didn't like them. So we stopped them immediately. And then once I lost like all the hair on my scalp because my scalp went first. I just had no hair on the top and like some hair loss on the bottom. I asked to just shave the rest off. And then since that night I haven't had hair. So we have that video of me literally shaving my head completely. Did you ever post that? Yeah, I have. But it's just like I just had like a circle like bowl of hair like around. But every old Jewish man in LA has that same thing. And I looked at myself in the mirror when I was even six. I knew I was like, this is not the look for me. So I was like, please get it off immediately. And so it literally took me to the back and shaved it. You never know. You could have looked really hot with a comb over. Oh, God, we didn't try. You are sexy on me. The comb over. What was your story? Okay, so I have a little bit of a different story than Alex because I grew up in a really small town. So I'm from Maryland and I actually lost my hair when I was one. So I don't have the memory of losing my hair. I just grew up learning that I didn't have hair and that was different. So my parents kind of had to teach me like when I was going to school. Hey, by the way, like kids might pick on you or they might say something. But just don't let it bother you. Don't let it bother you. So I just, I was like a little kindergartner, pre-k, first grade, second grade all the way up till now. I just didn't have hair. I think I went through a phase of I was really insecure about it. And I feel like that came around really, really young. So when I was probably like five or six, I was understanding that I was different. And I wanted to kind of fit in a little bit more and have something of my own that was not just, oh, she's a little bald girl. So I used to cover my head with a bandana. I used to tie it around the side and put it in a ponytail just so I could be kind of like hair. So it was like something that really affected me when I was a kid and going in through like middle school, I think that was when I got my first wig. And I just honestly wearing the wig at that time created a really bad relationship with like, with wigs for me because it was more like everyone was like, oh, why are you wearing a wig? Or they knew I was wearing a wig so they would say something. I wasn't really like bullied because I had such close friends. That was my next question. I was kidding. I'm looking for you guys already. Well, I mean, I've had, I've obviously had, have had negativity around it. But my core friends growing up and I went to a really good school like my parents when I was a kid put me in private school so that it was like a lot less kids at one time so that people would understand. And then I didn't go to public school until my middle school year, which I was already adapted to like knowing what alopecia was, how to explain it, how to tell people. And my one thing was if I just smile through everything I do, everyone else will reciprocate that energy. God, that is so good. Yeah. So that's, that's how I kind of went through life was even though I was super insecure and no one really know behind the scenes, I was super insecure. But as soon as I was behind my wall, like I was like as confident as ever, even when I was covering my alopecia. And it wasn't until my junior year of high school when I took it off, it was like the biggest turning point in my life. And I went out bald for like the first time in like 10 years when I did it from five to like 16. So 11 years. And it was literally the best thing I ever did, like was just take it off and realize that I didn't need to hide. And it was such a crazy realization. So yeah, who's an insane time bullied bullied. Were you bullied? I don't think it's not more about the bullying. It's just about the comments. I think it's ignorant. Yeah. It's just plain ignorance. I don't think that it's, I don't think that it's when you're kid, it was meant to be in a harmful way. But when you're having 900 questions about something or you're bald or why can't you do this or like kids don't even mean it sometimes and they make like funny jokes to their other friend and their parents like say, sorry, it's like things. Yeah, like they're not trying to be bullied crying. But then we do have those people who are bullies that we do come across in life. And obviously, like we have learned to deal with that in our own ways. But when we were kids, I think it was more just misunderstanding and ignorance. I wish that more parents would teach that it's not like long hair means girl and short hair means boy. Because I think we get that mixed up like a lot in societal like standards. I think that the second that a girl doesn't have long hair, even if they just cut their hair short to a bob, kids are like, why would you cut your hair like short, you're not a boy. And that's like, and it comes from being taught that because you're really taught how you're supposed to view situations. So if you're taught, you have long hair, you're a girl, or you have short hair, you're a boy, what are you going to think when you're out in the world and you see someone like us? So it's just like things like that. I think it really just comes from the core of learning. It is heartbreaking and it's super hard to think about, which is why we've tried to switch it into the mentality of it's just ignorance on their part. It's just something that they need to learn. Yeah, they learned it yet. They haven't learned it yet. And they're not bad for it because I was ignorant a half hour ago. Right? Yeah, yeah. I was ignorant half hour ago. I could have said something stupid out of ignorance. Without meaning any of it. Right, right. And you guys get that. Yeah, it's the accountability too to like realize that like, we've had some people say something that they didn't realize maybe was like so offensive and we kind of like, whoa. And then they're like, I'm so sorry. I did that to you. Right when I walked in, I said something stupid, right? And you're like, whoa, that's a crazy question. No, I just have every year, it takes time to learn and you can't judge people by their cover is, which is what a beautiful thing that Alopecia has taught us, right? What a gift. All right. Has living with Alopecia changed or expanded your definition of beauty? Has it become a superpower for you? Yeah, I would feel like it's become a superpower. I feel like with Alopecia, you kind of have to, I mean, everybody on social media is like, beauty and makeup and this is beauty, that is beauty. But the standards behind beauty, I'm like, who made up those rules? Who really decided what was beauty? Everything's different now. Everything's different. When I was a kid, you had to be thin, right? And now there's a voluptuous and bald is beautiful, guys. It really, really is. Yeah. It's gorgeous. Yeah. No, we love, we love bald. Yeah. Yeah. I interrupted. No, no, no, that's okay. I, yeah, I just, I feel like with Alopecia, I've found more of myself and like, I really, really like think that both of us like glow from the inside out because it's like, there are going to be people that are like, oh, how, how are you so confident? I'm like, it's really not about the hair. It's about what, what your attitude is from the inside out. It's about how you present yourself. It's about how you treat other people. Yeah. It's about how you treat people in the moment. It's about how you speak to people. It's about how you care what everyone around you is doing that. I feel like is what makes you beautiful, not really like everything physical. Of course, like we do makeup. We know that putting on makeup also makes you beautiful. It's like that too, but it's all of it as a combined. There's a difference. What made you guys start sharing the Alopecia journeys? Honestly, I didn't even mean to. I think that I actually, it's a crazy thing because my friend, she actually passed away now, but she was a TikToker and she kind of just did it for fun. All right. She passed away. She committed suicide in 2022. I know. Awful. Yeah. Like super unfortunate and awful. But I grew up with her and she was. She was on drugs. On, she did do it with drugs, but she wasn't on drugs. She just got really fed up one night and it was over. Yeah, it was over. So, but I love her and I'll always thank her because without her, my journey would have never started. I would not be sitting here in this chair. I would not be doing any of the things I ever did because she was a TikToker. She was posting random TikToks. She was just hanging out with a bunch of people in the TikTok community. And then I started posting stuff in my first two videos were kind of like, ha ha TikTok. Like, you know what I mean? Like with her basically there. And then I would steal her phone and make the TikToks on her phone. And then I just started posting and they started blowing up and they started blowing up even more, even more and even more. And then she one day was like, we want to come hang out with me and my TikToker friends. And they were some pretty big people at the time from Musically. And I was like, yeah. And then ever since then it was like, boom, it just took off and then I met her. And then I just kept posting and then I've changed my content so many times over the years. But without her, I really wouldn't like, I didn't start this with like a mindset of I want to help people with alpica. I wish I did. Like I will be completely honest. I started it as just a fun thing with her. And I just think that like it was just meant to be that I got here and I get to live this life. And it wouldn't have been possible without her. So basically that, yeah. Do you know what's cool? Yeah. What's cool is there's all sorts of happy accidents in life. There really is. Did you know that and I, if I get this wrong, don't beat me up for it. But I was told that, you know, post-its. Like, yeah, like a little post-it. A little post-its? Yeah. The guy that created that was trying to find a glue that would be permanent. It was a massive failure. How? Massive. It couldn't be a bigger failure. Because you can stick it and stick it off. That's right. Happy accidents. Billions of dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Right? It was meant to be. Yeah. Well, I can also ping off of Alex is I started social media kind of like we met through TikTok, basically. We met at a TikTok event. So we didn't know each other when we first started our social media journeys. And I really started my social media journey because I was always posting about alopecia. That's kind of where we, that's where we are so in sync, but not like we are so like connected because we have these different stories. And I, because I grew up having that insecurity issue and because I didn't really like love myself at a time, I was like, if I post on social media and like kind of share my story, then maybe people will understand from my perspective. So like I was sharing stuff when I was in high school just about alopecia. And then I ended up going to makeup school in LA and that's what brought me to LA. And I was super into makeup and hair. You went into makeup and hair because you didn't have the hair. Hair, originally yes, because I actually am a licensed cosmetologist and I was a licensed cosmetologist first. And it was more of like, I was super interested in it because I knew I was interested in makeup. And I was like, well, let me just go into cosmetology. And I was- Can I have a quick question? Yeah. I hate to interrupt. No, that's okay. Have you guys ever thought about doing makeup and hair for people with alopecia? We do that. Actually really, yeah. We just were a part of an event called the Balterage and we did a bunch of- Balterage. I saw that. Yeah. That's our best friend owns Balterage. 15 girls eyelash. That's what made me nuts. That's what made me nuts. Yeah. So that's literally what we just like, we did that a week ago. We can, yeah. Yeah, it's the best. And I- I just gotta do that all the time. We will. That's a good point. Oh my God, that is so beautiful because not only are you making it like okay, but now when you guys come in with your infectious thing, you guys got going on, it's like what it says is, no, I'm special. Yeah. It's not, I'm not, I'm not like everybody else. I'm special. Oh, 100%. And for those girls, like that's like when we, when we were thinking about it and like me being a makeup artist, I've done makeup for so many people and I, that's like literally what my job was before social media. Like I was doing jobs and when I was a kid, I always wish that I had somebody to look up to. That's right. So that's what we want to be for them because we just didn't have that. And to care for. Right. Like when you're there putting, that's an intimate thing. Yes. Someone's touching you and they're looking at you and they want to make it perfect. Yeah. If you're important. Yes. That's a beautiful, that is a- Well, making this an ill look in general. Yeah. Yeah. I will only let Emmy touch my face. No one else is allowed to do my makeup. No one. Because it's a very like, it's a very like specific thing. Like I don't think people realize how much makeup can like actually change your whole mood of the day. Like if I wake up and I hate my eyebrows, my day is ruined. I'm sorry. I am about to ruin everyone else's day too. Like I said not. And when I was in like high school and I woke up and I couldn't get my eyebrows and eyeliner on right, I didn't even go. Like who cares? I didn't even go to school because I was not having it. So that's why I think it's just such an important thing. Like I've gotten my makeup done fully and I've gone into the bathroom and fully sat there wiping it off and had her come in and do it. Like I can't have anyone else touching my face and doing it. Which is why I think it's so important that we're going to be doing it for other people with LAPisha because we know. It's like there's so much more of your face that's actually- That's right. Yeah. Like and that is what is like that's what they're going to look at is your makeup. Especially if you don't have hair. So yeah. Yeah. God you guys are so good. Yeah. So good. So good. Yeah. Oh how fun is it working with big makeup brands? Oh it's- And share some favorites. Yeah we both yeah I feel like I started my journey with makeup like really long time ago. So when I was first starting with makeup brands I was like wow this is so cool. I'm like this is the best and I feel like my favorite brand to work with is L'Oreal. I might be biased because I am currently working with them a lot right now. But I just they actually created this eyebrow pen that we use every day and it has actually changed my life because I would struggle with I mean I've done my eyebrows everyone's like oh they look so perfect but this pen they created like took my eyebrow routine from like 20 minutes sitting there like trying to draw on these like hair like strokes to the one pen does it all. And I literally am just in all about this eyebrow pen. Literally sit there and have a 30 minute conversation no cameras no anything and we're just talking about how much we love this brow pen. Yep. Three minutes like no no one's paying us no one's- No one's even listening to us. Yeah. And we're just having a conversation with each other how much how important this brow pen is just crazy it's a brow pen. Yeah yeah we yeah. Have them reach out. No no no we're already working with them. We do we- She's saying off camera when nobody's looking. Oh got it. Let's just say off even though when we work with them we're on camera and we're saying these things I just think that sometimes people get confused between things that we actually like because we are sitting there it is our job to sit there and say that we like things sometimes that we don't 100% love because that's our job you know. So we're we just like sit there and talk about this brow pen for like an hour and how much we love it and that is just so different we never do that like there's not a different product on See that's one of the things- That we've ever done that way. But yeah I just feel like L'Oreal has been like such a like an amazing team and brand to work with and they own like a lot of brands that you wouldn't think like that are under the L'Oreal family so I've worked with a lot of like L'Oreal brands in general but just their team and the way they make you feel like I talking about the brow pen I just did the campaign for the brow pen and it was literally like the best thing ever like their team treated me like royalty they love me and they just like really admired the way I did my brows which made me feel special because I don't have any brows so they were like this is amazing they look so good like we love it you we love that you love this so much and I'm like you guys have no idea how much I actually love this pen. L'Oreal let me tell you why I'm gonna leave it in here okay because you did the right thing. Now honestly it's life changing genuinely it's a life changing thing for something someone like us like the amount of kids at that event that came up to Emmy because she's been doing the promotion for it saying like I bought that pen because you made that video and now they get eyebrows every day and it's something that they didn't have before they there was there's tattoo eyebrows but the tattoo eyebrows are shiny and peel off like. I never thought for a second that the two of you didn't have real eyebrows never not for a second. Say L'Oreal you have a lot of eyebrow right now yeah usually I don't have this much eyebrow that really puts this thing on my story like embracing the hair last night because I have like eyelash and eyebrows but mine loves to come and go so if some things I have them some I don't and it's just like I'll wake up and have an eyebrow spun that's like her type of alopecia yeah yeah so I'll like have sometimes I'll have hair sometimes I would right now I have like I have a lot of eyebrow and I've never had an eyebrow hair in my life and I've had a peach fuzz and I literally like will pluck it out like I literally never had eyebrow hair or I'm in the middle yeah I'm like the mommy bear yeah it's awesome yeah all right how long does it take you to doll up like this morning it depends this morning like what kind of doll up this morning this morning okay okay this morning it took me 30 minutes yeah yeah really like not even maybe 25 yeah how are like how much better can you look I don't know I mean if we're like yeah we don't have foundation on we don't have like like sometimes we do really fun eye shadows why do you need why do you need foundation that's like I feel like if we're doing a super glammed look and we're doing like really popping eyes you want your skin to look flawless like fake air I guess yeah like airbrush and we would put foundation on for that purpose okay yeah but for right like for both of us like I know we're both wearing like our moisturizer tint and like we do like glowy blush and that's like about it yeah I would say like 30 minutes for this but if you're asking us to get ready and we're like going out somewhere you have to give us like three and a half hours yeah like putting on wigs that's a different story half a day we can't go anywhere we can't do anything out why first of all let me let me ask you this question because this is a mental health yeah podcast yeah okay how do you make the decision to put on a wig or go bald how do you do it that's a really good question well I like hated wigs for a while I was like I'll never put one of those on those itchy things I'll never cover up being bald like I love myself bald but I think that honestly came from a place of insecurity if I didn't want to see myself with the hair that I could have had I guess or like you know what I mean and I saw but stop stop stop it's true you know how intuitive that is and how smart that is they have any idea I did go to school for two years and it was psychology so that was so beautiful thank you go on I just I just realized that it literally came from that fact of me being scared and I would send so much hate towards the idea of wigs or wearing wigs with actually no knowledge of that's where my ignorance came in how I was saying the ignorance from the bullies that's how I know they're ignorant because this is where my ignorance comes in right here is with the fact that I thought that it was so wrong to cover up being bald and in reality a wig is like a fun accessory it's like putting on a hat for the day it's like putting on like when you go to put a ponytail in your hair in the morning that's your that's your look for the day like it adds on to your look so like I just had my birthday I wanted to wear a fun super platinum curly wig because it's different I don't normally look like that on a Friday so people are gonna be like whoa she looks so crazy and so good all I did was put on some blonde hair it's literally like a crazy like switch when you don't really do much and also it comes off at the end of the day so who cares yeah basically yeah I feel like yeah the same thing like we just kind of decide like hey we're going to this event and everyone's getting glammed why not do a nice slick back bun in a in a wig that is like so but like it looks so real so it's like why not get that glammed up so that's kind of where our decision comes from which are these wigs expensive you're very lucky girls yeah we do work with a lot of companies yeah I get that you're getting them but what um I would say they're thousand to five thousand dollars I would say but I feel like right now there's a lot of wigs that you can get that are super real for like like Zile is like 500 to 700 but the really but the cat we wear yeah the really long ones with the cap that are more custom those ones go to 2000 to 2500 I would say I haven't seen one that's really yeah yeah there's a couple that are yeah is there a charity where you can buy wigs for little girls that want it you can get your hair okay well that's not gonna happen that happens a lot of people do it actually no I'm talking about the people that don't know where can I donate where can we donate well we do well we're about to do a lot of the lot of things so yeah yeah we're about to do a lot of things that would actually help with that I guess yeah I'll say a little like for the wig thing specifically I know that most of all the wig brands that we work with they have there's like certain programs that they're like oh here donate your hair or hey like we have like these people like there's a lot of wig companies that work with people that can't afford wigs but on the flip side of that there's things that like we have been working on personally all year with our other friend that we have not announced yet let's do it and we don't want to fully announce it because we are we know we're not with our other girl that's doing with us so she like we shouldn't do it we're gonna give you like what it is like what we're doing yeah so we are starting a non-profit and it will have to do with alopecia and autoimmune disorders so all of them as a whole and there's going to be a lot of things that we are going to do in the community that are going to help people a part of our community that is the whole point of what we're doing we want to share the love share the community share the connection because we did not have that when we were younger and we do not want to focus on trying to treat us or fix us that is not the issue we don't want to be fixed we just want a community of people to be able to come together and to find that support that they might not have with their family yeah and our main focus is just going to be like why like why does this happen like really why does happen why does auto immune disorders yeah it's really just for us to understand from the inside out why maybe our bodies are doing this so people can come in there and like I have another autoimmune disease which is called chogrens and I'm sure you've probably never heard of it before but there's a community people that have that and they also are like where do I go where do I talk to you that I'm not a visible thing that you can see like ours our autoimmune disorder is very visible like we without our yeah ours is a very visible autoimmune disorder but there's a lot of autoimmune disorders that are invisible completely invisible and these people feel alone and they're all connected these people that have these invisible disorders feel alone they feel tired they don't know who to talk to they all they're talking to is doctors about it that are trying to treat them and they're giving them scary drugs like in these foundations that are already supporting alopecia they are backed up and supported by only big pharma companies only big pharma companies yeah so what we want to do is just we're just trying to do the complete opposite like actually be there for so your so your so so really if you synthesize it down to a subject you're perfect just the way you are yes and that's it yeah yeah and if there's things like for like my show grins it doesn't guys can take that if you want go on no yeah well that for like my other autoimmune disease it's no secret that it causes me pain like it does my show grins my other autoimmune what is so it's basically an autoimmune disease that causes inflammatory in your body and it affects certain organs so it's kind of like the sister disease to lupus i don't know if you know what lupus is but all of autoimmune diseases are connected if you have one you probably there's a high chance you'll get one later so me having alopecia stem to 23 years later when i'm now 24 i got diagnosed with show grins and i was 22 i have inflammation throughout my entire body so like like the people with alopecia for example the people with alopecia like they might need support that they really aren't getting and we just want to offer that we really do you guys are Jesus that's all we'll say about that one you know what i'm not gonna do we'll have to come back yeah we let's we in a month and a half you guys can come back and bring your move in for all i care i'll take this house is really nice this one this one's mine have you ever felt like you had to play a character online to stay liked that's a great question it's a really good question but alex i think the only thing the only thing that i think that people can get into like that character acting is i think standing up for things you believe in is really important but i don't think that everyone should have to stand up for maybe something that they have no idea what they're standing up for i guess you know what i mean i think cancel culture is a very large thing basically what i'm saying is i don't think everyone should be forced to speak up about everything i think people should speak about the issues that are very important to them and that they know have knowledge on but i think that this cancel culture everyone needs to speak about every single thing going on every single time puts this kind of pressure on it's like oh i can't post today because this happened but i need to post about this but what if i say this wrong but i really want to support the fact that this is going on but what if i say it wrong so i'm just not going to say anything there's like a lot of societal pressure to say things right to do things right to say things about certain things to not say things about certain things and even if you support something that maybe everybody else does and you say something online then everyone goes at you but then everybody else in life is about to have their own opinions they all get to walk around and no one's like you know what i mean like take that riff that she just did put it on a thing that's a rap song go on that was awesome it's just the fact of like why why can other people have their own opinions about things but then as soon as someone on social media is everyone attacks them it's just like why why does the why does the attack happen and i get some people's are valid okay some things are extremely valid but i think that cancel culture works way too hard to the point where people go look for things that they can get mad at and that's what's wrong with social media right now you know those people that get and do that vicious cycle and they just can't pull themselves out of it and they just they know that they're creating wreckage but god i can't stop and then just gets worse and worse yes yeah that's what it is yeah yeah i agree all right guys listen what do you want to talk about isn't it is there anything that you wanted to talk about this the number three mental health podcast in the country and according to apple and i want to make it to apple i love that that's the only hey well that's all i know you know i i've never seen a podcast and i've never listened to a podcast created a tie love one yeah i'm talking about yeah because just like you guys wanted to be supportive to little girls and yeah boys that have alopecia hundred percent i came back because people were dying children were dying yeah and there's nothing more uh horrible nothing on this earth than burying a child um yeah i can't even imagine i can't even you guys are such good souls i can't wait till you have children because uh when you do you'd be the best mothers ever yeah i feel like you would yeah this one's gonna adopt i'm gonna cry no you're gonna adopt one no we're just gonna cry why baby tell me i think it's my friend recently i lost my friend like so recently and then you said like nothing's worse than losing a child and then i watched like their parents mental health is just so important i just think like wherever you can find support in whatever you're dealing with like it is so important just to have someone like no matter what the situation is if it's alopecia if it's any autoimmune that's what we're doing if it's mental health that's what the podcast is for and i think people don't think mental health is as as serious as it is and it just is so serious like you can't just keep going one day and everything's fine after something so traumatic happens or like something that changes your life genuinely happens i think the world has put pressure on people to go so quickly through these emotions and not process them and i just think it's important that you take a step back and you realize how many things are going on in the world right now how many emotions you should actually be feeling like it's okay to cry it's okay to have these feelings about things it's okay to grieve for a longer time than other people like i just don't get the timeline that society has put on everyone to have this like strong mental health be successful do this don't drink work out every day get up at this certain time if you're not doing this you're not doing things right like that is not the way you live life so it's just important to take a step back and realize that everything on social media half of those people aren't even doing what they're actually telling you they're doing for their mental health like waking up at 6 a.m and going on a run every day like there's no way you know so like i'm sorry i'm sorry like you like and even girls have admitted that they literally said like yeah i would say that i was running and i wouldn't go it's like but you're supposed to be a mental health person making people feel better so i just think really it's not about comparing compare comparison is like the thief of life it really is second beautiful like magnificent thing you've said today thank you thank you it really is the thief of life so and i i think um i we have it in our friendship i say that it's like we will never compare each other to each other we will never compete with each other whatever the other person gets it's always an accomplishment and it's always where each other's biggest supporters and biggest cheerleaders and i think that's another thing that we're losing in life is that you really are supposed to be your friend's biggest cheerleaders because they get married because they buy a house because they get successful because they get this job you should be at their front door with a cake you shouldn't be feeling like your life sucks because they have these things god i love you people so i just think that this like really just sit back and like think about life that's what i would say just because we you you brought the mental health thing if you have anything else to say it's just like comparisons comparison whatever you say is really the thief so really just think back at your life how lucky we are to have everything that we have especially i was literally just in the dominican republic and watching kids run around completely without shoes and naked and they were just so happy they had nothing and they were running around laughing and jumping in the puddles and it's just like watching that was just like okay this is what life is about it's not about the crazy having 900 things underneath you every day to have just like your daughter with the one she wants one thing of makeup that makes so much sense because you don't need 700 million things really at the end of the day you just need what makes you happy in life let's sit here you guys living in we both live in different cities i'm currently in north hollywood i've been seen in cruda okay so on the corner of little san amonica and sentry park east there is a high rise yes i i've actually i know exactly where that is of course you do okay that's why i'm bringing you up yeah because everybody there you only have a few types of people there yeah you got divorces husbands that are running out of that place because they got nowhere to go right and it's furnished yeah they've got uh uh guys putting in their uh sugar babies or mistresses right and the third is celebrity celebrity uh typically people that are uh bicoastal yep and they're just visiting right so they don't have to sweat it and the fourth is my favorite the fourth is all the kids and their lambos right okay that are just doing whatever they can to stay above water because their overhead is 20 to 30 grand a month yeah right and and they don't have five nickels to put together yeah right it's like that must be so exhausting yeah to keep up that in this social media world of this influencer thing that you guys are are part of right what's with all the bullshit dude it's just people trying to become famous that's what i said the comparison is a thief because these people have actually nothing at the end of the day nothing no no they have nothing they have everything no no no no no no kids your age think they have everything i know they have no yes i know people with with that's but kids are age are the people who are looking at that and thinking like i'm not doing enough i'm not i'm never gonna be anything i can't do this i can't do that and it's all lie anyway it's all lie yeah it's all lie so i just think it's important just to like whatever life that you're living just find the happiness in that life like don't try and live someone else's life or try and like go how hard is that though how realistic is that you know you know what social media is right it's high school yes yeah literally it's your back in high school yeah and there's like the mean girls group yeah the the judging and and you're the sweet girls you're like the sweet girls that i was friends with thank you yeah it's okay nobody liked me any what no but i like i had no friends in high school either i didn't i didn't i was a quarterback and everybody hated me okay i swear to god how does that even happen that's like first time ever like like that's something those are words that have never been uttered in human history like the quarterback i was the quarterback and everybody hated me anyway yeah okay i liked it you guys have the heart of a servant that's how you operate in the world oh yeah with the heart of a servant yeah it's the most beautiful thing in the world because when you do something a lot of people do it and they don't do it with you know a joyful heart yeah yeah yeah you guys do that yeah we're fine we loved what we do genuinely like we love it so yeah i love the love that you have for each other yeah love it we do everything together i love it literally like sisters like i was to come alone today and i was like i think i mean you should come with me if i do anything alone i'm like i think can i also bring alex if not i'm not going let me tell you let me tell you you guys know where i live okay no we're coming back we're bringing kiss to you remember you can ladies you can bring anybody you want at any time you want my home is your home and i think you're both magnificent don't stop doing what you're doing thank you thank you so much all right yeah thank you all right where can people find you guys we're on all platforms yeah everything so my um my social media is at emmy combs emmy c o m b s s and mine's alex humazo al ex y o u m a z zero on everything all right ladies i use you already see you next Tuesday damn oh okay all right we're gonna give you the junior balls easier okay you get five throws and i go ahead and i get one throw to beat you that's it okay so let me explain the game all right 1.2 points 3 points 4.5 points 6 points 7 8 and 9 points oh i get one oh okay all right any time any time oh that's all okay oh that's it that's it you got that in that one didn't go in oh my god this is a disaster oh just one there it is oh my god there's no way for me to win that's right there's no way for me to win and i just lost that on a promotion we're never running this