NAT FAXON Is From Manchester “ON” The Sea

Hey, buddy. Hey, Sufi. How are you? I'm good. That's wonderful. I'm back from Mammoth once again. It is so cold on the East Coast. Oh, yeah. It is so very, very cold. Yeah, you got those low numbers when you look at the weather apps. And we have, you know, our kids do a lot of stuff outside. They go to like a forest school, they go skiing, and it feels borderline cruel and unusual to actually make them do those things. Are you still doing those things with them? If it's a cold day of skiing, like they have lessons. Yeah, I think it's, if it's so cold, my, I mean, I'll bring my stuff, but, you know, Addy likes to ski with me after her lesson, but I think it's so cold that I'm just going to gamble on her not wanting to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The bummer is you have to like gear up, because I can't like put my stuff in the lodge because then when she finishes, like there's no one, you know, I gotta bring her in with me, whatever. So I'm kind of hopeful that she doesn't want to, but at the same time, like if Addy wants to ski after her lesson, like you have to ski with her till she's done. Like that's what's the point of being, you can't be the reason you're done. Gotta wait till your kids, which is why I was a great kid because I was always done. Because you were always done. Yeah. I respected my elders. Yeah. And you got mom and dad coming down this weekend? I have mom and dad coming to town and I, here's, I have, because it's so cold, I feel like we got to be inside and I have a plan and I really am hopeful I pull it off, which is the Poncalympics, which is if the kids go to forest school, that means they're sort of out of the house for four hours and I want to set up around the house like different dumb games for the Poncalympics. Well, yeah. I mean, you know, dad will be excellent at that. I think maybe a decathlon. I'm kind of thinking 10 events. Yeah, that's great. Because we have like a little, we have like a little like a a foldy like ski ball thing. Uh-huh. You know, we have a basket. Well, you're halfway there. You know what game the kids have been playing? What card game in playing that we used to play? Muleborn. Oh, Muleborn. Yeah. Yeah. Muleborn is a French card game, which is basically about, it's like a driving game. Yeah. Driving, you can get a flat tire, but it's like, it's a race. It's a race to a beautiful French landscape, I believe. To a million borns, I think, if my French is right. Yes. The Poncs are coming. Kids are very excited about the Poncs coming. And yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Great. It's a Nafaxon's on today. And as Ironies would have it last night, I had dinner. Joel McHale was on my show and Joel's in town. We get dinner and with John Oliver, who is a castmate of his own community. Yeah. And then Jim Rash, who was also on community and is a Nafaxon's writing partner. So, Jim Rash, also a neighbor of mine, also Jim Rash, sneaky jacked. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Couldn't talk dinner. You know, who's sneaky jacked. Like the most, I mean, I think maybe you know, Joel McHale. Oh, that's not, he's not sneaky. He likes college football, I feel like. At the light, he did play college football. I saw Joel McHale at the last Patriots, Seahawk Super Bowl. In like the lobby of a hotel and he was coming up from the gym. And he was, you know, I think he was wearing like a sleeveless shirt and it was so, I like, couldn't like talk. Oh, yeah. We were once talking about being runners and I was like, oh, yeah, I was like, yeah, I've done a couple of marathons. He's like, yeah, yeah, I've done two. I'll go, how fast? You don't want to know. I go, why don't I want to know? He goes, it's going to make you feel bad. He's like, I'm really, he goes, I'm really fast. And I'm like, oh, thank you for telling me. Yeah. Yeah. Talking about not being able to talk, I went out to a friend's gallery show last night and Kenzie was getting home late from work. So she wasn't able to join me. And when I got home, I texted him like, hey, I'm on the way. She's like, okay, I'm watching heated rivalry. It's crazy. And I was like, I can't believe you haven't already watched heated rivalry. It sounds like it's like right up your alley. And when I came in, she had paused it just because I was coming in and I was like, you can finish this. I have to do a couple of things. Like I'm going to do some things in the kitchen and I'm going to set up for this podcast. And she's like, I can't, I can't hit play on this with you here. She's like, it'll be like watching a sex scene with my dad. Like it's just, it's too, she's like, it's too much for me to watch with you. And she wouldn't, she wouldn't finish it. Yeah. I kind of understand. Yeah. I don't know. And also I would be coming in completely, you know, nothing had ramped up. And as you told me about the show as well, nothing does ramp up. It just happens. But yeah, she wouldn't, wouldn't hit play. Yeah. I don't blame her. Alexi watched it independent of me. I had watched five of the six episodes because Connor's story was coming on. And then I just didn't have time for the six. And she was like, I'll watch the six with you. I'll rewatch it. And I'm like, I want to do that. I want to do that. I don't know. Fascinating. Fascinating thing though. There's a school concert today. I'm going to bust out and go to. And Ash, I guess is introducing it. I guess they rotate around because it's like sort of called this a community period. I don't know. Ash is not, I don't know, of all my kids, he would be the one I would think would have the most hesitation. And I guess they offered to the kids like, you don't have to do it. It's your turn. And he was like, no, I want to do it. Oh, that's great. And then he goes, I want to dress fancy. And I'm like, all right, man, like, what do you want to wear? Blue button up. He's like, yeah, I'm like, great. So I put it on. And then he's so slow. So I came downstairs to feed the other two. And then he came down. He goes, this is too fancy. And it's like literally just like a blue button up. I'm like, you think it's too fancy? He's like, yeah, this is too fancy. So he's wearing a navy blue sweater. He's basically dressed the way I'm always dressed. Yeah. That's great. I mean, also if it's cold out, you don't want that sweater instead of the button up. And there's a real problem in our house that I get blamed for, which is Axel wants to wear his Steeler Jersey twice a week. And we told him he could only wear it once a week. And he's pretty bummed about it. And then he even today goes, I didn't wear it yesterday. And Alexi's out of town. So he like, you know, the lies through the roof. He's like, I think when yesterday, and then I'm like, ah, he was like, he did wear it yesterday. She sold them out. He did. They both did. They're like, he wore it. I think they're both like, yeah, I mean, he can't, he's not a football player. He can't wear that jersey every day. Do you think that after football season, he'll dial it back? Or do you think this is going to be? No. Okay. Is the short answer. They also now they're playing flag football at school. So I think like, if anything, his love of football is going up. That's fun. They also want to throw this little football around in our little apartment. That's problematic. And I'm just, they won't stop. And I'm like, this is like bad parenting. All right. When something breaks, it's over. They're like, all right. No kids going to be like, oh, then we should stop before we break a thing. Well, good luck. Hey, I've talked about this on my other podcast. So I apologize for anybody listens to both. But have you, did you see the Heath Ledger movie, Night's Tale, back in the day? No, but Liz Kikowski was just talking to me about it. Because I was talking about Lancelot. And she brought that up, but we were just talking about it. And then she sent me, she was like, I think it was this or no, she was talking about first night. Right. And I was like, is that Heath Ledger? But I don't recall if I've seen Night's Tale. A lot of listeners on the Lonely Island podcast are like, oh, it's awesome. You got to watch it. And I think I might try to watch it because I bet mom and dad haven't seen it. It's like 2000. It's like a night's movie. You know what else I really like? Is that new Game of Thrones? Oh, I haven't started it. It's like half hour episodes. And it's kind of, and it's really like, in that way that I'm like, oh, thank God. Because like House of Dragon, again, I love the Game of Thrones world. House of Dragon, I'm like, what's, somebody give me the family tree again? Who are these people? If I take an extra day to watch it, I'm like, what's going on? Whereas this is just like about a little, a dude wants to be a knight in his little squire. It's just like, it's like a buddy cop movie. Yeah, no, we're definitely going to get into it. We're finishing up some other things first. We're trying to go bit by bit. All right. Well, this is the love of the conversation with Nathan Faxon, who's probably flying high right now because the old fucking Patriots, congratulations on your, it's been a long time since you've been to the Super Bowl. Yeah, he's got season three of Lute coming out. Yeah. Might know him from directing the Way Way Back downhill. What an Oscar for writing the descendants. If you remember, there was a moment with him, his writing partner, Jim Rash, were on stage and Angelina Jolie and Angelina Jolie had her leg cocked out to the side. It was like clearly what you do in that dress. And then it was so funny to have Nat Faxon and Jim Rash behind her and one of them cocked their leg the exact same way. And then the other one did. And it's a really, really fun moment from the Oscars that always sticks in my brain. All right. Well, enjoy the conversation. Thanks for listening, everybody. Yeah. Yeah. What's up, dude? There we are. What's up, guys? How are you, brother? It's very nice to talk to a fellow New Englander right in our age zone. Right? I mean, real good. And the Patriots are winning. Well, now we have to jump in and burst your bubble. Yeah, we're not. Oh, no. We don't care for the Patriots. I hate the Patriots more than any team in sports. Okay. How do I end this? I just hit end, right? It comes. Be a good winner. I'm allowed to be a bad loser. You have to be a good winner. End session now. Our dad's from Pittsburgh, so we're Steelers fans. But love the Celtics. Love the Red Sox. Okay. But the Patriots is just... Yeah, that was the one. And no one dislikes the Patriots more than our mother, who is just like sending texts. Who's the truest New Englander of the four of us, because we aren't born into England, but she's from Marblehead. Oh, that's like right around the corner from where I grew up. What town are you from, technically? Well, I lived in Marblehead until I was four. Oh, wow. And then I moved to Manchester, which then became Manchester by the sea, Massachusetts. Oh, yeah. And if you've seen the movie, only fun, wonderful things happen in Manchester by the sea. So wait, was it really not called... When you moved there, it wasn't called Manchester by the sea? No, it was just Manchester. And then there was like, during my childhood, there was like this huge vote, like town vote on whether to change the name from Manchester to Manchester by the sea. And it was like razor thin margin. I mean, it was like 51% to 49% that it passed. And people, like there was like signs on the big brown supermarket, you know, like vote no on name change. It's amazing that a simple majority could change the name of a town. That seems like something that would need a two thirds. I know, I know. I think they were like really, they just, I don't know. They thought maybe the tourism would go up. They wanted to sort of disassociate themselves from no offense, Manchester, New Hampshire. Sure. Yeah. That's where we went to high school. So there you go. Yeah, so... That's crazy. Do you remember what side your parents were on? Because I imagine they got a vote. They got a vote. I think they were a little, they were slightly indifferent. I think they probably leaned more towards just keeping in Manchester, just to, because, you know, every time you have to say Manchester by the sea, you, a little piece of you dies inside. Well, they also burned you. Like the movie then burned you by making the saddest movie of the last 20 years. Yeah. And I will be honest, I don't think, if you hadn't changed it, they wouldn't have called the movie that. That's true. But I think also that the movie didn't totally reflect like, it's, I wouldn't say it's like that blue collar mashed town that, that like the movie is trying to depict it as, you know. Yeah. Right. I mean, there's certain elements of Manchester that are, but there are also some very like nice, you know, upper class kind of sections of it that. Well, I know that's true because more than half of you wanted to add on the sea. That's right. That's right. Yes. By the sea. You know, you know who... By the sea, yeah. Yeah. You could see where that, yeah. There's not a lot of like Joe Lunchbox is being like, how come the town don't say where we're from? I don't know why I'm making New Yorkers, but... But yeah, I mean, our mother being from Marblehead, you know, we went there a lot and that is, that's a pretty Tony town as well. But you also get just the best accents. Yeah, you do. Like the accents. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the accent makes people think, oh, this has to be more blue collar. And it's like, no, no, no, the accent just comes with the territory. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe from any sort of financial background. Yes. Yes. It's like in the water or something. Yeah. It's like you drink the water and then you get that accent. Or you live on the water maybe and then that's also what else. But you don't seem to have the accent. No, I never totally did. I mean, if I, I didn't really ever have it. I mean, when I, I sort of like fake it if I meet other like tough Boston people, I definitely fake like I have it. But I don't... Do you say wicked? I don't really say wicked. No. Did you, do you think like back in high school? No, I, we said a lot of like, when we were growing up, there was basically like two words that were always said, which were lit and hurt. And you were, you were, you were either lit or you were hurt. Like you were one or the other. That just completely missed us. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't have that at all. We have lit up. It's around now. We have, yeah. No, it was like, oh dude, I went out last night, I got super lit. Yeah, dude, I'm hurt this morning. Oh, you got lit? Yeah, I'm hurt. Oh, we gotta get lit so we're not hurt. Like it was just, you know, back and forth. Yeah. Lit is in terms of drunk, I do recall, but lit in terms of like we went out and it was lit. Yeah, no, that was not the meaning. That was not the meaning for us. Not to bring it back to a Manchester on the sea, by the sea. I keep getting it wrong. Is there a Manchester on the sea too? We should do, we should rename our Manchester. Manchester on the river. We have a river. We do. Manchester by the sea. So I, we did that thing once on our show called Boston Accent, where we just did how everybody does. And I, it was a lot of bro, which I felt was the way people in Boston talked. And when Casey Affleck came on the show, he goes, there's only one thing you got wrong. It should have been kid instead of bro. Yes, kid. And I don't feel like we used kid in Manchester, New Hampshire. Do you, Josh? No, I mean, I feel like maybe the older, cooler, tougher kids would call us that. Yeah. Yeah. But this was like, I kid is like, as just a nickname was never, never caught on. We had that a lot. Like we did a lot of kid. It was like, what up, kid? It's such a, you know. It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Kachava. Hey, Balje. Hey, Sufi. I'm, you know what I got for a goal in 2026? What's up? I'm going to try to set a personal best in a 5k this summer. Oh, that's a good goal. See if we can do it. I bet you can. Yeah. You might need a little help along the way. I, you know, I'm turning to Kachava because it is a, it's very helpful. Yeah. Because Kachava does two things for me, Pashi. One, energy. It's got five key vitamins and minerals. 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Right, no. But I think everybody else does. I think they think you were like a serious fuck-up as a kid. And you had to be sent away to get reformed. Were you excited, did enough kids go that you were excited about going? Yeah, I was though. I was really young. I mean, I was, I had an, I have an October birthday, so I was late for everything. So I was 13 when I went to boarding school as a freshman in high school. And I was like, I had not gone through puberty. I was like this high-voiced child. And I think, I have kids now, and I think about sending my kids at that age. It's like astonishing. I'm like, what were my parents thinking? I was like, I was like a toddler. I mean, I just, there's like, you know, and you're, because you haven't gone through puberty, I mean, you're around like men essentially, who are like 18, and then you like go in the shower, and you're like, don't look at me. Would you, once you went to boarding school, would you go like home on weekends, or were you kind of like you were there? I was kind of there. I went to Holderness School in New Hampshire, in Plymouth. And yeah, so it was probably two hour drive to go home, or two hour drive to get to Boston. But I mean, you grow up quickly. Like you, you would, I would like go with friends, like take the bus down to Boston, and like go to Boston for the weekend. And then, you know, so I felt like by the time I got to college, I was like, oh, I'm like, I'm a grown man. Like I'm an adult. I know like everything, and I can do everything. You know, it's like a quick education on just sort of like getting older and sneaking around, and doing all the things you shouldn't do at an early age. Did then college just feel like, not a breeze, but like there probably was no anxiety pre-college. I've got the, yeah. None at all. I mean, I remember like showing up, and my, I was in a quad my freshman year, and my like my, my room, one of my roommates was, I think from Nadek or Nahaat or something. And he was like this big, huge like football player, nicest guy ever, and, but was like incredibly homesick. You know, the first six months of school was just like in his, in the room, just like sad, calling his parents, you know, and I was like the first night I was like, who's got the fake ID? Let's get beers. Let's go. You know. I mean, I always felt that way. I didn't know many boarding school kids in college, but I, that was for me every kid who was from New York College. Yeah. The ones who were like, what? This is, you know, and we were, again, Josh and I both went to Northwestern, and all the New York kids were just like, just so you guys know this place sucks. We're like, what? This is the most freedom we've ever had. And it's like, yeah, it sucks. And it sucks that we're here. Yeah, yeah. How much older is your sister? She's two years, two to two and a half years older. Yeah. All right. And were you guys close growing up? We were. We're very close. Actually, today's her birthday. Happy birthday to my sister. Happy birthday, sister. Yes, we are. Yeah, we were very close and still are. It's just like, sadly, geographically, it's hard. She's in Wilmington, North Carolina, and I, I mean, I'll LA. So we don't get to see each other as much as we would like, but no, we were very close growing up. And yeah, yeah. And she also went to boarding school. She did. She went to, she went to an all girls boarding school and then had like a terrible experience. And then transferred to Holderness when I went. So we both went to Holderness like I was a freshman. She went as a junior the same year. Great. That's nice. Yeah, it was great. It was great. And we both had a terrific time there. And yeah, came out of it. Nice. Yeah. When, what did your parents do? My father was a cardiologist. He's still alive, but no longer practicing. And my mother was in advertising for a while and then kind of homemaking. Homemaking? Yeah. Do you say homemaking? Yeah. I think that works. You can say, yeah, homemaker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then what was your, what was the typical sort of vacation for the Faxons? We did a lot of skiing. We did a lot of ski trips. Yeah, we went to, you know, all the northeast, you know, the sugar loaf and the sugar bush and stow and, you know, even the like closer like Waterville Valley and O'Kee-mo. O'Kee-mo was my favorite. O'Kee-mo was great. Yeah, we loved O'Kee-mo. Yeah, soft spot. It was great. Hearts for O'Kee-mo. Yeah. Cannon. And then once in a while we did like bigger trips to the west coast. And yeah, I remember one year we went with my, our cousins. My, they were, my mom is a twin sister and they lived in Bedford, New York. And we were very close with them growing up, like spent all our holidays and stuff, you know, going to their house or they would come to our house. And we flew out to Sun Valley, Idaho for like a big, you know, ski trip with the eight of us. And somehow on the plane ride out there, we had, you know, two condos next to each other, one for the one family and one for their family. And we somehow on the plane ride, to convince them to, that we should have a kid's condo and an adult condo. And so they, I think we're probably just like, just as psyched as we were. And they're like, great, sounds awesome. Yeah, you guys are over there and we're over here. Yeah, I mean, how old are your kids now? My kids are, I've got a 17 year old, a 17, 15 and 12. And I mean, I would imagine that's the age. Wouldn't you let, wouldn't you trust them in their own condo at this point? If it was a Jason. Yeah, I think I would. I think I would. Yeah. And there, and we were probably, you know, my older cousin, Josh, and, you know, my sister, my other cousin Liza, and then me and we were, so we were all about four years apart. So I want to say like, I was probably like 12 and Josh was probably like 16 or 17. And so that was like sort of the age span. And my parents like went along with it. But again, I was still like pretty young and very, you know, had not gone through puberty still. Guys, I was a very late bloomer. Well, you were only 12 at this time. When did it, just for our listeners, when did it eventually happen now? That was 17, I was 17. Right before he got to college. So let's get the fake IDs. Yeah, thank God. Thank God it broke when it did. Yeah, but I was, I was still really young, but I remember it being sort of like a a momentous trip in the sense that it was the first time that my older cousin, who was like a brother, sort of treated me like an equal ish, you know, like I was no longer like just this young sort of like kid. I was, oh, he can hang and we'll go do stuff, you know, but I still, you know, I was still young. I mean, I still like had a blankie. I mean, I was like, you know, I was on this trip, sadly, blankie died on this trip. So that was traumatic. How did blankie die? The cleaning people, the cleaning people, I wish there was a better story, but the cleaning people, they just like took all the sheets, you know, and took them away. And they're like, you're too old for a fucking blankie. You sad child. Did you look forward to skiing? Yeah. I always, I still do. I mean, I just, I just got back from Mammoth last night. We did a, oh, nice. My daughter does like a, they organized like a dad's and daughter's trip. And so we just did that. But I still, I still really enjoy ski trips. I think my dad was a big skier and he always forced like winter vacations, as opposed to sort of warm weather, you know, spots. Cause I think he always felt like, what am I, I don't know, there's nothing to do. You know, I sit on the beach and then, or I sit by the pool. He didn't seem like one that was wanting to relax and just like read a book and do nothing. He was always sort of more like activity based. It is a trap cause certainly I would rather be on a vacation where there's nothing to do. But then you realize like once you have kids, there's no such thing as nothing to do. Like and, and skiing, like it's amazing how like gravity just takes over. Yes. As a parent. Yes. And I, so I totally get the appeal. I see where your dad's coming from. Yeah. That's the structure I think of like waking up and making breakfast and then going out on the mountain and having like a full day of something to do, tire everybody out and then come home, you know. But I, so I still, I sort of have carried that with me. Like I, I would so much prefer going to like a ski thing than I would. And your, your California kids are all skiers? They are. Yeah. They, they are the, the older two. I stuck in ski school forever, you know, cause I was like, I'm not wasting my day parenting you and training you as a skier. So I was that terrible dad that didn't, you know, have zero pay. I had zero patients for my kids learning to ski. I was such a dick. But so I put them in ski school and then when they got like good enough, I was like, great, let's go. Like let's hit the mountain. But my third kid got a little shafted because I, she didn't want to like be in ski school by herself necessarily. And so we just tried to like, you know, we kind of just bring her along, but she didn't get quite the proper training, I think is the other two. So now she's just lagging behind and we're like, you know, we ridicule her. I will say, I don't blame you for, I don't feel like you were shafting your kids by putting them in ski school. They're going to teach them better than you are. Yeah. I mean, it's like any probably sport, right? I mean, the kids like, they also listen, they listen to strangers more than they listen to parents. Yes. Yes. It's, it's, it's healthier, I think probably for all involved. My son went on a like a organized ski trip with his school and I was actually visiting Josh for his birthday. So I couldn't go, but I went and picked him up that night and he called me and he's like, I went off the side of a cliff and I'm like, haha, I'm sure. And then I showed up and like nine different parents are like, do you hear, I just went off the side of a cliff. I was like, what? I guess he just like went off the side. I mean, again, it was like, it turned out it was like a 45 degree angle. Yeah. Once went off, but like, they're like, yeah, no, he was like at the bottom of a gully. Yeah. Totally fine. But I'm like, my God. And that is, I mean, I cannot believe now that when we were growing up, we were skiing without helmets. I know. I know. It is crazy. Because helmets existed. I know. You know what I mean? It wasn't like nobody, nobody thought of helmets yet. And it's so funny. It is so funny. I know. I was just talking about that also like the, and just the outfits like I wore, like I wore because my, I wore them on my dad wore because that was all I knew, which were like, like those like tight, really tight like stretch pants with like the, with the pads, you know, like as if I was going to be like crushing gates or something, you know? Like, but, and they were like not what, there was no like, maybe it was before like Gore-Tex was around or something, but they would get soaking wet. I mean, it was like crazy. Yeah. And you would lie down the mountain. I would say when Gore-Tex got invented, it's all our dad wanted to talk about for like the next two years. The, it's those things in cars that you can put like weather tech I think is like those things that you can put in place of your floor mats and your cars. It's like, you just take them out and hose them off. Yeah, I talked to him. This is a lie. If you want to, if you want more on that, we can get you on the phone with our dad. Yeah, that'd be great. That'd be great. We had, I will say like, I hadn't skied in like 20 years when our kids started going to ski school. And the first time I went out, I didn't know like you were a literal crazy person if you weren't wearing a helmet. Yeah. And so I was skiing without a helmet and I got a text message from a friend who said like, my son just called me to say he saw you without a helmet on and wanted me to text you and tell you to go buy it. And like, this is like, by the way, like a 13 year old kid like was like, hey, I think Seth Meyers doesn't know what time it is as far as like, and I was like, oh right. I had to go buy a helmet. Yeah. I didn't have one for a long time and my friends finally bought me one because they're like, you're being an idiot and we're going to just pitch it. But they're like, they're comfortable and they're warm. And that's the other thing. There's no downside. No, there is not. Yeah. No, there's not. I know. I feel like there were no, I mean, it was like not wearing a car seat, I guess, the same sort of idea is that there was no, it was like safety third, you know, or last at all. I mean, we did, we did one trip. We did one trip, you're talking about like going off a cliff and reminding me like we did one big like Europe trip when I was a kid to go skiing and we went to, I forget. It was like a mountain that where you can go into like another country or what, you know, like it was like bordered like France and Italy. And my sister and I like went the wrong way and then ended up like in Italy and then had to like figure out how to get back to France. It was like when I was like, oh, and then we just did and we didn't have phones or anything. You just kind of like, that was literally going off the side of a cliff and ending up in another country and then you make your way back. But yeah, that's very cool that you did that as kids. Yes. Like going overseas to ski. It was very cool. I know. I look back on that thinking like, oh, I should do more of that for my kids. I won't, but I should. You should. You won't, but you would like, it's cool that you know you should. I've heard that it is almost cheaper. I've heard that it is cheaper. I think it's way cheaper. To fly, to buy the tickets, to fly to Switzerland, France, Italy. And then you get there and buy all the lift tickets there than it is to go skiing here. I totally buy that because hotels are cheaper. I had a friend who was in Jackson Hole for New Year's and they had a seven-year-old girl and they looked to get her a private lesson. And it was going to be $1,100. Wow. I mean, that's insane. I don't know how they can continue because like lift tickets are now, somebody said the other day like they went to somewhere like Deer Valley or something in Utah and the lift ticket was $330. Yeah. That's, I, we ski at this real classic New England tiny mountain. Yeah. Which is called Mohawk. Oh, love it. It's, but it's great. It's everything I want for, you know, because my kids are, you know, nine, seven, four, perfect. Yeah. Everything you need. And, but I was skiing with my daughter and so it was just that thing of like getting her through the gate and, and my, me through the gate. And so I put, which I'd never done, I put my ski pass in my, the back of my glove. Yeah. But it, against my hand, I didn't have like a slot for it or anything. Yeah. And, but then we got to the top and her hat wasn't on right or helmet strap was off. So I take off my thing and then we get to the bottom and we're like, Oh, when I took my glove off, the, my pass fell out. So we had to go in the lodge. Fortunately, she had to go to the bathroom anyway. And so we go in and I walk up and I explain, I'm like, Hey, so my pass fell, I took off my glove and my pass fell out. And this woman just goes, Oh my God, are you nine? And it was like the fairest burn. Like, by the way, not with a big smile as she was getting me a new one, but I didn't feel a real, I'm like, Oh yeah, that's a real like nine year old. Like, I took my glove off. I was thinking of burns for you on that, but I'm glad that I didn't have to come up with one. That's a good burn. IRL got you. Somebody who, yeah, definitely has had it happen more often than not. And it's usually a nine year old. Yeah. Yeah. Was that, was that European trip? Did you stay in sort of like a classic Alpen village kind of a place? It was awesome. It was so cool. It's very, it was like story book, kind of, you know, the whole experience. I remember even being, I remember thinking at the time of like, I would like to come back here when I'm old enough to like drink and party because this is like the appareil scene is so fun and it looked, and again, I was probably 12 as I'm always 12. But I was like, I was like very jealous of like everybody like, you know, big steins of beer, you know, and I mean, I have been, I will say like, I have gone back and I did, I did, you know, like fulfill that dream that I had as a kid because I remember thinking like, that's so cool. And so later I did go back and do that because the appareil scene in Europe, I think is maybe the best there ever. I mean, there's no beating that in appareil, in the appareil world, like they nail it. I mean, they, Well, I mean, they use, we're using their word. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's fair. Where did you, what resort did you shoot downhill? We were in a couple of different resorts. We were started in Fis, which is like a really quaint, beautiful, like Austrian town, a little more family friendly. And then about halfway through, we went to Ischgl, which is like, they call it the Abyss of the Alps. And their slogan is relax if you can. It's like a threat. And that was, I mean, yeah, talk about appareil. I mean, they would, you know, their schedule was essentially like, wake up, ski till whatever three, and then just, you know, shots of Jaeger, you know, Stein's beer, like from, and then they're all in the town and they're all like singing all German songs. Everybody knows all the words. And they're basically like parting so hard. And then at around like seven or eight, it kind of like, you know, after about four hours of that, it clears out because I think a lot of the hotels, like in their package, like dinner is included. So then they go to like a very like quiet, formal dinner in their hotel from like eight to 10. And then 10 o'clock, like down to the basement, to the club where they party till like four AM. And then they wake up and they just do it all over again. And I would say it was probably 93% male. I mean, it is all dudes, you know, like, and they are German and Dutch and, you know, Russian and, you know, they come from everywhere. They go there. I mean, there is a McDonald's in them on the main street and the McDonald's has a strip club in the basement of the McDonald's. I can't believe Europe is the first place to have a strip club in the basement of McDonald's. I can't either. Yeah. I mean, it was a kind of a genius idea. You got everything you need. That's what we should try to get back. You know, fuck Greenland. We need to go get that McDonald's and strip club. I mean, obviously you were directing a movie when you were over there. So you weren't partaking, but did you like ski those mountains? Did you have time to do that at all? Yeah, I did actually because there was obviously like a bunch of, we were there for a while, probably four months. So there was a lot of prep time. So we skied a ton. And smartly, like a couple of times, you know, Julia, Louis Dreyfus, her husband came out and he got a guide up for a couple of days and invited me to go. And that was like phenomenal because, you know, the skiing over there, like there's really very little markers or boundaries. There's not like, you know, there's no like, don't go here. That's out of bounds. It's like, go there and you end up either in another country or you're never found again kind of thing. And so having a guide, they basically take you to just areas of the mountain that you would never know to access without them. And the skiing was like incredible. I mean, it was so good. We also had great snow, so that helped. But yeah, it was so fun. But I would, I would also, when we were shooting, I would, we would shoot a lot on the mountain. And so I would bring my skis just so that at the end of the day, like we had to stop when it got dark at, you know, when the mountain closed at four, basically it was like sort of the day was over. And so then I would take one run all the way down, you know, just at the end of the day after shooting. And it was kind of like the best. It was like my favorite moment of the whole day. And that feels like something you'd hear in like a documentary about like a, you know, a German filmmaker from like the 50s. And like, as any of the day, he would ski down to him. I know, I know. I thought I actually was going to die. There was one time I, like, they, because then they start grooming the mountain, like at that time. And I was flying down and came over this knoll. And there was like a humongous like snowcat, like grooming, you know, machine that was coming off the mountain that I did not see. And I, yeah, I was like, I thought that was going to be the end of me. Like American director dies in a tragic way by snowcat. It is also like that. Everybody is allowed to be a little mad too when they find out that at the end of the day you were skiing home. I know. I know. I know. Yeah, exactly. I don't feel that bad for that weird. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Marley Spoon. Hey, bossy. Hey, Sufi. You, I'm very impressed with the way you meal plant, because sometimes it's very hard. Your life gets so busy. You don't have time to do it. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I, you know what it, why I've turned to Marley Spoon. Yeah. They help. 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My sister, my sister lived in Park City for about nine years after college and became like a terrific telemark skier, which is like, you know, essentially cross country skiing like Alpine style. And my mother was a beautiful skier, but a little more timid, you know, she liked a very like, you know, she was a little more conditioned based, I think like a sunny day on a nice blue, you know, intermediate trail that had been groomed, you know, anything over that. And we made the mistake of, you know, a couple of times like taking a wrong turn. And she was, she's very stylish. And the outfits were sort of like the best part to her about skiing really. That was like, it was, so she always had these like, you know, these like this big 80s kind of like suits, you know, like they were like Bögner suits and with like a fur on the collar, you know, just like one disease we're talking onesies. Yes, like a big one piece. But they were also like, they were so the material was like so slick. So if you God forbid you fell like you were not stopped for for hundreds of yards. I mean, it was just like a sled going down the hill. And so there were a few times where she got, you know, we took her down like a black or something and she got very nervous, you know, and then like sort of, you know, that's like the worst way to skis like on your heels and, you know, tentatively, and then she would like fall down and then just slide all the way down. And then we would sort of have, you know, be looking up and she would just be there and her like, you know, green Bögner suit like sprawled like hugging the mountain like screaming, screaming at us like, why did you take me down this? You know, what have you done? You know, and then we're at the bottom all looking up at her going like, oh, shit, you know, and then hiking, you know, taking off her skis hiking all the way up, you know, to like get her skis back on, you know, so it was, yeah, she was, but she's a beautiful skier. She's just like, likes a very, you know, gentler slope. My speaking of outfits, Alexi, my wife just bought me a new ski outfit, which she had me try on in the apartment when I came home last night and I put it on and she just looked at it for a minute and she goes, yeah, maybe you're just not supposed to ski. That's what she, that was her takeaway from how it looked. By the way, it did look, because she's like, you, I want to get you something cooler and like the minute I put on something cooler, I did look like a dude who was like, I don't know, like watched one YouTube video about skiing and was like, I think I got it. Well, now I need to know what that was. It was good. It was like a cool outfit, but she's right. She's like, what's wrong with the shape of your body? She's like, it's too tight here. It's too loose here. Just don't be a skier. I know. Maybe we should go back to like, at Mammoth's weekend, I was so happy because I saw one dude just crushing jeans, you know, with the gators, the jeans, like probably like an old CB jacket, you know, no helmet, just like a, you know, a hat that just went like a pyramid up on top of his head. I mean, the only thing he was missing was like bandanas on the ski poles, which is what we used to do. Oh, that's a good look. Yeah. But he was like, he was having the best time, he was having the time of his life. Yeah. And I was like, I don't know, maybe that's better than these weird ski outfits that don't fit our bodies. Were you, were you hot tub people? Were you a hot tub family? Yeah. Love the hot tub. Love the hot tub. Yeah. And were you, when you were a kid, would you like get out and lay in the snow and then get back in the hot tub? Yes. Yes. Always. Always. I still will do that. I still do that. It's so fun. It's so fun. I don't know what you're talking about. You get that burn when you get back in? Yes. Yes. I know. And just like, you know, inevitably, like it's usually, you know, we would stay at like places where it was like communal hot tubs, you know, so inevitably you are staying in, you're like sitting awkwardly close because there's things are always kind of not quite big enough. And so you're just sort of jammed like leg hair to leg hair next to some dude. And just kind of quietly sitting there trying to make it not awkward, but it always is a little tight. I remember when we were in Austria, we would go to the, they were more sauna people, you know, it was, it was more about the sauna than the hot tub in Europe. And they, you know, they were, they were never wearing anything at all. I mean, it was nude every place you went, like in the sauna, you were nude. If you were like stepping out of the sauna, I'm going to take a cold shower, you were nude. And it was all, you know, co-sex, like either sex. Why can't I say that? I don't know what the word, co-sex. Yeah, it's co-sex. All gender. And I remember taking my like my little girl and she was like, can we go to the hot room, which is what she called the sauna. And I was like, yeah, let's go, you know. And then we just went in there and there was just, you know, boobs and penises and everybody was just like hanging out, like casually talking. And she was like, this is not what I wanted to come to. Why did you take me here? And I was like, well, and I also, I remember there was another time where the RDP was in the sauna. And I, you know, it's sort of like steamy when you go in and I had a towel wrapped around my waist and I was like, you know, kind of go in. And he was just fully laying down, like full, fully naked. And then he sort of sat up and then we sort of like made eye contact. And I was like, oh, Danny, hey, you know, and he set up like totally comfortable, not caring at all. And was like, you know, that was a great day today. You know, we, I thought we got the shots, you know, but all the while like he's naked and I'm like trying to be professional and be like, yeah, no, I thought, you know, but you, it's just like, it's weird. It's weird to like work with people and then talk about the work when you're have no clothes. Yeah. We, because we, you know, Josh and I lived in Europe for a little bit and every now and then some of you like, let's all go to that, you know, spa. Yeah. I was always like, I feel like if we'd grown up in Europe, I could go to a spa with all you people. I know, I know. I'm not down for it. I know. What they're so it's like so normal. Yeah, no judgment. I'm just like, I'm just not ready for it. I'm not either. I'm so like fearful of it. I, I lived in Santa Barbara for a little bit and they, I lived with this couple and they had a hot tub in their backyard and it was like an elevated hot tub, like a big like sort of like one of those old like barrels basically that kind of like came up out of the ground with like a little platform to like get in. So you kind of were low when you were in it looking up and they were all be these like, you know, really cute like, you know, UCSB girls that would be like in the hot tub and they were like, and the rule of the hot tub was like no bathing. It was like a naked hot tub thing. And so they'd all be like, oh, Nat, come on, come on the hot tub. You'd be like, yeah, yeah. And then you would have to like literally like take off your clothes like while they were all looking up at you. And you'd be like sticking your leg in like, I'm sorry, if I, yeah, if I could just get in that little area over there, excuse me. That's no, that's no dude's best naked angle from underneath. No, it is very true. Nobody's getting their headshots. And then it's like, and then just one where you're on the ground and I'll take my pants off. Get me while I'm doing it. Yeah. And I'm like the sad, I'm like, I'm thankful I don't have like a ton of like back hair or something, but I do have a generous amount of leg hair. And so therefore it's just, that's even worse. Like no girl wants to look up at a lot of leg hair from a low angle. Well, also those legs are going to come down in there. That's the first thing you see is coming by you is like, all right, here's this foot and then whoa, what's all this? It's just brushing against their face. Before you talk about it, the more I'm thinking, they said, Nat, come in just the one time. Yeah, I learned my lesson. I literally would then, you know, rush home from work or something or, and then I would just get in that hot tub like immediately so that I was the first person there and I would wait hours just until everybody else was ready to come in so I could not be the last guy in. I do before we let you go, you're so funny on loot. Oh, thank you. I'm so jealous that you are currently working with Maya. I know, I know. Did you know her back from the groundlings? Yeah, yeah, we knew each other. We sort of came through the groundlings together. So we were in the Sunday company together, this sort of, you know, level right before the main company. And so we wrote a lot of terrible sketches together that were bombs, but we're so fun. And so yeah, it's like doing, you know, a show with like your oldest, you know, one of your oldest best friends. It's very easy and comfortable and adore her. So that's fantastic. Yeah, you guys are great together. I'm also, I had to look it up while at the beginning of this interview. Yeah. This puzzle for me has been solved that has been driving me crazy genuinely for years, which is Roger Angel, who is a great sports writer, wrote a famous essay about Carlton Fisk's home run against the Reds in the 1975 World Series, famous home run. And hold on, I want to make sure I get this right because I was always like, but there aren't five because of course it happened. And it talks about how people were going crazy all over New England. In Wayland, in Providence, in Revere, in Nashua, and in both the Concords and all five Manchester's. So, but then I knew there were only four Manchester's and now I found out that when he wrote that, there were five. And then you guys- Wait, really? Yeah, well, there's five- Well, because I knew New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, England, I guess, can you count that? Or you're just- No, I think it's, I think there's a, so there's a Manchester, Vermont. Yep. There's a Manchester in Connecticut. Oh, right. Okay. Is there a main Manchester? There is a, and we can have this. There's a Manchester in Maine. So there you go. There's a Manchester in Maine. There's five, there were five. And I was like, what's the fifth? And now I know. It's because when he wrote it in 1975, that was before you guys, when did you switch it? Got it. I mean, probably 80, I would think, like in the 80s, probably mid-80s. Well, yeah. Thank God. And if Seth has his way, they're going to change it to Manchester on the scene. Well, you should now, so people don't associate you with that bummer of a movie. I know, it's true. Which is genuinely a great movie. I don't want to be like, don't tell you Manchester on the scene. But apparently, I think Kenny Launardin, like, pointed at a map and like, that was how he decided on that town. Like, I don't think it was, like, there was very little like connection to, it was just like, that'll work. That's so funny. Kenny is such a great writer. It's so funny to me that he's like, just bring me a map and I'll point at it. I know. Like, I would be like, he's so, like, I would never think he would have a single like, a cheap moment and how he chose his language. Right. Right. And then I'm just going to put my finger on it and then I'm going to name the entire movie after that. That movie was almost named Panopscat. Panopscat did not do as well during award season. No, it did not. By the way, I can't believe it. And now I'm realizing you also, do you think you write movies based on, on where you want to spend it? Because you also did descendants. So you got to go to Hawaii. Yes. I mean, I can't believe you guys got away with this twice. I know. I know. I feel like Adam Sandler in, I sort of set that bar and then I was like, well, he's doing something great. So let's keep doing that. Yeah. I would, I would like to continue doing that because I don't know, shooting a movie in some cool place is the best. And where was the, and where was a way, way back? That was like South Shore of, of Massachusetts. So we were in Marshfield or the little like hamlet of Green Harbor, which is sort of like part of Marshfield almost. And then the water park was in Wareham. Okay. And so we were, yeah, between the two, but that was a little bit, that probably could have been anywhere on the East coast really, I would think. Like, you know, it, it, it worked out very well for us. I mean, for me, because that was sort of like my childhood, it was a lot going to the cape and stuff like that. So it felt very reminiscent of that, but a lot of it was due to Steve Carell, whose family has a place in Marshfield. And we went to him and he wrote us a very nice letter, basically back saying like, I love this. I, I can't do it because my family, you know, it's like summer and it's when I spend time with my family and I, you know, and thankfully his agent sort of sighed, you know, texted us essentially and was like, I think this is a little bit of a soft pass. Like if you, I think you might be able to get him, you know, and so then we wrote him back and we're like, totally understand what if we shot like right down the street from where you summer, would that make a difference? And we'll get you out really fast and you can walk to work. And he was like, all right, yeah, then I'll do it. And so that was, that was sort of like why we ended up there. But I like that for anybody who's listening who's wondering why movies get made where it's a, where does Steve Carell live and where did Kenny Launders point? Exactly. So much thought goes into it. So much thought. It's been so great talking to you, Nat. It's been so great talking to you guys. Before you go though, Josh is going to hate you with the speed round. Oh, shit. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Adventurous. What is your favorite means of transportation? Train. If you could take a vacation with any family alive or dead, real or fictional other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh, I would like to take a vacation with a very wealthy family. Yeah, somebody who's very rich who can really, or I feel like Julia Louis-Dreyfus goes on very cool vacations. I would like to go with her. We've talked to her and she'd be great. Yeah. And which is weird for you because she notoriously has very little money. Yeah. Because you want someone wealthy. That fits both wells. It checks a lot of boxes. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My immediate family or just any- Extended or immediate? Your pick. I can't say one of my kids because now that'll live forever in infamy. I would say maybe my sister. Okay. Dream destination for a family vacation? I want to go to- I want to ski in Japan. So I'm going to say- I would say Japan. Great. And you are from Manchester by the Sea. If you had to get more families to come and visit Manchester by the Sea on the heels of that movie coming out, trying to write the ship to get more families to come by, how would you pitch that town? I would say- I would say a quaint New England town literally by the Sea. On it. Also on it. On it. With a beach that sings. It is literally called singing beach. And when you shuffle your feet, it sings. I mean, it's not a great song, but it's sort of like a- Don't sell it short. That was a great song. All right. And then Seth has our final questions. Nat, have you been to the Grand Canyon? No. Do you want to go? Yes and no. Yeah. So no. I mean, I do to say I've done it, but I kind of don't. Yeah. That's a no. And thank you for your honesty. We really appreciate it. It's been lovely talking to you Nat. It's been so nice talking to you guys. All right. Look forward to seeing you around town somewhere. Yeah, absolutely. All right. See you soon. Slopes. I'm going to Mammoth this Sunday. Oh, yes. Have fun. Yeah. I wear a bright yellow jacket. So I see you later. I wear a bright orange jacket so we can flash. Yeah. All right, buddy. Thanks so much. Thank you guys. Bye. Bye. To the west coast. To Idaho. There was an adult condo. Also a kids condo. With cousin Josh met some girls. Fast, fast girls. Just a young natfax son. Such a young natfax son. 12 year old natfax son. Yeah. Sad on the couch. Started making out. Awkward making out. She took his hand said I'll make you a man. Let him to a bedroom. He was so scared. He was shaking. And he lost his dignity. Also his baby blankie. But not his virginity. This was all pre puberty. Sweet boy. Just a young natfax son. Such a young natfax son. Just a baby. 12 year old natfax son. Just a young natfax son. Just a young natfax son. Such a young natfax son. Just a baby boy. 12 year old natfax son. And to make it clear he didn't. He didn't. Didn't get his sex on.