How To Lose a Guy in 10 Days (2003)

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You'd see it would do better if you shut up your body. Yeah, right. They'd be like, oh yeah. Oh, good. I really tune in for Mike's frumpy ass. Frumpy ass. I said no. I said no. I said no. Okay. Welcome friends to the confused breakfast, the podcast where we hit pause on the chaos of today and rewind to a simpler time when it wasn't about convenience. It was about the experience. Remember the magic of a Friday night trip to the video rental store? Yeah. What does anybody remember? Wondering that I was making the big decision. R-E-M-B-E-R. Remember. Remember. We are all part of the last generation that knows the joy of the search, the smell of a blockbuster, and we're here to revisit the movies that shaped us and defined our childhoods. My name is Mike Schulte joining me as always. Two dudes who fart like howitzers. Sean Prioridge. Best line in the movie. It's the best line in the movie. And AJ Vets. I stumble though that one. It is the best line in the movie. It's great. Fart. F-A-R-T. 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Not to be confused with last week's movie, Ten Things I Hate About You, where of course talking about 2003's How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. Well, damn dang it. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for another nostalgic journey to the park. These things come in 10s. With a confused breakfast. Sit back. Come in 10s. Relax and enjoy. Come in 10s. 10 things. Where have you been? Oh, yeah. With these way boys. Love happens in 10s. Yeah. Would you say that we're so far this month, we're 10 out of 10? Well, you would say that. You could. Actually, you really could. I'll save it for my segment. Okay. And of course, you got to check us out on patreon.com. That is the place where you can support this show. We're going to keep this thing free. It's been free for over five years. Yeah. Come on. Get to listen to it. Watch it on YouTube. But if you really love the show and you want to keep us going, there's great perks there. There's cool things to interact with. Upcoming movies. Go check it out. Patreon.com. Slash confused breakfast. And you know, let's just say, let's just say somehow you stumbled on the confused breakfast for the first time today. Yeah. And you're like, what is this about? Well, I'll tell you what it's about. We'd like to look at movies from our past with a modern eye, but we believe the basis of that analysis has to come from nostalgia. And so we're going to learn and talk about what our feelings and ratings were on this movie the first time we saw it. Sean, what do you think? Back in the day? I stumbled on my mom watching this and, you know, was sitting on the couch and was kind of trapped, but watched it with her. I couldn't tell her I didn't like it. Exactly. Yeah. I thought it was fine, but I'm like a fan of romcoms and I have been for a long time. But this one didn't quite do it for me. So I'm going to give it a four because I want to watch Blade again. Four for Sean. AJ, what about the first time you saw this movie? Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen this movie before this. If you get, honestly, I think I only, you know what, I did, I saw this movie on TBS commercials. That's what I saw. I just saw the TBS commercials. I was like, I know everything I need to know about this movie. I'm good. So based on that, I'm going to go ahead and give it a strong 6.7. Nice. Strong 6.7. I'm going to call it an N8 for myself because like I'm just not sure. Like usually I don't know. And then I watch it and I go, Oh yeah, I've seen this before. Yeah. Or, Oh no, I've never seen this. I don't, I still don't know if I've seen this because it's, it is form, formulaic in a sense. Like it's got people that you know and recognize the story is not hard to predict what's going to happen. So I just don't remember if I saw it or not. I'm going to call it an N8. Okay. I should probably be an N8 too. Do you want to be an N8? I should be an N8. Okay. He's going back to an N8. So that means I can't do this off of a TBS commercial guys. You just see Matthew McConaughey jumping on the back that motorcycle and them doing something wacky in his apartment. Well, that means if we're just going off a Sean score, a four that takes it to the bottom five of any movie we've seen, nostalgically, this is better than the shining, but not as good as anaconda. Definitely. So important. That's why people, people love to know where it falls, but it's like, unfortunately, it is. The shining was not as good. Okay. So 10 year old Sean Pryor definitely barely liked this movie better than the shining. Like that's all we're learning from this. This is why it's so important. That's the best fucking thing ever. God damn it. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I messed up. We have an executive producer. Starling is with us this week. This was actually his movie choice. Yeah. See what Starling says. He says, speaking of nostalgia, I had just moved to New York City when this movie came out and it's very much a doing things in New York movies. Taking the train every day through Penn Station, seeing Madison Square Garden constantly, those images really imprinted on me and watching it on screen felt familiar in a way that was exciting and validating of my choice to move there. And while I wouldn't say I felt like, yeah, like I was a character in it, I definitely felt like I was going to get to have the same dating experiences, dates at the garden, weekends in the boroughs, lamb shank with cherry glaze, spoiler alert, I did not. What I do remember is that even though it's a rom-com, it almost felt like it was intentionally made to offer a balance for both guys and girls, which at the time felt unusual. Casting Matthew McConaughey gave it a different energy. It wasn't just about the romance. It was fun, slick, and felt a little more universal. At the time, I'm pretty sure I would have given it a nine. So that actually means with your two nostalgic scores, it moves to a 6.5, which ties it with Silence of the Lambs. I mean, it's got to. It's really the same movie as a kid. If you're thinking about it, Clarice and Hannibal Lecter is Matthew McConaughey and K. Hudson in 10 things, eight about you. Sorry, how to lose a guy in 10 things. We're doing 10 movies. Well, we're going to keep that nostalgia score in mind as we move forward. And we're going to learn more about it, talk about it more with a modern eye. Sean's going to hook us up with all the details we got to know. What do you got, man? Produced by Robert Evans and Linda Oopst and Christine Peters. Screenplay by Kristen Buckley, Brian Reagan, not Reagan. I had to look it up and Burr Steers. Yeah, that's amazing. He's from Montana. I love that name. Based off the novel by Michelle Alexander and Je-Gene Long. It's been to heart free by John Bailey. He also did ordinary people, cat people, remake the big chill Groundhog Day and the way, way back. One of my favorites. Today is Groundhog Day. Yeah. Is it really? Right now, as we're recording this, yes. I watched the whole Punx a Tony Phil thing this morning and I'm like, are you pissed? I'm not pissed. I'm just like, I got to go. I have to go. It's so weird and they buy into it so much and they have like nick names and they wear suits and they're so proud of what they do. And I'm like, I got to go. It's one of those things where you're like, televised. This is so stupid there. Well, that's what Molly said. But if you go there, I'm sure it's like amazing. Molly said, she goes, that's it. I'm like, no, that was the beginning. They are now going to party for 10 straight hours. They don't televise that. No, this was just the start and we don't get to see the rest of it. Can you imagine by the end of that time, there's just a bunch of naked old dudes with just top hats on. That's all that's happening. Like I said, I got to go. Just sipping out of, out of martini glasses. And he's just like, let's go. They probably skinned that every year they skin that thing. What is this? Music by David Newman. He also did Heather's, the mighty ducks, the sandlot, Tommy boy, jingle all the way and never been kissed. We kind of technically covered that movie a little bit. Edited by Deborah Nell Fisher, directed by Donald Petrie. He also did Mystic Pizza, grumpy old men, Richie Rich and Miss Congeniality. Good guy. Cass Matthew McConaughey. Cass Matthew McConaughey, Kate Hudson, Catherine Hahn, Thomas Lennon, Adam Goldberg. Yeah, Greenberg. Annie Parise, Michael Michelle, Shalom Harlow, Robert Klein, Beebe Neuverth, Samantha Kwan, Celia Weston and Marvin Hamlisch. Nice. Is it good? Who is Marvin Hamlisch? Sorry, I had to get that one The film was based off a book that the filmmakers describe as a stocking stuffer or 20 Xerox pages of stick figures and stories. I found this on a Vanity Fair article. This is all I could find. Makes sense. Anyway, the writers got ahold of this and liked the story about two girls going out partying, likened the story about two girls going out partying and coming up with 10 ways to detour men. The writers didn't want to want the lead woman character to come off as the way, as this way. So actually they wrote her as a just playing a character. So like doing these 10 things, the tropiness of like what guys don't like about women. They were playing that up. Originally, the script was a lot more raunchy because there's something about Mary was out and very popular. Which you will hear later on in this month. Next week. I know. McConaughey was offered the part and was walking down Sunset Boulevard when a fortune teller comes up to him and asks your thing of whether or not to do a romantic comedy, aren't you? And McConaughey said, yeah, the teller then said, if you don't do it, you'll regret it for the rest of your life. So McConaughey took the job. That's a lie. That is a lie. That did not happen to him. He could say anything. No, I know. Yeah. And I would believe it. And all he'd have to do is just say it in that tone. Yeah. And he go, yeah, that's what you did. So I did the movie. So I did the movie. By all accounts, production was very fun with Catherine Hahn saying her and Kate Hudson and Annie Parise were good buds, even sneaking off to Hudson's parents pool one night after production to party. The ending was rewritten quite a bit, but the writers say there was never a moment that the two leads weren't going to get together. Manhattan, it was just where they were going to get together. Manhattan Bridge was under construction at the time. So the production chose to shoot there rather than an airport or Annie's apartment or anything like that. We'll save those tropes for other movies. Yes. Yeah, please. Please. How to lose a guy in 10 days was released on February 7th, 2003. And on a budget of 50 million, the film made 177.5 million at the box office and has become a favorite for romcom lovers everywhere. Well, thanks, Sean. Now we got to go to AJ. He's going to hook us up with what the critics and the fans have to say about this movie before we go scene by scene. What do you got? Is that thing a dog? I don't know, but it looks like the inside of a rain jacket. It's the tomato meter. Talk about it later. That's probably my favorite line of the movie. It deliveries perfect for Matt Goldberg. 42% splat. That is a splat of any movie we've done tied with St. Elmo's Fire and Just Friends. Okay. Yeah. Okay. 77% on the popcorn meter and a 6.5 on IMDB. Coming up on 250 movies done and 6.5 ties this with So I Married an Axe Murderer and Road Trip per the fans. Rock and roll. Yep. Well, highest up on the critic reviews, Chris Colton back of the Baltimore Sun 75 out of 100. McConaughey, especially Hudson, managed to make it all work, maintaining their likability, even in situations where they inevitably end up acting like jerks. Thanks. Michael O'Sullivan gave it a 70 out of 100. This is a Washington Post. At least it's a pleasant walk with attractive people and nice conversation. That's all you could ask for. It's all you really need. Hazel Don Dumpert. Yes, that's the real one. That's my favorite. Yeah. From LA Weekly. Of course. Gave it a 20 out of 100. Directed by Donald Petrie with about as much substance and style as a ham sandwich. Hey, a ham sandwich is a ham sandwich, baby. That's right. I'll try to church it up. Just call what it is. It's a heavy hand that dims down such airy creatures as Hudson and McConaughey. Peter Travers also said 25 out of 100 from Rolling Stone. When a chick flick goes wrong and this one hits a dead end in hell, it's a wipeout. We go over to our favorite place for movie reviews. Our second favorite place, excuse me. We're going to Letterbox here. How to lose a guy in 10 days. We have a five star review here from Francesca who said crying because I'll never be a journalist in New York and have Matthew McConnay chase me on the bridge while riding a motorcycle. Check that. You never know. This is a four star. It is an all cap. I'll read it accordingly. Says I love cheesy predictable romcoms so much. Fuck me up. This one does four stars as well. Our love fern. You let it die. No, honey, it's just sleeping. They don't make movies like this anymore. Then we got, let's see. No, no, that's all right. This movie is the most accurate romcom because he thinks he's being so smooth and her and her friends are just mocking him behind his back. Sure. Pretty damn real. Let's see. Andy Anderson is extremely valid because I too would fall in love with Matthew McConnay after 10 days. Princess Sophia's supremacy. I can't believe this movie passes the bockel test. This is so cute. I want to kill myself. And then finally three, three and a half stars. What a twisted web heterosexuals weave. I like that. So guys, we're going to move on over to the two our favorite movie reviews on the internet. And those are inside our exclusive discord channel. A little bit of a boss gear but achievers sign up at Patreon guys who got NYC welder giving us a short and a sweet. I remember seeing this on cable with a girlfriend. I tried to watch it again to attempt to review twice. I like fool's gold better. It's fair enough. Caleb K. This is an absolutely perfect romantic comedy. The pinnacle of early 2000s excess with maybe the hottest people to ever lead a movie. Except for Antonio Banderas. Too adorable leads with ridiculous chemistry with an implausible plot. A surprisingly heartfelt turn halfway through. How to lose a guy in 10 days is what happens when actors take silly material seriously and bring their humanity to it. What starts as a cheesy yet warm blanket of straightforward 2000s movie logic slowly turns into an examination of intimacy. The importance of honesty and the risk of vanity. And that's not to mention the rapid fire and relatable jokes about growing a relationship with somebody and the fear that such an intimacy can spur. It's cheesy and it certainly won't win any awards. But how to lose a guy in 10 days to me is what every romantic comedy should be compared to. Above all else, it's a reminder that it's okay to frost yourself. Don't be bashful of your Princess Sophia and never be afraid to call bullshit. There we go. Nostalgic 10 out of 10 modern day rating frosted out of 10. Whoa. Was that it AJ? That's all we got. You guys made my heart full. I talked about the book that I just wrote called The Adventures of Mr. Me hours, which is about the greatest cat in the whole wide world who we recently lost. And you've heard me talk about him forever. And the response was incredible. 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Here's what I think I do episode one we ditch the microphones and cameras and just record everything on an iPhone sitting 15 feet across the room. One iPhone that's it never changes. Episode two pivot extremely hard into religion politics because nothing says movie nostalgia podcast like political projection and eternal damnation. Episode three straight up steel bits from other movie podcasts don't even bother changing the words no credits given. Episode four stick to that motto only cover movies that every other podcast has already done nothing new and original over here. Then of course start missing upload days arguing on Mike about whose fault it is sharing the pet names of each other's penises on air and by episode 10 we're shocked everyone's gone it's that easy. Nice. So yeah let's talk about a movie where ruining something good on purpose is literally the plan here we go. Scene one Andy Anderson writes articles at Composure magazine and dreams of moving on to more important writing jobs. After watching her co-worker Michelle spiral from yet another breakup Andy pitches a bold experiment she'll date a man and intentionally push him away using every stereotypical dating mistake women make. Her editor Lana loves the hook gives her a 10 day strict deadline meanwhile smooth talking ad executive Benjamin Barry works at an advertising agency. Can I ask first off this has really nothing to do with the plot of the movie but we've seen this in movies that we've covered over and over again like Batman I got it there but some other movies what what does hanging upside down do for your workout exactly. He's supposed to relieve the pressure from your spine yeah helps uncompress your spine teeter hang ups okay remember those no the old guy goes it's this easy he hangs up some I'm pretty sure that's the teeter hang up yeah I think it's a decompression thing of your spine okay because it's only shown with rich people and I know you could probably hang upside down anywhere you wanted well but to have the like the boots and the mechanism it bothers me well I can't afford that no I think rich people you could basically attest compare them to vampires yes yes okay just I think as long as you kind of have that in mind Batman was a little on the nose yeah but I get it but you know but yeah that's pretty much where it comes from that's all I had on that all right well I got something I finally found my person you know you guys know I like to pause the screen when there's newspaper articles and stuff sometimes I run out of time you know but our friend we talk about him quite a bit over on Cinema Sins he does God's work he pauses every frame reads everything this whole intro this magazine sucks guys there it says loose your belly on one of the covers LOOSE not loose yeah believe is misspelled in the title of another article and then the big thing on top says it can done instead of it can be done in an article it's just it's like AI created yeah it's like a magazine we like to think AI is doing a bet like a look how bad AI is well are they really better than what some of these humans have done before when they're really quickly trying to make magazine articles it's it's pretty bad well I'm pretty bad I like to I'm glad to know that it's not a new anomaly then because like when I read articles on on like scrolling through and you see an article you're like yeah I'm gonna click on that and you just find so many freaking typos anyways you're like people suck nowadays they just suck at writing and and everybody gets away with this and gets paid for it and then you go back you're like oh it's been happening for years yes got it yes okay that's what these magazines and it's like they go with the trope of like she's she's writing articles about girl shit and she's like kind of over that it's like yeah it's like nothing nothing I'm sorry it's like it's like it's kind of like the trope of like I'm stuck in this job that I that I really like but I want to be doing more stuff like talking about politics and stuff that really matters in Tajikistan and it's just like none of that matters like who gives a shit like and it's still not gonna matter you're still gonna be miserable doing this and the fact that she thinks that this magazine will ever let her write about this is mind-blowing to me like and this magazine I'm what are we assuming this is Cosmopolitan it's one of the most red magazines in the world and you're a featured article writer yeah yeah shut your fucking mouth do your job ten things uh that a smart woman should know about politics or something like that or like yeah you can you can turn this into several different angst you know you could you could easily work your way around this but the natural tendency is just be like I don't like it and when your boss goes you know you could either write that article I said or yeah you can lose your 200 thousand dollar a year job I'd be like just tell me what to write I'll do you like your loft in New York City yeah do you like your your friend style apartment that doesn't exist actually in New York City are you sure because now they've probably turned that like entire apartment into about like six to eight studio apartment closet studio closets is what they fucking done because that that that's what I'm saying like we can get to that part these these apartments don't exist in New York do you guys no absolutely no I don't know so we get Thomas Lennon again thank god and Adam Adam Greenberg Goldberg Goldberg why I don't believe Thomas Lennon's in every movie I Goldberg Greenberg who gives a shit he's our days and confused boy you don't know yeah oh I have a theory oh yeah he is he didn't even know he's a days there's a not a there's a lot of Greenbergs in the Goldbergs that's great Sean um but these guys are his friends and this is where like I we got Kay Hudson and her friends talking and like got her job and everything like that and then we get um McCona hey hey here and we get them talking and like there maybe 10 to 15 minutes go by and I'm like what in god's name is anybody talking about in this movie like I was like I am I fucking dumb and again like yeah but no no you're not dumb you're audience for this game okay you know why because here's the problem Sean I think you I think you have the same problem that everybody had in this scene is oh he took a shirt off oh there he is exactly and now I don't know what anybody's talking about anymore because it's like that's exactly how you're supposed to watch this movie yes is if you don't have the subtitles on then you're you're just trying to hope that they don't cover up him shirtless yeah that's pretty much it you're not listening you're not paying attention nothing it's one of those movies you just quickly have to be like just just give it to me just whatever you got like even the fact that they're like by the way there's a staff meeting in 30 minutes and then she has to leave the office travel through New York to get to friends apartment to then go upstairs to have a full blown conversation with her to then get her showered and dressed to come to work to then go back to work before the 30 minute meeting starts so yeah I was uh I was just recently in New York City right the heart of the heart of the city right downtown and I will I can promise you that anywhere that was worth traveling to for her to be able to go there in that amount of time and come back is way more worth walking to than it is taking a cast 100% if you if you every time I would pull up an uber I'd be like or like a drive to or a walk to thing it would be like oh walking oh it's gonna that's gonna be like a 22 minute walk and then you pull up driving it's like why is it a 24 minute drive the cars right it's like what the fuck it's like there's cabs every what's going on that it's completely bullshit it just doesn't even matter like and once I saw that I go you know I'm fine yeah I kind of put my phone down it's like experience this one we'll just let this one wash over us I feel like in New York they just want you to stay put you going anywhere don't go anywhere even if her apartment was like in the same building it would have taken longer than 30 minutes yeah just waiting for an elevator would have been a minute round trip can't attest and I'm telling you like this was this is the most upsetting thing and by the way not only that it was it's gonna take more than a half hour for her to get ready for work from where she's at yeah right there to what she came out I mean Catherine Han looks beautiful she woke up from a week long nap I'd be like you're gorgeous you're ready for the day yeah but but you know not her character not well to be ready for this job where it's all about glamour and all about the old the hair and ten ways I gotta fucking do my eyebrows she's like the fitness fashion consultant or that's right they gave her that title yeah shell is her character's name yes they're the her friends are the names of the original writers of the book that's a nice challenge genie here what a nice isn't that kind of fun I like that the tropes kind of sorry one more thing the tropes kind of like pile on top of each other in this because it's just like important work stuff and like both of them actually like McConaughey and Hudson important work stuff and I just have so much to do but I have an unfathomably great attitude about all of this yeah like there's no not not a strict not like sweat anywhere from stress at all it's just everything's fine and I love I love existing I just love it New York journalism and marketing is the was the first and ultimate like remote work job apparently because they're in their office is closed down immediately and when you go there they're just fun hangout pits because they've got a like a pool table in there and a bunch of goofy shit on the walls like it's a goddamn chilies are shenanigans yeah and like that's what they work in and then the women's office composure office is all beautiful perfect lighting and like flower flower deliveries every five minutes I don't know why anybody even comes in yeah because it's just they just bullshit the entire time and then I guess get writing done some other time yeah you do that on your off time yeah hey don't bring that shit to work you do your work at home okay here we talk about shit from home at work they got to go into their meeting to take their shoes off but did you see the guy still has his shoes on oh there's a white shower everyone without their shoes on and there's just a guy sitting there like this with black shoes on he's a new guy he's like shit nobody told me about the shoe thing they're tie I have to tie him he's like you know you don't really fit in here Todd it's like you know Todd no you can't no I picked these shoes out for a reason I walk everywhere like a normal person it's New York we have to take our shoes what the nobody's gonna have feet that smell good here they're all dirty was this the first Catherine Han thing that you'd ever seen because I believe so yeah I think it's her first or second movie and then of course obviously moving on to bigger like anchorman stepbrothers beyond that and so much she I'm guessing this is the first movie that really made people go oh that girl's pretty funny she's great her delivery of some lines are really good in this one she says I even told him I loved him she's like oh no Michelle how how many days was it she's like five two two just just a just a great I was happy when I saw her in this movie yeah same yeah her and Tom Lennon and it's just yeah I'm right at home what about BB newt newt Rith uh Lilith I just call her Lilith from cheers but the boss do you like her do you guys like I was trying to pinpoint where else I've seen her in that's her she's Frazier's wife in in cheers remember she was that's just how I know her she is just this character to me all the time yeah same and it's probably even like it's like somehow this character is encapsulated every time by this kind of a haircut it's always you know what I mean like it's just all all the time a condescending type of a personality yes a little bit of a yeah of an upturned nose air about her that's just like look I'm at the top of composure look yeah that's that's a metaphor only the character is perfected by uh uh Meryl Streep in oh yeah that's product absolutely thank you thank you so for the second one man this is gonna be sick all right um I like were you asking me to go to second scene no no no absolutely not I want to talk about this for a long time okay cool um she she says like the article she's writing and working on she's like how to lose a guy in 10 days and the two other bitches from um McConaughey's work right yeah are trying like interviewing or whatever for something how do I still don't know what's going on it actually doesn't really make much sense okay and one of them says oh sounds needlessly vicious and like that's actually right on yeah oh yeah this boy yeah when you really think about this movie is uh is pretty fucking sick yeah it's like on both sides yeah but it all works out in the end it all works out it's all good yeah we don't always have the best intentions maybe when we start yep but here we are we both had a bet going he's gonna have funny and charming isn't that crazy we are so alike oh my god thank god we're both really fucking hot I know yeah because if we weren't yeah this would be even more sick it helps yeah it helps it helps move things like oh it helps it's because we're hot yeah well that's gone to scene two then so Andy and her friends go out on the town to meet her victim Ben is making a pitch that's what it is Ben's making a pitch to his boss that he can take over an important diamond selling account his co-workers frame him into trying to make a woman fall in love with him in 10 days and they set him up with Andy Andy and Ben hit it off at dinner and they even go to a Knicks game the next night where Andy begins her tactics more more lines from Catherine on in this two words one of them says like gives him gives him one of the 10 things and is like call him in the middle of the night and tell him everything you ate that day and she's like what's wrong with that I'm just kidding I'm kidding of course not really but okay but it's it's very funny that actually it's also again it's just kind of sick uh that it's oh yeah I'll write about her my one of my best friends and I'll just do I'll just talk about all the shit that I know that she's doing of how to like not get guys to like thank you and she's very like thank you for saving me like what the it's again it's just it's kind of fucked up I thought it was going to come across as like Kate Hudson's character uh Andy was like uh like a lady killer but for men like she just like gets every night a different guy or something like that and so she yeah so she's like I thought she's gonna be like more like hard to lose a guy yeah I thought she's being more harsh especially to her friend like or like kind of bitchy he's like yeah you're doing it all wrong you need to forget about that stupid head you know just get another dick in you I thought it was going to be more like that and I'm glad it really wasn't yeah because they even implied that she's annoying didn't she imply that there's like a sports reporter that's been sending her next tickets and like so she's like it was initially implied that yeah she does kind of have a lot of suitors but then you never hear about it yeah it's got just perfectly available makes it makes it even more sick and twisted like there's just a guy that we never hear about that she's been leading on probably going on a couple dates probably and he's just sending these tickets to be like and and why would you just send the two tickets and be like here you go see what I can do I'm assuming she's just gonna take one of her girlfriends yeah because dude here's what happens so that that sports reporter had had the next tickets and he's like hey and they went out to eat like two nights ago and he goes listen I'm going I got this big trip plan I'm going to be gone for about 11 days I'm going to give you these next tickets I'll see you when I get back I got a really big surprise for you and then he comes back 11 days later and she's basically married to Matthew no it's 13 days later oh yeah it's like hey day 13 don't have any plans we're going to the final get that and he was like they were so together that he was going to ask her to like move in with him or something and he's like oh you're you're married it's because he wrote an article about how to lose a guy and but then you now you're married that movie only showed up on hallmark that's a great life he's like he's like this is bullshit he's like that's one of our things that's that's what we connected with you play that game too oh and then he moves back to his hometown to kind of recalibrate his life and then meets his old love flame and they have their moments yes it happens they're always writers in fucking new york you know they gotta come back to this moment of course it's gwyneth bowtro of course it's gotta be gotta be so i think i nailed down these science to uh charming like matthew mccanae okay i think it's you you say a vaguely sort of philosophical uh sentence in a um uh southern accent and then the last word in that sentence you say and then you spell out so like in days of confuses like i just love living man livian that kind of thing or like in this like the big old the big old four letter word you know love l o v e that's how you do it ah it's that's that simple he literally gets her in like 30 seconds it's c o n d s yes yeah you're supposed to end it with a you spell out the last word you said seco and yes yeah yeah uh sockered y e a h sockered seco and yes i lost it uh you guys you're gonna drink fast you're going to fast molly's been molly tries to spell out words to me that we don't want our daughters here and i'm just like what she's like p o o p i can't i can do it ish like that's fine you know you know it's funny is is what i found is you really only need to do like the first like three letters and be like yeah i got it i got don't just stop there s n a so we don't want to have any more s n a tonight and i'm good snacks yeah the shot no i say that all the time yeah i have to come myself the dogs yeah oh well they're like i just want last note on um you know just destroying kathryn hawn subtly uh or her character um it's literally 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about for diamonds for everyone it's an exclusivity of diamonds is what makes them worth money and like they literally have the job yeah and they're like no let's let this weird thing play out yeah you know what i have a great idea how to secure this account in 10 days in 10 days it's like oh so not we'd be working on it right now yeah okay whatever that's why you're right it's ready to go do we want to go on this right now or do we want to wait 10 days or whatever and because there's this big party to see if he comes up with a better idea yeah yeah no we don't no you get he's like well i could spend more time with legs and tits or whatever well and it's so i mean let's be real though this is this is all their boss right sitting at this table this is the main of all of them yes of all of them for the marketing or the ad agency or whatever i think so yeah and that means these two women are like like seducing him pretty much in the same way too just like running diamonds diamonds and i'm like yeah i mean i get it but at the same time it's like this is a really weird like fucked up triangle we got going on here and the fact that he's there he knew where their meeting was and basically he's just like hijacking the meeting to be like i'm the guy yeah i sell nerf footballs but i can do diamonds and then him just him him at the top of this chain i feel like the easiest way would have been is the next day go to whatever kind of hr you got and be like yeah we we kind of pitched him on this whole thing but i'm just not very comfortable with it i think he's got some weird thing going on with these girls and by the way he kind of looked at me weird too and i just don't i don't feel comfortable now we're and then just get him fired and you get the account yes super easy it's a way easier thing than just working 10 days through this shit instead the i think one of my favorite scenes i'd really do like the first meeting between them in this bar when he approaches them first of all it's like oh wow it's super convenient that we both have like a 10-day limit on the things that we have convenient is the perfect word and but they go they come up to each other and they're basically like one word flirting with each other like out now sushi or like whatever farts crowd yeah yeah out it's like word association yeah it is they're playing it's kind of a clever way to write this because it's just like it it it works because it's so easy because they are so fucking hot and that they both found their mark quote on quote you know that okay so i hate it but i hate i hate this part so much but you you put it perfectly to where like the reason i hate it is because this would never happen no but the fact that it's just so too super hot confident people both knowing their mark is like oh they could just stare at each other and just be like yeah yeah yeah yeah okay let's go like and they both would so that it's a good point and sorry well i was just gonna say it's this is really coming down now as i've been thinking about this uh ben is ben is like extremely dumb he's just i i honestly kind of think that is this character is just extremely dumb not only is he like coming up with the worst idea not getting this closed right away to like make his case of like no i need to be working on it now like you're saying then he comes up with a terrible idea of like the advertising no diamonds are for everyone and you're just like no it's fucking not like that's not it they shouldn't be and then he comes up with the frost yourself it's like or os t yeah why didn't you say that for s r t and like it really sells it but then then we go on these dates this like first like date we're getting out of here it's like nope jump on the back put on this goofy fucking helmet which i carry around with me then they go to a crab shack yeah and there just he's just he's just manhandling these crab legs and he's got shit all over him yeah and then like i kind of it's like is this a test for you to see if this girl is like gonna play ball i don't get it no he's just hot and he doesn't matter what he does he's like no it works every time you go you eat you eat lobster on the first night he could be eaten but no you don't but he can dude could be eating fucking beef stew in front of this woman with like shit all over me just be like ah how about it all right it's like god damn it is to eat them you she's like you know what i'm gonna suck your cock i don't know if you know how to spell but i'm gonna i'm gonna do it c o c k man actually actually wait i'm gonna go along with this him being dumb thing yeah they get to his apartment well sorry can oh yeah can i double back on the restaurant because are they out of red lobster yeah because it's like they're doing an all you can eat crab festival thing but it's a fancy restaurant there's like candles lit in the background and shit he took it he took it he's like i'm taking you to the best place in town red lobster when you're here awesome they got a crab fest going on so so only twenty dollars a person and they and they're of course there's no reds lobster in downtown new york so they like ride their bike 45 minutes to like upstate new york he's like he's like can you chip in for gas or i don't have my wallet i didn't bring any money with me so you can give him for gas or m o n e y it sure does talk you know but they get to his apartment and he he turns on hot in here by nelly yeah which apparently is his go to like well this is this would get him this is this is fucking time but then he goes wait no i don't want to fuck on the first date so he turns on al green let's stay together and so that's going to change it what nelly to al green is not a far jump if anything that made the mood even sexy exactly what are we doing here he ruined that i mean it's just he's just dumb all right let's let's keep let's keep on that train as we're gonna ride this one all the way he's just a dumb guy i mean i liked this interaction between them a lot because you can tell they both have a something what we know but the way they act is really clever in my opinion that like they both have something else in mind here but they both have a kind of a mutual goal and they're both attracted to each other yes um but i thought these interactions were really fun and i wanted more of this instead of the like slapstick she's a ditzy dumb ass later on the movie but he keeps referring to it because he he's we see that we see her at the restaurant we see her with the lobster and the crab and then and then even the beginning of the next experience is like this is great yeah and then she she turns it on yeah and that's where he's like where's this other person coming from you can tell that there is two different people but you're right like the the the regular relationship of them is pretty awesome i mean yeah i mean why wouldn't it be of course like and i guess i'm you're explaining the the plot but and it works in that way where she turns it on to like get those 10 things or whatever but um i just i i it doesn't work the whole movie for me it does get annoying it really does and i know it's supposed to be because you're a male and you watch this happen and you go god yeah but i don't know there's i hate to like be tropy about that but i don't know what do you guys think if we look at this not knowing what's actually going on the idea is always just like if you're gonna be this way just fucking end it like just if you're gonna be shitty but then you're like oh this isn't real yes it's a ploy and all that shit and you're still just kind of like this is this fucking sucks yeah like it it does it gets real real annoying real fast i don't like these movies like it just makes me just kind of cringe a little bit when there's the bad relationship going on especially when it's uh it's because i am a male and i'm attracted to females when the female is doing the things to the male i just uh like did you ever see the movie swim fan yeah dude i can't watch that movie that movie made my skin crawl at how psychopathic that girl went and this this really like when we hit next scene i i listed them all off of the things she does and it's just like it's a master class in how to lose a guy dude yeah every one of these and that's like you say it's it's just hard to remember sometimes that's the whole idea of course and then you you kind of come back and you think like i hope everybody watches this movie this way that this is supposed to be a joke that you're not supposed to be this way as opposed to look it got him it landed him like this isn't how you do it you don't just do a bunch of crazy shit so then you're like see if you could put up with my way worse than you deserve me at my best kind of bullshit it's just like no no stop that this is funny nope i don't know about you but i'm always trying to be as best person as i can well and here's the point so see i am and then there's a point where i'm just like are we sure that this is a joke because i feel like this is just how 90 of like relationships go is where he's like you're already falling in love with me and he's just like i'm gonna make you fucking kill yourself dumb piece of shit you're just like oh no that's marriage that's pretty i mean that's pretty much relationships until you figure it out the right way i woke up to a list on my fridge error this morning did that make me extremely happy no but am i gonna do it yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna do it so that we can do it yeah yeah no you're exactly right yeah there for that uh oh i don't think we watched that one there's a home improvement a halloween episode uh where where he goes he's trying to tell brad he's like brad listen sometimes men do things they don't want to do so that women will do things they don't want to do and he goes like what and jill's like yeah like what he's like shave your back hair grease an engine watch die hard for the fifth time this week fna come on yeah things guys want to do yeah hell yeah just saying man so scene three andy escalates her tactics she becomes clinging overly emotional and invasive moving into ben's apartment sabotaging pokernight and dragging him to a saline dion concert instead of a nicks game she even knocks him out during a movie and insists on couples counseling led by her own friend ben determined not to lose the bet refuses to break up with her despite the chaos so fellas there's a there's an insane list of things that she goes through in this movie i could read them all off to you but i but what i really want to know is like what's the one that that sends you over the top i've i've pre written down which ones would be the ones that would end the relationship for you but let's go through the whole thing so andy in this movie how to lose a guy in 10 days becomes clingy moves way too fast moves herself into his place takes over he asks him to leave uh the game the nicks playoff game to get her a drink during the final seconds she's talking during a movie which ends up getting him knocked out and in a fight he can she contacts his mom behind his back and begins a relationship i love you when she hangs up the phone only been dating for a couple days openly critic criticizes his masculinity and competence under the guise of honesty tricks him into going to a saline dion concert instead of a nicks game and so much more what at what point are you like fuck this bet uh um i want to say it's my mom you think so yeah i wrote down talking during a movie it'd be it'd be it's it's it'd be it'd be a strike for sure but like contacting my mom after like two days would be like all three strikes dude and it's it's aggressive it's not like i just called your mom today it's like no we've talked seven times yeah and we say i love you when we hang up i'm not even sure about you yet that's fucked yeah i'm this link you too mom saline dion concert like the trick kind of sucks yeah thinking that you're going to something but like saline dion fuck yeah dude fuck yeah it's it's the entire scene it's the entire night of them like doing dinner and stuff and having like like he cooked something really good but then she says she's a very vegetarian or vegan which is a lot gotta be a lie obviously and then going to that place and then saying like my boyfriend thinks i have fat it's just like what are you talking about what where did that come from i wrote down crying at a dinner that you made for you like because like you just you slaved away at this dinner yeah and now you're gonna cry because it's like look how good that looks oh it looks amazing and you're crying because it's uh it's animal product that i should have known this you should have told me about like how did you not tell me this yeah like there's no way no way shape by the way if you're vegan then you also wouldn't be eating crab legs yes so that's pescatarian that's pescatarian yeah yeah all right throwing it out there the the boy's night poker night thing too would really get under my skin yeah like i told you if she came to your band practice and did that i mean that's you have to sit there and listen check out the sick riff hey i don't like how much gain you have on that one you gotta go gotta yeah you have to go what do you think i just like turn it down uh what do you think my breaking point is i think yours is um i think yours is like during the game 100 yeah the soda if like i am in envisioning when i went to game six of the stanley cup finals molly didn't wasn't able to come with me uh but if she had and and during the last minute of play in a tie game had asked me to go get her drink we would be done yeah like you can't do that well and and he like goes and gets it and then has to go back out again right it's not diet it's like dude um like all i can think about is harrison is doing i'd be like no bud we're gonna get it after yeah duh it's like this is what children do and i think all concession stands close down like in the final couple minutes of the game they're like you're done get out of here yeah so like no how about we don't don't do that it's right it's this this starts to get real hard to rewatch even though you know it's a joke and it's a tactic it's it's tough and again like i i get the point of it but it does like it just it does get a little stale like the it's kind of the same joke over and over again of like the women products and his and his medicine cabinet and stuff like that's just like that's the trailer moment you know it's vagisil yeah well and there's honestly there's part of some of that stuff isn't even that bad but it his freak out over that stuff but not some of the other stuff because he's like i mean yeah he's right oh oh no no no you're just like okay i mean come on but also how about no they don't address the fact that like kate andy first of all even doing two of these things should have sent any man running yeah and is she just so entitled and thinks she's such hot shit that a guy like matthew mccanahey is gonna put up with all this like well she never addresses the fact she can't lose him yeah something's up if you're doing all this stuff when what's what's when does the red flag begin that he's not getting the fuck out it's why she picked a hot guy because hot guys don't have to put up with that shit yeah if she had picked a slouch on the street he's gonna put up with it yeah he's gonna put up with all that and go whatever and again maybe not again but i want to bring this up too his portion and in all of this is to try to get someone to fall in love with him in 10 days right i mean that's the goal for dating anyway right i mean yeah the bet part yes is is shady and fishy but like that's the fucking goal it's like here check this out i want you to date somebody and i want you to have it go somewhere exactly wait what's the catch like i guess maybe it's a little crazy that's in 10 days but it could happen i fall in love with 10 days sure hey we all been there okay and so it's one of those things that you you are you're sitting there thinking like i bet you can't get her to fall in love with you in 10 days it's like well and again flip flip it around again if it was some slouch girl off the street if it was janey briggs from fucking you know wet uh not another teen movie you know it was oh glasses and a ponytail oh and just dumbing down a girl or something and then it becomes this like then there's like a malicious bet it's like you've got to make this gorgeous woman fall in fall in love with you in 10 days is like okay i'll definitely try well and i guess too like in that aspect uh he didn't give it he didn't give it up because it was his he's in on the bet as well yes so he has to try and stay in it so that is a little shitty as well but but what you guys are saying too like yeah what if the what if he did back out and couldn't take it anymore is it in 10 days or would you have to make up the rest of the days in the article you know what i mean like if if you if you fell out on like days or less yeah yeah okay 10 days or less but why can't why can't what if what if by this point though right so now this is deep as we've gone in a movie a long time it's fucking crazy so well what do we think this is of the uh her putting all the stuff in there and then also or like the poker game maybe like the poker yeah right if poker game is day five we'll just yeah say that right so that means that day four she was kind of doing all this other stuff that's like she's in love with you looks like she's in love with you i mean it's in a crazy way apparently but she's in love with you well doesn't that mean he won his bet he though why does he have to show up at the that was that's what they said he's like boss needs to decide and we're gonna have we're gonna you need to bring the date to this party and she needs to be in love and that's the thing is like well i made her fall in love and fucking five days got her the diamonds we're done done deal right boom that's right out the big guns baby b a b y b a b y b a b why do you say why did you spell baby not g us why why not big guns no i was the last word that's okay i'm charming yeah last word all right b a b it's confusing if you spell out a word from earlier on oh you have to like go back in the sentence it's not like mathematically plausible yeah b ac k yeah next scene but she she but she is right about a few things though like uh the smoking of the cigars in the apartment yeah that's that that's oh dude fuck that having people over to your place and smoking cigars absolutely not i have i have like some cigars down in the basement or whatever that i'd like it's just like i i never smoke them inside no because i'm not a fucking neanderthal like what the hell is wrong with these guys right about that in the the imagine living above these this apartment the saline dion thing like you said shon like that's dope i when i was in college i dated a girl and her and her mom got tickets to see share at the wells fargo arena in Des Moines and they were like you're coming with us and i was like awesome yeah and i went and i'm like i i would have never seen share ever and i got to watch share and it was awesome yeah like i don't understand why you're so pissed off about this yeah i know i'm missing the next game i'm missing the big game it's like well there's sit there's four more after this man you're the one of those i don't know yeah you don't know when saline dion is gonna be back and like it's one of my favorite cuts like comedic cuts in the film but it also comes after i think it's i forget when it's after but they're like hanging out in the apartment him and her and one of my problems with the movie is that like the jokes span out to way longer than they need to and that makes the movie a lot longer it's just like the beats aren't there in certain jokes and certain like comedic punchlines but then they cut right after that to the like she builds it up like they're going to the next game and it's yeah it's really funny but it's like a karaoke version of it it's not actually hurt and like apparently it was in this it was in like this the other room of madison square garden right maybe it's the b hall so yeah so saline dion got pushed well we didn't know that the nicks are going to make it to the playoffs sorry it's like we double booked we got to put dion in the closet yeah dion you called her dion that's great adam goberg's pretty funny in this movie he had a good line where when she barges into his office and like brings the dog and the uh the matching clothes that they wear and she's like try it on he's like no no no and adam goes no you should try it on otherwise you don't know if it's gonna fit otherwise you don't know if it's gonna he's like oh man looks like the inside of a raincoat i heard that and i fucking lost it like what he what he ended up saying that he oh you're a vision and khaki dude it is so good and i also love that like they have like you have adam goberg but thomas lennon i like that they have him dressed up in like the bow tie and like the the andy bernard jackets and stuff but at the same time he doesn't lose his guy edge you know that he yes they could have played him down to be like kind of the well i'm the nervous guy and i like to do this or well i don't know i don't really have much luck with women and i don't know and just stallion it's like 200 girls man it's like no they could have totally done that but i like that they give him his chops you know like they let him kind of get one over on bed every now and again more of them but absolutely you forgot to name one thing of the ten the naming of the dick oh the dick naming would that be uh did nope i i don't i don't quite get the like if if a if a girl's talking about my dick in a pleasant manner then you can call it whatever the fuck you want to call i don't care it's a weird it is a weird thing that he gets very hung up yeah it's gotta be mainly up on it's like well dude if you have a 10 inch long and it's in there it's called princess Sophia it's like whatever yeah still a 10 inch long you're gonna be scared of princess Sophia yeah when i'm done yeah that's right i wouldn't know nope no i imagine that's how they talk it still works no matter what its name is would you guys have a schlort is that what you have guys i i'm very proud of this uh my poor name on this one is top notch how to lose a guy inside 10 gays why do they always have to be gay movies why is the four niggas the only kind i watch oh wait a soul kind of walk i like to see how the other half does i think it's a good name i don't know they name a lot of dicks and how to come inside a guy in 10 days i don't know how about how to blow a guy in 10 ways how about that that work that work for you mike huh how about that is that okay how to lose your virginity in in 10 days and that works it's actually kind of classy yeah trademark looking to level up workplace conferencing and collaboration shore delivers scalable high quality solutions for every space so your teams connect and collaborate with confidence simplify your solutions and standardize at scale with shore shore build for collaboration learn more at shure.com slash solutions all right so seen for the couple travels to statin island to visit ben's family where the dynamic unexpectedly shifts andy and ben began bonding genuinely back in new york ben proudly refers to andy as his girlfriend while andy starts questioning whether she can publish an article that would destroy someone she actually cares about at the company gala look at me guys nice ben's boss declares ben the winner believing andy is truly in love with him moments later jealous co-workers unravel everything exposing both the bet and the article behind their backs i do want to say give some credit here because as i started reading a little bit about this there's a pretty decent amount of improv that happened on this oh good call and i have to i have to bring it up that kate hudson's improv chops are apparently just severely underrated and underappreciated that well most of that uh guys night scene didn't they say yeah like her throwing the stuff on the guys the therapist scene the therapist scene a lot of like the the over smooching kind of thing that she ends up doing like just going for it and really throwing like throwing other people for a loop in a in a good way yeah you know and kind of keeping the production and and like the writing kind of on its toes because i think if you didn't have some of that in there it became even it's like borderline slapstick sure that you're just like if you didn't have this in there these some of these scenes would have fallen flat easily i absolutely agree with you um i can see like where were some of the problem for me with it is probably the editing and i don't know if they were improv parts at all what the scenes that kind of like drag on a little bit because the therapist scene does not drag on at all like it's her doing like the tissues under her armpits that was all hudson like she just did that um yeah i i totally agree with you and i think they do really spice this movie up a lot and you can't really see the seams at all from like what's the in the writing and what's improved the tissue thing at the at the poker table she comes out and does like the blow thing and i don't know if that was necessarily it but her like it doesn't look like and then like thomas lenon's like just has it on his shoulder little things like that that are those are very underappreciated like points and like jokes that i don't know like we just wouldn't maybe have gotten them without her doing what she was doing and obviously matthew connehay i think has a great knack for improv um i think he brings a lot of himself into his characters obviously but in the same way it works so well here because it is that kind of charm mixing in with his like city boy presence you know so and that is where the charm comes in from that but then the the charm of this family hangout is absolutely i think this is my favorite part of the movie it actually has that turning point moment from the rom-com oh wait i think it's cool that it comes from family it helps because this hangout's fucking dope it just helps to ground the movie a little bit more back to reality here just a little bit which is also a good metaphor for just having a vacation every now and again i know it's super weird how they kind of thought that maybe i don't know but i will say yeah i think you're right it's uh it's like one of the better parts of this to not see that matthew mcconnehay's family which again it's a nice little little switch that they pull because they walk in and it's like people yelling bullshit stuff and you're like okay are we gonna get kids running everywhere the wacky family of matthew mcconne of ben you know no okay and then you're like oh no they're all just actually they're really appreciative of each other they all really love each other that you can tell there's a lot of love in this place no wonder andy would be like very intoxicated with this this place no doubt um if if i was dating matthew mcconnehay of course and he brought me to his family and they were all playing cards for six hours i'd be like after like the second game of bullshit i'm like guys i'm so fucking bored can we please do something i'll be honest i don't even know if i know the rules yet there's so many yelling bullshit yeah there's so many different ways it's mostly a drinking game i think that i remember from college yeah it's just like it's it's cute luckily we don't have to see the six hours of card playing we just i hate to diminish what you just said about it because it is a great scene but like yeah i i just cannot do card games or the uncle's clearly the lovable face absolutely that dude is fucking awesome it's just cut to him every every now and again it's always a very subtle well the smell is uncle marvin or whatever his name is um yeah i did have to think about this though this because this is when they finally have sex for the first time they're they're just gonna like passionately fuck for the first time in the bathroom of his parents house which is probably the only bathroom yeah uh with just family and kids hanging out just right outside the door yeah everyone just hung out outside for the six hours i'm sure some other people want to get in the shower as well nobody has to go to the bathroom after that card game that extravaganza it's it's twofold because your first time fucking in in a shower i presume they fucked in the shower they were heading for the shower they were gonna try but then they found out it's like oh yeah that's right shower is not very fun exactly now fucking in the shower is fun unlike your what tenth time you fucked somebody twelfth something like that like let's try something different yeah there's some awkwardness though if you're gonna do try that for your first one that's what i'm saying and then it's like it's probably like that weird like uh like lavender colored you know fiberglass pink or green tub right with like uh with like a ducky shower curtain kind of a thing yeah i mean it's gonna it's gonna be okay we like to imagine it's our home oh okay just for this three minutes yeah that's about what's gonna take in in but it is nice they finally have the moment of of you know consummating it and and it's great that now they're actually being themselves like yeah and and i never quite caught on to the whole bullshit thing because they're talking about how great of a bullshit finder matthew mccanahey is from this card game but he clearly never sniffed out her bullshit yeah but were they trying to imply that maybe he had but he's still just trying to win no no no like like it's dumb yeah so yeah being smart and they're and they're like he's just so dumb we'll tell him how smart he is at this game because he always wins this card game we'll just tell him he's really smart and special oh yeah or that he was just so in love that he his bullshit meter was off because of because her oh but he wasn't in love well until now like he the man the man well yeah that's a point the man fucking hated well no here's the thing it's like well he brings it up he says like where where's the cool fun smart andy with ambition and all this wanting to be a rider and then you're just like yeah and so he is in love with that idea the idea but not the last six days have been hell right so okay he even tried to even broke up with her and is a god damn it I can't couple's therapy couples therapy you know like he he does not like this relationship now until now all of a sudden they're both actually being themselves maybe he's doing them the trophy man thing where he's like pretending not to really care yeah so bro he's like yeah because of the bet I have to go win her back right now and consider couples therapy right but I actually really like her and might love her lv lv lv no no you did wrong at y'all there you go there you got her you got it you're taking it out yeah yeah we're getting it figured out I'm gonna I'm gonna charm my wife tonight all right hey maybe maybe take her to a frost yourself party yeah yeah I think that that's a that's a unique proposition to say hey everyone come to this party where you can wear millions of dollars worth of diamonds yeah just pick anything it's a very good we're just gonna write your name down on the list to say that you have that and we'll and don't worry later on our security will really not care too much about anybody leaving the party yeah they might be on break for all we know when when you decide to walk out of here with a multi-million dollar diamond it could it's not a big deal we don't even care you know how much we care we don't even care about the earrings that you're still wearing when you fucking walked out and we still got the necklace back but she's still wearing the earrings we're like what like those are really like a couple mil I think it's the kind of party where they just charge you for it like if you leave they're like that means you bought them but the necklace they're like you can't you can't have you just can't have it is priceless but I'm a dad literally priceless it's like the the way I would work this is like higher x x secret service agents yeah to like and hire one for every item in this place and like whoever takes it you watch them the rest of the night or just every person gets their own secret service that just stands behind them it's like it's like a coat check at the front of this place you have to be a threple tonight I'm sorry very sorry about this I have to say that when she walks out in that yellow dress my wife loved this movie and we're watching it together and she that scene happens and she whispers to herself but loud enough for me to hear when she walks out with a yellow dress she says iconic it's apparently this this yellow dress drives women crazy I think yeah I think she's right man like I could I see her okay that's what you get for what for saying for making fun of his wife I was gonna say for not drinking big I don't want to have an IPA they don't make cold ones no that that yellow dress is is unbelievable on her yes it's perfect well and uh and apparently it was just set up perfect for these yellow diamonds that are gonna put on her too exactly it is it's uh but I mean it's it's like the the reveal the dress reveal and Matthew B. Conoha's reaction certainly sells it though too like that kind of that kind of chest clutch he's just like yeah I think he just I think it just hit him like a sack of bricks yep Jesus ch r i s t whatever you spell it man I love them yellow dresses I have a theory I think that this is Wooderson and that is in fact Mike and after he saved him from that fight Wooderson pulled uh Ricky Richie off of him yeah saved him for that fight it kind of had a little bit of a bond after that all right and then he Mike was going to New York obviously anyways Aerosmith first obviously and obviously they went to Aerosmith but then Wooderson was like finally figured out he's like well they all went to college Mike's done with college he ends up moving to New York for journalism and advertising whatever it happens up being gets a job there then Wooderson shows up he's like I just couldn't deal with those high school girls anymore man and he comes back around it's kind of fucked up I get all of this same thing he made he just finally realized that's sort of weird right he just got to a point where I just kept getting older and they kept getting younger anyways I just need a job and then went straight up the and then he's in fact I need to change my name yeah I got a problem I got my name anymore I can't I can't go to Texas all my exes live there Ben so there's a couple restraining orders yes so if you want to jump in my Lincoln we can go and my my question for you boys is uh who's worse who's worse in this whole thing Andy or Ben because I've gone back and forth on it like I'd like to think that that actually um Andy is worse what she's doing is this whole trying to to dump somebody but then I'm like well wait a minute but Ben's trying to actively manipulate someone into falling in love I can't quite decide who was actually the worst person here's in their agreements in these bets here's the thing I'm also going to say Andy and I'm going to say it because her intent with the article and everything else with this individual could have been anybody was going to be malicious it was malicious it was it was the intent to drive this person crazy and just like ruin their life their life for 10 days right how bad could that have possibly gone right even worse than this had it been just some other random guy she could have been killed I'm saying she could have been killed guy could have like yeah it could have gone really fucking bad that's true that being said then you have Ben and the idea is to make somebody fall in love he didn't say he wasn't open to the idea yeah he could actually be in love that's what I sorry that's was there ever a point where they were like and then you'll just fucking get rid of right and then we want to see you throw her in the gutter yeah you know what's it'll be a cool story is like uh that if this really works out exactly and then you guys really do end up with a diamond and wow what an amazing story an idea behind the ad campaign potentially yeah and then that'll help our companies kind of get together a little bit super freaking weird and then by the way because this whole time Matthew be kind of hey yeah he's doing like the first date thing the crab legs and yeah it could have been like that bit of a man test to be like is she cool can she hang yeah but then they bond over the nicks tickets he he's cooking her insane awesome dishes that she rejects because of the article first of all he picked the place they were going to go first and that's already impossible yes you already had to lay down unreal even ask her no unreal and which is by the way apparently guys it is probably true just have just pick a fucking place exactly you might get one or two rejections on it's like no I already picked we're going you heard the alternative is if you and your spouse argue about where to go you just say hey babe I picked a place for us tonight we're gonna go there but I want to see if you can guess it and whatever they guess you go yes how'd you guess it oh my god that's one of the best ways because they're saying that place you're like that's the one we need to delete that all because I yeah it's secret they don't listen this far okay Molly hasn't listened to an episode in like two years might have Mike this one this is the one you idiot we just did ten things I hate about you and fucking killed it I'm sorry we got a lot of we got a new demographic locked in okay we got to take care of them yeah okay so can we nix that so mccarner is all wrong in this and hey Hudson did no wrong yes correct yeah oh right that's seen actually that's a movie that's the end as far as I'm concerned no it's not the shitty part is though where I lean more towards hating Andy worse is that it comes out they both fucked up they both know that each other fucked up and then she has to take it she has to take this whole holier than now approach and like embarrass him on stage oh yeah like this could have just ended they both said fuck as if she has like zero accountability the whole fucking thing and and it's implied that even though this whole company saw every saw every bit of this breakup yeah that he still gets the pitch yeah what if I were those two girls I'd be like uh what no actually it makes a lot of sense Mike because she went through this thinking like maybe there's a thing here and maybe by this point by the end of all this up to this point now she's like you know I am I think I am really falling for him she doesn't want to write the article her going through this and making this big of a scene pretty much proves that she was in love and what the fuck man so they're like fuck we just lost they know they lost yeah they got nothing I mean I he yeah okay I hear you you know what I mean like they know they lost the bet he hooked him with the fro st rs that was good enough did he spell frost I don't know I don't think so I hope not because there's just too much when this movie this movie's over it's going to cut to like four months there it's like they both got fired from their jobs she wrote a political article that no one read and he the frost yourself campaign was just like guys it was terrible yeah nobody bought diamonds in the whole city turns out people don't like to get told go frost yourself yeah to their faces yeah exactly meanwhile Michael Keaton's like what what jack frost oh jack jack off frost jack off frosty so let's finish this movie final scene the truth explodes publicly heartbroken they separate until ben reads and he's finished article and realizes she genuinely fell in love with him learning she quit her job and is heading to washington ben chases her down calls her out for running away they finally confess everything choosing honesty over ambition the film ends with ben sending andy's belongings back home where they both belong belongings belong and sealing it with a kiss yep uh her last line to him like I guess you did it you you lost a guy in 10 days or whatever and she's like or yeah you lost him she's like no I didn't because you can't lose something you didn't have ooh okay yeah but we did you did did and like we both understand in this moment that we both did something stupid but like is the connection not real because of that we could acknowledge it that we made mistakes and we could you know just each kind of own this kind of nice we're our own parts of this reminds both of us they were they were human it's actually the best possible outcome we both if one of us were not in on this like this would be a bad situation but we were both kind of trying to fuck this up yeah but here's the cool thing like we met and we actually love each other yeah like fucking crazy kind of weird how like this all played out I mean it's it's super coincidental actually that we're both at the same place trying to do the same thing do a different person and just happen to be matched up together instead it's like I'm quitting my job and moving tomorrow it's the only place I can write what I want it's not no no it's not he's right you can write that here you could go to to G to G to stay at it you could write that article you don't understand politics only come from Washington DC right you don't understand oh right wow so well no wait no I but like okay the motorcycle chase on the bridge it's like lady I can't pull over it's like well then do you have something I can throw up into great little wine but then he says lady what are we doing here he's like what do you want what do you want to do here lady and Matthew we kind of hey boldly says John to tries to do the you know all order for her move and it's like take the lady's belongings back to your apartment she's got other transportation moves in for kiss uh no I ain't gonna do that chief I'm not leaving you alone with this girl that you just pulled over on the side of the fucking Brooklyn bridge I ain't doing that there's some some weird thing I just got about you being here telling me to take her shit and you're gonna take her I'm not comfortable it's okay we know each other and I'm fucking by it come on look at watch this hey bullshit all right I'm getting all right I'm getting my fucking gun no no no hey hey hey get my fucking gun or he just takes her money and just all her stuff and it's like yeah that's what I was thinking too it's not like an uber where you're like hey this guy this is the guy that has my stuff hey you don't fucking know what that cabby's name is or where he's going that's I mean it's very true he drives the same car that 9 000 other people do in that city in the in a one block radius so I mean that makes a lot of sense but no hey cabby's have integrity Mike I don't want you throwing them under the bus like that I won't thank you you're god an agency yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah agency uh a g en c smelling me why agency do you guys have any props or punchable faces you want to do in this one yeah let's do a prop oh here's a prop what do you got man I got one okay okay I want to hang the the bullshit scoreboard on our wall okay with all the markings on it hell yeah I think that's a good one that or the or the photoshopped album that she gives him yeah of like their future children that's good it's pretty pretty gross that's pretty that's pretty gross yeah I don't like that I want um I want the no I don't want that I don't know what I want guys I'll tell you what I tell you what uh what Caleb K wants he wants a prop uh he wants a salin dion concert t-shirt nice nice nice those are pretty good yeah those are pretty those they're they're such a terrible like like knockoff looking shirt they've just got just a pink weird pink shirt with like a square of salin dion perfect not for resale and no no I want the marquee of the rom rom com uh or chick flick marie movie film movie marie film they went to I want them the whole marquee yeah you know what I want I want the I want their um uh poker I want his poker table with the piss on it yep yep hit it if we were on a train to go punch a face I'm on board I think this is the first time in a punchable face history but uh I'm going for the dog I'm punching that dog right in the face I can't do little dogs like that man especially dogs that are gonna be pissing on everything yeah there's there's there's just something about those dogs that like that one it's like with the hair there's so much manicurism like that has to go into like having that dog I don't get it man I really don't you made it look ugly you may they did it on purpose yeah okay and by the way the entire time that these are this argument is happening that dog is sitting there just like what the fuck did I get into he's like what the he's doing a dog article oh yeah about how to find a family that'll get rid of you how to get adopted in 10 days no how to get unadopted in 10 days he's like okay so i'm gonna piss on the coffee they're not getting rid of me get stupid haircut how to get your foster fail parents to foster failure whatever the fuck I want to I want to see that movie how to foster fail at 10 days written by cruel that's right I have a punchable face it's the the first nix game there's a guy when he goes to get the sodas there's a guy which is he's kind of a bigger guy longer dark hair and he just has the like the blankest look on his face of like he did not know they were rolling at the time he's just like and he's waving like a nix finger he's like and then like he's coming back down the stairs like yeah let's get that guy in frame again they didn't just didn't take uh I don't know I didn't like it at all that's the guy yeah I think my punchable face is sleepless in Seattle the patron the guy big man yeah big guy who punches Matthew McConaughey I think he's my punchable face because he's the exact person that like not not talking about anything other than the fact like about punching or him being aggressive you know you kind of got every right you know people interrupting his movie and this isn't even her being real it's a fucking ploy so you're interrupting my movie kind of has every right but I don't want to sit next to this guy he looks like he smells like his own hair grease and and he's probably crying loudly different times true you know and he's doing the whole extra crunchy napkins so he's got his tears and his buttery mustache with dude yeah he's my punchable for sure all right so well anything else you guys want to talk about on this one it's sort of just ends it's like oh like oh there's not even like uh like six months later getting married it's just like no there it goes setting up a sequel maybe the only other I actually I do have one last thing and it's the it's it's maybe maybe one of the biggest tropes of all is the placement of this gin blossom song the harmonica or whatever and it's just anywhere you go how far you down I fucking love that song I fucking love that song too and for some reason in this I was like this feels forced that was at the end right yeah it was right at the end when he's chasing after the music's not great in this movie like they even have like a guerrilla song playing in the in the 19 2000 or something yeah in the upbeat like martini bar I'm like yeah there's kind of weird there was just some out of place yeah there's some out of place musical choices kind of throughout this whole movie there's some good ones but there's some very out of place ones and the gin blossoms as much as I do love that song what did not fit for me is not the way I wanted to end this movie yep oh change my prop the like 10 cd changer thing yeah that's kind of tight it's like lengthwise sort of yeah you can see the disc I like that well we have dissected it with a modern eye we got to figure out those modern day ratings to see where it lands on our big old board Sean what do you got man I got this watch this with my wife and I think that's the only way y'all ever watch it to be honest with you I will not like really ever go back and visit this on my own not to say that's like because it's a romantic comedy and it's not that at all it's just like I think the gold standard lines up with like the wedding singer for me I just think it's funny and romantic and it's the best of both worlds this movie is kind of like I said the jokes in here kind of drag out a little bit and I feel the length quite a bit in this some some things get old but I can appreciate these two k-huts and Matthew McConaughey their chemistry is on fire love washing them together and I love all the exterior characters like their friends and everything like that yeah it's a fun movie it's fun and it's fine I'm gonna go 5.9 5.9 for shawter AJ what about you man this is this is kind of a tough placement just because I think I think that this movie is is better than maybe even at points we've kind of made it sound but like I do really buy into their chemistry because I mean I think it's great and obviously we get it again later on down the road in both their careers so in my mind these two kind of had this like moment of being kind of a Kurt Russell Goldie Han of this generation you know what I mean and and it's a very endearing like chemistry that they've got I hate it because I think that like this movie gets away with shit because we're we're not doing it we're doing it in a fun way or we're making fun of it but then like people don't take it that it's like it's this this movie walks a line for me I guess is what I'm trying to say and I think it's I think it's got some really good improv moments I think that it's got some really great like side characters it's got the tropes and everything I'm a little disappointed in the music choices that all being said I think I would probably end up putting this somewhere in about a nine I'm sorry nine five oh oh god okay it wasn't that good uh let me give it a nine somewhere between like a nine it's like a nine it's somewhere between like a nine and a four it's like Jesus like pull fiction what a swing uh no I'm going to give this a five point eight four good christ yeah that's important trust thank you AJ oh I'm gonna be a little higher than you guys but not much uh I'm gonna I'm gonna call it a six point one it is it is it is a fine movie it is it is not what you would call what our average is like our like good fine movie it's just like I appreciate what you did I like that people like it but like we talked last week uh rom this is more rom than calm I I still think like just friends is the gold standard for like rom and calm living together in the universe and this is just like there it's not that funny I like the story it's cool the people in this movie are great I just I gotta give it a six point one I think and we gotta go to starling here to find his modern day he says how to lose a guy is still glossy charming and driven almost entirely by the gravitas of two absurdly attractive people on the other it quietly warped an entire generation's expectations about dating mostly by suggestion suggesting that if you're hot enough you can just walk up to a stranger of your liking in a bar say hello and be in a relationship by Thursday Kate Hudson's doing some real work here Andy sacks is a character who swing Andy sacks Andy Anderson yeah Andy is a character who swings impressively between charming self-aware and builds a fully unhinged moments and Hudson sells every pivot she's funny without being cutesy a noise been without losing likeability with the audience in some moments she's hot she's like a hotter and a ferris and just friends Matthew McConaughey meanwhile has possibly never had better chemistry with anyone is there a rom-com couple that laughs more naturally together as scenes are fading they both have lingering smiles after easy banter the scenes breathe instead of rushing to the next plot point you believe they like each other which can be rare in this genre noticing more details now there's a lot more a lot of small choices from actions to facial expressions I notice watching this today for example when Ben brings Andy home I never picked up the choice change music from hookup music to romantic music mainly because let's stay together initially feels like a bizarre choice for a scene about not wanting to sleep together my point exactly dude today I learned that the lyrics are more about long-term intimacy than immediate sex I had no idea but I refuse to believe I'm the only person who grew up thinking that song wasn't a guy's cue to a girl to say it let's fuck throughout the movie I understand some of the logistics are to test Ben but I had to question my own patience in dating watching this is it really a thing for a guy to leave a concert or big event to get someone a soda when he doesn't even want one am I not romantic if I have stuck strictly to I want one would you like one too mindset some things go a little too far even within the premise Andy calling his mom always felt like it crossed the line but watching it now it's clear that Andy herself thinks it might be the final straw she's looking for she's pushing the experiment to its breaking point including her own she doesn't want to be this girl why this movie is one of the favorites of the modern day rom-com it is is it genuinely put the calm in it they do want you to laugh or at least smile little big little big I don't know we'll find out Kate Hudson is hovering over Matthew McConaughey's crotch and they are sorry Kate Hudson hovering over Matthew McConaughey's crotch is killing me credit where it's due this is also one of the few rom-coms that let sex happen in the middle of the story not as a reward at the end once everyone has been emotionally earned it that choice alone makes makes the relationship feel more adult and more honest I would like to ask Andy though once you know you like Ben do you really need to lay out the entire truth of the experience to write this article couldn't you just tell it honestly with nuance and fudge a few details to keep your man yeah as the movie winds down to the DeLauer party I finally have an audience to hear me say what I have thought for two decades of all fake movie ad campaigns ever conceived frost yourself as hands down the absolute worst this is not the badass Nike commercial from what women want from the same era finally I love how the movie brings everything to a boil with the final party scene here the characters keep crossing the room to engage with someone passing on information through these shuffles that brings us to the truth coming out there's almost a Shakespearean rhythm to it it's fast fun and theatrical without feeling frantic and a great song to end the scene with your so vain it was always about each each of their own career aspirations until their feelings got in the way after everything Annie has done I noticed it ends with her hugging the doorman I think that was to remind us that she's not ruthless and cruel she's just doing her job maybe too well she did this initially to help one of the best rom-coms of all time Catherine Hahn she needs this more than Ben because the consequence of her actions were to break someone's heart Ben's scenario could have landed him the job and the girl in the end how to lose a guy in 10 days holds up not because it's flawless but because it's playful and occasionally ridiculous and anchored by two performers that genuinely enjoy each other it's a movie that understands relationships are messy even when you're both hot with great jobs living in Manhattan gobbling up nicks tickets before stubhub ruined everything and google digital advertising disrupts both of their respective fields this movie is an 8.25 for me and if you boys don't like it go frost yourselves so I was gonna say something in in the episode right now uh that uh the amount of money spent on nicks tickets in this movie I want to know yeah I want the math and I know like inflation and everything but I want to know that I'm actually glad starling came in and raised this up a little bit yeah as a group our score is now a 6.5 to that drop this into 185th spot tied with baseball we do think that just friends euro trip and mall rats are better films but we think this is better than crocodile dundee out cold and empire records I could that's that actually feels really good actually he convinced me a little bit that I think my score needed to come up so I'm I'm okay with that better than empire records you could argue that that's a bit of a like teen rom-comish yeah I'd say so in that in that kind of vein this is better than that I would say and thanks for k-hudson for the close yeah we're decked out in fabletics today yeah I know you're listening because I know you have to yep well we know you we know you enjoyed the episode thanks for being here tune in as the month of love continues there's something about Mary followed by cable guy which is a love story and we will prove it and if you're new to this episode 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