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10(ish) Takeaways from Jeffrey Lurie’s State of the Eagles press conference

37 min
Apr 1, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

Host Elliott analyzes Jeffrey Lurie's NFL annual meetings press conference, covering the Eagles' new stadium plans, AJ Brown trade speculation, quarterback Jalen Hurts' future, and the hiring of offensive coordinator Sean Manion. Lurie emphasizes fan amenities, maintains ambiguity on stadium location, and expresses strong support for Hurts while leaving AJ Brown's status uncertain.

Insights
  • Jeffrey Lurie is deliberately vague on stadium location to maintain negotiating leverage with Philadelphia, similar to recent Sixers strategy with Camden/Delaware threats
  • The Eagles' decision to replace offensive coordinator represents a rare emotional rather than analytics-driven decision, breaking from their typical data-focused approach
  • Lurie's shortest answers on AJ Brown and stadium location suggest discomfort with these topics, indicating they are active areas of internal negotiation
  • The Eagles' patient, lengthy interview process for coaching hires (recorded for future reference) may deter top candidates who fear information sharing with competitors
  • Lurie's repeated emphasis on Nick Sirianni's role in offensive changes is strategic messaging to reinforce the head coach's authority and autonomy
Trends
NFL stadium negotiations increasingly use relocation threats as leverage to secure public funding and favorable terms from host citiesOwner-player relationships are becoming more visible and strategically managed as part of franchise culture and media narrativesDefensive adaptation to offensive innovations (tush push) occurs faster than previously anticipated, requiring continuous scheme evolutionYoung coaching hires are becoming more common in NFL coordinator roles, with teams prioritizing innovation and adaptability over experiencePractice facility quality is emerging as a competitive disadvantage, with NFLPA report cards driving franchise investment decisionsInternational games (London) are becoming standard scheduling considerations for major franchises, requiring home game protection negotiationsFlag football is positioning itself as a potential contingency plan for the NFL if physical football faces regulatory or health-related challenges
Companies
Philadelphia Eagles
Primary subject of the episode; Jeffrey Lurie discusses team strategy, stadium plans, and player management
New Orleans Saints
Mentioned as the team that hired away the Eagles' previous offensive coordinator
Jefferson Health
Named partner for the Eagles' practice facility complex (Jefferson Health Complex) across from Lincoln Financial Field
Lincoln Financial Field
Current Eagles stadium; lease expires in 2032, triggering new stadium planning discussions
NFL
League context for annual meetings, rule discussions, and competitive landscape
Buffalo Bills
Referenced as executing the tush push more effectively than the Eagles in recent season
Real Madrid
International stadium example Lurie researched for design and fan amenity innovations
FC Barcelona
International stadium example Lurie researched for design and fan amenity innovations
Nashville Predators
Referenced as recent stadium renovation example for research and learning
Eagles Autism Foundation
Lurie highlighted recent $15 million investment and called it potentially the best sports philanthropic aspect in the...
People
Jeffrey Lurie
Primary speaker at NFL annual meetings press conference discussing team strategy and future direction
Jalen Hurts
Lurie expressed strong support, calling him a clutch performer and biggest winner, indicating no trade plans
AJ Brown
Subject of trade speculation; Lurie's vague answer 'we'll see what happens down the road' suggests potential trade
Jalen Carter
Lurie gave minimal assessment ('good') of his season, suggesting possible contract negotiations or reduced expectations
Nick Sirianni
Lurie credited him with recognizing need for offensive changes and leading coordinator hiring process
Sean Manion
New hire praised by Lurie for work ethic and innovativeness; described as A+ in multiple areas
Howie Roseman
Mentioned as part of management team handling AJ Brown situation and organizational decisions
Julian Lurie
Jeffrey's son; increasingly involved with team operations and attending owner meetings
Jason Kelsey
Referenced as having helped explain and defend the tush push play during previous press conferences
Don Smolensky
Mentioned as part of leadership structure that Julian Lurie is learning from
Elliott
Host of the podcast analyzing Lurie's press conference; asked question about tush push
Spike
Voice of WIP afternoon show; asked Jeffrey Lurie about tush push at press conference
Quotes
"Whatever's best for the fans, I mean, we don't really go on a geographical basis. It's whatever's best for the fans."
Jeffrey LurieStadium location discussion
"AJ is an eagle. We'll see what happens down the road."
Jeffrey LurieAJ Brown discussion
"There's no bigger fan of Jaylin than me. Clutch gene. Absolutely."
Jeffrey LurieJalen Hurts discussion
"It's a pleasure to come here and not have to fight. It was very relaxed. I didn't have to bring Jason Kelsey and have to explain the play."
Jeffrey LurieTush push discussion
"Owner-player relationships are meant to be real authentic and interactive and warm and friendly pretty much."
Jeffrey LuriePlayer relationships discussion
Full Transcript
Go Fires! What's going on everybody and good morning or good night or good afternoon. Whenever you are listening to this, I hope your day is going well. Well, Jeffrey Laurie just spoke at the NFL annual meetings his now once a year press conference where he talks about everything Eagles and needless to say there was a lot to talk about with Jeffrey, but it was a different type of press conference. I feel like normally, you know, you look at these past few years last year, they had won the Super Bowl. The year before that they had an epic collapse. The year before that they had lost the Super Bowl. You know, the year before that was the first year of Nick and Jaylin and lots of questions about the quarterback and head coach. So this was a rare one where there was a bunch of different topics, a bunch of important topics, but none like super, super pressing ones. That being said, he had a lot of interesting things to say. He talked about the stadium. He talked about AJ Brown. He had an interesting interaction about Jaylin Hertz and Jaylin Carter talked about Sean Manion talked about the tush push talked about his son, Julian Lurie and his involvement. So it was a real smorgasbord of topics from Jeffrey. And I'm going to give a ton of thoughts in this one of what he had to say. So just to set the scene, it was at the Arizona Biltmore in a room off to the side. They set up the Eagles screen. Jeffrey walked in and I did want to say off the top. So like Jeffrey's been here for a few days. We've been here for a few days. We've had to interact with him a few times and he does seem and we'll talk about this later, but he does seem like as vibrant and invested and I mean, really locked in as ever. Really. I mean, I've covered him obviously my whole time covering the Eagles. You know, the more I cover the team, the more I interact with them, the more I get to know him. Obviously my first year, he's not, you know, talking the little old Elliot, but I don't know. I'm going to say a freshness or like a renewed vigor, if that's the right way to say it, about Jeffrey. So I'm going to play you a quote at the end. I think really highlights that. But yeah, I've been impressed by Jeffrey on this trip. It is a good way to put it. But the first question, and I think the main topic in a lot of ways is the new stadium. So in case you haven't heard any background on the stadium, the Eagles least in the stadium, which Jeffrey talks about in here ends in 2032. Crazy already talking about the year 2032 as if it's close. But with stadium talk, it is close because they have to design it. They have to build it. They have to pick a location. So there was a lot of stadium questions. So after Jeffrey gave an opening statement, talked about his excitement for the season, talked about all the great things he feels Eagles Autism Foundation is doing and they are doing a lot of great things. They just got a $15 million investment. He said it might be the best sports philanthropic. I get the creation is not the right word, but aspect of a sports team in the world. And they're doing a lot of good work. So Jeffrey gave an opening statement about that. And then after that, the first question was about the stadium. Kind of a broad question about the stadium. And here is what Jeffrey had to say. The lease is up in 2032. There's extensions. It's a long process. When we researched Lincoln Financial Field, it probably took us, I don't know, two, three years of exploratory research. Now our exploratory research is very much on looking at stadiums around the world and domestically. Is there anything we can learn from Nashville and Buffalo? Is there anything we can learn from the renovations in Madrid and Barcelona? It's really important, I think. We want to maximize fan amenities and attract the best possible environment for Philadelphia to do that. You've really got to do the exploratory research. Don't rush into it. This is a big decision. Where's the team going to be? So I think it always pays off to take it slow, really understand what's going on in the world of design, fan amenities, artificial intelligence and design, what kind of facility. So it's really exploratory. I wish I could give you more permanent answers, but we're going to take our time. I would hope in the next year or two we'll have some more definitive. So in there, and he said this a bunch when talking about the stadiums, he highlighted fan amenities. Fan amenities. And with that, he's talking about obviously the fan experience in the stadium, the seats, the concession stands, the things you can do. I'd imagine getting into the stadium, how easy that is. So he talked about fan amenities quite a bit. If you notice, he didn't really say much on a dome. He wasn't pressed on the topic of a dome on the stadium. I will say, like a little behind the scenes inside dugout baseball, we have him on the record about a dome. He talked about in the Super Bowl. So when you only have 30 minutes, when there's a bunch of reporters, I thought pressing on the dome wasn't really needed. We know that he feels that he likes outdoor games, but he also knows that with a dome, you can host big sporting events. So there wasn't really a lot of focus on the dome. He talked later on about how it sounds like maybe the practice facility. We know now it's the Jefferson Health Complex across the street from the link. Potentially could be built with the stadium, whether next to it. Maybe they would build a new training complex. We know that on the NFLPA report card, the complex consistently scores low. And to be honest, understandable. It is an old complex. The locker rooms are really small. They have a dome that's not 100 yards. It just is not a state of the art complex at all. Like the stadium itself, I think is average, but at least the stadium holds up to an extent. The training complex definitely needs picked up on. So it sounds like they could build a training complex with the stadium. But again, when initially asked about it, he really, really focused on fan amenities, focused on fan experience, and about the research that it's going to take to come up with these decisions. And now, they already sent out the fan survey. They're clearly going to spend some time looking into this. Now, later, he was pressed on the idea of where it would be built. And this is key, right? Because we know when stadiums are built, we just saw this with the Sixer Stadium. Threat's not a great word, but there's negotiating, right? The Sixers will build it in Camden. We'll build it in Delaware. We'll build it here, right? And then where they really want to do is get enough options at the city of Philadelphia kind of caves and helps them build it, right? So I do think there will be a tight PR balance to walk with the Eagles. The idea of the Eagles not playing in Philadelphia, I think will knock over well. But Jeffrey was pressed on the idea of the location of the stadium in Philadelphia. And here's what he had to say. Whatever's best for the fans, I mean, we don't really go on a geographical basis. It's whatever's best for the fans. And, you know, I can't tell you where Cleveland is, Barcelona is. I don't know. It's just it's whatever, honestly, the bottom line is whatever's best for the fans. So one thing I did notice when cutting all the audio from this is I think the two topics where AJ where where Lurie probably felt the most uncomfortable talking were his two shortest answers. There's one on AJ that's coming up and then you hear this. I mean, that was a very short answer. When I play the rest of these clips, you'll see they're like over a minute. He really talks. He got in and out of that one. So I think it's probably an uncomfortable topic because there is going to be discussions of moving it outside of Philadelphia. Ultimately, I think he will not do it. But you hear in there, you know, we don't go on a geographical basis. I can't tell you where Cleveland or Barcelona are. And by that, he means like, does Barcelona play in downtown Barcelona? Does Cleveland play in downtown Cleveland, the new stadiums? Like even though we view them as those places, maybe they're technically outside, right? Like we call them the New York Giants. They play in New Jersey. We call them the New England Patriots. We view them as a Boston team. They play in Fox, bro. So I think that's what he meant by that. He did reference Barcelona and I think it was Real Madrid a few times. Real Madrid has a sick new stadium where they have like multiple layers of grass. The Eagles won't be doing that. I mean, maybe I'd be shocked if they did. So he's clearly been looking into different stadiums. And the idea of where the stadium will be located was one of his shortest answers. Wanted to get in and out of it. And I think over the next few years, you know, God willing, we're still doing these daily pods, we'll do pods where it's like the Eagles are talking about moving here. The Eagles are talking about moving there. And I think how it could potentially be portrayed is teams trying to locations, trying to convince them to come because the economic impact it would have. I feel pretty strong in saying that at the end of the day, all the pods will do, all the discussions will do. They will stay in Philadelphia. I think it's important to Jeffrey Lurie. I think he likes being in South Philly. I think he'll find a way to make it happen. But this was the first kind of dance and not just saying, yeah, we're building in South Philly and kind of downplaying the idea of where the actual stadium is, as opposed to just being very strict about where he's going to be. So overall, not a lot of details on the stadium. Again, like purposely vague, plug the fan amenities, downplay the idea of the location. And so this is our first dance with the, with the new stadium. Speaking of dancing and dances, it's been a dance all week with the A.J. Brown stuff. Howie Roseman was up first and made it clear. AJ Zanigal. Nick Serrani was up second, made it clear. AJ Zanigal. Well, you'll never guess what, what Jeffrey said when asked about AJ Brown. Here's what he had to say. I, I, I, we kept saying AJ Zanigal. And he's, he's definitely, you know, I just will say this. Devonte and AJ, two great receivers and also great teammates. I just want to say that these two are wonderful to have. And great teammates and great receivers. So he's an eagle. We'll see what happens down the road. But so is Devonte. So is Jalen Hurts. So is Seguan. They're all really great competitors and luckily great teammates. And they just want to win big. AJ is an eagle, right? Jokes about it at the beginning. Now in there, he does pay AJ a lot of compliments. Actually, thank God, and Nick Howey and Jeffrey, Jeffrey handled it the best, which is funny because he's probably the least media trained and certainly deals with the media, the, the fewest amount of times during the year. But AJ and Devonte are great teammates. They're great receivers. AJ is an eagle. But you hear in there, we'll see what happens down the road. And again, one of his shorter answers, we'll see what happens down the road, leaving the door open to, to, to trading AJ. And again, I think they will trade AJ. He talks in the press conference at other points about all the young players are going to sign on defense, about identifying core players and making sure you can keep them like the messaging is the same. But we'll see what happens down the road is pretty telling. Now, Lurie was also asked about the meeting he had with AJ Brown this past season. If you remember, it was reported by ESPN, South Palantoneo that Jeffrey Lurie went onto the practice field and Big Dom set this up and talked to AJ about AJ's frustrations and they ended it in a good place. Jeffrey hugged him. So he got out of that one, didn't talk a lot about a lot of details about about AJ. But I think there is truth in there. The truth that I think is in there is I do think Jeffrey cares about his players. And Jeffrey is a practice a lot. And Jeffrey does talk to players and Jeffrey does do things with his players. Like we've seen him take them to Celtics games. We've, you know, he does things with them, right? So there is truth to that. In fact, he probably brought AJ and Devonte to a Celtics game at one point. Devonte is a huge Celtics fan. So I think there's truth to it. I think the fact that he talked to AJ is not unique. I'm sure he talks to AJ all the time. What he downplays here is he had to talk to AJ about his frustrations. And now they're probably going to trade AJ because of AJ's frustration. So didn't think he would go into detail about what was said, but definitely downplaying the the significance of the meeting. Like I talk to players all the time. Yeah, sure. You don't talk to players all the time on the field about frustrations. They have in things they're posting on social media and not wanting to be there. So was impressed on that. Maybe he should have been pressed on it as I listened back. I feel like I should have asked a follow up to be completely honest, just a little self scouting, but there is truth in there. Like he does have good relationship relationships with his players. And, you know, I think Lurie, if I had to guess, is probably annoyed with the AJ stuff, probably doesn't love that he so badly wants to play for the Patriots. But I believe him when he said that he has good relationships with his players. But I also believe when he says, we'll see what happens down the road, because I think he knows down the road, AJ will not be on the eagle. So one of the most interesting interactions during the press conference was this one about to play for you. So I'm going to let it play through so that you can kind of live through it like everyone else did. So here is the question, the answer and the interaction. Here we go. Normally proactive when it comes to contracts and signing your court players early. This seems like a good window for Jaylin. What what do you how are you viewing that? Is that something that you're you're active with and how do you see his future here? Right, it's our philosophy. It's something also our philosophy never to talk about. So we never, ever, ever talk about as we're starting negotiations with any player on anything. I help out with his future in Philly. You know, how do you feel about him? He's a very good player and I'm optimistic, but we don't ever discuss contracts in any way. It's the best way to go. I just had you view his last season. Good. If I could follow up on that follow up. There. Yeah. You know, a year ago after the Super Bowl, you said, you know, he's got a clutch gene and everything like that. Jaylin Hurch talking about. Yeah. OK. I think he was talking about Jaylin Carter. Now Jaylin Hurch. Oh, I thought you were. I thought it was all about Jaylin Carter. Jaylin Hurch. I said Jaylin, you're right. I was addressing it about Jaylin Carter. So yeah, if we can. Reverse it. Tape it. Rewind it. Yeah. So Jaylin Hurch. We got a lot of Jaylins. Yeah. So Jaylin Hurch is the same concept. You're not going to talk about contracts, but how do you. He's under contract. Oh, I love Jaylin. I mean, there's no bigger fan of Jaylin than me. Clutch gene. Absolutely. You know, the guy MVP of the Super Bowl 13 months ago should have been MVP of the Super Bowl right before that against against. Yeah, can't see the first time. Exceptional and so dedicated. I mean, I'm. You know, I think you probably know. Spend a lot of time with Jaylin and these as I do with most quarterbacks and incredibly dedicated to the game, to winning and being a huge winner. And there's I love everything about him. So anyway, those things take. Over time, we never would discuss it. He's in the middle of a new contract now. Yeah. So when this happened, I was sitting there and going, that good answer from Larry, where he just goes, good, was like, whoa, I like talk about my mind spiraling, like I'm sitting there and going, oh, my God, they're going to trade Jaylin. Oh, my God, he's down on Jaylin. Jaylin didn't have a great year. Like that's crazy. And then it's clarified. And it's good. It was because for the Eagles perspective and Jeffrey's perspective, that would have been hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube on that one. Um, so a couple of things to take from that. One, you hear his compliments of Jaylin hurts there at the end and how much he loves Jaylin. What a great job Jaylin does. No bigger fan of Jaylin. They're not Jaylin's not going anywhere. Right. Like maybe next year, if he doesn't have a good year, you never know. But man, Jeffrey Lurie loves Jaylin. Now he does say in there and pretty much say he's not getting a new contract. You hear him. He's in the middle of a new contract. So kind of hinting Jaylin was not going to get that new deal, but very, very complimentary of Jaylin says he's a clutch has a clutch gene says he's a winner. And it's true. Like I think the biggest advocate Jaylin has in that building is Jeffrey Lurie. I don't know if you put Lurie, Howie and Nick on true serum, then maybe how he would talk is glowingly or Nick. Like I think Nick and Jaylin are in a good place. And I think Nick does have respect for Jaylin and what he can do. But I think Lurie is Jaylin's biggest advocate in the building. And you can hear that in the way he speaks about him. And here's a good news for Jaylin. Having Lurie as your biggest advocate is certainly, certainly good. Now, the other part of that is the Jaylin Carter part of it. So he thinks they're talking about Jaylin Carter initially. He kind of says, you know, optimistic, you know, blah, blah, blah. And then like what type of year did he have? Good. Like that's it. He just goes good. Now, you could say like Jeffrey, kind of like all of us, you know, it's easier to assess the quarterback play than it is a defensive tackle play. Jeffrey's involved in meetings and all these things to an extent. But like Jeffrey's not breaking down Jaylin Carter tape. He watches Jaylin hurts every day and can kind of have like a feeling of how he played in each game. So I'm not surprised he didn't like dive into Jaylin Carter's year, but also Jaylin Carter didn't have a good year. And I think the way he says good there kind of hints at that, right? Like good, you know, like got tossed out of a game, had to miss time, do a shoulder injury, didn't play like the player we hoped he could, but, but good. Right. So I also think the fact that when they were talking about Jaylin, his head initially went to Jaylin Carter is probably telling about the fact that the is the on the back. Sorry, I got thrown off for a second. The, the fact he hears about Jaylin Carter hears Jaylin and thinks about Carter initially tells you that they are negotiating. It's something they're talking about. It's something you're prioritizing. And I do think Jaylin Carter will get paid, but his good on that is one of the first times I've thought, wow, like maybe they're not as thrilled with Jaylin Carter, uh, as they used to be coming off that, uh, I don't want to say down year, but certainly not a year where he was awesome. So the stadium, AJ Brown, Jaylin Hurch, Jaylin Carter, those were the main topics. And outside of that, he touched, he touched on a bunch of different things that we're going to get into on the other side. So on the other side, Larry talked about Sean Manion. He talked about the push push. He talked a little bit more about the offensive process, uh, the process of hiring an offensive coordinator and then a bunch of different things we'll get into. So that'll be on the other side, but first, a word from our sponsors. Okay. So once he got through kind of the main topics, he was asked about Sean Manion. And, you know, now that they have their coordinator, they have their coaching staff, even just hearing the questions, it kind of brings you back to a time, which was a long, long, long, long, long, about six weeks ago where, you know, they weren't really, like we talked about the job a ton. Is it a good job? Do people want it? And is Sean Manion a good candidate? Is he a good hire? So Larry was asked about Manion. And you could see the excitement in his face. Uh, and I think you can hear it in his voice. Hope it comes through about Sean Manion. Here's what Larry had to say about the team's new offensive coordinator. It was designed to have us be a championship offense. So, um, we had just 12, what, 14 months ago broken the all-time NFL record for scoring in the NFC championship game in the Super Bowl. So, uh, you know, think about that in the history of the NFL. No one had ever scored more points in those two games. I think, and then, you know, losing our, our offensive play caller to New Orleans Saints, there's a human tendency probably to keep at what you're doing as opposed to understanding that maybe other teams will catch on, will do a better job. Maybe you're a little stale, but in Nix and, and really the team's defense, we just broken all records in the history of the NFL in the championship game and winning the Super Bowl. So it's a human, it's a human thing. Um, this year, it was like really, um, apparent to everybody, but especially, I would say to our head coach, uh, that we were able and going to make some significant offensive changes that would get us back to being a championship level offense. And, uh, it's, and, and it resulted in a, you know, a patient process. Um, there's no speed in that process that benefits you in the choice of a coordinator or a head coach. Time is a value and it's an asset. And sometimes, oh, what are you doing? It's taking, no, it's the opposite. Uh, certainly I think the choice usually success gets more correlated with patients and really learning what coaches are out there and what they're thinking and taking your time. You also get the benefit of many other interviewees on what's going on with their, uh, teams and you learn a lot about tendencies, what defenses are doing to those schemes, what, what, what, uh, they're doing to attack advantages that defenses are now gaining. You learn so much in the process that a short interview process, whether it's for head coach or any coordinator, to me is a, is not how I would ever want to conduct it unless you just happen to, you know, think of one person you want, which is rare. We interviewed a lot of people, uh, led by Nick, and what you would be amazed at is the level of expertise of some of these young coaches is extraordinary. The league is very lucky. We've attracted so many bright young people and it's, it's amazing to me to see it and there, um, and Sean's one of them amazing. So I think a couple of things stand out there. Uh, the work ethic, which is something Matt LaFleur talked about, something Nick Siriani talked about. I thought his use of the word innovativeness was very noteworthy. He said it was an A plus there. So clearly Manian impressed him from a schematic standpoint. Um, but I thought there were other things in there that were important with that, which I thought were Jeffrey trying to send some messages. So A, he makes it obvious Nick was behind it. And that's, it was a theme throughout this. Like Nick felt they needed a change on offense and this is why we did it. And at the end of the day, no one's going to convince you one way or the other. If you're someone that you think how he pulls all the strings and Nick like just does what they say, I'm never going to convince you otherwise. If you're someone that believes Nick, right? Like I, then someone who can, who doesn't think that's the case, can't convince you. But I do think Jeffrey intentionally made it clear. Nick picked the staff, Nick picked the offense. Nick wanted the change. True, untrue. I believe it's true from everything I've heard, everything I believe, but like that was a clear message that he wanted to, uh, to send. I also thought he did a little bit of defending and a little bit of flexing, being like, we have a history of finding young gems. Uh, you know, Andy Reed, Doug Peterson, Nick Siriani, he talked about, I believe he says Shane Steichen in there. I don't know if Kellan Moore would be like a young gem, but like they have a history of hiring from, hiring from outside the building and being good at it. So I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt. I think it is fair to question the manion hire. We'll have to see if he's good, he's an experience, like all those things are true. But Jeffrey is right that they, they do have a history of hiring young, young candidates and, and being good at it. And I thought you could really hear the excitement in his voice talking about Sean Manion. Now, another clip from him that I thought was very interesting was he was asked about maximizing Jalen Hertz. And if the offense and the coordinator and the direction they're going was to maximize Jalen. And to be honest, he didn't really answer the question, but I did think there was something in there that was one of the rare times I thought that's a flawed process by the Eagles. Cause overall I thought he came off very smart. Like he's definitely someone you feel good is running the franchise, but I thought this came off like a flawed process. So here is Lurie talking about maximizing Jalen. Yeah, I'm incredibly excited about the, the offensive staff that Nick has put together. It's a, I tell you, this is a real kudos to Nick to recognize what was clearly needed in terms of our overall offensive effectiveness. It's never about one coach, one scheme, one staff or anything like that. That's not the way we operate. We have our own proprietary metrics and ways of measuring offensive defensive performance. And our offense was not what we were either accustomed to or expectant of. And I tell you, Nick, one of the really great qualities is his honesty about his own staff and how he wants the best. And great interview process, outstanding process, as it's been on in, in some, in other cases. Sean, incredibly impressive is all I'm going to say. High, high, you probably talked to people here, work ethic A plus, innovativeness and dynamic, dynamicism, A plus. I like to think, and you never know, we will see that we have a history of finding young gems on offense and defense, starting, you know, back with Gruden, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, especially the hiring of Andy is a non-playcaller. And it just has continued. Shane, whatever. Kellan, it's, it's, I'm incredibly excited at the staff that Nick and Sean put together. So he brings up all the points they scored in the championship game and the Super Bowl, and he kind of talks about how like it's just emotional and regular and like normal to feel like, let's keep it going, let's keep it together. A rare bad thought process from them, like they make so many decisions and they are more emotional than they used to be, but they make so many decisions based off of, you know, like analytics and numbers and history and things like that and, you know, information. And it feels like here he was just kind of like, let's keep it rolling, right? Like, so I just thought, I thought that was interesting. It was just a rare, a rare bad thought process by, by the Eagles and it didn't work out in promoting Ptulo. I thought at the time it was a mistake. I think he did a better job than other people do, but a rare bad thought process from the Eagles. I thought, you know, there was other times and I think some of it's in there where he says a short process is not how I want to conduct it. It's noteworthy next time they hire someone, but he talks about how it was led by Nick and there was a point in the press conference where he talked about they take everything they learned from the interviews and they record the Zoom calls and they go back to them and learn from them. And like, good for them. I think that's smart. I think you keep information that way. If I'm a candidate or a team, there's no shot. I want my candidate interviewing with the Eagles. Like, no wonder the Cowboys wouldn't let their guy interview with the Eagles. They want to come and learn from this guy and like have the Eagles record it all and give the, give, have the candidate give the Eagles like a lecture on offense and what he believes. Like the fact they record it, I feel like I wouldn't feel great about if I was a candidate. I understand why you record it. You want to go back and rewatch the interview and, you know, assess things, but I thought it was pretty surprising. He admitted to, to recording them. If I was a candidate, I wouldn't feel great about that. Now, one of the funny moments of the press conference and Spike, if you're listening, and I think you probably are, Spike had this question and I thought it was a good one. As a voice of the WIP, a voice of the fans, a voice of the afternoon show, I asked Jeffrey, because I think this is a good chance for him to victory lap. Like, Hey, last time we were here, all the touch put, touch push was the rage. You guys had just won the Super Bowl this time around. Not so much. Why do you think that is? And here's what Jeffrey had to say. It's a pleasure to come here and not have to fight. It was very relaxed. I didn't have to bring Jason Kelsey and have to explain the play. I didn't have to show how safe it is. Data proves it out. Maybe it helped. We didn't win the Super Bowl. I don't know what happened. It's a very safe play. I do know that because safety is number one. And then, you know, we dialed down the effectiveness of it on purpose. No, I'm just messing with you guys. We were not that good at it also. And I predicted that to the league when we spoke to them about maintaining the touch push. We said, you know, defenses are going to adapt. There is no play that is not stoppable, including the touch push. And Buffalo is way better at than we were this year. And the rest is history. I was just, it's a pleasure to come to an NFL meet and I have to fight for something so hard. Yes. So you hear him in there, right? Maybe it helped. We didn't win the Super Bowl. And he's right. He's right. Now, I also thought it was interesting in there that part of their argument last year was teams are going to learn how to stop it. And that is what happened this year. He tried to make a joke in there about maybe we ran it bad intentionally. You know, classic Jeffrey Zinger there. But I thought it was the victory lap Nick should have taken when Nick was asked about the touch push. I thought he should have victory laped a little. Although I guess coming off a year where they struggled and the touch push wasn't good, maybe you're not time to victory lap. But I do think it's true. Like they're not being, the touch push is not being attacked because the Eagles weren't as good this year. If the Eagles were good this year, we would be hearing more about the touch push. So thought that was a good moment. So a few other odds and ends with not the audio here, but just wanted to, to, to convey it. He was asked about Sirianni giving him an extension, which he did last year. And he said he's thrilled with Sirianni. He had a line and said, you have to admit he's done a great job. Some people won't admit that. Talked about, you know, his Sirianni's ability to get, to, to delegate his leadership, his ability to assess his own staff. And this will be a discussion we have down the line. Like if Sean Manion has an awesome year, if the Eagles offense looks awesome, if he seems like a stud, it'll be a decision that Jeffrey has to make. And I think he'll stick with Nick. I don't think he will fire Nick to keep the offensive coordinator because of how highly he speaks about him. But I do think it is something that will be discussion. I was a little surprised how much he highlighted being impressive, winning the division. Like I get it. It is hard to do. And the fact that seven of the eight division winners didn't repeat last year is noteworthy. The fact Eagles hadn't done it in 20 years is noteworthy. But like, I don't know. I feel like you don't get to be like Mr. Super Bowl contender and then highlight winning the division. So I was a little surprised how much he did that. One thing he did highlight throughout the press conference and it probably wasn't a few of these answers. It was the 2022 Super Bowl loss really hurt him. Like I think the field probably impacts how he feels about it. I think the call at the end against James Bradbury probably impacts how he felt about it. You wonder if like, now I disagree with this, but like the Ganon thing that impacts it said Jalen should have been MVP of that game. Like he brought it up. He is very hurt. And you know, ultimately you want a owner to care as much as you do. And Jeffrey conveyed that. I thought he really brought that up a few times. I talked about the international game. I think the Eagles are going to London this year. So prepare for that. You got to respect Jeffrey never giving up a home game. It's been a non-negotiable for him. So, you know, noteworthy there. Talked about flag football said he thinks it can have a bright future. I've started to say this on the pod. I think it's true. Like flag football is kind of the NFL's disaster plan. If like physical football starts to be too much of a problem and I could see it going that way. He was asked about the cash spending. Obviously they're not, they're not, he said they're spending as much cash as they normally do. We've talked about this on the pod where over the past two years the idea of saving cash has really been brought up in a way it never has been before. I don't have an answer if he's spending as much cash as he used to, but he defended himself there. And I'm going to end with this. So Jeffrey was asked about Julian Lurie's involvement in the team and you know what the plan is, right? Julian Lurie, obviously his son, very involved with the team, does a bunch of different things. Was at the owner's meetings this past few days. And the question was like, what's the plan? Like is he going to have a new role? Is he going to be more involved? And he touched on Julian in here, but like I just thought overall, this is an answer that if you're an Eagles fan should make you feel really, really good. So here's Jeffrey talking about that. It's funny that I was mentioned. I talk to players all the time. We go out to dinners all the time. I mean, people don't really know the relationship. It's a very close relationship I have with our players. And I've probably talked to AJ, whoever 30 times. So that's, it's just, I feel like at least with our culture, owner-player relationships are meant to be real authentic and interactive and warm and friendly pretty much. So that's the way I operate. And I think I always will. That's the culture I want. So if I've seen on a field, it could be talking to John Doribos about his magic tricks or AJ about the next game or whatever. It never has to do with anything that's particularly relevant, except it's a nice, it's a nice relationship that's not distant. So I think the story of him getting up at 4am and wanting to text Howie of being more involved than he ever has. I think there's truth in the fact that now he can live in his summer home, I guess, the way to put it, like in Florida and basically be involved as he ever was because of Zooms and things like that. I think there's a lot of truth to that. But overall, my main takeaway from this outside of topic takeaways, like AJ takeaways, stadium takeaways was, Jeffrey's a great owner. He's a great owner. Like, again, I always hesitate to say this a lot because I don't want it to come across like I'm some huge home or whatever. But there's going to be times where the Eagles are not operating at this level where they don't win 12 games in a down year, where they don't have an owner like Jeffrey. And God forbid, hopefully he's healthy for a long time. But it shouldn't be looked over what a great owner he is. He's just a great owner, like the Eagles autism stuff that he does. The Eagles are run at a very high level. Are they perfect? No. But he's a great owner. And like having Julian come up under him and being around Howie and Don Smolensky and Nick Siriani is good for the future of the franchise. So we'll see what happens with the stadium. I think they'll build it in South Philly. I think they'll trade AJ. They'll probably have a good year in the football field. But ultimately, I think what you want as a fan is to have a franchise you can be proud of. And I think the Eagles are a franchise that fans can be proud of. And I think that starts with Jeffrey. So that'll do it for the NFL annual meetings. Thank you to everybody that listened over the last few days. It's been a really a lot of fun few days. I don't take lightly how lucky I am to have the job I have and to be the voice and to the guy that asked the questions you want to ask and shoot video for you guys and tweet and all that. Like I'm very lucky and I'm lucky I get it to do it with you guys. So until then, he's Elliott. I'm James.