Hey Guys, Janet's in Therapy! (The Valley Full Recap)

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On a downfall. I think you're right. I think it's just, it's the same every week. You can expect the same amount. Like you said, for better or worse, you're not going to have anything that's going to resemble a huge blow up. That's crazy entertaining. And you're also not going to have anything that's just downright boring. It just, you know, it's, it's there and it might, it doesn't have potential. I don't know. That's, uh, that's the question. That's the question on my mind. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's eight o'clock. And so that'll make it a. I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo bros. Good evening everybody. Welcome back to another episode of brav bros, your favorite podcast from the bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I'm a co host steel Russell joined as always by Santa glute Rita. Glute Rita. Glutes. Yeah, let me see them glutes. Dude, yeah, you want me to show some ass on stream? I'll do it. Yeah, yeah, brother. We're the right place. Um, yeah, I mean, we're, we're, we're back in the valley. I don't know how to feel about it, but we're back in the valley. Well, we actually do start the episode in Santa Clarita and it looks like that house is beautiful. Um, nothing against the house, but this episode kind of confirmed the way I was feeling about Danny. I'm kind of over Danny. I like Nia. I think, I think Nia is actually, and we ended last season saying, maybe Danny and need adult need to be on this show. Maybe they just moved to Santa Clarita and just move on with their lives. I actually think this show needs Nia way more than it needs Danny. And I don't really even care about Danny. He's just kind of a noisemaker. I agree. I think overall it was a solid second episode. Uh, you know, it sets the table for a lot of the drama or lack thereof. We might see this season. I agree with the Danny sentiment. I, I thought I had this guy figured out. I don't think so. I think it's going the other way, uh, unfortunately for him, but yeah, I, Nia, great. You know, she's again consistent. Danny is, he's losing me as well. So it's interesting you said that everybody else I'm good with. I, what scares me about this episode. Okay. Cause the show's good and I want it to continue to be good. What scared me about this one was Lala a little bit. Because it felt ever so slightly like Lala of old at times. And I think that that's where I see this show taking a weird turn. And I don't want that to happen because I actually, I'd like everybody else. I like the Tom Schwartz and Michelle storyline. I think that's funny. I like the Dodie and Luke shit. Uh, Luke needs to clean it up a lot, but I like that. I just, I'm worried about Lala. I'm worried about Brittany. And I'm worried about Danny. Yeah. I mean, I've been worried about Brittany. I was worried about Lala and Schwartz coming back. This episode felt a little too Schwartz and Lala centric. There's a lot of them. I guess we have to do it eventually as long as it doesn't continue to be Schwartz and Lala centric. I'll be okay. Um, the Schwartz and Michelle scenes are, they're just funny. They're awkward as hell. I mean, I'm worried about the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the scenes are, they're just funny. They're awkward as hell. They make no sense to me, but it's, it's kind of entertaining. Kind of funny. That might lose it's lust or two. Brittany. I don't know. This is Britney's. Starting on the path that I was afraid of. That's kind of where we are with her. I didn't want that. And it's, she's enough of a force to ruin a whole show. If you do what they're doing. She needs to be on the outskirts right now. We'll work our way through this episode, but it's gonna highlight a lot of the things that I'm worried about about this show. And it's not highlighting enough of what I'm actually excited about for this show, if that makes any sense. But yeah, I mean, second episode, don't judge us. If we get a little loopy, you know how these things go. I think we should just rip off the bandaid, hop back into this bad boy. Let's go for it. Well, the first meaningful scene that we start out with is Luke and Dodie. And they're talking about Michelle and Schwartz. I think everybody's talking about those two. I mean, it makes sense to me. They're talking down. They are the talk of the town. And it makes a lot of sense, honestly. And the fact that Jesse is probably ironically and condescendingly co-signing it, I don't care. I mean, that's enough for me though, where it's not gonna cause a stupid issue for no reason. It's such a non-factor if those two get together that like I want it to happen. Again, I think that Schwartz is so whatever that if they do hook up and then they don't do anything, it won't even be awkward. It's just gonna be like back to normal. So I'm cool with that storyline, but with the Luke and Dodie shit, episode two, and we're talking about sex again. And I, it's just, dude, even if you don't feel that way, like fake it, don't go on TV and do these shenanigans because it's not gonna come out. Well, I understand what you're saying. You're trying to frame it as our intimacy. And it's about you and me. You just wanna get laid, bro. And like she is not ready yet. And you lay out this whole scene because what ends up happening is now you're gonna make her feel guilty for not being ready. And that's not fair. Like she just pushed a human out of her vagina and you're like, I love your body. Great, thanks. I'm not ready to have sex with you yet, but what about our intimacy? And I wanna get back the fact, here's my thing. We know because they talked about it too much that they point a lot, okay? They were pointing left and right. You could argue that they were pointing that much to get pregnant, just saying, but whatever, he wants to get back to that. Yeah. There's no world in which you're gonna have sex as much as you had sex before you have a kid. It's simply not gonna happen. It seems like common sense. And that's like the big issue. I mean, the big issue is more, you're gonna make Kristen feel worse than she already feels. And you shouldn't be doing that with a woman who just gave birth. So that's where you should probably start. And my big gripe with the whole thing is, Luke is clearly not educated on any of this shit. Doesn't understand what he's saying or what he's doing, how he's making Kristen feel. And we spent the whole first episode with him talking to other people, including us, about how he feels about this. And we don't care. Look, as dudes, nobody gives a fuck how you feel after somebody has a kid. Nobody cares. Like, yeah, are you losing sleep? All right, cool. Which dad isn't. Are you actually carrying some of the load when it comes to the baby? If you are, great. If you aren't, fuck you, whatever. We've kind of moved past all of that. And we've gotten back into this realm that we found ourselves on this show. And unfortunately, we saw conversations and the people that he's talking to in this group are not gonna be helpful. We watched a conversation with Jesse last week, which was not helpful. I'm sure, and even though we didn't really see a scene between him and Danny talking about it, we watched Danny do it with Nia. He is not going to be worse than Luke. It's worse than Luke. So Danny's still worse than Luke, especially with the conversation that they have at the end of this episode. So he's not getting any good advice. Nobody's telling him, hey, man, no, don't do that. We should be doing other things. You should be supporting your girlfriend's fiance. You should be supporting your fiance in this. And as she gets through all of this, and maybe when she's ready, you guys can start having sex again, but you have to be patient and not tell her. Like this is one of those times, and we're all about this in 2026, talking about your feelings. This is one of those times where you just shut the fuck up. You just swallow your pride, swallow whatever issue you have going on and move on with your life and hope and pray that things will start getting back to normal in like two months, dude. Like, JJO buddy, JJO. Literally, like we even have that scene with Danny talking about getting a vasectomy, and he's talking about like, he's not even talking about cranking it. He's talking about having sex again. Like, no dude, that should not be what you should be talking about. They're too horny. They're way too horny. They are way too fucking horny. They need to figure it the hell out. You know, get together. All of them get together, do a circle jerk with a sound bath and just fucking relax. Dude, a circle jerk, great. Literally just sit, like no one's gonna judge it. I mean, you're in LA. Nobody cares. I'm sure that shit happens anyway. Probably find it's probably on like Instagram and TikTok. There's probably a bath house where they promote having a circle jerk, especially after, and it's for guys who are not getting any because their wife just gave birth. And it's probably a health clinic. And there's probably a sound bath behind you too. And all of those things are gonna help you feel a lot better. If you live in LA. You live in any other city, it's fucking weird as hell. But in LA, do it. All the influencers are doing it, go for it. But yeah, this, I'm honestly, I'm just kind of like beating around the bush because this whole conversation just made me feel icky and uncomfortable. And I didn't wanna see it. I do not wanna see that shit. I'd rather see an uplifting conversation. Like make Kristen feel good. She just pushed a baby out. Make her feel good about herself. Make her feel good about how things are gonna be in a couple of months, whatever. That's the way you should be handling it. Not what we just watched. No, and he seems to think that it's all about the physical attributes. Or he's like, I love your body. You look great. That's nice. Thanks. There's so much more going on. And if you wanna really support her right now, hey, you're doing so good as a mom. I'm so proud. I love watching you be a mom. Like stuff like that. Like if you lift her up like that, she might wanna have sex with you sooner. I don't know. But keep the defaults to, I love your body. It's like, that's not the point. Luke, fucking wake up, you dickhead. Go jerk off with Danny somewhere. Jesus Christ. Those are the idiot dudes, yeah. Those are the idiot dudes that have been trained or have like trained themselves to just always tell their girlfriend fiance wife that they look good no matter what. And it seems to work out so far. And they didn't realize that after giving birth, that you should be trying to like uplift them in different ways, not this way. Anyway, let's move on. We get to Brittany and Zach. And this is again, highlighting some of the stuff. We're like, oh, let's maybe not focus on this all season. And scenes from this season show that Brandon is going to be a part of the show. And first looks not great, by the way. Yeah, unfortunately, right away. Yeah, like the first scene we see him in at the end of this episode, I'm like, oh God, that's who you're predicting. Well, we didn't know this shit. And like the way that this conversation goes, like Brittany's takeaway is that Zach is attacking her and doing it like, no, we're all watching. We've watched it for long enough. And just the context of the conversation, of course, is talking about if she's moving too fast. And we get into it pretty much right away. Like, hey, how you feeling? What's going on? You're moving too fucking fast with this guy. Love that. Like, great fucking move. And this is, my takeaway with Zach is, look, I'd rather have a friend like Zach who's going to tell you how it is, who's going to tell you what you need to know. He's going to hit you with a hard truth right away. And all I got from Brittany and all of this is, no, like you have to let me live. And she even says, you know, I just, she contradicts herself right away, right? She's like, yeah, well, I've been single for two years. I'm ready to move on and I'm ready to figure things out. And then she says, whoa, let me live. I've only been single for a little bit. And I just got out of a very abusive relationship. Like, no, you don't get it both ways. You can't figure that out. And we don't know shit about Brandon, by the way. We have no idea of who this guy is. We haven't done our due diligence, mostly because I truly don't care what Brittany's up to in her personal life, but come to find out. He's got three kids with two baby mamas. And apparently both of those relationships are incredibly strained and all indications point to, it's probably his fault. And I'm basing that off of Brittany talking about this guy, Zach talking about this guy and the scene that we get from next week. Yeah, three second clip. Yeah, it seems like you are moving too fast because he gets defensive right away as soon as Zach brings it up. Yeah. And again, like you said, this is who you want. You want this guy. You want the guy that's going to be like, hey, slow the fuck down. Let's look at the red flags. Are you not seeing some similarities between Jax here? And for her to take the stance of, let me live my life. Do you know who you picked the first time? You shouldn't be allowed to pick the second time. You should have, like your friends should absolutely have to vet everybody that you're interested in because of what happened with Jax Taylor. And all Zach is trying to do right here. And I know why he's taking this angle because I'm sure he's had calm conversations. I'm sure he's tried to talk to her and level with her and it's gone over her head. So at this point, he's like, I'm not going to watch you do this again because I care about you. And despite her being a terrible friend to him, he always shows up for her. Zach, Zach's a real one. And like we've talked to Zach a lot. He's a great dude. So if he's talking, fucking listen to him. All he's trying to say, he's not even saying, break up with the guy. He's saying, pump the brakes, slow it down. Can we talk about some of the things that I'm seeing because it's worrying me. Because there are a lot of things here that are very similar to the relationship that you just got out of. And as he's talking more, again, we don't know Brandon for all intents and purposes. We don't care about Brandon at all. But he's part of the show. So we have to talk about him. If Zach is labeling this guy as a problem, I believe he's a problem. And if he's telling you this, again, he's doing it from a place of, I'm not saying break up. I'm saying slow down. And her response, and this is probably why she didn't take on the girlfriend title, is so she could combat these conversations and say, whoa, whoa, he wants to be boyfriend girlfriend. And I said, no. Yeah. But again, that's what we're getting into this stupid label thing that I think is all horse shit. Where it's like, you just went to Cabo with the guy for five days, right? You guys are talking every day. Your FaceTime missed that, the other. The label's irrelevant with how much you have pulled yourself into this relationship already. And that's what Zach's worried about. And that's what makes us at home worried, because we don't wanna fucking watch that, dude. I don't wanna watch that at all. I don't need a Jack's 2.0 in the form of Brandon yelling at the cast members that we just met. That's fucking crazy work. And he's been on the screen literally in a scene from next week that was three seconds long and he's a douche bank. Yeah. I just don't understand. To watch Brittany spin it either in the confessional or when she does it later, when she's talking to her friends who don't actually keep her accountable, I don't care for it. I just simply don't care for it. This is what you get with somebody like Brittany. Like, yeah, unfortunately, it was captivating to watch her and Jack's in the first season. It was captivating to watch her get out of that relationship last year. But then you have to face the facts. Now we've got Brittany who has been a problem in a lot of different instances. Jack's was a way bigger problem, but he's gone. Now we have Brittany who is a problem in her own right in friendships, in dating. And we have to watch all of it. I just don't care. I simply do not give a shit. There's one route that it goes where I'm fine. And that's if it's the comeuppance for her. If this is a- If there's growth, like she sees Brandon do that and immediately cuts him off? No, not that. That's not going to happen. I'm saying if we finally have, because we got a glimpse of it last season, there was no follow through. If we have Dodie, if we have Zach, if we have multiple people stand up and say, I'm fucking done. I've tried. You don't reciprocate this friendship. You leave me out to dry. You put us in bad situations. You don't listen to us. You're not a real friend. If that's where this goes and it's a Czech Brittany season, I'm okay with that. That's a different route that I'm like, all right, because it's time. Simply because from like a real life standpoint, you guys are good friends. Zach, you're a great friend. You don't deserve this shit. Dodie, you're a great friend to Brittany. You ride or die for her. You have your own issues, sure, but you are you and you have stood by her through all of this stuff. So I'm done with the non-reciprocated friendship. So if we get a season of, we're going to bring that to light and really hammer it home, then I'm fine. That would be a good route for me. Yeah, I agree with that. But let's get to Lala. Oh, Lala. Let's get to Lala setting up. Give them Lala. And boy, did we, and she's setting up for Sosa's birthday party. And it's our first glimpse of Jason. And I just wrote boo on my notes, but obviously Janet's a little apprehensive about seeing Dodie and seeing a lot of the other people that she hasn't seen yet. We're getting a lot of awkward arrivals. She's kind of huddled over in the corner and people are walking by or everyone's trying to not make eye contact, all of that good stuff. Well, it is kind of funny that Dodie said and verbatim, it's a one year old's birthday party. Like, what are we going to do? I'm fully capable of walking away and not doing anything. Which it seems like she is, at least in this party. She's here. Yeah, like we know and there were kids around. Maybe it wasn't a birthday party. I don't know, was it Cruz's birthday party? Is that what they're for? It was a pool party. I don't know if it was a birthday party. No, it's a one year old birthday party. It was not one year old. No, if it was Cruz's birthday party. It was like, what, three or four? I just love the idea that Kristen cuts it off. Like it's a one year old's birthday party. Yeah, come on, I'm not going to do anything. No, at a four year old's birthday party, you better fucking get the fuck out of here. But the big difference, and while we're setting up and while Janet's talking about it, first off, Janet's already bullshit. She's already done the line five times now, I started therapy. If you have to say that you started therapy, I don't care what you say. It's not working. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. It's not working. That's worse than using the therapy words. Like we know if somebody drops the line, like, oh yeah, I said, like if it's absolutely organic and we're talking confessional and a producer puts you in that direction and you say, yeah, I started therapy after last year, you know, it was kind of tough, whatever. And you don't bring it up again, but we see you using the obvious therapy words. We know that you're not learning. You're actually using therapy for an attack, which is not good. We don't want to see that. Janet's using it in a, hey, hey, guys, lay off me. Yeah, back off. I mean, please, come on, give me a break. Like I'm just giving me another chance. Like that's what I want to see. But the way Lala goes about it, this is a big difference between the way Brittany goes about it. Lala does say, hey, by the way, there's not going to be a problem, right? I invited Kristen. Oh no, no, no, there's not going to be a problem. Kristen says it too. So she had a conversation, whether it was on screen or off screen, she addressed it, which is how you do it. Lala can do it, which gives me a little bit of hope for Lala. Brittany can't do it. Brittany beat around the bush and said, well, you know, yeah, Janet's probably not even going to come. Why would Janet not come? You invited her. That's stupid to think that knowing where Kristen and Janet are. So that just immediately more negative points towards Brittany. A little slight positive points towards Lala, just for acting like a normal human being. But I completely agree. I mean, she leads it off and I'm like, oh no, that's the route she's taking this season. We saw a glimpse of it last week and I was like, all right, it's still too early. Maybe we're going to get a different route. No, she's going with the leave me alone route. I've been through enough route. It's like, you don't get to dictate that because of your behavior last season, because she literally says, I don't want to feel like that anymore. Last summer was tough and the group got torn apart. You tore the group apart. That was you and your husband. Nobody else did that. That was you, Janet. Now you're like, everyone's being so mean to me. You were such an asshole last year. And like, I'm not saying that Danny doesn't deserve a check. I don't know what's going on with that whole situation as far as what he's up to. I'm not going to lose anything. I'm not sure. That aside, you were still a piece of shit to everybody else on the show. So if we remove the Danny situation, you're still an asshole and you don't even see that. You think that it's like a mutual playing field in which like, well, they were mean to me too. It's like, no, you started it. You thou hath cast the first skill. She gets the Britney voice. I don't know. It just pops up every now and then. But like, it's just crazy to me. And like, Nia, I actually believe her when she's like, I don't really know this attention. Like, maybe it's awkward for her. Like, I don't care. She's not on my radar. She does seem very unbothered when Janet's around. And I think that's also, she seems to have a lot going on. So she might be in her own head about stuff. But that's, this is, look, I'm not saying or claiming that Nia is in therapy, but she strikes me as somebody who has gone to therapy and has learned how to figure out situations and how to navigate issues. She is an issue with Janet. It seems like something that we're never going to be able to fix. So why am I paying it any attention? I've got things going on in my life. That actually need my attention and I need to figure out, I'm not really worried about how Janet feels about something. I'm not going to be coerced or forced to talk to Janet in a way that is unsuitable for me. That's how Nia is going about it. So I actually do believe her when she says, I'm not going to pay her any minds. I've got enough going on. Yep. I want a hundred percent believable. And regardless, like that is how you handle this situation as an adult, as a grown up. Now here's where I get nervous. Okay. It seems like such a one off like not don't get stuck on it. But when Lala goes, I'm going to get the lifeguards number. Fine. Okay. That's fine. But then when she goes, if it wasn't my daughter's birthday, I would go have a quickie. I'm like, that's I don't believe you when you say these things. I used to do this on Vanderpump all the fucking time. My point being, it's not that serious. It's not that big of a deal. I like the Lala in the scenes that we've gotten her up to this point. I think she's done just fine. I think that if that's her route this season, great. She was able to say to Janet episode one, can you acknowledge that you were part of the problem? So on and so forth. Right. She's navigating the group. Well, she has seemed to kind of settle in. Great. I'm not saying she's not going to be a problem on the show. I don't know yet, but when she does stuff like this, I'm like, ah, only because it's a callback to the Lala of old. And that makes me nervous. No, it's totally fair. I think that's part of what I was expecting from her. Okay. And the fact that she did that didn't really phase me. It's look, you're going to have eye roll moments when it comes to Lala. I can handle an eye roll moment. That's okay. You're right. That's kind of where my classification of that type of behavior is. Okay. It's the forcing of narratives, which later when she's forcing, not forcing, but pushing together Janet and need to talk. That's not even what I'm talking about either. It's the forcing of a narrative. It's, you know, popping off and, you know, trying to be a big tough guy, which is what she's doing in the yard. Yeah. Like all of that shit. I don't care for those things. This is, this is what you're going to get with Lala. And again, it's, I think it's an interesting choice to make her a full time guest member. I'm still going to say that we're going to have to take it as it goes. I'm not going to get upset when she does stuff like this though, because this is what we're expecting. Eye roll moment. You're right. I'll try to chalk it up to that when those little ones happen. And like, it has nothing to do with, like, I could give a shit if she wouldn't have to quit you with the lifeguard. It's more so she makes these statements. I'm like, I don't think that's who you really are. I'd be surprised. It's a shock value. If she had a quickie with the lifeguard, I'd be shocked. Yes. She always claims that she wants to do that or she would do that. If she actually followed through on something that she was claiming she was going to do, I'd be so shocked. Oh God. Remember the honey guy? Yeah, dude. Bees. Oh, fuck. Sticky honey. Ah, stop it. Yeah. It's really, really sticky. You don't know how to dirty talk, sir. It's a sweet. Sticky, sweaty. Yeah, sweat. Let's go upstairs. I hated that. Oh God, that gives me the heebie-jeebies. If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't go digging. You don't want to watch that scene. Anyway, PR was that Valley. Wasn't that Valley? I think it was Valley. I think it was last year on the Valley or two years ago. It might have been season one of the Valley. I think it was. Doesn't matter. Don't look it up, everybody. Seriously. What the Don? The Don. The Don. Yes. Yeah, that was it. That is the type of behavior that I'm talking about. If that comes up, I will fast forward. Yes. I'm just telling everybody now, including you, if that comes up, I'm skipping. Right? Yeah, it's fair. That's fair. I don't need to hear Honey talk again. Nope. But Michelle and Schwartz are genuinely hitting it off. Like their chemistry is undeniable. Is it awkward? Sure. Is it real? Yeah. It really is because they're just like giggling back and forth. They're smiling and Schwartz is going to his confessional. Like, yeah, she's kind of a baddie. She's kind of a milf. And then the producer's like, what do you mean? It's like, OK, buddy. That's a fucking term, Lio. It had to be. Germain fucking dick. But Dodie and Brittany are talking and this is where you get the line from from Brittany where it's like, well, Zach went in on me. It's like, what? That's the route we're going. He went in on you for trying to be a good friend. OK, boo, tomato, tomato. Come on. But the real conversation is Jasmine and Janet. Again, pointing to what I was talking about earlier, the only issue was not with Danny and Nia. There were issues across the entire group last year, Jasmine being one of them because Janet felt the need to keep inserting herself into a situation involving Jasmine, even though Jasmine and her wife or fiance had decided to move on from it. Janet could not. She was like a dog with a bone would not stop. Janet tries to take the route of, hey, wanted to talk to you. Things haven't been 100 percent. You mean a lot to me and I apologize for speaking on stuff I wasn't involved in. And I was like, I don't believe you, but fine. Fine. If we can get to a cordial place, whatever, that's fine with me. I love that Jasmine's keeping her guard up. She's like, yeah, I know it's really not the time or the place. You know, it's just maybe we can have this. It's a much bigger conversation we need to have. And that's what I love about Jasmine. She's not going to sugarcoat things. She's like, if there's an issue, like we're going to handle this issue. We're not going to do it right now, but we will talk about it. I love you. Go bot. Janet doubles down and she's like, look, you know, I just didn't realize at the time, like why I was so mad and I just started therapy, third therapy reference already. Pouring it on real thick. I was using a lot of words with the intention to hurt last year. So this year I'm working on communicating without using hurtful language. Jasmine's response. I had a funeral for you in my head. You were dead to me pretty much, which I love this. And she says it so softly. I'm like, you just really told her that you said it and killed her off. Super softly. And then really hammered it home by saying, you know, we were so close. We were such good friends. I was thinking about you at my wedding and then I had to think about you not at my wedding and I'm like, wow, that's kind of crazy that I'm going to have a wedding. And Janet's not going to be there. That's where Janet turns. This is what I'm talking about with Janet. She's trying all this bullshit. She's trying all this soft speak, this therapy speak to try to get back into good graces of people, not because she really wants to be friends with them, but because she wants to be in a better standing for the show. Now. I had to be quickly reminded because right after this conversation, she goes over and she's talking to Michelle and I'm like, oh, wait, you're cool with Lala and Michelle. You don't need to be friends with everybody. You could just do this. And this goes back to what we tell Janet all the time. If you're going to be a villain, you're going to have a much more, a much more fun time on the show being an actual villain. Like there's no reason to try to like what build these bridges back and try to get back in the good graces of people when you're inevitably going to turn on them eventually, and that's just what you're going to do. Like just lean into being a villain. You'll be more entertaining. But the end of the conversation, this is where you see your turn because right when Jasmine says, I have to imagine you not at my wedding anymore. And that's kind of crazy to me. Well, I look, you know, going back to that comment on the, I mean, like, you just made a lot of comments about me that really hurt me. So like, do you ever think about like, maybe we could apologize for that? No, absolutely. The fuck not. Absolutely not. What are we doing here? You're, you have way more to make up for than she does. And the fact that you're now pivoting because she said you're not coming to the wedding anymore to, I think you owe me an apology is crazy work. Again, if you're going to, if you're going to do that, just lean into it. Just keep doing it and keep doing bad things and keep like talking behind people's backs. I just, I just remembered who was at that fucking party too. Oh, Pink Boots Jared. I know, dude. No, Jared's the friend. I thought the same thing. Pink Boots was a different guy, but that was his, his crony. Sure. I'm pretty sure. Pink Boots. I think Jared had the Pink Boots on. I don't think so. I think there was, it was somebody. I don't think it really matters because they're, they just morph. I assume that they're like two guys that just kind of like morph in and out of each other, but Jared was Pink Boots. I thought Jared was friend of Pink Boots. If you remember correctly, and while Steel's looking this up because he needs to know. Yeah, that would drive me crazy. Well, if you remember correctly, Jared was the friends that not only was talking shit with Janet and then decided when, I believe it was Janet decided to call who was, oh, when she was calling Zach, she decided to call Zach, put him on speaker phone and Jared was snickering in the backgrounds. Jared was also the one who was at the party when he found out and everybody who wasn't invited to the baby moon found out that they were coming. Jared was then gauging everybody's reaction and reporting back to Janet. Jared has no place on this show. Why is he even allowed to be there? He should have. Again, this goes back to Jeremiah. If a phone, if like the release form goes out. No, to Jared. That should be a very simple. No, brings nothing to the show and he's just not a good person. So I was correct. Simon was Pink Boots or Croc of shit boots as that calls him. Jared was his crony and they were doing the same shenanigans, but the Pink Boots scene was Simon reporting back. But yes, Jared is 100% in cahoots with them. And yeah, I was so pissed when I was like, why the fuck? It's this guy on the show. That is an awful idea. Germaine, way to go. You're going to ruin another show. But yeah, watching her pivot to actually, you hurt my feelings. Let's go back to that scene then, Janet. Let's see how we got there. You were the problem. You set Jasmine off. Jasmine clocked you because it was building up for a long time. And then you and Jason decided to double team her. Like, that's what we watched. 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So I, I'm assuming, but we didn't get an actual answer. I'm sure we'll be able to figure it out over the next couple of episodes just to kind of watch the interactions between Lala and Zach, if there are any, and we'll be able to see exactly what that is. But yeah, I mean, I guess it doesn't need to be if Jesse's left out, we need somebody else left out, let them go hang out during this so we can get a side by side, see what we need up. I do also, I enjoy their friendship. I like their scenes together. They're always entertaining. I don't think you could pay me to go drink at a bar or at the sit in an airplane seat. Like that's insane. That bar looks, I love a gimmicky bar. I really, really do. I especially love a gimmick drink. That bar looks so stupid. That was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Hey, you know that feeling of it and crammed into a fucking soda can 30,000 feet in the air. Why don't you pay to come drink it one? No, what you should do is let's do like a 1950s style aviation bar. Now we're talking and then you can smoke indoors. Like do that. Come on. I'm in. I don't smoke cigarettes, but I'll go crank a heater in one of those. Fuck yeah. But they're talking about Lacey and this is going to be a fucking disaster at some point. I already know it. Like the way that Jesse talks about it is as though he has found the love of his life, his long lost love of 10 years ago. She was 23. I was 30. We texted all day every day. We reconnected after 10 years. And I feel what he's saying right now, by the way, I feel like we're equals and intellect. He's calling Michelle stupid. Yeah. He's not smart enough to talk to me. Lacey is. Okay, Jess. But this whole idea that Lacey is this just wonderful person that's trying so hard to, to unite this modern family and Michelle is just this big speed bump that won't get out of the way. No, I don't believe you. I don't believe it's this cordial at all. She hit your ex with a cease and desist letter over nothing. So no, I don't think she's suddenly like this. Oh, she's so easy breezy. She's awesome. She's the love of my life and the light of the world. I know this is, this is expected behavior. This is exactly how I thought this was going to go. We're going to get so many scenes of the two of them that seem very forced, like the dinner that we have later in the episode. I hated the dinner. I hated it. And it's all just to paint her as not that big of a deal, not that big of a threat. She's a sweet girl. She would never do anything trying to make up for the season's assistance and all the other things that we heard off camera from last season. It's all just making up. Let's just try to get into a better light. We'll try to do this. And look, Jesse's in a good position. It seems like everybody on the cast obviously aside from Michelle, Janet, they all like them. Everybody seems to be fine with them. La la's a non-factor. He's in a good spot. So he's in a good spot to do this, to bring her on like this. It's going to hit the fan at some point. Oh yeah. It doesn't really matter because eventually you are going to have to have scenes where Lacey's sitting down with somebody else and she's going to have to talk about this and she's going to have to have an actual interaction with somebody who's going to ask her real questions. It's all going to blow up. Oh yeah. And it's going to blow up in tremendous fashion. And then you're going to see Lacey, then you're going to get them asked peeled back and really understand who she is. I think. And you know, I don't like to rush to judgment, but based on the dinner scene alone and the season desist and the other stuff we heard last season, I have an idea. I'm not going to confirm it yet. I'll wait and see because I'm a fair judge of character. I like to think, but I think I have her pegged. We'll see in time. Jesse also cosigns Michelle and Schwartz in this moment. Again, it's in a very condescending way, but for me, that's enough. It's the door's open. I want to see those two do whatever they're going to do. But let's get back to La La's and even in this, like, you know, Luke even saying to Schwartz, like we boinked before the party. It's like, I just, I just stopped talking about sex. Yeah. Like just for one scene, every scene that Luke has been on, he has been discussing sex. I know. And it's almost like, like I wanted to reach through the screen because that's you just keep it to yourself. Like this isn't like a full circle moment. Like, hey, we finally banged. Like if Schwartz had this conversation and him and Michelle were like, will they, won't they, will they, won't they? And then eventually sit down and was like, yeah, we hooked up last night. That's that type of scene. You sitting down and telling other people like, hey, we finally had sex. Like, no, it makes me feel icky. It makes me feel like Kristen gave in to you because you wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. And that makes me feel weird. Yep. It makes me feel yucky and I don't care for it. And I would also like to see one scene in which you're not talking about sex. Yeah. Just one fingers crossed. Maybe next episode we'll see, but Nia and Lala are talking. And I don't mind this role for Lala. If she wants to take this on, especially in this fashion where she's kind of neutral, she's like, hey, I just want to find level ground for you and Janet. Like a lot of damage has been done. But another thing is, and this is a great question from Nia. Is it really to try to get along again? Or is Janet just fed up with feeling uncomfortable in a group setting? Because that's not an apology either. And it's 100% the latter, as we're going to find out very shortly. But that's that was the best way to put it because that's intentions. What are her intentions? And you know what they are, Nia. She's smart. She knows what's going on. But she is also a classy lady. So she's like, yes, I'll have a conversation with her. Bring her out. Lala goes and gets Janet, brings her back. Shortest conversation ever. The weirdest fucking conversation I have ever seen because Janet once again, and she's trying to do it in a disarming way, puts the onus on Nia. Is there anything that you want to get off your chest? No, dude. Nope. No, there's a million things you have to say to me. I don't have to say shit to you. It was coded in a way that Lala set it up by saying, hey, you know, don't jump on her. Just hear her out. See what she has to say. Now, Lala, that made me think that Lala talked to Nia and said, hey, would you be interested in having a conversation with Janet? Do you have things to get off your chest that you want to tell her? And Nia said, yes. Now, I don't really fault Lala for this because I think that going into it, she's like, oh my God, like they agreed to have a conversation together. That's cool. Let's see what happens. And I'm sure Nia has some things to say to Janet. So, hey, hear her out. Like that's a normal way to speak to somebody who has issues with somebody else that you're setting up for a conversation. Not really Lala's fault. Nia had nothing to say. She wanted to actually see what Janet was going to say. Like, fine, I'll be the adult in the room. I'll be the bigger person. Come on over. Have your conversation. See where that goes. I'm actually a little interested to hear what you have to say. Janet didn't really have anything to say. She was hoping that Nia was going to do all the talking and then she could apologize and then hope to get an apology in return. Again, too far gone. Same situation with Jasmine. We just watched two different conversations. Jasmine spoke a little bit more than Nia did. Actually a lot more than Nia did because Nia didn't say a word. But she thought going into this like, all right, cool. We're bridging the gap. We can have a conversation. This is how we're going to communicate moving forward. I find out what you're feeling. You find out what I'm feeling. She quickly realizes, no, it's too far gone. It's over. But this is when Janet becomes Janet because she immediately runs back in, tells Lala right away and then pulls Jared into the bathroom to have a conversation. She's like, I guess, you know, it's just too far gone. She can't say anything to me. Like, nope, nope, nope, nope. There's the mask completely slipping off. And again, we're telling you, let the mask fall. Go be that person. I don't care what you do. But it's better than this. I mean, yeah, obviously it's a little funny to watch, but it's way better than this. It was crazy. And then when she went and got Jared, first of all, let's just, since we're doing the therapy thing, what that scene told me, Nia's protecting her piece. She's doing the work and she knows how to handle this. Janet, the one proclaiming therapy is not doing the work and it shows in this moment because she's not able to formulate a sentence in which you can say, hey, a lot of shit happened last year. I'm sorry for X, Y or Z. You didn't know what to say. So instead you take this moment, spin it, take your buddy, Jared, who we do not need on this show. Jared needs to be gone immediately and take pink boots with you. But you go to Jared and you say, she stared at Nott. And if the conversation goes below the surface, she doesn't want to talk about it. You didn't present anything to go below the surface. You didn't do anything. And now you're going to try to paint it as though once again, well, is me, Janet. They're not talking to me. Why though, dude? Why? Why are we not talking to you? Fuck and take your head out of your ass for two seconds and just understand. I was at least happy to see when Nia comes walking in and she's like, I got to go pump. Let me go find a bathroom, goes right in, walks in. Janet actually said, go come in. Come on in. No, which is so fucking funny. But when Nia goes and she's walking around, she's like, all right, I'm going to pull Danny in here because I got to let them know what the hell is going on. I was worried that Nia was actually like putting up a front when she was talking to Janet and she was actually going to sit down and be like, it's just so sad. I'm breaking down like, no, they were laughing. And look, I don't even care about talking about Danny because I don't really care what he has to say. But Nia, I was worried that she was actually putting up, but she wasn't. She really genuinely does not care. That's where she is. She's protecting her peace. She's not going to let Janet get to her. That's awesome. That's what I want to see. That's what I want your response to be. It was the weirdest conversation ever. I didn't say a word. She clearly didn't want to say anything. She wanted to hear me out and that's not how this is going to go. So I'm going to move forward with my life. That's exactly what I want from that. Unbothered. If everybody can remain unbothered while talking to Janet, like we saw Jasmine do, like we saw Nia do, it's going to drive her insane. And it may very well push her to that villain role that we so desperately wanted to take on. Because that's the only possible way that she's going to be likable in any way, shape, or form. And I say that with a grain of salt. But let's go check in with the ball buddies because Danny and Zach are on the way to get snipped. Danny again, like the more he talks, the less I need him to talk at this juncture. I don't even want to talk about Danny at all. Like this is this was the scene, by the way, that really solidified it. Obviously, the end of the episode. The end of the scene is solidified for me. The end of this scene is what solidified it. The end of the episode. The end of the episode. Yeah. No, this was where I'm at. Like we started the episode, we went through episode one. I kind of had that feeling. This scene, I'm like, I don't care. He makes dirty old man jokes. Yeah. And like, I don't want to hear it because like you're not funny. And Zach even says it like he's his biggest fan. He laughs at everything. The doctor gets in on it like, okay. The doctor was wild. The doctor was wild. But then it's more of like, are you doing this for yourself? Are you doing this for Dan? Well, you know, I wanted to have another kid, but she's not into it. So like, I don't know. And we get like a glimpse of him talking about like, I'm not going to be able to have, like again, I'm not going to be able to have sex for a couple of days. I'm not going to be able to do anything for a couple of days. Is this going to hurt? And then he just makes a ton of jokes. So like, I know I don't want any more from you. I want nothing more from you. Also, given what went down last season and some of the rumors and accusations thrown around, do you really want to be sitting there making these kinds of jokes? No. Really a good look for you to be like, well, who's going to take care of my wife after the 35th time she's going to be a wheelchair doc? Yeah. Dude, like, no, what? That's not even a funny and to the gross. He's making dirty old man jokes. And again, that makes me think like you have a reputation. Maybe don't confirm the reputation with weird jokes and hey, doc, let's not comment on his balls. Maybe they are really big. No, no, no, absolutely not. I was zacking that scene because he's just making faces. And I felt that. Now let's get to the most uncomfortable dinner I've seen in a long time. We get Lacey and Jesse and I don't even really understand what happened in the beginning. She got ambushed by a psychic named Lola who had something dire to tell her. And, you know, people think she's bougie and she's like, I like to play the reverse Uno bougie card. I'm not like that, but I am that. She literally says she's both things in the same sentence. Then she starts talking about her house and then I figured out their relationship. He's a cuckold. He likes it because she just shits on him and he's like, yeah, I love you. Thank you. I love you. Thank you. Yeah. The whole scene was that for me. That's exactly what I thought about this whole scene. And again, it kind of furthered my point of he's trying to paint her into the nicest possible picture. Don't do that because we're going to find out eventually. And look, she might be that. She might not be that. I don't really care. I want to watch it unfold and she's not that. It's just pushing me in the other direction. But yeah, the whole conversation is like, it's supposed to give us a glimpse into what they want for their futures. And I actually did like that Lacey was saying, like, as I, if I have a, you know, I have a child and in there, she said adolescent, which was wrong because I think her kid's like three years old. Do you have a toddler? I know. Adolescent is like, yeah, whatever. But she said, yeah, as long as I have an adolescent child, I'm not going to live with a man. I'm like, okay. That's great. That kind of makes sense. Like that's fair. And I do understand like grounded wise in your family, you have a child, he has a child. Like, yeah, this is how you should be dating. It makes sense. It's a little wonky that you live all the way down in OC and you're coming up to LA to film, to stay with him, to do whatever you want. But all I really got from that part of it, the family part of it was it seems like you're, I don't know if she has a daughter or a son. It didn't really, she had one of those ambiguous names for her kid that I couldn't really figure out. But it seems like their kids get along. They have their own language. It seems like they're bullying the parents, which is funny. So it does seem like their relationship is good at the very least. I'm okay with all of that. It's just all the bullshit that comes along with it where I'm like, dude, just know, let her be yourself and you be yourself. Stop being this weird version of Jesse. Go back to being your normal Jesse self, which is going to come out eventually because it's going to get exhausting to put up this front. Yeah, this weird sniffling, wormy Jesse, I do not care for. Like in, what's the word? I can't even figure it right now. Second episode of the night, but back to back to back sentences. There's a house next year's for rent. That's out of your price range. I'm a little clink. You're super clinky. I'm extremely happy with you, Lacey. And you know what? I'm going to try to take down my complaining, my defensiveness and stupidity. It's not stupid. It's lack of self-awareness. So she said all of these things to this man. And instead of being like, Hey, that's kind of mean. He's like, I love talking like that to me. I love it when you put me in my place. So that's what I really need. And like, yeah, I weirdly get what he means. I mean, she is very different from Michelle, it seems. And she's going to tell you when you're wrong, which maybe you do need somebody like that. But maybe I tell you when you're wrong, when you're not wrong. Yeah, that's true too. But the way he's going about it just feels weird. I don't like it. It made me feel like he's trying to relate to her and everything. And she's not giving the same energy. He's like, I love you very much. Thank you. Thanks. And then she says, I swear I'm really nice and loving. You want to kiss me? No, I love you. Thank you. Look, again, if it didn't feel so manufactured, I'd be like, all right, that's like everybody's got a weird quirky relationship. We deal with this all the time. We talk about relationships. Some of them make no sense to us, but we can tell that you guys love each other. When you do that, if you just did that in a nutshell, and it was a very weird scene, we'd have a couple of questions, but it would be like, okay, like, yeah, maybe it works for you guys. Great. When you're adding all of these other layers on top of it, trying to make her this person that she's not and trying to make yourself this person that you're not, it makes it weird. And now we have even more questions and don't just don't go about it that way. Because I don't want that. I like Jesse. I love Jesse sometimes. Just be yourself. It's weird. I don't like watching it. I don't like it. It makes me feel weird. I don't, I just don't like it. There's too many scenes in this show right now that are just making me feel like not fun, uncomfortable. It's like, ooh, that's weird. It's like straight up. I'm uncomfortable right now. I don't want to be. Agreed. Oh boy. Well, Michelle and Schwartz go on a date, even though Michelle says it's not a date, but there's definitely a date. And they go to a one of those salt caves that we've seen in the past and we've seen this salt cave in the past. Is it this one? Okay. Yeah. Sure. I don't, yeah, it wasn't LA. You're right. But there was one in Salt Lake City too. That makes sense. You know, so totally. But anyway, they're doing a little sound bath in there and they're really connecting. And I, if there's one thing I can say for Schwartz, he is good at listening. You know, like we've seen him in this role many times with many different people. And, you know, Michelle has been through a lot. Her mom passed away last year as we know it was, it was part of the season. It was very sad. And she also is going through this terrible divorce with Jesse and you got Schwartz over here who's on the tail end of the Schwartz and Sandy and Scandalfall. And all of that crazy shit. So there's a lot that they need to work out in this, in this salt room. I love that we're seeing emerald eagles screaming. That's awesome. I think he might have taken a little something before he went in that salt room, but that's fine with me. And then he got Michelle who's like completely buying into this whole thing. You know, it's like, so healing, the energy's bouncing off the walls. And yes, I know I sound crazy right now. That's all I need. I need the self-awareness and I'm cool. I'm like, all right, at least you know that it sounds a little wacky. But when they get done their sound bath, they're just talking back and forth. And Tom is talking a little bit more about his family. As we know through the years, his family is kind of a strange dynamic, you know, his brothers and then his dad, his dad's currently living alone. He's got like a brain bleed right now. Meanwhile, Michelle is talking about her mom and watching her pass away and that she's just barely surviving right now. She's still not okay. She's like breaking down and crying while she's driving, crying before bed. All this is telling me is that these two are a great rebound for each other and they just eat the co-hats upon. All this is telling me is they should get married because it works. No. So what do you mean? We just watched Jesse and Lacey have a very weird conversation. Yeah. Actually dating and talking about futures. These two should be well past them. These two should be two years into their relationship. It makes total sense to me. And look, I fully support it. I don't support the sound bath and all the other stuff, but I support this. That's for sure. Yeah. I, you know, in the end of it too, I was like, come on, Schwartz, make a move. Because she was like, She made me upset though. You got to make a move from that. What do you mean? She was like, whoever, yo, you got, oh, I see what I see. Yeah. I got there. I understand how you, I didn't take it that way. But I see who's that going to be. No. So excited the next time I get to kiss somebody, who's it going to be? No. See, I took it the complete opposite. I took it as like, who's that going to be? Not you. If she said that, she wouldn't have made it. The eye contact tells me that she was talking to him. Sure. It's pretty fucking weird. So I can't tell me after they both talk about their feelings, talk about their emotions, talk about sex, and then they get to the point of talking about smooching that she wouldn't have been like, come on over here and give me a smooch pal. That's what I got from it. I took it as a full blown friend zone. Oh, I didn't think so at all. I'm going to go ahead and put this out to the audience. See you guys. Let us know in the comments. That actually adds up perfectly for these two. We have no idea how to make heads or tails. Obviously, Shorts would be into it. But with Michelle, who is at sometimes very robotic and very confusing, and Shorts, who sometimes I don't know if he's being real or if he's acting, this makes total sense that we don't know. I know. But let's put it out to the other. Put out to you guys. You tell us in the comments if you think that she wanted Shorts to make a move or if she was friend zoning Shorts. I'm curious to see what you have to say. But I guess we got to talk about this conversation. I also forgot that the Valley is like a darker show. I forget that aspect of it where they really lean into like shit that makes you uncomfortable. And I don't think that that doesn't have longevity. I think they're going to have to pivot away from making us feel weird all the time. You can't carry it. The first season it was just like, whoa, what are we watching right now? Last year was just so tumultuous with Jax. I need to feel differently moving forward. Happier. Yeah, I just feel gross. And this scene didn't help at all because Danny and Nia are talking. And she's like, how was the doctors? Like, oh, I like them a lot. But did you know I have to ejaculate 35 times, period. Or you wait six weeks. Can we not add that one in there? We're just going to say straight up that you have to come 35 times. Yeah, but he's also saying like the doctor told me I can't even move for like 10 days. I've been reading for 10 weeks. I thought that was like a joke. I wasn't sure. He's hard to read. Dude, he's hard to read, but like he's annoying. And I just, I don't like him. I simply do not like him as a person. I agree. And this scene kind of, this is the one that nailed that one home for me because Nia's talking. And Nia's really talking, right? Like she's a confessional saying that she loves the house, but she feels really isolated and removed from her friends. Obviously Doe and her daughter are very close in age. So it'd be really nice to pop over and hang out with her. She doesn't have that anymore. Took her two hours to get home the other day, stop to feed the kid this, that, the other. And she's talking and really opening up to Danny saying like, you know, I want to give my all to the kids. But like, you know, meanwhile, this new baby's not taking a bottle. I've never dealt with that before. Life with four kids, the house is always a mess. My nervous system's a mess. I got to clean up the house before bed. I got to work, all this other shit. Like it's just a lot. It's a lot on my shoulders. Real shit, real conversation. Hey, help me. Spouse, Danny's response. Just focus on what's important. All the love making on the calendar. I started to put together. Fuck you in the face, pal. Damn. I hate it. That was the worst. I was like, dude, she's breaking down in front of you. She is literally saying to you, I'm on the verge of a burnout. I'm overwhelmed and I need help. And your response is I can't wait to bang later. Fuck you. I like any good will I had towards Danny, which was not a lot, is gone entirely. That was so shit, dude. Yeah. And it was also like, it was just again, it was a very consistent episode, but it was a shitty way to end the episode. It's like, all right, really, like, come on. I hope the audience feels the same way. Our audience is cool. They always get the, they're on the right side of history. This is a funny one. When we get some questions here for Jacqueline Michelle Cress, is Jason purposely being edited out? I'm cool with it. I fucking hope so. I hope so. He is so bland, even when he's on the show. And yeah, last season, I need no more Jason on my screen. Yeah. Rachel Nicholas. Scooby is the name of Shooter's Dog. Sure is. Great boy. Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo. Here we go. Thank you, Leah Hall 90. What the actual fuck, Danny? Is this the real him or for the cameras? It doesn't matter. It's the real him. Yeah, it doesn't matter, but this is probably the real him. Bleh. Make up. The same thing. Why is no one telling Luke and Danny to not pressure their wives for sex? We don't know, but we're yelling it over here. Maybe they can hear us through the microphone. Stop it. From Tay Kessner on a scale of one to 10, how annoyed was Shooter during the soundbath scene? I mean, soundbaths are always, you're going to catch me on a 10 no matter what. However, Schwartz and Michela are very interesting people. So it did take away a little bit, but it's still an absolute 10. I will never deviate from that. Uh-huh. Oh, this is actually really funny. From Kohli Marie 1, why is Janet dressed like a zookeeper? And also, do you like Lacey holding out judgment for Lacey, but they're setting her up very weirdly and being Jesse and Lacey. But Janet is dressed like a zookeeper because she sucks. I don't have anything else to say about that. She's brutal and I don't think Lacey's going to be a nice person, but time will tell. Let's see. This could be anybody from 77CareBear44. Cy, why the hell is blah, blah on our screens again? She's already trying to start shit and I hate it. I'm assuming it's Janet, but that could be anybody. Come on, dude. I know it's a second episode, but you're thinking. Oh, yeah. Also, my girlfriend in the background just yelled, blah, blah. Sorry. Who the fuck is this? Well, the funny thing is, Lala, I also don't think she's trying to start shit this episode, but it is funny. I think that's just the base level for everybody in the audience watching her. Mikey White, do we think Nio was justified in not taking the bait to air her grievances with Janet or no, absolutely justified. She has no Janet shit. No, no. Janet is the one that has to take all of the onus and answer for last season. Again, you can take the Danny part out of it. She had issues with everybody. She had issues with the Nia stemming from other shit. Like she was a train wreck last year, so she needs to get on her knees and beg for forgiveness. Oh, did we ask this one? J. A. B. The Hut, 713. Will Schwartz be the number one guy in the group? Zach's still there. Zach's number one in the group. Jesse for me is number two still. I think Zach's got a firm hold on number one. But I mean, Schwartz is ahead of Luke right now for sure. Oh, yeah. Certainly. Schwartz is doing fine. Schwartz is doing completely fine. Schwartz is exactly what we thought Schwartz was going to be. Yep. RMB124 is Danny the most punchable of all the Bravo husbands. I say yes. That last scene was brutal. Yes. Right now. Frequency bias. But yeah, right now he definitely is. I mean, that's a very, very fluid list. But today, yes. Today he is the most punchable. Oh, and here we go. We can end on this because this is confirmation. From RMB, that's the same salt room from the Valley Persian style with Gigi and Reza. Here we go. Thank you. Thank you. We needed that actually. We love a full circle moment. Thank you so much. So yeah, I mean, the question marks, right? Lots of question marks of where the show is going to go. There's pieces here to make it good. Like it still has the cast that can perform. It's just more, I hate doing this already. But I'm going to point at Jermaine and say, where are we pointing the storylines this season? What are we aiming for? Because as of right now, no one cares about the shit that's currently happening. I'm sorry. I don't at least. And are we once again highlighting, oh God, it's so Jermaine coded. All these Jeremiah moments, we're highlighting these shitty dudes and their shitty dude behavior. Again. It's like he's got a fucking boner for a fuckboys. Yep. Damn it, dude. He should have gone away with Jax, but we'll see everybody. I went into this episode thinking, you know, it was pretty good second episode. I'm leaving this review as not nearly as confident. Little club, pal. You said before it was a good second episode. Then we started talking about it. I didn't say good. I never once said good. Roll the tape. Not good nor is it bad. Never good. Never bad. It's always. I'm going to go back. Right there. Check the film. But whatever you want. I am going to do whatever I want. You're not my dad. Pig boots. You're not mad at me or mad at you. You're going to hate my father. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. That's our show, bruv. Rose right here. Reality TV is messy. Pop culture is louder than ever. And the internet. Completely unhinged. Welcome to Roxanne. And Chantel. The podcast where cousins Roxanne and Chantel break down reality TV, celebrity drama, and the stories everyone's texting about. We recap the shows. Spill the headlines. And sit down with the stars themselves. No filter. No boring takes. Just the tea. New episodes every week. If it's trending. We're talking about it. This is Roxanne. And Chantel. Let's get into it. Hi, we're Meg Bashmaner. And Joseph Fink. Of Welcome to Night Vale. 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