We Rated Your Most Unpopular Opinions | Trash Taste #278

Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Trash Taste podcast. I'm your host, Joey for today, and I'm with the boys, Connor and Garnas usual. Why are you looking at me like that? I don't know. Look at me. Bro gave me a bombastic side eye for no reason. I just want to look at your beautiful face, Joey. Oh, well, I appreciate that. Thank you. No, not at all. I'm looking at some of these things that we're about to have to read out. And I was like, I'd much rather look at Joey's face. You know? Yeah, so as you guys can see from the title of this episode today, we're going to go through another subreddit. This time we're going to go through our slash unpopular opinion, which I'm sure is pretty self-explanatory. I think it's kind of refreshing that the audience don't have to hear our unpopular opinions for once. Well, I'm sure we'll make sure. I'm sure we're going to have unpopular opinions towards these unpopular opinions. I don't know. Because unpopular opinions is always like a weird balance because it's just like, a lot of the times you hear an unpopular opinion and you're like, that's not unpopular at all. Maybe it's unpopular around your vicinity. But yeah, so our staff has gathered, I think, 30 unpopular opinions for us to go through. And yeah, we're going to discuss them, see if they're unpopular, see if we agree, see if we disagree. Yeah, pretty much. Self-explanatory. What are we kicking off with? Okay, we're kicking off with, night showers are the only showers that actually matter. That's just a dumb opinion. That's so fucking dumb. That's so fucking dumb. This one's a certified unpopular opinion. Oh, certified unpopular opinion. Badges for actual certified unpopular opinions. So they said, if you only share in the morning, you're literally going to bed every night covered in the filth of the day before. Dirt from your commute, sweat from the gym, germs from touching everything in public spaces. All of that is now on your sheets and pillow. Congrats, you're marinating in it all night. We've talked about this, I think, multiple times. Because I am definitely a night shower person. Generally a morning person. I will do a morning and a night if it's a really gross day. Like a sweaty day. If I sweat a lot during the night, then sometimes I'll take a morning shower, but that doesn't mean I'm going to skip the night shower. But what are you doing that you're like, are you covered in shit? Like what is going on? Like, yeah, if I'm covered in shit, don't go in the bed. Don't wash, but like, we wear clothes. Yeah, but I don't know, it just... Like having sweat on your body is not like, yes, it can have bacteria, but not in like one fucking day. And how much are you sweating? Yeah, but it just like feels gross sometimes. But it's a mental thing. That's a mental thing. I'm popular opinion. Is showering really about getting clean? No, it's a mental thing. It's totally a mental thing. Wait, what? Ask anime fans. Wait, what? Look, anime fans, they're like far off in the sense. I take like a bath normally every day. Not because I feel like I need to clean. Just cause I want to, I just want to be in water in the morning. For me, I need a shower in the morning. What are you fucking amphibian? To feel like I'm awake, you know? Yeah, there's a lot of ring. There's a lot of things. Right. I don't feel like I fully am ready to start the day unless I have a shower in the morning. Okay, question then. What temperature do you set your shower to usually? This is a different debate. Yeah. No, no, it's not because I think, no, because I think the reason why I take night showers is because I set my shower to like the hottest fucking temperature because that keeps, because not only does that in my mental state, that's a woman thing. Oh dude, women have something going on. If that's the thing, I heard that's a woman. Where are you getting this fact from? I saw a meme where it was like me after taking a shower after my wife and his like skin was like red. Oh really? Yeah, is this true? Our household is the opposite. Arki takes the cold showers and I take the warm shower. So clearly she wears the pants in the relationship. I have no idea. Oh, okay. How quickly does Arki take in the shower? Well, she was like trained from like her military training. So her shower's like two minutes long. Sydney is like also fucking two minutes long. Like she takes a 10th of the time I take. Same. I'm like, how? I love taking showers. Same, yeah. It's like every second you spend after like the first two minutes is diminishing return. Which I mean, it doesn't get you any cleaner. Yeah, I know that. I've just established that. No, I know, I know. I'm just like... I've established that. To be like wasting water. Wasting water. Yeah, actually, I do. Let me waste my water and... Look, I'm fucking paying for it. So let me waste it. Let me waste my water so I can have my daily existential crisis. So I'm ready to take on the day. Yeah, so for me, I personally take really, really hot showers even in the summer because it keeps my... When I get out of the shower, my body is like warm and refreshed and therefore it's ready to like snuggle up into a mattress or not a mattress, but a blanket. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hot, hot, hot. Go back, go back. Did you just say you like to take really hot showers in the summer? Yeah. That's weird. What? But I also drink hot coffee in the summer as well. No, no, no, no, no. Hot coffee is not the same as hot shower in the summer. Are you taking hot showers this summer, Joey? Yeah. What the fuck is wrong with you? Okay, hold up. I can't, I personally... Room temp showers? Yeah, yeah, same here. What's room temp for you? Like 20 degrees? I don't know, you, because you have the, you have it dialed. I don't think that's... Yeah, mine's always set to 41. Mine's always set to like the... 41? Yeah. Fucking hell. Even in this summer? Yeah. The whole point of like summer showers is to, for me at least, like call yourself down because the summer is fucking boiling and you want to die. Why would I be dying in the summer to be like, you know what? I want to go from a sauna to a sauna. Yeah, but you're not fucking stepping outside immediately after the shower. You're usually in an air conditioned room. That's a lot cooler. I think we're losing sight of the... No, no, this is more important. I don't care about this unpopular opinion. I, we just have an unpopular opinion here that I need to address here because as a Southeast Asian, this is actually like against my culture. Personally speaking, well, as a non-Southeast Asian, I can say that personally speaking, I can't stand like cold showers. Like I know there's all these like health benefits and whatever, it doesn't mean I want to fucking do it. It doesn't need to be like a cold shower. It can just be a cool shower. I don't like cool showers either. What's wrong with cool showers? Do you not like cooling off? Like how do you feel when you walk outside in this Japanese summer, you're fucking sweating, you're like just overheating. You're like on this, on the verge of fucking heat stroke. And you're like, I'm going to cool down by taking a 41 degrees shower. Yeah, because I don't go in the shower to cool myself off. I go in the shower to clean my fucking body. Oh my God. That's crazy. What do you mean? It's crazy. You are using like 10% of like the usage of showers, which is like also cleaning your body, but it's so much more than that, Joey. You can like, because I love taking hot showers in the winter as well to warm myself up because I'm feeling too cold. Conversely, it's just if I'm feeling way too fucking hot, I'm sweaty. I like to take a nice, not a cold shower, but a nice cool shower just to like cool down my internal body temperature. Okay, sure. So it's just more comfortable. I'll just wash my face with cold water if I want to cool off. Nah, that's not strong enough, man. That is not strong enough. There's no way that is strong enough. I literally don't need anything else. This is one minor topic that I actually just don't have any strong feelings about. I just don't really. That's actually refreshing. Yeah, I'd actually like to change my face. The ones I don't really care. Yeah, honestly. But like this one, like going back to the night showers and this guy, like this are the only ones that actually matter. Not to break down this guy's like entire existence, but like what does he mean by only matter? Is his entire goal being clean for bed? Cause my goal is to be clean for the day. Right. So I don't think of it as clean for bed. I think that's the thing. It's like this person clearly just wants to be clean for bed. Right, right. Because no matter what you do, even if you're, you know, during the day, even if you don't step a fucking foot outside, you're still, you know, sweating just naturally. You're still getting dirty. You got a lot of bodily oil that builds up in your sleep. Yeah, exactly. But clearly he wants to feel mentally clean to go to bed. And it's like for me, I don't really care. Cause if I feel a little greasy or a little sweaty, I'm like, all right, whatever. But the bed I'm showering in the morning anyway. Yeah. I don't really care. But does it feel gross? It does a little bit, but I also recognize that that is like a mental thing. Right. Cause I never used to feel like it was a little grudge only until recently. I never feel gross unless like every time. It's a mental diff. Every time I have to shower, every time I exercise like gym, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, I mean, you have to. Yeah, exactly. That's a part where, okay, there is a bunch of sweat on your body. Yes. With this one though, part of the reason I like day showers is because no matter what I sleep at night, I could be clean as a whistle and then I wake up and then there is still some kind of like bodily odor for me. Yeah. And I don't want people to smell my bodily odor. So morning showers is my way to get rid of my odor. So at least at the start of the day, I come to a trash taste recording and you guys can't smell my fucking Smelly armpits or whatever, you know? I mean, this is dumb. Yeah. This is dumb because he also has argued it badly. Yeah. The argument is bad. Even though I somewhat agree with the argument, the reasoning is just kind of crap. Yeah. Hot showers in the summer is crazy though. I'm just, that's, that's, that's, yeah. That is crazy. I just, I've tried doing the whole like whole shower thing and I'm just like, this, this sucks. This, this is taking the enjoyment out of sharing for me. I like sharing because I get to be in this warm, you know, moist environment where I'm like, oh yes, I can finally like feel- You wanna go back to your like mother's womb or something Joey? You wanna- You know what, maybe I do. Maybe, you know what, fuck this world, you know? You're like, it was, yes, a nice, a nice warm, hot environment. Maybe I wanna end it all without ending it all. Yeah. Shall we go to the next one? All right. What's the next one? Concerts should include a digital recording of the performance with a purchase of a ticket and banned phone recordings. No. What? Okay. It sucks having all these people watching the show through their phones that they have to hold up, hold up into someone else's view. It's even worse when they're recording the TV showing the pro performance. Make the show more enjoyable by banning phone recordings. I mean, Japan already does that. Yeah. This person in Japanese? Yeah. Clearly this person has never been a concert in Japan or just Asia in general. A recorded show is cool, but people still pay to see the live show. It won't hurt tickets sales. I mean, I don't know about you guys, but personally speaking, I never record, even if I'm allowed to, I almost never record concerts because the recording is never as good as when you're actually there. Generally, I kind of agree. Low key, low key. If they implemented this, I would not be against it. Which part are you agreeing with? All of it? Because there's like two things. There's a two-parter here. There's two-parter. I agree with the banning the phone recordings. Yeah, I think everyone agrees with banning phones. But the whole like, including a digital recording of the performance with a purchase of a ticket, I mean, they kind of already do that sometimes. It's called live show. Yeah, but it's not always though. It's not always. Like, you know, who do you think is fucking paying for those cameras and the recording and editors? Yeah. That's not fucking cheap to do that. Exactly. That's not gonna happen. Concerts already don't make a lot of money. Like, you can't just get like your mate Dave to fucking record it from the sideline and expect it to do it. I honestly think that the digital recording part of it is the hotter part of this tape. Because there is no way that every concert can be recorded to a professional quality. We should get the whiteboards out. I agree or disagree. I agree. And the next one. Yeah, the next one. Whiteboards like down there. Yeah. Oh, I see them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I 100% disagree with this take. Yeah. I don't want to go to concerts a lot. It like, okay, because if you think about it like this, right? Like, you know, if they, if, if hypothetically, they included a digital recording of the performance with every purchase of a ticket, then A, the quality again is not gonna be up to the standard of like say a live, like a professional recorder live show. But B, it'll probably push up the price of the tickets, which is already a problem recently with tickets being way too fucking expensive sometimes. Yeah. Like, let's be real. And it also completely takes away the whole point of going to see a live show. The reason people record live shows on their phones is just to basically be, have something to share it around and brag about it. Yeah. Because I have, I guess, recorded some live shows. Yeah, same. Some moments of live shows. I mean, like, I've seen your stories. You post. Yeah. Like maybe like five seconds max. You've been part of the problem. Just, yeah. Well, I don't have my phone up the entire time though, which I've seen a lot of people do. Like the last concert I went to, which was the Deaf Heaven concert I went to, which I think I recorded maybe five, 10 seconds of just to put on my Instagram stories. I saw some people straight up just having their phone like this the entire time. And I'm like, you're not gonna watch back on it. You're just not. What's the point? Yeah, when I went to Tattler and Mashtow, you weren't even allowed to put out your phone at all. Yeah, exactly. Which I think is best. I need to post it on my story. Outside the venue or, you know, they let you do that. Yeah, all like after the show, before the show. I feel like instead of this, since the main reason for us pulling out our phones is to post about it and brag about it and say, hey, I was here. Just either let them record like the pre-show or something or have a section like, you know, not to gas ourselves up like the fucking trash taste podcast show where we just had a segment and we'd be like, all right, put out your phones. All right, now it's done though. Yeah, yeah. Especially like, especially, especially with live music shows. Yes. Because obviously I think there were some cool moments in our stage shows where like, okay, this would have been cool to film it. But like, especially in music performances, that is never going to be as good. No. A moment as hearing the music being played live, which is the exact fucking reason you were at a live show. Because otherwise, why not just listen to the audio recording a bit. Go home and listen to like, watch the music video in that case. It's better than any, yeah, especially like, yeah, as you said, live recordings with like, you know, a lot of bands having like, you know, very specialized speakers that, you know, you know, have a big amount of bass, for example. Those recordings always sound like absolute garbage on phones. Yeah. Or even like, even if you had like a proper DSLR, it'll probably still sound like shit. I think 95% of people who watch or record these concerts on their phone, never look at it ever again. No. But they just do it for whatever reason. There's some kind of urge to do it. I think, including digital recording in general, I think obviously if the artist wants to do that, great. They'll do it on their own accord though. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's arguments for like, accessibility and people who can't see the concert can see it. But I do think that it's fair to be like, you know, like it's art at the end of the day and a lot of art is predicated on, you know, you being there in the moment. Yes. I think it's understandable not to have that expectation. Yeah. And I think the whole point of a concert, like we've already said, is being there. Yeah. And so, yeah, it's dumb. Yeah, this is dumb. This is a dumb ass opinion. You just don't enjoy concerts. It's almost, I almost hold the same opinion for like, stage shows, where theater shows, where, you know, even with some professional recordings and you're watching professional recordings, you're just like, it's just, you know, it's not like watching a movie, you know, it's... Watching a stage play through a camera just feels empty. It's just the loneliness to it. Yeah. The frame adds constrictions that aren't fun. Yeah, exactly. And you don't get the same energy and the projection of that voice. Yeah, the atmosphere is completely gone. Exactly. And I was like, I've tried watching stage shows like Hamilton through like recordings and I'm just like, nah, I gotta be there. Yeah, of course. It's the whole point of a live performance. Yeah, yeah. And it's, you know, you, especially with stage performance and plays and stuff like that, you as a live viewer or audience member, you are like a crucial participant to the energy and to what the cast has worked on. Definitely. You know, seeing that engagement is really big. Yeah. So yeah, dumb opinion. This is dumb. Get it out of you. All right, next. This is like, I don't know. This is fucking baby Google guy, guy opinion. Yeah, you just... What's the unpopular part of that opinion? Is it the digital recording? Probably, I imagine. Is it the bad phone recording? I think it's the digital recording thing. Yeah. Okay. I think banning the phones thing is we all agree on. I actually don't know about that. I don't even know anymore. I don't know about that actually. I don't know anymore, to be honest. All right, next. All right. School isn't the problem. Most students are just lazy. You're right. That's blaming the fucking kids. I don't have a marker. Oh, is it right here? These are markers? Yeah. Everyone loves to blame the education system for their failures, but the truth is most students just don't put in the effort. I went to a public school, nothing fancy, and the kids who studied and actually paid attention did fine. The ones who partied, skipped classes, and made excuses are the ones now crying about how school failed them. Maybe it's not the system. Maybe it's you. Holy shit. That's a bold statement. So are we saying agree or disagree? Okay. Okay. All right. Ready? Three, two, one. Disagree. Yeah, it's kind of hard to agree with this. I mean, other than just being factually wrong. I mean, it is a known thing and a proven thing that your postcode kind of determines a lot about your life. It isn't saying it's one for one, but it's saying that if you take 100 people from one area and 100 people from another area, you can pretty much correlate which one is the most likely to be the most likely you can pretty much correlate which ones are not currently you can pretty much figure out which ones have more chances, more opportunities. That's not saying, you know, we don't love an underdog story and someone can't from an underprivileged area. But it's just true. I mean, you know, where you were born and by by an extent the school you get to go to is a massive factor in your life. And a lot of schools are horrifically underfunded. And so it's hard to see the, this is probably someone who feels like they've probably achieved a lot on their own or have put in more effort than most around them, which is, you know, sure. But that doesn't mean that everyone else is lazy. Most people need a lot of, you know, they need a lot of structure. They need a lot of help to do things. I'm sure students are lazy, but even then it's not really up to the students all of the time. You could then go to parenting. I feel like there's so much other aspects to this. I was gonna say my actual like, I'll take is the school is not the problem. The parents are the problem. Most of the time, in my experience. This is like, I don't know. This feels like you have, you've honed in on the result and then completely ignored every other possible reason why this could be the case. You might think students are lazy. Yeah, it's too multifaceted to just point it to the laziness of a student because I think the opposite can be true as well. At least in my case, for example, and I'm sure, you know, everybody hopefully had at least one example of this where like, you maybe excelled or personally was very invested in a particular subject because your teacher was just so engaging and fascinating and just like was really a part of your learning experience. Like I personally would never have gotten into like physics, for example, or music. If it wasn't for the fact that my physics teacher and music teacher were like the fucking best. This is so important. They're so important. And you know, and of course, you know, you can say that like, oh, you know, a bad school can still have good, you know, teachers or whatever. But yeah, I think just chalking it up to the fact that, oh yeah, you know, even if a teacher is good, if the student is lazy, then they're not gonna learn. And it's like, well, yeah, maybe, but not all the time. That's too broad of a topic to talk about. Yeah, and then like teachers are like horrifically undervalued. Absolutely. Underpaid and have to work brutal hours and often have to pay some of their own money to buy things for class and stuff like that. It's a pretty brutal thing. And I feel like just blaming students here is not helpful. When the teacher and the student generally wanna learn and it's not happening, I feel like there are bigger problems than what's going on in the classroom. Yeah, definitely. Like there is obviously reasons why things are not happening. On top of that, obviously technology is changing so fast. And like there's a lot of things that it may just make it impossible. I feel like this is such a dumb and narrow-minded opinion. All right, question. How much did you care about your grades in school? A lot. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, a lot. So how much attention did your parents give when on like report cards and stuff like that? Didn't care. Didn't care? My parents didn't really push me to get grades. It was me. I wanted, cause I was just competitive. I just wanted to be better than the people around me. He went to school and it was like ranked match begin. Yeah, I mean, but then like, then you learn like the genetic diff and then you're like, holy shit, my friend is just so much smarter than me. And like, no matter how much I try, I will never be smarter than him in certain subjects. But at least maybe I can be in the top percentile and I can do a good crack at this. But I think that's a, I think, I mean, that's also just a good life lesson to learn in school. There's always going to be an Asian kid that's better than you. Absolutely. Got to learn this lesson early on. This is an important thing to learn. Yeah. My parents told me something very important when I was growing up, which is, I mean, it sounds like, you know, Disney-esque fucking advice, but I think it's like advice every kid needs to hear. And I definitely like internalized it. They told me that we don't care what grade you get as long as you know that you did everything you could and you tried your hardest. I remember telling them telling me that early on and because I was, for the most part, a straight A student and a lot of that was less my parents being strict and more my parents being just really supportive. I mean, my mom would, when I was a kid, she would basically sit with me to do, like help me do like my math homework and stuff. And I think from that process, I just kind of like internalized, okay, I have to like try harder these subjects. And I remember the one fucking time, the one fucking time I got a B on a math exam. And I think it was one of the only times I'd ever gotten, you know, in the early stage of my life, I got a B, which of course, living up to stereotype, getting a B in your math exam, you know, big no-no stereotype is like, all right, let's get up the bell. All right, you're a big disappointment. Not a rise for a week. Yeah, but the reality of my family household is like, I remember telling my mom and dad, yeah, okay, I got a B. I remember my mom's voice being like, did you try as hard as you could? And I fucking broke down because I was like, I didn't, you were right. I'm disappointed in myself. No, but honestly, that's so true. It's that whole idea of like, you don't have to be the best at something, just be the best version of you. Like, you know, just be the best that you can possibly be. And I think if your parents or your guardian or even your teachers can instill that on you, while you're in school, then it just becomes this like self-generating engine for the students to be like, okay, well, you know, it's this whole idea of like, just do your absolute best and try to, you know, get to that point where you don't have to necessarily make your parents proud, just make yourself proud at the end of the day. Just be like, yeah, you know what? I got the B in the math test, but that's, you know, this was my absolute best of my ability. And you know, obviously I'm not gonna always be a straight A student. Yeah, but you know, yeah. Did you ever pop off like insanely on like one exam? And you were like, damn, I didn't know I had that in me. That was every exam. Every exam. Every exam. No, that can't be every exam. What are you talking about? That must have been one exam where you were like, holy shit, like 99? Now I was one of those students that fucking popped off in class, but absolutely fumbled the ball in a test. Damn. Yeah, like I would just be like, I would answer every single question correct in class. But then the moment I'm put in that test environment, that very like tense test environment, all the knowledge that I thought I had in my head just goes, just goes away. And I'm like, fuck, I should have known this. Why did I not know this? I know I'm a failed adult. Cause I'm still living off the high of like one exam that I did absolutely nutty in. That was one exam that we see. Cause obviously I don't know how it works in Australia, but in the UK, sixth form, again, this all could be changed. I don't know what the fuck the system is now. They changed it all the time. Yeah. But you do like three math exams a year. Is this the same thing? Yeah, yeah. Okay. And so you do three and then three. You did like six math exam total and they'd wait your overall. I'd normally get like 80, which was an A or I think 90 was a star. Was it? Yeah. I'd normally get like eighties. And I was like, all right. And then one exam I got a perfect hundred. And I was like, oh, fucking. Let's go. Don't know how I did that. Yeah. What a disaster. Yeah. I very rarely got like a hundred percent or even like that's not only a hundred percent ever. Yeah. The only a hundred percent I ever got, which I'm glad I got it then was my final high school exam for my music thesis. And I got a hundred and I was the only, I think I was like one of like maybe three or four kids in the state that got a hundred in that exam. And I was, I was on cloud nine after that. I was like, oh man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go into the whole music thing after school. And then I ended up here. You got ace in everything. Was there one subject that you didn't do good in? Yeah. What was, what was, what was your guys is like worst performing consistently? Worst performing. English, English, English. Same. Funny what I'm doing now, huh? Same. Yeah. And nonfiction writing. Oh, was that different subjects? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Specifically there was like literature, my guess, and just English, which is mostly to do with, a lot of the shit I do now, I guess. Yeah. I absolutely sucked ass at writing essays. Which is- I was like near a little illiterate. I was so bad at writing and just reading. Actually, the only thing I excelled in in English was creative writing, but like the whole thing of like analysis or like essays or anything like that, I just, I don't know. Maybe, maybe my English teacher hated me, but just every time I was like, yeah, I think this is a good essay that I wrote. I'd come back with like 70% of like, okay. So this is funny how it works, isn't it? It's funny. Cause like I don't use any math, which is the one that I, science and math is one that I excelled at. Same. And now I have to write fucking scripts and give notes and stuff. And it just goes to show like, yeah, don't, I mean English, I was like, what a stupid thing. I speak English, I don't need to fucking study it. Yeah. What a fucking fool I was. Yeah. Same here. And I make fun of Ludwig for having an English major in his university, which, you know, probably more useful than my engineering, to be honest. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think engineering is pretty useful. I mean, it's the biggest flex degree, that's for sure. Whenever people ask me, they're like, oh, engineering. Oh, you're an engineer. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I couldn't build anything though. But if I did, I couldn't. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have that when I say like, yeah, I have website design degree. The thing is, I don't even think I was smart. No, I don't think. I don't know. When you get humbled when you go to university, I think, because you see people around you who... Are actually smart? Well, yeah, or just more motivated in that too. Not only were they smarter, more motivated to learn than I was, at least in that subject. It's so weird because like, I never really viewed myself as smart. I viewed myself as someone who knew how to do well in exams. Because even in university, a lot of people would tell me that, you know, I was going to get humbled. And I, you know, in a sense, I did because I met a lot of people that I could genuinely tell looking back, this person was fucking smart. And it wasn't about doing well in the exam. They genuinely had an interest in the topic. And they, if I was an employer, that's the person I would be hiring, right? They were engaged in the topic. Cause they know their shit. And I thought something was very wrong when I found myself performing better than them on exams and stuff. I was like, I know for a fact this person is smarter than me. But for some reason I'm still performing better in exams. And it's just because, you know, throughout my entire school life, because I was, I guess, a straight A student, I generally just figured out how to do well and how to study for exams rather than just how to be a smarter and more well-rounded person in general. And I think that was like, I guess a possible issue with the school system. But like... It's so hard. It is hard because I've also met a lot of people as well who, it breaks my heart when I like meet someone or meet anyone who thinks they're dumb. And it's kind of like they've grown into adulthood and they have kind of like internalized this. And the more you talk to them, the more you realize it was a lot of the feedback that they got from like school. And it was just like, if you are told, hey, you're fucking dumb or you're stupid, it's so easy to like internalize that. And just as a kid and just think, okay, I shouldn't be trying because I'm dumb. And I've been told I'm dumb. And it's nothing I can do to reverse that. Yeah, and that fucking breaks my heart every time I hear it because I'm like, no, these people, like everyone I've met, there is no one as dumb as they think they are. There is just people who has just lost belief in themselves to be able to fucking do things or have the ability to do something. I also feel like kind of, at least maybe in this day and age, this is a bit of a tangent, but like I feel in this day and age, there's this like weird like societal thing where like people are almost like embracing the fact that they are dumb and it's kind of like, I don't know when this whole started, but this whole idea of like, oh, intelligence, being intelligent in something is like uncool. Well, I think this is just like a general push for like anti-intellectualism. Yeah, like where, like why and where did that come from? Well, we can get into it, but it's mostly politics. Yeah, okay. That's a different thing. Yeah, yeah, I know it's a bit of a tangent, but. Mostly politics. Yeah. Whatever the reason is, I fucking despise it. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, anyway, that was a bit of a tangent. Yes. Yeah, but you probably don't want to get into that. Yeah, let's not get into that. Let's get back on top again, go to the next on Vulture opinion. All right, well, so that was a crap one. Well, I think we can all agree. Yeah, yeah. I'm not even gonna get, I should just leave disagree permanently on until I. And then just erase the diss. Yeah. All right, next. We should call countries by what they call themselves. Does it really make sense that we would call Germany, Germany and not Deutschland or how on earth we do we get China for Zomgo? There's so many examples. Finland, the Swammy, Egypt, Misa, Hungary, Japan, Korea, et cetera. Why don't we just call other countries by what they call themselves? Okay. I mean, yeah, I'm not changing. Okay, go on. Okay. Okay. Okay. Ready? Three, two, one. Disagree. Are you agree? Oh no. Probably a missing form. I know you want to. I don't have a strong opinion. Thank you for playing Devils Advocate. Yeah. Let's hear your opening argument. Present your opening argument for the certified and popular opinion. Why not in it? Why not? Do you want me to help you with the argument? I'll give you an example then. Can you pronounce how Hungarians call Hungary? Fuck no. Where is that? Right there next to Egypt. How do you think you pronounce that? I mean, we can try. Go for it. I'm going to let you know no matter what you say it's going to be wrong. Mug, you're off slug? Sounds pretty good to me. Welcome to Hungary. Any Hungarians in the comments? Please let us know how we did. Yeah. I mean, the obvious thing is that we don't have a universal language. Yes. So why would we not have an anglicized version of names? It's the same, you know, I mean, yeah. I think, yeah, some names are not very good. Yes. Like we pretty didn't come up with a good name at the time. But like, you know, and Japan has a pretty good job at trying to, you know, like, instead of us just calling it like Holland, which is often wrong, obviously Netherlands, but you know, they call it Oranda, which is Oranda as well. Yeah. Like, I think... Okay. Then how about this? Why is the names not... If they're hard names, let's say, why is it not something that's a little bit more phonetically close to the local name? I mean, that's colonialism. Huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much. You know, I'm just saying, you know. Yeah. I mean, this is just a holdover of previous things, but then, you know, is there a need to change it? Like if everyone knows it as China, why change it? Yeah. Everyone knows it as China. Like it's not like a derogatory term. It's not like we've decided like... Yeah, like... If it was a term... You just called it Nippon Japan. Yeah, like... How dare you? If it was meant to like... Anything could be a derogatory term if you try hard enough. That's true. I mean, in the tone you say... Just think China with a hard... This is just like a dumb thing to care about. China! And it's just so... I, you know... Say it with enough emphasis, anything could be a derogatory term. I think like... I don't know, this is a dumb thing to care about. Cause like if you... Like let's say you're in Japan, you want to talk to a Japanese person about it. You would be talking in Japanese. Yeah. So what the fuck would they care about you call it in English? They know it is Japan in English. They don't give a fuck. Exactly. Also, I don't know about you, but if I came up to someone and I asked them like, oh, you know, you have an accent, which country you're from. And they were like, oh, I'm from Deutschland. Then that would make sense, right? For that person coming from that country. But if I don't know my fucking Australian... Are you from Deutschland? Yeah. If my Australian friend came up to me and was like, yes, so the other day I went to fucking Deutschland. And I was just like, what the fuck? Just call it Germany. That's what they're like when I turn down. But that's a cultural thing, Joey. Imagine if you weren't born like that. Right. You know, you had a different name for these countries. You wouldn't even register it. But you don't care about, you know, the UK being Yirisu. It doesn't fucking sound anything like. No. Like England or whatever the fuck. You're a great Britain. Yeah. You know, we don't give a fuck. When I change the language, I'll swap to what they call it. Yes. But it's not that fucking deep. Yeah, it's really not that hard. Sounds like Bro's just getting gapped, bro. He just needs to learn more languages. Sounds like Bro only knows English. I mean, other languages call countries other things other than their native name as well. Yeah. You know, how do you feel about people who this isn't this going on a small time? How do you feel about people who actually have a more Westernized name when they migrate over to a Western country? Oh, what do you mean? Like, let's say, you know, it's very popular in Thailand, for example, just to for everyone to have like a nickname that. Oh, I see. You mean like, say, for example, like Chinese people having a Chinese name and they're more like Westernized. Yeah. I think that's their choice. You know, if they want to change their names to something that's a little bit easy, say, for example, like, you know, a lot of Chinese people have the Chinese name. But then when they move over to say an English speaking country or any country that's not predominantly Chinese, they'll might think to themselves, well, you know, this my Chinese name might be a little bit difficult to pronounce. So I'll I don't know. I don't even know how to come up with it. It's a choice. No one's forcing you to do it. If you want to make your life easier. I think they're making their lives easier by being like, I'll give you my my Westernized name so that it's easier for the both of us. Okay. It's like why I use fucking I use a Japanese name. Yeah. A new breed. Like I'm just making it easier. I don't think about it. So that's not that deep. Yeah. I want to be easier for them to think like read and pronounce. Yeah. It's not like I'm denouncing my culture by giving them an easier option. Like it's it's not that deep. It's a very rigid view on a very fluid topic that requires, you know, yeah, requires, I think a lot of common sense. Yeah. Just also if you are one of those people that, you know, speak English and then go up to people and, you know, call Finland swami, like I feel like you're not going to have many friends by the end of the conversation. People are just going to be up. People are just going to be annoyed being like, what the fuck is swami? Oh, you mean Finland? Just fucking call it Finland. It's not that hard. Yeah. I probably disagree wrong. I didn't forgot to put the other. Disagree. Disagree. I disagree. Disagree. I'm really minding my other person. All right. Let's go to the next one. All right. Next. That was a very boring one. Yeah. That was boring. And I'm not even fun. Just, just lazy. You can't be the better in popular opinion. But hey, I mean, you got a lot of likes. So yeah. All right. Domino's is better than independently owned pizza shops. I think Domino's makes a perfect pizza. And I say this is someone from the Northeast, I assume US. The pizza isn't dripping with grease. The topics don't fall off when you're trying to eat it. And the garlic crust is amazing. It may be fake pizza, but it's my go to. I mean, this just sounds like you have a lack of options around you. That's all it sounds like. It just sounds like you live in a crap neighborhood for pizza. Yeah. Like, of course, yeah. If I just read this is just such a stupid argument. Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? I wouldn't even argue that Domino's is better than not independently owned pizza companies, but that's that's that's a different. Yeah. I think it's this is just this is so dumb. Because you can because, OK, let's say hypothetically, if it wasn't a Domino's, it was a fucking Pizza Hut. Then you then would you say the same thing or like any chain restaurant for that matter? No, because it's all a fucking preference. It's like saying doctors are a scam because the only doctor that you just fucking mutilates you every time you go. I'd be like, yeah, I think doctors are a scam too. If it was the only doctor I could go to. That's true. To play devil's advocate, though, sometimes sometimes you just don't want an independently owned pizza shop. No, no. And likewise, I sometimes order Domino's or Pizza Hut because there's a there's a familiar taste or consistency. Yes. And I absolutely has it's play. I mean, there's a reason why these companies are around. People want these pizzas, you know, but to argue, it's better than I mean, come on. That and yeah, that's that's just purely your prerogative. And it just sounds like you need to, I don't know, maybe this is a good business opportunity to actually open an independent pizza place and, you know, maybe prove these other independently owned pizza places wrong. Yeah, we've had enough pizza opinions on this Trash Taste podcast. Yeah. Yeah. So let's let's move on to the next opinion. This is crap. Disagree. Hard disagree. I think disagree. Yeah. I mean, they are all certified unpopular opinions so far. Yeah. Yeah. This this subreddit isn't lying. That's for sure. All right. Are they all one sided? Naby? One side is it? All these unpopular opinions. Okay. Okay. Got it. All right. Next one. TV shows are too good nowadays. I'm starting to think prestige TV is a curse. Every new show is gorgeous cinematography, acting so good, I should win Oscars writing. That's basically literature, a budget that could fund a small nation's GDP CG that makes real life look low resolution. And then they vanish for three years by the time season two shows up. I've forgotten who half the characters are. The actors have aged so much. It looks like a historical drama about making season one society is moved on memes are dead fandoms have dissolved and the only people talking about the show are me and one guy on Tumblr named Wolf dad underscore 94. I missed. Okay. I missed the days when TV was a little worse back then you could crank out 22 episodes a year. The pot was 60 to 80% filler and nobody cared if the lighting was realistic because you didn't have to wait until your kids were in high school to watch the next season. Bring back slightly crappy TV. I want my stories on time, not perfect. All right. True. That's an interesting take. Um, it is an interesting take. I'll give it that. Yeah. Hmm. Um, all right. Okay. Okay. All right. Ready? Three, two, one. I put a degree. I put disagree, but not because of the points that they were making. This guy is spitting. I think he's on to something. Go on. I think he's on. I mean, look, now he's, he said everything I think needs to be said. I fucking hate having to watch these shows and I fucking forget everything. You're part of the problem. I'm not part of the problem. Part of the problem. The part of the problem is that they take too goddamn long to make a TV show. Part of the problem. I don't have a strong opinion on this because I don't watch TV shows. So this is between you two. I really know. I don't care about. You watch anime Joey. That's also television. Yeah. And you know what? I still disagree. I want quality in my anime. Not garbage. Even like the highest quality anime, they pop out like five seasons before seven, season two comes out. I feel, I feel anime is on a, on a completely different topic to this. I feel like this is more so Westernized live. Action TV shows, which again, I don't watch a lot of. So I don't have a strong opinion on it. Why do you disagree? Actually, I realized my argument was wrong. I agree. But not for the reasons that he, that they pointed out. Okay. So I agree not because, not because I have to wait two, three years for quality. I'm always willing to wait. But the middle gap of like mid quality TV shows, it just feels like that is existing less and less. So what actually is, I see happening is we get only very few good TV shows that people talk about and so much fucking slop. Yeah. It is so, so much of just, hey, reality TV show. Hey, really long, unnecessary long Netflix documentary. You know, it's that that middle gap has just been filled with much, much worse quality TV that yes, we, I am fine waiting for the high quality TV shows, but the mid, the mid quality TV shows, I just feel is a space that is just existing less and less. So what ends up happening is that most of the stuff we are not watching is like 10% great TV, 90% fucking bullshit. We watched to where just fill the time up. And that's basically it. That's fair. It takes two damn long. Takes two damn long. I feel like even movies don't take this long. No, I don't know about that, man. I mean, Dune, what is it like two years between each one? Yeah. I feel like that's a reasonable amount. Yeah. But that was like, was that approved? Like the script? I think part two was already greenlit by the time they started filming. Yeah. So this is the, I mean, like the budgets are bonkers on these things. Like they can't approve the second season until, you know, they've, it's at least been going well. And I felt like used to get such dog shit TV shows back in the day that would run for like two, like two seasons. And then you're like, what the fuck? It's got two. No, it's got an eight now. And you're like, what the fuck is watching this? Like, I just feel like this, this hesitancy and such over investment into single seasons is like hurting TV overall and making it worse. At least I think so. Like I, I don't know. It's just weird. And there are some shows that sometimes, you know, they, they, they find their footing in the third or fourth season and they start to become something really special. I'm sure there are a lot of TV shows where you can think mid 2000s, you'd be like, yeah, the first season's kind of shit. Just watch it. Cause season two is banger. And this I feel like it's the opposite. There's a lot of TV shows with the first season is like them trying to find the, you think those seasons ones are better than from your days. Most of the, like, I mean, this is kind of a bad example, but like peep show, first season peep shows pretty bad. Really? I should go back and watch it. It's pretty bad. I've watched it quite a lot of times. Me too. I've watched it just recently for the first time. I feel like the more prevailing pattern back then was like the first two seasons were great, but then it falls off and then goes to like my seasons as well. I mean, like lost prison break, first prison break heroes, 24, Dexter. Um, I like, I've seen a single episode of it. Yeah. I'm not saying it's, it's, I'm not saying it's like universal. Like it used to always be that way. We get there is there are shows that do get better after the first season. Right. And I feel like having to over invest in the first season, being an absolute smash hit is just bad. I don't know. I feel like it's, it's too, like the idea of TV was that it's the silver screen. It's, it's, it's the secondary thing to movies. It's not as like, it's not the, the, you're just saying it shouldn't be at the same quality as like a big screen. The budget shouldn't be the same. Right. Like if it like that's the whole point, sometimes it's even higher than some moves. Yeah. I mean, some of these TV shows budgets are absolutely ludicrous. It's like we need to scale this. Look, I'm glad. Stranger things, I think I'd like to stranger things is a show that has been absolutely killed by the fact that it's taken too long. Yes. Between the seasons. I agree. Those child actors don't, they're not kids anymore. Yeah. It doesn't work. At the end of it all, the season one was definitely the best. Yeah. I think I watched season three or four, whichever one I last watched. And I just, I just didn't care anymore. I was like, it's I've, I've fucking, I've got gray hairs now. This is ridiculous. Yeah. Um, so I agree with this guy. Surprisingly. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. All right. What's that one TV show to have like all the heroes? Heroes. It was, it was, it was, it was called heroes. Well, yeah. I mean, there are a lot more examples of the show getting worse. It goes on and getting better, but they're all examples of shows that work it. Fair enough. Breaking Bad was pretty season two. Was it? Season one's really good at Breaking Bad, actually. Yeah. I watched it recently. Season one of Breaking Bad is really good and then just gets better. That's Breaking Bad is an enigma. Yeah. You know, that's. Just banger. Yeah. Just banger. Yeah. I think every show strives to be like Breaking Bad. Yeah. I think breaking, I think it's Breaking Bad actually that you can blame for this modern TV. Probably. Yeah. I'm surprised. Okay. Oh, you should not move to a country unless you are near fluent in their language. This isn't about race, skin color, gender or religion. Purely language. I cannot fathom why anyone would think it is a good idea to move to a country where they don't speak much of a language. This is not certified, by the way. It's not certified. This does not include refugees, obviously. We have a wide variety of people at the hospital. I work out, but there have been an influx of people that don't speak much English. Not only do they struggle with patients, but they struggle with their colleagues as well. You cannot integrate with the community if you can't communicate effectively. When I travel to countries where they have different first languages, I always try to learn at least how to say the pleasantries. I mean, that's good. Good on you, mate. Yeah. Great. Yeah. I'm same, but I don't know, man. I still heavily disagree with this. Yeah. I mean, I think it's obvious that me and Ganta disagree. Actually, I agree, guys. I think you mean Sansei. Fuck Pascone. You're a dumbass. Yeah. I mean, the best way to learn a language is to be in the country. I agree. Look, I think the example that they're giving is kind of skewing this opinion. I think, you know, say for something like if you're working at a hospital or something, where, you know, communication is pretty fucking important. Not just with your colleagues, but with the people's, you know, whose lives you are trying to save. Then yes, I understand why maybe if you're working in that kind of work environment, then maybe you don't have to be maybe fluent, but at least, you know, be able to communicate, you know, at a substantial enough level that it won't, you know, interfere with your work. But if you're just like a regular person who's not working in those kinds of environments where maybe communication isn't necessary, like, I don't know, if you're working in like a data entry job or something where you don't have to talk to people all the time and stuff like that, then I don't think you need to be near fluent in a language. You know, just get by enough to just learn enough to get yourself in and out of trouble. I mean, I learned nothing when I moved here and I wish I had done something. I mean, it's definitely, you know, beneficial. Don't get me wrong. But I don't think you should like be denied entry into a country just because you don't know how to speak English. I was thinking this is like, haha, you know, funny, we moved to Japan. How much would the context and weight of this question change if we changed it to you have to learn English to go to an English-speaking country? Yeah. I'm like, oh, then suddenly it becomes something totally different, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that. Yeah. Oh, sorry, go on. Yeah. I think that, you know, out of just ease of your own fucking life, it's always easier to be willing to learn a language and be willing to practice it and get more fluent in it. Also, there's no like quantitative way to figure out if someone has fluency in a language. Like, what do you determine as being fluent? In a language? I wonder what they mean. Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah. Because fluency can mean different things for different people, depending on your situation. You know? Yeah. I mean, it's yeah. Do you have to learn like, I don't know, like college, like college thesis level of a language in order to be fluent? Or do you just need to be able to get in and out of trouble? Yeah. Or, you know, like be able to talk to any person in that culture. Like that it all depends on that as well. And honestly, like, yeah, it's beneficial, but you don't need to. It's not a necessity. I know plenty of people who live here who've been here for 5, 10, 15 years who are definitely not fluent in the language and they're getting by pretty okay. But, you know, I think it's cool to learn a new language. Totally. To show respect to the culture and stuff like that. Yes. And you should aim to, you know, maybe get to maybe not near fluency, but you know, just enough to get by. But I don't think it's a necessity. Yeah. Yeah. And it's calling out myself because I'm like, damn, I'm not happy with my Japanese level. And I could put more effort into, I can easily. But I think, but I think being able to admit that is also incredibly important. Because there are way too many people, I think, who move to a different country who think like, fuck it, you know, whatever. People around me can speak English or people around me can speak the language that I am, you know, is my mother tongue. So I don't have to know. I can get by without it, but it's like, yeah, sure. But there's also a lot of benefits that come to being able to speak the language too. So yeah, this is a, I don't know, this sucks. There's a crap opinion. Disagree. All right. Next opinion. Oh my God. Already disagree. Pickles absolutely ruin any sandwich. Do we have to even entertain this? I'm reading. I'm reading. There's nothing worse in the fast food experience than ordering a sandwich without pickles and getting the pickles anyway. There are three things I don't like on a burger. Let us to me. Okay. Okay. Let me translate this. I'm a baby. Brother eat your fucking pickle. You coward. Let us and tomatoes as well. No big deal. You can take those off with any without any issue and the burger is still be good. If they give you pickles, the whole burger is fucked. I can't imagine seeing a vegetable and being like, ew, I'm going to remove this from my burger. You are a fucking baby. You are a child. This is 19 days. What's the top comment? Please tell me it's not a clowning. I just didn't know. This is crazy. R slash pickles going to lose their brains. Cubano would like a word. Cubano would like a word. You know what? Maybe we should. Your entire bloodline is weak. Maybe, maybe we shouldn't be so harsh on him. No. These are people that would die. Maybe we shouldn't be so harsh on him. Wait, do you like pickles? I used to be a certified pickle hater. Okay. What happened? So I get it. Wait, what changed? Cubano's actually. Because here's the thing, right? Here's the thing. Pickles on like any sandwich, any burger, it is just such an overpowering taste and smell, in my opinion, right? Okay. Because it is, if you don't like that taste and you don't like the smell of pickles, it is going to overpower any other taste on that sandwich, which is why I used to hate pickles. And I just ended up really liking the taste. But before that, I'm like, if it has pickles, this sandwich is like stained because the taste is so strong. Is this your alter count? What is this? How many? This was 19 days ago. So that's that ain't my alter count. I mean, no. It's yummy. Yeah. Pickles are fucking delicious. This is the exact fucking argument you boys used about bacon, by the way, which is the taste is too fucking strong. So the problem with bacon is that it is another fatty thing that you are adding to an already fatty product. Pickle is like a relish. It's like a thing that's added on top, but doesn't like get in the way. The kind of sourness and vinegaryness of pickle adds an element that blends really well with the heavily fatty parts of burgers and sandwiches. Because meats are often, you know, quite heavy. If there's like mayo or sauce stuff like that, that's quite heavy. It, you know, bread starchy. So it just adds a very nice layer that cuts through sandwiches. Yeah. Sometimes the last thing I want in a really fatty, heavy burger is another piece of heavy, fatty substance. And bacon is just fat. It is. But the taste of pickles is not a subtle taste, you know. It is. No, but it needs to be strong. It cuts through. And if you don't like that taste and you don't fuck with that taste, it is going to cut through anything others, like anything outside of the pickle, you know. So, you know what? I think, I don't think we should be so harsh on the guy. All girl, all girl. That's, you know, I'll put a grie. I will happily bully this person. As an ex, as an ex pickle hater, I'm like, you know, I get it. I don't agree now, but I did get it at some point. Is it, is it like the vinegar taste that you didn't like with pickles? Yes. Because vinegar smells so fucking strong and taste. I love vinegar. I love vinegar. Like if you don't like, okay, because I still like, Do you like skim ono? Do you like skim ono? Yes. Okay. But that was, I guess my taste buds change after I moved to Japan. Right. You know, before I used to fucking despise vinegar. Because you have it in a dish and you immediately like smell it. You know, I think part of the reason I don't like, I can't stand tomato ketchup is because it's got vinegar in it. Oh, okay. Because I love like tomato puree, tomato paste, but I still can't fucking handle tomato ketchup. Just because it, I think there is, I used to hate all vinegar and now I very, very do much like a lot of vinegars. Do they not use vinegar in a lot of Thai dishes? They do. Right. But it's a different vinegar. I, the vinegar I kind of like hated growing up was the vinegar they put over like fish and chips. Because God damn does that vinegar stink, man. That vinegar does stink, but fuck me, it works. I could not get over the stink of that, man, as a kid. So good. I love vinegar. I don't know, man. Yeah. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a pickle fiend. I mean, I love pickled juice as well. So, all right. That's why this one is not certified unpopular, by the way. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I mean, it's pretty unpopular. It's just, it's crap. All right. Next one. Get good. Next one. All right. What kind of music do you listen to is a terrible conversation starter, especially if the person asking brings it up with no context or relevance to the existing conversation. Whenever someone asks me, uh, it, wait, what, when someone asks me it, I've learned to just tell them whatever band or type of music I was just listening to earlier that day slash week. The question is on par with when someone asks you, so tell me about yourself. Okay. Okay. Huh. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Indeed presents. Highers, you can't afford to get wrong. Like a warehouse operations manager. Uh, wherever the fort lives? I sold them. They were too expensive. I got a great deal on these scooters though. You expect us to move a two-ton pallet on a scooter? It'll be fun. Just think of the core strength you'll build. This is a job for sponsored jobs. This is what happens when you don't sponsor your job on Indeed. So the next time you need someone to get the job done right, get matched with quality candidates with an Indeed sponsored job. Visit Indeed.com slash Next hire and sponsor your job today. Okay. Okay. Ready? Three, two, one. Agree. Agree. Disagree. Oh, hell yeah. I hate when people ask me this. I hate. What are you? What are you trying to get from me? What do you want from me? I just want to know what kind of music you listen to. You know what? None of you got that business. Because I'm curious. You know what, Joe? What? I don't know. I don't know. Then that's fine. I don't know. I don't know. Then that's fine. Look, if I start, I'm not going to open a conversation with this, but you know, if we're on the topic of music, then I might talk about it, but I'm not going to open it up being like, so what kind of music, like out of nowhere being like, what kind of music do you listen to? Some people like, what kind of TV shows do you like? I'm like, what a fucking dumb ass question. What a stupid ass question. What do you mean, what kind of TV show? Just ask me about a show. You just ask me about a show you're watching. Oh, so okay. So like, I think it's like you're being way too broad. Is it the phrasing? Yeah. I don't like this question of like asking an entire group of media and being like, what kind of things you like. Right. So then if we... I think what a much better question is, what have you been listening to lately? Okay. Okay. I think if you ask that, you are getting an answer to this question without the person having to feel like they are like telling you broadly their text. It's like, oh, lately, lately I've been watching this. I've been watching this lately. Oh, but like season, this thing was like it. So that's why I got into it. I see. I see. You know, I think what kind is like a really shitty... Like if I'm like, what kind of foods you like? You're like, I'm like, I like all foods, bro. What do you mean? French fry. No, I don't know, man. Yeah. Okay. That actually makes sense. What's the best know you had lately? You'll be like, I had this thing. Yeah. Right. I think this kind of question is bad. Interesting. So that's why I agree. I think talking about music is fine. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Now that you say it like that, I am inclined to agree with you on that. Because how annoyed or like, stunned locked do you feel when someone's like, like, what's your favorite movie? It's like, oh my God, dude. Oh, I mean, I have like, I have stored like at least three movies that I throw out there if someone asks me. Do you actually feel insanely passionate about answering that question and that thing? Or is it you just kind of like, I've just got those answers because people ask this? No, for me, if you phrase a question like, what is your favorite movie, then nine times out of 10, the person doesn't actually give a fuck about what the answer is. So I just give them the most like, this is like the surface level stuff. And if you want to further ask me about say, like, why Paul Fisher is my favorite movie, then we can talk about it. Yeah. But like asking you what kind of movies do you like is not helpful because I imagine you probably like to watch a wide array of movies. Yeah. But if someone asked me that, then I would just start listing off my favorite movies. Right. So the question is bad. Yeah. I guess it's all about the phrasing. See, I agree with this, not for the same reasons as Kona, because I just don't have a personality when it comes to music. Yeah, likewise, likewise. Likewise, I feel the same way. I feel like every single other media says more about me than my music. Right, right. So, yeah, at least, yeah, I guess at least for me, I will only ask this question if I know you have an opinion on music. But if I, if I, but I'm not going to like open up a conversation with this question because I don't know if you even care about music. I'll ask it if you're, we're getting a topic of music. Whenever I get asked this question, I'm like, oh, I got to make up a personality. Because I actually don't even know. I'm like, I could say, fuck, listen to Tata Swift. To the same two songs for the past two months. I guess. I don't need to know that. Like that. I don't think about it. I just like that song right now and I play it every time I want to play music. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think this is a bad question to ask. I think this is a bad conversation starter. But I think if you're already on the topic of music, then I think this is okay to ask because then I know that you actually care about it. Yeah. But opening up with this, yes, I agree. This is a bad start. Well, I'd say music is like, unlike, let's say, something more specific. It's been more specific on a weird way. I don't know. It's, it's, I've always treated music a little bit differently. Because it's like some, some people who have like music taste, like when, when you ask someone for what is your music taste, right? It's rare that someone ever just says, you know, Billboard top 100 stuff. Because when you're asking like music taste, it almost seems like, okay, this is your like personality. Yeah. You know, it's really like some kind of hyper focus. Like me, sure. But when you ask the same thing about movies, for example, a lot of, a lot of people can take that as just like, oh, I've been watching X or Y recently and it could be like blockbuster movies. I don't know why in my, in my brain, maybe it's a mental thing, but music just feels a lot more, a lot less general, you know, of a question. I think yes, I agree. And that may be due to the fact that maybe the music, a leadest subculture is more front and center than say the movie, a leadest subculture. But I still don't think there's, if I ask someone what kind of music do you listen to? And they just start listening off a bunch of songs or albums or whatever artists that they've just been recently listening to. Yeah. It still answers my question. See, here's the problem. Here's my big problem I have with this, right? When people ask me this, I'm like, I don't, I don't even know if I like artists. I don't like albums. I just like songs, you know? That's fine. So like my playlist is an assortment of just like random ass fucking songs of different genres. That's cool. So I don't know how to begin answering this question because I'm like, I would say start answering this question by saying, I like this song or I like this song or I like this song. Just list off a bunch of songs and then it's up to the person who asked this question to discern whether, you know, what, what, how you interpret that. But there's no, there is no like same passion behind a song. People like artists, you know, people like genres. That's not true. That's not true. You can be super into a song if you want, because there's a lot of artists out there that like, you know, I'll be the first to admit to like, there's a ton of artists out there that I only like maybe one or two songs from. And this, it doesn't mean that I am a fan of that artist or I hate that artist. It's just that I've only been exposed to these particular songs and I like these particular songs from them, maybe not the rest of their discography, but yeah, you know, that's still an answer to this question. I like this song. You know, if someone, if, if I asked what kind of music do you like and so, and you said, oh, I like a harder, better, faster, stronger by Darth Pong, I'll be like, cool. That's a great song. So you're a Darth Pong fan. No. Well, then, then I might ask, do you, do you listen to Darth Pong? And if they go, no, I just like this song, then I'll be like, okay, fair enough. Cause you know, I'm not here to fucking police how you listen to music. I gotta give a fuck. I just want to know what songs or artists or, you know, maybe genres that you like. It's, it's not that deep. Anyway, it's, it's whatever. This is a bad conversation starter, but I don't think this is a bad question to ask. It completely depends on the conversation, I think, and how you interpret that answer. All right. Next question. Next takes. Next on popular opinion. Being late is disgustingly normalized among friends. Bro. Disgusting. What was it? What do you mean? Less so for work and such, more so among friends. It seems like most friend groups always have a handful of people who just show up 15 to 30 minutes late to hang out. I find it incredibly disrespectful, mainly when they are constantly late or consistently late. I think it's more normalized among friends because it's not professional in any way. Whenever I speak up and try to call them out for being consistently late and inconsiderate, it's casually brushed away. I can't fathom the idea of being late to anything and I'm always apologetic on the rare occasion I am. Yeah, the kids and bosses are a different story. I don't have any friends I have to deal with either. I would understand if this was a reason. Yeah, who could that be, man? Yeah, right. Geez. All right. This is kind of hard. Yeah, I mean, it's a weirdly phrased thing. All right, ready? Three, two, one. I agree. Oh, I disagree. I disagree. Shut the fuck up. Just so you guys all know, Gaunt is this person. Yes, Gaunt is this person. Gaunt is the late person. To be fair, there is different degrees of lateness. Oh, okay. Are we ranking lateness now? We are ranking lateness now because I've had people where I'm like, okay, I thought, you know, five, 10 minutes. I was like, okay, that is within the range of just like, okay, some people can show up that late, but there are some people that it's like half an hour. And I'm like that. I think anything beyond 10 minutes is unacceptable. I agree. You're 10 minutes. That's like, I think that's fair. I don't care about 10 minutes. Yeah. And look, if there have been situations, especially in Japan, where say, for example, it's like, okay, everybody meet up at, I don't know, Shibuya, you know, crossing at, let's say, five o'clock, you know, if you're going to be late, the most common decency is to just be like, hey, sorry, I'm going to be a little bit late. I might, you know, I might show up at X time. And it is not, you cannot do that after the time has passed. Yes. If it's like five and you're like, it's five, five, like, sorry, maybe another five, you knew 20 minutes ago, you're going to be late. You should have set my expectation. Yes. And if you didn't know, then that just means you were going to be late anyway. So, you know, common courtesy, you know, like, you know, occasionally something happens and your friend is like extraordinarily late and that just happens. Yeah. Of course. Occasionally normally sometimes. Yeah. If it's out of their control, like say, the train is late or the buses are late or whatever, right? Then I understand. But, you know, the common decency is just let them know ahead of time to be like, hey, sorry, you might have to wait a little bit longer. Then I'll be like, okay, cool. That's fine. Now, at least I know. But if we're meeting up at five and it's five 20 and I haven't heard from you, then I'll be like, what the fuck? I think in America, obviously, this is much more of a thing. I think mainly because of car culture. I think car culture adds a lot of variance to travel time. In a way that you can't accurately predict. But then I would probably argue that probably would embed as a shift instead of trying to aim to be on time, aim to be early. Then if you're late, you're hopefully on time. I mean, in Japan stuff, like, like in business, if you're not there 10 minutes before, you're kind of late. Yeah, you are late. Yeah. You're kind of late. If you rock up to the appointment at 12, you're late. Honestly, what the demerit is of showing up early to something. It's like some people are like allergic to showing up early to things. I'm like, what? Why? You can't be that fucking busy. But then I also think like there are, if it's a party, it's different. The party is a different to- Oh, yes, of course. Yeah. Party is different rules. Yes. But like if we book a restaurant and it's a six, I expect you to be there at six. Yeah. Six or 10 latest. Yeah. Absolutely. But do you think it's disgustingly normalised? That's the part people are disagreeing with. I mean, probably if this is like, I assume an American point of view. I think that completely depends on who you're friends with. You know, most of my friends show up on time. Again, I think it's because of Japan and Europe. It's disgustingly normalised in Southeast Asia. But that's because you guys like to chill. Depends on the time of day. If we meet up at 1pm, I'm like, everyone's going to be on time. If it's at 5pm, I'm like, all right, they're either going to be one hour early or two hours late. But this comes with the flexibility of the culture as well. I think like, let's say you have someone who's going to, I don't know, like build a drain for me in my house. In Japan, they'll show up 10 minutes before, but they'll have chatted with you months in advance to talk about what the problem is to build this drain perfectly. And they'll be gone by the time they say they'll be gone. And they won't say any longer. If they need to come back, they'll come back or whatever. In the UK, they might show up 10 minutes late. Hopefully they get it done. Hopefully it's a good job. You know, if they have to stay a little longer, they might stay a little longer. In America, it's like, it's kind of same, but in Southeast Asia, it feels like, they'll show up whenever the fuck, but you'll have your drain at some point. It'll be done. So don't worry about it. But it'll be done. It's like, you get the end result. When are they going to show up? I don't know. It's just different, different culturally accepted. Yes. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I think it is probably normalized among friends. I don't know. Not my friends. Yeah. Most of my friends show up. It's only Garnt who's late. Yeah, basically. I'm not, I'm not like 15 to 30 minutes late. I don't know, man. You were fucking with me. Who? No, Garnt isn't that bad. America is like... I'm just bad compared to these two, because these two always turn up early. Well, I feel like a dickhead in America when I show up 10 minutes early and they're 50 minutes late. Because now we're off seeing 25 minutes. Yeah. You know, and I'm stressing out about not being here on time. I feel like I'm more on being like, fuck, why am I here on time when no one else is here? Because I always overcompetitate for traffic. So I always end up trying to... Yes. So I'm like a dickhead. I love trying too hard. Pathetic. I always don't compensate enough for traffic, but... We're just too worldly. We are. We're just too worldly. We have too many worldviews. We know too much about the world. Yeah. Sorry for being smart. Antarctica time. It's all a research based on Antarctica. Do they show up on time? All right. What's next? All right. Next. All right. VR is dead and no one wants to admit it. The hype wave came and went and now we're left with a handful of novelty games that barely justify the hardware. The killer rap never arrived. Most VR games are glorified mini games, ports or gimmicks. Even titles like HL Alex. I don't know what that is. Half life. I'll half life. Alex couldn't push the medium beyond its niche. It's been years and nothing has come close since. Triple A support is non-existent and most indie devs have moved on. All right. Okay. Certified unpopular opinion. Okay. I mean, yeah. Okay. All right. Ready? Are you two one? I agree. I agree. Wow. And then we will have unpopular opinions. Do you have a VR headset at home? I do. Yeah. And I've played a lot of VR games. I get what you stream it. Yeah. Yeah. But I still think there's some really interesting experiences in VR. Right. But I think this idea that it was going to become the medium was pretty short. Well, they said the same thing about like 3D movies. All right. And that was hot. Apple Vision Pro. What about like, yeah, that used to be a meme and I haven't seen anyone wearing it now. No one wears the Apple Vision Pro. Yeah. It's fucking shit. No. I think it was, you know, the technology just isn't there yet. I think that's the sad truth is that like, yeah, we can kind of make these cool experiences. Is it the technology? Yeah. Absolutely. I think, I don't think it's seamless enough. Well, as someone who's tried the Apple Vision Pro before, it's a really fucking cool experience. But I just don't want this thing hanging off my face while I do it. Yeah. And no matter what, VR is just not casual enough. Yeah. It doesn't feel casual enough. Every time it's, you know, I've done VR, it's always been mostly for streams or like, I've never casually VR games. No, because it's not a casual experience. Where in those headsets is uncomfortable and you have to charge them. You have to, it's annoying like using VR, like the higher end VR especially, you know, these people are very dedicated to spend all their time on VR chat. But it's really fucking cumbersome to have to actually settle this shit off. And then I feel the wires tugging on my back. So every time I, like, I don't, I don't ever feel like I'm in the game. No. Everything about it is uncomfortable to do. And I think that is a thing just because the technology just is not there. Would it become more of a genre? I think so if the technology was better, but I don't think at least in our lifetime, it'll ever be better than like, it'll ever be more popular than just gaming on a console. Yeah. It's not pick up and play enough to justify it sticking around or like people doing stuff with it because it's like unlike a mobile game or, you know, maybe like even a PC game, it's just, it's so much less of a hassle and less effort to just like, hop on and do it. Whereas like VR headsets like, yeah, the setup takes fucking forever. The games are limited. And then even then a lot of people, including myself, can't do it for that long because you either start to get sick or sweaty or both. I mean, that's the, yeah, you're looking at a screen at the end of the day. And the screen is even there or right here. And I think you're also never going to get all the sensors that are really necessary. No. I think it was, it was silly to think that it was ever going to replace gaming, at least in the short term. I mean, who knows whether the technology might be in 100 years, but I don't think in our lifetime, it'll ever be more popular than just putting a screen in front of you and doing it. Yeah, I agree. I think the thing is that also the barrier of entry is just really high as well. Much higher than just a usual thing like buying a TV or even just getting a game console because you need a good PC to run it a lot of the times. But there are more casual VR headsets right now like the Facebook ones. Yeah, but I also think that it's a sign of bad times if VR is popular. Yeah. People are trying to escape. No, I think, well, yeah, I think it's kind of like if you can't even stomach being in your own room, you need to be in this fucking headset. Like, so it's gone wrong. I think it's a bad, it's a bad omen if VR becomes more popular. I think it is, it is a telling thing that people cannot even dare to be too boring for you. Of their real life. In fact, I think the biggest barrier of entry isn't even the technology. It's just space. Yeah. Space is a big thing because... Well, that's why the meta one was so popular because it required no space. The idea was that you could do everything just sitting. Yeah. I don't know. It's just sitting VR just, I've done it and it feels weird, you know, because I'm like... Because I still know I'm sitting on my couch in the living room. Yeah. Yeah, right. Like the couch doesn't magically disappear and I'm like, oh, I don't know the world. Like, yeah. Yeah, it's not, it's not good. No. VR is just kind of, I mean, so I think, yeah, it is dead. But I think it comes in waves. I think people get excited about it as the technology gets better. And I'm sure five, 10 years, there'll be some new device that really revolutionizes it, makes it more accessible and more people get into it. But I don't think for a long time it's going to ever replace what we're currently doing. Even like people are like, AR, AR, AR is fucking shit. AR is shit. They've been trying to make it work for years now. It looks shit still. Like the devices just aren't powerful enough yet. Like that's, I mean, we're to be remotely compelling. Like the, the most used that we've gotten out of it are as the fucking dancing hot dog memes or these stupid little AR things. It's not very good. Well, you know what? I do love that little guy, but. Yeah. And even like when it's like, measure your home, see if this thing fits half the time it looks like shit. And it's usually wrong. It's not. I don't really get a sense of it in my room. I don't, I don't like this. Yeah, that's true. I should just fucking learn how to have more critical thinking on how a shape might fit in my room. I think the only like AR thing that I've maybe like consistently used is like the tape measure app on my phone. Yeah. It's just like, if I can't, it's not bad, but like, you know, and it works if I can't find my tape measure. When you don't have a tape measure. Yes. It's the last resort. It's crazy because the tape measure is a very, very useful tool. Probably one of the ones you use most out of any tool in your house normally. So just fucking get a tape measure. It's fucking great. Yeah. You can actually just put it down and exactly see the exact measurements. It's so good because every time I've used the phone one, I'm always like, I think it's off a couple of centimeters. And I can't trust it to be perfect. Yeah. And I don't want to have to fucking, you know what the tape measure doesn't ask me to do? It doesn't ask me to fucking scan my environment to give Apple a fucking 3d render of my room. I don't want that. I just want to fucking pull up the measure and do it. Yeah. Yep. I agree. And in Japan, I love it. Japan, so many of these stalls will be like, do you want to take measure? If you want to measure something. They always have measures. And I love that the Japan is weirdly, you know, seen as a techno place, but they're very, very retro and analog that I always have these tools ready for you. It's great. I love it. Fuck the blankers. Can't wait for the TikTok trends where it's like, why Japan is living in 1918? That's just all the analog stuff. The retro haven. That is Japan. Yeah. Imagine, man. I think Japan is in the past in a lot of ways. But I think it's also kind of done a good job in a weird way of trying to incorporate more thoughtful tech that actually is more impactful. Yes. But they've also just tried to integrate shit that is completely dog shit. Yes. Yep. And for somehow they haven't gotten websites right. And it's been, well, 20 years, 30 years since we've had website UI design. Like it is kind of shocking how UI is still absolute dog shit. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But yeah, VR is dead. All right. Oh my God. Okay. Sushi absolutely sucks. All right. Fuck you first. We're just going to disagree. Why are you going? Being an Asian and having gone to Japan five times, I can confidently say that sushi sucks. I went to a Michelin star restaurant in Japan that specializes in sushi. It was mediocre. Sushi just lacks flavor. It's basically just fish and sour rice in between seaweed. It needs some flavor. Some things in life are simple and delicious, but some things are not like that. This is rage bait. This has to be rage bait. First of all, you went to a Michelin star restaurant in Japan. So automatically you just lost the game. And sushi lacks in flavor. They used to be so believable, man. Let's move on. It's basically just fish and sour rice in between seaweed. Yeah. They fucking created a peak from three things. Yeah. And steak is just meat and salt and pepper. Exactly. Bread is just bread. Yeah. Bread is wheat and flour. All right. What's the next one? Yeah, it sucks. Fuck you. You don't get a plus one to a wedding. Not getting a plus one isn't an insult. It's normal. You're just there to support the couple, not to make it your own perfect social outing. Weddings are expensive, intimate, and planned down to the head count. You don't need to bring someone just to avoid being alone for a few hours. 90% or more of the people at that wedding are certified cool by the bride and or groom. You're literally surrounded by people you love, the people you love also love. Yeah. Joey, think about this carefully. Think about your answer very carefully, Joey. Yeah, this matters. So they're saying that you shouldn't bring a plus one to a wedding? Yeah. They're arguing that people shouldn't get plus ones. Like if the person organizing the wedding doesn't want to give up plus ones, that's fine. Oh, okay. I see. I see. Okay. All right. Three, two, one. I agree. Yeah. Is this an unpopular opinion? How is this unpopular? This is unpopular. Certified unpopular. How is this certified? You let me see the comments. No, no, no, no. Don't see the comments yet. I think we should make our arguments first. Okay. Well, why we agree with this? Because clearly we're in the minority here. All right. I mean, I personally think that, you know, obviously, first of all, it depends on how close you are to the groom and the bride. I think if you're like, if you're like a groom's man, I think it's sort of like that. 100%. Like you, you can blame it plus one. Yeah. Because I think your crucial part to this, you're probably already, both your you and your person you're bringing is probably familiar with the one. But I think sometimes you invite people. I imagine that you're like, I don't really want to invite this person, but they could cause family drama. I don't want to exactly want to give them a plus one. Yeah. Like I think you don't have to. You're, it's your wedding. It's your day. I think if you don't know them, you shouldn't have to have them. You said it much more eloquently than I would have said it. I'll break it down. It's my fucking wedding, bro. Yes. It's my fucking wedding. It's the one day in your life where everything can be the exact fucking way you want it to be. And it should be that day because it is your day. So much wedding drama is all so much about this. Oh, the, you know, social pressure of having to invite this person or having to invite that person. Or, you know, I kind of like, you know, if you're inviting this person, then you have to invite that person. And it's such a huge fucking headache at the end of the day because a wedding should be a celebration of your happiness and not just that. But it should be a celebration of your happiness with the needs and means that you have. Weddings are fucking expensive, bro. Like they are expensive as hell. And one plus one, that adds up to your free bar. Absolutely. Would you pay for, I mean, would you pay for one of your mates meal for an entire night? Because that's what you're going to be doing if you're inviting them to the venue. If you have an open bar, that's going to be another one that you're paying for the entire night. Now spread that across like dozens, if not hundreds of people, if you're going to a bloody Indian wedding, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a lot. Or a Japanese wedding. Or a Japanese wedding. I mean, I assume we're mostly talking about a Western wedding. Yeah. Right. But yeah, I know. I, I think it's understandable. It's your day. It's the, it's the one day where you're allowed to be selective about the people you want to spend your most important day of your life with. I guess the counter argument would be you're asking people to show up for something. If they want to bring someone that's fine. But I don't know. I think I never really saw it. I've never seen a wedding as you're asking people to, I don't see that. That's why I think some people would see it like that. Then I think, I think it's a wedding. You invite people and you're expecting them to, to, you know, travel. Well, I mean, if I saw it's such a fucking bitch. Yeah. If they don't want to come, I think, I think I am of the mindset that like, because I, you know, normally you go to a lot more weddings than you have. Normally that is the normal human ratio. And I still think it is more of a like an honor as a mate to be able to go to a friend's wedding or a family's wedding. I don't see it as an obligation. Like I'm very stoked to go to weddings. Yeah. Same here. Even if they could sometimes be tiring, expensive, annoying, and just all around like shit to have. Because at the end of the day, the couple doesn't even have to have a wedding. If they don't want to. No, no, I think it's like, yeah, I think it's an honor. So I don't really see it as. Well, like for me, because I had to deal with like quite a lot of stuff for my wedding in terms of like, you know, especially with having such a big family who'd want to invite and stuff like that. And I think it's equally important that if there is someone who's traveling and they can't make it for, you know, they're maybe they live far away or maybe that it's expensive that there is an equal understanding on the opposite end as well. Like if you send out an invite, I know some people that can get really offended if someone isn't able to make it. But genuinely, there are people that are just not able to make it. And there is people that even just traveling to a wedding and just being there. It's not everything you're privileged, but sometimes it is difficult as well. And even though it is a big day, it is like the most special day. You have to be understanding about other people's situations and life situations as well. Because the last thing I wanted to do is put people in an uncomfortable situation to come to my day. Yeah. You know, let's have a look at the comments then. Yeah. One of the comments like how is this certified on popular? This is traditional etiquette before the bad idea of random tag alongs become popularized as an etiquette guide. But the invite needs to do the work to know the invites efficiently. Well, to know if they are a life partner or not, then invite that person by name if they do. Um, I guess, I mean, that's just good advice, I guess. What are the other comments? There's no right answer to this. It's what the bride and groom want. I agree. That is it. I agree. That is it. It's completely up to what the bride and groom want because it's their day. And I don't think you have any space to argue with that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I know what else. Yo, bro, I'm trying to fuck too. I think if you invite someone like a distant colleague, a college friend to a wedding, they should get a plus one. I would, I think like you're reaching. Yeah. If you're distant with them, why are you inviting them to your wedding? Yeah, why are you inviting them? They should get a plus one so that they don't have to travel slash attend alone if they don't know. How about you just don't invite them? You can hang out with them after a wedding. Is this normal that you invite people you're not really close with? I'm not going to. Yeah. Also, if that's the case, it almost feels like they have to have like a pressure to say, okay, I'm coming. Like I said, I didn't invite anyone to my wedding that I didn't think wanted to come. Right. You know, it's like you said, it's an honor to attend a wedding. And honestly, if I get invited and cities are invited, well, the way I perceive that is, like even if it's someone distant or something, the way I perceive that is, well, my needs don't up-surp their needs for their wedding day. You know, I'm there to show my support. I'm there to be a part of the celebration. If they don't like no Sydney as well as me, it's totally understandable. There's no pressure there. Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, I think like if you were the person being invited and you really wanted to bring a plus one, presumably you're close with the person because they invited you to the wedding and we really want to bring a plus one. I mean, I'm sure that you can probably just ask, like, hey, is it cool? I'm being a plus one. If it's not totally chill, if they say no, then you shouldn't be like offended by that. That's their choice. It's their day. Yeah. Yeah. Let them let them be surrounded by the people that they actually want to be around and, you know, not create an awkward opinion, not creating an awkward situation with that person. Yeah. Next one. Yeah. I don't know. This is weird. What is this an American thing? I don't even know. Wedding drama is weird, man. Wedding politics is weird. Yeah. I'm like, is it that deep? I was like, is it that deep? Okay. First class should be called last in flights. First class passengers should be called last when boarding for a number of reasons. It gives time to be late. Why you need to be there before everyone just to be called first if you're paying like 10x. It avoids to have all other people walking through you as they board. Since the seats are in the front, it's super easy to fill up last with no delays. And the plane fills up faster because first class people are not in the way as coach heads to the back of the plane. Yo, eat the rich. Am I right? Yeah. I think this must be someone who probably flies probably a lot like domestically because this is more of a domestic flight issue because international flights. It's a completely different entrance. Yeah. Nearly all of them have different entrances. So if you had first class and you wanted to rock up, five minutes for the plane takes off, you could easily do that. Even if there was a line for economy, you could rock up. Speaking as somebody who travels luxuriously. All right. I try to travel luxuriously. Right. I like to get on the plane early just because for me, the nicest part of flying is the plane. Sitting down in my little thing. Yeah. The airport is the worst part. You know, maybe I never drink the orange juice or the champagne because I don't care. Oh, you don't? No. Orange juice is a waste of calories. I don't want to get fucked up right away. Oh, I do. I rarely drink on the flights I do. Like alcohol? Yeah. It's normally if it's like a vacation flight, which is a very rare one for me. All that one time I got a first class upgrade, which is my first time doing it. Oh, you bet. I rinsed. I rinsed. Oh, yeah. Of course. I was like, which vintage is this again? Doesn't matter. Bring it out. I mean, that was a flight that you boarded last. I did not board last. I think I boarded first. Yeah. Right. Again, I mean, you want maximum time on the plane because the most stressful part of flying is the airport. Having to go through the airport, get through security, do all this shit. The quicker I am getting on the plane is more time relaxing, but more time to my destination in my head. I don't want to be sitting around in a fucking airport. I hate the airport. I don't think this is like a first class issue because like I'm looking at this whole thing of like the since the seats are in the front, it's super easy to fill up last with no delays. I don't know. I've been on so many, like especially American domestic flights where the system they have implemented to get people on the plane just doesn't make any sense at all. Because there is supposedly like an optimal way to do it, but I've barely seen any flights actually do the optimal way. Well, yeah. The optimal way is like cascading. Yeah. It would be like send people in like on the windows first. Yeah. And then I think of something like that. I'm not sure, but I mean, yeah, it is like the most efficient way to board a flight is how they currently do it. Yeah. Because I look, you know, when you especially go on like flights in America and you know, they usually split up into like zones or like, you know, zone one or zone two or whatever, group one, group two, stuff like that. And there have been so many flights where I'm like, okay, I'm in like group two or three, right, which is like more to the front. So I would assume that, you know, the system they have implemented is like, as you said, like, you know, get the people maybe in the back window first. I mean, I hate the groups as well. Yeah. Because half the time it's like group one, group two, groups three through seven, you're like, what? Bro, what happened? It's like, what's the point of that? Bro, what is the point of these numbers? Also, there's always that one mother f... It's like when they call group one, there's always that one mother f... Group six, that's like, all right, it's my time. Yeah. I think it's not really a first class problem. It's just a problem of, I don't know, I don't think most airlines know how to actually board planes officially. They know. But it's for money reasons. Right. You need to separate the groups for money. Right. Because if you get to board first, you know, you have to remember as well in normally, if you're doing like domestic flights, people bring carry-ons and they want to fight for the carry-on space. So getting on first means you get the carry-on space. Right. You have to like fight like a savage to get a corner. True. True. Which I hate doing. I fucking hate having a fight for that. There's something so dehumanizing, but having a fucking spot on the cabin to put your carry-on. Yeah. It's such a like, you're like, I'm just trying to brawl. We're all fighting the same battle. Can we not just give each other a little bit more room? And then when you like see some motherfucker who's sitting there and they've put their bag in the most inefficient way in the fucking overhead and I'm looking at them and I'm like, I'm going to move your bag. I'm moving your fucking bag. Oh, yeah, yeah. Why did you do this? Like you knew what was going to happen. Did you think this plane wasn't going to fill up? You saw the people waiting. You knew that you had to pack your bag more efficiently. Or when they put like five things up there, I'm like, bitch, you know you have to hold on to half of this. Yeah. Take this shit down. I'm like, just fucking shaking your shit. Like for Christ's sake. Yeah. Save us all the headache. But can we all agree, the people who instantly stand up the moment the plane lands are the cringes group of all? Why so? You're a stander, aren't you, Jerry? I am a stander. Mother fucker. Because I've been sitting for a long time and I want to fucking stretch my legs. Okay. It's a domestic flight, right? Normally, let's say average three hours. Right. You can wait five fucking five more minutes. I still want to stand up though, because I want to stretch my legs. I hate it. Why? Why do you hate it? Because it just, it creates congestion in the aisle just because people can't wait two more minutes. The person in front of you is going, whether you stand up and make pressure or not. Just let them go. Sit down. I used to think that until taking more domestic flights with the issue of bag and cabin and stuff like that. Because then, if it's a full flight, I start having to stand up because you have to mentally... No, you don't. No, no, no. You have to mentally take up, prepare and plan for like, okay, my bag is now two seats behind. I got to be like, okay, I got to take up this amount of space so I can reach for like the bag. So, like... No, no, no. Because there's always going to be someone in front of you who's slow, who is going to slow down the process, which gives you time to stand up, get out. Yeah. And every time I see that, I'm like, can you hurry the fuck up? I want to get out of this plane. I hate all of you right now. No, no. I think the problem is being caused by a lot of people who think the same and they think like, oh, someone else stood up. I need to stand up. Unfortunately, people do think the same. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But if people were fucking smart, we wouldn't have this problem. Yeah. Unfortunately, though, people are not smart. It's stressful. I'm like, you're making stress. Look, my favorite quote is from men in black, you know? Okay. A person is smart. People are dumb. And this is an exact example. It does feel like sometimes it's the closest we'll ever get to a coliseum. People just lose all sense of rationality on the plane and they become absolute savages. You know why? Because people hate being on planes. I know they do. I know. But it's like an experiment. What happens when you put people in a cabin and they start treating the fellow man like shit because they want to get off the plane 30 seconds faster. And it's probably not even faster. Yeah. I think in their head, though, it feels faster. Yeah. And that's why they do it. All right. Well, anyway, next. You say next like a director. Next. Next. Next. Next. Next take. Picking your nose is fine. Sometimes stuff gets dried up in there and you have to clean out. Every person has had that issue at some point. It's ridiculous to pretend that no one has a need to get up in there once in a while. It's like cleaning your ears out from wax. It's just something every person experiences. All right. All right. Ready? Three, two, one. Agreed. Agreed. Damn. I'm a nose picker, man. Same. I hate to admit it. Like, do I recognize that it's kind of gross? Yeah. But... Dude, sometimes you become like a... Feel amazing when you get them out. Dude, sometimes I feel like a fucking prospect. It was just found gold. I'm just like, oh, look at this fucker. You get those every now and then where it's like, you could have blown it out with the tissue, but sometimes it's just like, well, no one's looking. And if I hide my thing away, I can get it out and it feels good for me. It's great when you get like the deep ones. Oh, yeah. I don't even really do it. Like a part of your brain just came out. I was like, oh. I'm not like, if it takes snotty and blown... No, no, no. It's gonna be dry. Yeah, dry. If it's dry and it's like solid, then you got to get the good pick. Of course. Of course. You got to get the good pick, man. Yeah, of course. If there's nothing more satisfying, I think, out of every orifice in your body, then picking your nose. Yeah. Totally. But I think as well, there is like a subtlety to it that you also have to do just societally speaking. Like, if you're in like a fucking crowd or you're in the public, right? And you're like full on just like straight up going in like that without anything. Then like, then it's like, okay, you know what? You could have used your other hand to maybe hide it. Yeah. But I think like, yeah. There's time and place. There's a time and place for it. Sometimes you got to get your shit out. Yeah, home. Bro, I'm ripping it. Oh, yeah, dude. Same. They call me a minor. Yeah. Fucking getting right up in that bitch. All right. What's next? People that hate small talk are just bad conversationalists. If you can't have an engaging conversation about things like the weather, how good the orange you just ate was, or someone's new haircut, then 99% of the time a conversation about whether God is dead, the purpose of life or whatever you saw on your Ayahuasca trip won't be that interesting either. I feel this is like, you're trying to argue like both ends of the spectrum. There's two arguments here. The argument that he said in his, is his, oh shit, his follow up is, I feel like different to what he said. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bit. But anyway, let's, let's say that. Um, okay. All right. Okay. Ready? Three, two, one. Disagree. Disagree. You'll disagree. No, I look, we do this fucking podcast. I think we're very all competent small talkers. Yeah. This is some, so I'm just not in the fucking mood sometimes. Exactly. And I think that it's okay to not be in the mood. I think people who never engage with any small talk. Yeah, it's pretty fair argument, but there was just a time I'm sure you, everyone has had in their life where they're tired. And someone is just trying to spark conversation about something. You're like, I was in five. Yeah. I think people who are like this, who, you know, constantly need to find a way to engage some kind of small talk, are just afraid to be in silence sometimes. There's a comfort in some. Yeah. Like sometimes it's, there's nothing wrong with being silent for a little bit. You know, you don't have to constantly be, this is definitely this, I feel this is definitely the case when say, for example, you're hanging out with a friend and they bring a friend that maybe you've never met before you're not that close with. And I feel a lot of people are like, oh, fuck, it's awkward because no one has talked for the past two minutes. So I have to engage in conversation. I'm like, I don't know. Sometimes it's okay to just be okay with being silent. You know, there's nothing, it doesn't mean I hate you. It just means that I don't have anything particularly interesting to say. And I'm not going to bring up like the weather to someone. If I don't think it's going to lead to any kind of meaningful conversation. Like I rather just not talk. Yeah. I'm of like the complete opposite unpopular opinion, I guess. Of what? Just ban all small talk. I hate all small talk. You want every conversation to be meaningful? Yeah. Otherwise, why am I there? Oh, no, no, no. Why am I there, bro? Why am I there? I don't know if I agree with that. I think this take is a little extreme enough. Yeah. And you, yeah. I was going to say, I fucking despise small talk. The moment you engage in small talk, I have every right to slap you in the face. Because whenever I engage in small talk, it's almost like a different part of my brain is being activated. Small talk is a feeler sometimes. Sometimes you don't know what you can talk about with a person. Yes. And small talk allows you to kind of- It's a good way to test the boundary. Figure out a conversation, figure out the person they are a little bit, and kind of figure out where to send the conversation from there. If there's a deeper meaning to a topic. Like, you know, there's a lot of people who, quite frankly, I don't want to hear their deep thoughts on certain things. Okay. Well, then what counts as small talk then? I mean, what have you been up to recently? What have you been up to recently? Yeah, let me know what's going on. What have you been up to? Does that count as small talk? Because that's- Yeah, I think I hear small talk. Small talk. Small talk. That's small talk. Because it doesn't- Because their answer could be like- Are you thinking extremely narrow in the sense of like, why has this been good? Maybe they all- Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You know, some- When I think small talk, it's just like, you know, sometimes you have a stranger or something in like the lift or whatever. And they just randomly spark up a conversation. And those kinds of conversations, I'm just like, I'm using mental energy to converse with something where I know it's not going to lead anywhere. Well, you might become friends with that person. It might become the start of a blossoming friendship. In the fucking lift. It might be. Yeah, I don't know about the lift. You might see that person again, you're at the bar or something, you might be like, yo, what's up? How you doing? It's like, yo, what's up? You're the one who asked me about the weather, right? I know. I also think there's a certain joy. There's a joy that can be had with conversing with strangers. And sharing a moment. Yeah, I think it just depends on the mood that I mean, on the day. Yeah. I mean, like, yeah. Sometimes I'm completely okay. Sometimes I'm the one to start the small talk with someone in the lift. But sometimes I'm just like, I don't want to fucking talk to anybody right now. I just want to be in my own space. I get that, Joe. That sounds like a very balanced opinion. Yes. But also I could be that person, but I can't deny the fact that I fucking despise it. You know, I just... So you would rather just no small talk ever? Uh, like, like, if you were to go into a lift and there was someone in there, you would say a hundred times out of a hundred, you'd rather silence. Silence, bro. Silence all the time. I mean, there are times when I want silence. There are times when I want silence, but if I'm talking numbers, bro, if I'm talking percentage, if I could change the world, yeah, 100% of the time, I feel like why risk it? Why risk it? Why risk the mental energy of having this small talk? Uh, and just having to, uh, having to be aware of my surroundings. Does small talk really like take that much away from your brain power? Yes, it does. Yes, it does. No, it doesn't. Oh, you know what? That sounds like your conversation. You know, I feel like botchy in this moment, you know, because I just... Shut the fuck up, dude. You don't deserve to get in the lift. Take the stairs. Why do I need to be on guard for a random conversation that could attack me at any moment? Bro, take the stairs. Take the stairs. That could attack me at any moment. You know, what if, what if, you know, sometimes when you're in a lift or something and there are times, right? There are times when I'm like, I could feel the person next to me wanting to engage in the conversation. And mentally I'm like, don't do it, bro. Don't, I don't want this. I want this, bro. Don't, I know what you're thinking. Bro, no silence. Just, just live with the silence, please. Bro, no wonder you love this country. This country is perfect for you. I can't be the only fucking one. It's just, oh man. I mean, look, like I'm not, I'm not a person who like goes into a lift full of people and, you know, wants to be like, I hope someone starts talking to me. Like I'm not like that, but if someone does start talking to me, then I'll, you know, as long as they're not being rude, I'll, I'll fucking engage in it. I'm real happy for you. I'll engage in it with, as well, but I'm, I'm real happy, but I'm not happy about engaging with it, but I will do it. It's a necessity for you. I see. I see. What's next? All right. Burger and fries shouldn't go together. Okay, this is done. This has gotten me into a lot of arguments with friends, but I have always believed that burgers and fries don't go well together. The fries and burger buns are both rather dry and starchy, which makes the whole experience so boring. Yes. Even with good fries and buns, I believe fries would go so much better with some meat and sauce, and burgers would go better with some sort of salads, e.g. colds or, but together they don't compliment each other. Pierce, this is not a matter of health or something like that. They just don't go together. Nah, I disagree. I've hard disagree. I'm not even writing it. It's not even worth the time. Yeah. Are you disagreeing? Yeah, I'm disagreeing. Yeah. I'm just going to make another take up. Okay. I knew, I knew you were. I can tell when you're cooking. What's, what? Just like, there's one thing I never understood, and that's people who eat burgers and fries completely separately. Like, let me, let me explain. Right. Either they completely finish the fries and then start the burger, or they completely finish the burger and finish the fries. That fucking, I can't mentally like. Yeah. I also don't understand. I can't mentally comprehend that. The only time I will like do that is when the burger is so messy that I want to like finish the burger so I can get rid of this mess on my hand so I can enjoy the fries. Now the burgers and fries combos, they go, they go to- No, I agree. I agree. I agree. There are occasions where I, I drink the dark side, but this is a dumb take. Yes. This is a very, this is a very, very dumb take. Not to say that, you know, there are other sides that also go well with like a burger. Like, you know, sometimes I'll get a salad or sometimes I'll, you know, fucking get a coleslaw or, you know, whatever it might be. But like to say that fries is bad with a burger is just, no, it just sounds like the burgers and fries that you've had in your life have just been shit. Yeah. I'll shit. I put fries inside the burger. I think it's a legit strad. That's a legit strad. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Get a get in the crisp fan. Which totally. All right. Mr. Brightside is awful. I assume this is the killer song. I live in the UK and the song has been played everywhere on the radio in bars and in night clubs constantly for almost 20 years. People always sing along to it while drunk and it's almost become an unofficial anthem played at every event that employs a DJ. The verse is literally two notes, the second and first verse are the same and the outro is just two lyrics repeated over and over for crying out loud. I don't understand why that song is so popular. It's just an awful song from start to finish. It just sounds like you don't like having fun. No, it's a banger. It's a fucking banger. I don't particularly like the song, but it is fun to not really. Why not? Has it just been overplayed? Yeah. Right. I think I think it's more of a problem of overplay. Yeah. It being a bad song. I kind of sick of hearing it. Do you know the one I was sick of hearing? Kings of Leon. Sex on Fire. That like Mr. Brightside. I'm like, I always give that a pass. Sex on Fire. I'm like, Sex on Fire is the team who version of Mr. Brightside. Yeah. I don't know. I think the problem, yeah, but this is the thing. The arguments that they're putting up here can be applied at any overplayed song. Like once you start hearing the same song 500 times, yeah, I'm sure most people will get sick of it. That's a good time. Do you know what's like awesome though? Now as soon as I hear Mr. Brightside, I get nostalgic for England. Just because it's so overplayed there. So when I hear it in public spaces here, I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. And also if it comes up, I'm the first person to start fucking singing along to that song. I love that song. Yeah. I don't know. It's a yeah. I will sing along with it. Yeah. Because it's fun. It's a fun song. It's a fun thing that a lot of people share. Yeah. Yeah. Enjoy my life. Absolutely. So that's good. Yeah. All right. Whatever. Yeah. Whatever. All right. Sorry you don't like it. Employees that fully work from home are becoming the weird homeschool kids of the adult world. Okay. People who work from home full time are becoming increasingly socially awkward and inept. It's like this slowly reverting to a state of social isolation similar to what we often see with homeschooled kids. It's especially pronounced in newer employees that were remote for a significant portion of their education. Just as homeschooled children can miss out on the valuable social interactions and experiences that come with traditional schooling. Remote workers are missing out on the in-person connections that foster strong social skills. Sure there are obvious benefits to remote work like flexibility and avoiding a commute, but the constant lack of in-person interaction is taking a toll. People are losing their ability to read social cues, have casual conversations, and navigate office politics. It's not just about the lack of water cooler chats. It's about the diminished opportunities to develop essential soft skills that are crucial for success in both professional and personal life. Well, I mean this is tough because... It's a very nuanced... But we're also fucking YouTubers. This is like not a very good... Would you describe... No, no, no, I think it's a good conversation, but I just want to... I mean obviously like our perspective is one that is very skewed, I think to argue this. Yes. We don't have normal fucking jobs. Um... From the experience I've had, I would actually kind of agree with that to some point. Oh really? Obviously my experience is much more legit. Well, what did you take off? I think I kind of agree with the core of the argument. I think the way he's probably phrased it was quite inflammatory. Yeah. In the title to get a lot of... Yeah, I said disagree, but it's kind of hard to fully agree or disagree with this. Okay, let's say this. So I think calling people who want to work from home, we at home... Yeah, that's inflammatory. So that's just bait. Yeah. I don't agree with that. I agree with it. Like I think there's a lot of benefits to working physically with someone. I think I do also agree that commuting is probably the most soul-sucking thing of all time. Yes. There's just nothing... Especially in this country. Yeah. In any country, I think... Especially if you have to drive. Like... That's true. That's true. It is like the most soul-sucking activity I think a human can do is commuting. So I think it's understandable why working from home has become a really big ask. Yeah. But I do really think that working alongside someone, having... Meeting them in person is really important. I think there is a lot of skills that you can learn. I mean, a lot of the stuff that we do is online, but we also have a lot of stuff that needs to be done in person with people. And I... Whenever I get to work with someone in person, I end up building a much stronger relationship and connection with that person than I would from endless Zoom meetings. Of course. Yeah. Or fucking just, you know, these meetings that you're like, I don't know who all these people are. I don't know who does what. I don't know who the fuck is who I'm talking to. There's just something so important, I think, about learning that skill to be able to work with someone in person. That being said, obviously our perspective comes from one... Where we're YouTubers and our in-person work is very, very different from what a normal person in our face looks. Yeah. If I don't want to work with someone, I just don't work with them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I say this as someone who did have a period where I had a lot of homework, homeworking time, because there was a time when my commute was two and a half hours one way. That's like, that's crazy. But it was a choice I made for myself to basically save on rent on not having to live in London. That's a different thing. But, you know, the ease was there, the convenience was there, and I was able to get my work done. And it was exciting at first where I was like, cool, I get to fucking... I don't have to go show up to the office. I can just work from home. This is fucking great. But there did come a time when, you know, there was some periods where I did work a lot from home, when I felt like I was missing a part of just normal daily adult life, you know, because there's a lot of things about having coworkers and just having just a social environment and group to really feel like you are working towards something together that really balances you as an adult and that you remind yourself that not all social interactions are through fucking Zoom meetings or Teams meetings or something like that. And I felt like if I had my entire career working just remotely, I feel like I would lose a lot of that, unless I had another kind of like social group or social circle that's really that got me out the house on a regular basis. So I do really... I don't think that... I think that in the past we've put too much emphasis on having to be in the office and, you know, not doing remote work, but I do feel like office work is important for like a lot, you know, at least coming into the office on a semi-regular basis, if you can, if your situation permits it, it helps balances you out as a person all around, I think. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, I mean, like personally speaking, I didn't really have any kind of like proper job, I guess, before doing YouTube. I guess the closest I got was like, you know, interning at an IT company in Japan for like three months and every day I did have to like commute, I think it was like an hour and a half to the office. And, you know, I'm sure, you know, being in that office environment definitely taught me a lot about, I guess, especially in Japan, the whole like etiquette and stuff like that and the whole Senpai Kōhai culture that you can't really experience, you know, working from home. But I didn't necessarily learn any like important, like valuable social interactions or experiences because my line of work didn't really encompass that because, you know, all I was doing was going to the office and then working on week-long projects on my own and there was very little like social interactions that happened in between that. I think that's why it's nice, whether it's like a balance or an option to have a balance or like if you come in once a week or whatever the balance is, right? Yeah, yeah. It's nice to have. Yeah, I think like, yeah, it shouldn't be like zero or 100. I think it should be, you know, maybe like two or three days of the week, I think it's fine. Because like I could extend this not just like fully homeworking adults, but it's just like anyone whose only friendships are like online, for example. Right. I think you obviously, you know, online friends are real friends. I also think at the same time, if all of your friends are only online, you do miss a lot of, you know, real life social interaction that helps you teach you social cues in real life when you're around other people that don't exist on Discord. I've also hired people that I've never met to work on my stuff. And I've had like the full range of employees had somewhere it's like, because most of the time when I hire people, I'm a YouTube, so I'm fucking lax. I'm like, I don't care what you do, just get the work done. Yeah. You can work whatever you want. You can work as little as you want as long as the thing gets done generally. And I've had people who then take that and they're like amazing. They'll do like do all the stuff that needs to get done. And then they, I don't know if they want to go drinking or party or, you know, it's not serious. But then I have a lot of people who have fully taken advantage of that and just not done anything. Yeah. Because they, you know, and so it's like, it is a frustrating balance sometimes. And I'm not really a boss at nor do I have time to be a boss. It's like, I'm not going to micromanage you. And if you can't work well in that environment where I'm like, hey, help me out, then it's tough. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it is frustrating. Yeah. It is very, it's, it is very multifaceted. And I feel again, maybe it might also come down to the actual person as well and how, and if they even see that kind of office culture and, you know, in person work culture as something that is beneficial to them. But yeah, I think, I think it is important to at least experience a little bit of it, no matter who you are. Well, that's about it for us slash unpopular opinions. Let us know if, yeah, I mean, a lot of these were not really unpopular opinions. Well, apparently we have some unpopular opinions. Yeah. Is that, is this an us issue? I don't know. I think some of these opinions had like something going for them, but just the way they worded it was like just dog shit or false and inflammatory. But reading some of them, I'm like, okay, okay, you click baits with me, but I feel like in a little bit, I feel that's also most unpopular. That's true. That's true. I think that's what makes them unpopular. It's like you had a point. You just, the execution was off. So yeah, let us know in the comments if you agree or disagree with anything we said. And yeah, look at all these patrons though. You know what the, you know what a popular opinion is joining us over on our page because it not only doesn't support the show, but every single week you guys get to check out, weekly exclusive patron only content. And we have a brand new one that you guys can go check out right after this one. We don't play clip of that. But hey, if you want to check that out and support the show in the process, head on over to patreon.com slash trash tastes. 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