Obeying God When It Doesn’t Make Sense Yet | Sadie Robertson Huff | Maisey Redman | Emily Beaney

We have some London girls here. Hello. Maisie, who you guys know, and Emily, welcome to the podcast. Hi, thanks for having us. I'm so excited. This is such a lovely way to end our trip. I know, truly. I mean, just for context, y'all, we were sitting on my back porch the other day chatting. It's such an amazing chat. Then a bee almost took us out and Emily's allergic to bees. Which I didn't know at the time. Which you didn't even mention. You were so low-key about that. Well, yeah. Once I got stung, I had a welly on. A welly boot. Sorry, a welly boot. It's like a walking boot. Yeah, like your welly boot. It started already. What you wear when you're in, when it's raining. But I was wearing one at a Christian conference and a bee went in my boot, stung it, stung me, and then my leg blew up and then they had to cut the boot off me. No. Are you kidding me? I just swell up. Are you really weird chill? Because I was like, we should go inside because there's a bee. I'm actually so chill around bees. Because I remember someone telling me, you just have to be still. So I just sit still because I'm like, I would rather you just float around, give me some attention and then leave than sting me. Give me some attention. Hey. This is one of the best things about travelling and doing life with Emily is that there's never a dull moment. She's the best storyteller. There's always a story, like a bee got in my welly and that makes no sense to me. Okay. What is really funny about this is that so there were some other girls from London here who I adore. We had coffee together too. And you know, it's really funny because we speak English, but there is a lot of differences and things that we say. One of the things that they were saying, which I learned from you was, which I'm going to touch it. Chicky snog snoggy. No, that is the one. Yeah. What was it? Chicky snog. A cheeky snog. Everyone thought it was perfect. That is the one thing to yourself. What do you think a cheeky snog is? Okay. Now share the results. This feels naughty to say. It's just like a, I feel this feels naughty. It's just like a kiss, a kiss. A kiss that someone maybe you shouldn't. A kiss when you're in a committed relationship. Well, what was so funny is our friend was telling us this and she was telling it to my friends, Sarah Grace, St. Lanie are there. Yeah. They didn't know what this was. So she was in the middle of telling us about how her and her boyfriends are dating. And she was like, and there was a cheeky snog in the church and we thought she meant like, everyone thought she meant there was someone in there who was like, there's someone in their church who was rude to them. Like, like there was someone who was like snobby. That was a cheeky snog. Like she was cheeky and snobby. And then I was like, that doesn't mean that they were kissing in the church. And it was just funny. And then she was like, I fancied a few boys before him. Like I'm fancy. I'm fancied. I wish we said something like that. We're like crushes fancies. Yeah. And then she kept saying like that things were lovely, but it would be like something very chill. And I love that. I kept saying, oh my golly. And everyone at comments to go, oh golly. I always say, oh my golly instead of, oh my gosh. I love it. We're going to pick up on some of these things. And we might need some pause and define what that is along the way. But yes, everyone in America obviously loves the British accent. So people are already just tuned into this podcast and loving everything we're talking about. But tell us, like you guys are living in London, which is such a dream, such a dream destination, one of my favorite places that we get to travel to. So tell us what is a typical day in London for you guys look like? Well, Macy's is crazy because you actually walk past Buckingham Palace every day on her way to work. Well, yes. The king lives. I know. I just moved back to England. So I've been living in America for such a long time. And I, it's so interesting because I would have never thought that my next move to England, I would be in the center of London. I work in the center of London right now. So I was just praying that in the right timing I'd get to come back. But now I am literally in the center walking past the palace every day. Wow. So I'm, I, my every day is where people travel from across the world to come and see. Wow. And right outside of where the office is that I work, you walk down the street and you can stand on this golden plaque and it signifies the center of the city. So I can see Trafalgar Square or like all of, all of the places that tourists would go. So my day to day life, you just can't make it up. It's like this extraordinary daily, just on my lunch break, just go and walk to the palace or watch the changing of the guards, which on a Wednesday and you can go see all the, all the guards, the Kings guards. Wow. It's so cool. Yeah. We're going to circle back to that later because you told me a bit about just how God even has been speaking to you about being in the center of London because even though it's so many people's dreams live in London, it's such a huge move for you, which is really hard. Any transition, any move for anyone is tough. And so just what God's been speaking. So we'll circle back and like tell us a little bit about what your days look like. My days, well, I do social media full time. So my days are a lot of going out with girls in London, getting brunches, taking pictures out on the streets. It's like the classic, like I do like fashion stuff. So we stand on a street awkwardly and take photos of our outfits, which is like, oh, that is like imagine telling someone from like Joseph's era, like the Egyptians, imagine telling an Egyptian girls stand on the street and they take pictures or like a Victorian child, like, and they stand on the street, they take a picture, they post it. And then like that's their job. They're like up a chimney sweeping and I'm like, well, my job is my take pictures of my clothes. Like how would they react? I would love to one day go back and tell them. That really is actually funny to think about. I always think about that with people in the Bible. I mean, this is very convicting, but I think about that if Paul was like learning about social media and he was like, he'd be like, oh, so you have access to share the message of Jesus to this many people at any time you want by just pressing the button where we're at the hub, y'all were at the hub and dad's home message about how much Paul moved and how he went here and he went there and then he was sailing here, like how much he had to physically get up and go to get the message and we like have access. It really is crazy, but you are sharing the gospel. You are merging faith and fashion in a way that not many people are doing and it's really epic. So I want to dive into all that, but you guys, one thing about London that's pretty cool, you guys walk like most everywhere. Everywhere. It's been so weird driving here. It's that is interesting in America. This has been, I don't want to speak in to generalize, but most times if you go on a walk, you get in the car and you drive somewhere to walk and in England, I would just walk to the station, what to work, what to go get lunch and I check my phone. I've done 10,000 steps. You just don't even think about it. It's completely different culture. Work to get 10,000 steps here. You see so many talks and the girls like how I keep my physique 10,000 steps a day. Come down to the beach with me and I'm like, what do you mean? You have to go down to like, what do you mean you're making it happen? I'm like, do you not just do it? Like, is that just not happening? And they're like, I drive to the gym and then I go down to the beach. I do my 10,000 steps to Pilates. I'm like, go, just walk to the gym. It's very good. Which by the way, Maisie got us a Paddington book and I was reading it to Honey and Honey didn't want me to read it like Maisie, which was a challenge. I think I did pretty good. But then she she upped the challenge and said now read it like Emily. And so I got my accent a little bit more uppity and I crushed it and she was actually like, well, it was pretty good. So I'm working on my accent as well. I'm super excited about it. But no, I love London. I love the culture. I love the walking everywhere. One thing that is funny too about you guys that's different than Americans is when we go on a walk, we wear like athletic clothes. You'll never wear athletic clothes. You always look cute. Yeah, we were like, I'd wear what I wore every day. If I'm going on a hike, like I'm going up the mountain, I'm going to wear my salamones and I'm going to wear my like an octerics. But if I'm going on or just a walk, that's just a normal day. I love it. Yes, interesting. When I was in London, I was very inspired by like most people wear cute outfits and piece it all together fun. And I'm like, okay, wow, I can take some of this back to America. This is a good thing. So anyways, I just love your culture. I love everything about it. I'm super glad y'all are here to dive into all of this. I remember whenever we started low and I had all the what ifs. What if I fail? What if it isn't where I need to be? And looking back, I can see so clearly that God had his hand in the whole thing. Starting something new is exciting, but it's also very scary. And that's why I'm thankful for Shopify. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the US from massive brands to tiny startups. Team Low starts on Shopify every single day for managing inventory and staying on top of orders. It just works. 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And what was God doing in your heart to call you all the way back to London while your family's here? Yes. So it's been a long journey. And I never really knew when people said, where's home for you? I'm sure lots of girls can relate to this. Their dad might be in the military or they've had parents who have had to move around a lot. Maybe they've grown up in a missionary family. You sort of grew up and you're like, where's home for me? When people ask me, where's home to you? I would sit and think, I actually don't know. I am British. That's my citizenship, but I've lived so much of my life in America. So never quite knew where am I from? Where do I belong? Where do I see my life going? If I get married one day, where do I see myself settling down? So when I was in university in Chicago, these are questions I was asking, where do I see myself going? Where do I want to lay down roots? Because I've had this privileged problem of getting to live in five different states and so many places, three countries. But yeah, actually there's a certain point where you think, I want to lay down a root somewhere. I want to belong somewhere. And someone told me that you bear a certain kind of fruit when you're rooted somewhere. So it's not a bad thing to be called lots of different places, but there's a certain fruit. Yes, when you can be known by a community and you walk with them and you can put roots down. So I remember being in college, you know, woke up one morning and there was a census that came out in England and the headline read Christianity is now the minority faith in England. And I did not expect to have this reaction, but I burst out crying, which completely surprised me because before I had moved to America, when I went to boarding school, high school in England, I was the girl, I went to a Hindu festival and I completely rejected my faith. I was, I genuinely in my mind was thinking, how am I going to keep relationship with people because I'm not going to be a Christian. I decided that I was going to completely change my life. And so what contrast from living in England, literally going into a gathering of another faith and other gods to then sitting, reading that headline and being grieved that the Christianity was now the minority faith. And even here, I wrote down some statistics. So in 2001, when I was one years old, were you one as well? No, I was zero. Oh, that's so cute. So in 2001, 71.7% of the population identified as Christian. Wow. In 2011, in, so this is in England. Wow. In 2011, 59.3% identified as Christian. In 2021, 46.2% of the UK population identified as Christian. Wow. And the decrease of that, so that in 2021, the decrease, if you look at the age demographic, it's the younger generations who are deciding I don't identify as a Christian or I don't identify with any faith. And so, you know, I don't think I understood then, but that visceral response of crying, but like a week, I could not stop crying. I almost had this moment, which I now know was the Holy Spirit. I believe it was this whisper inside of me of this is, you know, you have to follow the tears, follow the tears. If you're, if you're reading something about an injustice or you're, you're, you're reading about a problem and it sparks emotion and you follow that. Don't ignore that. Follow the tears. And so for me, it was a really simple, but long process of following the tears. And then I graduated university and I was in a prayer room the, and that night, which is so interesting now, I'm just remembering this, that night was the night that our friendship started. Wow. So we had met very briefly, I think before, but that was really the night our friendship started. We were in the prayer room and we had this conversation about England and faith. And I remember thinking, I'd love to be friends with this girl. I live in America, but I hope we get to keep in contact. So crazy actually now she's sitting next to me, but we were sitting in this, yeah, in this prayer room and this girl was doing a drawing at the front. She's doing what's called like a prophetic drawing. Sometimes in church, you said people would do a painting or something. And so she was doing this drawing and it wasn't paying that much attention. But then at the end of the, at the end of the night, she, I saw that it was a windmill. And I thought, that's so funny because I was just visiting England for that for a little bit of the summer. When I landed, I went straight to a windmill and my godfather said to me, Maisie, God's going to bring you home to England one day. Wow. And then I'm in this prayer room and this girl's doing a windmill and I thought, that's so interesting. So I just, I walked up to it and I was looking at it and the girl came up to me and she said, is this, does this resonate? And I said, well, I don't know if it resonates, but I just landed and went to a windmill. So I thought, this is really cool. And she said, actually, I want you to know that God's been highlighting you to me the whole worship night. He wants you to know, she didn't know anything about me. She says, she wants you to know the winds are changing and God is going to bring you home. She didn't know I lived in America. And so she says this to me and she says, but you're going to have to give up control because you're holding on to the control. You want to know how it's going to be. You want to know the timing. This is in 2023. Wow. And I'm not sure if you can tell, but God's got the timing. You need to trust him and it's going to be something you feel, yeah. And the job that God's going to invite you into, you're going to feel so unqualified. It's going to be so different from what you're doing. And for context, I was working with children doing homeschooling, tutoring, nannying and fast forward now. It's a very long story, but fast forward now. It was a long time of waiting. So many doors closing. There was a sudden moment where so quickly the doors opened and it was time to come home. And there's a verse that says the doors in which God opens, no man can shut. And the doors that God shuts, no man can open. And I felt that way when, when he opened the door and it was time to come back. I actually was loving my life in California. I loved my church. I finally found the right friends. I could just hit this sweet spot. I love my job, but it was time to come home. The winds were changing and I got invited to do, I actually interviewed and was able to do a job that was exactly that the word said so different to what I thought I would do. I felt so unqualified, but God spoke it. And every day since then he's qualified me, qualified me for what I needed for every single day. So different to what I was doing before. And I think just to wrap it up, I think I would love to read this. If this is okay. So there's an MP. So he's a member of, of parliament. His name's Danny Kruger and he is an incredible man of faith. So in England it is not, it's not a badge of honor and it's not popular to be a Christian. If you say you're a Christian, you mean it. If you go to church, I think you want to be there. It's not that culture where I just go because it's culture. I think just my perspective is it is costly to be seen as a Christian in England. When I was there, I felt that everybody who went to church was on fire, like sold out because if statistics are 46.2% and it's a minority, you're not going because it's cool. You're not going because it's just what you do on a Sunday. You're going, it comes with the cost and you're going because you really have encountered the Lord. And that's what it seemed like. So I loved church culture there because it was smaller than the churches here, but it was on fire. It was very exciting. It was very exciting, but it didn't mean to interrupt you. I just experienced that when we were there. No, but that's good because we've grown up in England. So to hear your perspective, I mean, that's so encouraging. That's what you picked up on because we feel that too. It was incredible. It's like Sunday service was one of my favorite ever because it actually felt like the church and looked like the church you'd see in Acts. Like there was space for prayer, space for if the Lord was speaking a word, just reading of the scripture after the sermon was done. It was just so like what the church should look like in my opinion, because it just, it looked a lot like Acts, you know, and I feel like our churches should model what the early church, you know, launched and began to prayer scripture words, space for God to actually move. It wasn't like as programmed as we experience here and everyone there just, you could tell they went because they wanted to be there. So that was very refreshing. It was very refreshing. We were teary-eyed. It was beautiful. It's beautiful. What was your quote, Mays? Oh, so it's by Danny Kruger. And if anyone's actually interested, as I'm reading this, if anyone's interested, you can actually go into YouTube and put in Danny Kruger a message about Christianity and culture. And it's a beautiful message. It's even if you're not from England, it will speak straight to the heart of where you are in your town and where your school, I think it speaks to everybody. But so he delivers this message in the House of Commons, which if you don't know, this is a group of people who are members of parliament, who are serving the UK government and they act as voices for people in different parts of the country. And they speak about different issues trying to create solution. And so he's basically Danny Kruger's coming into the House of Commons and he is talking about the issue of Christianity in culture. And that England is historically a British, is a Christian country founded on Christian values. And England has created some of the most incredible men and women of the faith, like William Wilberforce, who led the movement of the evolution of the slave trade. And some of the hymns that we sing all around the world have come from British people who have been hymn writers. And so there's such a rich culture of faith in England that is, it's like a deep, deep well of faith. And at this point right now in history, we're seeing in England that there's a separation of the church and state. If we look back historically, every time that's happened, there's been total chaos. And so he's basically saying, this is why we should not separate the church and the state. Here's why it's not a good idea. But this is basically a call for a new restoration and for the UK to return to its Christian values. And so he says, this is a quote, he says, a wind is blowing, a storm is coming. And when it hits, we are going to learn if our house is built on the rock or sand. The strong gods are back. And we have to choose which God to worship. I suggest we worship the God who came in weakest form, Jesus Christ. And even what he says in that message too, he says, God is a jealous God. So he's not even just saying, our country should be built on Christian values. We should serve the community. He's saying, actually, this country should be built on Christ, not just the values. And he speaks, and just lastly, just to wrap up, so I'm talking about ages, but he speaks about these two things. He says, thin religion and thick religion. So thin religion is a country built on just the values and just trying to do the right thing. And, you know, just going to church once a week, that's thin, that's brittle. It breaks when the winds come and the storm comes. That breaks, doesn't it? But the thick religion he's saying is people who genuinely believe that Jesus, he died on the cross, he was beaten, he was marred beyond human resemblance. He died on the cross for our sins, because we're all sinners and we couldn't do it by ourselves. He died on the cross, he was buried and he rose again. And in his resurrection, we have eternal life and hope. And so you've got these people now, we're living in a time where they're preaching the gospel in the House of Commons and they're bullied for it and teased for it and mocked. But it's like these seeds are being sown and so when the storm comes, I just believe there's going to be fruit in our country. We're going to see so much fruit because of these people who are so faithful like Danny Kruger. So great, Maisie. There's so many things I want to say about what you just said, but one thing I want to shout out and just make it personal to those who are listening. You know, a country is made up of individual people, right? And so it's going to be what the people bring. And I think so many times we think, oh, if our government would do something about that, if someone would do something about that, I wish some crazy revival would break out. But it starts with you. Revival starts with you. You're a part of the change. And so you have to ask yourself, do I have thin faith? Do I have thick faith? So everyone has to look at their life and say, nothing's going to change until my foundation is Christ. You know, until I catch fire, until I repent and come to the Lord. And I think one thing that I love about you so much is how deeply personal you take what's happening in the world around you. Like following the tears, it's that prayer, like break my heart for what breaks your resort. And when you break my heart for it, I'm actually going to let go and be a part of the change. And I love how you said, like I went back home and all of this is attached to your going back home because you're realizing there's a problem. There's a lack of faith. I'm a believer. I'm on fire. I want to go be a part of the change and the work that you do, not everybody knows what you do, but you are in that change. And I think everyone has to realize like they have to take the gospel personally. You have to take your relationship with God personally. You have to take the things that are going on in the world, the darkness personally and realize that it's your job to respond. And I think too many people just go, hope somebody does that. But it makes me think of Nehemiah. You make me think of Nehemiah because his heart broke for what broke his alerts. He was like the weeping prophet. He would cry about what was happening to Jerusalem. And he was a cup bearer of the king. Like not the guy you would have thought was about to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem. But yeah, his heart broke for it and he was positioned beside the king. And so what did he do? He used what he had, where he had it, his influence. And he began to, you know, talk to the king about the problems going on in Jerusalem. And then he was able to go back and rebuild the walls, but he didn't do it himself. Like there was an army of individual people who also took on the personal responsibility to use their gifting to grow the kingdom. And I just, that story makes me think so much of both of you, but particularly with what you just shared, you going back. And I love that you said it went back home because you started it by saying, I don't know what home is, but like, you know, that's home. And I think that's really cool too, because home is, I was thinking about this the other day when I was talking about being in London. And I said, and then we went back home. And I was like, I mean to the hotel, because for me, I've taught our girls this since we travel a lot. I always tell them like home is wherever we are. So like, if we're together, we're home, you know, and I feel that I feel such a sense of home when we're together. And so it's sweet because I'm like, oh, we went back home. It doesn't matter where we're staying. Like, and I know this is home. Obviously we're planted in Louisiana. We're so grateful for that. We have our home here. But also I want our girls to feel that like safety of like wherever we go, like there's a sense of home. And I think home is where you're called to be at that time, you know, if you're called to be in London at that time, even if your family and your house is here, that's home right now. If we're called to be in London for two weeks, which is such a small amount of time. Like, let's make this feel as much like home as we can. And it's because this is where we're called to be right here right now. And so just to encourage those who are listening, you know, you might feel like, man, I want to feel that sense of home. I want to feel that sense of grounding. And I think there are places obviously that you have that you get to plant roots. But if you're not in that season yet where you can't establish roots, I do think you can create an environment of home to feel, you know, confident in where God's placed you. Emily, I want to talk to you because when we were in London, we get to have lunch and what is so cool. The way we met is I needed a babysitter for a honey and haven because I wanted them to feel like home. I wanted them to have fun while I was doing work. And so I was like, man, it would just be so great if someone could come watch them and make it fun and Maisie recommended you. And you were like, well, I do social media full time now. So I have time, free time. And whenever I did a Zoom call with you, you were like so cute. You were wearing this sweatshirt. It was like, I love Jesus. I can't remember what it was. Something like that. They're cute little blouse over it. And you were just like asking me if they knew about these toys in London. All this stuff. I was like, oh, she is going to make this so fun. And you did. You blew me away. I was like taking videos of all of the little things that you created for them, the space you created. So your heart is just so beautiful. But I was so thankful we got to have lunch for a bit. And you were telling me that there's not many influencers in London who are sharing their faith. And you were actually kind of telling me about what a typical influencer in London looks like. I want you to speak to that because here in America, there's a lot of influencers who are Christians and sharing their faith. Like that's a very popular thing, which is amazing and so great. But people like, I want you to wrap your mind around what you're doing. Here it's common. There it is not common. So talk about how God began to call you into that and what culture it looks like in that area. Honestly, I did not want to really do that whole life. I wanted to be a farmer growing up. I can milk cows. I can shear sheep. I would go and like work on farms up north in Lancashire in England, which is like up north. And I would spend my half terms going and doing work experience on farms. And my dream, I remember I used to go out onto fields and I would feel like David and I would pray out like, Lord, would I end up in these fields? Would this be where you bring me to? And I remember someone actually give me a word when I was like around 15, which was when my heart was for farming. And she was like, I see you as a David. And she was like, but David was the shepherd, but he was actually then brought out to be a king and yet to influence people. And I remember being like, that is not my thing. I grew up with, Mathew and I talk about this. I didn't have friends growing up and we didn't really have good friends. I was bullied all the way through school. I used to wear wellies to school, those rain boots, because I wanted to be a farmer so bad. I would do gardening in my lunch breaks at school because I wanted to be outside so bad. I was just like that weird kid that everyone thought was really strange and like very, very uncool. And so when I remember someone saying to me like, I see you as a David. Yes, you're in the fields right now, but he's going to bring you out into leading. I was like, that's not for me. And I actually said, I really love, I remember saying like something along the lines of like, I really love that you speak to people like that, but I actually don't think that word's for me. And I got given that word at nearly every, like all the time I would be at a church conference or I'd be at church or I'd be at a youth group and someone would say, I see like leadership of your life and I'm a really shy person like with crowds. Like I have the most insane stage fright you've ever met, like of someone you've ever met in your life. Really? That's so surprising. Even like speaking in front of like 15 people, I would like my heart. I'd be like, oh my gosh, like even coming on here, I was like sat and my foot was shaking and I was like, stop that. I can tell she's nervous. I literally shook and I was like, stop shaking your foot. There's only, there's a couple of people in here that made me nervous. And I'm like, every time someone would say to me, I see this leadership calling your life. I'd say that's really kind, but I actually don't think that's for me. And I used to always say to people like, oh, people always give the same words to everyone. They always say you're going to be a leader. And my friends would be like, I didn't get that word. And I'm like, no, no, they'll give it to you. Every Christian, I always call you a butterfly that's going to bloom. You're a flower that's in the field that the Lord sees. You're a butterfly that's going to bloom. And you're a leader. Like I feel like those are the three things that people would say. And so then I just would reject it, reject it, reject it, reject it. And then I was working at a jewellery stand actually for my friend, Annika. She's an amazing company called Recognize. And in it, their company, the whole point is they recognize people. And she said to me, Emily, this is so weird, but I think you're going to influence so many people with your life. And I remember being like, well, that's, that's a different way of saying it. Influence for those people. And I really respected her. And I looked at her as like, she's this amazing businesswoman who started a company that, you know, gives back to people with like what they do with their charity work. And I was like, wow, you're like an amazing woman of God. And you're telling me I'm going to influence people like, that's really big. I remember being like, oh, thanks, Annika. Like people have always said that I'm going to do leadership stuff, but that scares me. And she was like, well, you know, pray about it. Like I think you are going to influence people. And I'm still wanting to be a farmer. So I'm like, in the fields, I'm going to influence others. And then I actually had deleted Instagram because I felt it was all fake. And so, you know, I did the cool kid thing and I deleted it. I was like, goodbye. I was like 19. I was like, goodbye, Instagram. And then a few years later, I felt, well, a bit later, I felt the Lord be like, in worship, I just kept hearing, yeah, get Instagram. And like, you know, people always say, measure up what the Lord's saying to you based on what the Bible says and like how he speaks in the Bible. And like in the, in the Bible, it does not tell you seek validation, seek, seek followers, seek, da, da, da. So I was like, this doesn't seem like the Lord. I'm just, this is my head. I'm just, I want an excuse to download it and see what everyone's up to. And I just literally, every worship time I'd hear it and I'd be like, I think I have to get Instagram back. And I remember I downloaded Instagram and I put the most cringe thing up. I took a photo of me holding thousands of field and I literally posted the thing being like, Jesus loves you. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, that's it. That's what I'm meant to be doing. And then I just felt from the Lord be like, I want you to post joyful, fun things for your friends and family. And I was like, okay, you know, he's not telling me to try and be an influencer and puff up my lips and, you know, move to LA, this sounds fine. So I'd literally start posting for a while. Just literally, if you scroll down there, literally just videos of me being like, here's my outfit and like, here's what I'm doing. And then it came to the February two years ago and I felt the Lord say, I want you to post every day till June. And I'm like, what? My friends and family are going to think I'm a freak. Like, why would they want, no one wants to see me on there for you each every day. I do, whatever. And then it was funny because the same girl, Annika, so it gets to June. I've been posting every day. Nothing's happened. No followers. And Annika says to me, Emily, I feel like in the next few weeks, you're going to be leading thousands of people. And I was like, what? And I'm thinking, oh no, someone's going to make me go on stage for something. So because I'm thinking leading. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm going to have to go on stage. I'm so freaked out. I remember I had this crazy, like for genuinely two weeks, it was like my heart would not stop beating for two weeks. Because she said in the next few two weeks, I remember I looked up online, what events are happening and like, avoid, avoid every church setting possible. Like, I'm not going, I'm not being, oh no one's pulling me off on stage. I'm going to get up there. And then it was funny because the next day at church, the Lord, I felt the Lord give me this idea for a video, which is, so far I've been making very mediocre. Not videos you probably would follow, but friends and family, pretty fun. But this felt like an executed video. Like it was, it was where I would put one outfit on and then I turn it into four outfits. I was like, that's a planned video. That's like something I have to set up and think about. And I was like, okay. And I really felt the Lord say it. And I was like, but I was too overcome by then my nerves for what was going on over here, this word that I was like, no, it didn't even think about it. So I forgot about doing the video for about two weeks. And then I was in worship at church. I felt the Lord give me the idea again. I went, oh, I forgot about the idea. So I go home and I film the video and the next day I post it. The next day is two week mark and I wake up and I have 20,000 followers. And I remember I literally woke up and I had chills. And I went, oh, I'm going to lead thousands of people. I've just led thousands of people on social media. And like it was like crazy because he's he's planned this. And I remember I would get, I got a few DMs being like, I'm so glad you've got loads of content for me to like store and stuff. And I was like, he told me to post every day till June. And it was like, oh, he like planned this whole thing out. Like he knew that girls would want to stalk me and have stuff to follow. And they would want to like see more outfits. And it was like, he teased things up perfectly. And like you said, any door he opens, no man can shut any, any plan he's got, no man can put away. And like he had a plan for me to lead thousands and not a way that he knew. He obviously knew that I would be too scared to get up on a stage and talk to these girls. But he knew that I'd be totally fine because in my head, it's just a number. It's like posting a video and numbers see it. But actually those are the individual girls. I don't get stage fright when I post on Instagram. And he knew that. And by the end of that summer, it was my full-time job and it was crazy. It's like what the Lord can do through one yes. And like, even though you might be scared or like whatever, I was scared thinking about the word that someone had given me. But actually he was doing something completely different. And I made an assumption of God that he was going to do one thing. And he was like, I'm not over that. I'm all the way over here doing something that I know that you can do. I've prepared you and I've made you confident for this mission. And it's crazy because then a few months later, I was like at a church event. And I was like, they said on stage, they said, whatever you're doing in your job, you should be leading people to Jesus. And I was like, this is now my new job. And like you were saying, it's very different that influences space in London. I'd been doing it for a few weeks then, I mean months then. And that's like you go to a lot of events in London. Like there's always events and you know, these events, there's lots of drinking. Here's everything we can give you like, oh, you want the bag that was, you have the bag. You want a new jumper, you have this jumper. They like want to impress you. Like every brand wants you to have everything you want so that you might post a story about them so that you might give them a little bit of, you know, encouragement. Like, oh guys, I love this brand. And so I was going to events every single day, like, and you'd show up and everyone is absolutely obliterated drunk. Like everyone is being given everything they want. Like they're, you get given a full outfit of clothes and so that in your stories, you're wearing the brand. You get given a drink the minute you walk in, there's food. And then everyone wants to take your picture and here's a, and you almost for a minute touch like, like it's like a God, like you feel suddenly like, I'm so important. I'm so valuable. These people think I'm, I'm so worthy of their attention. And whenever I read about in the Old Testament, when they look up at the mountains and they would say, you know, in the summer, it says, look up in the mountains. Where does my help come from? He was saying that because when he looked up in the mountains, every mountain had a temple to a different God. And so he was looking up going, I look up to these mountains. I can't get help from these mountains. These gods are fake. These are idols that I look up to. My help comes from the Lord. And I feel like with Instagram, we have the same thing. I look out into my Instagram profile. Where does my help come from? And I felt the Lord say, when I was at church and they were saying, you should be, you know, your, your job where you're working. You should be bringing people to Jesus, the people you're working with. And I was like, I don't have anyone I work with. I work in my room and I post an outfit video. How do I, how do I tell these colleagues of mine who essentially, everyone who follows me is essentially my boss. They've all given me a job. They've given me a platform. And how do I tell them about Jesus? And so I was like praying about this. And then the Lord gave me the idea of doing, show people what it's like inside a church building, but in your niche and my niche is fashion. So I started doing these, what people wear to church videos, what people were wearing at Christian festivals, what people, I did what people wear at LO sister conference. Like, you know, I, I for a few years now I've been doing what people wear at church videos. And it's become a ministry for me, like a ministry that I would never have ever, when I was in the fields, picking up lambs to give them milk. Never did I think I would be filming what people wear to church videos. I used to wear overalls covered in sheet muck. Like I used to milk cows and they're above you and you have to wear a waterproof jacket in case they poo on your head. Like it is, I've gone from that being a bullied girl who no one in school thought was cool. I was bullied so bad for being the weird kid at school to being the person that people follow and people look to for advice and, and fashion. Like how have I gone from raincoat with poo on to, to wearing cool clothes that people, people call me cool and I'm like shaking in my boots like, no, I'm the bullied girl. Like, but only the Lord can take that girl and make her the person that leads people. Wow. And that's so, the Lord though, it's so what you see in the Bible. It's David. It's literally David's story. And I was spoken over you so many times. There is so many aspects of your story that you can learn from and pick up on it from the obedience. I mean, I think about you doing that for six months every single day and you had to have felt embarrassed. It was so embarrassing. Yeah, but the Lord said do it and you did it. And I can just think of so many girls who have started something thinking the Lord said it and then got discouraged month three going, well, this isn't working. Why am I doing this? Nobody likes it. This is weird stops. And then misses out on like the whole point, you know, like, I don't want to put pressure on people to say, oh, you're going to mess it up. I don't think that God works like that. God is so kind, so gracious. If you messed up in the past, you didn't obey in the past, get back on today. Like say yes. Ask the Lord to speak to you again. He, you haven't messed up the path through your life. So don't hear that. But how beautiful when you are obedient and at that six month mark, that two week mark, you post that video not doing it because you thought it was going to get thousands of views doing it because the Lord said to do it. It's just gold side. And then everyone's looking back at all your past posts with those didn't go to waste. That wasn't a wasted time. That's what it looks like when God's working in those waiting seasons of your life. And so much of that story is just so amazing. And I think about two, even from the start, you said something that really want to call up because you're telling me as a Christian, the Lord calling you social media and you being like, God doesn't call me, you know, to be validated. Like God doesn't put in the Bible. And I think I really do think that the enemy uses kind of those voices and people's life to stay away from social media because the enemy can use it like that. Like it can be such a dark place. If your heart's not pure, it can be for validation. It can certainly be that. But even in David's story from the start, he says, man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart. He says to Solomon, who's going to look for the king. And I think about that where yeah, man might have their idea. They might misunderstand. They might do whatever. But God's looking at the heart. And although God does not say you should have Instagram, Jesus does say you're the light of the world, you know, not to hide your light, but to actually let it shine. And I love even the verse for Paul. This has been one for me that I've taken and use it in the context of social media. It's whenever he says, imitate me as I imitate Christ. Like it's not, don't look at me as actually no, I invite you to look at my life as I imitate Christ. And I think if you feel confident that you're walking in a life of obedience, life of Christ and willing to say when you're not willing to repent and go, oh, yeah, I messed it up. You know, and I've had to do that on social media a lot of times. That welcomes people into what it looks like to follow Christ. I think that too many people steer away from that because they're afraid of what people are going to think of them. But it's like, no, like Christians need to be in that space. And I think that I actually do think the Lord calls us to that. And there's so many places in the Bible. Again, if that's your thing, you know, if that is what he's calling you to. And I love how you said, like, I use my little niche of fashion and then I do that in the church. And that's the point. That's the Nehemiah story. It's use what you have. I love reading the story of Nehemiah because it's all these people coming together with their gifting and they do something incredible together, you know. And I, I, I, sorry to interrupt. No, please. I, I, I thank God. I mean this. I thank the Lord that Emily and I were not the cool girls growing up because that was God's providence. That was actually was his mercy to us. That was his kindness. That was his kindness. Because I think our history with God is so important. And I, and if there's any girls right now listening, think I, I'm not the cool girl. I'll never be the cool girl. That's actually a gift in your life. That's the greatest gift. That's the greatest gift. And I think out of, out of that place, you, your whole life, you'll realize like, I pray that our whole lives, Emily and I will realize and know it's the things that happen. The place as God invites us to go. It isn't because we're the cool girl. Is it because of what we've done or who we are? It's literally the grace of God. He's the one opening the door. And we, we, Emily and I were talking earlier, we weren't made to romanticize our lives. That's a lie. And so we're meant to lay them down. So even, even if, you know, girls who are called to what Emily is doing and how Emily does what she's doing, I see someone who's not romanticizing their life. She's laying it down. She's always saying, how can I use this for the glory of God? If God's given this to me, how, how can I use it for his glory and but not even just doing things for him, but with him. And, you know, being, being lonely and being bullied, you learn, you learn how to, the scriptures say, God, you're my, he's my hiding place, hiding place, you're a refuge. And if you live out of that place, you're, you're never, God's never going to let your feet stumble. There, there he will have hard days. His promise, he will not let you stumble. He won't let you fall. And those, those days actually make you, they make you who you are and they develop your relationship with the Lord. I think about my freshman, you know, I think it was going to sophomore year of high school. All my friends try not for cheerleader and I was like, okay, I'll try not to be a cheerleader too. So we could all hang out. It'd be so fun. Guess who the only person who didn't make it was me. And it was actually so brutal because only like 33 girls tried out. I still remember 28 made it. I was like one of the five that did not make it. I could have been a sub. They could have tapped me in. They never did. They never call it. It's fine. But what was, what was actually really so hard. It actually really was very hard and embarrassing because, you know, the whole school knows who makes cheerleader and who does it. And I remember that one of the hardest parts though was whenever they all got to go to cheer camp. It's like in Florida and it's like all my best friends, but I didn't get to go because I didn't make the team. And you know what's so interesting is like God was teaching me so much during that time. Like I really had to like, like really work that out with him. And what was cool was I was sitting at home and I felt like the Lord put on my heart to encourage them because they were talking about how hard cheer camp was and everything. And of course I'm like wishing I was there. I was like, okay, what can I do to like be a part of this? And so every day I made funny videos just myself. They were so embarrassing. Now looking back, I don't even know it's funny, but the Lord put on my heart. I wouldn't have known it was a Lord at the time though, but it was. And so I recorded myself doing funny videos and I would send them a video a day at cheer camp to like make them laugh. And now like at 28 years old, making cheerleaders is not a big deal to me, right? But God working in me and like who I was and what I could bring to the table and what, you know, I could do with something so special. And I think about now, like I'm still making like funny videos to cheer people up, you know, but like cheerleading is not a thing. And so I think like, yeah, God establishes who you are in those moments and teaches you like what's the thing that he put on your heart. And one thing I really love about the story for both of you guys is that when God put a word on your heart to do something, specifically it was social media. You didn't look at social media to teach you how to do it. You weren't going, okay, how do the influencers do it? How do I meet the algorithms requirements? How do I like this is how I'm going to do it because this is how it's been done. You got with the Lord and the Lord said six months post a video every day and the Lord put on your heart. Do a video of you doing four different outfits and that's why when you come to your page, people go, oh, this is unique. This is different. This is original. I want to follow this. Whereas so many people, the reason why trends look the same is because people are not getting with the Lord and saying, God, what do you want me to do? How do I walk this path that you've given me? What does it look like for me to be original in a world, in the world, not of the world. What does it look like for my originality to be the light of the world? And then you get to do something that no one's ever seen before and people gravitate to it. For you going back to London, you could have been like, okay, I'm just going to go. London should do whatever. What's everybody else doing? Lord, what do you have for me in London? How am I going to stay in here even if I don't feel qualified for this job and do it with the best of my ability and the Lord's graced you for it. I just encourage girls who are listening. If God's put a word on your heart, if it's something that everybody does and it's more like social media, if it's being a nurse or if it's being a teacher, whatever it is, ask God, how can my originality come through in this space? Because I'm just going to bless people in so many ways and it's going to show God. It's going to show you how personal God is in your story because I love how you both can look back and go, whoa, that was God. I want to wrap this up, Maisie, by you if you don't mind sharing because I know it has been a hard move, but when you were standing on that golden place at the center point, you didn't realize that was the center point. Can you just share how the Lord, again, because I feel like when you do things that only you and God know and pray about, then when God blesses you back, you know he saw you. You know he heard you and that's when that relationship becomes so personal. So I'd love to end on that story. Oh, be my honor. I think also when I was younger, there's something in us, we always want that confirmation of like, I just want to double check this is you and I think it does talk about this in the Bible, but that we shouldn't chase after those words and confirmations. But when they come, it is so beautiful, you cannot make it up and it's a gift from God. So if you're also in a season where you aren't, no one is giving you a word at church, you don't have that confirmation, don't be discouraged because God's grace is like a river. It's in every single day and he's going to give you the right things to remind you, I'm with you, I'm for you. I've got plans to prosper you, not harm you to give hope in the future. So even as I'm sharing the story and you might you're still waiting on that is I believe it's on its way. And it's so intentional exactly how God knows how he made us, he knows how we receive. And yeah, I just know he's going to encourage you right where you're at. But I when I first got to England, you have a lot of people had a lot of people saying to me, Oh, we can't wait to have you over dinner. I can't wait to invite you back. And then when I moved, it was an interesting time for me because it was almost like crickets. The people who said they were going to invite me over didn't and the people who said they were going to walk with me, they didn't reach out. And so it was a confusing time. It felt really disappointing. And so one of my main prayers was actually with my parents, I prayed with them both that God would bring the right on time people, the right on time people at the right time, not in my timing, but, you know, I had believed that there are people and actually God's got new family for me. I'm so blessed to have a whole family, but God's bringing new people and new families as he's doing a new thing in my life. So I ended up meeting a family at Emily's Emily and I's church called St. Paul's Hammersmith. And if you're ever coming to London, you should definitely come through. But we met a lovely family there who host something called a Shabbat meal, which is a traditional Jewish meal to mark the Sabbath and beginning of the Sabbath. And you sit around the table. It was actually just all people our age. We sat around the table and it's traditional at that table. There's lots of symbolism which remind us of God's promise and what the scriptures say. So you light a candle and you remember that Jesus is the light of the world. And then it's just a few adaptations because we're Christians. Yes. Yes. Sorry. That's a good point to say that it was led by Messianic Jews. So it was all about Jesus. And then we traditionally the husband and the wife, they would bless the people around the table. And so we ended up just blessing each of the person who was next to us. So we were all pretty much, I mean, I didn't know anyone at that table apart from two people. The guy next to me, I'd never met him before. He prayed a blessing over me. I prayed the blessing over the person next to me. And then after he had prayed that blessing, we were eating the meal around this table. And this guy said to me, I had this picture of you. It was so, it was so clear. You were standing in the middle of Trafalgar Square, which is right by where I work. And you were standing on this golden plaque. And if you look up the centre of London geographically, it will take you to this plaque, to this one point. That's the centre of London. And he said, I want to tell you that God's brought you to England for such a time. And he has you in the centre of his will. So remain in the centre of his will, just as you sound. He said, I saw you standing in the centre of London. And that's a reminder that you are in the centre of God's will. And then that was at a point where I had gone for a walk for my lunch break. I was just walking into the bank to set up my card. And I was asking God, you know, I know you brought me here. I don't know fully why, but I know that you have. And I was walking and I just, it was so weird. I just stopped in Trafalgar Square, right at this point, right by this golden plaque. I didn't know at the time it meant the centre of London. I stood at this golden plaque and I looked out and I just started crying. I started crying. God, this is, this was such a big move. And I'll never be able to explain to anyone else what it's like, but know that you know that I miss my family and I feel so out of my depth in so many ways. But I know there's not, I don't have a shadow of a doubt that I'm supposed to be here. I know I'm supposed to be here. And so it was a cement when he said that, oh my word, that would have been so beautiful. If I wouldn't have stood in Trafalgar Square a couple of weeks ago, but because I had, I felt so seen by God. And so that's one of those things where you, you step out of your comfort zone and you're like, actually, I don't feel that faithful right now because I've got lots of questions. That's exactly, that's the God we serve. He allows us to petition to him 70% of the Psalms. It's not just a happy book. 70% are questions and lament. And actually, the more that we talk to God, we were made to do that. We become, we start to become in the center of his will because we're not just trying to do things for him, but we're doing it with him. Actually, my mom says to me, live life in the plural. It's not just Maisie wakes up and she goes to school. Well, Maisie wakes up and she goes to work. It's Maisie wakes up with Jesus. Maisie goes on the Tube with Jesus. Jesus walks Maisie into work and they do it together. And so when he said that to me, it wasn't even just like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to be here. Oh God, it's with us. Emmanuel, he is with us. Doesn't matter where you are, what you're doing, he's with us. Great. Yeah. It's so beautiful. One time a security guard told me, and I love this because he was talking about how he had to go through so many scary things, like as a security guard and as a police officer, like he would have to run into the most dangerous places. And he told me one thing that changed his life was he read this book and it said, the safest place you can be is in the center of God's will. And it gave him so much peace because he realized even if I'm in dangerous places, if I'm in the center of God's will for my life, it's the safest place I can be. And that has blessed me so much over the years, like just going to different places and doing different things with anxiety of like, the safest place I can be is in the center of God's will. I think not only the safest place, but like the most important place, like even if you're in the six months of doing something that no one's watching, you know, or if you're moving somewhere and you haven't felt that confirmation as far as like, nothing's blown you away yet. You're not getting invited. When you're in those spaces, if you know you're in the center of God's will, then you have peace in it. You know, it's like, I might not feel great about it right now. It might not feel good, but I have like this deep confidence that this is like God is with me. And it changes everything. You guys are so incredible. I'm so blessed by y'all's friendship and sisterhood. I'm like, only God. You're so sisters. You know, you'd be from all over the world, but originally London and you'd be from London, me, from Louisiana, and we all have like this commonality in Christ. It's so beautiful. We're not just soul sisters. Like it's not like a, oh, we have our sweet, gale moments, but I say to Emily, and I feel so bad about you as well. We're sword sisters. Like in nature, the lionesses, they don't hunt in the day. They hunt in the night. That's God's design. And they don't do it by themselves. They actually go together. The lionesses, they arise, they gather, and they go in the darkness. So we were made, we were made for that. The darkness is not dark to him. So the darkness shouldn't be dark to us. And we're meant to, this is the time to arise and gather and go into the darkness together. We shouldn't be afraid. Come on with that word. That's great. Y'all, I just encourage everyone who's listening, follow along on their socials. Cheer them on. If you're in London, I hope y'all connect and we can have some more sisterhood going on in London. But truly, follow them along. Emily has a podcast, Ribs and Knits, right? Check it out. It is beautiful. You're going to be so encouraged by it. It makes me laugh, but it's also so good. Like you teach in the word, girl. It's so beautiful. But thank y'all for being here. It's a blessing. Thank you so much for your comments. We love great sisterhood. We're all so blessed.