李诞

34.小浣熊水浒卡的作者们!

69 min
Jan 8, 20263 months ago
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Summary

This episode features an in-depth conversation with the creators of the iconic Xiaoxiong Water Margin trading cards (小浣熊水浒卡), discussing the cards' creation process, cultural impact, and the business dynamics behind this 1990s phenomenon. The creators reveal how the cards were developed in collaboration with Unilever's Xiaoxiong brand, the challenges of rapid production, and their plans to relaunch the Three Kingdoms card series.

Insights
  • Trading card collectibles became a cultural phenomenon not through intentional marketing but through organic consumer demand and scarcity-driven speculation, with secondary market prices reaching 200+ yuan per box
  • The rapid 7-8 month production timeline under extreme time pressure (similar to 996 work culture) resulted in quality inconsistencies but paradoxically enhanced the cards' cultural authenticity and appeal
  • The creators initially viewed the cards as a commercial project rather than a cultural artifact, only recognizing their generational impact years later through fan feedback and retrospective analysis
  • Successful IP collaborations require alignment between brand partners and creative teams, with Unilever's willingness to support the project being crucial to its execution despite tight deadlines
  • The 20+ year history of card counterfeiting demonstrates the enduring value and demand for the original product, with authentication now requiring in-person verification rather than online transactions
Trends
Nostalgia-driven product relaunches targeting millennial consumers who grew up with original collectiblesBlind box and collectible card mechanics becoming mainstream consumer products across food, beverage, and lifestyle brandsSecondary market speculation and resale culture for limited-edition collectibles, with authentication and condition grading becoming criticalCross-generational brand engagement where new employees discover and champion legacy products, driving internal revival initiativesArtistic quality and cultural relevance as differentiators in commodity collectibles, with superior illustration and design commanding premium valuationsCollaboration between advertising agencies and FMCG brands to create collectible IP as brand engagement toolsDigital-era challenges with counterfeiting and IP protection for analog collectibles from the pre-internet era
Topics
Trading card collectibles market and secondary market dynamicsProduct design and illustration in FMCG brand collaborationsNostalgia marketing and generational product relaunchesIP creation and cultural impact measurementProduction timelines and quality control under deadline pressureCounterfeiting and authentication in collectible marketsBrand partnerships between advertising agencies and consumer goods companiesBlind box mechanics and consumer psychology in collectiblesWorkplace culture in advertising agencies (996 work model)Chinese pop culture history and 1990s consumer trendsThree Kingdoms literary adaptation in visual mediaFood packaging as collectible merchandise platformArtist compensation and credit in collaborative commercial projectsConsumer speculation and price inflation in limited-edition productsDigital archiving and documentation of cultural phenomena
Companies
Unilever (统一)
Primary brand partner that commissioned and distributed the Xiaoxiong Water Margin cards as part of product packaging...
Ogilvy (奥美)
Advertising agency where the card creators worked; served as creative partner for the Xiaoxiong brand and card design
Xiaoxiong (小浣熊)
Unilever's snack brand that used trading cards as collectible merchandise bundled with product packaging
People
Lin Lao Shi (林老师)
Primary illustrator and creator of the Water Margin card series; discussed artistic approach and design philosophy
Li Chen (李诞)
Podcast host conducting the interview with the card creators about the Water Margin cards phenomenon
Mark Benbridge
Ogilvy Shanghai creative director who evaluated the card creator as having the strongest creative sense among account...
Quotes
"我们只知道商业事件,我们不知道文化事件,因为文化这个都需要时间酝酿积累的"
Card creatorMid-episode discussion on cultural impact
"那个时候赵老师说那种通宵画画,我一下就回到我上班那个时候,那个就我那会还那样了,我那会是08年,08年的澳美没有什么睡觉做广告哪能睡觉呀"
Card creatorDiscussion of 996 work culture in advertising
"我真的这一生就有过这么一次收藏的欲望,那如果说就真的只有那一年的话,那一年就把我这种乐趣就全部都释放,就太爽了"
Listener/collectorFan perspective on collecting experience
"做这个东西心态要好,所以我们这水壶卡,等于是整个这二十多年,一直在被盗版,没有停止"
Card creatorDiscussion of counterfeiting challenges
Full Transcript
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I think it's a card. 心里边是有一个香港女星的这么一个模子 心里边我就照着那个画 像是蓝结音还是谁 是 有点像吧 好 回去学习一下 那像普通的一套 我要集齐一套 不用特殊编号不用什么 就是一套比如说闪卡 大概要多少钱 新的 30周年 新的现在 现在显示大概是4到6千吧 老的呢 accompany Th they thought they would burst zien It's not bad for me. I'm not sure if I buy the meat. If you buy the meat, you buy the meat. If you buy the meat, you buy the meat. It's not good for me. What about the meat? In the 30th century, the meat was not a good meat. It's a regular meat. It's a good meat. It's a good meat. Many people just need to be able to play. They're all in the meat. 出各场的闪卡 然后拼凑起来一套2万到5万 要看品项 品项特别好的就稍微再更高一点 但是这个已经特别少 这跟我理解是差不多 反正也是够贵的 但是很值得 我觉得这个小时候没收集的话 没收集齐 这旧的闪卡已经不能在网上 因为拿到手可能会假的 或者说坏的 都是网上谈好 然后当面去验货 不靠快递 不能靠快递 金额太大 你们去参加有一些这种集会 就是卡的这种展会什么的 李老师是不是现场还得 我这个我就不知道了 因为我们现在都没时间去搞这些东西 先画 因为现在对我来说 其实任务也挺紧的 白天看孩子再还得画 这个时间跟我 我又体验到了像澳美一样的感觉 又回到冷梦 好 那我们期待一下三国卡 期待一下ajcie老师的新做。 感谢各位,谢谢,拜拜 2000.