Bred To Lead | With Dr. Jake Tayler Jacobs

Who Says Elephants Can't Dance? IBM’s Comeback and the Healthcare Lesson

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Jan 15, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Dr. Jake Taylor Jacobs explores IBM's historic turnaround under Lou Gerstner as a case study for organizational transformation, arguing that system failures—not people failures—drive organizational decline. He draws parallels to healthcare's sterile processing departments, which suffer from invisible beliefs and broken systems that trap talented employees in reactive, undervalued roles.

Insights
  • Organizational failure stems from invisible beliefs and broken systems, not incompetent people; changing systems allows talented employees to succeed where they previously appeared to fail
  • IBM's recovery came from challenging core beliefs (hardware focus, decentralization, cultural immutability) rather than replacing leadership, proving large organizations can transform
  • Healthcare sterile processing departments operate under three invisible beliefs—that reactivity is inevitable, SPD is a cost center not strategic asset, and OR dissatisfaction is unsolvable—all of which are false
  • Measurement systems and visibility gaps prevent leaders from understanding true operational impact; fixing systems requires changing metrics, not firing people
  • Operational blindness assessment and system redesign (like Gerstner's approach) can transform healthcare operations by addressing root causes rather than symptoms
Trends
Healthcare organizations cycling through departmental leadership without addressing systemic issues, mirroring IBM's pre-turnaround dysfunctionGrowing recognition that sterile processing directly impacts surgical revenue and OR efficiency, shifting from cost-center to strategic-asset perspectiveIncreasing need for operational visibility systems in healthcare to identify hidden costs and inefficiencies not captured in standard financial reportingMovement toward proactive rather than reactive operational models in healthcare support departmentsHealthcare leadership focus on system redesign and belief-system change as transformation strategy rather than personnel replacementDemand for healthcare operating systems that provide methodology, visibility, and capability development rather than traditional consultingRecognition that adversarial relationships between departments (SPD vs. OR) stem from broken systems, not character flaws or incompetence
Topics
Organizational transformation and turnaround strategySystem design vs. personnel management in organizational changeInvisible beliefs and cultural assumptions limiting organizational performanceHealthcare sterile processing operations and efficiencyMeasurement systems and operational visibility in healthcareRelationship between sterile processing and surgical servicesCost center vs. strategic asset positioning in healthcareReactive vs. proactive operational modelsHealthcare leadership and executive decision-makingOperational blindness assessment and diagnosisIntegration and decentralization in organizational structureHealthcare financial impact of operational inefficiencyChange management and organizational cultureAccountability mechanisms and operating rhythmsHealthcare system implementation and transformation
Companies
IBM
Case study of historic turnaround from $8B loss in 1993 under CEO Lou Gerstner by changing systems and beliefs rather...
SPS Healthcare
Dr. Jacobs' company offering Sterabodazine operating system to cure operational blindness in healthcare sterile proce...
American Express
Company where Lou Gerstner spent his career before joining IBM as CEO
RJR Nabisco
Company where Lou Gerstner worked before his appointment as IBM CEO
People
Lou Gerstner
IBM CEO who transformed company from $8B loss to $100B+ value increase by changing systems and beliefs, not replacing...
Dr. Jake Taylor Jacobs
Podcast host and author of 'Operational Blindness' applying IBM turnaround lessons to healthcare sterile processing t...
Quotes
"The same people who looked incompetent in the broken system looked excellent in the fixed system. The people didn't change, the system changed."
Dr. Jake Taylor JacobsMid-episode
"IBM didn't have a strategy problem. The company was drowning in strategies. IBM had a culture problem. More specifically, IBM had a belief problem."
Dr. Jake Taylor Jacobs (reading from Operational Blindness)Chapter excerpt
"These beliefs weren't written in any policy manual. They were simply the water that IBM fish swam in, so pervasive, so fundamental, that nobody questioned them."
Dr. Jake Taylor Jacobs (reading from Operational Blindness)Chapter excerpt
"If you're an executive, stop looking for people to blame. Start looking for systems to fix."
Dr. Jake Taylor JacobsApplication section
"The elephant can dance. But first, you have to find the stake it's chained to—the invisible beliefs, the broken system, the metrics that measure the wrong things—and remove it."
Dr. Jake Taylor JacobsConclusion
Full Transcript
In 1993, IBM was dying. $8 billion in losses, the largest in American corporate history. Analysts said, break it up, sell it for parts. The talent is gone, the culture is toxic, the elephant is too big, too slow, too stoked to survive. They were wrong. One man walked into that disaster and saw something no one else could see. He didn't fire everyone, he didn't blow it up. He kept most of the same managers who presided over the collapse and turned them into the leaders of one of the greatest corporate turnarounds in the history of America. How? He changed the system, not the people, the system. And that lesson, the lesson that IBM taught the business world 30 years ago is the exact same lesson, the healthcare. Industry today is in dire need of. Welcome back to Braytalee. I want to take the lead. I'm excited to see you. And in this episode, things may be a little bit different. We're going to try for the rest of this season, rather long season for full video view. You want to see the full actual video of the podcast or class as we call it. You can go to our YouTube at Dr. Jake Taylor Jacobs on YouTube. And we're excited to show more visual aspect of the show in my office at our research and training institute, our headquarters here in Dallas. So let's get to it. Welcome back, Bridge Builders to Braytalee. The podcast built to build the greatest leaders of our next generation. I'm your host, Dr. Jake Taylor Jacobs. And if you're new here, welcome to the family. If you've been rocking with us since season one, I appreciate you holding it down. This is episode 35, season three. And this season, we're doing something different. I just released my newest book, Operational Blindness. Why healthcare leaders can't see what's costing them millions and how to finally fix it? I'm excited about this book. And instead of telling you to go and buy it and figure it out for yourself, I'm going to bring you inside every episode for the remainder of this season. I'm going to read directly from the book, Word for Word. And then I'm going to break it down, teach it, expand on it, give you the stories, the context, and the application that didn't make it to the pages. Or else this book would have been a thousand pages. Think of it like a master class, which is what bread to lead is. You get the content. Then you get the commentary. Now, if you want the full book, it will be available on Amazon soon and on our site everywhere. That the book can be sold. If you want a free copy of this book and you are in executive at a hospital, the qualifications, you have to be in executive at a hospital. We will be having very soon, potentially by episode 36 or 37. We will have very soon the operational blindness assessment and any leader running, any organization can take it to see if you are indeed operationally lined and how we can help you fix that. So I'm excited about this. But if you don't ever go get it, the book, you're going to walk away from every episode this season with something you can use. So let's jump right into it. Today's topic is actually called the elephant everyone forgot. I'm starting here for a reason, because before I can teach you what operational blindness is, before I can show you what is costing your organization, I need to reframe how you think about organizational failure. Because here's what most leaders do. When something isn't working, they look for someone to blame, the department's underperforming, fire the director, metrics aren't hitting, replace the manager. The complaints keep coming. There must be a people problem. And look, sometimes it very much is a people problem. I'm not naive, but more often than not, you got talented people just trapped in broken, old, antiquated systems. And this is what's causing the demise of so many organizations. It doesn't matter how many heads you swap out, the result will stay the same. And Lou Gertzner figured this out at IBM. And if you're a healthcare executive who's been cycling through SPD directors every two years, wondering why nothing ever changes, you need to hear what he discovered. Now, before I get into reading a section of the book, let me tell you something. If the concept is hitting you, it's hitting home for you. If you're already thinking about your own organization and wondering how deep this goes, I put together a resource specifically for leaders who want to dive deeper and go deeper. It's called the operational blindness white paper. It's a comprehensive breakdown of what the condition is, how to identify it and what it actually is causing healthcare organizations. And we're talking millions in the hitting cost that never show up on a standard PNL. The beautiful thing about the white paper is regardless of the industry that you're in, I know that we have several bridge builders that are from different industries that listen to this pie class. You still can take so many isms because the problems that healthcare are dealing with today are the same problems that every industry and every business, every market deal with. And the white paper is free. You can download it right now at sipshealthcare.com. And if you go to blog on our page, you'll be able to see the white paper. You don't have to put any information in. It's absolutely free. You can actually read it to get up to speed. These are all free resources that you can access. You don't have the means to actually get the book. Or if there's any type of information through the series of shows that you want to just kind of dive deeper and get context. And there's amazing writers that we use as sources to help us come up with the concept that we identify as operational blindness. And I'm gonna read this section from chapter one of operational blindness. And it's called the elephant, everyone forgot. I want you to follow along. If you go and get the book, if not just listen. When I'm going to read, I'm gonna start at page 22 and I'm reading to page 24 live here. And I think this new iteration of the show, I think y'all are gonna love it. If you do get the book, I do wanna tell you this, that in the table of contents, it's not broken down like chapters, 12 chapters, 10 chapters, and a title of the chapter. How it's broken down inside the book is the table of contents is actually by subcategories and topics. If you're newer to the pie class or the pie class, what I would say is fundamentally a structure of how I teach is in frameworks. They're like isms, they're like parts, if you will, that allows for me to give you things or tools to add to your tool belt as a leader and be able to execute from the information versus is being fluff motivational stuff. So all throughout the book, that there's so many topics over 100 semi topics that you really can just expound on and the purpose of the book is for you to read it, of course through, and then use it as a manual to be able to focus on taking care of some of the operational blindness areas that you have. So we're gonna go to page 22, the elephant everyone forgot. And on page 22, here we go. In 1993, Luke Gertzner became the CEO of IBM, a company that virtually everyone had written off as dead. The numbers were catastrophic. IBM had just posted an $8 billion loss, the largest in American corporate history at the time. Its stock had collapsed. Its best people were leaving industry analysts, competitors, and even some of IBM's own board members had reached near universal consensus. The company was too big, too slow, too bureaucratic to survive in the fast moving personal computer era. The only rational path forward was to break IBM into smaller, more agile pieces and sell them off. After all, elephants can't dance. Gertzner who had spent his career at American Express in RJR and Nabisco, he wasn't a technology executive. He didn't have deep relationships in the industry. When his appointment was announced, skeptics questioned whether an outsider could possibly understand a company as complex as IBM, let alone save it. But Gertzner had one advantage that the insiders lacked. He could see, he wasn't blinded by decades of internal assumptions, he wasn't trapped in the belief systems that have calcified over generations of IBM's culture. He could look at the company with fresh eyes, ask questions that no one inside had thought to ask or had been afraid to ask. What he discovered changed everything. IBM didn't have a strategy problem. The company was drowning in strategies. Every decision, every division had turnaround plan. Every business unit had a dick. Every manager had a vision of how things could get be different and be better. If strategies could save the company, IBM would have been invincible. IBM had a culture problem. More specifically, IBM had a belief problem. The company believed it was a hardware company that its destiny was tied to selling mainframes in personal computers. When the future actually belonged to services and solutions, the company believed that its famous independence and decentralization were strengths. When they had actually become weaknesses that prevented IBM from serving customers who needed integrated solutions, the company believed that its best days were behind it, that the culture was too intense to change, that the elephant really couldn't dance. These beliefs weren't written in any policy manual. They weren't discussed in strategy meetings. They were simply the water that IBM fish, swear man. So pervasive, so fundamental, that nobody questioned them. They were invincible. And because they were invincible, they were almost impossible to change. Gertzner's genius was recognizing that the beliefs were the problem, not the people, not the technology, not the competition, the beliefs. He kept IBM together when everyone said to break it apart. He bet the company on services when everyone said hardware was the core business. He drove integration when everyone said decentralization was sacred. And he did it not by replacing all of the people. Most of IBM's transformations were, was executed by the same employees who had presided over his decline. But by replacing that the beliefs that made excellence impossible. The results were historic. Within a few years, IBM had returned to profitability by the end of Gertzner's tenure. The company's market value had increased by over $100 billion. The elephant had learned to dance. Gertzner later wrote a book about the experience. He called it, who says elephants can't dance, a direct challenge to the conventional wisdom that had nearly destroyed the company. The title of the book wasn't just clever marketing. It was the thesis. The limitation wasn't real. It was a belief and beliefs absolutely can change. All right, let's break this down. The setup, why IBM matters. IBM in 1993 is the perfect case study for what I see in healthcare every single day. Who you have a company that dominated its industry for decades. The best talent, the best technology, the best reputation. And then almost overnight, their imaging money, eight billion in losses, stock collapsed, the best people leaving. And what does everyone say? The people are the problem. Complacin, arrogant, out of touch. Doesn't that sound familiar? How many times have you heard someone say that about thorough processing department? They just don't get it. They don't care about OR. They're not working hard enough. Gertzner walks in and outside of, by the way, which is how I feel, which is important. And he sees something completely different. He sees talented people, some of the best in the industry, people who desperately want to succeed, people who are working hard, but they're trapped, trapped in beliefs. They can't see trapped in systems that make failure inevitable, trapped in metrics that measure the wrong things. Beliefs that trapped IBM. Let me give you three beliefs that were killing IBM. Make sure you write this down. One, we're a hardware company. IBM believe their future was mainframes in PCs. That's where the money had always come from. That's where they knew. That's what they measured themselves by. But the world had shifted. The future was services and solutions, integrated offerings that solved customer problems. IBM couldn't see it because they were measuring themselves by the old game while the new game was being played around them. Two, decentralization is our strength. IBM was proud of how independent their divisions were. Each business unit did its own thing. They thought that was agility. That was entrepreneurship, but customers didn't want five different IBM sales people calling them with five different products that didn't work together. Customers wanted solutions and IBM's structure made integrated solutions impossible. Three, the culture can't change. This is the killer. Everyone inside of IBM, most people outside believed IBM's culture was too entrenched to change. That's just how it got here. That's just how it is here. You can't fight the bureaucracy. The elephant can't dance. When you believe change is impossible, you stop trying. And when you stop trying, you prove yourself right. Now here's the critical insight. These beliefs weren't written in any policy manual. Nobody put a poster that said we believe decentralization is sacred. Nobody sent a memo saying, we will always be a hardware company. These beliefs were invisible. They were the water that the fish swim and so pervasive, so fundamental that nobody questioned them. And because they were invincible, they were almost impossible to change. Let me ask you something. As I'm describing these invisible beliefs, these systems that trap talented people, are you thinking about your own organization? Are you wondering, do we have operational blindness? How bad is it? What is actually costing us? Here's the thing. You don't have to guess. We built a free assessment specifically for healthcare leaders who want to know where they stand. It's called operational blindness assessment. Very simple. It takes about 10 minutes. You answer some questions, be absolutely honest about your SBD operations or any of your operations. Your visibility and your visibility into outcomes. Your relationship between there are processing and surgical services. And at the end, you get a score. You get a clear picture of how severe your operational blindness is and where the biggest gaps are hiding. No cost, no commitment, just clarity. Go to sipshealthcare.com for a slash assessment. Take it yourself. Have your SPD director take it. Have your OR director take it separately. And compare answers. That alone will tell you something. At least knowing where you're blind or the fact that you are blind will allow for you to see that in most cases, not the people, most people want to do a good job. In most cases, it's because we're operationally blind somewhere and the metrics that we have been fundamentally using for 20 to 30 years may not be the right metrics to go by. Now, the healthcare parallel with IBM, but I have to bring this home back to healthcare, particularly in sterile processing. We have our own invisible beliefs. And that's just, that's deadly, honestly. SPD will always be reactive. I hear this constantly all over the country. That's just the nature of the work. Instruments come in, you process them, fires happen, you put them out. That's the job, but it's not true. Proactive SPD operations are possible. We've done it. We run them. They're just rare because most organizations have never seen them and can't imagine them. SPD is a cost center, not a strategic asset. This belief determines everything. How much attention SPD gets, how much investment, how much respect, but think about it. SPD directly enables surgical revenue. It's not opinions, the fact. Every case delay, every frustrated surge and every quality event has a financial impact. The department isn't just a cost. It's a constraint on your most profitable service line. The OR will never be satisfied. And this one poisons the relationship between SPD and surgical services. It creates an adversarial dynamic where both sides stop trying because they've decided the problems are unsolvable. But the OR is dissatisfaction is a signal, not a character flow. It's telling you something is broken, dismissing it as inevitable. Guarantees it will never be fixed. And what Gersner did, and what you need to do, Gersner didn't fire everyone. He didn't bring in an army of outsiders. He kept most of the existing management team, but he changed the system that they operated in. He challenged the beliefs. He changed the measurements. He restructured the organization. He created new accountability mechanisms. He made the systems the target, not the people. And that's was key. And here's what happened. Many of the same managers who had presided over IBM's decline became leaders of its turnaround, talking all across the world today about their involvement in this historic turnaround. Their capabilities hadn't changed. Their circumstances had. And let me, let me say that again, because this is the whole point. The same people who looked incompetent and the broken system looked excellent in the fixed system. The people didn't change, the system changed. Your application. So here's what I want you to take for this. Your application. What do I want you to take for this? Your application. If you're an executive, stop looking for people to blame. Start looking for systems to fix. The next time your SPD is underperforming them, before you fire the director, ask yourself, does this person have visibility into their real impact? Do they have the resources to succeed? Is the measurement system showing them what actually matters? If the answer to you, to any of these things or no, you don't have a people problem, you have a system problem. If you're an SPD leader, this should be liberated. The dysfunction you've been drowning in is not your fault. You've been operating in a system designed to fail. Anyone in your position would struggle, but in this is important. Liberation is not the same as absolution. Once you understand this system problem, you have a responsibility to advocate for a system change. You can't just throw up your hands and say, hey, it's the system while continuing to operate the same. If you are in surgical services, your frustration is valid, but your SPD colleagues aren't your enemy. They're trapped in the same broken system that you are. The question isn't why can't SPD get it together. The question is what system is preventing all of us from succeeding together? In Luke Gerson, a road his men were, and the IBM turnaround, nobody called it. Who says elephants can't dance? The title is a direct rebuke to everyone who said he couldn't be done. Everyone who said IBM was too big, everyone who said they were too stuck, everyone who said there was bureaucratic to transform. They were wrong. And everyone who says your SPD can't transform, everyone who says reactive operations are inevitable, everyone who says elephants can't dance, they're wrong too. The elephant can dance. But first, you have to find the stake is chain to, the invisible beliefs, the broken system, the metrics that measure the wrong things and remove it. And that's what this book is about. That's what this season is about. Now, some of you are listening to this and thinking, okay, Jake, Dr. Jake, okay, I get it. The system is the problem. So what's the solution? How do I actually fix it? And it's actually why we built what we call sterabodazine. Sterabodazine is an operating system that curious operational blindness. It's not a consulting engagement where someone comes in, gives you reporting leaves. It's a complete methodology, visibility systems, operating rhythms, capability development, that transform how your SPD operates. We've implemented it in community hospitals, academic medical centers, ASCs, and now large health systems. And the results speaks for themselves. ORDLA's cutting-and-half instrument costs cut down, but 20-30% premium labor is normalized. And SPD directors who finally have the tools to succeed instead of just survive are thriving. And if you want to see what this looks like for your organization, Schedule Demo, it's a conversation, no pressure. We're sure exactly how sterabodazine addresses the specific gaps you're facing. Go to cittethcare.com. Schedule Demo, talk to our team, see if it's a fit. Because it's a truth. You can't keep cycling through directors. You can keep implementing actions, plans that don't stick. You can keep hoping things get better on their own, or you can fix the system. So let's have a conversation. And see if we can fix your operational blindness. That's episode 35, Bridge Builders, the elephant, everyone forgot. Next episode, we're going deeper into the healthcare parallel. Why the same patterns that nearly destroyed IBM or playing out right now in hospitals all across America? And what you can do about it. Let me recap. We'll be covered today. Luke Gertz will approve that elephants can dance. That large stuck organizations can transform. The problem at IBM wasn't the people. It was invisible beliefs and broken systems that made talented people looking competent. Healthcare has its own invisible beliefs. That SPD will always be reactive. That it's just a cost center. That the OR will never be satisfied. None of these beliefs are true. They're just invisible. And invisible beliefs are the hardest to change. If you're getting value from this series and you do get value from this series, here's what I'm going to need you to do. One, subscribe, follow whatever your platform. You like follow. We drive episodes bi-weekly, sometimes weekly. Share the episode with the healthcare leader. We drop an episode when I have time to get one done in between our busy schedule. We have a lot of system implementations. And I spend a lot of time making sure I'm on site personally helping with these implementations because we believe that in order to show a client that you care and you truly care about one, their career. When people say yes, they're saying yes to you helping them with their career, supporting them. We want to make sure that you're good with that. And for those that are newer to the show, please go back and listen to a couple of more episodes. This was just an entry into an entry episode into my topic change for the year. I wasn't sure if I was going to actually drop operational blindness this year. But we actually needed it to be dropped because it goes hand in hand and coincides directly with our system. And we need to be able to start identifying these needs, especially since there are a lot of things changing, especially in funding for hospitals and health care all over the country. And my team, they're telling me to make sure I tell you to subscribe. Share this episode with anyone in health care that needs to hear it. Take the free operational blindness assessment at sipshealthcare.com assessments. We will have that up pretty soon. The assessments, the next episode of the week, episode after. Download the white paper. You can go to sipshealthcare.com, click blog on our site and you'll see the white paper right first hand. Follow us on LinkedIn. Go to sipshealthcare solutions on LinkedIn. If I'll let me talk to Jake Taylor, Jacob's, Jake, ETA, YLER, Jacob's on LinkedIn. And our YouTube will be on the Jake Taylor, Jacob's YouTube in the sips health care YouTube. Sorry, I had to bring it for her. This is the end of today's pie class. This is Dr. Jake Taylor, Jacob's. This is where it's lead. And go build your legacy. Go build your true bridge, Bill. And I'm excited about this season. I'm excited about this pivot. I'm excited. I got this book together and got it ready. Once I finished the white paper, I was like, I should go ahead and just drop the book. And so every year, you all will notice I will be dropping a white paper in a book. I usually do it a year or twice a year, doing that for the last and maybe six, seven years. So I can't get one now. It's fine. You can follow on the episode on the show. And I just wanted to let you know how much we appreciate you. How much we care about you? 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