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This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Isaiah Collier played all 48 minutes last night, had 17 points and 22 assists. And Utah ended up winning. Collier went to USC for one year. Marvin, right? Yeah, he was on, he played the same year as Brony James. Okay. You could tell which one was the NBA player. So Brony played with him, not he played with Brony. Correct. Yes. But we thought there was a big difference when you watch those two plays. Like, well, that guy's an NBA player. That guy has a dad who plays in the NBA. Oh, for sure. Getting a text from you at 11 38 at night. Yeah. Watching USC game. My wife's like, who's that texting? It's Dan. 22 assists most in the NBA this season, most by a jazz player since John Stockton had 22 in 1992. Got you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Did we come up with an answer, Paul, of most NBA teams by a Hall of Famer? Yeah. And these are guys either in or going in. So there's a bunch of sixers, six times. Tracy McGready had six, Shaq six, Mutombo six, Carmelo Anthony six. Now the sevens, Moses Malone, Dwight Howard, Chauncey Billups still in the hall. Bob McAdoo, Adrian Dantley, seven teams, Dan. And one guy had eight. Here's the hint. One of us, I think everybody loves this guy. Well, one of us on the staff really loves this guy. That's the hint. Probably his favorite basketball player. It's not me, Marvin or Seaton. All right, it's Seaton. Oh, there's a hint. The hint is it's me. Your favorite basketball player. I think so. One of the guys that I talk about a lot. Marvin. Vince Carter. OK. That man half amazing. Yes. Vincent Lamar Carter, Jr. Eight teams. The third. Cooper Flag got 36, nine and six. They lost. Mab's lost to the Celtics and the Warriors had just two free throws in the loss to the 76ers. We talked to Steve Kerr prior to the game yesterday. And my first question was, are you a football fan? I do. Yeah. Yeah, big fan. I watch everything. And who do you root for? Well, I root for the Niners. I was a Rams fan growing up. And then when they moved to St. Louis, I discarded them. And so I've become a Niners fan living up here the last 12 years. But then when the Rams came back, you didn't go back. Yeah, it's too late. It's like, you know, your ex-girlfriend, you know, runs off with someone and then comes back. It's not the same thing. So how much blame do you take for the proliferation of the three point shot? Yeah, I take zero responsibility for that, just so you know. Well, so it's all on Steph. I blame Steph for all of it. Every bit of it. Yeah. But when did you come to the grips of I'm going to let him shoot wherever, whenever? Midway through my first season coaching him. There's there's actually a clip. It's probably right when it happened. It's a famous clip where he dribbles around his back through his legs around four different guys on the clippers with a light blue short sleeve jerseys on. Yeah. And he shoots like a fade away, 26 footer. And they show me on the sidelines. I'm holding. So I don't know if it was that moment, but there definitely was a moment that season, my first year coaching him where everything I'd ever been taught by all of my coaches and pretty much all of whom were in the Hall of Fame. And by the way, everything I was ever taught was, you know, these are terrible shots. You can't, you can't shoot that. You can always get a better shot later. And then about halfway through my, my first year coaching staff, I realized that's part of his power. And you just let him rip and he's going to take some bad ones. But in the end, he's going to shoot over 40% and there's something about his swashbuckling approach that is really powerful for the team. Can you teach it? I don't think so. I don't think you can teach it. I think players have to have that. But the tricky part is you can, sorry about my dog in the background. You can get, you can get players who have it, but they shouldn't have it. You know what I mean? Like, like the opposite can be true too. Like a guy who has that attitude, which, you know, you kind of admire, but the shooting percentages don't go hand in hand. Could you imagine though, Larry Bird with today's philosophy or, you know, throw out whoever, like what kind of numbers are they putting up shooting from the three point range? Well, I think, I think we're going to see it with Con Canipple doing what he's doing in his rookie year. You know, this is, you know, probably the first generation of rookies who have really grown up and learned basketball, you know, watching Steph Curry and watching the, the style of play these days with the pace and the three point shots. And, you know, for most, most of the young players over the past half decade or so, it's, it's felt more like, all right, this is kind of where it's all heading. And with, with Canipple, it's more like, this is already where I am right away. And you can see what a great shooter is of the volume. I think you're going to start seeing more and more players who come in with that approach because analytically and stylistically, the game has really evolved over the last decade toward is now. And Caitlin Clark doesn't happen without Steph Curry. Right. Totally agree. Totally agree. And it really is remarkable when you think about how Steph has impacted the game beyond just the records and the championships and everything else. It's, it really is an art form with him. And there's, there's only, you know, certain athletes who can really emulate him, but, but this, this, you know, in terms of the fluidity and the movement and the grace, but stylistically, analytically, everything has kind of led to this point, I think in the league and Steph is at the forefront of that, obviously. Talking to Steve Kerr, the Warriors head coach, I'm curious that you played for pop, you played for Phil, you played for Lute Olson. If I said, give me the one thing, if there's one thing you took from those three Hall of Fame coaches? Yeah, that's, it's a great question. I mean, I've definitely taken a lot from all of them. I played for Lenny Wilkins and Cleveland for three years. Brilliant Hall of Fame coach. I think what I would say ties them all together is their authenticity, just to who they are, what they believe in, what they stand for. I think you have to have conviction as a head coach. You can believe in anything. You can come from any kind of background, but the players need to feel that conviction, that authenticity, that compassion for what your players are going through, what they're dealing with day after day. All of those things, you know, I felt from all four of those Hall of Fame coaches. But do you believe that everybody is individual? It used to be the old school style is you're all the same. It's a team, but there's so many personalities and demands on a game and time and, you know, stardom. And so do you subscribe more to what Phil Jackson was doing with the bulls? Well, I think Phil was ahead of his time. He was probably at the forefront of what you're seeing with a lot of modern coaches, which is very much being in tune on the emotional side with your players. I thought Phil came around right at the end of the my way or the highway type, you know, style coaching. And he helped us. You're in this modern era that we're in where, you know, yes, there's more empowerment for the players, but it's also just society, how different we are. You know, the way we live, the way we see things. And so I think coaches today are much more like like Phil than they would have been, you know, during Phil's time, just being really aware of of everything that's happening. But what made Phil really unique was his background and his interest and his love for Native American spirituality. And, you know, a lot of people made fun of all that stuff, calling him Chief Triangle or whatever, but it was real, you know, he was so brilliant and so authentic. And we felt, we genuinely felt like part of his tribe, you know, he would say that and we felt it. And that was what made him so great. Are you and Steph a package deal? Is this, are you going to coach into it? Are you going to coach until Steph leaves? Well, I would never leave him. I can tell you that. I love Steph. I'm so incredibly lucky to have coached him for 12 years. I think every coach kind of dreams of, you know, coaching somebody like Steph, who is arguably the greatest face of the franchise of any player who's ever lived. And I will never leave him. I can tell you, I'm not going to become a free agent and go sign with another team to coach, but it all has to play out, you know, with the organization. But yeah, hopefully that, that's how it ends up, but you never know. Trade deadline comes and goes. You were traded five times? Yes, five times. How tough is that? You go home and you tell your wife and I don't know if you had little ones at home? Really hard, really hard. It's a lot easier if you get traded in the off season. Was there a city where you said to your wife, hey, I got traded, where are we going? There was only one time when I lived away from my family and that was when I got traded from San Antonio to Portland, but it wasn't because of the city. It was because I was traded during the school year. It was just before camp. It would have been probably mid to late September. Kids were already in school and we just decided to leave them there and I went up to Portland on my own. That's a really difficult thing to do, but something that a lot of NBA players end up having to do. You talked about Steph. I maintain that he has changed the game probably more than any other basketball player from this standpoint of, you know, be like Mike. Nobody could be like Mike, but you feel like you can be like Steph. I don't know if we're getting into Victor Wimbanyama. Is he going to change the game? Are we going to look back in 15 years and say, oh my gosh, he started this? But then I don't know. Steph is so unique that we've seen big men who are athletic and dirt could shoot from the perimeter, but Wimbanyama, the fact that he is so good at both ends of the floor, I don't know if he reminds you of anybody else. No, I mean, if you think it would be hard to be like Mike, imagine telling your kid, be like Victor. Be taller. Just be taller. Keep eating those carrots. I don't know. I just think he is more of a unicorn than anybody I've ever seen. Just the size and the skill, but also the awareness, the desire to be great. You can see it. I've never even talked to him or met him, but you can see it just in the way he carries himself. But there's so few people who are ever born to look like that. And I think that's what Steph's appeal is to so many people, boys and girls. He is someone who at least you can imagine being like for real. Now, that's not really true either because he has a greatest hand-eye coordination of anybody on earth, but he's inspiring so many people and it's really fun to watch. I think you had 30 career starts. That sounds about right. That sounds like a lot actually. Yeah, I looked it up. I think one year you had like 20 starts. And you might have the fewest start. You might be the most famous person in NBA history with the fewest starts. Rings per start ratio. It's pretty good. Yeah, I'm very proud of that. I'm sure you are. I'm curious if your kids know the feeling of when you yell at Dreymond. Did they ever know that wrath that you know when you yell at him? To be fair, my kids have never yelled at me like Dreymond. But you've never run them. You've probably sent your kids basically to the showers. Yeah, sent them to an early shower and early bedtime. That might have happened a couple of times back in the day. But you and Dreymond are going to be friends for life, right? He is the best. He's so emotional and passionate and we've been connected for 12 years to miss Pwesto Wynn. He's the first to tell you he's flawed and he goes overboard at times. But he's such a competitor and his will to win is kind of what's not only gotten him this far but also gotten him into trouble over the years. And he knows that. It's been something that he and I have really tried to work on together and kind of embrace because you can't win without competitive desire like that on your team. Thanks for taking time. I know you're busy and good luck. Always good to see you, Dan. Steve, his dog started attacking him and I'm like somebody loves you, you know. But you have known Steve a long, long time. Go back to the Arizona days. But he played for Lute Olson, plays for Phil Jackson, plays for Greg Popovich. If you're looking at careers where you go, okay, that guy had 30 career starts. But he ends up being part of what nine NBA titles as player and coach, assistant coach, playing on the bowls, playing with Mike. Pretty amazing career. And he's going to go into the Hall of Fame and go back to Wynn. Remember when Phil Jackson left the Knicks or stepped down? We thought Steve Kerr was going to go to the Knicks. And then he eventually replaces Mark Jackson with Golden State. And that's when we didn't know how good Golden State was. They were curiosity. And then all of a sudden Steve said, you know, I can unlock the potential of this team. But they almost traded Clay Thompson for Kevin Love. And I think Mark Jackson was still the head coach and I asked him about that. And he said, I'll never, I'd never give up Clay Thompson. And Kevin Love was a big deal. I mean, he was giving you, you know, 30 20. He gave you a 30 30 game. Yeah, Paulie. This was in 2014, right before the run started. They almost traded Kevin Love for Clay Thompson. Tons of stories about it. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9am Eastern 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Stugots here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow. And I have brought it here to I Heart. I'm also doing a live radio show from three to five PM Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. 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I will say it's too early for my ego to be hurt by being behind a dog. Had a pole but I'm coming to terms with that. It is a good looking dog though. Oh it's a famous dog. It's a good looking dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How close did you come to coaching Stanford football? Not close at all. You had no interest. No no interest. No desire. Wasn't right for me. Okay. I thought that that that's as close as you can get to replicating what it's like to play. You have no interest in replicating that feeling. No. Look I volunteer coached for two years at Palo Alto High School before before taking the GM job was the freshman offensive coordinator. And JV Ball. Were you good? No I don't think I was very good. I don't think I was. It's I do think I do think there's some truth to what you said Dan about. It's probably the closest thing to replicating what it's like to playing. But not right for me. One I have an incredible respect for the coaching profession. Two for my life our family what Stanford football needs and needed a year ago and needs now. Like I'm in the perfect spot. Explain what your role is. So I'm the general manager of the team. I I think maybe in some ways also act like a team president or an athletic director just for football do a lot of fundraising a lot of spreading the good word. I feel like a like an evangelical preacher barnstorming you know the country you know proselytizing about Stanford football roster management certainly made have made coaching changes you know in the short tenure and hired Tavita Pritchard as our as our as our head coach and helping him with staff and look we what's what's still so unique about college sports as we stand for football exists within Stanford University's ecosystem right like it's we're part of this amazing institution of higher ed so building bridges with the academy. I mean we have 109 guys on the team let's say 18 to 22 year olds they're amazing. They're also like 18 to 22 year olds do some dumb stuff like I still do dumb stuff but like we all did dumb stuff and it's so working with them every day is a blast and yeah it's a little bit of everything a little bit of everything a lot of learning on the job Dan. How given NIL if you were coming out of high school would you have still gone to Stanford. I would have look one what three or four years ago I'm not sure you know we we we were a little slow to adapt and and embrace the changes but today absolutely I was talking to Christian McCaffrey about this last week we were we we saw each other was asking his perspective on it and and and he was he's I'm sure he'd say it if you're sitting right here he'd go to Stanford again right we we have a unique value proposition and I do know we are serious about football and if you're a serious football player that also has the academic qualifications the grades you know we're the place for you but as far as money goes yeah and I have somebody who's a great source on this you've got to have around 40 million dollars if you want to be a top-end football program it feels like in the in the treasure trove there the collectives your NIL is that a fair number do you think in the way of Stanford in that I'm I'm not I won't get into our numbers or any other numbers I don't I don't see the balance sheets you know including collectives but it's it's a murky market it there's there's there's not much transparency to it I I think there are certainly schools and programs that seem willing to do whatever it takes you know to get there we we think we we can do it our way and be competitive and look the person the pudding right we got to go out and play games you got to go out and put a winning product on the field you got to teach great football you got to coach great football and I think we have that with our our young man in the locker room and our coaching staff but how is it when you're negotiating with somebody who wants money yeah how does that work you talk to the player the agent the parents it's the full spectrum uh but what is that like you got players certainly representing themselves you've got agents and then you have the full continuum of agents right uh from those have been doing it for a long time from those just starting out on the journey parents as well uh certainly each one uh creates a little bit of a different dynamic with its own challenges I also have a great assistant GM you know I'm a people please are Dan so if I thought it's still it's still part of college is recruiting right and fall in love with it and and and selling Stanford so you know I get compromised in negotiation fairly quickly you know what do you want five million dad okay I'll give it to you let's make it seven let's go here you go you're sorry sorry but it's uh it's it's it's a muscle I'm learning to exercise as well absolutely okay uh what do you miss about football you know the the elements of football that I do miss are part of why I'm back in the game in this role right as as a general manager uh having a role being on a team game days are fun like I I forgot like I actually sort of enjoy the stress of are we gonna you know win or not like it's it's exhausting uh in in a in a real way how does the loss affect you when you're the GM as opposed to a quarterback uh you're not as physically hurt I don't miss don't miss getting hit I don't miss getting hit I think you asked different questions we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we were we is enough, like there's no waiver wire in the NFL, there's no, you don't, in college like there is in the NFL, you don't sign guys off the street to a place so you think about, you know, how are we developing our guys? What do we have enough of what we need for the future? Do it, you know, do I need to ask certain questions that help us going? But I, you know, one, you're in it with everybody. It's, and it's fun to be back in it and live in the highs and lows. He's Andrew Luck, the Stanford University General Manager. I did not know this, but people at Stanford sent this to me. Stanford's one of five schools to produce a US president and a Super Bowl winning quarterback. You know the answers, don't you? Okay. I better know the answers. I hope I do. Okay. Who wants to take a guess here? There are five schools. So Stanford's one. Paul? Michigan? Michigan is there. Marvin? Delaware? Delaware? Sneaky. Sneaky. Miami of Ohio. Wow. Navy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Stop. All right. Who's the most famous graduate of Stanford? Who is the most famous? I don't think Tiger graduated. You didn't, you didn't give him an honorary degree? Christian hasn't graduated yet. Do you give honorary degrees? I'm sure we give honorary. I don't know if we, I don't have that authority, Dan. I don't know. Who's the most famous? Herbert Hoover was our president? Yeah, but he's not famous. System president. Yeah. Larry Page and Sergey. Oh. Very rich. Oh, good. Yeah. Well, I got to see Jim Plunkett last night and he might not be the most famous, but at least in, I think in my life right now to see Jim Plunkett walk around and, you know, to see a Heisman Trophy. Yeah. And gosh, hopefully NFL Hall of Fame soon. He's maybe the most relevant Stanford grad in my life besides my wife. I always thought that you were a defensive-minded player playing quarterback. Did you play with a, like a defensive player's mentality? Or am I overrating that? I don't know. The last time I played defense was I think seventh or eighth grade and I got to play defensive end. I enjoyed it not as much as I enjoyed quarterback. I did relish the opportunities to hit people. They were few, but when they popped up it was, I enjoyed that. But when you would throw an interception, you wanted to make the tackle. There was part of me that did. And you know, in some of that, and I certainly, if there's young quarterbacks out there that I'm talking to, some of that takes a toll, right? Yeah. And there's part of being a quarterback that you've got to play the next play. But can you do what Peyton did and just go into a fetal position? I'm not sure Peyton went to a fetal position. Well, he went down. He wasn't going to try to make a tackle there. Yeah. I played the way I played. I'm not sure if I could have done it anyway else. When you look at the game, it used to be that college and the pros were very different. Now, the NFL has taken a lot of what college football does. Are they still doing that? That what you run offensively is what a lot of these NFL teams are doing or making the transition easier for these quarterbacks to take your like, you know, Cam Newton. They Carolina took his system at Auburn just to make it easier, you know, the transition. There's a couple of questions there. One, the transition of quarterbacks from college to the NFL, which which can be, you know, can be a tough one. I know how I was trained at Stanford with Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw and Greg Roman was a was an incredible training ground to come into an NFL and run, you know, a Bruce Arians offense and handle some sophistication in the run game and in the past game. I do think franchises need to be very honest about what their quarterbacks need, especially rookie quarterbacks because it's a lot. It's a lot on a young man's plate. And it's a tough position, right? A really tough position. And then as far as the constant evolution of offense is, I do think college because of the the breadth and at all levels, you know, you know, especially FCS and then FBS, people try stuff, right? They do. It's it's almost like a Petrie dish for offense. And I know part of what what I enjoyed my last year playing the NFL with Nick Siriani and Frank Reich, because we'd watch we'd watch film of what Iowa State was doing in the RPO game and install the what we thought we could we could do well. Yeah, absolutely. You look, you've got to look for an edge on offense, right? If you get too stagnant, you die. And I think that'll always happen. I think I think that'll continue to happen where college is a bit of a bit of a try it out area. What role did your wife play in your decision to retire? Oh, I retired and she she was six, maybe seven months pregnant with our eldest. And she was loving being pregnant. And one I felt supported by her, no matter what, you know, through it all. And so she was just there to support. I didn't I didn't feel alone through it and helpful, helpful. But you run it by, you know, you're it's going to be a big weekend. You were going to get to that Sunday and hold a press conference, and then Saturday at Leaks. Yeah, what was it like when you came home after Saturday's game? Well, what her birth her 30th birthday party was that was the weekend before and she's she's accused me ever since of hijacking her birthday party to tell our family who came into town and our close friends that like it was done. So I get to live with that for the rest of my life and our relationship. Sorry, honey. And then that weekend, I remember, I, you know, I want to say she used to she used to scooter like take the the electric scooters from our condo in Indianapolis to Lucas Oil Stadium, because it's right there downtown. And so she was, you know, she wasn't she wasn't going to go to the game. She wasn't playing. It was the preseason game. Chuck Pagano was on the other sideline as the as the coordinator, I think for the Bears, maybe was team. Yeah, is that right? Thanks. Thank you, Paul. I'm very disappointed you did not do my impression, which is which is I may I may accuse it's an act of softness, perhaps for not doing it. But she was late to the game. So she got on a scooter to get there, which she realized the news broke is like, oh, shoot, I got to get there and support and support. It was a line scooter. They're all over in San Francisco. They're readily available public transportation. It was about 45 minutes to get down here down 20 pounds for my playing weight. Glad to be in charge of Stanford Cardinal football go red. I did ask him if he was going to do the impersonation. She goes, I don't know. I probably should answer such a nice guy. He can still palm my face. And then I said, no, no, no, you got to do it. You know, it's a tradition unlike any other. I don't know if there's a big market out there for Andrew Luck impersonators here. Like Frank Calliando is probably not going to do one. Yes, Paul, when Andrew came back and took over his Stanford football GM, I got to bring it back out again. So thank you. Nobody was more excited to see you back in mainstream America than Paulie. Good luck with the role there. Thank you. And can you get fired? Sure, you can. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. I don't want that to happen. I don't know who's your boss. My boss is our athletic director. Oh, okay. He's fantastic. But yes, he can fire me. I got we got to perform. I know. Sounds like something you would say. Gotta perform before at least seven wins. Mall house. Is Andrew Luck. Thank you. I appreciate it. It's a pleasure. Not a bad Saturday. Nice guys. We'll take a break. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the iHeart radio app search FSR to listen live. Final hour of the final show this Super Bowl week here in San Francisco. Again, thank you to the San Francisco Giants for their hospitality and all the great crowds who have shown up early and often here in well, it's the China Basin. It's McCovey Cove on the other side of McCovey Cove. We'll talk to CD Lamb of the Cowboys also Chris Collins worth Mike Tarrico. They'll be calling Super Bowl 60 all of that coming up here in the final hour of the program 877 3dp show. Try to sneak in a couple more phone calls. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock or the NBC Sports Network, Matthew Stafford became the oldest first time MVP winner in NFL history. YA Tittle won the 1963 MVP and he was 272 days younger than Matthew Stafford. Also, this Super Bowl, we have a running group coming through here. Hi guys. That bad boy and he is blasting like us. They're getting ready for Sunday. Super Bowl 60 will be the second Super Bowl hosted at Levi's Stadium. The Broncos beat the Panthers 24 10 Todd. Yeah, they did. Yeah, seven sacks, four takeaways. If Cam Newton had won that Super Bowl, would he be an MVP or would he be he was an MVP? Would he be a Hall of Famer? Because I don't he's up through the Hall of Fame first time next year. I don't think he's going to be a Hall of Famer. He had seven really good years, but an MVP and a Super Bowl appearance. Yes, Mark. I feel like him and Matt Ryan in the same category, like a Super Bowl win would have really helped their case for the Hall of Fame. Matt's got more Pro Bowls. He had more sustained goodness, greatness than Cam did. Cam's highlight, you know, the big stat is rushing touchdowns. But I think Josh Allen's already surpassed that. And I thought, you know, if you get to 80 touchdowns rushing. Yeah, Paulie. Cam also had almost 6000 yards rushing and in a not long, long career. That's one of those more designed runs probably would have helped him. But I go back to that season opener, the following year where Carolina plays Denver and I'm down on the field because we were doing football night in America and the Broncos beat the hell out of Cam Newton. Like it was, I don't want to go as far as say cheap shots, but man, you could have read into it. They hit him and hit him often. And it's, you know, I don't care how big you are. And if you're around Cam, you go, damn, he played quarterback. But still, these guys are coming at you all different angles and they pounded him in that game. Yes, Paulie. I'm looking at some numbers, it's a metrics and it doesn't appear that Cam would make the Hall of Fame. But there has to be some type of designation. Like man, that guy was a handful for a while. I don't know if that's an actual award, but there was about a four year window where he was a handful to deal with. And he had one of the great until Jaden Daniels, he had maybe the greatest rookie season in Carolina, you know, with the hope of Steve Smith. Yeah, it's like having one of the most dominant seasons of all time isn't enough, but it kind of feels like it should be. But maybe not. You know, it's like the his window maybe wasn't long enough. Yeah. You know, which feels unfair because he was so good in that window. But also we look at quarterback and you have to have kind of like 10 years. And if Cam had seven really good, I mean, it just feels like at that position, we expect more out of you than a running back or any other position. Yes, he doesn't seem to get any injury benefit of doubt where there are some, I mean, he was hurt for a lot of his career. And there's a lot of people that are like, man, if it wasn't for injuries, he would have been better. Cam doesn't get that same benefit of the doubt of it's too bad he was injured so much because he was great. But he didn't get the career ending injury like Terrell Davis, that you if Cam Newton got injured after seven years, I wonder if they grade him differently. Who will win the MVP next season? In case you're wondering, I got the odds before we get to CD lamb. Marvin, I'll start with you. Best odds to win the MVP next year. Josh Allen. Bloop. Wow. Second best odds to win MVP. Paul Patrick Mahomes. No, Todd. Bo Nix is coming back. No. Obviously, Justin Herbert. It's Lamar Jackson. Wow. Then you have Mahomes, Herbert, and Burrow, and Drake May all with the same odds. I bet you that list, maybe Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, I bet they've been top three. Yeah. For the last 10 years. Yeah, you're right. CD lamb stopped by yesterday after the show, joining us on behalf of Old Spice, and I started the interview by saying you look like a million bucks. Do you have a million bucks of jewelry on today? I don't know. I don't. I wish I did. What's the most expensive thing you got on you? Probably my watch, but we don't have to go into numbers. Now you got the teeth match in the earrings. Man. You know, expensive taste a little bit. I feel like it was worth it a little bit. Yeah. I smile a lot. I want to show my teeth. I don't think I could get by with that. No, it's okay. I'll wear it for the both of us. Yeah. I was curious about the competitiveness of the flag football game. Honestly, so this is how it goes. Like obviously, it's going to be a long game. We realized it was 12 minutes, four quarters, 12 minutes per quarter. Right? Yeah. It was a running clock. The clock goes on, but it wasn't moving as fast. So we like, all right, we're going to be here a while. I feel like a real football game, you know, and then it started to pick up as you realize it started to pick up after halftime. So the first two quarters is like kind of methodical in a way, but then things, the game started picking up after the, in the second half. Who is the most competitive out there? As far as team or Claire? Oh, everybody on the NFC. I know that for a fact. I feel like we started locking in. Really? Yeah. They got seriously towards the end. Like once the fourth quarter began, everyone was like, all right now, let's go in. Looks like that gave a speech, didn't it? It's a good time. You always do. So the pride takes over of the NFC versus the NFC? Yeah, I feel like it does. The NFC, they just, they just can't pull it off. It's all them though, you know, good, good to have you to come compete, do it a great, you know, bond with us. But at the end of the day, the NFC, you know, we control traffic. Are you rooting then for Seattle because they're the NFC in the Super Bowl? No, that doesn't go the same way as the Pro Bowls. Do you care who wins? Honestly? No, I don't. But congrats to them though, because obviously they worked so hard to be here. And obviously I wish me and my team was there. So like, there's a bit of jealousy, you know, but they again, they deserve it. They worked hard. They stay healthy. They did everything they need to do throughout the season. So congrats to whoever wins and whoever loses. I know it feels pretty bad, but it's good to be here. Is there a defensive back that gives you trouble? Me trouble? No. Nobody? No, but I will say it's like, there's a lot of good DBS out there. You know, you got Pass or Tain, you got Denzel Ward, you got Derrick Stingley, you got Garza of that nature, you got Tariq Woodland, who's now in the Super Bowl, Christian Gonzalez. I named all that. If you realize I named a lot of AFC DBS, I feel like they're pretty nice. But nobody gave you? No. No. No. Not possible. I won't say not possible. It's not probable. Danny, these guys talk to you? Yeah, I mean, they have a couple, we have a couple of chitchats. It's nothing crazy. It's like, you got to give me some work. You're not giving me nothing. You know, that's all it is. It'd be short and brief, you know, like, let's get to it. Like, I'm bored, you know, like. Can you let our audience know what it's like, though, to be a cowboy where you're the most famous franchise? Right. Everything you do is under a microscope. During the game, after the game, when, you know, social life, all of that? Yeah, it's a bit unique. I feel like it's one of one. It's something that you much more have to experience than I can give you the experience. You know, like, for me, it's gonna be much different than anyone else because I feel like obviously the I'm living on a microscope and I feel like everything that I do is emphasized a lot. Right. So, I mean, you get used to it as you as you continue to to build on the culture, understand what's going on, the scenery, the team, you're gonna feel for how we do things. But man, it's tough. It's almost like, I don't really know, you walk outside your house and everyone's already outside your house, winning you to come out. It's almost like an expected appearance. You know, so for us, there's expectation that's built off the history that we've had and we got to uphold. So, I feel like for us, the pressure's on every single time that we line up or that we're continuing to get the band together to work towards the championship. So, everything's gonna be overemphasized. We play good. It's the greatest day on earth. We play bad. It's the worst day you can have in your life. You know, so I feel like for us, you've got to keep that even line, stay neutral and just enjoy it because, I mean, you don't get really too many experiences how you get in Dallas. Are you guys like the Kardashians of the NFL? That's a unique comparison. And if so, who are you? See, I can't just give myself a comparison of a woman, right? Is that... Well, no, just the pop you like. Are you Kim? Are you famous? I might be, no, Dax, Kim. Kim is the most famous one, right? Yeah. So, who's Chloe or... Chloe or... I go Kylie. I'm Kylie. Oh, you're Kylie. You know, I see... Who are you mistaken for? For... People think you're somebody else. Every now and then. Not really now and though. Who do you... Who do you... Who do you wish to take? ASAP. Yeah, I've heard that all through high school. Playboy Cardi. Playboy Cardi. Oh, a little bit. A little bit. I've heard Young Thug in high school, ASAP College. I guess as I grow up, I change people. But that's not bad. I mean, I guess it's a little good. ASAP. Yeah, I mean... He's a good-looking guy. No, no crazy, you know? Appreciate that. It's C.D. Lam joining us on behalf of Old Spice, the new... Absolutely. Cologne and Fuse. Do you know... Let me hear the picture. You're so... I'm ready. I'm ready. I've been practicing for this. You're nervous. You're more nervous with this. No, there's someone here that's a little more nervous than me. Okay, okay. All right, here you go. Okay, so listen. The first thing... Once again, here's C.D. Lam on behalf of Old Spice. Wait. We got hecklers. They're seagulls. Wow. Okay, are you gonna give it to me again? Okay, here we go. Okay. All right, here we go. Okay, man. The Cowboys C.D. Lam joins us on behalf of Old Spice and their new Cologne and Fuse. Absolutely. The first thing you notice about someone, right, is how they smell. Like, it's gonna take over a room, right? So Old Spice, New Spice, Alchemist, Deodorant. It helps you smell like you're wearing an expensive cologne. Like, that's for me. I love to smell good. Everyone knows that. So when I'm walking out the house, I want to feel fresh. I want to feel inviting. Like, I want people, you know? So for me, it's just using... You see my baby right here? I have my cashmere Vanilla Wood Cologne and Fuse Deodorant right here. You guys should try it. Give it a try. There you go. Okay. I'm gonna break that over. There you go. Thank you. Yeah. So good about that one. I could see you doing movies. I can. I would love to. I'll let it try. Honestly, I could see it in my future. Okay. Like, action hero? Yeah. Little drama, little suspense. Romance? I could be that. I could be that. I could be very romantic. Okay. I just want to make sure. How close are the Cowboys to being in a game like this? I feel like we're very close. We just got to... We got to put the pieces together, right? As we know our offense was fine. Our defense wasn't as good. But once we combine those two things, we got a couple pieces that we need to bring back, offensively. And I'm pretty sure everybody here knows exactly who I'm talking about. But, yeah, get our defense together. Is George coming back? He has no choice. I say that. Oh. It's my pick. But you're not gonna give up any... You're not gonna defer any of your money or restructure to bring George in. I mean, if it's necessary. Oh. Honestly. Okay. I'm pretty... I'm pretty good. But I know he's gonna get every opinion that he deserves here in Dallas. When's the last time you talked to Micah Parsons? Yesterday. Oh. And Micah is... And so, I mean, he was here at the Pro Bowl. So we were here... We were here since Saturday. I want to say, what's today? I lose shock a day. Thursday. Oh, wow. We were here for some time, huh? Okay. Wait, what's been going on these other days? It's been a lot of Pro Bowl work, just practice, communicating with the guys, hotel movements. It's been a lot. It's been a lot. Okay. But it's been a great time. It's been a great experience. And yeah, I was with Micah. You know, he's on his little scooter and he's real active. I've never seen someone so active and so energetic and a problem on a scooter. He got kicked off the field. Yeah. Because he wanted to get on the field and score a touchdown. You know what? It's Micah. It's Micah. You're a star and we love watching you play. Appreciate it. Not a Cowboy fan, though. It's all right. Yeah. I mean, but I know, like, we know. Right. Yeah. It's all right. It's safe here. I mean, a lot of people that say they're not Cowboys fans, which is cool. And I mean, everybody has their fair share of boats, right? Like everybody has a different team. Well, I can't root for anybody. I got to be neutral. Overall, so you don't have... No, I don't have a team. I feel like you do. You just don't have a say. No, I do not. You guys have to. Now, they all have teams. Okay, okay, okay. Bronco, Patriot, Bear, Niners. How long? Who is the Patriot fan here? How long? Man, that's an interesting question. As soon as I found it to be really funny to be the Patriots fan, so probably 18 years, I guess. Okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. He just didn't jump on the band. Okay, that's what I was assuming because, I mean, Tom has been doing a great job for some time. Yeah. Mine, too. Thanks for joining us. No, my pleasure. Thanks again. Good luck, yeah. And, you know, you got it down. You know, did you practice in front of the mirror today with the Old Spice? A little bit. I had a little rehearsal this morning. That's the way to do it. It's just like a game plan. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's just like practice. You can't go with your game plan and not practice it and be as confident. So... Do you wear cologne on the field when you play? No. I mean, I wear this. Oh, you wear the Old Spice? I wear this and I smell like I do. I don't want to write buying. So they can... They get a whiff of you as you run by them. Exactly. You get it. You picking up when I'm putting down. No, I got it. Oh, I got it. Yeah, I'm picking it up. I'm picking it up. Besides, I'm picking it up. Like, I'm too old to... No, you're fine. ...like, pick it up. Yeah, you're happy. You're nice to the toss. A little picking it up. He's CD Lamb of the Cowboys joining us on behalf of Old Spice. He was fun. He was surprisingly animated and he looks like a star. Like, he had the teeth and he had the jewelry in his ears and then he decked out with a watch. It came out wearing sweatpants. It was like, look how awesome this guy is. And the fact that he said he'd restructure his contract, if it meant George Pickens could come back, but he was fun. He is a future star out of football. This is an I Heart podcast.