Trash Taste Podcast

LADYBEARD IS BACK!! (ft. Ladybeard) | Trash Taste #283

138 min
Nov 21, 20255 months ago
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Summary

Ladybeard returns to Trash Taste to discuss his music group Baby Beard, international touring experiences, anime voice acting, and the implications of AI on creative industries. The conversation spans personal anecdotes about Japanese culture, family heirlooms, and broader concerns about AI-driven economic bubbles affecting entertainment and employment.

Insights
  • AI-generated content is creating a sustainability crisis in creative industries, with companies like OpenAI spending $2.25 to generate $1 in revenue, suggesting an unsustainable bubble similar to the dot-com crash
  • Live experiences and human connection are becoming premium commodities as AI-generated slop proliferates, making touring and in-person performances increasingly valuable for creators
  • Established voice actors face minimal short-term AI risk, but entry-level roles for new talent are being displaced by AI, creating a generational employment crisis in voice acting
  • The concentration of market value in seven mega-cap tech companies (representing ~30% of S&P 500) creates systemic risk if the AI bubble bursts, threatening retirement savings across the economy
  • Content creators are shifting toward authenticity and human-centric production as a differentiator, with pride in 'fully human production' becoming a marketing advantage
Trends
AI-generated content saturation driving demand for verified human-created media as a premium categoryLive entertainment and touring becoming more economically valuable as digital content becomes commoditizedTech industry consolidation creating systemic financial risk concentrated in 7 companiesVoice acting industry bifurcation between established professionals (safe) and entry-level talent (displaced by AI)Creator economy shift from passive content consumption to community-based, local experiences (cafe culture, tight-knit communities)TikTok and short-form video dominance requiring visual stimulation and running-at-camera tactics for engagementGenerational shift in alcohol consumption and lifestyle priorities post-age 30, affecting entertainment industry planningJapanese domestic tourism model (prefecture-specific branding) as successful alternative to mass-market approachesAnime and voice acting remaining closed-off, gatekept industries requiring insider access and relationship-buildingSustainability concerns in AI infrastructure (water, electricity consumption) creating environmental cost questions
Topics
AI-Generated Content Economics and SustainabilityVoice Acting Industry Disruption by AITech Sector Bubble and Market Concentration RiskLive Entertainment vs. Digital Content ValueAnime Production and Voice DirectionInternational Touring and Creator BurnoutTikTok Algorithm and Content StrategyJapanese Cultural Tourism and Regional BrandingFamily Heirlooms and Generational Wealth TransferAsian Parenting Styles and Emotional ExpressionAI Regulation and Creative Industry PolicyContent Creator Long-Term Career PlanningStreaming Service Competition and Anime DistributionProfessional Wrestling and Combat Sports EntertainmentRetirement Planning for Content Creators
Companies
OpenAI
Discussed as spending $2.25 to generate $1 in revenue, exemplifying unsustainable AI economics and bubble dynamics
Netflix
Mentioned regarding anime licensing restrictions in Japan and attempted sumo documentary production blocked by sumo a...
YouTube
Discussed for algorithm changes, ad placement issues, ad blocker view counting, and shorts strategy affecting creator...
TikTok
Analyzed for algorithm engagement tactics, visual stimulation requirements, and platform dominance in short-form video
Disney
Referenced for attempting to use AI actors, raising concerns about AI replacing human talent in entertainment
Nvidia
Mentioned as investor in OpenAI and builder of AI data centers, part of circular investment ecosystem
NHK
Referenced as required Japanese regulatory body for sumo-related media production and content approval
DDT Pro Wrestling
Discussed as unhinged wrestling promotion where Ladybeard performed, known for absurdist match concepts
Crunchyroll
Mentioned as anime streaming service blocked in Japan, requiring VPN access for viewers
Google
Discussed regarding search results, AI summaries, and concentration as top-2 company in S&P 500
People
Ladybeard
Returning guest discussing music group, international touring, anime voice direction for 'Bam', and wrestling background
Joey
Host discussing South Africa travel experiences, family heirlooms, and AI economic concerns
Connor
Host discussing Welsh heritage, family history, and anime/video game consumption patterns
Aki
Host discussing Asian parenting styles, Japanese family business heritage (soy sauce company), and anime production
Tegeshita
World champion wrestler who performed chopping demonstration with Ladybeard during wrestling video collaboration
Fujiwara Tatsuya
Discussed as appearing in multiple Japanese recruitment company advertisements, previously in 'Death Note' and 'Kaiji'
Mal
Deceased Australian friend who rode a pink girls' bicycle in Japan as protest against perceived police discrimination
Endigo
Music producer creating tracks for Baby Beard's new album 'Oma Kase'
Marmalade
Designer of Ladybeard's costumes and dance instructor for maid cafe performance in Australia
Quotes
"I think the market will crash way before that happens. Because this is all like a bubble right now."
LadybeardAI economics discussion
"Open AI spends about $2 to make $2.25 to make $1. And that's pretty what they're willing to say publicly."
JoeyAI sustainability discussion
"The joy of just sitting. I'm enjoying a good side of your phenomenal book."
ConnorAging and lifestyle discussion
"Anime and voice acting is very much a human-to-human type business. Everyone wants to know the human behind the voice."
AkiAI impact on voice acting
"I think you have this like unstoppable energy force. I have a Chernobyl. That's what I named my daughter. Chernobyl beard."
LadybeardCreative energy discussion
Full Transcript
Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm joined once again by the boys and a returning guest who you've all been waiting for. It's Lady... Oh! Trash Tasty's has a guest! She's a man! Oh my God! Oh my God! Yes! This is out of control! This isn't! This isn't! You know what? I still hear you from last episode. Yeah, yeah. In my head. The sound is never left. I don't know why we need coffee this time. Yeah, we're really doing it. It's the real thing, we've been here for four years. Four long years. Four long years. That's one of the whole political leader. It's been one political leader that's like, saw your ass, how's it going? Good, good. I've been parasocially keeping up with you. You know, I say you're a TikTok. Your dances are amazing. It's cool. It's my kind of you. You're doing your amazing thing, man. It's cool. I just want to say that you have not changed. You're killing it. You're still doing the things I do. Last time you came here was the old studio, right? It was the old studio. Well, the studio is still carrying your scars from the last studio. If you look at the board right there, you can see the dance there that's still- On your silver platter. Yeah, on the silver platter. That's cool. Yeah, you knocked over the set and it fell to the ground. I didn't dance with it. You have never looked over the set. That was a highlight of my career. Really? It's growing on set. I do apologize for the inconvenience course, but also just let me say, thank you so much for having me on again. Thank you. So the last one, since the last one, like every convention I've done, just all the fans have been like, you were so good on Trash Taste. I love you on Trash Taste. Oh, really? Can't we still get on Trash Taste? Hell yeah. It's been amazing, man. So thank you guys for having me on. A giant awareness campaign for me. I appreciate it. No, no, no, no, no. Dude, you're just a fun fucking guy to have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are superstars. You guys are superstars. We've got an awareness with or without us. Yeah. We are lucky to have you on and go. Oh, look at the amount of love in this room, dear friends. This is remarkable. This is a thing of beauty. This is four men in a room expressing mutual affection. That's what's happening. That's as it should be. How it should be. I love a lot of the Trash Taste episodes. I can remember the most things ever said in the episode from yours, because every five minutes, you would just say something, a fucking unhinged. You were like, I voiced in back and out. I did? Oh, fuck. You were like, yeah, my bathroom towel has this. I never shower curtain. Oh, the shower curtain. I have an update for the shower curtain. All right. First things first, if you have not watched the first episode of Ladybeard on Trash Taste for 2021, you need to go and watch that. Yeah. It's a re-tresher. Yeah. So go check that out. Then you'll know context for everything we're about to talk about. All right, my shower curtain. There's an update on my shower curtain. Okay, okay. Please do tell us. Since last time you guys have moved studios and I too have moved apartments. So I'm now in a different locale from last time. Congratulations. Different thank you. I think it's a downgrade to be honest. But new apartment, new bathroom, new setup. Yeah. Shower curtain has mold on it now. No. New bathroom is badly ventilated. I can't keep the moisture out of there. Shower curtain has got mold on it. Which you're South African? One of the South African. One of the came with the apartment. No, no, no, the South African one, of course. So the whole like bottom bit Southern hemisphere. It's kind of like. Folkland Islands, black mold. That's quite an improvement. That's right. Would you rather British or black mold? Exactly. The British bring black puddings. Yeah. Which is good. They just mean black puddings. Black puddings is not bad. Is black pudding popular in Australia? I like it. I've never, wait. It doesn't sound like it's popular in Australia. I've never seen it being sold in Australia. Do they sell it or do you like make it? I think they sell it in bags at the supermarket. You get a black one. You've never had one like a pub? No. I've never seen it at a pub. Black puddings around the place. You got to try it out. So anyway, you have mold on your shower curtain. So what's happened to it? What's happened to it? Why? You can't see things properly anymore, can you? I mean, I still have it. I definitely still have it. Are you vastoring in mold? Yeah, you should probably get rid of it. It's like a health hazard. You need to get rid of it. I hate to be. Because all the memories attached to my shower curtain. How can I replace her? I think you'll remember it when you have... Next time you have bronchitis. You should see what was the silly name that you always loved mentioning. Blurplurtine. Blurplurtine. That's it, yeah. And it turns out that's not the way you say it. Oh, really? I think correct pronunciation is bloomfontein. Oh, actually. Because the South African at a convention came up to me and was all like, you said the name of their city wrong. Until you had to say it, it's bloomfontein. That's how you say it. Oh, so it's like way more normal than what you said. Blurplurinein. My mind is more fun. So we must admit, we can all call it Blurplurinein. You're much better. The name and culture even proved on it. Yeah, well, thank you. I appreciate that. But now, here's another update. I explained last time how, just for anyone who missed it, I have a shower curtain with a map of the world on it. It's a very, very low quality map of the world. Things are spelt wrongly. Things are drawn in the wrong place. It's a terrible map. But now, with the new layout of the bathroom, when I'm spending time in the bathroom, because the restructuring of the space I no longer stare at the bottom of Africa. I now get to spend time staring at my favorite US state, Inklaoma. Okay. Inklaoma. Inklaoma. Is that how it's spelled? That's how it's spelled. Inklaoma. Inklaoma. It's a pretty good map of the world if it's also about the state breakdown. But incorrect. Yeah. Everything's incorrect. I'd love to imagine there was somebody out there who was like, I'm going to design a map of the world, but didn't quite know the world. And I got a thing. They're like Madagascar? That's a movie. No, that's a movie. It's a grisky. It's like the Google translate equivalent of a map. No, no, you don't want you, they put the Google translate and they put it in the language, multiple languages. Yeah, and then they translate it into Latin, English. It's like that. Inklaoma. Inklaoma. So that's good fun. It's funny. It's funny because I've actually, the whole South Africa thing, I've been to South Africa twice in a while. I wanted to talk about your African adventures now. We can have a big in depth. Tell me about, tell me about Africa. Now I know, now I know. Joey's colonial share. Joey and his South Africa adventures. Joey's got one of those old school safari. Yeah. Tell me how they, up to the rhinoceros. Undiscovered lands. Yeah, no, I went to South Africa twice since then. And you, you kind of like preemptively like, kind of set the standards for what to expect in South Africa. So I went to Johannesburg and Cape Town. Really? Yeah. Tell me about your South African experience. Dude, it was fucking awesome. Yes. I love it. Really? I'm not. This makes me so excited about the idea. Wait, wait, wait. I remember the first episode you're on, we talked about, the only thing I remember so much is we talked about South Africa so much. We had a big South Africa. Because it was like on the, on the map of the world. Yeah. So I had this, I had this pre-scriptive notion that you'd like, you're like, you've been to South Africa so many times. And you were like trying to like sell me on it. No, I'm fascinated by the place. You need to go now. Why do I want to go? Why? I think the con that you're, that you did. At least one of them. I think I was contacting them and we were talking to them, but it hasn't happened yet. It's the same convention. So they do it twice in Germany. Now they have to. Yes. They have to. Yeah. From the lips of a sea dog. South Africa convention. It would be uncouth. Of the me too, I think. You would love Cape Town too. Cape Town is so dope. Tell me about Cape Town. What happens on the Cape? Cape Town. What happens on the Cape? They call it the Cape. The Cape. Cape Town CT, that's how they call it. Yeah. CT sounds like a computer program. CT, CT. Or CT dot? It's like legitimately some of the nicest people I've ever met at this convention. One of my favorite conventions I've been to, honestly. Yeah. So I would highly, I tried to convince these boys to go, but they were like, we're not going to be on a plane for 20 hours. What's wrong with a plane for 20 hours? You could read a book. I used to think I was invited. Joey, I'm not as cool this year. They don't know. If you sit on camera right now, I want to go to the Cape Town convention next year. They will invite you. I don't want to do that to them. They want to put a lot of pressure on them. That would be uncouth of me to do that. Why don't we all take a moment, Sarah Connor, and see how he deals with this. No, no, no, no, I don't want this. I don't want this. I don't like this. Are you saying you don't want to go to South Africa? Oh, no! I do, but go to South Africa. I do want to go. I don't know when or where or which place. Cape Town. Well, dear organizers of the South African convention. I feel the gauntlet's been thrown down. Is there a short flight that is in 20 plus hours? No, not really. Not really. It's 20 hours. Fuck. Why don't you organize an itinerary between here and there, and that way you can take steps across the world on your way to South Africa. Yeah, because I went to Madagascar on my way. This is like my own JoJo's adventure. Me and the boys. It's part three. Yeah, we do part three. Yeah, start in Egypt this time. Make your way down. I'll cycle it. Yeah, you'll cycle from Egypt to South Africa. Cycle all of Africa. How long will it take? Not that long. It's like one of the biggest concerts. You might want to be careful that old Saharan desert that's feeling. That's my wheels stuck in a bit of sand. I don't know how good signal is over there. You know, you could ride it on a tricycle. Why does that make it? It's harder. Yeah. This sounds like a lady. You do it for charity. That's your gimmick. This is a lady being. No, no, no. This is a lady being. You want to do on a children's tricycle. And then you break out and dance every five seconds. Maybe I should dance in every nation of Africa. It's what the world needs to heal right now. I might have a children's bicycle story, which is good fun. There's I had an old friend. Okay. An old friend from Australia who lived in Japan. He came in the 80s or something. He is now no longer with us. May he rest in peace. But this dude, his name was Mal. He was the funniest person I've ever met in my life. But he did this. So he lived out in, I think Ibaraki and towards the end of his life. And he got upset because he felt the police in Ibaraki would discriminate against him as the only foreigner. So in order to kind of make a point of the fact he felt as being discriminated against, he's what he did. He went out of the bike store and he bought like a bright pink little girl's bicycle. And he registered it to himself. So it's his bike legally and everything. And he would ride it around his village. So this 50 year old Aussie man, he had very sensitive eyes whilst he was always wearing big black sunglasses and long white hair. So riding his little pink girls bike, his knees would have been coming up by his head every pedal, right? He rode around the village and saw the corpse, of course the cop see him and they're like, you're chopped on my head. And they stop him and they're like, whose bike is this? He's like, well, it's my bike. And they're like, I will see you about that. And they do that gimmick where they, you know, they get your number and they call you for a check registration. So they'd be like, yes, there's a foreigner with a little girl's bike. The registration is five, eight, nine, two, six. Pretty confident. It's not going to be this for it as. It's his bike. More than one. More than one. That's so sick. That was his gimmick. And he be like, that's right. Coppers. And he goes on his tiny girl's bike. Oh my God. Why would he subject himself to all of this? He was the last bit of retaliation. Right? He was just like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to go out doing what I love. He was a practical prankster and he was very good at practical pranks. So an awesome. Yeah. Very, very Queensland. Oh, Queensland. Yeah. Queensland. Awesome. One thing I can't remember last time on the episode. If you have since joined a new group. It's not my group, baby beard. You can see it on my on my skirt here. This is our name on it. Our print on it. Baby beard. Last time when you were on a different group. No, I announced baby beard when I was. Oh, that's right. It's that announcement. We've been doing shows all over the world. Left and right. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you very much. It's a good time. Hey, you can go check out my group, baby beard. I have a lady beard. Lady beard, underscore Japan. My group is baby beard. Me and two Japanese idols at baby beard underscore Japan. Our new single macho is on the internet now. You can go to the internet. Watch the video stream the song from our upcoming album. Oh my God. You're not going to get it. Damn. Here we are. There's us on the internet. There you are. Here we are. When's your next show? I get on a plane tomorrow to the United States. Oh, that's my next show. To Iklahoma. Sadly, not to Iklahoma, but Iklahoma conventions. Hey, we're interested in baby beard. That's so cool. That's so sad. So we've been doing, we've been going here, there and everywhere. As we have our album coming out soon. Mostly America you've been touring or all of the world. Since our last episode, we've done the whole thing. We did in Australia too, last year. We're doing the America a lot this year. We've been to Mexico, we've been to Chile, we've been to Europe a bunch of times. We have more Europe coming up next year. It's on my door. That sounds like a long flight. That's good. You have an adversity to long flights. It's just over 15 hours is asking something of man. I think, yeah. You don't think so? I quite enjoy the long flight. Really? How do you spend a long flight? Why do you enjoy the long flight? They explain to me the process. I'll tell you why. Because when you're not on a long flight, when you're in your daily life, you get out of bed and there's things to do. There's things to do. Okay, I gotta do some things. Here's the thing, another. I agree, I agree. When you're on the plane, you don't have things to do. No internet, you can't be messed with. And now there's no things to do for 15 hours. What do you do to pass the time on the plane? So I used to be a fan of the, I'll watch the film on the plane. I watched a lot of films on the plane. Would you watch bad films or would you always try and watch a good film? No, particularly watch bad films. Because you can't concentrate on a good film on the plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. A bit of like Jason Statham and a shark. Exactly, exactly. I'm psyching myself up, meat or fish, fuck. It's all the transporter movies, one after the other. And then I shifted over to the podcast on the plane. So your podcast experience is a good experience. You can kind of nod off and you can come back and you're still with your friends. And now recently I've gotten into just sitting. Oh, you're all dog-flagged now. I understand, because I lately have been doing a thing where I'll get on the plane. For the first three hours or so, nothing. Just kind of sit. Really? Yeah, I don't know. I'll bring things on the plane, like steam deck, stuff on my phone, but I'll just, nothing. Yeah, my limit's about two hours. I do it for two hours. Two hours of doing nothing. Yeah, it's just two hours. It's getting more though. I'm finding myself doing it more. And maybe that's why I'm not a fan of the plus 15 or 20 hours. Mainly layovers. Yeah, okay, layovers are. Cause like if it was 20 hours straight, wouldn't be great. But I think I could at least get over it because I don't have to stress about being somewhere or my bag's gonna make it, these kind of things. I feel like annoying. Or going through, sometimes you stop at an airport and you still have to go through customs or like, what do you call it? Security. Security and passport control. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck me. I just wanna relax and I have to fucking go through all this shit. Yeah, that's true. Yes, you do. Sorry, I just feel like I'm... Are you okay? What's wrong with Connor? What's going on? Easy, easy. He's been traveling a lot, you know. I'm so good at traveling with ladybeard. Why don't you sit up straight? Let's sit up straight. Here we go. We'll get some air in our lungs. Can I make my chair higher? Yes, you can. No, I can't. Thanks, capacity. Oh, okay, okay. All right. We'll sit up straight. We have some air in our lungs. Let's take a deep breath. Is this what you do before a show? How do you thank yourself? It's not. It's what I do to have a conversation with Connor. People view find themselves having deep breath. I'm gonna prepare myself before I talk. They do often have to remind themselves. I was gonna ask if we have like a pre-show routine. I do have a pre-show routine. Oh, you do? Yeah, yeah. But it's very private. And if I explain it, no one else will understand. But I think that's how most pre-show routine is. Exactly, right? It's a personal experience. But you know, in broad terms, you've got to warm up your voice. So you're ready to sing and scream or whatnot. You've got to warm up your body, see where you're gonna dance and all the rest of that. And make sure your costume's done, your makeup is done and everything. Of course, of course. Make sure the girls are all fine. Make sure whatever the plan for the show is well understood by everyone. And then like right before we go on, I'll take a moment by myself. And I'll have my private moment that other people won't be able to understand. I'll go through my ritual. And now it's time to go. Damn, I thought you just showed up and you were like, I'm ready. In the Blade films, Klaid is quoted as saying, I was born ready, mother lover. So that's not what I do. Yeah, you're not played. Yeah, you're not played. Regrettably, I'm not played. I would think you were the one person who would just be ready if I dropped you off. I'm like, before. If you did say to me, okay, hey, there's been an error now. I'd be like, let's go. And I just, because out of us three, I was the only one with a pre-show ritual, I would say. What's yours if you don't mind me asking? I would have my own private time and there'd be two songs that I listened to. And I would just basically need to get the adrenaline pumping, get the adrenaline going. And, you know, and then when I'm at my peak energy, I come out and I'm like, all right, I'm ready. Let's go on stage. Meanwhile, these two, he's probably chowing down a curry before- I'm gonna just like- Curry, priest! I might have a curry. Wow, that was interesting. You say that with disgust. Not with intrigue. I'm pro curry. It just seems to me like an interesting decision. First things first, I'll be honest. I don't know what happens in your show because I wasn't there to see it. So tell me about what you actually do on stage. How would you describe it? It's more- It's like a talk show kind of comedy show game show. So there's no jumping around involved. We would jump around sometimes. There's quite an engaged show, but probably nothing close to what you're doing. No, yeah, I'm not singing and dancing. Yeah, yeah. And then when we had moments where they were like, all right, Gantt's gonna talk. I might zone out for three- Immerse yourself in herbal essences new Moroccan argan oil elixir infused with pure argan oil. Just one drop. Delivers up to 100 hours of hair nourishment with the indulgent scent of a Moroccan garden. Herbal essences new Moroccan argan oil elixir spark quality hair repair without the price tag. Try it now. Herbal essences. Service repair to smoothness, nourishment with the regimen use versus non-conditioning shampoo. 30 seconds and forget that I didn't do the tax thing that I was supposed to do. I'm like, come back. These things happen. Sometimes I do that mid song. Dude, it's so weird how this happens and your mind is like, I'm thinking about something and you just found yourself. I was an autopilot for 20 seconds there. Let's come back in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get back on this. Let's come back to reality for a moment. It's so weird how you can still function though. And you're still doing it. Japanese TV or something, it happens all the time. You have to say, hi, sushi. I'm like, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Yeah, you're just so. Oh, yeah. All the time. But it is interesting, isn't it? How you can, your internal world, it's like your soul leaves your body. It's so weird. It's just being on stage. Sometimes you just, it doesn't feel real almost. Yeah. Especially when you do a lot of shows back to back, maybe I think you get more so because you get really comfortable. But I found that when I, I didn't really do a pre-show or anything. It's kind of eight food. And the moment you're in front of the crowd and you see the energy. Yeah. I feel it's the moment you run onto the stages when your brain like locks. Yeah. 100% of the time you go. 100% right. When I first got to Span, it was very much like that. It was in front, like backstage side of the curtain. I was like, I'd always go through this process with myself going, is there some way I can get out of this? I was like, last five minutes before going on. And I realized I had no choice that I'd go through the curtain or something. Yeah. But the moment when you're on stage, it's like, it's all good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Are you still doing a lot of wrestling stuff as well? COVID-19 changed the whole dynamic. Yeah. So it changed the nature of matches that we're doing. But yeah. I just want to thank you brother for beating the shit out of Jerry in that one video. Oh, you're welcome. Oh yeah. It was beautiful. Yeah, I was gonna say, he really beat the shit out of her. No, it was the mask. I was very happy. It was the mask Luchador. The mask Luchador. Yeah. That was good. That was a good time. Yeah, that was good. It was in Archie Dearest's video where she tries pro wrestling, starring Lady Beard at the multi-covered Luchador. You should go take a look. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't even on your channel. I just remember. Who was the one who was doing wrestling? Yeah. All right. Sure. I mean, it was great until I had like a perfectly Lady Beard sized hand bruise on my chest. It's a very small hand though. I've got little hands. Yeah, but that's what I'm mother fucking. This is like a big thing that is Japan's kind of specific that they love doing the chops. They love the chops. You do the wrestling as well. You got chopped, yeah. Oh my God. By Tegeshita was talking. Yeah. He was now like the world champion. He's amazing. Yeah, he chopped the fucking shit out of me. I remember sitting there for a minute. He's going, boy, boy. You're like, all right. I was hitting him and I was like, it's starting to hurt me more than I think I'm hurting to catch that. You got to condition your hand so you could chop well. But then he did this thing where I remember, I will never forget it. He was like, I'm gonna do 40% right to chop me. And he hit me 40% and I was like, grrrr. The fuck. What a question. Was Tegeshita stationary when he chopped you? Like, was he like standing in front of you and then went bam? Yes, he was stationary. Okay. Lady Beard ran at me at four speed. I didn't run at you. Yes you did. You took a step. There is nothing more terrifying than a six foot bearded man in the dress running at you at full speed. Being like, I'm about to chop you and I can only stand there in the corner. It's like waiting for a truck to hit. And you know, people are always like, man, wrestling's fake. I've learned there is no way to fake the chop. No. It's just pain. It hurts. It is the fakest in the argument of this is the least, hopefully thing that will hurt you the least. But I mean, it's still very much someone smacking the shit out of you. I was writhing on the ground in the video and that was legit. Like I was legitimately like, I'm sorry, Joseph. I'm sorry. Don't be sorry. No, no, no. It was funny. It was funny. It was great content. It was a great content. It was a great take that week that deserved it. It's not been assaulted by a pro wrestler. Not fun at all. I feel lucky that my content is sitting in a room and watching anime for my time. At the end of this episode. I feel like Garth Lungs will collapse. Yeah. This is cool. The greatest request I ever got from a fan was, it was my first ever show on Taiwan after I blew up in Japan. So it's my first international show after blowing up in Japan back in 2014 or something. And we're doing Bupan after the show and this tiny little woman comes up to me and she goes, can I ask for something, please lady beard? I'm like, of course, sweetheart. What is it? It's going to be a hug or a bra of her shoe or something like this. She goes, can you please headbutt me? I'm like, sorry. I want you to headbutt me. So to explain, a pro wrestling headbutt, a pro wrestling headbutt involves taking the crown of your skull and slamming it into the crown of their skull. Just different from martial arts headbutt. So it's bang. What is the reason of doing the crown? That's how we do it in pro wrestling. The pro wrestling is all about, yeah, that's the point. Who can take more before they had enough? That's the objective. So I kind of look at my old manager and I'm like, she wants me to headbutt her. Are we going to get sued? And the manager's like, well, she said she wants it. Everyone can see she said she wants it. Seems fine. And I'm like, okay. So I grabbed this tiny woman and I'm like, she goes, that's not a headbutt. Oh my God. Hell yeah. I'm like, all right, my friend. I nail her. She's like, oh my God. Oh, thank you. It works, man. Did you go from like 1% to 90%? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Oh my God. I went from 110. I was like, she's like, she's like, I didn't headbutt hard enough. I said, well, well this table will be turned. Oh my God. That's so awesome. She didn't want it. She just did it my mercy. Oh my God. I'm probably still holding the scar to this day. I wonder what compelled her. I would love to know what had psyched her up. She's like, I know one thing. Have you never had a moment where you said to yourself, you know what's missing in my life? A headbutt. A headbutt. I can't say that. I know a moment like that. Have you? You have not gone through a process, especially as a younger man. How old are you now? 30 something? 29. 29, okay. Congratulations. So have you not gone through a process, especially in your sort of late teenage years? Yeah, I think I did want someone to. You went through a fight club kind of period. Yeah, I did very much so. I very much did. Yeah, I enjoyed fighting. Yeah. I'm not sure. But I don't think I ever requested a headbutt. Yeah, especially from someone that's probably twice my size. Yeah. Would you want someone who is like, maybe eight foot headbutt you? As a younger individual, yeah. Now you're like, I've had my fill. I've had quite enough for me. Ladies is out on that piece. Sitting quietly on airplanes. Just reflecting. Are you still doing wrestling? Or is it mostly? No, I'm still wrestling. Oh, I'm still wrestling. It's mostly see the ladybeards. Lately it's been mainly the music show. But every time we do a music show, some clown calling himself a pro wrestler comes on stage and takes issue with ladybeards. Right, right. We're starting out before we can finish the show. Of course. Every show. That's the most wrestling I've been doing recently. That's awesome. Let's go on a hang of y'all, bro. Let's go on a hang of y'all. It's just funny. I'm picturing it in my head. They go, you're not a ladybeard. And you come up and you just fucking soup like that. I would love to. I would love to. I feel like my life is not complete without watching one of your shows. So please, if you do want to Tokyo next, please let us know. Absolutely. I would love to. I would love to. Tell you. I'm speaking of conflict and competition. Okay. You boys are both married now. That was a bad, a bad way of leaving. I'm sorry, I'm not saying should. Well, I'm not married yet. Well, I thought you weren't married. I thought you went to Africa. I thought it was a honeymoon. Oh, no, no, no. I proposed in Africa. Oh, congrats. Yeah. But that was a silly, funny way to do this topic. So we got the three stages. Three stages. Married, engaged. Well, I think you should be the ring bearer and come down to his. And then you should come down the aisle way. And coming at Joey with the Luke to God mascot. Slow motion. I've got the ring. Here it is. And then as I'm riding on the ground, he's slowly placing in front of me. I'm in. We'll do it. Hell yeah. It was my first trip to Africa. Joey's going to go, wait. Oh yeah. So that was a silly, snide, funny way to introduce the topic. I apologize. I mean, no offense. No, of course. But I haven't seen you since your proposal. Oh my God. Congratulations. Thank you. It's a beautiful thing, right? Thank you. I'll look at the wall of the algae stuff. You're not a man who's married or interested in marriage? Are you? I'm not. Oh. I'm not married, it's a saying. I imagine Lady Beard has no interest in such trivial things. Well, that's a man, Lady Beard. Lady Beard's run around the world, hair-butting tiny women. I have time to run out. That could have been a proposal. I'm not familiar with the culture. What's the culture of Adelaide? I love you. I love you. There are some parts in Wales where I'm sure that would be prerequisite to marriage. I had a question regarding Wales. Okay, please go ahead. Why is Wales Wales? Okay. What do you mean? It feels like the Vikings got to this side of the UK and they said, we're taking it, we're taking it, we're taking it, last little bit. Ah, I can't be asked. How did Wales come to be? It's because the terrain is such a... Yeah, a very treacherous piece of... For a very long time, the land of Wales is not very useful. It's not very good for farming. It's not very good for... So a lot of the time, there wasn't much interest in it. And it wasn't until, well, I guess the Romans, first of all, took it over. And then they left. And then eventually England took it over. Like 12, I think, 1200? Okay. 1260 something, I think? Right, right. Not too sure. But mainly because there was no fucking point. There wasn't a point of they were great at surviving. It was just there wasn't really much going on there. I imagine it's kind of like Perth. Perth's a beautiful city. I've never been. Oh, it's a lot. Yeah, it's beautiful. But if their war broke out, I feel like Perth, well, actually maybe there's some strategic value in it. But if you were like on land, trying to battle, you'd be like, ah, fucking let him have Perth. So that's how you feel about your home town. Just let him have Wales, can't be bothered. Is there a border line? There is a border. So the Welsh-built border, I've got what it's called. They built a massive land border that you can still kind of see. Okay. So that's what it's called. Oh, look at this. Kai is getting the job done. Look at this. Yeah, we have a, oh my goodness. We have a surgeon now. I think you might need to type in... Bristol Channel. Oh, dear me. The Romans built it to keep Wales. No, no, no, no. I think it English it because they were, Wales were like, they were just awful people. The Welsh were awful people. They were your folks. What'd you talk about? They were great people. No, they were because they had like the longbow. And so the Welsh strategy a lot of the time was shoot the arrows, run away, and back up into the mountains. That's a good strategy though. Yeah. So I did a terrible job of explaining this. That's all right. I'm not very good at my history. That's all right, man. But hang on. Look, it's not fair. Australian history is like four years. So I used to shoot three times away. Yeah. I'm trying to, I'm like 1260, there was a guy called Crew Allen and he's like trying to like get some shit going. There was a man named Crew Allen. Crew Allen. Crew Allen. Crew Allen, yeah. That you're speaking. Yeah. I used to speak Welsh fluently. Yeah, that's amazing. What's Welsh called in Welsh? What's your name? I'm a Welsh company. I thought he was going to say like, what? What? Welsh company. And the language is called Welsh. It's completely different. It sounds nothing like English at all. Like it's all totally different. And there is a very long town name, which you might enjoy. Hit me. You've seen the name of it. I haven't. It's very famous. You have seen the name. Well, why don't we bring the name off first and see if Lady can say the name. You can take a drink of water. You've seen this town. Yeah. I've seen this. Macarole. You've definitely seen this. I have not seen this. No way. Okay. Well, feel free to try and pronounce that. How do you think you pronounce that? Oh dear. Well, now that I know, I don't speak just blank, blank or whatever it's called. It's called... You're not far off. Well, LAD Fair, P-O-W, Gwyneth Paltrow. That's what I'm saying. Go back to all, because that's the full name there. That's the off. So that was like half the name. That was like half the name. Sorry, Gwyneth. All right. Half way. LAD Fair, Wig Wig, Groceries, Hydrogen, Robin Williams, Goggogg Coach. Oh, it's a lance. Yeah, you nailed it actually. Now, are you Welsh? You're Welsh. You're Welsh heritage, man. Yeah. I didn't realize we were saying your birth name. I was just saying that one. It is... It is... It's a language. It's a language. There you go. There you go. Only he can do that. Yeah. The ancient spell. I have to do this. And now the furniture is going to stop flowing away. Yes. It was a public stuff. So your Welsh culture. Yes, please. Tell me about your deep sense of connection to the land and your heritage and those who came before you. 23 of me. You know what I mean? My 23 of me is one color on the pie chart. Do you know what 23 of me is? Yeah. I don't know what these colors are all about, though. I'm just extremely white. Yeah. Because you know how you can see like... Well, Joe has like a breakdown of like... Of course. Mine is like, you know, 50% in Japan and then the rest is all like East in Europe because that's where my dad comes from. Oh, I see. Whereas Connors is just Wales. They were like, yeah, they gave me an inbred kit when I sent it. No, I'm kidding. Holy moly. No, I'm like... They... I did the thing and they were like, we are so certain that like the past eight generations haven't left this area. I was like, oh, God. Wow. You are the first one in eight generations. Yes. Wow. Yeah. Pretty sure the first time I had Onigiri in my life, I was like... What the fuck is this? This isn't bread. How oriental is this? No, it's beautiful. I mean, it's a wonderful place. And if you like nature, you love mountains and hills and sheep, all these things. Castles. Actually, you have sheep. So many sheep breeding. Yeah. Because the sheep can... You can fucking stick them on any mountain though. Can you really? Yeah. I mean, sheep's love mountains places, man. Really? Yeah. Do you have like a family longbow in the family? I don't have a family longbow. My son is Scottish. So we have the kilt and all that stuff. Let's go do it. So I'm not really generationally very Welsh, but I... Do you guys have any family heirlooms that have been passed down? I don't have any heirlooms, but you know, you just have the Scottish name. We have the clan and the kilt and the thing that we... I have a... So when you get married, you can marry in the kilt and wear no underwear. Oh, that's... So my brothers when they got married, they had the kilt on, which actually they're very expensive, like extremely expensive. Well, they're kind of like the kimonos. Yeah. And yeah, then you all make fun of each other because you're not supposed to wear underwear. So you know... Yeah, you're free born. They're always like, fucking... Welcome to Lady Beards and like... I have... I don't know if it's an heirloom, but I have this like porcelain... Cow statue or it's like a red cow that was made by my great-great-grandad. Do not touch the cow of the red cow. Oh, what a sceptre. Because my mom's from Sendai up north and then they have like the akabe ko, you know, the red cow. Yeah. So my great... I think it's my great-grandad or my great-great-grandad made this red porcelain cow and I have that in my house. I guess that's like the only heirloom I would say. Really? Yeah. But it's not nothing really like as cool as like a kilt or like a sword. It's like looking right now. I don't have the kilt. I would have like buy it, but I don't know. I don't know. I've been thinking. I'm just like, you know, I feel like the concept of like a family heirloom, like you pass down is pretty cool. But I was thinking if I could pick some item from my life right now, what would it be? What would I want to pass down if I had children? Honestly, if you want your kids to be like... Finally, it's just get a box of Pokemon cards and tell them, trust me, in 70 years, this is going to be... Where is that? This is a house, okay? This is an acre of land right here. You see those reddit posts of people who like, I got this in my basement. Is it worth anything? And it's like $400,000. Yeah. And you're like, why is that not in my basement? I don't know. Do you have any heirloom or any kind of thing hand me down from generations? I have a few. I've got one from my grandfather on my mother's side, which is an heirloom, but I don't think it actually is an heirloom. I think it was just a possession of his, which then... What makes it... When does it become an heirloom? How many generations? Maybe three generations? Yeah, maybe like great grandparents and beyond. I think I have a ring for my great-grandparent, which is pretty old now. They go gifted to me on my wedding day. Here we are. It's often just person to person. Oh, okay. So technically, if your grandfather or grandmother gives you something, then that is technically an heirloom. But it's just not as cool. Yeah. The longer it is, the cooler it is. Dude, do you have an heirloom? Do you have an heirloom? Do you have this ring? Yeah. We're in Thailand. There's a lot of jewelry. This is technically an heirloom then because this is from my grandad's. Show the camera your heirloom. That's amazing. This is your grandad's. This is my grandad's. This is Eastern European grandad's. Eastern European grandad. Which bit of Eastern Europe is he from? He's from Hungary. Hungary? Hungary, yeah. That's a country that's also an adjective. All right. Sorry. Tell us about this Hungary. What other countries, man? India. No, I mean, like my grandad liked a lot of jewelry and he bought this back in Hungary and like the, I think it was in the 40s or something. Oh, really? And it fits perfectly. And it fits perfectly on my index finger. Wow. Yeah. And my grandad's like, do you want it? I'm not going to wear it. And I was like, yeah, this is sick. So I try and wear this everywhere I go now. See every hand me down, I'm too scared to wear cause I'm like the more generations. But I feel like wearing the hand me down is the way of showing the spectrum. Yeah. Exactly. Well, none of that. You're not showing it by not wearing it. Yeah. I would just be too scared that I would lose it. Yeah. Especially in show biz. You've got to take it off half the time. Yeah. Yeah. If you're like, whoops, lost the family heirloom in Oklahoma. Yeah. Well, that's why I try not to wear it whenever I'm in a situation where I might have to take it off. But that's on your right hand. Yeah. Your right hand. I'm right handed. Well, that's a nice good knock someone out. Exactly. If I want to, if I want to Godfather someone. But again, I can't. I can't Godfather someone. I can't Godfather someone. I should be Godfathering people left and right. Oh, you know, I'm going to do that to my son. I'm going to be like, son, just the ring. What is your album? You have the album. Do you tell? I have the kind of like a beer Stein and then he has a bunch of notes and whatnot inside it. So it was these notes by grandfather written on pieces of paper and then inside the beer Stein, which is quite cool. It's very interesting. Have you read the notes? Yeah, I've gone through them, but it's like starting to fade and it's actually quite hard to read, which is a challenge. But the one I remember, I haven't gone through them for a while, but the one I remember is it's kind of it's this very philosophical kind of assessment of life and it's sort of like objectives, things to be grateful for, challenges and hurdles. And it was it was a beautiful thing to read. I read it. It's like an eight year old and I was like, well, hocus pocus grandpa, all this life. This is kind of like the experience. Yeah. And it's pretty like, I imagine because you kind of can't imagine your grandparents going through, you know, the same things that you go. No, yeah. We're getting to read that first time. It's quite special. Yeah. I mean, he survived the war and everything. He got shot down, I think in Thailand. He got shot down in the world. He got shot down in Thailand and was they somehow kept him alive. He was so Burma. That's Myanmar, isn't it? I'm sorry. Next door. Yeah. Next door. Next door. He was shot down there and he was in the middle of the jungle and somehow a bunch of the locals managed to transport him to a base and they somehow airlifted and kept him alive. And then he came home and had the family. And now his grandson is bloody lady. He's talking for those seasons. He's talking for these big tails. That's sick. Oh my God. That's incredible. You said you had a couple, right? I'm sorry? You said you had a couple. Yeah, I have some from my father's side as well, but off the top of my head, I can't remember what they are. I think I've got my grandfather's old boxing gloves somewhere, which is pretty badass. My grandfather's a boxer? He must have been. Damn. He was a pugilist. Yes. Unless he just had boxing gloves for the sake of it. It's like a just in case. You could just straight up just, I could just say some heinous lies to my son and give some heirlooms that I bought off Amazon like this. I used to be somebody. Good. Here is my dueling sword. You used to taste mug. You should pass down some of your cursed cosplays. You'd be like, yeah, let's go cosplay. I started your father's career. This was an ancient road given to me by the Emperor of Japan. I have a friend here who's genuinely from a samurai lineage. So he has like family katana and whatnot that as the eldest son, he must take care of. And he's like, these swords are annoying. It's like, like what a sword. I'll give you a sword. I'm like, it's a part of your heritage. It was telling me that a lot of the people from the samurai families, they're all like, all the descendants are like still in touch and they all meet up. Oh, really? It's like, I want to pass that. Yeah. That's really cool. My family on the Japanese side never got to that status. But I guess it counts as an heirloom. I don't know, but there is a soy sauce manufacturing company in Miyagi that was started by like my great, great, great grandfather or something in like the Edo period. The Edo period? Yeah. And like the 1600s, 1700s, something like that. And it's still there. Really? Yeah. So I've, but it's all your shares. Yeah. No, right. That's the real heirloom. It's still there. I thought about going to it, but like it's such a distant rock now. Hi guys, my great-grandad. We're part of the same family technically. Hey, so where is it? Where is it? Miyagi. Miyagi. I mean, it sounds like a YouTube video in the making. Yeah. I do want to do that. Actually, it's just very difficult to get in contact with a soy sauce company in the middle of nowhere in Miyagi. I'm pretty sure this is how you do it. I'd like to order some soy sauce. I'm pretty sure that's the way to get it done. Family. Cousin. Okay. This is my 23 and me. So the facts are here. We are technically related. I do want to go there though. How interesting. Where's Miyagi again? I can't remember where Miyagi is. In Sendai up north. Oh, so it is in Sendai. Okay. Have you spent much time in Sendai? Yeah. I go there like every other month because my grandma still lives up there. Is it a good time in Sendai? Yeah. Lovely place. I've only like gone in, done a show and gone out. So I haven't experienced Sendai. Yeah. Sendai is dope. It's cool. All of North Japan is pretty underrated. Here's a map with proper spelling. There we are. Excellent. Okay. Poor Akita. There's not a lot going on there. What's going on in Akita? Where is Akita? Nothing. Kind of a sea. Top left. Top left. Akita. Yeah. Just a nice place, but there's just not a whole lot going on. I think you just described a lot of Japan outside of Sendai. Yeah. I do think a lot of the, there's a lot of really cool things in at least North Japan. Like obviously like a lot of Yamagata has like really nice hot springs, cherries as well. And I think a lot of the other, what are you out there? I don't know what goes on in the water. What goes on in the water? You are then a lot of nothing. Morioka is a nice city. But then you get to Hashino-hen. It's like, yo, it's so cool. Yeah. It's going on. The Almore is amazing. The Almore is. Tell you what, man. They have those Almore apples, which are allegedly alien apples. So when I heard this whole thing about, when people in Japan tell you about places, they'll say, oh yeah, delicious XYZ. Well, that's like, that's like what I tell people. Like the most useful thing you could probably learn if you want to have a conversation with Japanese person is learning what each prefecture is famous for. Because then they, they, they love it. It's so good. Yeah. But it's so interesting because like they're saying, yeah, delicious apples. I'm like, dude, how good can an apple be? I ate the Almore apple and I was like, oh my life has changed. But this is delicious. This is Japan's strength, right? Domestic tourism. Yes. They figured it out. Just say that Hiroshima is so famous for oysters. And then you, you know, it's just accepted. Yeah. Tourism is just, yeah. And then you realize that there's like 15 places that say they're famous for oranges. There are so many places that claim they have the best oranges. Or oranges. Yeah. Or like mandarins or those types of things. Really? Yeah. Who's got the best oranges? So some places in Shizuoka say they have it. Some places in Ahime say they have it. Really? I see. I give it to Ahime because Shizuoka's already got too much. Like they've got the tea. They've got Fuji. They've got, you know, everything. I got all these things. So I need to put my mic up more. Am I trapped on this? What's happening? I need more flexibility in my mic arm. You can do whatever you want. This whole show I've been pushed, squeezed between this leg of the table on my, my ear, my arm. Is that right? I'm going to break something. Yeah. That's fine. I don't want to repeat it. You can do whatever you want. Bless you. Miyagi is known for its gyuton. Ah, gyuton's delicious. Miyagi has the best gyuton in all of Japan. What do you put your normal go-to meal? What is Ladybeard? What's the Stain's Ladybeard? I like the Akitori. That's a good one. Oh, that's fine. Oh, no, no, no. After we filmed the Akis video together, we went to, there was a size area nearby. Oh, yeah, it's a size area. We were like, this is the closest like, you know, family restaurant. So we'll go in. And I was thinking like, huh, what do you want? Like Ladybeard is going to order. Cause you know, I got like, you know, a stand and meal. I'll give you a stand and meal. Ladybeard ordered, you know, the grilled chicken platters that they have. He ordered four of those. They're tiny though. They're tiny. Got rid of everything, including the skin of the chicken and just had four breasts of chicken. And just, I think you ate that in about five minutes. Yeah, man. It was, Why did you eat the skin? Um, at the time I didn't want the oil and the fat. Yeah. He wanted to say the full protein. Yeah. The full protein. You want to strict diet now or you're kind of more relaxed than I used to be. I'm, uh, my days of having six pack capability of pass me by. Now I'm structured like a sumo and I'm saying, look, it's used to the joy of life being exactly. I'm not going to eat the skin of the chicken. Yeah. Speaking of Sumos, that video you did with the Sumos was awesome, by the way. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I want to, I'm going to blow steam up your bum for a second. Okay. I want everyone at, who's not in Japan to understand Japan is a culture of in groups and out groups. Right. So this is how things are structured here. If you want, if someone like TV or YouTube or something wants to go to a place like a sumo dojo and wants to film, it's going to be a giant Rick Merrill. Very hard to get it done. Especially the combat sports and Sumos, the worst one of all of them. So what I think is really the amazing thing about your channel is you provide overseas viewers the opportunity to experience these elements of Japanese culture, which you can access because you're a Japanese person. And at the same time, you can also communicate it properly because you're simultaneously not a Japanese person. Right. Yeah. So I think this is the real strength of your channel. And I hope everyone at home could properly appreciate this because that is a unique position. Thank you. I'm not used to this. I'm not used to getting afraid this much. Thank you. I mean, Joe has the ability to do the coolest videos. Yeah. I mean, the main reason I wanted to do is just, I just wanted to go up against sumo wrestler and see how it was. And I got fucking flipped. I wasn't even close. It was like a child going up against the goal. It looks heaps fun. I want to go do that training. Oh yeah. That training was easily one of the, because like, you know, the sumo wrestlers do like the, what they call score, which is like lifting the leg up thing. That is so much harder than it looks. Really? It is so much harder because I did it maybe five on each leg. Yeah. And it's like basically doing a single leg squat every single time. And these guys are doing like two, 300 of these before they even start their training. And like, that's the thing. Like that was the one thing I wanted to really express in that video was like, you know, I think most people outside of Japan look think when they think sumo wrestler, they think, oh, big fat guy in a diaper. I think it's changed a lot though. I think a lot of people have started to realize that these guys are like the top athlete. Oh yeah. When you, when I watched some of these guys like stretching, you could see underneath all of that fat, just the insane amount of muscle these guys have. And it's, it's scary. I, I, one time was speaking to this big shot Netflix producer guy. And he was telling me, because I think obviously it came up because I live in Japan. I think it was in America at the time and he, he was talking to me and he was like, yeah, we're trying to get this like sumo thing green lit for Netflix. Kind of like if you've watched like drive to survive, like kind of a turn it into documentary half reality show. Right. But he was telling me that apparently the none of the sumo people would agree to it or the sumo association or whatever it was would agree to it unless it was like produced and ran by like NHK or some kind of Japanese regulatory body. Oh really? They didn't want to sign on to it without having that. So they were just not willing to give any access at all. Really? Unless it was a Japanese company that was kind of doing it. They're so strict. Oh, very, very strict. Very, very strict. Sumo is by far the most. I mean, you know, women can't go in the ring and never have been able to due to the, the walls of sumo. I had to cut out a lot of questions out of my interview. Did you really? Cause you know, I wanted to like learn more about it. But then like, I think it was like 40% of the questions that was just like, no, cut that, cut that, cut that, cut that. Really? Quite controlling about it. It is a very like, you know, it's very much like a sanctuary for like a lot of these people and there's like a lot of history behind it. It's taken extremely seriously. I mean, it's so intertwined with Japanese culture. Totally. So I understood it. Yeah. I understood what they were going for. When you did your pro wrestling video with DDT, how did you feel from that perspective? Because, yeah, because I was in DDT, right? So when did you leave DDT then? 20, no, 2020, 2020. So I must have done my video what two years after? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, but like, how did you go from the perspective of being able to like feel like you got genuine access? I mean, that was really cool. Cause I also came out of a perspective of someone who didn't really enjoy wrestling and never really had interest in it. Like I never, I don't really like, I liked it when I was a kid, obviously growing up, you're like, oh, it's silly wrestling. But I knew that they like, and I understood it before I went in that they were athletes, obviously, and that they're extremely fit and they worked very hard. And I knew that it's not all make-belief. These people are getting injured. Like it's all very, you know, so I think it, for me, it was more of a thing of this is something that I can see that a lot of people I know are very passionate about. I want to understand that passion and then give appreciation towards that. And hopefully from the perspective of someone who doesn't know anything and doesn't really care for it, can I kind of get into it and do it? And I think for me, I got into it through the characters and through the people like through Tekejta, through Chris, who are like very amazing athletes. You know, you speak to Tekejta for like two minutes, you know, like, okay, this is like the most charismatic man ever. I liked them all up until I offered to pay at the Isekaya and I, for all of them, all the wrestlers I offered to pay at these, I'm rookie mistake. Tekejta drank a beer in two sips and then ordered another one with zero hesitation. Which I was fine with because I'm paying. And at one point I just straightly, I was like, you know what? Let's just see how far it goes. At some point they have to run out of beer. They have to run out of beer. Big drinking culture and pro wrestling education. I know, I know, I noticed. Because they, you know, they would work out and they'd be like, well, how do I, how do I get 4,000 calories? Very quickly. I will have nine beers. Liquid bread. Bunch of yakitori. I was great going out with them. I loved hanging out and I hung out with them actually off camera a couple of times afterwards. It was really fun. Tekejta was really fun. But the wrestling and DDT specifically is like the most unhinged wrestling of all. Right. Because they were like, kind of like backstage. They were like, you got to come meet. I don't know what the name of the doll was. Oh, Yoshiko. There's a doll. A blow up doll. A doll. It was a fan favorite. Everyone fucking loves this doll. And it's like a ride of passage. It's like a main character. And they're like, they're like, you should come meet it. Meet the doll. And then there's some guy go, oh, oh, come on. This is so fucking stupid. Do you know that Yoshiko is currently out with injury? And then like, you know, I'm watching this wrestling and I've seen clips of DDT. So I knew what to expect. But then like, I just, I think these three guys came out and they all just kind of got basically naked and shoving their butt in each other's face. That's the fight. Yep. There was no fighting. They were just shoving their asses. It's a mental fight. And then my favorite part of wills. And then my favorite part where I was like, I think I'm watching just jackass was that he had those IKEA boxes, plastic storage boxes. Yeah, I was just throwing them on the IKEA plastic boxes and they would just shatter. I don't have a slamming guy. And then they would obviously, they were very sharp because plastic and they hits his back was just bleeding all over. And it was like watching some kind of really deranged yard fight in America. So I'm like, what is the point of this fight in particular? Because then at the end of it, Tkashdur had his like headline fight, which was amazing and was like 30 minutes. I was ridiculous how long it was. Was the ring still full of plastic or do they clean that one up? But it was, it was really fun getting to watch it. And, you know, since then that really gave me an appreciation for, I mean, just what they do and the show they put on. Cause I think they're not only are they amazing athletes, but also I think top performers. Yeah. Oh yeah. And yeah, getting to talk with them off camera as well and asking them about the stuff I couldn't show on camera. It was really interesting as well. Like that kind of stuff was fun. And the, the, the, how they communicated to each other and how they all worked. It was, it was a really interesting world. It's all, it's a whole new world, isn't it? It's so different. It's different in Japan as well. I've never seen it. Yeah. I'd love to see it in America and see the difference. Cause I imagine that at least DDT was a lot more DDT was dude was so hilarious. Just everything that happened. So what are the DDT shows? And it's also very much like, sorry to interrupt one second is that they also felt like everything was, they winged it. I remember we was talking to this guy and he was the guy who would drive the stuff from the shows. And he told me, I remember that he was like, yeah, I had to drive 20 hours straight. I was like, did you stop? He's like, no, the show had to happen. I was like, I was like, I don't think you should be doing this. One of the wrestlers was driving the van. No, no, no, no. Like that guy who just does everything. They're driver. He's the driver, I think. I think he was just the guy that does everything. He was just a staff and his job was to do what they need to do. I think it's just welcome to Japan. That's Japanese work culture. I remember being like, this guy is, yeah, yeah. It was a nice guy though. They're all, they're all so sweet. They're all like carry on. That's fine. The DDT guys are hilarious. I mean, one of the DDT shows, I ride backstage and everything beforehand, talking to everybody and one of the American guys turns up and like, hey, how's it going? Haven't seen for a while. And he goes, well, 16 years ago when I started wrestling school, I had no idea that one day I will participate in an anal explosion time bomb match. What did you just say to me? The match was he was the heel. It was done shock or a Dino again. The butt joke. He's the butt guy. The American dude had kidnapped one of Dino's mates and had inserted an explosive device into his anal. And now there was a clout down clock going on. And this, I can't remember the whole thing because this match was so stimulating. The number of things that happened was ridiculous. The referee was cosplayed as Donald Trump. And for some reason then halfway through, he got involved in a love affair with one of the wrestlers. It was so strange. I remember watching backstage on the monitor and I'm like, I could have followed. It was so bizarre. That should have been me. Finally, there's a pin for one, two, three. It's like, cool. No idea what just happened. It was so strange. How long ago was this? A few years ago. Oh, okay. When I was still there. So it was a strange, just DDT fight. You were involved. Weirdest one. I mean, I've wrestled Yoshihiko. That was good fun. So it was the weirdest one I was involved in. I'd have to stop and think. It's such a unique experience. It's DDT just every, well, I remember there was one, it was a rumble. And at some point, sorry, it was a rumble. It was a six man tag. And at one point we all, one of the wrestlers had a gimmick when this music would play and he'd start dancing and he put on these glasses. And then everyone put on the glasses. We'll go into the middle of the ring. And we do who's that pop group, the bunch of boys, the really famous ones. They say, what's the name? She right? Exile. We'll do the thing. When they do the, you know, the thing with the train, we all get in the middle of the ring. We all do the choo choo train with these glasses on. Somehow someone got slammed and pinned in the mattress. I have no real recollection. Just in the middle of the train. I was just one as well. I remember, oh dude, I was on this card. When I was in union. So DDT had a subsidiary company called union, which is the one I was in when I first got here. And so my match on this particular card was opening match. So again in do my match. Cool. Now I can just chill out, watch the rest of the matches, right? At interval, there was a couple of Aussie guys who were there. So we were talking at the merch table or whatnot and that's all right. So final match that happens, the main event of this card is a tag match and it's for the championship. And it's these two giant meandertal monster men against these two kind of smaller kind of leaner kind of martial arts kind of guys, right? Just one of the most extreme matches I've ever seen. The amount of blood in this ring was just remarkable. Oh my God. Those head butts we talked about. It was a case of like one, two, three, just inside just blood everywhere, fricking bananas, halfway through the match, there's an interference. So the match gets stopped as qualification. One of the guys gets the mic. We're not ending like this. Stop the match again. They go back to it. It's like 30 minutes of just madness. Jesus. I was surprised how long at the end of the two huge guys win. And so they've got the shock. Well, the skinny guys were tough as nails. The skinny guys are there and they're all kind of disappointed. The two big guys are there. One of them gets the mic and he's like, we won. Now we're world tag champions. And at a time like this, there's only one thing left to do. Sing a song. They start singing this. We're brothers forever. All the wrestlers go into the ring. We're all singing. No one's explained to me what's going on. I look over at these two. What's it guys? The audience that I go. No idea. What? It was so strange. That's so sick. And then that's the end of the show. Holy. See you next time. I love how you guys are just seeing and dancing on what is presumably just a pool of blood. A bit of barbed wire sitting next to you. Did that contribute to you wanting to perhaps move on to doing more music performance? Was injuries a part of that? No, no, no. It's a matter of just COVID-19 turned up and the type of match that DDT liked using me in, like the type of match herself disappeared. You guys should appreciate the cross dressing bearded foreigner. Yes. Has a very specific spot on the card. Yes. So when COVID happened, so they liked using me in these big kind of matches like three on three tags or more tags. Cause that's the best spot for me in the context. Yeah. But then when COVID happened, they stopped having those kinds of matches. They couldn't have that many people together. Right. And so then it was just sort of a natural progression from there. Oh, right. But you know, I mean, every single music show I do, I have to wrestle a man. So is there a pool of blood at the end of every lady in the entire as well? I mean, every single music show is nothing but blood. That's the name of the album. Nothing but blood. Nothing but blood. It's not. That's not the name of the album. I want to have something I'll tell you. Do tell. Do tell. Please see something happened on the way here. Oh, the way to the studio. I had an experience. So I'm coming to the studio. I got to catch the train. Come to the studio. And so I had a plastic tote bag. Yes. It's one that you get from the supermarket. It's just a stronger shopping bag. Sure. It's had my plastic shopping bag and I had my personal effects in it. And I had it over my arm and I'm going to the station and I get to the escalator. Bottom of the escalator station and I'm leading on the escalator. My bar. And my bag got caught in the escalator and my bag has been torn to smithereens. Oh, no. And just to prove I'm not lying. Oh, you have my. Oh, my God. Whoa. That's a clean wrap. That was done to my bag by an escalator on the way to the studio. Look at that. I don't know if there was no, it's a brand new bag. This tag is still on it. It's a brand new bag. A bit of must have gotten caught in something and then I heard this. Like, like catch it. This is getting all torn up. The old lady behind me is all she loses her mind. My stuff falls out. My protein cup bounces down the escalator. I'm going to get it out. Have you released it in the end? I just pulled. Just pulled and hooked. How did the escalator break in the DR? Oh, that strange foreign man has shoved his bag in it. Trying to see his bag. So I tell you what though, it's my favorite thing about Japan is where there's like a moment like that. Everyone just rallies around the cause. All these straight up. Yes, they do. School girl grabs my protein cup and runs it to me. I'm like, oh, I think I'm almost done. So, I've never seen an escalator do that. That's crazy. That was escalated death. Clearly not as strong as you were hoping for. That's exactly right. It can get eight liters of Coca-Cola. That's my fear of the final destination escalator. I was about to say, it's like final destination. Can I gift this to the studio? Yeah, sure. We'll hang it in the tuit. It's a little bit out of place with the rest of the items, but. There we go. It will live on. It will live on. Excellent. So I had to go and buy a new bag for my personal effects before coming to the studio. That's crazy. Look at that. You're on time. I was on time. Happy to have you. You're on time. Thank you very much. I wasn't going to faff around with any tidiness. Lady beats the on time cross dresser. That's how we know you've been living in Japan for a while. You gave enough time to be on. The worst case scenario. Also I'm badly organized. I'm going to make sure I give us a lot of buffer time to get things wrong. I'm so badly organized. I'll be the worst organized person on planet earth. Right now, I haven't been able to watch any anime for a while and I'll tell you why. It's because I lost access to my Netflix. And the reason why is because my bank canceled its debit card service. Not just for me, but for everyone. Canceled? I was just like, no more debit cards for anyone. I'm like, all right. Really? So wait, wait, are you with? No. Who are you with? Have they done it too? Yeah, that is me. I was with the one that used to be the only one with English services, which is the worry I was there. 10 years ago. I don't want to say their name. I don't want to get in trouble. Yes, but anyway, so now I just can't watch anime because I need to get a new one. I just can't be bothered. Yeah, it's fine. You kind of need a debit card. I finally have got myself organized. But now I got to go back to Netflix. It's way more space now. Well, the fact that you're living without Netflix is actually, I think, a positive in life. You can also just, you know, watch online without the methods, so enough. Hey, stop. What's wrong with Netflix? There's something going bad with Netflix. Is this, I guess I'm out of the loop a little bit, you see, with the anime world. Is something happening to the world of Netflix anime that I don't know about? No, I don't know. You just don't need it. Yeah. All right. Just streaming services in general. I'm just kind of going a little... Really? Yeah. How are you consuming your NIMA? NIMA? I mean, I still have the Netflix account if I need to watch something. Yeah. Yeah, I have Netflix. So if it's on Netflix, I'll watch it on Netflix. But if it's not, I'm not really worried. Just find a way. You want the crunchy roll or one of those? You can't watch in Japan. It's blocked in Japan. You need a VPN. You're right. It is. And to be fair, most anime is on Netflix. Yeah. Not everything is subbed though. Especially in Japan. Yeah. Japan, they have a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it's annoying because they'll have it in Japan and then you click it and there's no subtitles. You're like, okay, it's fine. Wait, so when did your Netflix account get cancelled? Years ago? Two or three years ago. And you're still thinking about it? You're still thinking about it now. Well, I only just got a new bank account. I'm trying to show you how badly organized I am. I've been living debit card free. I've just been cashing it and then hoping. I'm just giving I or yous to everyone. I promise. I assure you, I will pay you. Pretty much. Damn. Yeah. So what was the last anime you watched then? Oh dude. The last anime I watched was barn. Congratulations. Thank you. That's amazing. You're an anime producer. Thank you. That's incredible. You don't need Netflix to watch it. I don't. I don't. That is amazing. And you can watch it multiple times in one hour. Yes. We have a bar related conversation. Sure. I got a bant. A bant. A bant. A bant. A bant. A bant. A bant. A bant. You bant. Bant. You count. Firstly, congratulations. Thank you. Let's just get everyone to understand how difficult it is to get any form of media produced. Yes. Anime in particular. Yes. Again, that's going to be another Japanese world, which is closed off and challenging to deal with. Yes. Very tough. I kind of have to shoehorn my way in by just being. By just saying, yeah, I'll pay for everything. Don't worry. I just worry about the cost later. I'll just get it done. Let's just get it done. That's basically how I shoehorned my way into it. Really? Yes. I'm really impressed, man. When I saw you done that, I was like, thank you. Just global domination. It was just amazing. The fact you can get that done is incredible. Now I don't know how to take a compliment. I'm like, yes. He's too good. What do I say to this? You learned the secret art of combat. How do you do this? I haven't even made it to your head. I've got a lot of nice things to say. No. It's too nice. But I wanted to have a bomb related conversation because it is, of course, a beautiful film. So congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. So I was watching the video of you directing the English dub. It was awesome. So in the conversation you were having about the characters, you were talking about Daichi and you said typical Asian dad. All right. So I'm pretty sure you're the only person here with an Asian dad. So this is the first time in my life I've ever heard the expression typical Asian dad. You hear a lot about the mums. You hear a lot about Asian mums. But I've never heard someone talk about the stereotypical Asian father. So can you talk us through an Asian dad, please? Okay. Typical Asian dad is probably a little bit stoic, you know, kind of doesn't often showcase his emotions. I mean, I would say typical Asian dad is... I'd say he doesn't know how to showcase his emotions. Yes. Yes. Maybe he doesn't know how to showcase his emotions. Like I will say, for example, this is funny. So in the original, in the first draft of the screenplay, you know, when the main female character comes home to meet her dad for the first time, in the first draft of the screenplay, they have like a short conversation and I was trying to look for inspiration. So I asked my wife, Sydney, so what is something that your dad says to you when you've come home from like going on an adventure or going off and doing something? What is something that he says to you that would make you emotional? And Sydney says, oh, you know, sometimes he will give me a hug and say, you know, I'm proud of what you've done. Congratulations and stuff like that. So I wrote something similar to that in my first draft of the screenplay. Show this to a Japanese person and then I get the feedback of just like, yeah, we don't know how to translate this because that's not what a typical Japanese dad would say. Really? Yes. They show their love in a lot more subtle way, you know, in terms of how they phrase things and how they show their concern over someone. And I was thinking about it. I was like, yeah, I think my dad's the same actually. Really? Yeah. So how does your dad let you know that he loves you and so forth? He gets my mom to phone me and my mom will say it, but my dad will never say it himself. For some reason I imagine your mother having an Italian accent in this situation. Yeah. My mom would not even say that my dad is the one I concern. My mom would say it's just something along the lines of, yeah, we have been concerned. Are you doing okay? The we, the collective we. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I know behind there is a puppet master pulling the strings behind the scenes. Really? Yes, yes. Where my dad, you know, obviously cares and loves for me, but how he goes about doing that is he will get my mom to message me and say that it's mom worrying about me. Whereas I know in our family dynamic, my mom's just like, yeah, God's just being God. It's all good. And, you know, it's I think Asian dads are not too different from a lot of Western dads, maybe in terms of showing, you know, not outwardly showing your emotions a lot of times. But I think with Asian dads, it's even more closed off. Yeah, the whole like stoicism thing I can definitely relate to since my soon to be father-in-law is also an Asian dad. Oh, and he is like, he is giga stoic. Really? Yeah, super, super stoic. And like, you know, he'll like express like, you know, love and affection and stuff like that, but not in like the way that a mom does all the way that like a non-Asian dad does, right? Like they're a little, I would say they're a little more open. Like my dad, when I come home, my, my dad would just be like, I love you, dickhead. You know, just classic Aussie dad way of, you know, embracing as you would know. So what do you mean I have to dig it? You know, but like, yeah, Aki's dad wouldn't do that. You know, Aki's dad is a lot more like stoic, but like I can, I can feel the love and affection, you know, Filipino. Filipino is generally a pretty laughy, warm, kind of family, family, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Aki's mom is definitely that really. She is like a hundred percent just like, and you know, your mom as well is very much just like a hundred percent love and affection and embrace all the time, you know, whereas the dad would just kind of be in the background. Just like nodding his head, you know, smiling. Is that, is that, is that an Asian dad phenomenon or is that a, the effect of marrying an Asian mom phenomenon? Do you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I'll give you like the best example. So on the, on the day of like my premiere, obviously my dad was super proud, super happy and I, um, Naby upstairs just kept telling me that on the day. All he would do is just go up to Naby and he wouldn't say anything. He would just go, that's lovely man. And then that's it. That's all that's needed. And that's all that's needed. Yeah. Yes. What was the credit? Yeah. I cried during the year that the lunch there was wonderful. Yes. And, and, and, and you know, no words are needed. No words are needed. Just, just, yeah. And I'm like, okay. You know, and, uh, yeah, that's, I guess, I guess that's that kind of like gesture from, from my experience, it's just like, oh my God, he's really emotional right now. He touched my shoulder. That's beautiful, man. It's a thing of beauty. I'm, I'm, I'm inferring your dad is not a particularly vocal person. No, no. Is he vocal in other contexts? Uh, my dad is the type of person who would just, he can be, uh, you know, if you open up a conversation with him, he can talk for hours and hours, but sometimes he just sits in the corner and he doesn't say a word and he just takes in the atmosphere. And I'm like, I go up to him and I'm like, dad, are you having a good time? And he's like, I'm having a great time. That's a very dad thing. He's like seeing everyone together. Look at what I've done. Yes. Everyone's having a good time. Yes. Beer anyone beer. He's just vibing with the atmosphere and he's having a great time. And I think I would probably grew up to be the same person as well. Whenever you like host anyone, it's really fun to make sure everyone's like, you've got food, you got drink, you got beer. As long as everybody else is happy, I'm happy. Yeah. For sure. It's also a Western dad. Like, I'm not that much different. Oh, you got a Western dad. Oh yeah. I mean, I told you how he was. He just drinks wine and just goes, I love you, Dickhead. I mean, I feel like all of the, you know, our father's generations are very not very good at expressing. Yeah. They always feel about things. Mine's been very, mine's very kind and caring. Yeah. Very expressive. Oh, really? Super expressive. I would say super expressive. But there's, you know, I grew up with an abundance that I love you and things like that. That's why you compliment so much. Also, I appreciate the people. You have beautiful eyes. I'm done with this problem, nonsense. What is this? Snake charmer we have here. What is this? That's amazing. How to kill a British beard. It's amazing that you wish for it. Positivity. What do you want to return? I'm certainly to understand why I want to do this. I'm very bribed by this notion. No, I mean, my dad's very, he's very sweet and he's very kind. But I think, you know, when you're a kid as well, you see it differently too. I think because your dad wants to, I suppose, be in like more of a raising, you know, trying to like be a father. And then when you're like now, you know, when you get older, it's the dynamic changes quite a lot. I feel like the dad. Oh, for sure. I'm also having a hard time remembering what he was like when I was younger because I feel like I'm also seeing it through a kid lens. So I don't know. I feel like I've warped. I've seen it because my dad's super cool now, but I know he was very strict when I was growing up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was strict. Yeah, he's really strict. Like no Xbox, no nothing. Well, if he wasn't strict, it would be ask your mom who was then strict. Yeah, yeah. But it was very loving family there overall. They're very sweet. People have seen them on camera. Your dad does not seem like the strict kind. He was the strict one. Really? Yeah, because he would be gone working in Germany and then it would always be like, mom, the ultimate threat was dad's going to hear about this when he gets back. Please don't talk that. That was a traditional threat, wasn't it? Why is your father getting home? Yeah, I was like, please don't tell dad. Because I understand it now is like my mom probably went something along the lines of, you know, Connor did this. Can you just go and scare him a little bit? Yeah. And so then I would naturally be very scared when he would be like Connor. And he would do saying, I mean, he doesn't let me tell us. He had this stare that had an intent that was very scary as a kid. You're like, the death stare. That is a far better disciplinary technique than. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, look, they, they, I think I turned out okay. You've done great. They were wonderful parents. Yeah. Thanks for Connor's mom and dad. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. I was a little shit and they had to, you know, I did a great job. Do you have siblings? I do have three brothers. Oh, hence why I enjoyed fighting so much. Did you have brothers? I got one. Is that why you like fighting growing up as well? No. It's not nothing to do with it. It's like WrestleMania every weekend in my house. My was too much older than me. So that didn't make me stop me from beating up my little brother. No, I, we, yeah, I think cause we were all so close in age like two years. Oh yeah. Well, and then we had the older brother who was a lot older. And then when he came, he was like, are you like fighting? And so he enjoyed beating the shit out. You never did wrestling with your brother? No, I don't want my brother because he was old. He was so much older than me that he was always kind of too cool to do that. I know what you mean. Yeah. So about wrestling with dad and whatnot, so that was fine. You were with your dad? Did you not? No. You got a rough house with your dad? Yeah, you got a rough house with your dad, of course. We used to be in the beach and dad would pick me up and just chuck me. Oh yeah. I guess that would be wrestling. Yeah. You cut back and try to have a bit of fisty cuffs with dad, but he's much stronger than you are. Definitely. So again, definitely. So as you play football or rugby with the older people as well and you get tackled by one of them. Oh my God. Yeah. You ever been humbled by your dad? In what sense? I know. I remember this one. I remember this. I'm just remembering this core memory now when we're at the park and I was like having a race with my dad and I can't remember how old I was probably like five, six years old. And I was like beating my dad every time. Obviously, my five, six year old fucking brain was just like, damn, I'm fucking goaded at this. I'm beating my dad. No beating, dad fell off. Yo, what? I'm beating the adults. And I remember I was like, you know, obviously my dad beat my dad. He's like, oh, you just beat me. And I'm like, all right, dad, this time I want you to go all out. Just just go all out. And I'm getting cocky. And I think he knew I was getting cocky and he looks me in the eye and he goes, are you sure? Are you sure you want me to do that? And I'm like, yeah, dad, I got this. I'm a, I'm a big boy now. I'm a grown ass kid now. Go all out. And I remember just looking down and I go, okay, are you ready, dad? Three, two, one, go. And I like full on start sprinting and I look up and he is like beyond the horizon. And I'm like, what? My dad had this in him the entire time. I think I was a sore loser from birth. So I blocked those memories. I don't hear this. Your dad just started taking normal style steps. I think you're going to say something like my dad like leg swept me before. Boy type family. Last time you actually full on sprinted like 50 meters or like 100 meters. I know you sprint a lot in your videos, but I wonder if that's something you full on tried to. Last time I did that because I used to do hill sprints for my cardio, but then I got an injury doing it not too long ago. Yeah. Cause I did one like last year and I was like, I can sprint still. Of course I can still sprint. And then when you do it, you're like, holy shit. This is fucked. I pulled like four different muscles. I haven't done this in so long. You got to stay conditioned, but apparently if you do sprints a lot, it keeps your mitochondria healthy. So that's good cause it keeps you youthful allegedly. So that high intensity interval training is really important. Until you injure yourself. Sorry? Yeah. Then you're challenged. I was, when I was doing my sprints last pre injury, I was, I have a neighborhood hill that I do them up and there was a 16 year old boy who came out of his house and he's watching me sprint and he's like, he's like, I'll run with you. Like, oh, hey man. He's like, Hey, I'm on my way back down the hill. He's like, what you doing? Sprinting. He's like, uh-huh. Where you from? Australia. It's like, I get to the bottom of hill. Like, all right. Well, I got to go back up. I'll come with you. So I spent around, I'm faking as hard as I could go and he's just casually level with me the whole time. You're like, that's exactly, we get to the top of it. And he's just nose breathing. Totally fine. We go back down the hill together. He's like, we get to the bottom. He's like, you want me to go a hundred percent? Yeah. Go on. We turn around straight up the hill instead of the top waiting. All right, young man. I'm never sure. You made your point. I'm fighting another hill. Fuck this street. I can't believe you youth maxed you like that. It makes me like, you never believe. Damn. How are you guys feeling in terms of youth? You're still on the good side of 30. Well, you know, I mean, you always, you always feel the decay. Yes. But are you feeling, are you feeling so happy? You guys are on the other side of 30 now. You're halfway down. I'm mid 30s now. Yeah, cool. I'm 31. I'm feeling, are you starting to appreciate the process? Cause this is what I've had as much as you start losing your youthful prowess. At the same time, there's a whole new side of life that kind of opens up, such as the joy of just sitting on an airplane for 15 hours without doing anything. Just you kind of, I found as you get older, you become much more able to just be at peace with yourself and the world. Yeah, totally. Totally. I appreciate park benches a lot more. That's a show. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. A lot of people say park benches. a lot of us have reached that stage maybe a lot faster than maybe other people have been able to reach that. I mean, the main thing I feel is that drinking is so much more detrimental than it used to be. Well, yeah, well. Well, the pub angel is definitely not on your side now. You've got the pub deal. Having a big night out suddenly feels a lot worse now than it used to. There's a meme on the internet, which is it's the day after drinking year 20, is that it's a shot of some kid in a movie, it's all around college, high-fiving everybody. The day after drinking in your 30s, it's a shot from the hangover when they wake up and he's got no tooth. And he's got like this. And the day after drinking in your 40s, and his E.T. dying. It's like a fibrolet. It used to be, you know, if you had like an early start, it would be shit and you could do it. It's like, now I just don't think I can. I don't think I can like wake up and do things. Right. I think the biggest thing is like every time you partake in the act, it's almost like you have to play, you have to like plan out. You have to vibe everyone else out too, I've realized now. Why'd everyone else out? Well, it used to be like, if you would go drinking with people, it would be like, we're just fucking gonna go crazy. And now it's like, how many drinks is tonight? How many, what are you looking for tonight? Do you not feel this way? Well, I mean, Halfton, do you got drinking? Ladybeard does not participate that much in the old, the old, the old alcohol. One, two, three. Down the garden. I honestly think it would hold you back. Yeah. I think you have more than enough energy to participate. Thank you. For me, it's, you know. You're going against your Aussie bloodline by not doing that. I know, when I was younger, I made a kind of an identity out of the fact that I was the only one who could drive. And I quite enjoyed that identity because I could have fun if I wasn't there. Right, right. So I was like, ha ha, power. You were the pub angel. I was the pub angel. You were the pub angel. Of course. You were the pub angel. But it's kind of interesting because you see everyone else start to slowly lose control of themselves. You kind of watch the process and you learn a lot about your friends doing that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It really does. It brings out the true side of my mind. Yeah, definitely. You know, Tom Oh comes out of the bathroom with no pants on and you're like, well, we know what it takes to get to this point now. I didn't know you were like that, Tom Oh. Damn. Far enough. Far enough. I remember you told us this last time and I feel bad that I didn't remember. It's fine. Yeah, right. I mean, because you look like someone who can slam back like 10 beers and no problem. Do I? Yeah. Thank you. You give off that energy, I feel. I think I survived DDT. I just assumed alcoholism was a free record. Surviving that. I do appreciate the fact that you feel that way though. Australian bloodline would be proud. I'm saying you look like you would be so much fun to drink with. Bless you, that's very kind. Well, we could go drinking and you can drink. I think we did do this. We did do this. Last time you were on the show. And it was, I thought like you were drunker than me the entire time. You were drunk. I was like, wait, you've had no drinks? I need his drink to catch up to your level. That's just generally how I am. I'm out with no debit card. It seems like he's been drinking. That's awesome. I'm just kidding. I'm having a debit card because no one can stick you with the bill. Oh, that's true. I guess you're a trainee of the bank card. The one time where that system comes in handy for you because you can still get cash. Yeah, that's right. Damn. The big fan separates debit cards and cash cards. Cash card being the card that you get that allows you to withdraw money because with your debit card, you cannot do so unless you are with some of the banks that now have realized that perhaps the system might have been out there. Well, what a beautiful voice. Did you just hear that? That was a perfect narrator kind of and make an announcement on the JL minds. He's a voice director. He is, he's a voice director. I don't have anything close to your credits and your lineage. I don't have this beautiful sunshine voice. Yeah, but he wasn't in Bacana. I wasn't in Black Butler. Yes. I was in all of these amazing shows. I still can't get over that. Yeah, man. That's my old life. It's good. Old life. 15 lives in the time that I've taken to live half of one. I don't know, man. You've done some things. You're doing pretty fine. I'm doing pretty fine from what I can tell. Play video games. No, no, no. In your pre-30 life, I think you've done plenty. I appreciate that. Do you play much video games? I hear what happened. When I was young, I played a lot of video games and then I kind of got into that kind of year 10, year 11 period when I started taking life a bit more seriously. And so then I didn't for a long time. And then the point came when I was working and working and working and working and working. I always kind of said to myself, I'll sort life out and then I'll play some video games. The point came back 2017 or something and I went, I am working so hard. I'm getting a frickin' PlayStation. I got a PlayStation, then I started to play the video games again. And then I kind of feel like at least for the time being, I've had my fill. I went through the two Lord of the Rings games, Shadow of Mordor and then Shadow of War. And I stopped halfway through Shadow of War because it was getting too scary. So. You know, horror movie fan that's easily... There's another thing that happens as you get older. The idea of dark caves with goblins popping out of them is less appealing than it was when you were a young man. Because once in real life, frankly, real life provides enough terrors. So you don't need more terror in the form of fiction. You know what I'm saying? There's still nothing more scary than having to file your taxes. It is still the most. If there was a game that could capture that energy of having to send that form off and be like, oh God. But when you receive a letter from them, standing there opening it, you're like, no, no, no. It's okay. No, no, no, no. Yeah, man. Adulthood. That's a real horror story. No more video games, no Netflix. What does... I'm open to the video games. I'm open to the video games. But I kind of just put it down for a while and I haven't been back for a while. What have you been doing in your downtime recently then? Well, here's what I've discovered. The joy of just sitting. I'm enjoying a good side of your phenomenal book. The joy of sitting. The joy of sitting. It's a self-help book. I worry not about hernias. I worry not about distractions. I worry about finding a place to find a place to put my money. No, no, no. I was thinking, so you just finish all your work or all your concerts. You come home and you just power down. You just... Yeah, pretty much. I consume quite a lot of YouTube. I don't consume it that actively though. So, one time I'll put it on and have it there whilst I sit and reflect. We all are doing that. Unless I specifically am trying to learn something. In which case I'll lock in. I will never lock in. You don't like to lock in? No, I should. Anti-locker. Anti-locker. I try to lock in, but I feel like I'm distracting myself with too many things. I'm like, ah. Well, fair enough. I try to watch things. Yeah, it's good having a watch. I'll watch your content. I enjoy your content very much. Thank you, thank you. I watch yours when I watch this. Thank you. You've been crushing it on TikTok? Yes, yes. You're doing the Tikka Stuckus? Have a little look-us. I've only recently, you know, trying to learn more about it. So I kind of wanted to stay the fuck away from it. Okay. But yours popped up right away and I was like, oh, it knows me already. Thank you. Thank you, man. It served me what I want to see immediately. Thank you, man. And it was forcing. I love you are getting in there. I, you know, check the comments. And I'm glad they all love you. Yeah, it's very kind of you. It's turned out that's where the fan base went. Have you noticed this? The fan base moves around the planet. Well, you know, YouTube has changed quite a lot. Yeah. You know, it's been, I think it's also amazing for what you do. And I think your energy lends itself really well. Yeah. Getting people and being like, oh, I'm here. And they're like, oh, it's Ladybeard. Let me say a thing. Cause I can see Shiori looking at me. Hey, if you go on a TikTok, you can go find my group, Babybeard, at babybeard underscore Japan. Our new single is called Macho. And you can record yourself doing a Macho dance with the hashtag, if you still use those, of Macho dance challenge. Tag us so we can see it, please. We don't, none of us use TikTok. So we're just like, we don't know if hashtags work. Hashtags are a thing of the past that they've done now. I assume so. I think so. There's been reports of like how some platforms, hashtags are really effective. And then there are others where it's just like, it's pretty much useless. I think it's all focus, focus. People are trying to, you know, find a new way. SEO, optimization and stuff. It's always changing. I don't know. It might. People that'll make fun of people who are spiritual. And then they'll be like, if I put four spaces before I put the title, it might improve. You're as deranged as anyone else. That was awesome. What's happened to YouTube is, cause I remember last time I was here, there was no singing allowed because the algorithm will get you. So. Oh, the whole copyright issue. Yeah. It's not with YouTube. Tell me about the carousel. They love shorts, obviously. And recently there was a change where they stopped counting people who had ad blockers. What's the, what, what? An ad blocker on their browser. So there's no ads. Yes. So the views wouldn't count them. The views don't count them. I want to have our YouTube ads. Yes. Please, please, please, please. Can we really not find a better way to do YouTube ads than just jamming them in, in the middle of a sentence, just anywhere? I'm getting so upset. So listen, I completely understand the need for advertising in media. Yeah. Because we are all in the biz. So we all understand you got to keep the lights on. However, can we not find a better way than just, there it is. The other day I was watching a video and they had the sponsorship read that's scripted in the video. Yeah. Which I'm totally happy to watch. But then the sponsorship read was interrupted by an ad. It was an ad within an ad. It was like the film inception. I was sad they go, add in my ad now. I got to get past this ad to get back to the first ad. You know what I'm saying? That's pretty ridiculous. It's pretty, it's just, listen, I got no problem with the ads, but can we just get better, organize the map with no debit card? Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha. Was it reminding you who's like ladybid? You need to get a debit card. Why would we get only bank ads? His personalized ads have gotten goringly good. You were foreign-aided Japan's debit card. I have gotten ads that have been foreigners targeted in Japan. There was one that was like, are you a foreigner in Japan who misses American candles? I was like, very close. Very close. This is American candles. Yeah. That's extremely specific. I was like, you really threw there. And I'm sure you got some people. Yeah. I was probably very close to being your demo, but you missed me. But they look nice, the candles. Good for him. I did not click there. I did not want to tell him that he did. I have YouTube premium now, so I don't see any ads. Oh, really? YouTube premium is probably out of all of the description services, I think it's the best one. Because I watch so much YouTube. You get no ads, you can download them on your phone so that when you go on the airplane, you can queue up a bunch of podcasts, no ads. Let me totally contradict the exact thing I've just said. Oh, please. Now, here's, I'm actually specifically trying to keep it with the ads. I just wish they'd be a bit more convenient with the way they do them. But the reason for that is because I feel, living in Japan and getting served Japanese ads, you actually learn a lot about the culture and also language through advertising. You think about it, when we were kids, if I say to you, you should understand this, have you ever bought or rented a video that wasn't quite right? I'm such a... That's Aussie, obviously. There's really advertising, so much about culture gets developed, especially for youth. So therefore I kind of want to keep getting the YouTube ads. Because I feel like there are more ads than ever now and it's so rare that we have one that is within the cultural zeitgeist. Really? So, what was the last ad that you feel like in recent memory that really took the... There's one, oh goodness, I'm getting one at the moment in Japan. I won't say the name of the company, but it's for a recruiting service, right? I guess it's for recruiters, you get them too? Oh my God, the fucking L-stap one, bro. I hear that. I know the L-stap. That's because... That's fucking in the taxi. Yeah, the taxi ads. The taxi ads. The taxi ads. The taxi have their own unique ads in Japan. So what I realized is that the Japan taxi ads, because I guess the clientele get taxi ads, I guess people who want recruiting or golf clubs, or gifts for women specifically. But like, do you have woman and want gift for her? Here is hair dryer. Really? Do you have woman? I get the ads in the taxis where it's all like the, it's either the recruitment companies or it's like... How is there so many recruitment companies? Or it's like some kind of... How is there so many? Or it's like a system management company or something. That fucking Sky Kobuski guy. Oh my God. It's like everyone. It's always the guy that goes like... Yeah, it's a fucking what's the name? Fujiwara Tatsuya. Yeah. Fucking hell, bro. It's always guys just doing that, posing. I find it really funny. Are they like slowly running? I find it really funny, especially with the Sky Kobuski guy's ads, because it's Fujiwara Tatsuya who's in all those ads. He played Kaiji. He played Light and Death Note. He was Light and Death Note, and he was also Kaiji in the live action. That's really ironic. That you of all people would be in these ads. I'll turn it off immediately. Yeah. I'll turn it off immediately on the cab now. I'm glad. It's so annoying. There's one that I'm getting on YouTube for another recruitment service. The scene is there's an office and there's some Uchi-san who's getting a promotion of the bosses like XYZ. Guess promoted. Everyone starts, punch, punch, punch, punch. This guy's like, and these two young kids. One of them looks at the other one and goes, didn't you make his presentation? And then this Uchi-san looks at the camera and goes, Usu. Can we all do that on the camera please? This one's the wide, yeah? That's the wide. Can we all go Usu? I think it's not a full thumbs up. It's a half thumbs up on those. And it's witty eyes in Usu. Okay? Ready? Three, two, one. Usu. There you go. Make a gift. Make a gift dear viewers. I mean, the ads are nonsensical. Yeah. I mean, I think the problem now with ads is that everything is personalised to whatever your taste and your algorithm wants to serve you. Japan still loves a jingle. It does. It does. Everything's got a fucking jingle. I watch a lot of Japanese TV and I always end up seeing just the most weird things. I'm like, what the fuck is this? What is this advertising? I don't know. Yeah, but I also- And then it'll be like rice. And you're like, why was there an alien just slapping someone? I don't understand what they had to do with the rice. But I feel as well, like maybe it's because like, I feel advertisements when we were younger are more memorable also because we were watching TV all the time. Yeah, we had more shared experience. Now like you don't really have like a shared experience with a YouTube ad anymore. No, it's within your bubble. It's when your algorithm, your circle. Yeah. You'll be like, I'll be like, oh, I watched a guy who reviews tools and I'm like, I don't know why. I'm not going to have tools. I just like watching him review them. Do you actually watch a tool reviewer? This is a great guy called Project Farm. He reviews these tools and he does an extremely fun. People watching him who definitely don't use these tools either. He's just very fun. He's very enthusiastic. He'll do these own makeshift tests in his home. He'll buy all the tools. He'll buy every drill from every company. And he's like from Oklahoma probably or something. Look at this guy. Look at this. Do you tell me you don't want to watch this guy? Show me Project Farm. Here he is. Like just play his, can I just say you can understand the energy. Yep. Which jump starter is the best? He does these tests. All right. He reviews everything. The most shit that you didn't even heard of. And it's great. Because if I ever want to fucking drill or a wrench, I know that he's done it. That's actually kind of sick. He's just got a great voice too. Yeah. It's stimulating. I don't think you want to put it on when you're trying to fall asleep. It's almost like telemarketing. He's got a telemarketing voice. When I go to sleep, it's history or... History's good for sleeping. History's great for sleeping. History's so good for sleeping. Because all the narratives are like in 1930s. Oh, and this is what happened. And then this happened. But he wasn't very happy about it. Do you have like go to content on YouTube where you just like, you know what? I just want some downtime. Do you just like play whatever is on the first thing you see on the YouTube ad? Yeah, sometimes. I've been lately, I've been doing a particular podcast. I won't say the name. It's because it comes a lot of it gets clipped and it's up on the YouTube. Once you've watched a couple of them, then you get served on. Oh, yeah. Don't even dare watch a podcast on YouTube. They will never let you watch. That's the worst. Only YouTube can do that. Don't even dare watch a podcast. That's the worst. If you dare click on one click, it's like here you go, here you go. So here's the entire channel. Your entire algorithm will be taken over by this one podcast now. Yeah, that man. Yeah, it's so fast now. So what is the secret to TikTok as since none of us use TikTok? Just dance. Gonna be okay. Dude, it's dance. The one thing I can't do. But what if we can't dance? The key is you have to make sure things are in a good location and you got to make sure people are gonna get to it and it's instantly visually stimulating enough that they won't just do the thumb off to the next one. So you got to get them in the first like instant. And then again, within the next two seconds, you got to start doing something that's gonna keep them there. And so for instance, if we shoot videos inside, they always do way worse than a video outside. Really? So visually unstimulating. It's a white wall and a photocopier. You know what I'm saying? So unless what we're doing is bananas. It's like a costume like this, which is all colorful and whatnot. It's very helpful for that kind of situation. It's the color by itself. Shout out to Marmalade who made this by the way. She did a very good job. Interestingly speaking of dancing, sorry, I'm sorry, this is a tangent. But Marmalade who made our costumes, when you guys did the maid cafe in Australia, a couple years ago, she was at that, she was the person who taught you to dance that. Ski, ski, ski, ski, ski, ski, ski. Oh my God! Marmalade underscore cons, I think. Anyway. That's so awesome. Yeah. So if you have something like this, then that's very helpful. But you know, it's you got to... Well, that's why is that where you run up the camera? Yeah, well, that's, this is, running at the camera is a good way to get out of things. You have a nice, that cover the camera. It's a good cut point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. Yes. And running in the camera as well. We end the pockets by jumping at the front. Do you actually do that? We can do that. I know you'll do that. You'll flip the table out. You'll do that. Yeah, but no, running at the camera is good as well, because otherwise, when you start for that couple of seconds before the dance starts. There's some action happening. Exactly. Yeah. And so, also, if I'm going from far away towards it, because someone, because of your time to say, what's that? What the heck? And wants to engage. Right. It builds anticipation. Yes. Shiori, is everything I just said accurate enough? Yes, there you go. Shiori's the mastermind of the TikTok. Not me. I get told what to do. Right. Shiori, do you partake in the TikTok? Much in terms of like watching? Yes, but I find, I, though here's the problem with it. It's, it sucks you in. Yeah. And I have to actively, You know what I think is the sneakiest thing that they do, when you want to stop looking and closing the app, you swipe back, right? But it will always load one more TikTok when you swipe back. You have to swipe another time to actually close it. They've drilled into your brainstem. So like it's gone. You want to, you are literally trying to fucking get out. And they load you another one in the hopes that, in a last ditch effort, this other distraction will work. So you'd be like, wait, hang on, what was that kind of thing, right? In my case, you know, if Ladybeard comes up, it's like, wow, I got it. Connors for boy. I'm back in, I'm back in. I thought I was out, I was trying to get out. And they're like, we've got the Trump card. It's like being a hit man. You can never really get out. Fucking ridiculous. So yeah, it's, but it's great seeing you on this as well. Thank you man. It's on my eyes. So you can go look at my Tikki Toki at Ladybeard underscore Japan, my group Babybeard at Babybeard underscore Japan, our new single, Mucho. First single from the album, Oma Kase, coming soon. Dave, you got to memorize. Recently we had a, we had an idol on and they were telling us that the amount of rehearsals they were doing was quite intense. How much your time is spent rehearsing versus doing other things? A lot, hang on. So this idol was a Japanese idol, yes? Yes, yes. Okay, and they're doing only shows in Japan or they're doing international as well? Mostly Japan. Mostly Japanese. So this is a whole big conversation. So in Japan, the idols, right? There's kind of a distinction between idols and artists. Idols are really the focus of the whole thing is just, doh, and just these little girls. Little girls who go on stage and the main thing is these little girls are cute. That's the main point. But once you're 23, 24, definitely 25, you've lost that little girl magic. So now you have to actually do a good show. So this is where you get the distinction between being an idol and being an artist. So we behave much more like artists because as you can see, my little girl magic disappeared a long time ago. So sorry. But I imagine you're still rehearsing and then you're a incredible master. Yeah, we rehearse our butts off really. Because otherwise, like with a show like what we're doing, this has always been the case with Ladybeard. Ladybeard is something that it's either gonna be amazing or terrible. Like it's not gonna be a 60% okay show. Being an Aussie in a skirt doing heavy metal J-pop for a wrestling throne. You know what I'm saying? With two girls, it's absurd. So therefore it's lots and lots and lots of rocks rehearsal. If all three of us do the same thing at the same time, that's a great show. And it's emotionally stimulating for the audience. And it genuinely is an experience worth exchanging resources to consume. If we half-ass the rehearsal, things are butter, butter, everything's a little bit wishy-washy over the place. You can see it in the fans if we don't do a good job. You see them go from this engagement to, you know what I'm saying? But that's the difference. So basically you either die as an idol or you live long enough to be an artist. Yeah, pretty much. So what's like the how often a week are you guys rehearsing? Dude, we have shows coming up. We'll do two or three days a week and we'll do five to eight hour long rehearsals. Damn! Eight hours is a big one. Eight hours of dancing. Damn, a lot of rehearsal. Yeah, yeah. We didn't even know what we were doing for our show until a week before. Like a week before. Really? I guess we'll do this. Jealous of your style. We did a test show in front of about 20 people in LA just to like kind of test the formula. And they were like, yeah, that was good. And we're like, all right, 26 of those to go. But you know, we had a show that was mostly audience interaction. Yes. You know. You can't really rehearse. Yeah. But it also gives us so much leeway because it's just like you could, we could just say anything or do anything. Yeah. As long as we're doing something. We were able to play with the audience and feed off the energy and back the energy into them as well. What was the spot? Cause like there were no videos of your shows cause you didn't allow video cameras. Yes. There was one. Oh, we recorded one show. Yeah. I haven't seen that video. I've only seen photos. Please explain to me what the biggest clown segment was. Oh. Joey, your head is probably the most biggest clownest. Most often. As the clown of the show, I will explain. So the show basically consisted of three kind of main game shows and the final game show was this thing called the Trash Taste Court. Okay. Where basically one of us would play as the kind of the judge, if you will, with the mallet there. And then the other two would have to draw out of a hat to basically. Oh, thanks. Oh, that's heavy as balls. Yeah. Don't, I'm scared now. That's gonna be a murder weapon. I just wanted you to, you know, sense the power. Yeah. I appreciate that very much. This is like Chris Hemsworth Thor, right? This is what this is. Get my hammer. No one else can pick that up. So the judge would have that and, you know, use that as the gavel. Oh, I see. And then, well, yeah, it's a heavy boy. It's good. And then the other two contestants would draw out of a hat and inside this hat would be a bunch of our past, I guess, opinions that we've had that might have been a little contentious or he. Oh, a contentious opinion. Yeah. We've had, because we had plenty of those. Really? And we would pick out of the hat, one person who goes first would have to argue for that opinion no matter what. Oh, wow. And each person would have to argue against it. And each person would have 60 seconds to try and convince the crowd that they had the better case for the argument. Yes. That's awesome. But it could have been any of ours opinion. But it could have been any of our opinions. So maybe I would have to defend Connor's opinion. Yeah. Even if we may not personally agree with it, you had to agree or disagree with whatever you pulled out. That's an awesome spot. Whoever lost it had to be the biggest clown. Yeah. And then you do three rounds and then at the end of the show, whoever lost would come out in a clown costume. Right. And that was the biggest clown. It was a great kind of highlight to the show because it was like a couple of five, 10 minutes of really like pretty intense interaction from the audience, shouting, screaming. And so your show is essentially an improvised comedy show. Yes. Kind of. Yes. There is structure. Some structure. Was it like three chairs on a stage kind of arrangement? Did you have an MC? No, it was literally just three chairs and a mic. And two mics on the stage. It was normally about two hours. Right. Yeah. Two and a half, two hours. Two in America doing that. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. But I think I don't want to tour again. Why not? What's wrong with touring? It's just too much. Too much. I miss my home too much. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Would you do 26 dates in 40 days? Yeah. 26 shows in 40 years. So hang on. And then between those, was it travel in the morning, do a show at night? Travel at night. So we were on the bus the entire time. So we could travel as we were sleeping. Oh, like, so that was definitely why I said it. And that was like, definitely made it really fun. But you know, occasionally you just like, man, I just want to have something be the same for once, but having to kind of adapt to a new place. Find the bathroom every time you get off the bus. Find the bathroom. Showering is kind of like, where do I shower? I loved it. Did you? Yeah, I'd love to tour again. He's built for the tour, I'd say. I loved it. We should go and tour together. Sure. Let's do it. We'll figure it out. I'm down. What am I going to do? I don't know. That's your department. I'm here to sign the stays. Just doing this. Well, we'll open for you or you could open for us. So however you want to do it, we'll figure it out. I think if anything, I should have for you. You have the more grander show than I could ever do. I don't have three billion followers on the YouTubey though. So what am I going to do? What am I going to do? What do you guys do? What are you going to do? Are you going to do us? You've done music. Yeah, okay. But if it's these three, right? Like it's us three. No, no, it's just you. I have no interest in tour. No, but I'll say, if it's us three, then I'm a little more confident on stage because I have people to bounce off of. I don't know what I'm going to do on stage by myself. What do you do? I could create a monologue. I'm just like slam poetry for 15 minutes. Who could it be? If you put down your thoughts in the form of slam poetry, I reckon your fans are very much enjoying that. I feel like I'm going to get a lot of baby fans who do not like me. What are you talking about? Dude, about 95% of my fans know who I am from this podcast last time. So I'm pretty sure they'll love it, bro. I don't know what we're doing. We'll talk about it off camera. We'll talk about it off camera. Sorry, I need to bring something up. I forgot to do this earlier. My phone's in my pocket and I need to get it out so I can go through this next thing that I wanted to talk about. So I told you already about my escalator bag experience earlier today. Actually after, because I went and this happened, I had to go and get a new bag. Okay, okay. I got on the train and I actually wrote a haiku about the experience. So I want to reach you my haiku about my torn plastic bag. Dude, I'm putting some kind of, put some like really like, Yeah, put some music, you know, filter cherry blossom silence in the room. Here we are. Plastic shopping bag. Utility of renown. Escalate to death. A haiku by Ladybeard. Thank you very much. It moves a man. To do such resonating words. When he said escalator, I just... Escalate. Escalator would be too many syllables for my haiku. Have you ever shown a ride on haiku in Japanese? Japanese has so many damn syllables. It's hard to ride a haiku. You can like say, My name's... That's the end of your line. No, no, I think actually riding a haiku in Japanese is easier. Get out of here really? Yeah, because with Japanese... Ride one right now. Konnichiwa. Konnichiwa. Come now. Come now, Joyce. It's easy, right? It's easy because hiragana is literally built on syllables. So the rule of thumb with a haiku is five characters, seven characters, five characters. Whereas with English, you can have a word that is say two syllables or three syllables. But then you can have another word that is probably twice as long that also has three syllables. So every single time you have to sound out every word and to be like, wait, is this five syllables? Wait, depending on how you pronounce it, it could be six syllables. But saying a basic word in Japanese, one word requires 492 syllables. That's why it's poetry. This is your show. This is your show, my friend. This is the show where I take it off road. Joyce, I do not... I'm not claiming to be a haiku master. I'm not always... Joyce gets to be delivering haikus across America. That's what I can do. That's what I can do to open your show. I can just like haiku readings for 20 minutes. You'll get more fans than we will be once. But that actually, honestly, reading my haiku just now gave me an excuse to look at my notes as well, which was helpful because I have another conversation. Another conversation I've had. Please do tell it. That's what we were talking about regarding barn and regarding voice directing. How do you feel the future of anime and voice acting looks like in regards to the AI? Do you think AI is coming from voice actors jobs? I have an opinion. I'll hear yours first. That's a loaded question. That is a very, very loaded question. I'll tell you my opinion first if you want to. So I think... So every convention that we go to, the guests besides us, besides the musical guests, are made up primarily always of voice actors. So it is my belief, or my opinion, that anime and voice acting is very much a human-to-human type business. Now this may take a generational shift, but everyone wants to know the human behind the voice for Goku or Grel or whoever it may be, you see. So to that end, I think for established voice actors, there's no short-term risk to their careers from AI. However, I do think for young voice actors, it creates a problem because when I started voice acting, the roles you start with when you don't know what you're doing, like man one, you know, just some guy who goes, oh yeah, and that's how you cut your teeth, right? Yeah, it's an interesting thing because obviously there was also recently Disney got in a bit of heat because they'd use an AI actor. Oh, do they? I didn't know this. Tell me the story. I don't know the story. I think... Do you bring whatever that up, please, Kai? Bring it up, Kai. I think it's Kai. Bring it up, Kai. Kai, let's hear it for Kai. What a legend! Yes! He's the Kai'sicle! Yeah, this was a whole thing. I don't know how. I don't know. Let's just try to replace actors with AI. Was it Disney or was it just someone... Was it just Hollywood? Someone... Type in AI actor. Someone from made an AI actor and they were like gonna get signed up by an agency. Oh, I did see something about this. That's right. Here she is. But, you know, like you said, I 100% agree with actors that are working now and established zero worries. I think they'll work... Will definitely be coming your way. One aspect that I've definitely known it is, you know, we were watching YouTube a lot and there are so many of these videos that AI narrated. Yeah, yes. And it is horrible to listen to because I'm like, this sounds so fucking soulless from my perspective. But obviously I'm a voice actor, so I care about that. But it is obviously... People don't mind is what I've realized is that most people don't care. They're very quick to accept that this is okay. And like you said, those are the types of stuff that you would normally have kind of come up on doing. You would have, you know, I know a lot of people who got into voice acting from doing YouTube videos or being on some established channels. Like I have a friend who did the Watch Mojo stuff. Oh, yes. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that kind of stuff. And that was another thing that like, I imagine that type of video is going to be phased out. I do think though, as AI becomes more prevalent, the demand for human media will be more. Like I think people will then take pride in the fact that this is a full human production, which seems diabolical to have to even mention or say, but I think that it'll become a point of pride for a lot of productions and I want from consumers. Because I don't think anybody wants to watch a drama or a TV show that has an AI actor or... But yeah, I do think the background stuff and the extras, that's a big worry because obviously extras are cumbersome to have to deal with, to have to get 300 people in a room and pay all of them. That's an expensive thing for something that nobody thinks about or pays attention to. I can understand why studios might want to find a way to make that easier, but I don't think AI is the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I think it's coming. It's coming and it's going to happen regardless if we want it to or not. I don't even think it's necessarily a anime or voice acting thing. This is an industry-wide thing on every entertainment media, whether that be music or YouTube even, we've already seen, especially on platforms like YouTube, TikTok, Shorts, AI has just become so prevalent to the point where sometimes you see a video and you're just like, is this AI generated or is this not? And I think in a way, the only... I guess the only... There's not many positives I can think of. The only positive is that I think there will be a culling for... Okay, a culling for, let's say... A culling approach is... Okay, here's the thing. Because it's made me reflect on my own content, right? And I'm like, it makes me think, is the content I'm making, is it something that an AI can replicate? And let's just say there are some videos. Let's say I do a react video or something like that. I know as a content creator, this is low effort content. And this is low effort content that takes just very, very little effort. And eventually it is going to be something that the average consumer is not going to care whether it's me or some fucking AI thing reacting to it. I don't know. Have you seen the on TikTok? I don't know if he's still doing it, but Jason Derulo was doing reaction content. And people found out very quickly that he was just reusing the same reaction clip to everything. Oh, wow. He's literally reacted to one thing and then just took that video and just put it on every single reaction video. People didn't notice for years. People noticed. Oh, yeah. No, they did notice after a while. They were like, wait, why is he reacting the exact same way? I think because there was nobody who gave a fuck about Jason Derulo. But then when people found out, they found it fucking hilarious. Yeah. Couldn't even be bothered to react to every clip. Yeah. So funny. And I think in general, it's just going to be impossible to keep up with, I guess, the amount of slop that's being made. The problem comes when that slop takes over 90% of all media that you ever see. Yeah. Surely then that puts a premium on, as you were saying, human creative content, but also the live experience. Surely now you better get used to touring because the live experience is going to become something valuable. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You can't fake that. And not yet anyway. No, not yet. Wait till they have the idle bots. Yeah. Wait till they have the holograms that are way too real. And it's not so much there. I don't think there was going to be a need there. I think my biggest worry is discoverability because there is, you are, you know, I 100% think that humans will always want a human kind of like connection there. But let's say 90% of the media that a lot of people consume, they don't really care. They're just scrolling, you know, and they are, especially in this. It's just something to pass the time. And a lot of the times, you know, you watch some highlight video or something or you watch a react video, you don't really care that much. You're, you know, a lot of the times you're watching shorts, you're just consuming, consuming, consuming. And unfortunately, that is something that I think is going to be hard to combat when there's so much AI stuff coming out. I think people will eventually get tired of scrolling and slop. You think so? I think so. I think it's also probably generational. And I think, It's going to be a pushback, I think. I think you get to, you know, pass the age of 25, this becomes less appealing. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you want to have more fulfillment in your life. Yeah. Distraction is less appealing as opposed to. But do you think, do you think our parents had this conversation when, you know, when social media got introduced, when TV got introduced, you know, when the radio, when the old wireless, the old horse racing, horse racing will destroy society. 100% yeah. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think it's always going to be a self-regulation thing. I think you can't expect these companies to be reasonable. And I think unfortunately, yeah, you just have to hope that people can self-regulate. So if, if I imagine for a minute that barn was a 45 minute long production. Yes. And you had several crowds. Oh, screw it. Even for the production of the barn currently is for that scene when she's in the office and you need all the background voices. If someone had come to you and said, we could chop $10,000 off the budget for this. If we just do those voices with AI. Oh no, no, I would not do that. But those are the some conversations that will, will happen. 100% yeah. And it'll most likely. I mean, they probably have happened and we just don't know that. Yeah. Well, in the case of this project exists because we could cut that budget because we could use the AI. Yeah. You also don't have to credit them. So you would never know if they used it. I think, I think what the sad part is that it will be kind of what you suggest which is we'll have these real people who are acting in it, but so much AI doing the other stuff that it starts to blow this line of like, I don't even know how I feel about this now. Yeah. Because this was stuff that was not, you know, being shown. But then I think again, I think human, there'll be a lot of pride to be taken in the fact that everything's fucking human. Yeah. And then how long do you think it is to we get to a totally dead internet when it's reacting to bots? We're getting close. I mean, I mean, I almost, I mean, this bots the fucking reply to bots. It's a common thing that happens. Really? Are we going to have AI reactors reacting to AI content? They might. I think we're close to getting there where at least, you know, you sometimes you search on Google and you get like an AI summary and it's been proven that sometimes the AI summary of a certain subject is referencing AI articles about that topic. So you have this disparity between information. It's being trained on itself. Yeah. Or a boros. Yeah. Until we get, wow, until we get to a vastly different world when the AGI is just so prominent that we essentially have two species on Earth, us and the AI, the consumer will always be human. Yeah. So therefore you are always stuck with the fact that especially if you're, if you're a company or something, it's the humans who have the money to give you. So you eventually need to sell to the humans. I want to know Lady Beers thoughts on if AGI is going to happen anytime soon. I mean, my friends who are look, everyone who wants it to happen is convinced it's going to happen. Yeah. Everyone who's I'm not convinced. You're not convinced. No, I think, I think the market will crash way before that happens. But how will the market crashing affect the? Because this is all like a bubble right now. It's crazy. All the money doesn't the AI, like I said, it's an Auroboros and it feeds itself. Yeah. But I don't think it's feeding itself good. I don't think the system sophisticated enough. And I don't think it can get there and I'm not in the next 10, 20 years. Really? I don't think so. It might be an unsustainable system. I think that all these companies, because you hear about what's going on with all the money involved in it. You're like, I think it's all going to crash the market. Like these companies are going to run out of money before that we get there. From a financial standpoint, it definitely seems to me like a bubble. It seems to me like 2008 and the Dutch tulips and all that. Well, apparently it's what they, I swear thing that said it was like it's, I think seven times bigger than the dot com bubble or, Yeah, that had to hit really. Yeah, right now, right now. Yeah. But look, I mean, I just don't have faith that these things are going to be smarter than us in the next like five years. I don't think these companies have enough money to last that long because they also, they're getting in. It's like open AI is getting investment from Nvidia and Nvidia is investing in another company that is building the data centers. And so it's all this, they're all just giving money to each other. And if everyone knows the, you know, the perpetual motion machine, the thing you have to do is hide the battery. It doesn't fucking, there's no way it's sustainable. This is not going to work. So that my prediction is that in like, you know, we'll see some kind of massive economic crash that will put an end to this or at least an end to what it looks like now. And then it'll have to pick back up and eventually it will happen. But I don't think it'll happen anytime soon. It's all happened. I think it will happen. This AGI stuff at some point. But I think the slop fast that they're trying to feed you right now is it's it's just all smoke and mirrors because that's why now even like open AI, their strategy is that they have to pivot to being social media and feeding you slop videos. Really? Is that what they're doing? Yeah. Cause they were running out of cash flow. And so right now their strategy is, okay, well, let's get people using this as like a slop maker, some kind of social media to hopefully stem the bleeding because they're like burning through money. Really? Are they? Yeah. There's no, there's no plan of how to make a sustainable right now of like how to make money. AGI is the plan. Get to AGI, figure it out. Cause then once it's AGI, it's infinite money. And once, yeah, the AGI can tell you how to make money. Are you familiar with AGI? No. AGI is the concept that this AI will get to the point where it is now better at humans than everything. Like, or like it can beat a human and nearly everything. So like the AI over is taking over basically. Kind of. Yeah. So the thought process is if a company manages to do that, they will pretty much, it's the humongous equivocally be the most valuable company in the world. Cause now they control something that can replace humans in many, many fields. Yeah. Like straight up. Right. Like no questions asked. Like it can be a better doctor than a doctor. That's, really? Well, that's what the thought process with the AGI is that like it can do these things better than anything a human could ever do. Yeah. Yeah. Which, which, and I think it's very wishful thinking in the current, I think, I'm not saying it won't ever get there. I think we have time and we're self-destructive enough as the human race to do it. We, we, we would do it and companies are driven enough. But I think like right now what's happening, it's all fucked. It's all a bubble that's going to explode and it's going to, it's going to be the everyday person who feels the consequences, not these billionaire fucks who are doing it. So we, it's like, you know, we're going to feel this hurt for these morons who are sinking in trillions into this thing. And they're like, the economics are great right now. Everyone buy, buy, buy. And then, you know, buy, buy 401k, buy, buy retirement for everyone else. I think that's what's going to happen. That's my Duma perspective on all this. That went, that's very interesting. That conversation went to a far grander level. I honestly expected it to. I apologize. I mean, I think it's impossible to discuss, you know, you start off with anime and you realize, wait, it's not just anime. It's everything. Everything. It, because everything is going through the same thing right now. Can you Google open AI operating costs? I take, it's an unfathomable amount of money. It takes tremendous amounts of water and electricity. Yeah, they always left. If we cutting now, continue. We keep going. Open AI operating costs. Look at Joey. Look at look at Joey right there. Oh, I have a hungry and father. Open AI spends about $2 to make $2.25 to make $1. And that's pretty what they're willing to say publicly. They spend $2.25 to make one. Yeah. Yes. And there's no clear. Way of how they're planning to, you know, really make money. I mean, it sounds like a bit of the old Bernie Madoff, doesn't it? It sounds like a little bit of the old up and sell it on. And that was someone else's problem. Yeah. But unlike where I felt like with other companies, because, you know, this is a very San Francisco idealist way of making businesses, which is just make something big and figure it out. I think the amount of money that is being pumped into this and the amount of like the, you know, the amount of money that's being pumped into this. Like the, you know, the stock market that is reliant on these companies is very dangerous. Because, you know, like the S&P 500 is like mostly these fucking seven companies. Is it really? Yeah. How much of the can you percentage of S&P 500 that is seven companies? This became a very different kind of podcast. Don't take my advice. This is something your fans are interested in. Oh, we talk about every topic. So. All right. By way, yeah, it's something like, look, it's something. Man, this conversation about D-Boy. We're adulting. And the video is 7% of the top 500. That's like, it should never be like that. Wow. I see. So now if there's a tech bubble that burst, it's like 7%, 6%, 6%, 3%, 3%, 6%, and then Google is like top two. So like, if tech, if this tech bubble bursts, it's like 30, 25% of the entire economy. I'm pretty sure it's more than that. But yes, I have a good point. So everyone's retirement savings are everything. This is going to be a massive fucking colossal disaster. Turns out you're very well educated. Well, I'm not. I just pretend. Look at those anime girls. They're very appealing up there. No, I try to keep up with this because, you know, you're like, I'm hopefully we've all gotten to the age now. We're like, what do when we no longer good on camera? You know, I'm too talk to people and not like, we got to put it in this and then we put it all in a video. I'm like that. Do you boys have a the other side of this plan? Are you guys going to make some small humans? I would like to. I would like to. Yes. I'm not sure. No, I'm not sure. I haven't reached that age yet where I think the clock strikes me. I think there'll be a primal desire at some point. I don't know. So, but hang on. But the small humans aside, what's the other side of this plan? Do you have a plan? That's a great idea. A great question. Sorry. No, I think I don't know. I'm not sure what yours is, but for me, it would be nice to just be able to hopefully live comfortably one day when this is when we don't, you know, I'd like to be in the position that when I say that would, you know, when I feel like I'm done with all forming beyond camera that I can just kind of be like, all right, don't have to worry about money. That would be nice. Yeah. That would be the best. I think the dream for most people being able to say one of you're done, that you can actually be done. Yeah. There's no worry about that or any of this stuff. I think that's the best way to come back. Chris Rock is back because he got divorced and lost all his money. He's touring, doing the comedy tour. Yeah. I think what Chris Rock needed was a great lawyer to start with and some kind of prenuptial agreement. Yeah. But what about you yourself? Was there a chance? Yeah, I have a big old plan, but I don't want to publicly discuss it. Of course. Because the plans until this point, none of them played out the way I thought I would. So I don't want to lock myself into something. And that's the beauty of plans is that you hope that along the way you at least laid some bricks that kind of put you in a good direction that allow you to work off of. Sometimes you make a plan and then nothing goes according to plan, but then you realize you actually reached the same goal you were going for with the original plan. You learn things. You learn things. You realize that. Yeah. It's an interesting. If you're always working towards something and giving yourself some form of goal, it's just beneficial, right? It allows you to kind of take stock of what's going on and sort of aimlessly just being like, I'll just perform again. I'll just keep performing. Oh, I need to find something or find some purpose in there. I think I speak on behalf of all of us when we say that I don't think any of us were expecting to do what we currently do for as long as we've done it. Yeah. So that didn't all of it. So for some reason, you know what? It's going all right. We're coming in with the assumption that next year we won't have a job. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, which could happen. Yeah. Which is going to be, do you feel like Ladybeard is going to be the play for the next long term or is it eventually you think I might try something else or do you seem like a creative nuclear reactor? Yes. Like just so much. I have a spilling out. I have a Chernobyl. That's what I named my daughter. Chernobyl beard. I mean, to be fair, I think you have this like unstoppable energy force. Thanks, man. I got various things I want to do. I've got a lot more Ladybeard left in me. A lot more things. It's kind of other non Ladybeard things I want to do as well, but you know, like one thing at a time. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm going to be a little bit more creative now. I just think running a cafe sounds nice, but I probably won't, but it just sounds really nice in my head. That's my retirement plan. It's the chill. It's the thought. Yeah. It's the thought. You could run an Airbnb in Niigata or something like that. You know what I'm saying? I want to interact with the customers. It'd be nice. I can do that now. I like the idea of, you know, having some form of like feel like there's a community in that I'm playing a role in it. I think that is more appealing every day. Especially with online, when you feel like I'm not connecting, you know, there's so much like arguing and you're like, I'm just going to make a cafe. And when I see Tim every day, I'll get to know Tim one day at a time, one coffee, and then we'll get to chat. And then that's some role that we play in each other's lives. The small tight-knit community. That's what the world was. Yeah. Yeah. It really was. Yeah. We're going back to the roots. Yeah. Now we're going back. The liking's come over the horizon. You need all the community you can get. Ladybeard will rise one day and you will not be ready. You see the pink dress in the horizon. Oh God. Do you know? Here he comes. TSA does not ask why he's here. They politely ask him, please spare us. I can hear him from across the horizon. He's coming. Probably with my strategy, I'd be so noisy that I have plenty of time to prepare. I'd be like, would there be no sneak attacks available? Oh my God. It's war plan. The thing. I had a thing. I was about to say a thing, but I forgot what the thing was as I was about to say it. You know what happens is the worst. Well, yeah. We've done a podcast for five years. Yes, we've been there all the time. I take this opportunity to plug my musician, Endigo. Please do. Hey, our new album, or Marcusset, is being made by the amazing Endigo. Endigo's a fantastic musician. Making all the tracks on our album thrilled to be working with Endigo. Please go check out Macho on the internet and our new release, the semifinal that I was supposed to tell you about earlier, but didn't. Yes. And TikTok. And TikTok. And TikTok. And TikTok. And TikTok. The old Instagram, the Uchiyubi, the Twitty Twitty, the Face of McBook, all these things in the stock market that we just complained about. There's all the things I'm asking you to go to. We need to make a bubble of LadyBee. We need to pump those numbers. Make it unsustainable. We need a lady bubble. We need a lady bubble. We need a lady bubble. 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