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Before You Say ‘I Do’ — Real Talk From the Robertson Girls | Sadie, Mary Kate & Abby

56 min
Nov 12, 20257 months ago
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Summary

The Robertson sisters discuss their dating, engagement, and wedding experiences, sharing personal stories about meeting their husbands, navigating early marriage, and planning weddings. They offer advice on communication in relationships, managing expectations with partners, and enjoying the early stages of marriage despite its challenges.

Insights
  • Expectation without communication results in frustration—couples must explicitly discuss responsibilities rather than assume partners know what's needed
  • Early marriage has distinct phases with different challenges; the first year isn't universally the hardest, and couples should enjoy the unique freedoms of early marriage before children
  • Gender roles in marriage naturally differ (nurturing vs. play-based parenting), and comparing workloads creates frustration; acknowledging different responsibilities reduces conflict
  • Wedding planning and execution require intentionality about balancing couple focus with honoring guests; large weddings risk missing intimate moments without deliberate planning
  • Moving away from family after marriage can be positive for relationship development if framed as growth opportunity rather than loss
Trends
Young marriage (18-19 years old) remains common in certain faith-based communities despite societal shifts toward older marriage agesPre-engagement wedding planning (dress shopping, venue booking) is increasingly normalized due to long lead times for vendorsSocial media (TikTok) is becoming primary source for trend discovery and relationship content among younger demographicsCouples are increasingly intentional about creating private moments during large wedding receptions to process the significance of the daySecond-line jazz funeral traditions are being incorporated into modern wedding celebrations as unique cultural elementsPostpartum body changes require different bridesmaid dress fitting strategies than pre-pregnancy fittingsLong-distance relationships during early dating/engagement are becoming more common and accepted in younger generations
Topics
Dating and relationship development in faith-based communitiesEngagement timing and surprise proposalsWedding dress selection and customizationWedding planning and execution logisticsEarly marriage communication and expectationsGender roles and parenting responsibilities in marriageMoving and relocation after marriageLong-distance relationshipsWedding themes and designBridesmaid dress fitting for pregnant attendeesSocial media presence and TikTok trendsFamily dynamics in marriagePostpartum recovery and wedding attendanceIntentionality in marriage and relationshipsYouth group and church-based relationship formation
Companies
HungerRoot
Meal planning and grocery delivery service featured in pre-roll advertisement with 40% discount offer
Shopify
E-commerce platform mentioned in mid-roll ad as solution for business management and online store creation
Indeed
Job recruitment platform featured in sponsored segment about hiring quality candidates
Liberty University
Higher education institution where one guest attended college after high school
People
Sadie Robertson
Podcast host and sister-in-law interviewing guests about relationships and marriage experiences
Abby Robertson
Guest discussing her relationship with Will, TikTok presence, and wedding planning experience
Mary Kate Robertson
Guest sharing her marriage to John Luke, early engagement at 18, and wedding dress design process
Will Robertson
Abby's husband mentioned for surprise proposal at parking garage and TikTok dance content creation
John Luke Robertson
Mary Kate's husband who proposed with photo book and ring, married at age 19
Christian
Sadie's husband referenced for long-distance relationship, Auburn relocation, and parenting dynamics
Bella Robertson
Family member whose wedding was discussed; bridesmaid dress incident and postpartum wedding attendance
Rebecca
Guest mentioned as making people laugh during previous podcast appearances
Derek Huff
Guest who appeared at farm event during proposal story discussion
Mark Ballas
Performer at Mary Kate's wedding reception
Quotes
"Expectation without communication results in frustration."
Mary Kate Robertson
"Just because it's hard doesn't mean you shouldn't be doing it. Yeah. And it's bad."
Abby Robertson
"I feel like we hurt each other, you know, in immaturity. Like that's the price that you pay with getting married young."
Mary Kate Robertson
"When you have kids like there's so much you're doing that you don't create spaces to like just be your silly, goofy self."
Mary Kate Robertson
"There's different roles, different responsibilities, you know, and you can talk about it and if you don't feel like something's fair in it."
Abby Robertson
Full Transcript
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I don't know. Will and I did something together at one point and then I feel like that may have been it. I was about to say. I was like, I feel like I've watched several and Will's been in several that I've just been here to watch, but I haven't been in actually a lot, but it feels like I have. It feels like you have. Oh, didn't we do a girls one with the like mom? Were you in that at one point? Maybe not. I don't know. Oh my gosh. Well, welcome. So your big debut. You have been taking TikTok by storm. I've been seeing a lot of who will say you're their favorite Robertson. No offense to me and you, but for good reason. It's been fun. I always tell you this, but you're my favorite TikTok follow and pretty much the only one I actually follow. I follow people, but I always forget about TikTok. And then I'm like, oh, I need to go see what Will and Abby have posted. And then I get inspired and you probably are annoyed by this. And then I do all the ones that you all did. No, I'm not annoyed by it at all. I think it's funny. I know. This is the only place I find my trends or Will and Abby's page. I like the trend setters. Yeah, I really are. So follow the trends. Hey, that's okay. We like put our spin on trends, but I think that's what everybody does. Oh yeah. It really is true. And you're good dancers too. Thanks. I know. I didn't know Will had it in him. Will does. He's a little bit of coaching. You just bring it out of him. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I bring it out of him. You're a good coach there because you did dance since like you were a baby, huh? I did dance for 10 years and I did it for four or five years competitively. Wow. Yeah. So I just pick up. I knew you did it for a long time. Yeah. I pick up choreography really quickly, I feel like. And I just like know how to like explain it because it's been explained to me for so long. That's helpful because that's why I ask you about the TikTok trends because I don't know why like when I'm watching it, I guess because it's a mirror. I have a hard time figuring out like where my body's supposed to be. And you always pick it up and you know, it's just like this. I'm like, oh, okay. Mary Kay, we had our day before TikTok when we would post our dance videos to YouTube. We did. That's bold. It was bold. We only did it once. Well, Will was who made that beat for us. Oh yeah. I do remember. Yeah. I never see that. No, I need to see this. Is it still on YouTube? Okay. I hope so. I think it was on your Instagram. We had to speed this thing up, but I just have to see if this is on the internet still because I want to say it did better than it should. No, it was like it actually did. It was weird. But it was really fun. It was really fun. I think it was on your, you think you posted it? I don't know. I think it was on your Instagram. I don't even know if you can, oh yeah. Did you find it? Oh yeah. Nine years ago, 372,000 views on YouTube. This one? This one? Oh, that's Will in the back. Before there was TikTok. We at Mary Kay were vibing. I came out. We made this choreography. This is creepy. I've never laughed this hard at it though. I always thought it was so cool. It was good. And we had our plaid skirts around our waist. Oh no. Oh no, no, no. There's more. That's not me though, is it? That's just you. That's someone I haven't even talked to in so long. I didn't know I attached that to the backside of that. I'm officially crying. It seems like every time I've been on here, I end up laughing, crying. Last time it was Rebecca though. Yeah, Rebecca will make you laugh till you cry. That is a shame because I worked my butt off on this podcast and put out great content and that gets 375,000 views. Come on. Give it to us. Can this podcast exceed that view? That is so funny. Okay, now I gotta get my mascara off. I totally don't even know how I thought about that in this moment. Okay, anyways, back to Abby actually being a really impressive Cory R. for TikTok. And the fact that we're actually going to talk about relationships. Will and Abby have become TikTok. Y'all are a couple people follow and love, but not everybody probably knows your origin story. How you started dating, how y'all met. So tell us a little bit about you and Will's love story. Yeah, I feel like everybody asks us all the time and we just give the short version, but... We met our junior friend, junior, no, sophomore and junior year of high school. I was a sophomore of Will's, a junior. And we were just friends for a super long time. We met in youth group and we just had a blast just being friends together. We were in lots of different small groups together. And we soon realized that we were a little bit more than friends. We were crushing on each other a good bit and got together our junior and senior year right before COVID happened. And COVID happened and we like our first date, we went up to the top of a parking garage because everything was closed. We couldn't go out to eat anywhere. So we picked up food and went to the top of the parking garage and had our first date and everything just kind of happened after that. We did long distance. Which this is coming back to me now because y'all dated in secret for a little bit. Oh my God, I do remember that. It wasn't really secret. Will just didn't tell anybody about it. He didn't tell anyone for months. But it was COVID so it was a weird time. It was. Because we see each other so often. It was like, what? Hold on. I remember that. That was fun and exciting. That was exciting. So when y'all were crushing on each other, who made the first move to let the other one know, hey, I kind of like you? I think it was me. I honestly don't even remember really like the details of it. But yeah, I think it was me. I kind of was like, do you not like see what's going on here? Like what are we doing? Sometimes I think the girl has to just like call it the way they're seeing it. You know? Sometimes the boys, you know, I think the boy should pursue, but I think the girl can give them confidence to do the pursuing. Like, hey, I like you. I'd like to be pursued by you. Yeah. It's funny because Will's back in the distance in this podcast video, and I keep glancing at him. I'm like, who made the first move? You're like, I don't know. Will's like, hey, no shame in that. No shame in that at all. I love that. That's so sweet. So then y'all, how long did y'all date for before you got engaged? We dated for, let's see, two and a half years, maybe three. Yeah. I think close to three years before we got engaged. Y'all were just, I guess, still in high school. We were in high school and then we did long distance for his first year of college while I finished high school. And then I moved to Lynchburg and did college at Liberty for a year. So that's already like a year and 10 months. Yeah. So. Okay. I have a funny question. I'm going to ask you all these same questions to make it. But like, when you look back at y'all's dating season versus how y'all are now, like, did y'all date differently? Like, were y'all more romantic or y'all more whatever? Because when I think about Bell and Jacob, it cracks me up. Just like, think about Bell and Jacob now. Okay. Bell and Jacob went stargazing on like their first date. That is hilarious to me because that is like so not something I can see Bell and Jacob doing now necessarily. I don't think anyone would be more extreme. I know. The difference then. They were so like young, romantic, like falling in love. And they're so like so in love, but they're so funny together and like kind of like make just like funny jokes about each other towards each other. But they're like best friends. But I can't see them doing that, you know? And it being like as serious and cute as it was then. Do y'all have, do you feel like you dated the same or? I feel like we're a little bit of the same, but we were way more like romantic and just like falling in love more like back then. Not to say things aren't romantic now, but we just like were more intentional with it. Yeah. Which is something we need to get back to. Yeah. It's your dating time. I feel like we were a lot more, I don't know, maybe like goofy innocence together because when you have kids like there's so much you're doing that you don't create spaces to like just be your silly, goofy self. But like when we were dating, Christian and I, we went on so many car rides because we were long distance. So whenever we would drive from Nashville to Auburn or Auburn to Nashville, that was like four hours in the car together. And we would just like jam out, like dance, laugh, like just be crazy. And we haven't done that in so long. Well, recently we went to Reston and it was like right before I had kid. And we listened to the craziest, like funniest throwback 2000s the whole way there and the whole way back. So we had like an hour and we just dance. We were laughing our heads off and we were like, gosh, we need to do this more like so good for the soul. Sometimes you like forget what you did when you were dating and it's good to remember because hey, maybe Bella and Jacob will hear this and be like, we should go start gazing. And if you do, you're welcome. Mary Kate, tell us about how you and Chan-Luk met because a lot of people know about a lot of people don't know. I remember whenever we started low and I had all the what ifs. What if I fail? What if it isn't where I need to be? 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Yeah, so we were 17 and 18, dated for like maybe six months, got engaged, got married when we were 19. What was y'all's dating season like? Yeah, it was interesting because I was thinking back when you were asking her who made the first move and I was just laughing because I know you've heard this before, but John Luke, when we were very good friends for a while before we started dating, like a good year, we were very good friends. And I wasn't interested in being anything more than friends. And we were in the car together. We had driven to church together for like Wednesday night youth group. And usually my sister was in the back seat of the car, but for some reason she wasn't there. And he like reaches his hand. This is just like out of nowhere. He just like reaches his hand over and grabs my hand. And I just like pulled it. What did he say? I don't know. That's all I remember. I mean, it was 12 years ago, something like that. No, but literally he reaches over and I just slipped it out. That is something. How did y'all circle back? So then after that, I was adamant. I was like, well, if you're coming, if you're if we're ever, if we're going to be friends and you're going to youth group or anything with me, like my sister, you're going to be in the back car. So I always made sure I was like, Kelly, you have to come ride. You've got to do this. We've got to make sure this doesn't. What was I, I was always there too, back in the day. That was going to church in Delhi, though. Oh, OK. That was the only time I feel like you weren't there. So he would drive over there with us. Sometimes he was he was trying to help with our youth group. We were trying to build up our youth group at the time. So that was the reasoning. Um, yeah. So then we ended up having at some point, we ended up having a, you know, heart to heart. And I'm and I told him, I said, John, look, we are not dating. We are not ever going to be anything more than friends. You just need to understand that. And he finally it took that for him to like take the hint. Well, then it was like probably a month or two or three shortly afterwards. I was like, well, then I was missing him when he was gone. And I was and I remember then we talked about it. And I was like, you know, I think I do like him. I think I tried to tell myself I didn't, but I do. So then I had to humble myself and because he had backed off at that point. So I had to circle back and be like, OK, I actually do like you. Oh, then we had another heart to heart about that. And then we started dating. Yeah. March got engaged in October, got married the next June. That is so I remember that all like so clearly. I remember, well, first, you might have not wanted to date him because I was like, no, you all cannot date because we were all like best friends. And I was like, I don't think you're going to ruin this. You're going to ruin this, which is so funny, because Bella was the same way with me, with Christian, Bella and Christian were friends and I went to Christian and Bella's like, you're going to ruin it. You're going to ruin our friendship, which is great because it worked out for both of us. But the fear is obviously like they're your friend. What if you break up and it's awkward? Yeah. But I remember like we would I would spend the night at Yall's house all the time and your mom would buy us like ice creams for each of us. It was the probably in cream or whatever. And we all had like our names on our ice cream and John could be coming over and I'd be like, there's no ice cream for you. Like, where are you here? You know, and I could tell he was like crushing on you. And but I love your point of you had to humble yourself and come back and tell him because I feel like girls find themselves in that situation a lot. I actually know a friend who is in that situation where the guy liked her and she didn't like him and he had asked her out. She said no. And now she actually thinks she might like him. And she's like waiting on him to come around again. And I'm like, well, he feels he you already said no. So you're going to have to be the one this time to come back. You got to communicate that because all he knows is that you don't like him and that hasn't changed. So there does have to come a point where it's like, you admit, OK, I have feelings for you now. And it's very inspiring to anyone who's ever been in the friend zone or put someone in the friend zone that you can't get out of it. Yeah. But you have to have some conversations to get out of it. That's good. OK, let's get to the engagement. Abby, how did we take us like give us the details? This is a podcast that you can give us the details of the day. It actually, OK, so going into our engagement, I knew we were going to get engaged soon. I didn't know when and I was like, well, all I want is to actually be surprised because I was like, I figure everything out. Nobody can ever surprise me because I'm just nosey naturally. And I was like, I just I just want to be surprised. And he pulled it off. He figured out. Well, one, everybody was lying to me, which I would just was shocked by after. But I asked for it. So it was just funny and weird. Will took me up to the top of the parking garage where we had our first date and had everything set up to my best friend's or in town and set everything up. And then, yeah, that's where he popped the question. And I was surprised. Yes. Well, he had told me that the ring wasn't ready and he didn't know when it was going to be ready. And he did it on my birthday. And I was not expecting that on my birthday because I just was like, he probably isn't going to he's probably not going to do anything on my birthday. But he told me we were going to dinner and my which looking back hindsight, you know, everything, my mom was like, are you sure you want to wear that? And I was like, Mom, what is wrong with my outfit? Like, do you not like it? She was like, it's fine. Like, I was just making sure. And then my best friend hadn't talked to me all day. And I was like, it's my birthday. She's not talking to me like what in the world? He had surprised me. Her coming into. So, yeah, it was all a surprise. He got me good and funny like hindsight. You're like, man, it was so obvious. But in the moment, I don't know how everybody was telling me like, how did you not know? Literally, everyone came into town. And I was like, I just thought they really came for my birthday because me and Christian were having that big party. And I was like, I mean, it was a fun party. I just thought everyone was coming for the party. And I thought the same thing. I just didn't think he would do it on our birthday. When I say our birthday, Christian's birthday is June 9th. Mine's June 11th. We had our party together. And Christian had said beforehand that he did, which now I know he did this and throw me off, but he had said like he just wanted it to be us when he proposes like he's going to be very private, which isn't normally my style. I'm more like, I want everybody to be around. But I was like, that would be really sweet. I totally get that. So like we kind of agreed on that. And so I just did not think he would do it. Like when all of our friends, all of our family were here, because I just wasn't thinking it was going to be like a private moment, but he did make it private. We like went to the farm away from the party. And by the time we were leaving, I knew what was happening at that point. But I did not think it was happening that day. I didn't know until he took my blindfold off that it was like the real deal. I thought he was surprising me with my best friend, which was a good alternative. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, that looks really sweet. It was fun. That is so sweet. Okay, Mary Kay is quite a few years ago. But I've got to think back, but I just don't think I don't even know if you all realize how shocking it was. I remember how shocking. Like I don't think anyone could have been a surprise that I was and still had said yes. Like that's how shocking like it was, because we had talked. I'm telling you, I just never, I never apparently know what's going on. Same with that conversation with John Luke saying we're never going to be anything more than friends. We had talked the weekend before he proposed in the car. And I said, yeah, I feel like, you know, maybe we should like I was in like I wanted to marry him, but I was in like, did not think we were close to that. But your parents got married older. Yes. You weren't used to like our family had all got married so young. And I was literally 18. Very different. 18. And he was like my first boyfriend. Yeah. So it was just like I told him, I said, yeah, I mean, I guess we could probably, you know, we could start talking about when we want to get married. Maybe sometime next year. And he literally had the ring in his pocket in his pocket that day. And he said, he was like, man, I am about to rock her world. And he did. I remember that because I remember that. I was like, Joey, did you not think like maybe it's not the right time? Like when she said that, he's like, no, no, I just thought this is about to rock her world. I was just absolutely like shocked. Even the night, I mean, even I said, yes. Well, setting the scene, it was his birthday. So same like, and I didn't think anything about it because like a lot of our family, both of our families were going to be there and I didn't think anything about it. And I went so all of y'all were out at the farm already. I just that was during this. And I started to meet in. Eric, because it was switch up week. Derek Huff. He was there. So random. We went because of the occasion. Yeah. But it seemed like for his party. Yeah. Yeah. So we went, but we met at your parents' house and I was going to everyone's already out at the farm and we were going to ride together. And he's like, oh, actually have something for you. And he made me like a photo book of all of our pictures, which all of our pictures being from like the six months we've been. Yeah. When that one. Except there were a few cameras that he put up. It was like, like a GoPro. It was like a GoPro in the corner. Is it GoPro? Yeah, I forgot. We do have that. And so I was like flipping through it. Yeah. I mean, I'm not thinking anything flipping through it. And the last picture is a ring and then he gets down and he proposes. And I just remember thinking that moment. I'm like, I'm saying yes right now because I do want to marry you, but I'm not putting any time frame. I remember the first thing you said, you said, no. That was, yeah. He said, will you marry us? Like now? And then you said yes. And then I said yes. That was crazy. It was crazy. It was a shocker because it was like, like Bella got married at 18. Mom and dad got married at 18. Two moments, people got married at 18. I'm okay. And both of us were like 15 and 16. Like we come from a line of like everybody getting married at that age. So 18 didn't seem crazy, but 18 is so young. That is wild. That is crazy. And so no wonder, and y'all had just had that conversation. So, okay, if it's okay for me to ask is maybe some people feel that way. It's like a rushed process or maybe they feel like, well, I'm so young or I know I want to marry is at the time yet. What did what looking back like what would you say to someone in that scenario? Indeed, present. Hires, you can't afford to get wrong. Like warehouse operations manager. Uh, where are the forklifts? I sold them. They were too expensive. I got a great deal on these scooters, though. You expect us to move a two tonne pallet on a scooter. It'll be fun. Just think of the core strength you'll build. This is a job for sponsored jobs. This is what happens when you don't sponsor your job on Indeed. So the next time you need someone to get the job done right, get matched with quality candidates with an Indeed sponsored job. Visit Indeed.com slash Next hire and sponsor your job today. Yeah, I just remember thinking like when I said yes, I was like, I know this is the right person and like we'll figure out the timing. And I just was kind of like, I feel like I just felt like God was in it. He was in our relationship. And so I was just my mindset was and we probably picked a date within the next 24 hours and we picked it for the following June. And I remember thinking, OK, I feel good about John Luke. I feel good about marrying him. I feel like God, you're going to just pave the way, you know, for this process. And then if we're, you know, if we're not feeling ready, like, then you just push it back or you move it like, I don't know, just trusting that in the process, God was going to bring us both to be ready for it. It's so cool to see you now, like, I guess how many years later? Ten. Ten years later, like, look at the family you've created sitting here pregnant with twins, like that you all really did go in the journey together. You leaned into the Lord and like, y'all have such an amazing, beautiful family that you've created from that, you know? So, yeah, it started a little bit like, whoa, it did. It did. And we were talking recently about just getting married young. And it's just crazy. We've been married for 10 years. And I feel like we, getting married young, I don't have any regret of doing it, but I do think one of the pluses you could have of waiting is just saving some heartache between the two of you because there's still much, we still had so much growth to do as people. And I feel like we hurt each other, you know, in immaturity. Like that's, that's can be the price that you pay with getting married. So yeah, not that I regret it at all. Wouldn't change it. But I do think in the growing that you get to do together, there's so much fun in that, but then the hard part of it can be like the growing pains. You feel each other's too. You know, you feel your own, but you also feel each other's. That's so real. So yeah, that's not only thinking back about getting married young. That's really good. That's really good advice. I love that. All right. So after the engagement, one fun thing that we have talked about for girls is picking a wedding dress. Someone actually asked a synesthedeam whenever we open up the questions for this podcast and was like, do you regret your wedding dress? Do you love your wedding dress still? All those questions. Abby, how did you pick out your wedding dress? What did that day look like? And did you just know it was the one? I did know it was the one after trying a lot on. I am, well, my mom had her dress like special made my grandmother, like put all the pieces together because she wanted like a top from one dress and a bottom from one dress and a train of one dress. And like she was like very particular on what she wanted. And I was like, oh boy, this is just not going to be a fun experience. Like I've done like homecoming dresses and prom dresses and stuff. And those were never easy for me. So I was like, crap, I'm just not going to have a good time with this. And actually your dress was one that I always like wanted. Like that was my like ideal dress. Yes. And then you wore it and I was like, I've had somebody else who had to be too afraid of mine was like, when you walked down the aisle, I was like, dang, because they had that similar dress picked out, but she ended up doing as similar one. I was like, which I loved my dress. I picked anyways, but one of my one of my prom dresses that I wore was like that cut of the top. And I was like, I want my wedding dress to be like this. And then I was like, OK, it's OK. We'll move on. We'll do it. Yeah, it was I really loved my dress. But I it was actually the first one I tried on at the second store. And I went and tried on all the other ones that I had picked out. And then I just reaffirmed that the first one was it. And it all worked out perfectly. We only were engaged for four, four months. And I went dress shopping like day two after getting engaged. Because I was like, you don't get a wedding dress in that fast. If you have to order it, it takes months and months. So it just like happened to be that that dress came in right on time. And alterations were all going to line up perfectly. And I was like, OK, good. Wow. That's so good. Did you cry? I teared up a good bit. I don't think I like cried and was like, I love it. But that's just not my personality. Yeah, that's so sweet. Mary Kay, what about you? Yours was actually on TV. Yeah, well, that's what I was just thinking about was we actually did it on TV, but we didn't show all of it on TV because I had I went to Austin. And I actually like kind of did some of the design process there with Sherry Hill. So it was fun. It was really fun. But it was kind of crazy because I don't think I got the dress. Like she made it like we kind of combined two dresses and she made it. And I don't think I actually tried it on to like two or three weeks before the wedding. Really? That was the first time I tried the dress on. Oh, my gosh. I know. So when I look back and at the time I was like, this feels kind of chancy, a little risky, a little bit. And so it got altered like the week. I probably got it back with alterations like the week of. Wow. But I loved it. I'm so happy with it. Like back on it and so love it. Ten years later, I feel like I hope this is true. I feel like we'll always love our wedding dress, though, because it was our wedding dress. Even when times change and styles change, it's like it's your wedding dress. When I like at mom's wedding dress, it's obviously different than the times now. But like it's so beautiful. Because that was hers. I ours was a fun story because I got in one dress shop right after Christian had like talked to my dad and I knew it. Talked to my dad this before we got engaged and I actually bought my dress before we got engaged. That was that was chancy. That was that was in faith. Funny enough, though, I have had so many people say the same thing that they got their dress before they got engaged. But I think nowadays and maybe like, I don't know, a lot of my friends did this. But because you have to book venues so far in advance, because the dress takes so long because of that, like you do kind of start planning the wedding a little bit even sooner than you get engaged. And I feel like so many people are embarrassed to say that. But I think a lot of people, I think more people are doing it than probably will admit. I booked my address appointment before we got engaged because I was like, I got to get this ball rolling. You already know you can't talking about it and whatnot. And I knew we were hoping to get married in November because of our schedule. He was like in school and then his brother's baseball schedule was so crazy. So we kind of had to start talking about it earlier. And he lived in Auburn. I lived in Nashville. My parents live in Louisiana, his parents live in Florida. So to get us all together to talk about it, we all met in Nashville for like him to talk to my dad, our families to meet each other. And after we had that day, we were like, OK, we're pretty locked in. Like we know where we're heading towards marriage. And I was actually about to go to New York the next week. And while we were all talking about this, his mom was like, oh, you should go to Kleinfeld's while you're there. And I was like, oh, I should do that. Oh, my gosh, we were not even engaged at this kind of weird. And she's like, oh, just go. It'd be so fun. So I OK. Well, then when we left the meeting, I like our meeting. It sounds weird to say a meeting, but like everybody meeting and hang out, mom was like, I just want to go find a wedding dress shop here. So in Nashville, we went and like found a shop. It was super fun and didn't pick any of those. But it was just fun. And then we booked an appointment at Kleinfeld's room. We were going and I was looking at their website and I screen shot of one dress and it was like the only dress I saw that kind of I was like, I just want to try this on. But I had no idea what I wanted. I hadn't had like, you know, some girls are like, I know I want lace or I know I want this. I really wasn't sure. So I get there, try on like every different type of dress. And I'm just I never really thought I was going to find my dress there. So it's just like having fun. And then before we left, I was like, do you have this dress and showed them the dress? And they said, we do, but we only have it in pink. And I was like, well, I just try it on and see if I like the style. And I told them I wanted to wear gloves. So they had like found some old like vintage gloves and a drawer that they had just so I could get the vision and I had the pink dress on. They brought me flowers and a veil and I started crying. I forgot you are the gloves. They were so pretty. And so that was really cool. But what was a little bit fun about the like process, too, was I wasn't going to be able to get the dress till September and I was in November. So I was like, I had to just in faith and just say, like, OK, I want the white version. But there's a lot of different variations of white. So I wasn't sure what that was going to be. And then I ordered my gloves from somewhere else and I didn't know what color white the dress is going to be. And so when I ordered those gloves and we got to New York in September and I tried them on with it and they match perfectly, it was like so fun. It's like, all came together. It was so fun. That's like magical moments in life. Magical moments. So fun. I miss that trip. Yeah, I was just thinking. All the trips because I was always pregnant. I was scanning. Pardon. That is so funny because all my bridesmaids were there and I was thinking about the fact that I don't remember you being there. Yeah, that's crazy because you were with Sheppy. Yeah, yeah. As you had to be a few weeks later. A few weeks later. Yeah. And I was like, now I know that was really rough to plan a wedding a month after you had a baby because Bella did it to me. And I was. I was pregnant at your wedding. Yeah, you were both pregnant at your wedding. That was you were like nine months pregnant. I've decided, though, I'd rather be nine months pregnant at a wedding than a month postpartum at a wedding because the nine months pregnant really wasn't bad. It was the three weeks after having honey at Bella's wedding. And let me just tell you, this is really embarrassing and funny. When we went dress shopping for Bella's wedding. I remember that day. Do you remember this day? I do. And we're trying to all the bridesmaid dresses and all the bridesmaids there and nothing was fitting me. And it was so discouraging because I was only like four months pregnant. And I was like, oh, no, like this is not good. So I like secretly like start crying in the dressing room because my mom told me she was like, hey, like this is what you're going to look like postpartum. And I just hadn't thought about that because, you know, you never been there before. I felt like my belly was pretty big. So like this one, I'm going to look like three weeks after. She's like, yeah. So you definitely need to find one that fits you now. And I was like, OK, so I just didn't. So sometimes you don't feel pretty. I just felt sad. So anyways, but I'm trying not to like take away from the moment for Bella. Well, anyways, I ordered stress and then I didn't know my mom ordered me another one that she thought was going to work better. I think, yeah, we talked about it. And the one. OK, yeah. I was because I was pregnant, too. We were only that was with Ellen, honey. So we were only like three weeks apart. Yes. And I remembered what worked for me in your wedding postpartum. Because it, yeah, if you're never in postpartum, you don't quite know what that body type feels like and looks like. And it is different. And so they were like, maybe you should do this one, which was just so different than my normal style. So I went with the one I thought they bought me in secret, a backup item. Well, during her wedding, I wore the one that I liked and everything was going great until right after the wedding. We all go for a family picture and Christian comes walking out and I go to hug you and like a rat mo on her strata. Both of my straps, which aren't buttoned, by the way, they're not like, you know, they're not like nursing straps where they're supposed to undo. They're like stitched straps. Yeah. Just. Do you remember that? Don't let go of me. Don't let go of me. So Christian has to like hug me and walk inside. I get inside the dress and falls off me like thank the war that happened after the wedding. And then mom's like, I actually ordered you another dress. So then I get to wear my back after this. It worked out. I know. And then remember all the beds fades like went out for Bella's thing and we danced to. Get in there. What's that song? Wobble, wobble. When he gets so wobble and honey strapped to me with my new fries, right? Just and after that, I went inside and I literally fell asleep on the floor. Lainey held honey and I fell asleep on the floor. That was so crazy. Couch. That was you did. We were both so post part. It was so fun, though. Like we've all done it for all of the weddings and it's been really fun. Oh gosh. Okay. So wedding. What was your wedding theme? Abby, what was yours? Kind of like theme. Y'all was so fun. We did all black or all of our guests were black and we just had simple as like I want classic modern timeless like just. Yeah, I didn't want any color really other than green. But yeah, that's the grass. The after the wedding, the jazz thing. That was fun. That was fun. Yeah. Your mom actually came up with that. She was like, what if we do a second line like they do in like New Orleans and stuff after weddings and I was like, weird. I was like, I don't know about that, but really. And then we started thinking about it more and more. And I was like, well, we have to get people from point A to point B. And instead of just walking over there in silence, like let's just do it. And my brother was in band at high school in high school. So he got some of his buddies and that was that was our little band. So I didn't realize that they did it. That's sweet. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, it was fun. That was cute. That was really fun. You know, the theme was so you're voting was so fun. It was fun. Well, what would you say the theme of it was? Outside. We were just outside. Yeah, outside Louisiana and June fireworks. Yeah, it was just fun. It was fun. We had a lot of flowers, just a lot of band and music. Mark Ballas performed. He did. You see, that was fun. And then been a rector. Yeah, yeah, that was so fun. We did something. It was just fun. It was a fun night. And then we had our favorite. So different and so fun in both of the farm. It was like modern, timeless, all black, DJ, like all that. And then you also was like ban, outdoorsy, like very colorful. Your flowers are super colorful. You were like only green. That's so funny. It was so different. All the variations that have happened at the farm. And ours was like night time. I was thinking like night garden. That's what I wanted it to look like in the tennis court. It was so fun. I like that tennis court transformation. When mom, same mom had that idea. And I was like, no, weird, get me on a tennis court. And then it was like so cool. Yeah, that's a mom. She had the vision. She does. She had the vision. All right, let's see if there's any questions that some people sent in that we want to make sure that we answer. If you could do it over again, what would you change about your wedding day? I was thinking about this. I don't think I would change this. I just would have prepared for this a little bit better. We had so many people at our wedding. It was like a huge wedding. And I think like there's so much beauty to small weddings. Now that I had a really big wedding, I went, oh, that's fine. Because it's so intimate. It's just your people. But the big wedding was so fun. And there were so many people and there was energy and it was fun for that reason. But I felt like Krishna, we're getting pulled in every direction. Talking to so many people. And there are so many people from his family I hadn't met because they live in a different state. There were so many people. My family, we hadn't met. We hadn't met so many of our friends. So I felt like we were meeting people like most of the reception, which was sweet because when else would we have really spent that time with all of our people in one place? But I feel like we didn't even have time to eat. Like we didn't have time to sit and be like, whoa. Except for one moment, which is one of my favorite moments of our whole wedding. Yes, we looked at each other during the whole reception. It was so crazy. We were like, let's go hide. And we ran to the wine bar and like crouched down a hid behind it. And we were like, we just got married. And that is like one of my favorite memories ever. So I don't know that I would change going from a big one to a small wedding because there's beauty to it. But I would have been a little bit more intentional with making sure that Krishna had our private moment so that we didn't feel so crazy pulled. Like I've seen a lot of brides and grooms like they go eat somewhere else and then come. That's a good idea. Like that's a good idea because that was a little crazy. I feel like we were kind of the opposite. We like I feel like we didn't really like talk to anybody really our whole wedding night. Like we kind of unintentionally had like a photo line after we cut our cake. We kind of got trapped in there and we talked to like a few of those people. But other than that, like we really were locked in with one another. And even though all of our people were there, we just like were tunnel vision on each other. And I think that was like so beautiful and I loved every bit of it. But I wish we did take a minute to like look out into the audience and say like look at all of our people. Those those like because that's really the only time that everyone that you know and love are going to be together in one place. And I just wish we were a little more. I wish I thought of that and was a little more intentional at like honoring the people that we love. And that's like a different perspective because yeah, because I think there is so much beauty to all of them being the same place. But it's like that balance of having eyes for each other but also acknowledging the room. Yeah, one thing I did in that moment was we held hands like the whole time. Even if I was talking to these people and he was talking to those people. I felt like we were together. We were just like so many so much going on. So yeah, I think those are things you don't really think about before the day. But it'd be cool for those of you who are engaged, like think about how you and your spouse are going to kind of like navigate that. Because there's beauty to both. You have anything you'd change? Some of my flowers got messed up. I wasn't going to say I remember that. I didn't know if you remember that. Nothing else, a very minor. I've heard I honestly don't care about it now. But I did. Well, you were right after I was sad about it. And so that was what was upsetting because you didn't match the flower crown. Oh, yeah. That was it. That was fun. It was great. Such a cute flower crown, though. I really liked it. I like it. So happy about it. And it was kind of a trendy thing then, but I liked it. I still like it. It fit you well. Thanks. How do you not get frustrated with your fiance when you're doing all the work? What's that? That is just a whole lifelong thing, though. That's not just a. Yeah, because I was going to say that. Yeah, in every stage. But I think this is what came to mind whenever I read that is the quote. Expectation without communication results in frustration. If you have an expectation that your fiance or your husband or whoever is supposed to be doing something they're not doing, but you haven't communicated to them that you hope that they would help you with this and they need to be helping with this, then you can't get frustrated because they might not know that you're expecting them to do that. I think communication is goes such a long way because most of the time if you ask them to help, they'll probably be willing to help you instead of just like being frustrated that they're not thinking about it. And you also have to acknowledge, like I think for us in the stage right now, like parenting looks different for like the mom and the dad sometimes, you know, and there are just things that the mother is naturally going to do and the mother naturally has to do like feed the baby. Like for me, I have to be the one to wake up in the night because I'm feeding her with my own body, you know, and then I feel like I naturally comfort them more because I'm a nurturer and the mom like that kind of thing. There's things that Christian does that I'm not as good at. Like he's the on the ground, playing rough, getting them going like that kind of thing. And we also just have to be OK knowing that like my responsibilities look different than his and not comparing what his is to mine and just being OK that he's being the best dad and being the best mom. And that's going to look different. And the workload is going to look a little different. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking whenever I said that about like that's just a lifelong. These are different. There's different roles, different roles, different responsibilities, you know, and you can talk about it and if you don't feel like something's fair in it, but, you know, it is. It just looks different. A lot of it is just to me, like acknowledging it and seeing the other person. Like I don't really need Christian to do it. But if he encourages me, it goes a long way. Yeah, that's like you're doing a great job. Thanks for handling all that or vice versa. Like for me lately, like mornings are so crazy. And when he helps me out with that, I'm like, hey, thank you so much. That made it so much easier to get them ready when you did that. Yeah, like seeing what each other's doing. Yeah. Yeah. And I think they always, they actually want to help. Yeah. You know, you just have to communicate like how you want them to. What would be helpful? Have you got anything on that? Um, I was thinking back to like what, what we did, like. In real life and will like certain things, kind of like a to-do list of like all the things that I wanted him to accomplish or like think about or, you know, whatever it may be. And then all the things like he kind of was like, I don't care what it looks like or anything, but I want to like be involved in, in doing. So anything that was like colors, flowers, tablecloths, like signage, like all of that stuff. I just like, we talked about it together. And I feel like that kind of relieved not my frustration, but just like the, the weight of all the wedding planning things. So just be it on it together. Yeah. So hopeful. Yeah. Okay. Let's see. I think one more, and that would be a good question for y'all to answer is moving across the country when we get married, but I'm sad to leave family slash home. Any advice for moving after getting married? For Christian and I, we were opposite. We had lived, you know, all over the place. And then when we got married, we lived together in Auburn. So we were a little way for a little bit, but then COVID hit and we were like, smack dab in the middle of family and like quarantine together, but you guys both moved away. So what was that like right after getting married, moving away, advise people kind of in that stage? You can go first. Have something. Looking. Um, I, we did long distance, basically our whole relationship. So when it was time to like settle down and be together, I feel like it, that was just what it was. Like we just, it didn't matter where we were or what we were doing. If we were together, it was, it was just perfect. Like, I don't know. It just is like what we wanted to do. Um, so, and as hard as it was to be away from my family, cause I'm, I'm a, I'm a big family girl. Like I, I don't leave my family often. We talk every day. Um, I was with him. So it just made it worth it. Um, so yeah, as hard as it was, and as much as I missed my family, it was just like, it's such a perfect time for us to grow together away from our family and establish our own like relationship dynamic. Cause we really like, we did, we never had that like every day time together because we were long distance. So yeah, it was, it was fun and hard, but it was so good. It's so good. I felt the same way. It was fun and it was hard. Like just because it's hard doesn't mean you shouldn't be doing it. Yeah. And it's bad. Yeah. I was remembering that too. Yeah. Just because it, it is just going to be hard, but it doesn't mean it's bad. Yeah. Um, it was really, it was good for us and it was, there was a lot of fun in it too. And I think too, like every, a lot of people say, Oh, the first year is the hardest or whatever. That's not true for everybody. Some scenarios, it is the hardest for us. The first year was kind of the easiest and then things have gotten harder in different ways and like your three, that was pretty hard. Like now we're on your six, like there's different years. So I think sometimes people will say, Oh, that's going to be really hard when you do that, but that might have been unique to that person's situation. And cause for us, when we moved to Auburn, it was just so fun. Like we, like you kind of said, it's like, we just got married. We're so excited. We have been long distance. Like we're together in those three months. Like we look back at those three months for like, we didn't realize how fun that even like it was fun and we knew it was fun. We didn't know like how fun in that that time was never going to really be given back in a sense of like, we watched movies all the time. We just did fun nights, all the stuff. Whereas now it's like, when it was always just set and like watch some movie without, you know, getting interrupted. We can't even watch me right now. We have three kids. Like it's so crazy. You would have to go to a movie. We'd sit in our bed and like laugh, watch me. We had Cabo. We just got her. We were like, I was going every day while Christian went to class. I was walking outside trying to teach Cabo how to walk on a leash, which I didn't do a very good job at because that dog cannot walk in a straight line. But like just fun memories, you know, being together and just doing whatever we wanted because we had the time to do it. Yeah. And so when you do get married, um, for those listening, if you're in that at that stage of like stepping into early marriage, like enjoy it. Everyone's going to tell you it's going to be hard. Yes. It's going to be hard. Marriage is hard. Life is hard. But like enjoy those freedoms. Enjoy that fun. Enjoy being each other's company, uh, being undistracted, uh, really developing that relationship between the two of you outside of your family. You're now a family. Y'all have the same last name. Let that dynamic skill, like even the conversations is about the future. Like I think about so many things we talked about year one that now we're living in, we're walking in, dreaming about kids. Now we know their names. Now we know who they are. Like it's go time, you know? So it's so special. But this has been so fun. I loved hearing y'all stories and recapping and thinking back. It's, uh, it's fun because like we see each other is life, but then you don't know all the little details in the ins and outs. So thanks for sharing and giving such good advice. Thanks for having us. Fine. It was fun. Much fun.