48: Ep.43 - Exploring Haunted Spaces and Energy Clearing with Psychic Medium Joseph D'Airo

Welcome to the Drop the Needle Podcast, your backstage pass to the mystical realm. I'm your host Jim Alls. And here, gifted soul step up to the mic sharing their spiritual journey. We're hitting the high notes and the low notes that they're awakening, creating a symphony of enlightenment. This isn't just another interview show. This is where Divine Insights are channeled and universal truths are revealed. So crank up your stereo and sit back because who knows, this just might help you compose the next transformative chapter of your soul's purpose. Are you ready? Let's go. Hi everyone and welcome back to the Drop the Needle Podcast. I'm your host Jim Alls. And I'm so happy y'all decided to join us. We have a special treat and store for everyone. We have Joseph Dyerow joining us again on the show today. You know, if you remember from episode 39, Joseph is a psychic medium from Long Island, New York. The amazing Miss Pat Longo was Joseph's mentor, teacher and coach. God bless Pat Longo. Pat Longo also, if you remember, has mentored and taught some of the world's most recognizable psychics. So we're in some pretty elite company here on the Drop the Needle Podcast with Joseph here with us today. In the last episode, Joseph quietly mentioned that he clears homes and sometimes businesses of unwanted afterlife visitors. Everyone please join me in welcoming Joseph Dyerow. Welcome Joseph. Hello, Jim. How are you? I'm doing very well. Boy, it seems like it's been quite a while since we've seen each other. Yeah, baby. Little bit. Yeah, it has been. It has been. Life has been treating you well. Life's been great. Overall, yes. Excellent. Excellent. I'm happy to hear that. So as I mentioned in the intro, we get to talk about house clearing, business clearing, Joseph's clearing experiences. So this is going to be really awesome. So I was going to do some hokey who you're going to call. Well, you could do that with me because I'm obviously a big fan of that. Yes, yes, yes. So let's talk about the whole clearing of the residents or businesses. OK, I know this is going to sound funny, but how does it even start? Most of the calls I get are people who feel like, because that's, you know, either something's off in their spaces. Maybe they just feel like, you know, it needs a clearing. They feel maybe there's negativity there. And it's not every situation because it's not always spirit. Sometimes I'll say energy gets cluttered and it needs somebody to tell it what to do. And there are the other instances where it is spirit and it could be anything where they're causing a little problem, causing trouble, making people anxious, you know, making the lights flicker, making noises and I because I've, because I've had people describe that to be too. And I walk it. And a lot of people here do it stuff. Holy cow. So you said energy getting cluttered. What do you mean when you say energy getting cluttered? And we'll see trying to simplify it. It's just because there's spirit, but then let's just say there's just energy floating around and sometimes residual, residual energy, like we create energy, we give off energy, we, you know, exchange energy. And you know, like our emotions, our moods, we've stuffed behind and, you know, just like dust in the corner eventually collects where enough reason to notice it. Right. You can't sweep it into the rug anymore. No, you can't. And you know, sometimes, you know, the energy of the space is, you know, it needs either a clearing or I also do the blessing when I do this. Just to charge, just to charge things up, it just needs someone to, because energy wants to be told what to do, where to go and what to do. And if you tell it to leave, it will go and do that. But while I'm doing it, I'm all we're also talking to spirit, whoever's around. And let's see if it's not the spirits, I'm necessarily trying to sweep out the door. It's often the relatives of the residents of who, like I'm who I'm end up speaking to. Or it could be spirit that just is hanging around from a previous lifetime, previous owners, just people associated with the property, you know, especially where, where I live on a long island, there's a lot of history. And a lot of places, a lot of locations that have people living there for, you know, a couple of hundred years, if not going back to like, you know, the natives. And sometimes it gets, you know, it can get quite interesting. I bet when you're starting to mix, if it were natives and then the other people that would come in after that, yeah, crowded would probably be the best way. And then you just describe that. So with this, I'm curious to know that, you know, I guess it's kind of like a car, right? Or when you go to the doctor, you can be really sick and, you know, and then when you get to the doctor, you go, oh, wow, this is weird. I'm feeling better. Has that ever happened to you when you go in there where they said, well, just before you got here, this was going on. And now everything's quiet. It has happened. I've also had situations where clients tell me stuff was going on up until like the moment I arrived and it's like, like, and then everyone went quiet. And it's just like, really, they all, like they all knew, you know, the, like teachers coming into the room and it was going to start. Cheese it. Yeah. Yeah, right. I mean, those are usually they'll say entities or spirits that know they're causing a problem. And how this sort of works is because when I, you know, whenever, like, you know, I enter the space, I have a chat with the owner, whoever's let me in. And I usually then when I start doing my thing, I have a chat with spirit and just like, I'm here on behalf of the owner, they give a me permission to do so because I can't, I necessarily can't just walk into someone's space and clear off energy. I have that verbal, mental permission to do something. And that's usually when I just go about what I'm supposed to do. Okay. So let's talk about that. When you walk through the door, you get the go ahead from the owner, then what? Then I would, you know, I start actually chatting like more often than that. I just start chatting with spirit. I usually do a little setup depends on the household. If they let me, because I usually bring out a few candles, I usually make a crystal grid. It's not always necessary. It's just, it's based on how I feel when I, like, I usually have a bag with me and it's just like, take out all the goodies, anything I feel it's going to be beneficial or because the crystals I bring, I usually charge them up. I do a meditation of who, like, who am I bringing today? And it's just, you know, it's just sending up the intention that we're going to do something that we get energetically here. Okay. So then once you start the ceremony, is it called a ceremony or is it just a couple of things? We could call it a ceremony or like a ritual. Okay. So once you start that, do they ever get pissed off and? Oh, yes. Okay. So what happens? You know, it's like pissed off or, you know, some, let's just say, like, relatives of the family, how you got it? They get, they get interested in why am I here? What am I doing? And can I get rid of them? Usually, but that's why I'm having a conversation is like, well, if you're family, no, I'm not getting rid of you. And like, if you belong here, then five, and if you know belong here, and you've got to go and kind of easily to filter out who belongs and who does it based on who, like, how I'm talking to everybody. Because spirit has to be truthful. They can't, like, it's think of it like a cosmic law and they can't lie. They can try to deceive, but they can't lie. Okay. Okay. So are the homeowners or business owners there with you when you're doing this or do they usually, usually no, they, I usually, like, most of the time they let me, let me be, be occasionally I'll say, like, you know, you could, I tell them you could go do whatever you need to do. I'm, I'm going to be walk around. But I've already explained to them. I'm going to be in every space in every new, incredible, incredible house, the building, wherever I'm at, I'm going to open closets. I'm going to open, might open drawers. And it's like, why would I, like, you know, I've been there for a second. I'm not really, like, I'm not like, like, I'm not like, like, it's somebody's problem. Let's get to what they have. Let's they have a really, really big closet. I mean, I, I've been in houses where they're, they have really big closets. And I, so I had to spend a little time in there. Finally, the time I got around, sure. Walk, walk through the spaces. But on most of the pretty much everybody leaves me a load to do my thing. Cool. Which makes sense because then you can just get down to business rather than, I would be, okay, so what is that doing? And what is that doing? I can just see me. You would not want me anywhere near what's going on because I'd be like, what, what, what is that supposed to do? Let's talk about some happenings then some, some stories about that that you can share with us. Oh, like a lot of stories. I mean, I've a few all the other, but a lot of them, I've done, I've done this work in New Jersey and Manhattan. And I think in Brooklyn and Queens, I don't think I've done, I think I specifically been in the Bronx yet with this. But the city, city locations tend to be very interesting because the city, you know, there's a lot of people coming through, a lot of people coming in from all different places, bringing things with them, bringing energies with them, bringing their relatives, bringing even, you know, even from like hundreds of years ago because it's just, it's just the location of where we, of where we happened to be. I did a house and that was in Queens and I remember there was a spirit there that did not want to leave. I like, I want to say if I kind of quartered it, it's like one of the bedrooms and they started like, they started like throwing stuff at me. Oh, really? Because, because the whole motor came in and it's like they heard it and it just, and there's something flew across the room as they entered the room. Of course, once they were there, nothing happened, but they saw the thing fly across the room at like towards me. Because I'm just like this, this spirit wasn't, they weren't, they weren't family. So they didn't belong there and they, but they didn't want, they didn't want to leave, but there's a way to do it where they have to. Okay. I won't have you give away your secrets. So with all those people coming in, I know that I have heard or seen through different programs that sometimes like antiques are supposed to be something that you should be very careful about bringing into your home. Is that true too? I mean, is that where some of these things might come from when people are coming, you know, they're not their relatives or family members? In my opinion, yes, that needs something that needs to be taken care of before you bring it into your house. If not, the look like shortly after you bring it into your house, what even if it's a family, family members item because. First of all, it doesn't have your energy. So it's bringing in someone else's energy and if someone else older, you're bringing in basically their personality into your space and every other person who's ever, you know, ever has ever been the odor of this thing. And let's just say it fits in Antico. It might potentially have a lot of odors and a lot of lifetimes and a lot of events that have happened around it and solid objects record and absorb everything around them. So in front was my understanding. So if you hold a piece, hold it antique. It's like, you know, there's stories that can tell. And sometimes, you know, sometimes it's, you know, objects could be, I'll use the word haunted and some of them are. And again, we just need to, there's just a procedure to do to get the spirit to move on, go somewhere else. You know, my thing is, because I learned from Pat Long, that you know, you sent them into the light. If they don't want to go, yes, for assistance, there's a couple of other things to do, but it's to, you know, help the spirit along if, you know, if it's confused or sometimes, like, even walking through a house, sometimes some spirits are not aware that they pass. They're really not aware and time doesn't matter on their other end of it. So what could be like 60 years for us could be in day for them. So they're not aware of it and they just need to be, need to have to be explanation. And again, assistance and guide them into the light, which is what I ended up doing a lot. Okay. So when, let's use the example of something being thrown at you. Do you ever get freaked out by that stuff? Not, not so much anymore. Honestly, I mean, I used to get freaked out like when I was younger and doing this, I'm like, yeah, that's due. I don't like, you know, it wasn't really, at that time, I was describing it wasn't, it wasn't big stuff. It was a bit of a better room. I think they threw, like, I think one was a book. I know there was just a tiny, a small box that was on, I think that was on the dresser. Stuff like that. It's like, okay, if it hits me, it's like, it's not going to do very much. Yeah, but still, I don't care. If it was a, a wadded up piece of paper that nobody else was in the room, all of a sudden got pitched at you, that might do something to me, you know? It might freak me out more than a little bit. Yeah. That would be something. So let's hear some, some other stories that you have. Let's see, another one was a place had been hadn't had that place. We'll see, this particular was an apartment building, but that place was haunted. And when I say haunted, there was a lot of, a lot of spirits from, I, I remember my impression was like the 1800s. It wasn't a big building. So when, but I say apartment building, I don't be like a 10, like a 12 story thing. I'd be like a three story, a three story building. But there was, I think there was 10 units in this place and every, every spot was had spirits in it who didn't need to be here anymore. But what happens, where they'll see the initial, let's see, initially these kinds of things are not always like a bad thing necessarily. So what happens is when people who are alive, they collectively all start believing like a location is haunted and it perpetuates the energy to act on that. So it's not necessarily the spirits involved, but that was the collective manifestation of everyone's thoughts towards something that makes it more, more of what they're thinking about. Because I, what I walked in, I remember, I'm like, they don't feel that bad and I'm not getting that vibe. I think it's just, it's the other energy involved because everyone now thinks it's haunted so now everyone believes it's a bad thing. And it, it builds upon itself over time. You get enough, you get enough stories and, you know, everyone just associates, that's what it is and that's what it becomes. And yeah, I could see that they maybe feel like they have to live up to the building a little bit on that. I was, it's funny, as you started to describe that, I was going to ask you if the spirit energy is picked up on the people, the living energy there too. So it amplifies and gets them worked up is that is that's what you're saying, right? It could potentially do that. Potentially do that. Sometimes just the living collectively, you know, believing that it's a haunted location and it's, and it's a bad, it's a bad haunting thing. The spirits may necessarily not be doing anything, but then I'll say put the extra residual energy can do something to perpetuate that belief. So it's not actually spirit doing it, but it's the energy, it's the, it's the energy beyond that because, you know, because we'll see we manifest to everyone who's alive can manifest a lot of things into existence. Right. So is there a difference then between a haunted or haunting versus some of the other things that you were talking about with the energy clutters and things that are more about that spirit or people who, people who once were here a lot, like once living here who are no longer, they transition, but they never got went to heaven. Okay. And for whatever reason, they've attached themselves to the earth plane and they don't understand what's going on or they don't want to leave or there's something that's keeping them here. And so they just never left. And but some of them, some of them are just completely confused and from that confusion, there's some anger and there's some people who just real, some spirits who just really choose to be angry. Mm. Whether, like, whether they didn't get to do everything they wanted to do, they were ready to transition and they feel cheated out of the field, feel cheated or just hold some resentment or some, we'll see, I've encountered, I've encountered a few bad people. We'll see, I've been doing this for over 15 years. So I've been going really well. Totally, yeah. And especially, you know, especially since I've been the vicinity of the city, I mean, I think New York City, like, that happens a little over an hour on the trade. So like, and I've had clients, I've had many clients there. And so, so I guess, like, I guess I have a lot of experience with this. But some of it, sometimes it gets, I say it can get scary because I remember another place in the city I walked into and I didn't know exactly what I was walking into. You know, the owner just told me that, you know, they, they wanted to sell the place and they really needed it clean, like, cleaned that and blessed me. And I actually, like, I remember walking into that and everywhere were shadows and it's like where shadows don't belong or it's like a big sense. And the realtor was with me too. And this woman also, like, she was, she was uneasy, but she stayed behind me, which was fun. I'm just like, I feel like, like, because I feel like, you know, I feel like I'm, like, it's like the Scooby-Doo murder mysteries or why she's just, she's just trailing behind me watching what I'm doing. Like, that was one of the few times someone. One of the few times somebody, you know, someone was behind me, but I mean, all I was doing was chitchatting with spirit before I really got started. But I remember everywhere I could see like, there's shadows everywhere. So there's a lot of people here and, but they're not happy. And, you know, if they're not happy, maybe they're a little afraid and they'll try to stop you if you're doing something because they don't know what you're doing. And, you know, what we consider like hauntings is often sometimes spirits just interacting with us or they're just doing their own thing. We just happen to be in the way. Okay. Okay. So have you ever had to go back? I have never had to go back to any location. I've told people, it's like, Hey, if you feel like something, something's like not right, I'll come right back. Like at the, like at the earliest possibility. And, yeah, if I have to come back, that's not an additional charge because I'm like, no, I'm here to, I'm here to complete the job. So I guess, like, I guess in that sense, like everything turns out good. Well, that's good, right? Because I don't think, I don't think I've ever, I mean, unless they never told me, I'd never had, I've never had callbacks. I think there'd be some things someone would share with you pretty quickly. Yes, I feel, I feel that too. I mean, some things took, you know, took longer than I would expect. They're, I'm trying, I remember, it was a house of Connecticut. And that, that happened to be in, it was a big old house. It was like one of those, I think it was a good, great, it was one of, because it gratitude is a lot of three story really, really old, really old location. And there was part of a family who was still residing there. And they really had no idea that they transitioned, but they didn't want to leave either. So that took a lot of effort because, you know, the entire time I'd be like, they're talking to me and I'm like, no, no, no, you've got to move on. And they had no idea what I was talking about. And they, so they put, you know, so there was some pushback it. And, you know, sometimes, ever so often I have a situation where I'm like, I'd be like, maybe I should have brought Pat with me on this one because, right, it would have been nice to have some backup with, I'll see the healing process. But usually when I do this, I call it, I call it my angels to, you know, back me up on all these things. And I'll say, sometimes, which is, you know, I find this also hilarious because I wonder, I was wondering what it looks like to my clients only, because all they see me do is walking around. I'm not talking out loud. I'm talking to spirit in my mind. And so they don't know the, you know, the conversation going on. They don't know like what I'm getting from all this unless I start talking out loud. So because I was, I'm just walking like to like to anybody. I'm just walking around like staring at stuff. I'm like, oh, no, I'm having a conversation as I'm looking around. Well, that would be interesting too because, you know, if you're the bystander or the homeowner and you're watching that and you're just like, well, what's he doing? He's, he's just standing there being contemplative or something, you know, is it? Well, let's get to work. Let's, and you're doing that. That's, that's pretty interesting. Have you ever with, with the, I'm sorry. I'm not going to go. No, no, no, no, keep going. Keep going. And I remember with the, with the house of Gritich, there, there was a specific room that had a lot of activity. And the owner didn't tell me, but they told me I walked right into the room and said, this is like, this is where they spend a lot of time. Because it felt like it to me, it just felt like everybody's in this room. It was, wasn't the bedroom. It was just, it was on the second floor. I'm trying to remember what the room was. I think it was just a sitting room. But like they thought it was hilarious and I'm like, they didn't tell me and they said, you just walk, you walk right up and said, everybody's in this room. They said, that's where they found they felt most of the, whatever was going on, was happening in that room. So even the whole property was haunted. But it was just specifically mostly in that, and we'll see in that I'm sitting room on the second floor. Must have been a gathering place for the family then or something. Brad, something like that. And they had a couple of kids. The kids didn't really give me the problem. It was the one parent and there was another, I tried to remember another gentleman who was with them, but they were all family. It was my impression. But they really, they really liked kind of thought they, like bed toy on this. Like we're not going anywhere. And I'm like, no, you have to. It's like you're, you're past, you know, you don't, you know, belong here anymore. And the whole, everything I got to do to get them to move on. Well, I would think that, you know, there, that was their home and their last living memory. So it would seem like somebody may be lying to them or, you know, trying to trick them and say, no, no, you know, this isn't your dead. No, I'm not. No, you're really dead. No, no, no, don't believe it. I'm not listening. It changes, their attitudes change a lot when they start seeing the light or I asked for that, I asked for that to come at some point. And they're like, you know, what is that? And it's just like it's everything. And it's like, you really want to go there. Sometimes that takes, that takes a bit of effort because some of these, sometimes, I would, if it's a, if it's a quick, I see a quick clearing, maybe I'm there, depending on the size of the place, maybe I'm there for an hour to two hours, I think like that, a couple of these, like I've been there all afternoon, trying to get, like, get these spirits out the door. So this is definitely something that you have to do in person. Yes. Okay. Okay. I wouldn't, I personally wouldn't do it remotely. I think like I need to be president of the space. I think it would help, but, you know, I've heard of some, some folks trying to do that and then they put the onus on the homeowner to do their ritual, which doesn't quite seem right or safe necessarily because you don't know what kind of energies you're, you're dealing with or. Or yes, it's stuck to you. I mean, you know, I wouldn't do that to the homeowner or, you know, the older of a business, it's like, yes, they're not, let's be like, they're not as familiar of all this is, you know, as, let's just say as I would be and also like you said, like, you know, they may not even trust what they're doing. If you're not trusting what you're doing, it's not going to work. Oh, absolutely not. Oh, did I forget something? Oh, I got to put it over, you know, and. Plus, you know, it might be, it might be intimidated to try to do something like this, you know, without, or not a professional with you. Oh, I can't, I can't imagine, you know, I'm hesitant to do the old smudging. I can't imagine. Besides that. Now, if you ever had any of those spirits or energies come back with you, come back home, no, but they've tried. Really? Some of them trying to like, I think for the most part, I successfully get them to go to the other side or go away or get them to go somewhere else, stay as best I can. I've had, but I've had spirit follow me home and the, let's see, kind of fun, like you see, if you were my family, you would find this funny because they'd experienced it, where I have this rule where you, they can't enter my space unless I say so. I've watched them follow me home and they, when they get to my space, they kind of hit a wall and can't proceed any further, which I like on some level, I kind of find whole areas because some of them literally hit, they literally hit it in a visible wall. They can't come in. I remember, because it's also a rule I have with the spirits who are waiting for their people to come when I'm doing reading. And I remember my father came to my door one day and he just said, you know, there's a line of spirit waiting to come in. And I said, yeah, they can't come in until their person is here because what do I, what do I need like, you know, a crowded room for? It's just going to get too loud in here. I won't even hear myself think so I'm done. So I'd like to know, have you ever watched any of those shows like Ghost Adventures or Paranormal State or anything like that? Kinsley, yes, I have. Okay. And you know Kim Russo had a whole series and Kim Russo was one of Pat's students too. Oh, Kim's amazing. She is something else. I've Pat turned me on to Kim's programming and talk about being able to just spend a marathon of those episodes because they're pretty interesting. And it is similar to what you're talking about typically she would have, there would be somebody there and try to get to the bottom of it, which is very cool. I was just curious to know what your thoughts were on some of those shows that kind of sometimes they can seem a little sensationalist in their approach. But some of the, well, I mean, to keep it by, it's a TV show. So they got to give you a reason to watch. That's true. There is, there is sensationalism, but it's, you know, but I, like my feeling with what, I mean, I haven't watched a lot of them that I do find them fascinating because I'm all into that kind of stuff. But more often than I'm like, they're like, I'm kind of like, it's funny because I've sat next to my sister and we've both said it too. It's like, they're looking over there for the ghost, but the ghost is over there. It's like, that's both of our feeling is, it's like they're looking in the wrong place. Sometimes. But some things are, you know, there's just nothing present and, you know, that's more I think the sensational is it's like their stuff. Because some, I mean, but in my experience, sometimes spirit, spirit has the ability to just kind of vanish. And you don't hear from them, see them for some time and they're just, and they're quite literally not there. But then they materialize, let's say again at a later time. And because sometimes like I'm watching those shows and I'm like, there's nothing going on. I'm like, this is completely boring. Right, right. Did you hear that? Did you hear that? And then they check their EVP. Well, I've, you know, I've got to be completely transparent. And I do watch the ghost adventures. I don't know how many seasons of that I was hooked into and then finally started to go away from it. And when I started to watch more of the Kim Ru, so things where I know that there's a, I don't want to say legitimate because those guys are doing something completely different, right? Yes, they are. They're trying to prove that there is an afterlife, whereas you are trying to clear something out that's unwanted or oftentimes could be viewed as being malicious. Yes. Right. So. And of course, they're doing it. They're taking a far more scientific approach than I am. But you know, because they're trying to record everything now. Right. Because I'm a nerd and, you know, my father being also a nerd has all these gadgets because he had, he let me borrow an EKG meter from a lot. It's a very old machine because it's, it doesn't even have one button and a dial on it. So just to tell you how old this thing is, but it, you know, but it detects electromagnetic fields. Unfortunately, if you point it, you know, at the refrigerator, it will click. But if there's, you know, you're in a basement, there's nothing like that going on. And it's clicking. And then there's something that there's a lot of dramatic field happening. I used to bring it with me, you know, for the, for kicks. It's just like, let's see if I point this in. It's like where I feel something is. And sometimes I would have the machine and I would agree with each other. So funny story. In Illinois, there's a, a tourist town called Galena. And it's a very, very old town rich in history and everything in Grant. Eulis E. Zess Grant, his home was, is there or was there? No, it is there. He's not there. But the home is there. And I'm, I too am a sucker or nerd would have you for those types of things. And I went on a tour. It was just my wife and I went on this, this tour. And we went to cemetery. And then we went to a haunted home. And then we went somewhere else, oh, a haunted bar, believe it or so, there's, there's hotels and bars that are haunted in Galena as well. And the, that little EMF meter that you're talking about would go to the red when anything was near at the, a electromagnetic field. Well, we were in the, the cemetery. And I was fumbling around for my phone so I could record that. And phone was in the back pocket. And I turned towards a large headstone and all of a sudden the thing turned red. I, like, tossed the, the EMF meter thing and started, you know, frantically trying to grab my phone so I could, and by that time I got my phone out of my pocket, it was gone. So I probably scared whatever was there worse than it scared me. But yeah, that was kind of wondering how you, you felt with that because I know my first run in with something like that was a little less than, uh, gallant. It freaked me out a little bit. I honestly, I, I'm, I'm always fascinated with walking through cemeteries with something like that. But I, could I want to say I find it really interesting because I'm not saying spirit doesn't hang around cemeteries. There are some that do, but I'll say, but it really doesn't hold a lot of that. What cemeteries hold is what I call death energy because it's still holding, like when someone transitions, there's death energy. So the body holds on to that and that still has it by the time they're buried. So cemeteries are filled with death energy, which is not a bad thing, but just again, when it's, you know, every couple of feet is another, another source of that collectively, it could, you know, it gives you maybe an uneasy feeling because, you know, we're not, we're not, you know, we're not transitioned. And so it's, you're feeling the difference is what makes people uncomfortable. And as much as it's a park at its, you know, sometimes nice and nice, like lush greenery, but also as I was similar to like a haunted where people collectively believe it's haunted. Therefore, it becomes that similar thing with, you know, you know, you know, you know, everybody knows what a cemetery or a graveyard is and walking into that. You're feeling the death energy and, you know, it can attract spirit because people walk through there. Sure. Well, I mean, here's the other thing too. It's a lot different walking through there at 11 30 at night than it is 11 30 in the morning. Yeah. Let's be honest because you're right because all of a sudden you're told, oh, look at that stone. Oh, look at the data on that and then everything is more, most, more than likely the person you're reading the headstone of, they're not there. They, they've logged on rarely would it, would they actually, would they be there? In my experience, at least maybe someone also has a different experience rarely in my experience is the person still there. But more to be more off to the darker stuff, hang it around the cemetery. Sure. Well, I mean, here's the thing too, right? Because if you go on these tours, they want something to happen. So if they know that something's going to happen when you're, you're there, whether it be what you're talking about death energy or what have you, they want that because then somebody's going to give them a big, you know, good rating and then they're going to want to come and then they're going to be busy. The, the one that kind of got me a little bit though, there were two of them. The one was at a home we went to where there were no electrical outlets. It was gas. You know, they had the gas lights still working in the home. Beautiful. And we, we went in there, but there were only a few of them, right? So it was pretty dark. And then they said that there was a, a child that would come out typically when women were present, which made sense, you know, from a mom type of thing and, yeah, make sense. And of course you, you know, makes you sad and all of those, those feels, but when I see I didn't, it didn't go off when I held it. It went off when my wife held it and went over towards the corner and they said, well, usually it's over in the corner. If, if he's going to come out to, you know, it'll be over in the corner and it did. And she reacted much better than I did. She was excited about that. And this is just, we were talking about somebody who doesn't believe in any of this stuff. She was like, oh my gosh, look at that. That's how cool is that? And then she starts waving it all over the place trying to find it again. But it wasn't happening. The other one was in a bar that they said was back by a pool table. And they said that if you were sitting at the pool table, sometimes you would just all of a sudden get pulled off. So going back there, they didn't have the EMF things. But they, what are those little rod things? Oh, thousand rods. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Those thousand rods and the gentleman who was leading the, the tour was using that. And I gave him a side eye with that thinking, okay, well, you're twisting it around. And he said, okay, put your hands, make, make two fists. And he just shoved him in there, the rods in there. And he said, I'll ask the questions. You just, you just stand there and look pretty. I can do that. And I was surprised that it did that. They would move. I had to know what you're talking about. They move and answer your questions. It's pretty cool. So when you, but you don't need any of those gadgets when you're, you know, but it's, but it's fun to have, obviously. Yeah. You know, I would imagine, especially if you have, you know, people, I mean, a couple of times I wish I had like somebody with me with some recording, recording, I'm equipment because I'm like, hey, if someone, like, someone wants to record something fly at me, it's like, that would be great to put on live. What? That would be great. Usually when I, I mean, I think, you know, almost like 99% of the time I'm solo when I'm doing this kind of stuff. Man, you know what? That's when the old ghost adventures throw up that camera, that stationary camera in the corner and gets the room. But sometimes that gets knocked over too. So you never know. Any other stories for us? Before we wrap it up. Well, see, there was, we're calling like one of the jobs I did in Manhattan. It was a building. I think it was another apartment building, but it was not under construction, but I guess under construction, but also falling apart at the same time. That's why I think there was renovations, but that place had some dark energy around it. And I remember because there was the open staircase that, you know, in some of these buildings, it's one staircase that accesses every floor in the center. And this thingy, like, whatever I felt like, it kept changing the rooms like just ahead of me. Until I'm like, okay, you got it, like, you know, you got to stop and I, you know, I got to at least see what's going on. Like at some point, I eventually caught this thing and it's how it appeared to me was nothing but tentacles, but just tentacles sticking out of the ceiling. Just, you know, just I think with the intention of creeping me out. Oh my god. Which because I'm like, you know, part of me's like, do I run? But I'm like, at the same time, I had the feeling that it's, it can't do anything to me. It's just, it's all, it's all the image imagery. It's giving me in my head like to, you know, I guess scare me off. Right. But at the same time, I'm like, yeah, this is pretty creepy. But yeah, that would, uh, I don't not say my hair, like, I'm not saying my hair doesn't stand out out on my neck when I do some of these things, but I'm, I think like I've built such a, maybe a stab at a first. I'm not saying I never get scared. I'm just like sometimes I'm like, I think I built something, I mean, because there's also a general cosmic law like it can't touch me if I don't want it to. Right. Right. And which is very, very, which is why another reason why I prefer that up homeowners don't, don't do that because they don't, they don't have that, they don't know what that is. They don't, they don't, they don't, even if you tell them, they don't, like, they don't understand the cause that are, maybe they don't believe it in the moment or don't trust it. So, and if you don't trust it, then these things can do more. Right. Would be intention to be intimidating. Uh, but, because, you know, because there are, to be real like, there's dark stuff out there. Oh, I would imagine. I would imagine. So then when you, when you leave a place, do you go through then your own cleansing ritual for yourself and, oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. The way I get, usually when I get home, I have, you know, I have some things I do to, yeah, shake off whatever could have, like hitched a ride or whatever or just to, you know, clear, you know, get like getting, getting dirt on your shoes, just kind of just pat myself down and clear all this out. Wow. Yeah. I, yeah. I would love to accompany you on one of those and I would, I would record it for you. That would be cool. I can't say that I wouldn't, if something happened, I wouldn't go, oh, that I couldn't promise, but it would be legit. And I'll be honest too, that sometimes I think, oh gosh, that would be so cool to go on one of those overnight things where they stay all night and then I'm going, okay, that's pitch black. You can't see shit. Yeah. And you know, something touching you when there's nobody there, yeah, that's, you know, because you hear about that type of thing, especially in, in homes where like they don't want the homeowners there any longer, you know, where they'll scratch, push, move things, hide things. And is that some of the stuff that you get when, when people are, are calling you for that? Tangely, honestly, it's not, it's not a lot, or at least maybe that was a lot of you think, because a lot of people, I like, they, they, they're interpreting it as maybe a halting, it's not actually, I don't consider it actually a halting, as I said, maybe the beginning is just, it's just flunder and energy that just, you know, that just needs to be told, you know, that, just needs to be cleaned out today. Gotcha. And because some, because I'm trying to, like, I've had situations where I've walked in and I'm like, there's no, let's see, there's no spirit causing an issue, but I can tell when, let's just say, family members have really, really good arguments that get maybe pretty heated and I can feel that, and that's what's causing the residual energy to stick around and do, like, you know, do something that it may be know what, that people are not appreciating in that space. But I'm talking about a lot. I don't want everybody to be like, oh my god, I can't have a fight because, I can't have a shouting match because that's, it's going to happen. It's like, no, I'm talking that this is a lot. And either the current owner, maybe the previous owner, maybe they just had somebody stay there and they were just a problem because when we're in a low vibration, in a place, we attract it. So somebody around us is in a low vibration, they're attracting that to themselves. So it becomes, it becomes, so it becomes a complicated situation. I was also wanted to say the like, where I live, specifically on Island, and I could always speak for that because this is where I live. There's a lot of haunted or crazy locations. Did you were talking about a bar before? Like, I've been to a bar, but just recreationally, in Smith Town. I wasn't there to do a job, but I'm like, everyone's like, this place is haunted. And I'm just like, I walked in, I'm like, no, I don't feel it just yet. It's like, I had to walk down, I had to walk into the basement. And I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, down here, I can feel it. I didn't feel it upstairs. Really? And there's locations, I think it's, you know, forgive me, low-out people is it's, is it's sweet hollow road? Is just a crazy spot to like drive down in the middle of the night because there's, I can't say it's haunted, but there's a lot of energy that kind of, that kind of wants to show you something interacting there. So I never quite investigated it. I've been there and it's just like, yeah, it's a little crazy. And, you know, and what I can see in my head with this. But so like, you know, specific locations could hold hold energy that will act on it, act on, I'll see in the war of what everybody thinks it's going to do. Okay. Well, in just so everyone knows, one of our podcast frequent flyer guests, Irene D'Resty, actually happens to know Joseph and knows about his ability as it as it relates to clearing homes and businesses. And she said Joseph, and she called it referred to you as Joe, but she said Joseph is incredible. He is hands down one of the best at doing this. So coming from her, I believe that 100%. You know, one last thing, I keep seeing one last thing. So let's say that someone has a feeling that there's something just not right in their home. Is there anything that they can do on their own? Because let's just assume not everybody's that listens is on long Island and right, New Jersey can call you. What could they maybe do? I, something like this, I want to try and keep it simple for them as possible. One, I really want them to understand that it's their space, they're in control. If they don't want it there, it can't exist with them, but they got to wrap their minds around that. It's a little bit of ignoring it and a little bit of you got to tell it, tell it to leave you alone. It has to, it might, you know, it might stop its feet over there, but it can't be in front of you. It has to be over there where you kind of told it to go. It's first and foremost, I promise everyone, your in control. It can't do anything if you don't want it to. Very good. Second, though, it's whatever, I also want to say, whatever they can do to make them feel better about the situation. If they feel like it's, there's something intimidating, like whether it's, if lighting a candle makes you feel better, if I'll say putting religious symbols around it, if that makes you feel better, do it because that does have, that does help. Very good. Whether it's, you know, whether it's, you know, it's just say a good spirit, it's just being annoying if you do all that stuff because the intention behind it is, I don't watch it crossing this line, you know, for me, and it has, it has to follow that rule. Very good. Yeah, I think the kiss methodology in this instance would be very good. Keep it simple. Sucka. Keep it simple. If you really feel like you're having an issue, you can call me. Oh, there you go. There you go. And we have Joseph's while his website will be on the show notes again. So there is no problem in getting in touch with him. Well, it's just about time to cue the music for today's episode, but don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe to the drop the needle podcast to stay up to date on our latest episode. I'd also like to take a moment to thank everyone again for tuning in, and I hope you enjoyed this episode of the drop the needle podcast. I'd also like to thank our very special guest, Joseph Diro for being on the show today. And Joseph, how can folks get in touch with you again? Let's see, you can contact me through my website or email my phone number, I bought a bunch of social media, I bought a Facebook, I bought Instagram, I'm also on TikTok. I don't know what I'm, I don't know what I'm doing on TikTok, so forgive me people, but like all of them, you everywhere, possible way to set the message out there somehow. Fantastic, and as a matter of fact, if you can send me all of your social handles, I'll make sure that they get put on the show notes. Okay, I'll do that. Excellent. And I invite you to head on over to our show notes where there's going to be a link to this episode with all of Joseph's socials. So, and also on there, you'll be able to book a session with Joseph, if you'd like. He's got so many offerings like we said before. It's not just house clearing, we have cards, we have one-on-one sessions, we have rakey, we have funsway, we have all sorts of things. All right, my drop to needle posse, like Billy Joel says, from the highs to the lows to the end of our show, this is the end of our show. Until next time, this is Jim Allstop wishing you infinite health and happiness and the perfect playlist for your life. Thank you again for being the best part of us. Catch you next time.