4 Things Influencers Have Normalized (& we STILL Overconsume!)

Four things influencers have normalized and we still over consume. Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast where you'll learn to save money, embrace simplicity, and live a ritual life. Here are your hosts, Jen and Jill. If you have spent any amount of time on social media, you get conditioned to just see certain things over and over. Part of it is because it's popular, part of it is because of algorithms, but these influencers truly have normalized things that 10, 15, 20 years ago weren't really normal to over consume in the quantities that we are consuming. We're going over four categories that we just think are not worth it to be spending so much money on. Let's get into it. There's food in the fridge. Not the good kind. Welcome, Frugal Friends. I'm Jen. I'm Jill. And if you too struggle with eating the food you have at home, you're going to love this episode. You're going to hate this episode, but you should stick around and watch it. We know that we need it. That's the thing. Because we know we need it. So this episode is inspired by a video I saw on YouTube from Susanna Friesen titled Five Things We Normalize and Over Consume Without Question. And she went through some of the things that she sees on social media that she herself started to over consume without question. And so I thought it would be cool to expand on that list with some things that we personally, Jill and I, over consume because of what we see on social media and really have to keep ourselves in check with. And so the first one is food. Oh my God, we should go get a burger in prize. We just went to the grocery store. Like two days ago. We don't even need to eat that. That can just stay. We can eat that tomorrow. They've got a happy hour. And it's like, it's a happy hour. It's basically free. When you think about the math, it makes sense. Oh, I really want a chicken strip. We have those in the freezer right now. Those are not the same. And you know that. I mean, do you want me to go hungry? There's food in the fridge. Not the good kind. Oh my God, my phone just opened to Uber Eats. Buy one going free. Like one of us doesn't even have to pay for that. They're paying us to eat it when you think about it. I just don't even have the energy to cook. You know? The energy to go to a restaurant. Yes. Is there different energies? They are different energies. These are all the things that go through my head when I am trying to decide if I'm going to eat out or eat the food I have at home. And all valid arguments. Honestly, a lot of times if I know it's frozen in the freezer, I'm like, it'll keep. It's fine. It'll stay frozen. And it'll be there for another day when I will eat that thing. But right now I want to go out. I just, and sometimes it is like when we were like, we have food at home, but not the good kind. Right? Like that is, that is spoke to me so to my soul. So and food is the biggest expense that we have to think about day to day. So you know our big three expenses that we think impact our budgets most are food, housing, and transportation. We don't make housing and transportation decisions often, but you have to make food decisions every day. And it's a category that we often feel guiltiest about. We will make decisions about food in the moment, what feels good, and then just live with the guilt and the shame later. And that has been enormous. That like, that like giving into the dopamine and feeling the guilt later or to just like be like, oh, I'm just going to yola. I'm going to live and I'm not going to feel guilty about it. That never works. The guilt does always come and it may be short lived, but we can say like, oh, I'm just going to like live my life, whatever's in my bank account, whatever, and not care. But the caring does always come. Or just to be like, I don't know how to cook. We can't get away with that. Oh my God. My friends, we can't say that anymore because here's the thing. We all know how to eat. We all have to eat. So it is basic, basic human necessity, survival skill to be able to know how to feed yourself. And you can clip that and you can play that for your man or woman who doesn't cook. That too. Clip that and play for them. I know you could say, I think I can figure it out. I know how to drive to the drive through. No, like truly how to feed yourself cooked food. I'm not saying it's going to be the most tasty thing ever in your mouth, but knowing some kitchen skills is a requirement of just growing up. We need to know how to use kitchen. Yeah, we need to know how to use kitchen. Kitchen, kitchen go here. Yeah. Okay. So some of the things that have been normalized and like, let us know in the comments as we go through this list when you feel the most seen. And if you feel more seen as we go on, just like follow up comments and be like timestamp and be like seen, feel seen and be like shut up or whatever. Stop talking. I don't like that. Whatever you're feeling in the moment, leave it in the comment and we will receive it for you because it's usually what I'm feeling too. But so like eating out multiple times a week. So if you're watching this on YouTube, like we're going to be also playing some examples on you in the background. So eating out, like eating out multiple times a week has become like this status symbol. The more you can get takeout or the more times you can eat out, the more like well off you are. And in reality, like these influencers don't care about your future. They don't care about you. So like you emulating them doesn't impact you positively impacts them because then they get to profit from your impulsivity. They get to do brand deals with food companies. They get free food from restaurants sometimes unless they're rude, which we've all seen the videos of those people. But like they do it for themselves. They don't do it for you. So like why are we trying to emulate them? Yeah, not just going out but getting takeout. Never before has it been so accessible to us and so underscored by social media and advertisements. And yet it's it draws me because it benefits me and that it's convenient. But I would say it's the good food that tired that often that like I just don't have the energy to cook that many days a week. I need to be looking at something else about my life. And eating is actually the most important thing. And if I don't feel like I consistently ever have the time to be able to make simple meals for myself, arguably something else got to go. We got to clear the plate metaphorically in another area so that we have the energy to feed ourselves basic human necessity. Yeah. Oh, basic human food too. I didn't even get into like talking about these like over complicated, like a beautiful recipes that we see on social media being normalized to know I'm talking like rice, chicken, broccoli. And then you just change up the seasoning. Maybe we got some salsa and cheese. Maybe we got some garlic or Parmesan. Maybe we got some ranch like simple stuff. We have an emergency meal like recipe book that has 15 different like simple meals that you can customize like via seasonings and stuff. Things you most likely have on hand and would take you like 15 minutes to put on the table. FrugalFriendsPodcast.com slash meals. Get that because these are these are the things that we should be able to cook for ourselves and make them delicious. Because again, gosh, that good food versus food at home that spoke to me so highly. That is typically the reason I choose to go out because I do a lot of meal prep. I do hate to cook and I am busy and I am tired. So when I found those three things out about myself, I was like, OK, I need to make the barrier to entry to eat lower. And so that includes a lot of meal prep. So like I am taking the rice and chicken broccoli and I'm like meal prep and like a bodybuilder. I am not a bodybuilder, but I'm meal prepping like one. And I've got then like, you know, maybe some some a noodle dish and some potatoes with beef. And honestly, in cottage cheese and hot honey and sweet potatoes, like I was actually that was viral on TikTok. It is good. That's easy. OK, so easy to. So I'm doing stuff like that. But sometimes I can get a little bored and I want to eat out. So like that's not never. It's not never. I do still eat out once a week, like maybe twice. And maybe there's sometimes where I eat out every other week. But so that's kind of where it kind of levels out. But another thing that has been normalized is like door dash and getting food delivered. Yes, because it's so easy. So easy. I have a rule that if I don't pick it up, I don't want it bad enough. Like that's the rule. I have never had door dash Uber Eats like on my phone for more than a day. Like maybe if I'm traveling and I literally cannot go to pick it up, then I will get it delivered to like a hotel room. My hot take is that I don't really care for takeout because there's always a mistake and it never tastes good by the time it gets to my house. So that's how I cut that out. Personally, I don't like eating at restaurants because I have children that are crazy. So I do eat a lot of takeout. But I keep remembering there is one influencer on TikTok who is a budget influencer and he got so much flack for taking a door dash brand deal. And basically going against all the things he promotes, like his audience was so pissed. And the reason influencers are normalizing stuff is because there's so much money to be made with these apps like door dash and Uber Eats. Because we're all over consuming it. Yeah, because they don't care about your financial security. They care about their financial security. So they will compromise their morals for that bag. OK, the next category of overconsumption travel. We're coming for you. Book that trip. Book that trip and put it on a payment plan. Life is too short. Life is too short to wait for others. Life is too short to not experiencing because you don't have the money right now. Baby, put it on a payment plan, paid it off in 18 months. Book the trip. And you know what? I don't feel like she's on a trip when she says that. It doesn't look like she's on a trip when she's saying that. It's this idealized aspirational. That's what we're buying. Like travel is this like and come at me, come at me in the comments. You can say it. You can say stop talking. We know we're making you mad. I'm not going to stop talking, but you can tell me to. It's one of the most popular goals people have. And it's not bad, but influencers have normalized to a level that is financially detrimental to us, especially as people like with debt, raising young families. Like, do you know how many vacations did you go on when you were growing up? And what to what extent were they right one a year pretty much and other little trips, but they would be camping weekend camping. It's very, very simple. And so like, I think her arguments are valid. Yeah. Just like the first video that was like a joke, but still honestly, so valid. Yeah, life is short. So there does have to be this balance between like experiencing. But I think we've equated travel with experiencing life to the fullest. That's what they've made us believe. Like you're not experiencing life to the fullest if you're not traveling. And I just that's BS to me. Like you should be able to build a life that is full in experience without having to leave it. Yeah. I have such a difficult relationship with this concept because travel is one of my favorite things to do. And I do go on a lot of trips, not I don't go into debt for them, but I know a lot of people do. And I know a lot of people that do like personally. And I've heard this argument and I'll even when Eric and I are different places and we interact with an older couple, we will often hear them say, I'm so glad you're doing it while you're young. You know, we had all these plans and we were going to wait till retirement and we just weren't ever able to. And it is kind of affirming to me like, yeah, this is when I, but it's unfortunate because when you've got the energy and the time to do it is usually not when you have the money to do it. And so how do we make these things align? And I think it's not don't travel. It's don't over consume travel is ultimately what we're saying and that that is what influencers and even people in our community and network are pushing. It's making it seem as though everyone's always going on some sort of trip and it's always beautiful and it's super luxurious. And I think we're trying to say, no, it's not. No, it's not always the most luxurious. Sometimes it is just that week in a way to someplace close that we were able to use our points for or this thing that we've been saving up because we know how to utilize sinking funds or because we paid off the debt, we are now able to do some of these things. So there's there's there is for us normal people a give and take you are allowed to value travel, but it's going to be no to other things. And it's it cannot be a yes to every single trip. And realize that like not every trip is all it's cracked up to be. Oh, my God. There is an expectations versus reality happening here. I love this trend on social media will play a couple on mute. But like these big expensive places that all these travel are all these influencers are having to like Maldives, Bali, that one place in Italy that everybody's getting married at. Like Florence and like Venice and all of these places that are just now so overcrowded, not what they're cracked up to be. And honestly, not worth it unless you really do have like the money to do them and the money to go at the best time. Like, I think you should experience these things. But stuff like that experience like later in life when you have the disposable funds to do it right. Yeah, like don't do it cheap because then you're going to be like lugging your all your luggage around and doing it. Like it's half of it is going to be not fun for half of it to be fun. And if you can wait and save, you can make it all fun. Yeah. Or as much as possible. In idiot abroad, have you ever seen that show is kind of similar to this expectations versus reality? It's Ricky Gervais's friend who he takes to all these different places and just kind of like debunks how much we've idolized these places. Like he goes and sees the pyramids. He's like, that's really cool. But like his experiences, there's there's tons of people and there's a lot of trash and just has a very, I mean, really pessimistic view on things. But if you've got the travel itch and you just kind of want to like see the world, but also have it be a little de-influenced for you. That's a good show to watch. Yes. But yeah, I I love I'm not a big traveler just even without kids. But like I think the most fullest experiences that I've had have been when I'm pursuing an activity versus a place. So like I want to go ziplining. So like I'm choosing a really cool zipline and that doesn't have to be in the rainforest. There are plenty of good ones in Florida or the US. Yes. You know, so like I think kind of maybe reframing it and being like, OK, I want to do this event or conference or activity. And then trying to plan travel around that could probably save you a lot of money versus doing these really like big overhyped thing. We did an episode on like vacation doops. This is a little while ago. We can link it in the show notes. But talking about, OK, here's the places a lot of people go, you know, like Greece. And but here's another place that you could go that kind of gives similar vibes for less money, less crowds. So and even if you don't listen to that episode, you can just Google those things. If there's a type of experience that you want, you could ask the Internet. Well, what's an alternative? Somebody has definitely found a dupe for it. The next category is we're not going to make you any happier. OK, just like brace yourself over consumption of little treats. I think you should treat yourself. I know you were thinking about it and you were like, I don't know. Do it. Do it. Who's going to stop you? Me? No. You? No. A man? No. So go get it. That little laugh. That little OK, that voice is everywhere in my head on social media. Yeah, that laugh is everywhere. It's haunting me. But yeah, like I I mean, I love a little treat. I do love a little treat. I don't hate myself. I'm not a monster. Like I love a little treat. Yeah. But when did we cross the line of deciding that nearly functioning in a day deserves a treat? Like what you were saying, like if that is getting through the day every day, is that much of a struggle for you? We need to stop focusing on treats and start focusing on other things. Yeah. Yeah. If we're that tired, there's other things that need that need to be cared for. And we obviously we will take away like short seasons of sickness in the family, like injury. Oh, yeah. Treat yourself during those. Right. Right. We're not monsters, right? You know, but outside of those. Yeah. Caveats like that. We really need to figure this out. Yeah, treats are happening like all the time. We've got we've got this stuff to prove it. Treat, you know, like can we define treat now versus habit? Right. It then just it is just a habit. That's the thing. We're calling it a treat. And really, it's just what we're doing every single day. So it's not that treat really does imply it's something special. It's something that doesn't happen very often. It's, you know, we've we've planned for it intentionally. And it's not just like I'm going to get my favorite coffee every single day. And spending a ton of money on it or, you know, I'm going shopping every single weekend. Or every time every Friday, I finished the week. I go shopping. I had a bad day. I go I go to TJ Maxx and I look around. I buy something. Yeah. Like when did we like needs? Do we need a reward for for doing hard things for being an adult? Yes. Yeah. Of course. We're not monsters. But also do we like do we? OK, but I think it's worth reevaluating the ways that we do care for ourselves. I think when we say a little treat, it's it's moving the needle in a decent direction of of caring for ourselves, seeing that we did something. We accomplished something or we just frankly got through the day and we know what that took for us. And so we want some sort of reward. I don't think that that's bad. But I think we've to narrowed what a reward or a treat is. We've allowed social media to dictate what it is when in reality, we can reward ourselves with a really good home cooked meal. We can reward ourselves by getting those 10,000 steps. We can reward ourselves by taking 30 minutes outside to breathe some fresh air. Like those are real treats that don't cost any money that are going to actually be fulfilling for us. And I think we want dopamine. That's OK. We kind of function off of it. It's like it's good. Makes us happy. But I think we forget that there are so many ways to get dopamine that doesn't involve us overextending our wallets. Like some of the things that I just mentioned, I mean, Google, like all the ways to get dopamine, it has to do with diet and body movement and engaging with people we enjoy and laughing and playing. And none of that needs to cost money. Yeah, none of it needs to cost money. We do deserve a treat. You do deserve a treat. But you're going to feel so much better about that treat if that treat doesn't cost you money, if it doesn't cost you regret later or guilt later, that is that's a treat. Right. Like you don't need to go buy another candle or another chachki from TJ Maxx, like ultimately, that's going to bring you more pain. That's not a treat. It was fun in the moment. It was fun to anticipate buying it, but then it's over. Yeah. And then you slump again. Yeah, I remember when I would just and I wrote about this in our book by what you love without going broke, I would end up in the Starbucks drive-through and not know I was there until I was already ordering. Like it just became a habit when I would just be out and about doing errands. I would see a Starbucks and I would pull in. And so now I don't go to Starbucks at all. She's boycott. Yeah, she's Starbucks ramp that we can like I did a whole whole eight minutes on. We can link to. But I do enjoy an iced coffee from a local coffee shop. And that is something I buy guilt free. But I do want to keep it a treat. I do want to keep it special. And the more times you do something, the less special it becomes. I want my iced coffee to be special. So I usually make my iced coffees at home. And then like once a week, I'll be out and about. And I'll be like, buy a good coffee shop. And I'm like, oh, treat time. And then the treat feels like a treat. And I know it's not a habit. And that coffee isn't going to be the reason you go broke again, unless you are doing it every single day. But it is the habit that's built out of that type of thing. Of any time that I feel like I need a reward, I spend money. It doesn't even matter what it is we're spending money on. Coffee is the least expensive of it. Sometimes it's whatever on the Internet that somebody is trying to tell us is going to be the next big thing that's going to solve all of our problems. And frankly, it's just not. Just put the phone down, go outside, touch grass. The the the last one. OK, the last one, one that we're going to make you angry with here is I feel like most people can agree with us on that. I think we will be a unifying. We're going to come together. We're going to come together. The over consumption of seasons. No, it's fine. It's fine. I'm used to doing everything myself anyway. It's around here. I've never getting a real treat again. Move it to the left. Move it to know. Move it to your other left. Move it to the other. Oh, my God. Do you want some help? Not if you're not going to do it right now. Hold me up. Hold me up. You're not holding me up. You have got to be kidding me. I don't want to set up the 72 piece nativity scene. Oh, don't do it. Have you lost your mind? Oh, my God. Who put the cheap ornaments in the front? I mean, probably actual footage of like all of our home. Hold me up. Hold me up. You're not holding me up. Not if you're not going to do it right. We do. We get ourselves into a tizzy over our own like self-imposed expectations. Yeah. Because of what we're consuming online, because it looks like this is what everybody's doing. Everybody's changing out everything. Yeah. And that was, I mean, I just love that. I think that's that was that one was so funny. But like, honestly, the real thing that influencers have normalized is redecorating your house with every season. And it is good examples if you're watching the video. They're playing on me right now. But like, literally every season going through and like, it's spring, so my house is pink. It's summer, so my house, everything is orange or yellow. It's fall and now everything's orange. Now it's winter and everything's red and green. Like it is so much. And it's so funny, like there's such a dichotomy between like when I was growing up, it was a few heirloom heirloom like decorations for Christmas. And that was it. Yeah. And that was like, obviously bought by our parents. And now our parents are like the worst culprits of this like, you know, kids are out of the house. And so what else are they going to do? And so now it just looks like home goods threw up in the house. So it's so it's so funny. But I do love this feeling of a few heirloom decorations for each season. I'm not a monster. We're no monsters. Let's celebrate the seasons and and identify the change with some kind of symbolism. The lesson here probably is there is good things to be celebrated about ourselves, about the different seasons. But in those good things, there's always going to be a reason to overspend. And that's where we've got to find our own radical middle of how to enjoy that thing, right, how to lean into the fact that we love dopamine. That's fine. We love to spend on it. We love the seasons. That's fine. We don't have to be spending a ton of money on it. And really, you know, we did a who got episode a while ago, but kind of like leaning into the winter season. Cozyness. Yeah. And and so I think there's something really beautiful and a lot of wisdom to be found in embracing every season. We actually have a whole chapter in our book about, you know, living into your season, recognizing what season you're in and allowing your financial decisions to align with that. We believe so much in that, like as we move through the seasons, allowing that to help dictate what life looks like, to be able to slow down, be able to speed up, spend time with friends, stay in whatever it is. But at every point of that, right, that's that's healthy, beneficial. But there's always going to be marketers and influencers and people in our community trying to make it seem like in order to get that, in order to get that coziness, in order to feel an enjoyment of the season, you have to spend money. And that's where we've got to really recognize when that's happening and push back to say, I can live into winter, embrace coziness, have a who got vibe and it not mean that home goods has to explode in my apartment or that, you know, I've got to spend a ton of money to be able to hang out with friends and have a fun fall festive time. Like we can enjoy the seasons, embrace the seasons and find ways to do that while not spending money. It's not deprivation. It's just being more creative. Yeah, because these influencers profit from showing us these products and us buying through their affiliate links. They get the brand deals like they're doing it because they're making money off of it. And that's what and so many people are doing it. Even micro influencers are making money off of selling products. And that's why it seems like everybody's doing it, but everybody's not. It's just influencers and they've normalized it, but it's not reality. It's not normal. Like you can even one of the big things I heard this like this fall and we showed the video of it is like women changing out their kitchen aid mixers. And that's wild. We all know that's wild. From your summer kitchen aid to your fall kitchen aid. Yeah, no, we're not doing that. That is wild behavior. Right. Like this is and it's not just decor and appliances. It's I cannot believe I'm saying appliances. It's like clothes to like you have to buy new clothes for every season. And yes, I do think you should have different clothes for different seasons. That makes sense. And I don't think it all has to be black, white and beige either. Right. Like I think you you can have color. You don't necessarily have to have a capsule wardrobe with the same things that every other girl has in her capsule wardrobe. But like needing to buy new clothes every season. We don't necessarily need pillows for every season, blankets for every season, clothes for every season, soap dispensers, towels, the entire mantelpiece spreads. It's like choose an area. Here's here's where we will say truly we're not monsters. It is fun to be able to mark the season in a certain way. But decide what area of your home that's going to happen in or what are the couple of things that are going to help you mark that season? If it's your mantel, fine. But it doesn't need to be your mantel and your kitchen table and your bedside table and your kids' rooms. Like it doesn't have to happen everywhere. Like you can have a couple of pieces that you put out at a certain place in your home, and that's where you mark your seasons. Yeah, the more common something becomes the less special it becomes. And so few things in our lives are special or commemorative or have meaning behind them. So if we have the opportunity to make special things more special, then we should embrace that. We should we should strive to do that. And I think in seasonality, I think we can make things special. Yeah, agreed. And you know what is special every single time we've not over consumed it. No, not by a just right. The villain of the week. That's right. It's time for the best minute of your entire week. Maybe a baby was born and his name is William. Maybe you paid off your mortgage. Maybe your car died and you're happy to not have to pay that bill anymore. Duck bills, buffalo bills, Bill Clinton. This is the bill of the week. Hi, my name is Jessica from Greenfield, Wisconsin. I'm calling in with my bill of the week. Recently, I just switched phone providers and went from US cellular to Mint Mobile. US cellular was charging me a little over $54 a month in service and jumping over to Mint Mobile. I am now saving much more money and glad I did. And I'm the recent new listener to your amazing podcast. Thank you. Yes. She made the call and lowered how much it costs to make. 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You all love to hate it and I love it. So that's great for me. But we, believe it or not, have a much bigger closet here than we did where in our house. And I don't want to say that that's why I'm buying more clothing. But like, I think it might be. I'm going to really look inward publicly. I think it's like, well, I got room for it. I do think we are goldfish. Like we do fill up the spaces we inhabit. I know. Yeah. I really did pare down. But then in this past year, yeah, there's been a lot. There's a lot of reasons. Like we now go to an office regularly. So I think, you know, wanting to have clothes. I think I'm still learning what is my personal style. My body has changed. And so the clothes that I wore 10 years ago aren't working out for me anymore. And so there's a lot of things. But I think like what you said earlier, it's. Do it, but put a cap on it. And I think that that's where I'm at now is like, all right, and done. You got to define your. How to define when it is that, all right, I have the clothes that I need. I've got my staples. We're good. Yeah. What about for you? Fitness stuff. Like gym memberships, coaches. That's really, that's really, I'm not big on to like fitness attire. I've had to buy more because I've used it so much. But yeah, like that kind of stuff. I am still on this journey of like kind of. Optimizing my body. I, which sounds that's weird. I'm not like biohacking or anything. Like that's not what it catch me in the cryo freezer. Right. Like I am trying to get back to the way I was before I had kids. I know that's like, you know, don't come at me, but it is what I'm trying to do. And so I'm not going to like there are some things I've drawn the line. Like there are some things I won't spend money on to do that. But but yeah, it is a goal that I have. And I am not procrastinating. And then I'll buy something and then not use it to try and get to where I want to be. Like I'm just trying things out. But yeah, it's it has a lot of the things that I've purchased have been like normalized by social media. And I've kind of and I have like held back and not like tried to like impulsively get on the train. Like I just recently got a walking pad. So like it's kind of like it's like a small treadmill. But I bought it on Facebook Marketplace. And that has been really helpful. I'm really glad that I bought that. So I bought like a water pack for my longer runs. I don't use it on every run, but like, you know, eight plus miles. So yeah, like I am adding more things, but trying to be very mindful. It is tough when you identify kind of a new goal for yourself or you want to pursue something different, which I think is great. I think that we all should be doing that as as we age and move through life. But when you don't quite know what's going to work for you, sometimes there is this trial and error. But I really do like the way that you approach it in that, you know, you you'll do you'll do the trials of what, you know, a thing with a coach or a subscription and really identify will I get use out of this or not. If you want to get the equipment like the walking pad, you got it off of Facebook Marketplace. Like there are ways for us to be doing some of these things. Yes, some of it will inherently cost us money, but we can pursue it in ways that are still frugal and values aligned. Like for me with clothing, there are some pieces that I'm like, yeah, my wardrobe really could use this. And I'm going to the thrift store first. And so still implementing some of these things when when our season of life does call for, we are going to have to invest in this a little bit if we want to achieve it. I did try to get the walking pad for free first, since I am an influencer. I did reach out to some companies to see if I could get a walking pad from them. And they all shut me down because they're like, you don't post enough and you don't sell enough. Like and I was like, fair. And that is our brand. We are the frugal brand. And so then I went to the second step is low cost. So I got on Facebook Marketplace. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, I did go down. I went down the line. Try to get it for free. Well, we preach, you know. Yeah. Yes. Well, thank you all so much for being here. If you have something that you would have added to this list, like what's your fifth thing? What's your let us know? I am over consuming this. Let us know. And if you've read our book, please leave us a review like this one from Dana. Five stars. I've been a frugal friend since the pandemic. What Dana and have enjoyed the takes of Jen and Jill. I liked their vulnerability and was able to connect with Jill when she grapples with how the decisions in her 20s have affected her financial realities in her 30s. Yeah, I'm a teacher and chose to live out my 20s working low wage jobs abroad. Instead of investing in my Roth IRA, I am happy to be more informed. But like Jill have owned my decisions. Jen and Jill's philosophy on frugal living and values based spending is something I'll take with me to the grave. Yes. Oh, that's diabolical. Honored to be in the grave with you. Yeah, we will go there. We'll follow you there. Oh, yeah. I'll follow you into the dark. It's like a death cab key for cutie song. Yes. Thank you so much for listening. Please leave a comment on the video. If you haven't subscribed, half of the people who watch our videos are not subscribed to our YouTube channel. So please subscribe over on YouTube. Even if you're not on YouTube frequently, please subscribe. It helps us so much. And if you have read the book, please leave a review on Amazon. If you have it, buy what you love book.com. You can get your copy there and we will see you next time. Bye. Frugal Friends is produced by Eric Siriani. Okay, Jen. Yeah. What's the last free thing you did that was like so fun? Really gave you that dopamine. The last free thing? Oh, um, I don't know. We, so maybe it wasn't free, but we did have a little holiday party. That was fun. Yes. It was free for me. Right. And we did bring a salad that I got the expense of ingredients for. Yeah, you made a, you made a really bomb salad that I ate a lot of. And it was just a fun time. We did brackets of like battling for the best Christmas movie and the second best Christmas song. Right. Cause we all know that the best Christmas song is by Mariah Carey. Yes. So we found those and it was such a fun time. Yeah. That was like a, it was a fun free game. Yes. I didn't pay for that game at all. You know, I just found chat, GPT helped me list out movies and songs. I found a bracket online and I just wrote it virtually and cast it onto my computer, cast my iPad to the TV. Yeah. Yeah. It worked relatively flawlessly. Yeah. Yeah, that was super fun. Yeah. How about you? Recently, so I did, we did recently get free tickets to a comedy show. Again, it happens so regularly. Like while we talk about unsubscribing from emails, there are so many emails worth subscribing to like local venues. So there's this local venue that we'll put on shows. And I mean, this person, they were actually on tour, Fiona, something. She was super great. Had a blast, brought friends with us. Yeah. There's events that happen at our office that we get to go to that are free. Honestly, just like plugging into community. There's often, there are, there are oftentimes to spend, right? As with any like good thing, it's going to come with plenty of opportunities to spend money. But also if we do it right, some opportunities to not spend money. Yes. Agreed. Cool. Bye.