#658 - Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern)

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He's been a father. He's been a dang inmate. He's been a drug dealer. He's been a... But I'm just saying this is a man who has done, I mean that admirationally, honestly, he's been a father. He's just done so many things. Life has put so much on his shoulders and I'm curious to know what that's, what it's like to be him, you know, and I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today. I feel very fortunate to announce today's guest is Mr. Mike Tyson. Hello. You look sharp, Mike. Thank you. Thank you very much. I went to Stefano Richie because I knew I was coming here. I wasn't going to wear a suit. I was going to be casual, but I had to be casually sharp. Yeah, yeah. I think you did it, man. Thank you. Do you like dressing up or not? I love it. You do? I do just to know where I'm in my closet, just trying to close. Yeah. Like a little mannequin? Or like a very tough mannequin? No. It's like a real life stud. Just trying to close. You like putting on stuff. Have you always been like that? Or was that kind of... You know, let me tell you a story. One day, these guys, they pretty much bullied me to help them. That's how I fell in love with pigeons, to help me build their pigeon coop. And so I started coming here often, but I was 11 years old. I never knew about washing and changing clothes. My mother would take a hot washing clup, put soap on the towel, just wash me. I never washed myself. So after being on the pigeon coop, I have tar from building the pigeon coop. I got shit on me. Some guys took me to this neighborhood dance. And everybody said, yo, John, hey, Winky, this your friend. He got shit on him. I mean, everybody started laughing at me. I started laughing, but I was crying. They were talking about me. And ever since that, I became a criminal. I only bought nice clothes. There's something. And then I became a criminal of bad nice clothes, and then I got a laugh at the pigeon. Now, every time somebody says, wow, you look nice. Yeah, you're under arrest, but you look great. Yeah, oh, I love those pictures. Oh, those are the great ones. Yeah, there's something more respectable about a criminal that is well dressed, isn't there? He become the rogue that we love. It becomes the what, is it? The rogue that we love. The rogue that we love. Rogue. ROGUE. Yes, sir. Yes. Thank you for joining me today, Mike. I appreciate you, man. And thank you for just, you've shared a lot of your life with the world. Is it sometimes scary how much you've shared? Like when you are, some of it is. I have to direct you for a moment. You had one man who mistaken called me a drug dealer. I don't have the discipline to be a drug dealer because I keep getting high in my own talk. I wish I had the discipline to be a drug dealer. I would be rich. Like everybody wants to buy the cops. Everybody want to buy for me. God damn, I was, oh man. I'd have bought Coke from you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. You were going to say what I interrupted you. I enjoyed getting high. Getting high was my life. Alcohol too, but both of them was my life. I love, man. I'm sober for nine years, believe that. Sober for nine years, congratulations. Sober for nine years. On the count of three, can we both say our favorite drug if you want to say it at the same time, or is that weird? Hey man, I'm a equal opportunity. I didn't have no favorite drug. You didn't have a favorite, huh? No. And then it got me out of me, I like. Anything that got you out of you. Yeah. Yeah. There's something about being yourself. It just gets to be too much. Too much power, man. God gave me more than you can handle. You think that God put too much power in your hands? No, no way. God broke me before he crowned me. Of course I am. I'm going to be able to handle it. Thank you. Thank you. You know what I mean? You're a cool kid. Take that. Boom. He doesn't do that. You know, I've sat across from like different folks and, uh, but nobody I think has had like, like on their own face has so many like, you have a lot of scars on your that are just built into you from like wars, right? Do you ever look at your own face and you can know, do you know, like which ones are from which fights and stuff? I think, you know, listen, that's interesting that you said, I think, I think it comes from accumulation of fighting. You know, you don't wake up overnight and you got a line on your face. It comes after the year, the year the waking up and you say, well, I got a line on my face, which would be it was the start. Let's just start a 10 years ago. But you just haven't seen it yet. Oh, so you kind of gets worn in sort of. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. You have a documentary that you're starting that's coming out this year on Netflix. Is that right? I believe so. I don't know when it's coming out, but I believe it's coming out soon. Okay. You've done a lot of documentaries. Did you feel different about this one? Like, what do you feel like there's something different to offer now to people that are going to consume it? That's interesting that you said that I'm going to give you all the fanfare. There's things that people believe that other people want to hear from me that I've been saying constantly since the beginning of interviews. So it's more to more their perspective than it is my perspective. I may think it's shit. Yeah. They may think it's a masterpiece. No, I'm serious. Yeah, no. It's all perspective. You know, most of us don't like ourselves on the phone. You know, we don't like ourselves up to that much, you know. You know, the people, the people do, I guess, right? You can't help it that you're very, that anybody came to see you and you're very popular. You can't help that. Not your fault. You think it's your fault really that you're like this? No, not your fault. No, I think it's interesting. Yeah. It's sweet too. Yeah. I can tell that you feel that way. If you had a, if there was a time in your life that you could go back to and had a documentary crew that just in your own life, like in your childhood or anything, that you could just have that footage. What would it be? What it would be when I first met my mentor, Custobardo. I mean, first when I met when I first... Like you mean the first day? No, when I first got in trouble and I was in that juvenile detention, I was doing stuff there and then I started boxing and started changing my life. Then I met him. That's the part I wish he could come back. Yeah. I missed that. What was it about at that? I don't know. I had somebody I loved and they loved me. How'd you know that he loved you? Oh, fuck. I'm going to tell you. He, um... If anybody say something... If anybody say something... No, it's okay. Look, it's hard to know. Sometimes it's hard to know. No, if anybody say something negative about me, he would attack them. 75, he would attack them. So he protected you. Yeah. Then why are you having me talking about this bullshit? It's stop. Stop. Stop, motherfucker. Stop. Stop. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Stop. Shouldn't have bell, shouldn't have go back to the corners for a minute. Um... No, I think it's just interesting. Like, there's times in your life where people come along and they kind of like hold you up by the neck and like, you know, kind of dry your cheeks and stuff like that and give you a place to be. Everyone needs a mentor in their life. Everybody. You know, you got a bad mentor. That's better than having no mentor. What was it like with Cus outside of the ring? What was that like? Like, what was that energy? Because their family adopted you or no? Yeah. Did you have your own room? Well, I had to earn that. You did? You had to earn it? I had to earn that, yeah. How did you earn it? Like, what was that like you mean? I had to do my chores, you know, get my grades up, you know, I'm getting C minuses, so I'm getting, I'm getting Ds now, getting Ds, I'm coming up, teaching the right nice letters back at home, I'm improving, all that crap. So, yeah, he loves that stuff. And was there stuff around the house that you had to do? Like, what kind of chores? I cleaned the dishes, I took out the garbage, I mopped and sweep the floor. Yeah, I did the whole thing, man. Like, what was the different feeling that you got there, I guess? Well, I felt I had the home I had, and that was a structure I had through my tour, me building my discipline up. After every train, every time I finished training, I had to mop and sweep the gym, sweep and mop the gym. Even when I was a big shot, I'm getting front cover of Sports Illustrated, I'm taking all the pictures, boom. All day, the cameras, everybody looking at me, at the end of the day, they're booming them up. Yeah. Do the gym. Amen. Whenever, cuz he passed away, how long was he in your life for? Since I was 12, so I was 19. And when your career grew, did you guys, did it put any, like, was it harder to be close to him? Like, did you get, like, so kind of like, busy that you, that it was tougher to... You know, let me explain something. He was like my father, he was my adopted father, legally adopted father. I wasn't out of his sight much. He didn't let me out of his sight much. He watched you all night, well, he was my, he was my everything. If anybody says something negative about me, or actually, he got the duck, at least I'm on the punch. Yeah. He was just like that. And had you felt that before in your life, you think, or now? Never, never. If he told me to kill somebody, I wouldn't. No, I'm telling you, that's how it was. That's how deep it was. He said, kill that, but he's dead. Yeah, tight shit, man. People, hey, people gotta go. Yeah, no, but that's the, I'm just keeping it real. That's how I feel it. That's how I feel it. That's how I feel it. So the connection was that it was just that much? Yeah, it's true. After he passed away, did you try to find, like, another, like, custom model in your life? There's nobody else like him. But was there a part of you that was looking for something like that? No, it doesn't exist. That part was filled in? Yeah. He was born only for me. He was what? He was born only for me. Oh, you feel like he was made for you? That's awesome. And he probably felt that about you, I bet. Well, I hope so. I hope so. Have you had the opportunity to try and be that for somebody else in your life? Or like, do you feel like you have some of the same, like, capabilities that he had? It takes a special person to be that type of person, and we're all special in different ways. I'm nowhere near the person that he was. No, we're born from two different structures and fibers. He's just a total disciplinary and a yucca heart. He's just, he almost wants to be perfect. He hardly makes any mistakes around people. He won't do anything. He's just wants to be right at every moment. You know, he puts himself in position to be right. He's just, I can say megalomaniac, but he was just a disciplinary person. Sometimes he'd go in your south even. He just, he thought I'd have us a beam for a week. Sometimes he'd, what? I'm sorry. I'm going to move your mic. He just may stop, he just may stop eating for a week. Just stop. My wife did the same shit. You got this or what? And Mike, she was flagging me from back there. She was. Oh, that's a bullshit. I knew that, right? You see, I knew that shit. I know this shit. Kiki, do you love me? She loves you. That's what it's like. If you love somebody, you got to keep them clean, you know? I hear you. Can you say that last part though? He was such a disciplinarian. Was he, was he disciplined in his own life? Like, did he like, did he ever? He was in the army, he was in World War II. Okay, so he was very, he almost had an institutionalized disciplinarian. Like, if I'm going to a school dance and it's like, what, three miles away in a taxi, I say, cuss the taxi, it'll be a little late. I can't stand for you. Run home now. I went to the girl's booth to wait for the cab. I said, baby, you got to wait for the cab. I got my shoes on running home. Did you? I got to run home, yeah. And in dress shoes, probably for the dance? I got to run. I got to run them. Get home now. Run. Click, click, click, click, click. Dang, man. Yeah. It's hard to keep a girl when you acting like that. Oh, I was, I was too, yeah. I was extreme. It was hard to have a girl. I was too extreme with training. What was your relationship like, was it easier for you to relate to girls when you were young, like to date in that kind of stuff? No way. It was, listen, it was all about fighting. It was all about fighting. Oh, so you really set, you weren't even trying to date or anything as a youngster? Yeah, I dated kind of late in life. Yeah, because I was, I was, I was just, I was filming her fighting. I talked to a girl. I'm talking about fighting. She's talking about what? Yeah. Yeah, they don't want to see you shadow boxing. Yeah. Because they want to hug. I mean, they like the part when the ref tries to separate them. No, no. They don't mind seeing me shadow boxing, but they want to talk deep. I want to talk about fighting. You loved it that much? Yeah. What made you? I loved it. I loved it. Why was it such a magnet for you? Do you think fighting? I think because when I was young and I watched some of the big time fights, I think it was just the way the crowd rooted for people's name. I wanted them to root my name one day. Yeah. That's cool, huh? Did you feel like, yeah, why did you do like it's interesting? Some people had this feeling they need, they want somebody to see them, right? Or they want to have a say in the world. Like, did you feel like you were missing part of that? Like were you not being seen? No, I just, when the customer told me I'm the greatest fighter since the beginning of life. So that was 12. He told me that at 12. And you believed him? Yes. Because you trusted him? Yes. Wow. That's pretty powerful that it would just be able to, you'd be able to envelop that that much. No. How can you pick a kid, 12 years old, tell him you're the greatest fighter in the world. You're looking at him like he's some old pervert guy trying to do something. You know, I'm really mean, I'm a thief, I'm a crook. I'm some fucking world greatest fighter of all time. So I thought there was some kind of trick. The youth center was trying to pull on me. Oh, yeah, yeah, there's youth centers. So this guy turned out to be the real deal and I turned out to be Mike Guy. I ain't like whatever the fuck people think I am. Yeah. Yeah, so he was the real deal. Do you think if you hadn't had like, because you know, I've heard you talk about being scared as a kid and having like, you know, your mother passed away when you were young. And I'm going to talk about some of that. I'm just saying things that I don't talk about anything. Okay. Those are just some things that I know about you. Right. I don't know you, but those are things that I know about you. May think you know about you figure him out now. Okay. Oh. Oh, all right. Thank you, Mike. Thank you for spending time with us. And with me. Thank you. I didn't think I was going to like you. You're a really good brother. Really? Thanks, bro. I appreciate that. My wife told me don't judge him. Don't judge him. I'm feeling the way I am. I said don't judge him. Don't judge him. She's got a very, you could tell she's a very she has a she's a good soul. Your wife. Yeah, she did. She believes in you. Yeah. Do you think that you, if you'd have been, if you'd have had the things you needed as a child, right? Like the things that every child needs, right? Like the, I don't want that. Stay away from me. Keep that shit away from me. I like, I like to suffer. You like the way it went? I love to suffer. I don't want no good time. Right. Yeah. Oh, you like the discomfort? Oh, yes. I like being, I like being out of me and I'm getting out of my comfort zone. But if you'd have had those, like if you had the stereotypical things that people, I would be a bitch. Would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world? No. Wow. The heavyweight bitch of the world. I know. I'd be wearing slippers during the day probably. I'd be wearing dang slippers during the day. Yeah. My mother would, my mother would baby me wouldn't allow me to fight and all that stuff. God, it wasn't meant for me to have my mother. Did she baby you as a kid? Like what was she like? She was a drunk. She was a prostitute, but she was who she was. You know, my mom, my mom had like an issue when I was a kid. Like she couldn't look at me because. What's wrong with you? God. I know. I know. You know something that we don't know? I don't know. Shit. But something was wrong with her. She like, she just couldn't like something that like when my mom was growing up, like her dad, like, um, would make him would make them like put his food under their tape under the door. He, he would not talk to my mom for like for months at a time. And he would go in and out of their house through the window. Sounds like a mental illness. Yeah. Right. A mental illness. What they call now a mental illness. Right. Right at the time. Yeah. It was just like kind of a reverse drive through. Yeah. I know your dad. I swear. But anyway, I'm just saying like there was just like, so early on I realized I got to take care of myself. Right. Like, and I don't know if that was the truth, but inside of myself I made that decision. Like I probably was a kid for maybe 45 seconds and since then I was an adult. I don't care if I was two months old. Does that make any sense to you? Exactly. You know, my, my, my wife is kind of shamanic and she believes that we asked for our parents. And then when I start believing, I said, if I didn't have the parents I had, I would never be me. I said, she might have something. I never tell her. I'm saying it now. Yeah. She may have something there. I did pick those parents. If I didn't have those parents, I would be fucked up. Yeah. She might be right. Like what's a nice memory that you have with your mom that was like something that you think about that was like kind of like a moment that you kind of cherish? It was one Christmas day and our birthday was on Christmas. Your mother's birthday was on Christmas? I don't know how we got some money. But it was just a festival. Her and her friends, they had food there and they were eating food and we have never had that much food before. And I don't know how they got the money. I know it was something called Duggarish just here, but I'm sure. Skull Duggarish, a little bit of Skull Duggarish? Yeah. I'm sure something they broke the law, but it was just a great moment. And that's how I was accustomed to the pimps, the criminals, the stick up guys, the robbers, all being over my mother's house and stuff like that. We were at the house of crime. I lived in the house of crime. Where did you sleep? Did you have your own room? No, come on home. I slept on the floor in a blanket somewhere. The bed for the Johns? The bed for the Johns. Yeah, exactly. I was everything for the tricks, but yeah, the John, the bed below, we got a bed. I know my brother and sister heard me and they bring back memories to a bed. You slept on each other's backs, one person out of a lay down flat and the other person got to sleep and then you switched. We didn't do that. We had slept on different parts on the floor, but you know, you had to, it's hot. You had the air conditioning, then you turned the big fan. Oh, dude, I remember my mom would only let it be 80 degrees in the house, right? And I'm like, well, that, and at the time, when I was a kid, I didn't know that that's pretty warm, right? And so we would go get the cold water and we would just put it all over the sheet and then we would lay on it like that. Make a little beach, go to Florida. But it was fun. It was fun. This is right. Poverty is just so beautiful sometimes. If you can laugh at it, it's hilarious. Oh, it is. We had some fun. Nothing more funny than poverty. Oh, dude, we. It doesn't matter. It doesn't care how rich or famous you get, it still affects you. Okay. How big you get? Remember this? It comes out. Do you remember this? Yeah, I remember this. Bro, I'll tell you something. That's a little racial, but let's do it because. Go for it. We used to live like people would burn their trash in the ditch, right? And so me and my buddy William, we would get out there and my buddy Larry and we would get all wet and we would run and jump through the smoke in the ditch until we were pretty darker ish, right? And then, bro, we would kind of wait until somebody drove by and yelled the end for it. Yeah. I hate this. Say nigger. Say nigger. You don't say nigger for big. Say nigger. All these people drove by and called us niggers. Wait, hold on. Do you need me to say if you need, I don't want to do something. I can't tell what's going on here to be honest with you. I mean, I'll jump through some. I just need to say one thing, not be ashamed. All right? Yeah. Say I'm a nigger lover. You need me to say? Yeah. Say I'm a nigger lover. Go ahead, man. But does it mean all of them? Kind of a little bit. God, even a rotten one. I don't know. I don't know if people think I should do it or not. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Please, please, please, please. Come on, man. Is that fucking the show up, man? He's fucking the show up, man. You're right, bro. It doesn't even do. Yeah, dude. Shit. Fuck. I just... What can I say, bro? I'm a nigger lover, bro. God is great, brother. God is great. God is great. Now, hold on. Now, who is cheering for this? I love this show. I love this fucking show. Oh, fuck. Are we going to jail or not? Are we okay? Another knockout from Mike. Here comes the podcast. It's because he's got a new podcast. He's trying to get me off the charts. That's good. Mike, people are going to be... He's trying to describe and he's scared to say nigger lover. What the fuck? I don't know if that was going to say nigger lover. Oh. Oh. Man, that nigger lover. That nigger pussy. The motherfucker. I'm sorry. Forgive me, guys. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 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So I'm in the airport one time, right? Jimmy Walker, the actor from good times, right? A great comedian. He's walking in the airport. Somebody starts yelling dynamite at him. The police thought it was like a, uh, they didn't see him. Oh, they had to see a couple, a couple of little bitches yelling dynamite and they just jumped on him. And I like, I didn't, I could have helped and told people what was going on, but I had to, I was in a hurry. You know, how to get to Cincinnati. Yeah, good time. That was a good show. Do Janet Jackson was on there? Yes. Did you ever get to meet Janet? Yes, I have. I did have a chance to meet Janet. And someone said, this is a rumor that I heard that you and Michael Jackson closed down SeaWorld one night and had a party there. Is that true? This is not true at all. It's not true. Don King told me that. He's a liar. I'm joking. He didn't tell me that, but we knew if he did, he'd have lied about it. He tells the truth by accident. Yeah. I was going inside. He tells the truth by accident. Hey, man. Yeah, it is what it is, dude. But no, did you actually get to spend time with Michael Jackson because he's such a, what was he like as a person? I splendid, beautiful person. He'd die and all that stuff. He was a beautiful, calm, humble person. And I didn't like him for a long time because my friend had called me and said, hey, Mike, I'm going to do this one. Mike's producers. He said, hey, man, I'm over Mike's house. And once he said, no, fuck that, man. He disrespected me. He did that. No, man, fuck that, man. Jackson said all that? I said that. Oh, okay. And then they said, and then my friend went like this. He said, really? He asked for me to call you. I said, I'll be right there. I was right there. What was he like? Was he just like a very shy, very humble. He was at the end of his, no, he was dealing with that bad stuff, that child stuff. He was dealing with that. He was really, and only with four people at the house, no friends. So, and it was just him. I got to know him. Ask about two parts. But I'm doing fine. I love it, man. You're beautiful. You're beautiful, man. You're beautiful. I'm doing all right. I feel lucky to be here with you today, man. Beautiful. I was always, did he, do you think he was involved in that kind of stuff? And you got to know him? Would you ever feel that about him or no? I had a different opinion about him. I forgot to know him. Got it. Totally different opinion. Dude, I've read somewhere. Actually, I didn't read it. I'm lying to you. One of my friends told me that, like he had some girls with him, and you was like inquiring, or then he's your girlfriends. And he said, get your own bitches to you. No, he did. No, I'm not, I'm saying that. I'm gonna tell you what happened. Please do. I went to a Michael Jackson concert with dog. He said, come, come, come, come and come and meet my babies. And he said, I see Michael. So he come, I want to see. So we walk into the shows, the last song. We walk into the arena. We walk down the middle of the aisle. He goes like this, the dog came, the dog came, put his hand up. I go like this, and he puts his hand down. And I say to myself, I'm no Michael Jackson. He says, no, he don't know. He's the big, he's performing. He can't be thinking about me. Of course not me. So I go in the back, and I'm in the back. His whole staff is just loving me. Loving the band guy gave me. Everybody's all over me. Mike's at the corner, chilling. Mike just went to the door. I guess he's waiting for a car. He's gonna jump in the car. And everybody's all over me. I think, let me go over there and say hi to Mike, you know, because I want to go see it with a good night. I go over there, and before I say anything, he goes, where did I know you from? This is the biggest moment in my life. I just be Mike's and spring. The whole world's talking about nothing but me. And he looks at me and he goes, where did I know you from? I said, you were familiar. Where did I know you from? And I said, no, where Mr. Jackson. I was just a fan. I said, you motherfucker. I said, that was a good one. I said, you motherfucker. I hate him ever since. I hated him ever since. My friend there called me to come over to the house and said Mike called you. I was in eight and I'm now. Wow. I said, he said that. I'm just a little kid. He said that to me. You think he was joking? Oh, he was dead serious. He was dead serious. You think he was very competitive? He was too competitive. He was not friendly with nobody. Yeah. Especially not in the music business if you don't bend the knee. You had to bend the knee for Mike. Well, yeah. He wasn't friendly even with black folks. He freaking ended up white. You got to have an issue. But listen, anybody's going that route now. I've seen a bunch of athletes and singers go that route. Yeah. The black turn white route. Yup. Hey, red rover, red rover. Come on, you know. Send them over, bro. Passing is passing. Yeah. Yeah. What if like, and some of this is just like lore stuff. What about Whitney Houston? Did you ever get to meet her? I knew Whitney very well. No way. Yeah. Very well. She can't have visited me in prison. I was in prison. She can't have visited me. She did? You're one of my good friends. And when was that when you were in prison in New York? I don't know what the fuck I'm up in in the Annapolis. It's cold. I was just checking to see if you remember where you were in prison at. Yeah. I have a lot of, listen, I had a lot of really interesting visitors. A lot of really interesting people. Whitney came to visit you. Did she sing for you or anything like that? Or did she just come and spend time? No, she just came in. She brought her family. Her and her family came and hung out with me. Who else came to visit you? I don't know quite a few people. Yes, names and names or something. I don't know. Michael Landon. He was dead, man. Was he dead? He was dead, man. I don't see how it's cancer-making. So listen. Patrick Swayze. He was dead too, I think. What? Why all the white people die and hear stories, I'm starting to notice this. Hey, Florence Henderson came. No way. He came, yes. But listen to this. She came to visit me, but I'm locked in the hole. I had to fight with one of the guards. So I'm not going to come out. If you come out the hole, you got to come out chains. I said, I'm not going to come out. I said, actually, forgive me. I didn't want to do that. Because you didn't want her to see you like that? I didn't want to see me in shackles and my feet. It looks crazy. Yeah. When they put you into the hole, so I know it was like 23 hours of darkness, right? And then one hour of light? Or vice versa the other way? No, they just leave the lights on all night. Oh, the lights on all night? Lights on all night. Oh, that's good. I mean, at least in case you get up or whatever. I'll give you a fucking headache. Oh, yeah. 24 hours a day for like what? 10 weeks. Yeah. What starts to happen to somebody in there? Like, is it anything helpful? Yeah. The peace of solitude is healthy. Very healthy, the solitude. And what's the most of us, believe it or not, not able to be by ourselves for a long period of time. You know, we haven't developed a relationship with ourselves. We adore ourselves. We can't stop up being up and stop being in our own presence. And I guess that's the way to be constant happiness and love. Even though, even though we go to the batch, it makes that beautiful too. Yeah, I think, um, I don't know, in my life, like, I feel like in my life, my whole life I was waiting for somebody to show up, right? I don't even really exactly know who it was. But then like recently I'm realizing that I think I'm just waiting for me to show up. You know, I don't have any sense to you. I don't want to have some of this, but you have to, you know, I mean, that's your narrative. How does that guy appear? How do you make that guy appear? Right. The first thing that I'm learning for myself, and some of this is pretty recent, is just like having some integrity. Like, you know, if I say, I'm like, because if I say I'm going to do something and I don't, I hear myself do that, right? And so after a while, I don't even believe myself. I think after a while I quit even listening to myself. Because it's like, well, how many times am I going to lead myself on, you know? I don't know if that's exactly true, but I think that's the best answer I have for that. It's always the higher power. It's always the higher power. I'm from the world that you come from as well, you know, the recovery world. And it's a battle. Some guys served for 20 years all of a sudden, boom, they typically go to drugs and kill themselves. It's a constant battle. No one's ever went up to the end of the day, to this over and with that, then you won. If you ever do any drugs and you beat the system that was killing you, you go die, boom. But sometimes these guys stop using drugs for 30 years and go back. Yeah. You know what I mean? You just can't believe it. So you're never safe. Yeah, you're never safe. Yeah, nobody's going to get out of here alive. I learned that every year. It kind of makes it exciting, doesn't it? It's kind of funny. You should get out of here alive. As you get older, one of the things that gets a little bit exciting is dying because it's a new adventure. I don't listen. Does that make sense? That makes too much sense. I find death is another part of life we just never experienced yet. You know, life is good. How death could be bad, be honest. If God loves us, how could death really be bad? If we look at God the way we believe him to be, how could death be bad if he created it? If we didn't think it was final, then how would we behave in this time that we're here? Well listen, God prepares us. The universe prepares us to death. You know, live by little. We lose our friends. We lose people we care about. We lose our hair. We lose our teeth. We lose our life. Isn't that what happens? Spontaneous. You know, it's meant to be. Yeah, we lose our ability to be around black people safely because I've said the N word in here. Yeah. You know what I mean? Black people love you. You're a nigga. Love you. You're not a nigga. That's a good point, bro. Thanks for looking out for me. I hope they're not able to cancel you in this young age. See, we talked about niggas. Niggas always got people careful. It never fails. A nigga will get you. The word nigga. The word. Oh, it's great to see some equality at last. Are you sometimes amazed like when you look at your life, how much grace God has had in your life? I realize that if you don't believe in God, look at me. Because I should not be right here talking to you. No, you probably did not, man. Listen, I really, when I met my 30, I said, yes, God did a really dirty trick. He allowed me to live to be 60. God damn. If I knew I was going to be 60, I would play the game. Yes, sir. No, man. Yes, sir. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. I went that route instead. Yeah, you too. Imagine 60 years of, yes, sir. How you doing, man? Oh, I'd walk right up to heaven like this, bro. I'd walk right into heaven, man. Sit at my table. Yeah, if I'd have been. Yeah, I think there's something about like when you feel like you're doing everything yourself. Like, did you feel like that as a kid? Like everything. I'll figure this out. I'll handle it. Like, did you have that like chip on your shoulder? Do you feel like? I had my mentor. When I had my mentor, he taught me not to ever say anything negative about myself. Really? When they say beautiful things about myself. Customers taught you that? Yes. And what did he tell you exactly? Always say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself because my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not. Hmm. That's pretty, isn't it wild? How there's something? No, I learned that at 12 years old. I had to learn that at 12 to be the champion at 20. Hmm. You know, if I learned it at 15, 16, hey, it probably wouldn't have worked out there. I've been chapter 22 probably. Yeah. Everything worked out for the right reason. What was one of the hardest walks to the ring you ever had to make? All the walks are the same, pretty much. You know, it becomes a routine. Was there one that like you didn't want it or things had changed or you were like, I don't know, I've never been a fighter. I always wanted it because every time I got in the ring, when I lost my life changed and a good perspective for my family. Right, you got, you were providing for your family for sure. That's all I know how to do. When did you become an adult? Excuse me? Well, I have a late life. I had a real late life. I can't even tell you, man. I was probably who, what, 45 or something? Oh, dude, I freaking wet the bed all I was 27. That's mental illness. Mental illness. Yeah. Yeah, it is. But they don't say that. They just call you Mr. Drippy Drop or whatever. No, they don't call you Mr. Fielder. Pissy. Pissy Cool. Pissy Cool, blabla. They call you little yellow boy. Yellow boy. But yeah, what do you think made you start to turn like finally like I have to, I got to grow up or something, something happened. I'm becoming an adult. Because some guys took my pigeons and bullied me. And that was the first time I fought back and it was like love at first fight. I never stopped fighting ever since. Some guys, they took it and they put with my birds head off. What? He was a dirty rotten kind of guy back there. You remember him? Yeah. Who was he? Gary Flowers. Fuck him. Love for you, this man. How could he do it? He's a young kid back there rotten guy being a bully. I was a little fat kid that bullied me all the time. Yeah, but even if I saw a kid that was kind of like had some glandular issues or whatever, I'm not going to break a bird's neck. Yeah, it's just that's all about humiliating people. Oh, it's like a humiliation thing. Right, I'm going to make you feel this way. Oh, did you ever get him back? Oh, I beat the dog shit out of him. Yeah. I'm not going to let him go. And that's the best thing I ever did. Because every day I fought, I went to the fight three times a day. I can't stop fighting. I loved it so much. And were you having trouble finding people to fight? Oh, no, they have to bring people for me to fight for money. Oh, really? Yeah. And so who would get the money? The guy would say, listen, if you win, you get this much. If you lose, you get this much. Hmm, so no matter what you made for money. You made some money. What's the first thing you kind of bought when you got a little money? I don't know, some weed and some candy. Yeah, weed and candy, bro. That's what I'm talking about, bro. I haven't got much. I haven't got much. He's ready for the munchies and now I'm leaving. Do you ever eat now and leave this? Dude, yeah, but they make your teeth stick together. I know, but it's good when you're high. Yeah, you're right. You're high, you don't mind. You know, you had to cut your teeth out within the gunk. You ever did that before? Teeth is out in the now. Oh, the shape of your teeth are in them? Yeah, that shit was cool, bro. I like that shit, man. I really like that, man. You ever had some black pussy? What is going on? I'm just asking guys, between me and them, please don't respond. I mean, I've had, yeah, I mean, during the holidays one time I had a little. That's true. I'm not talking about no Jewish girl with a great tan. I'm in a black girl. Oh, I'm talking about some real, yeah, some of that frickin, yeah. I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to think, I guess I had some, I had, I've had a little. I've had a little, I have had, Mike. I have, actually. And then if you put halfway in, you put it all the way in. What is that little? You put it in the little, or you put it in the rock. Or it's a little when you put it in. It doesn't go in a lot. Like, more the hokey pokey. Okay. You go in, she comes out. But I've had a little, man. I've had a little and I, yeah, I would, I would, I would get some more. I would, yeah, I'd get some more sometime. You know, what's the black woman you dream about fucking though? What's the body shape? Name somebody's body shape. Well, some black women, you fuck them and they fuck back kinda, you know. They got that, that vagina kind of, it'll fuck you back, you know. It's almost like when you, the last hundred years ago that I fucked the white girl, she did that too, she laid you in the same thing. But I almost tried to, I was flirting with this black lady that worked at the airport for a while, but they said move along eventually. Did you get ticked, did you get fly, did you get free flights? No, I didn't get free flights, but I ain't mess with it. I ain't gonna date no girl at the airport and I'm like getting free flights, man. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I don't know. Look, man, maybe you'll set me up with a good gal that you know. I don't know any good girls. I know people, I know people good girls, I give a good time. Did you ever have like a, cause Hollywood people steal people's spouse or girlfriend's boyfriends. Did you ever have somebody steal a girlfriend of yours here? I'm sure they did, but I just don't know about it. You didn't? Yeah. I feel bad actually, cause I was saying that question, but I knew another question I was gonna ask. Asked it then. Somebody said that Brad Pitt stole a girlfriend of yours one time. No, that's an interesting story, yeah. All right. No, it didn't steal her from me, but my wife was going through the books, but we were still fucking, right? Okay. We were always fucking every night. We were still fucking. Then we'd fight in the paper. Then we'd fucking like, but one day I went over the house to fuck her. She wasn't on the right. And then driving up the road with the BMW that I bought her and she had some, I thought it was the one of her friends from head of the class, but it wasn't one of them. There was some nigga, Brad Pitt trying to get some head. Uh-uh. Yeah. That honky was with her? Yeah. Like what the fuck? Damn. Hey, Brad, that honky was trying to slide. The dirty dog. I love you. The fact that we got to call Brad Pitt a honky is hilarious. He's a beautiful brother. But you called him in the driveway? Yeah, he was beautiful. I was just, I think that, um... Did you punk him a little? No. I guess I'll, yeah, he's Brad Pitt. At least if you're, if you're, if your girl's going to be with somebody, it's God, if it's Brad Pitt, that's, you, that's okay. I, I, I guess you're Brad Pitt. I was like, but he wasn't Brad Pitt yet. Oh, he wasn't Brad Pitt yet? No, I didn't know what the fuck he was. He was just Brad? Yeah. And she was driving him, hitting that with a car. Oh, that's some Brad shit. No. Brad never got a car, bro. Name seven Brads that have cars, bro. None of them bastards. Yeah. Oh. Have you been good at being in love, you think, over your life? I've gotten so much trouble being in love in my life. Love is, um, love is so many entities, you know what I mean? Love has been, you've gotten in so much trouble. No, I don't have trouble in love. I have trouble with me. Love has nothing to do with it. Love has trouble with you? 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I know the truth that I'm never big I don't never That's just a some form of imagination really being some big star I know who I am I know What I've accomplished in life the good the bad you know but there's not many people you know Listen I walk with poverty and I sit with presence you know I've just just it's not too many things I haven't done in my life you know so I just um take my life day by day I don't make too many plans You know I I met your wife now Kiki Yeah, very interesting person I'm gonna say she's a beautiful nice lady if you can say she's very interesting person she is very interesting I'm sure I don't know her well. She seems very uh, she has very kind eyes And she seems like she really cares about you So those are things that I noticed and you guys have some beautiful children I saw some one of them I think is here maybe two to Michael Miguel But but Miguel Miguel Lo siento And in Milan and Milan yeah Kiki seems to just have like uh She wants to make sure that you're okay, right? Is there like or what's what's like what's it like now with with this relationship? What's this marriage like? I don't know that's too perfect. We need a little bullshit in that other thing Yeah, we we're cool. We have a great connection. You know Um, we'd be bullshit every now and then what's something you really love about her I just love her being a mother. She's an awesome mother awesome wife and the all-around beautiful person I really hit the jackpot with this monkey. She's a good person Where did you meet uh, kiki? I knew it since she was like 1918. Yeah Is she like a strong woman in the household like what's that kind of energy like? Like does she make you get up early or anything? You know, that's the whole thing. I love the move. What's that with my wife? I don't have to move Yeah, yeah, I love the move. She takes care of me everything I got the real wife that you know cooked for me bring my food So I've played if I'm tired she'll feed me. I got it going. Oh, you got a queen, huh? That's nice Um, then she's also she's also my my pet and she's also my tiger too. She's my defender So she has that in her too. Hmm No, you got to have somebody that has that. Oh you have to There's nobody has the more fury than a woman and that's just in general There's nobody that fights more fearful than a woman Oh, dude, they can make a child if you went on a later on her back for nine months. We couldn't make shit. No No, they could listen they they could make they could they could bleed nine months And leave me a little cut on hand we get affection to die You know women are special breed. Yeah. Well, they're wizards are damn wizards. I'll say that but they are also a great breed No, that's the big that's the biggest gift God could ever give us is a woman. Yeah His most precious gift God could ever give us is a woman Yeah, that's the truth I agree I agree man Hey, this is our show Yeah, you heard the man I think uh, like fathering and fame would seem like it's really hard for me It's middle. How about your life? I don't have any children yet. I'll feel god bless you man. What? God bless you because this doesn't work well with children Well, I don't I don't want things that I've said or done to influence my children's life for people to look at them a certain way Or have certain expectations out of them But you have to fear that that much but your life has been at it at an insane amount of that like What was that? Did it make it hard for you? Like what was it like fathering and having your life like in the fame? I don't know. My kids have a great life And if they ever started complaining they should think about I should have had my father then they would have a right to complain Yeah, they do not have a right to complain my kids go to the best school the work or offer They had the best part of and they have the best opportunities the work offer is up to them to take advantage of it Where was your father from? North Carolina. Oh, dude. No way. I'm going to freaking Wilmington this weekend Charlotte even Charlotte Charlotte's okay. I don't I don't I'm fine. I know it's been me any time. I'm fine with it I will tell you this story So one time I was in Charlotte, right and I hadn't been there before my friend and I'm we're sitting on a patio We were just getting something to eat and I saw somebody pushing a baby carriage there, right? And I thought and they were wearing like a couple of different like Like shawls or like rugs almost like a bunch of like Tapestries and stuff over them and over the carriage and I thought it was uh, uh Like a homeless guy like almost like a french homeless guy, right because he's french Well, just he was a very color. It looked like French and north Carolina Well, just because of the the the the elegance of the shawls and stuff. They seem very French is very french is and uh It was freaking cam newton pushing his newborn down the street. Are you serious? I swear that is the true story And that's the truth that I It was him dude. I'm keep looking. I'm like, damn that got the most beautiful elegant homeless around here. They really vibing And I'm like, I saw if you were run up and get photos and was cam new and he just had a newborn child And he was taking it for a little little saffron stroll out there by the uh McCormick and schmicks out there You have anybody you're gonna love with? Do you have anybody i'm in love with? Yeah, uh I mean Nobody off the top of my head. You're not one of the woman right now. No, I'm not with a woman right now No, you're not kicking with no one right now. I mean, I'm you know what I'm saying I'm saying that. Yeah, I'm 46 dude. I'm an adult you got to fucking hear You got that fucking here as long as you got that here you got the you got the advantage Once I had Pussy advantage right there If you'd had here you think you'd have been though you think you'd have been even at more handsome If I had here, I wouldn't be mad. I'd be in lawsuits and all that shit You can't lawsuits That's crazy, bro That's the hair is power. That's why they did that about saffron cutting because really hair is power Well, that's what even when they used to scout people and stuff and take their hair They was taking the you know, they were taking that something that's why I grew my hair a lot people think it's Power that's why they always try to cut your hair boy. You know the animal cut your hair cut your hair Keep your fucking hair. Yeah, bitch. I want to be an animal. Yeah, keep your fucking hair Because once you lose your hair you go always the sky was at it back some guys I was in the way No, wasn't in the way mother fuck you wish you had your hair back It was the only thing I was in the way I was in the way you being a little bitch That's the only thing I've run, huh? I'm gonna let that hair grow. Don't have much to grow. Let it grow. Let the people say oh, you're an animal You can't get a job. You can get a job a lot of here now. Yeah, you can get a job at quick guitar You can get a job at the mechanics assistant anything anything That makes more money than the average person by far Yeah, bro, you could just brush your hair online and dudes will pay to watch you do it Yeah, listen that online thing It's either the best thing a pedophile could ever dream of Or else it's the biggest biggest hit in the world one or the other It's the worst bro duty you've seen times changing bro saying But like how bad like things are not bad, but things just gotten so much different. It's gotten away from the moment everything became sexual Really, you know why everybody's worried about who's sleeping with who everybody's worrying about who genders who And who looks like this and it's all about that now It's yes, uh, there used to be so much more I think I don't know when you could have recorded everything the moment was so great But because then also if I needed to know a story the only way I could get it was from you Or from somebody that told it well Yes, and so that person had like I don't know they had a ambiance about it There might be a dude in town only all he did was tell one good story or no That's happened since the beginning of life. Yeah, and now it's suddenly different. Yeah, and now we're at people out here losing their minds and shit Killing themselves hurt themselves Mike Dude, nobody killed themselves when I was a kid. Nobody was killing themselves if you were angry or depressed You just listened to heavy metal and walked around town Remember that? Yes A man, that's you know, it's just it's interesting that people are doing that now There we're sick though. There's nothing poisoning us. Do you agree with that 100%? I know the government know what it is. Yeah, I ain't telling You know because death is profitable You know people cash in on your insurance and all that shit Death is very profitable even at the morgue dude. My buddy freaking died They put they put new shoes on him charges family 300 bucks. I'm like bitch. He's wearing them for 50 minutes Just get a rental and they got a whole fresh pair That's crazy, man, but I agree. There's something the government knows man So now people are gonna have to rise up something's gonna have to happen Do you believe that people have that in us still or do you believe I believe this? I believe there's some people even their elite people they have Money and have the resources to live longer healthier You know Imagine being 90 and living healthy you can still run you can still fuck you can still do things with family John Paul server exactly no serious. Yeah, I feel you You think that's possible for some people right now and they're hugging now. Absolutely right. Absolutely To the bullshit values now all this Madness and all this shit nigga. They can't you know, it's just crazy. Yeah feel young. That's all that's why I be gonna fight And again do next week. I feel good Next thing they go, I give you something kind of guy now that then you sniffing makes you smarter What is it? I don't know what did no listen You're laughing now, but when don't laugh when it comes out you can say Mike was talking about that You'll be hitting that shit in that. Yeah. I don't know if you get too smart. You might have a fucking brain for that Annual rhythm with some I don't want to there's a lot of shit. I don't want to know Dude the smarter I get I feel like the more I heard No, but listen, um, they got stuff check this out Imagine if somebody said I have something in this needle that'll make you laugh 30 more years strong. I'll make your dick. They're half 24 hours Or something like that. That's what people are working at. They whatever they want. Whatever our biggest, um Kingsaw right it'll be sex to be alcohol. They give you a shot. There's no more alcohol in your life No more drugs in your life. It's all about the it's gonna be all about the needles and pills. Oh The needles and pills did you were you ever a needle user or not? Well, I use a lot of needles just a half Yeah, I use a lot of needles because that's a different barrier when you go into drug use like I've used a lot of stuff I never used no needles. I've used like steroids, but I never used uh Like in you know shooting up like, uh, whatever it's called Hair on Hair one. Yeah. Yeah, I never used it. Uh now I wish I would have smoked crack. I will say that Who stayed with me crack? Really? You don't normally come back Doesn't really want you to go crack. You don't come back What was it? Did you ever get to smoke it? I did once and let's oh no, so this is gonna be fucking crazy. I gotta tell you this Please do so one day. Um, and I do my monthly checkup. I'm still getting high I'm gonna get my checkup with my probation officer And he gets my probation officer He gets my test of blood test. I'm even thinking and he comes back. I come back. He said, um They I like to be just test you for um crack, but I could tell uh, what would he what they call them? Um, what do you call a crack at? Oh Crack a what? Tweaker he tweaker. He said yeah, but I got I got I had I had it in me We see I know a tweaker. You're not a tweaker. That's the fourth test I said fuck He knew about sight. Yeah, he said I could tell a tweaker. You know, you're not tweaker because it was by accident I didn't know it was the crack. Oh, it was just in there. Yeah. I took it without the guy telling me I didn't know and the cop said that we said yeah, you got a fourth test But I could tell a tweaker. You're not a tweaker. Amen. That's glad. Thank you for telling me that word. Thank you tweaker god That's good stuff. I said fuck. I gave me that shit That's the thing. You don't know what you would get exactly. I didn't know if I was sent to and I'll be dead as a motherfucker You got out before fainting all thank god My wife would tell you right it came out of the news that Mike died From a from a drug overdose at his party and my wife thought I was dead was on the news And another thing I come in the house a couple hours later My wife my wife screamed at me cursed at me all Fuck I'm a high I just left the house and kept running. It was a false story Yeah, it was a news. So my wife told me it hit me. I got it. It's kind of the house. I thought I got left Oh, she was pissed even if he was alive she was pissed. I was alive Her mother was pissed too I don't know why they're crying everything. They think I'm dead. They checking more than this shit And for the hospitals and uh, they I walked through the door high. I'm I'm I'm coped up high and drunk I just left the house fuck this These motherfuckers they can't they don't yeah, they don't love me Dude, yeah, I did you ever have those days where you stayed up multiple days from doing cocaine or not? Yeah So listen, I'm I'm I'm gonna tell this bullshit story So I can't get any sleep. I'm calling the person. I know it's hurt like a motherfucker Right. It's my nothing. I'm And so I'm calling the person and I'm saying my nose is hurt. I'm fucking I can't sleep enough for four days My nose is hurt. I got scared for my nose. She said, you know, sir. She's got the coke. I said, yeah, he said hit it I said, wow, that's for better I never knew I had to go for all the while she took a hit And numbed it up because it got um, it was a numb anymore to start bleeding. I saw it I had to take another hit to numb it up Oh That was nice of the worst, huh? Oh man Uh the worst, bro Did you ever have to sneak into a hospital or did you have a private doctor because how yeah, um, yeah, this is true Oh god, listen, I go to my doctor, right? Your doctor hold on let's let's say let's get a ride of applause for mike's doctor, bro I go to my doctor and I go right there. I said, this is i'm a I'm a latest spill of my doctor and I'm a quick cocaine right now. And he's checking me, right giving me You know checking out and it's how you doing. I see you doc. You know, I'm feeling bad. I need to quit And he said what if I need to quit coke? He said really? He's taking him out later. I said, yeah, you have someone else. Yeah I said fuck This is on my two-sign plates and I'm like fuck I'm trying to get help. I'm I'm talking to the doctor, but I got a problem. Do you have someone, you know Is it gonna have something that took it? He's Was that blue cross blue shield? No, was that No, I go to I go to rehab now. Right. They put me in rehab And this is what I do the guy that the rehab staff right comes up here and he tells me all the rules And then I try to be a good guy give him my coke the last bit of coke He said, I'm gonna have to do a coke before I can you know when I'm in for you go rehab you get really hot Yeah, so I gave him the coke. I really wanted to get so I gave him the coke my last coke I said yeah, I got some coke. Oh, yeah, some then he went and then they said I saw him. He's an active funny I said, I said this is the event I took my coat Because I was some good coke I wanted I wanted to be a good person and give it up the motherfucker took my coke So I said hey man, you took my fucking coat you are start letting me have girls come over and say let me have girls Come over at the rehab. Yeah My right hand on my children's life man. Oh, you listen. I can't make shit like this The rehab guy said, oh, you got coke and I think that I give us no I don't want to get high on him and try to look clean. Let me go away from him. He comes back after weird Yeah, I know this motherfucker didn't take my coat I don't got mad because I said it kept that shit there Types shit, man. I got so fucking mad dude. I'll tell you this freaking story So one time my friend we're getting out of a uber He dropped some coke right and I didn't know he did coat and I didn't know I did coat, right? I'm in there So I picked his coke up. I'd never seen it before I just saw this little bag in it I've registered pretty quick. This is probably cocaine, right? And so we go inside we're staying at my buddy Kevin's house Um, we go inside and he starts saying hey, will you help me look for something? But he won't he won't tell me what it is Because he doesn't want me knowing that he didn't want to give me that Yeah, that's what it is, bro So I keep sneaking off and doing the coat because we're looking really hard, right? Bro after like two hours he goes to sleep. I'm still looking for the shit and doing it, bro And I forgot what I was even looking for but I kept looking bro because that's who I am. I'm committed I'm not my fucker that will ride with you Mike. I gotta tell you this story about cocaine, okay? Okay. I'm in First I'm in Jamaica right And I leave Jamaica hanging out with Jamaica hanging out there and I go to Cuba for you know, it's very close Hour half an hour. Did you get to meet Fidel and Cuba or not? No, interesting. I'll check this out. So I make Cuba, right? I'm hanging out and so God me. Hey, you're my Tyson, right? Yeah, yeah. Hey, wait. Hey, what's wrong? Is everything okay? So yeah, it's been great. Yeah, I've lost somebody. Yeah, you need a girl This is a possibility. Yes You're fucking genius Listen, but you got he takes me around this it's nothing but bricks and rocks abandoned This is like a bomb at the bus is disgusting And I'm like, I'm thinking this guy's setting me up to give mugged or something here, right? And all of a sudden this beautiful girl she had raggedy clothes She comes out of this fucking the crap Elaborated bill that looks like a hip hop bomb. Nobody lives in there. This is all abandoned. She and she comes out. I said, what the fuck? Wow. Yeah, but this is what I'm talking about. Castro. You know, um, the natives there were unable to live They can't go in the hotels there the people that live in the residence Because they don't want to keep talking to people that are visiting. I don't know, but they're not allowed to go in the hotel The castle allowed me to take people to my hotel. They let me do whatever I wanted to do a while Yeah, it was really nice. I had I thought I think I had a fight there. I do bottles. I didn't get arrested or nothing You're telling people leave me alone. Let me do what I want. Damn Anybody else who's been throwing bottles and stuff from Cuba. They really got fucked up. They'd have been They've been the hospital. Then there's been like firmery Then there was been jail What made you want to go to Russia because that was kind of like, uh Like why you know i'm saying like that. I don't even know first of all, did they even at the time have Black people in Russia. Yes Did they really because they never put them on like the websites or anything Like no, they came to Russia around 1909 black people did yeah You know, um And they've been I met black u kreative. I met black russian. It was a really amazing state Wow, yeah, because you probably wouldn't even think that would have happened right? No till they start talking. Yeah Wow Dude, that's cool. That's one cool thing about traveling sometimes, bro This is a true thing. I see somebody that looks like you and their Their mother might be black and then father might be white or something African or something Well, you just realized that like, oh, there's so many people out there Like when I was in my little town, I thought heaven was only going to be people in our town, right? Listen, let me tell you something about russian people and ukrainian people, right? Listen, no, yes, um I'm up there, right? And so we got some call girls supposedly call girls, right some call girls. Yes. Yeah, they're excuse their ex quits They call them. Yeah And listen, I'm saying to myself. I want to talk to my friend and um, you can stop it She talks you can stop it. She calls them that I want to talk to a friend that's staying in China she talks to the she they see the common the common Call girl was speaking around seven languages. Yeah A call girl in america can't even speak english. Yeah Can't speak a home language Call girl speaks seven languages. I'm trying to think how can I get this girl from here to america? This girl be a fortune 500 company. Yeah, I'm telling you She speaks eight languages and stuff into the best schools and she's a call girl Dang I'm like, whoa And women here they barely will even learn even one language or even one and a half languages. They're not even gonna learn how to cook Yeah They don't know how to cook dude. Some women can barely use it even emojis I don't know how to use it either. Yeah, but still you shouldn't have to dude You're mike tyson man. No, I'm gonna say women here have it made they have women here have it made me the other country You can't have a job. You can't have a say of nothing. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess I don't realize how bad like women have it Pretty bad in Japan. You see mostly women are damn friendly in japan because they killed their husband Uh-huh majority of the media that he's can't stand the abuse anymore. So oh Damn Japan can you imagine? Because they're so peaceful a lot of times we had a jeffson jeffson ease substitute teacher And He didn't even say anything to us because he didn't want to bother us. That's how nice he was We didn't learn anything candy was How scared he was well, we didn't learn anything for four days because he he was he was he didn't even want to bother us um You fought in japan against it was it who was it? I had two fights in japan for this white Boss douglas and someone else Tony tops buster douglas. That's when you won the championship. I lost the championship Oh, damn. Sorry. No, please. I'm happy. I got 40 million dollars. You got 40 million dollars 35. Yeah, wow Same shit though. Yeah, sorry, bro. I'm rounded even Dude, that's so wild, bro But but before that fight you weren't did you were you training as hard or were you just like living their life? I was living a life, but um, he fought a great fight. Yeah, I think that was he fought a great fight Dude, I remember we were like I was living in charleston, south carolina at the time and Somebody had bought the fight with like a projector and they projected on the side of like a building and everybody came downtown and watched it Dude, it was awesome, bro It was a good time, man It was like uh when you fought it was like it brought everybody it was like watching the challenger blow up everybody showed up You know the challenge is this well Remember that a but watch the whole toes in the whole day watch it over and over you That's like those guys that wouldn't water with those supplement and combust with an inside post. Yeah He took his son down But they went down there in a fucking mac nugget. You know that's just gonna happen, dude Bro, it said cutlass on the side of it was a delta 88. I'm like you got in that bitch They just like I don't want it. I shouldn't say that they're good. They got come they got smashed They couldn't they didn't even feel it Whoo, didn't feel it. That's tight boy Because I hate even getting in a small shirt you ever put a small shirt on and you can't even get out of it I like being a small jigger. I'm fucking If you might ties it, Logan. Yeah Dude, I went to Hulk funeral, man. Did you really? Yeah, tell me about that. It was pretty special, man like well, there was a lot of things it was like look at that right outside of Tampa right outside of Tampa and um Well, one thing that was interesting Jim McMahon was there, but nobody knew he was there and then at one point he came out uh like Then took man. Yeah, you ever met Jim McMahon? That's his father No, Jim McMahon was a quarterback for the Chicago Bears. Remember him? Oh, he's badass. Yeah, he was funny glasses Yeah, he had that mullet dude. He showed me his frickin bottle one time and In uh palm springs at a casino for no reason No, it was a reason the reason He figured you out He figured you out. He does like a quarterback. He's a great quarterback great perception The quarterback percept you Well, look at this receiver I brought that crazy dude, but anyway, you're right. Keep that hold Tell me about him showing you that bottle. Tell me about that. How does that appear? What what caused it? Well, nobody was expecting it. It was just like a regular night and um, have you ever hung out with him before? I never met him before and he was drinking beers and he kept he was saving all the cans I think he was like he's like a um What's it called when you care about the nature when you're like, um asshole asshole He was the one don't be saying that the legal have a law through it. You saw his asshole I saw it. It was dark. I mean but jimmy man. You're welcome to come on and have a lawsuit to this man. So your asshole what Dude, why are you? You said you saw the asshole. He may think differently He may say that was a cheek. That wasn't an asshole Mike is working and now you working for an attorney's office. I know It's not Was it a cheek or an asshole? I don't know man Damn you tricked me. I just said I don't know What I knew it was a little while ago. You're right. I'm not sure it was shadowy out But I do remember we were by the pool and it was nighttime. But anyway, yes So I'm open up some cheeks right for his cheeks, right? But everything in my Just like mind. I guess thought there was an asshole there. What did he say come get it guys? No Come on guys No, he wasn't saying anything like that. He was telling a joke about a His ex-girlfriend or something and then he said uh, and then he said the punchline. I don't remember it I mean he just kind of showed his Showed his blood hole at the end. So running back. He said come run up into this. Do the running back for his shelf Uh, who was the running back at the time? It wasn't Peyton. Was it no sayers? No sayers was early too old Was it Wow, it wasn't really an 85 bears was Peyton When I've been here big take it water. Come on. Come on, Walter Get over here. Walter. You're a vass old. I didn't mean to see it But yeah, anyway, let's move on but here's what I'm gonna say is so Vince McMahon comes out there Nobody knew he was at the funeral and it was wild because they had guys like that beef 200 Yeah, well, I think over the years they'd had a lot of issues, right? But a lot of my favorite wrestlers were there and they were kind of broken down, you know somewhere in wheelchairs and some were like Some were some people had urns of other like Of guys who had passed on they had their ashes. Just they brought them But Vince McMahon got up and he did like he played hulk's music and he did all like a lot of his like things, you know and then he made like a speech and then he disappeared but uh But it was it was everything it was like You know, he was so much of my childhood He was like one of the first person that I ever saw like in our neighborhood Like a lot of people didn't have anything but when wrestling came on it felt like you had something I don't know why right? It's like a soap opera for kids. Yeah, you know, we know the story They double team and they cut them up because you see they jump do them over the road Fucking yeah Yeah, all of that but but anyway, so that was like our hero like a soap opera We knew it was a storyline but we as kids we thought it I think you believe it's so real 100% It was so good. So that was like one one of that was one of our heroes So to go was just yeah, I don't know it was pretty special and his son like gave a speech It was nice, man It was just but he didn't feel like he passed away because he was he's so much larger than I Yep, and I'll tell you this when when I met you downstairs and I got to shake your hand I was like, that's the That's the strongest person I've ever like could we give us like a mini hook? I said that's I walked out I said there's the strongest person I've ever given a mini hug to The second strongest was Hulk Hogan. Really? Yep. Hulk was massive. Man. He was a big star He's just such a big star. You could never imagine how big he was Who was like a hero like that like in them in um Bruno San Martino Bruno San Martino That's my hero my god He could be that he's champion for 12 years. Yeah, he could be to everybody He was champion. Listen. I was seven Until I was like what seven To like 20 almost yeah, he was a legend man. Yeah, I got to interview one of the von erics one time Kevin von eric I don't you remember they died before yeah. Oh, I'm gonna listen man. I'm my story. Don't play with me now Ask me some questions um I have read actually that you like studied a lot of like uh Like you really enjoy like philosophy like uh toll story um Alexander the great um Who are some like famous warriors that you admire the most kind of in history? Oh all of them like he leaves out a Xander Honorable, there was just else said there was just so many different concepts You say, why do you want to do this because no I seven don't want to be god They believe if I control all this world if I control the world, I'm a god And he said at the end of the day They realized they were nothing You know But can you even relate to that like did you ever have a time in your life where your because our ego is one of the scariest things right? You only play with the thought of it. It's not sincere not real. Yeah Only way you're a god if you if you live forever You're immortal You know, but we have demigods now that now we have we have authors that turn people into gods You know like what do you mean by that? Um, some people would never be forgotten Napoleon all these guys. He did know your history. You have to know these people They're part of history. We we can't know our history. We don't know these people That's what makes them godly. Oh only if we know them You never get to know them unless you read about them. They're only in special places to know their identity Did you like what was one of the toughest times you ever had with your own ego because like ego is just so scary, right? I don't know. My ego is It's so um personal you know I don't know how to even to say I just want to do better than before. I don't think I have You know, I do think I'm Alexander the great sometimes I know I think I have and what are you talking about like you do like You dressing up in the bedroom. What you doing a little role playing I Had it says ATG on it. No, it's just that the way I conduct myself He was a cancer too, my Alexander and what is down for was with his moody Who I learned that not to let my moods control my feelings. He was really moody That was his downfall What helped you like have discipline like you say say something like that you notice about yourself What helped you create like some little disciplines like that? um, the best way to receive discipline is to do what you Hate to do but to do it like you love it. You do that. That's discipline And is that something you really practice all I practice my whole life even now Did you always love fighting or did you hate fighting or no, I loved it I loved I loved the concept of fighting. I loved the the fighters I was so I wanted the greatest fighters of the world to know my name I was I would you know, I was feel my knee kiss their hands kiss their feet I loved them. I worshiped them I believe they touch me they have good need for magic on me So I was going to be around I carried their bags for them I gave them money when I became big time fighter always gave them money because they're normally broken down and have no money You know most of that dementia so always gave them money to carry them Gave it and took it away if they got that dementia you feel me to run it right back, right? But um, I just thought that But paying homage you're saying I would yeah, I had to pay homage Fighting to see these guys. I wouldn't want to be who I am today. These guys inspired me to be fighter I don't want to be nothing else even though I saw that they turned out I normally would turn out like these guys nothing begging. I still wanted to be a fighter. I don't care I wanted to be with that kind of I wanted to be in that fraternity You that's so interesting here. Yeah, I never think about that. It's like yeah, like I didn't just We didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves all by ourselves Like there was so much influence and people that did something before us that like let us No matter what our job is or what our thing is that we like to do in life That's interesting man. I forget about that sometimes like yeah, sometimes I get I don't get stuck there much but sometimes it'll be like Oh, like yeah, I made me It deals you ever think about who you are how you really got here What you really consist of Is there something more than you are we going to see each other again at another time? Are we living in parallel lives? This right here going on somewhere else in life. Hmm. We have so much energy We don't even know about ourselves. We know everything else, but we don't nothing about us Oh, yeah, dude. I didn't like Most of my life I wasn't even Me I was just I was just like some survival mechanism that had started off. Does that make any sense to you? 100 that's the first thing to happen self-preservation starts first And then once we get situated then we try to figure everything else out. Yeah Yeah, man, it took forever like it took me probably 30 years just to exhale, you know I understand understand brother understand and then it's scary because there's times I thought man like I don't even know if I wanted to be like a funny guy I might need to be one of somebody that worked out like a um clothing like a haberdasher or whatever like a Singer but I but I but that was the first thing that I could get people to like You get attention. Yeah, I see you and so I could like I was just There was I don't have another choice that formed everything I was, you know I wanted to be seen so much. I was a little baby and my mother and a friend everybody was having fun drinking I put my finger and drain on I put it in my mouth And I wanted them and I started screaming they by grabbing me and took me to the hospital But I wanted that attention at such a young age. Yeah Oh, I love going to the hospital dude because They had good food back then too and they give you attention, bro Yeah, dude, they had a couple ladies will come in and care about you even a gay dude They slip in there every now and then But still brother jim mcman Love is love. I Bro, love is love I got a question like uh, did did anybody ever Because I just got back from lexington, right lexington, Kentucky and they have the derby race there And it's a beautiful place we just shot a special for netflix actually that's coming out on like about two months I'm excited about that. But did anybody ever approach you to buy your semen? And I mean that honestly and I don't mean that in like a negative word No, I mean I gave it away free. Why didn't they want to buy it? Bro Dude, we're giving our busted ass semen away out here. Are you over there? Dang, bro And free What? I had no idea they were selling there buying Dude, I'll be a billionaire right now. You can still Bro long as you can still warm up a batch bro. You can sell it at the merch stand over here About if I was single I would I look I that's true. He might have an issue with it maniac God, bro I could give her a couple ounces for you out back at his joint today, man I'm happy with my life is now. Yeah What's what's a few things before we go like what's a few things that make you uh That bring you some of the most joy that you have today and they can be something small. It could be anything Just my children don't have to live the life that I live. That's the only thing that I feel like here about Is it that's all I care about Yeah, is that something this might even make them strong but I wouldn't take the risk It might kill them too. Wait say that one more time for me. I say it might even make them strong But it might kill them too. Oh, they have to go through the same stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to take the chance I like the way they live it now Yeah, well you did it. Yeah, man. It's good a lot of help a lot of help a lot of help Yeah Yeah, we don't do it alone Excuse me. No no way No way you realize real quick when you have children you need help. Yeah, you need a lot of help um Thank you so much for joining us today. Michael wants to say that You have a one you have a one-man show that's going to be try that's a Live show that your wife wrote. Is that right? Yes, she did Wow And did she have to get you to sign off to do some teamwork or what was it? Sign off for what matter that this is her working. I don't get any money for it. What do you mean? sign off I mean for you did she just like say or was it like did you guys like how do you put that together because it's Interesting that she would write it. Is it just about it's talk. It's talk. It's talk. It's talk about Shit, you know, it works out well. Yeah Um, like you're loving when you hear the mid the midget story You got a good one in it. Oh and it's in the it's in the show. Oh, yeah Save some of the yeah, I'm gonna out. You know what I'll come out to one You gotta check this out. Yeah, I'll come out. I'll even come on stage and just listen to it I'll put on something little for you Not for you for just I'm gonna I'll just wear it. Tell me about little how little works I put on a small you go with thong I'm gonna say in a small shirt But you have that one man show that's gonna be and that's gonna be a tour We'll see okay. We see how much they're paying me for it. We'll see and you have uh, And you have your um documentary that's coming out on Netflix. Yes, I do you do If uh, you guys know every fucking thing about you. I know it. You're the fuck. I don't know. We learned a lot tonight, dude Um, if cuss if if cuss the model could see you are now and see your whole life, right? If he could see your whole life, you know and just get to spend some time with you today Do you think like what would be something that you would like to Like a moment you would like to see with him or or have him say what do you think it'd be something that he'd be impressed by? I would think cuss Anybody in the world says I'm the best ever. What do you think? What do we think guys? But no one he would say No, a cuss would say what what would he say, right? You didn't move your head enough. That guy was a little fast. He wouldn't hit you Oh, that guy was a little faster. He would hit you. Yeah, knock a guy eight seconds He was a little faster. You meant to have your head up Um, man, thank you so much for sharing your time with us today For bringing your family here today just for the opportunity that we get to see you. They all love you I don't know who the fuck you are. Yeah, my family But they love me my kids love me You know the truth dude, I don't know who the fuck I am either, bro I wish I did too, but hey, but I love you man. Thank you so kindly brother. That's the truth and uh, and thank you Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Tyson Oh Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be Cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mind. I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take You