MBAM Flip on Early Days of Chicago Drill, Ewol Running Down on Him, Rico Recklezz vs Rooga

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Yeah, cause you was in and out, right? Cause you got out. I came home, man. And then went right back in. Yeah, they valid me. Also, what they violate you for? Nothing case. Bullshit ass case. I just knocked that shit out, came home. So how long, how long you spent in jail, just all together? How long I do, all together? Like three? Three and a half? You don't know you. Three and a half. I tell you what, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm an ex-hunter. I appreciate it. He was all that shit. Three and a half, y'all did like three and a half. How about three? You did a little time. Then a four. Yeah. I came home and I got locked right back up. So for the most part, you just been in Chicago, just staying out the way then for the most part. Cause four years, cause you really went viral. What year would you say you went viral? That was what? 2010, 12? Yeah. 12. 2012, what? 12. You gotta say 12. So let's, before we- But I'm not the way though. Yeah, before we even get into that, let's just give a breakdown on like, for the people who don't know you, where are you from? I'm from the Hunnids. I'm from the Wild Hunnids, man. I'm from downhill, 118th to Prairie. I'm from Derebro, 120th, Perry, La Ciel, La Fiat. That's where I'm from. Like nothing else. I ain't from no-wells. I'm from outside the city. The Hunnids is the city. Where I'm from, we the Wild. We are the city. We are in the city. And break that down cause we got a lot of people coming up here who from the low end. And the low end is like the 40s, the 30s, right? Yeah, yeah. We're doing a hundred. So that's the opposite side in there. Yeah, but that's just Florida. That's just deep south. You gotta say that's deep south. That's not like, the birds call itself the Hunnids too, cause the numbers, but it's different. That's not, that's not really like the city. The Hunnids is still in the city. What is going on? Where is it? It's, it's, it's why, that's why they call it the Wild Hunnids. Or so what's the name of y'all block or street or? We just, NBAM. We NBAM Derebro. Derebro NBAM. Simple with that. But it's always been that? Yeah, forever. For the last, past my time. All right, so that wasn't nothing you started. That was even before you was there. Me and my brothers started that NBAM shit. That NBAM shit, aw shit. All right. Yeah. My brother Mazzy, man. But it like translated to like everybody from there kind of saying it. It just became like much, much more popular through you guys claiming it. Yeah. Cause my f*** had a fart on place and get out later. This was type of time, you know. We ain't on with y'all long. Y'all gotta move around. We NBAM. My brothers and me, money, bitches and murder. We separate ourselves from everybody else type of shit. Just got on our own brotherhood type shit, loyalty. For sure. And at the time when you created this crew, was this like everyone had their crew? So you like, we finna, or y'all was, this was a rap crew? Like what made y'all even? We just won no rap shit. It was just, everybody had no crew. It just, we was just like, and our hood, how the way our hood is, it just like, everybody went on the same type of time that we was on, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So we just like separate ourselves from everybody. Love a couple of other n****s from a distance, but we just, I look for, this is what we on. They ain't on, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? We on strictly NBAM, death row shit. D.H.U. It's probably like a brotherhood, man. Yeah, we a brotherhood, man. And I know gang for real. Yeah, there's ain't no gang. Everybody, we all brothers, y'all look at everybody the same, you feel me? Yeah. Just can't get it. Yeah, there ain't no gang shit, man. Definitely. When you started actually, well, okay, before we even get into the rap, and when you feel like you kind of fully hopped off the porch. Like it's a shorty. I was a shorty, I ain't gonna lie, like 12. Anybody that know me, big about, but yeah, I was a shorty, 12. And you were just with all your young homies, or you have like big homies that you were kind of the young dude hanging out with? Yeah, older, like, and I heard we had older n****s. Our older n****s was getting money. So it was like, the older gabs was getting money, but we always had our circle, you know what I'm saying? That I said that we separated out, so we had ourself. All of us would jump off the porch, 11, 12, 13, you know what I'm saying, we was doing shit. What was the reason you had a jump off the porch? Circumstances? Like, what was the household like? They're rhyming. My household was strong. My mama, my mama hard-bite, so I don't want my mama hard-bite. So a household was strong, but just that rhyming, you know what I'm saying? I'm around a whole bunch of n**** killers. You can't be no... Poodle. You know, you're gonna get eight out of them, so I just adapted to my rhyming, it's like, shit. Poodle's a good type of dog, but... Yeah, I see you like him. I do, I got two of them. It doesn't make a headband. But yeah, though, baby, you just adapted to our rhyming, man. You gotta adapt. What was the first major thing you like? Yeah, I gotta move different out here. Like, that made you like, wiser than up. When I was shorty? Yeah, that made you like, all right. Shit was real, shit, I'm a... I'm a shorty, n****s getting clapped. N****s getting f***ed up out there. I want them to get f***ed up. So I'm like, I... You did f*** people up or get f***ed up? You know, because a lot of people come on here and they say like, their parents knew of the circumstances, or they might not have known. Like, what's your mom aware of what was going on? Did she try to like, move you out the area or like... Rhyming or what? I was a... I always been like a little intelligent mother, like, stay in school. And like, my OG didn't play that shit, but I was still in the streets, because that's what I liked. That's what... Like, you can't stop if you went outside. This was outside. Yeah. So she knew it, just she was like, just stay on your shit. And this is what you want to do. Stay on that shit too. You know what I'm saying? Bro, she's trying to tell you to stay out the streets. Nah, she's saying it. She always told me to stay out the streets. Because if you want to be in the streets, you know what I'm saying? Stay on point. You know? Don't play. Don't slip. This is what you want to do. Huh? You grown up. Just don't f*** up. Don't let them... They think it's kill you or don't go to jail for the rest of your life. Hmm. But she seems like she kind of like understood that you're probably going to be living a wild life, no matter what. I'm a more problem child. Yeah. Yeah. She knew that. How many siblings is this that we got? Old brothers, full sisters. Oh, so y'all was deep. All in the same crib? Three months full sisters. Yeah. Or... So what do you think that that instilled in you from just having to share a home with so many other kids? Sh**, sh**. I got to make some work because I can't go out like this. No, it's too many of us. We got to change the narrative. You know what I'm saying? We got to get a big house. Do you think it made you like competitive because you got so many brothers? No, growing up... You don't want to be the little guy. You want to kind of rise to the top, right? No, growing up it wasn't just all of us in that muffin crib. Okay. Because mufflers get born, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Like three of us, then you fold, then you know what I'm saying? So that's the type of shit we do. Y'all heard of that's like a GD hood? Or what's the area? There's more GDs, BDs. You know, every section in Chicago is like either... Nah, man, we gangsta. All right, so that's like a GD area. But we don't get a f***** about that shit. We a all-star team, long little super, long little lord. My brother, he was a white lord. So we don't get a f***** about that shit. Long little solid four-core, he was solid four. Yeah. We don't care about that gangbanging shit. We just NBA him, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it don't matter. Yeah, it don't matter. Lurte, Lurte don't gangbang. Hmm. You tapped in with like the other GDs that were rapping in Chicago? Or that's not like a... Yeah, a lot of motherf*****s. I'm tapped in with who? The third-year-old n****s, man. Like I'm tapped in like, you know, if you f***** with me, you f***** with me. But it's a lot of, you know... All right, so let's break it down. When did you start rapping initially? Because like early on, you was probably one of the first people to be rapping out in Chicago. Like when the cheeky movement started, when did you start rapping? Like how long after that? I was really rapping for a minute. I was rapping for a minute and then I just really took that shit serious. When I came home, I was in the audience, I came home, family moved us to 75th. The family moved to another side of the city. So I'm like f*****g... I started rapping and the people who I was around, 75th, they was on some rapping s**t and they was on the same type of time I was on. And where year this is? Like 20... This was like 2010, 2009. This was old name, in fact. And the cheeky got songs busting already or? No. It's 2011. Everybody with that whole ear all of us... So nobody even made it yet at this time? Nobody. Everybody just working? Everybody with this dirty b***** in the studio time, you know. Everybody won no... One nobody million years of singing. All right, so who was influencing you to rap at this time? Because a lot of people got influenced after they seen cheeky made it and they're like, oh sh**, I could do this too. You was doing it before you made it. So like who influenced you? And they were like, you know what, I'm gonna do this sh**. I just was seeing, like I was listening to my bracketer rappers who I was listening to like mainstream, you know. I was listening to them, but it was just like I just... I don't know what it is. It's time, like I just wanted to do it. I just love music. Who you listening to at the time? Gucci, Wayne. What? My boy Gucci, don't let me down. Universal feeling amongst the streets right now? The pounds and the trash can, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci. Bro, you never seen anybody's stock drop that quickly. Right, but what I'm gonna say, I was Gucci, Gatti, Wayne of course. She... 50. Yeah, all right for sure. 50. 36 mafia. So those are the influences? I was listening to them. So who are... where you going to the studio at? Because at the time now people were calling on their phones back then, you ain't had that. So what was the studio process like for you? And getting money for studio time and all that? Break that down. See I was like low key spoiled in my hood. Like all the other guys really spoiled me and said, they ain't spoiled me, but they loved me. So like I was... and they was backing me up. So they was... Go to the studio. So they push you to rap? Yeah, they fuck that street shit, go to the studio. Go to the studio, you can rap, you got talent, they rap. So I was hitting the stool and in the streets. But I make sure I stayed in that stool because you know, but I had to stay in the streets because I had something to rap about, but I had to rap about something, I ain't won a lot. So locally at this time who having like motion and shit after you... Louis was busing. So Louis gone crazy. Louis was going, Louis was doing his thing man, shout out for whatever. You were a Bump J-Fan before that? Yeah. I ain't gonna lie, I was fucking with Bump before he got booked. I fuck with Bump, Bump, Bump Thurl. That was a big wave in terms of like before Chief Keep, that's like one of the main rappers. I was like, oh, this is a Chicago street dude. Yeah, full of young some gangsta type of time, but yeah. Bump... Louis and shit. Nobody really like... Everybody was just developing themselves at that time and era. We was the people that was rapping, you know what I'm saying? The us, you know what I'm saying? The drill rap. Alright, so then this brings me to where I guess your viral moment kind of started happening. So you rapping at the time, so I guess AOKD was having a little bit of motion at the time. Cause I've seen him on the internet, where was his motion really coming from during that time? Cause it wasn't... he didn't have like a big song out or yeah, you breaking out. I'ma keep it 100. I don't know what shorty, you know, shorty had some motion back then. I ain't gonna take another... he had motion whatever the f*** he was doing, you know what I'm saying? But he just was a rapper. That's it. I see like Facebook and his little going viral moments for doing goofy shit. That's what got him his buzz. And this one he hanging out with Dex and stuff too at the time. Dex having motion and shit too, right? Of course, folks had motion, but yeah. So what was your relationship with AOKD? You knew him as a friend or this was like... Alright, this nigga rap, I'ma link with him. See, I really just tapped in with him cause I seen he had motion and that's what you're supposed to do. You don't have to tap in with him for a month before he got motion. But I tapped in with him like I'll do some music, boom. That type of shit. But it was only music. It was one note, like you my best friend, you my homie, let's go slam the op. So let's go smoke weed and do this type of shit. Nah, it was just strictly music. So how many times you and AOKD hung out? Two times. Before that, only twice ever? That's it. I bumped into him and he not a person that I'd be like, what's up with? So alright, let's break down the day that you went viral over the little porch incident. So you reached out to AOKD, I guess you're also gonna go to the studio to do a feature? Yeah, and y'all been playing with me. Cause y'all been saying my name when I been booked. Playing with that shit. That was Reno. He snitchin' on me quick. That was good motion. Nah, what you say though? What was said though? Freshman, cause you probably... Nah, just the flip. Like this topic is like, this motherfucker must've been big. Oh, we interviewed AOKD like maybe two years ago and he probably gave a less flattering description of these events. And EWAL probably too. EWAL, okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. But we gettin' to that, we finna get there. So like alright, break down the day of like, alright, so you reached out to AOKD like, hey, let's go to the studio. Yeah, I reached out to him on some, alright, look, we finna hit the lab type shit. He had some other shit he wanted to do. Then we was like, alright, shit, I haven't come grab me. I had a man slap on me. He actually was the, but he wasn't the, like he went at the, when they got an animal. I'm so crazy. I had my pipe. Well, damn, I don't mean. But yeah, I had that motherfucker on me. I was like, man, I'm good. He's a nigga of goofy, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a nigga of goofy. I said, just like that. You trust that nigga for, oh. But my man like, he's a fucking corn. Like what the fuck, I'm a, you know what I'm saying? I'm not, he ain't dangerous. Alright, at the time, would you pay him for a feature? What made him want to link with you? I don't know. He just out the blue. I don't know what the fuck. I've seen a couple of videos, interviews he did and shit, all that. Trying to put me on the wave, he said. Thoughts of me, oh, what the fuck he said, but. I feel like folks had his own emotion too. Yeah, I've been up on emotion. He like, no, he was doing his shit too, like on a rap too. Like he was one of them faces when he, when like, when really from Chicago was going up. He was one of them faces really going to the ones that was still out there too. Like I ain't need you, I just wanted to do it because it's like, I've seen emotion with Dex. And then like, it was a different type of lane of rapping. Alright. I mean, I'm not sure if he's gonna be able to do it, but I'm not sure. I ain't need you, I just wanted to do it because it's like, I've seen emotion with Dex. And then like, it was a different type of lane of rapping. Alright. I'm talking about drill and shit that I'm really doing and shit that the Streaks. Cause Vouchin be like, yeah, shorty doing it. You got my phone moving in. You talking about like, bitches and finessing and money and parking. So I'm like, I can get on that wave. So let's do it. So then what he come pick you up? He pick you up. I ain't know. So you in his car? Yeah, I'm in his car. I'm in his car. We ain't f***ing limit. Pup, that bitch. 25 mile per hour. That's it. That motherfucker. Fishbowl. But he f***ing want you to know he give me a chance. Yeah, he pull up on me. I don't take that. He pull up on 120th and pear. Doloh? He Doloh? He was some n***a. He look like a n***a. So I'm like, I ain't thinking nothing of it. I ain't got my guards up. But I should cause I'll keep my guards up on Mac. But I... You were young and you're new to the rap shit. No, I wasn't new to it. I was growing into the rap shit. You were first starting to really get attention. But I just, I ain't getting off. What age was this to break that down? How old were you when this was going on? Cause this so many years ago. I ain't gonna lie. I don't even know. I'm 32. So that's whenever that shit mad mad. So you were like, was like 20 years ago. You were like 12. No. No, I wasn't 20 years. Oh wait. I wasn't the mad. That's 15 years ago. So you're like 17. I'm like 17. I mean a lot of dudes like don't really have anything to do with dudes outside their area until they get in the rap game. But he did know. He did. He did he had nothing to do with nothing like nothing like so I alright So he picked you up you get in the whip with both these niggas and y'all got a destination to go to the studio, right? Yeah, he told me I got a stew. I Got a stew or whatever. What is that? I got a stew well I'm like, all right, man. We go we hit the stew We pull up but when we pull up his fish is ill so you actually made it to the studio Yeah, we made it to the stew that bitch fishy. I'm doing this fishy. Yeah, we hit a bird like We'll come to the bird. Let's be playing ball. Why you say it's fishy though What made you boosted out that you lie? Yeah, this is yeah studio. How do we be move we move? Correct. Like we have a studio that don't open we don't go in that bitch or The studio man gonna pop out. We're gonna do something. You know I'm saying so it was just fish. I just felt flavors fish But be be be You know Whatever happened happen. That's I'm thinking you give you you better give me good But I was thinking about that. I was Was gonna happen Well, uh, so I'm sure we pop out that bitch we hop out the limit We pop out that bitch he look around they look around a Nigga pop out at the door. I've been really like a band-aid Now when I get when I get close now I'm at the stairs. I'm on the porch now. I'm on the board I've been like a band-aid while I'm peeping it out Nigga comes to the dough. He like hold on what they they politic I can't really remember but they politic in this shit By the time I turn around I see what I see I'm got but I'm thinking Because the person I am you get I'm saying yeah, I'm thinking motherfucking finna All right, so that porch was the studio porch. No, that was a send-off move. They sent his ass off Sorry, you break that now. So hi I go from the studio to that porch cuz that wasn't that they told him I guess they I don't know what the I guess they were setting him up or they have something as in Santa and Katie. All right. I guess they were setting them up I guess But I guess they was gonna lower him now whatever the fuck the case may be on give a But uh so your mom where you think you going so y'all hop back in the whip No, we never hop back in the whip. We hopped out the car to the We we out we own the porch now now Bando oh so the studio the porch is what you thought was That's crazy Me be me. I'm gonna check the side of these careers Oh Like this ain't got my pay for me Security mode bridge your security out so now look I see what I see you got me type of the guy in spain me All my awesome is pay me. Yeah, those guys on the what they was and by how many niggas pulled up cuz when we see We see you all but we don't really see too many other niggas Like around like six Like six Everybody got the bitches on and you Dola and a ok D. Is homie I'm done. They don't count down and they ain't got nothing to do Alright, so let me ask you this thing cuz the main thing you was on he was saying you sound you say chief manky What then niggas don't be bullying shit I am if it come on here capping and woofin with niggas or boys saying they do them don't bully shit all that bully shit niggas be doing is any that shit send niggas off that Social media all this shit niggas don't be bullying nothing man. There's three notes the fuck going on So what was the moment where he kept telling you to say chief manky like what was that about? I don't know. I guess he felt like that was his moment. They put a camera out. That was a moment. She I'm saying who is that? Why why that name one of his homies right? I guess somebody in your hood was dissing them back in the day cuz we don't or are you doing yeah, you were I was on record though like this music or you just this Tab I was Cuz you were dissing all these people but in that Zach TV interview, but that's actually the interview was right after this right? Yeah, okay, I can do that cuz I was doing shit to people right right So it's like God the other shit like yeah, so it's like Okay So you knew I so in your mind you want you will who was in into it already So you knew if you ran in the EU a lot of problem. Yeah, okay D don't he don't know how nothing to do with what y'all got going on Nothing, but it do seem like him and his homies such I look cuz what the fuck if y'all never even went into a studio So what's that conversation like we're a okay? The eye so they let you they let him off the porch now look look look like I was saying though ain't Now I see him with a I'm thinking they finna do them But once I see the nigga movement nigga by language Yeah, cuz if you gonna do something that's what you gonna do something so you know I'm saying you ain't gonna look at a nigga Oh, this you gonna blow up my foot. I don't whatever the case may be whooping it whatever You ain't do that. I'm saying why you think you didn't do that to you. I Don't know like the people who I'm into with that was They would it did something you know they not gonna pull out no cameras. Yeah, cuz that's internet shit my nigga That's goofy shit nigga killers don't pull out cameras motherfuckers. They now a new era killer dude, but Niggas on wheel That's it corn bars shit, but yeah, though. I seen that Not to see how much for carry they sell nigga one of his moment I guess he know he was riding reckless way so he had to you know, man. This was that was his little moment nigga got on up there shit not got on the nigga ain't on but nigga got No, right off that shit. Yeah, how many times you said reckless renegade before he even made you or told you to stop saying You never like where's it cuz he kept saying keep reckless renegade out my out your mouth like you was on record saying that shit I never Did I really don't So huge is that was just say that like if like motherfuckers you know, if you know, you know, I don't You admit that you might this chief make you whatever like when it comes to the rico Reckless renegade shit you wasn't even saying you know what the fuck you're so much. I was saying them at the time I was saying all reckless I was saying All right, dude, I was saying fuck Cuz that's what type of time that's what we on how far they hood is from y'all hood for y'all to even be into it Like that shit cuz if you they 79th the song right now We're we're gonna hood that compared y'all shit Rico hood. Yeah, you all Do is near is near so he in a hundred is to yeah, all right. It makes sense Rico hood. I Don't know Hope on the bird Hope from the bird any from the low end any from 75 Thanks from all over the bush Yeah, but folk but that because folk grew up. I like no I moving around different places Like I'm from the hundred. Yeah, I'm strictly from the hunts. I'm a downy your death on it, but I had moved on 75 That's how I got into him with food on that's how he got to Moving down So after you film the video how did this whole exchange and What you mean? How'd you end up going your own separate ways? Oh? Oh Yeah, they they they whoop them off of it. I even whoop them off of it. We go on pumpkin. We go beat you to My brother you not just gonna get up and just Can we go beat you up the Zag TV was the next day? Like how many days later cuz you ain't had no black eyes or nothing. I had a scratch on me Yeah So to those ladies That because I had a The Root canal That's my favorite play but a nigga ain't scratch me a none and we will put nigga We gonna beat the bones out your way. We're not gonna let you get up See a folks how yellow You could have seen anything So Little nigga that was that he got up out of here a bitch not a ok D the other He got about he instant Were you feeling like a ok D might have set you up? I wouldn't even think about that. I was half fuck off them pills and I was thinking about like They got them They got them pipes this anything you know I'm saying I ain't care about nothing else Like I ain't care about nothing else. All right, but Hansa when you look at it Okay D kind of got embarrassed in that situation too So like why would he backdoor you if he gonna look stupid too? So like do you think he set you up a lot? How do you think they got your love from them even pull up me even get you to that porch cuz I'm him to the poor that's some shit that me know me and him We did talk after that, but we ain't never had no grown man conversation. I know no third or no good conversation You got I'm saying we never had no real politics Because he ain't no third politics in that yeah me me. I feel like That shit wasn't for folks you feel me cuz honestly like no Know what's going on in the streets if it would have been that call that Folks trying to go record you feel me would have been different like just off the get go like if I just think no cameras Would have been pulled out period like no like so you then they tricked him into going to the studio knowing that she was with him No, I don't feel like they knew folks as well. That's just my opinion I don't feel like they knew folks was with him because I being I feel like if you've known in the streets for No, if you got ops in the streets, you feel me and a nigga get the car Shit a nigga depending on what you didn't get out here. How you coming? They don't it's gonna be thirsty on that car. You feel me? Yeah, and my fucking finna pull up and pull up pull out on phone. Yeah, I'm no car So so then my thing is if that wasn't even the studio and they just really large out to a location How do they even get a okay? Like how do they lure him there what you think if you break it down what you think they told him to get him there Especially if they don't even know that they're trying to get you they just trying to lure him there for no reason I Go back to your neighborhood and like how you go about like explaining this to him And did people want to like crash out when they heard about it? Crash out we just do shit shit got done She got done y'all did that clown and shit y'all pay for this facts But they had a little a ok D on boy walk away, and I guess they jumped you right? Yeah You may you may phone calls niggas picked you up with some shit. You wasn't beat up to the back I guess could be seen you just act TV. So like how you get home that day? Like yeah, I call niggas niggas ain't Rob you I'm so cutting using when a nigga jump you they try to rob me and take whatever so they just jumped you and then left you About your business I should Play fight with frozen yeah It was like play fine before the hardware Cuz the main thing play rather than it on that exact TV shit the main thing you kept saying y'all shouldn't let me off that porch And that that was the most viral thing from the whole thing everybody kept saying y'all shouldn't let me off that porch So Zach Zach been got up with you or like that made him lie. I we got to do the interview ASAP No, I mean Zach been locked in I ain't gonna lie We are really like I PZX TV man So where y'all filmed the video at the next two days, so where was that at y'all heard it song? No, I just put up a little location Yeah The reason I asked cuz one of the main dudes in the video he was the dude in the purple shirt I think he named J-rock Yeah, that nigga he went super viral from that video cuz he I guess he he seemed like he was the most mad nigga out of everybody out there What's happening? What's happening? What's he if you know real bug? Was a real bug But if you know a post a good nigga like he yeah, I suppose fun a big-ass baby to his brothers Like and he was a he was up, you know, he's like he was one of the ones like you gotta love you feel me He ain't gonna leave nobody behind type nigga He fuck around if the if the odds one of the odds you be around for their foot around like What was a good nigga to be around? Yeah, overall good nigga to be around Before just beat people up in spank shit Wrong little J-rock Only glizzy How you how you feel about like this music shit after like all these years do you feel like uh, I Guess you felt like slept on Hey, oh, yeah I got me Lot of you rapper can't get right man. All these niggas that should be trash I want to hit nigga rap. You gonna rap rap sing sing Y'all got me fucked up so what what's told you out cuz I think about like this you you did four years in jail But that was kind of like recently So I just was I'll just my Outdoor in the streets, you was and I was doing so I was getting some money I wouldn't yeah, like that sound back was I was getting some money. I wasn't investing in music, but I was doing shit like I was It was it was grand time I was in the streets Like I was on some rapping shit, but I was doing what I was doing at that time I just feel like folks wasn't focused enough you hear me on the on the right shit you hear me after that cuz she everybody like Capitalized off that moment type shit. You feel me like rather good or bad But folks ain't care about that shit Like So you was all made you more focused lately on the music I'm matured I had time to think We can struck myself a lot. So I'm like I I need to post them dead They give me now millions for this shit. They give me niggas millions for this shit. This shit easy Shit I got this shit easy Do you regret being two in the streets back in the day when you first started having most room in the music? And you wish you had like focused on that more Yeah, I can agree I don't fully regret I just feel like I I should Pay attention, you know, I should calm my ass down. Yeah Change little change some little shit. Hmm. That's it a lot of times with the music people think like oh, I got plenty of time to Make music and etc. But then like in reality There's new rappers popping out all the time and you kind of got to grab your moment right when it happens Yeah, really, but I was like I said I was doing shit I was tweaking I was tweaking I had that moment so many times I ain't gonna lie at that moment. Why could the bench? Yeah, Ben took off but I was You just moving around Craig cuz you got shot back then too didn't it? Where was that? I So break down that day. Well, what you what happened today? You got shot or like what you was doing Lonely famic My little brother had passed away my little brother. He had passed away and shoot He was his friend or his birthday Now you just pass some of the day I got hit. Yeah, it was just like one of the days after you passed Yeah, we just chillin You know Got up on the moon for Whatever happened happened. Yeah You just in the whip like you outside niggas get hit you Word I was upset That was your first time getting shot. I mean how many times you got where you got hit at? That's it. I'm a guy was How many song three or so what's the recovery process of light for that? How long they had you at the hospital? Recovery process was a month. I'm sure you ain't got shot. No, not three in the stomach different though I know I'm a little more fucking through. Yeah skinny motherfucking so But she You know through the stomach different could you you know niggas get shot on the arm or some shit But that she was a motherfucker though that that that healing process was a How long was the healing process I had to sit in that motherfucker for months like months I Don't know how long but it was month. It was months. I was in that bitch month Yeah, when I came home, I had to do all pipe your shit like shit bag They gave shit back me Just a simple man. They just stitch me up. What's they from you? I Heel thought got back to some money Did you know Rico records or you all ever have a conversation? Yeah, no, man, you ain't got nothing to talk about Me records we be part of a couple times so we got Mutual yeah, like my yeah, we got family ties. Oh, yeah, cuz oh Ain't Rico baby mama Sister, yeah, that's my oldest sister. They got kids Yeah, so break that down was that before the poor situation They've been together for a minute. All right, so I got been Yeah, so me and him policy and it don't be what I'm a fucking thing like the internet shit What do you mean? I don't be the Rico wasn't standing on business Oh Don't be the it don't be the what I'm up with think I'm on your ass Fuck you Gdk knows we don't be on none of that we be tweaking we be on some no Poptic will be probably don't be no Yeah, but since that's his cousin you and you walk in that round that conversation Best friend or whatever I Just saying cuz have you seen you all lately you seem like he he's transitioning like he's more mature now He's doing like Afro beat music and shit He ain't on the like he came up here in the interview and it was like super positive Yeah, he ain't on the same No choice but to Grow you understand who the fuck he probably just at the point where he like I open the growth in this shit You know saying Nick is growing your grown-ass man. You know saying you got a stand on some do though, but if You know niggas got niggas want to stay out the way. So that's what he on probably but niggas Would you be down to reunite with him on an Afro beat song? Some positive world music shit for all the showties in Chicago and beyond You like Afro beat music in general I don't really get it I don't know I like music though. So yeah, I listen to a lot of shit Yeah, I probably run across some good shit. So even J-Man couldn't get you on the couch together push no peace I see that's your boy. So J-Man No, how you feel about like people going together J-Man cannot make that So that's one ain't gonna happen. No He know they ain't gonna happen. Yeah, I'm saying I Ain't a lot I'm on some you know, I'm also growing me and shit fool like I'm on some Different shit man. I'm on some just With that shit that's free shit. Yeah, street shit stayed in the streets You know, I'm saying that's what's gonna happen if we see each other, but other than that, I'm out the way You out the way. I'm out the way, you know what time it is Other than that, it's too much money out here to be worried about what happened in 2016 15 Yeah, I hate that you even like every interview niggas want to bring that up like you got a retell that story, right? Yeah, but I ain't gonna retell it It's life shit folks got one you feel me? Yeah niggas can't tell a story again Hey niggas know I ain't one of them niggas what niggas get Yeah They want a nigga get or a nigga just all That habit them that was that's why it was big what y'all think that's why it went Blue up look who the nigga they did it to you think that would have blew up if that was a Nobody on that porch or that wasn't me All right, and that was early days of like shit gone viral like you want to yeah now It's like if some of it would have if it was just a okd and dude and that should have it probably it would have made some noise But it would never You know saying Yeah, it's like now we see like a new clip of somebody getting beat up or hold out or whatever all the time But at that time it was like you got one clip like that and it's like dudes are talking about it for months like I ain't never get beat up. Oh Played with right y'all play with me. That's what happened. Hmm But at least you made it out, you know How you yeah Yeah, I mean shit now alright from that Zach TV interview how many of your homies still here from that same interview Oh and how many people was in that interview? So when you when you see shit like that You select you see how many niggas cuz you still here Because you niggas a lot of people be here because they did a lot jail time so like jail kind of like preserving But you still out on the streets you did four years of jail. You wasn't really doing your time Yeah, so so how you think you able to manage to stay alive and like move and maneuver these Chicago streets and not get Caught up like how a lot of niggas might you know die young or you still in Iraq And you a face and you getting some money. Well, if you not getting whatever you doing if you're facing you still in Iraq Yo as a good Get the rat get you some money well with the money that you getting get off the rack. I only stay in Iraq I'll stay in God say that but Yeah, but above you all the right over That bitch a firecracker What about like family members and shit like you ever had to like you know easy and now go see your people How to stay out the way just stay out the way I do stay out the way you know that shit happen you go die Yeah, it's done that one life y'all see how me motherfuckers die It's like nothing is this that's it easy. So it's like easy Like stay out the way money My great money what about the nigga who ain't got no money and they they insomni shit But they ain't got the money to just up and move see that way grand you a man But usually if you got a face right you can't just like even you back in the day You got a face card. You can't just go get you a warehouse job or get you a made-down job So how nigga, you know what you got to do you want to squeeze what the streets come with Get you some money. Yeah, I don't know if I use some apples. You better be the best apple salamone fuck it is I fuck with you because you sell all the apples against money You some money that's as simple as that grand nigga You think they can ever you think there ever be any change in Chicago, so You got no hope for it. I'm gonna forget worse and worse You think it's worse now or from from back then when y'all was moving around they get worse and worse I know that is gonna fuck it It's my fuck that way where it was worse then yeah, like I err my ear It was worth folks there was like no folks if you don't count was Those was a shorty a key But he was with us type shit, so he got both errors. What oh yeah He got both of us and he got my air and he got his air which is my little brother. I'm all about a drake free Donnie free whoo-whop I feel like it's worse now because the guns are crazier and the drugs are worse Yeah, he little motherfucker got shit that Look for them got real color do we good like this bitch really grant that bottle that motherfucker really grant the father You go to 2011 it's like dudes got handguns and they are smoking weed and maybe taking like e-pills and shit And now dudes are fried on all kinds of weird shit. Sorry. No gosh it shoot hunts sometime. I ain't gonna be playing with you little boy Got bunnies out there look go yeah Some of the Chicago like the young Chicago drill rappers that we talked to it just sounds like absolute hell on earth Not him nobody Yeah, but You got little these little niggas round round five buttons Three drinks like damn How easy it for a nigga to get a button in Chicago You see like everybody got buttons in Chicago They do them off a terrible man. Don't bitch is dropping out this guy That's what make it worse though cuz niggas just you know I'm saying like that's the scary part of that shit niggas ain't hitting They target is just letting that bitch go I feel like it's different Knackers like shit like like folks are saying like I was in a ever-tooth so back then when my folks was Like doing shit like it was like we it was all kind of goofy shit Goofy pipes and I'll count a goofy niggas how revolvers Niggas first pipes is buns. Yeah, you first Crazy We got a I had a blue steel 3a shoe shroom around that bit I stole that bitch from J-rock Got locked up with that bitch But yeah dealer niggas first gun is straight Yeah, it's coming in hot Play with this little boy 13 trying to kill something Yeah, I see you's locked up at YB Monta oh, yeah, it's my brother Come on. Yeah, you got together I call for he gonna answer that bitch First first car first ring he gonna answer that big. Yeah That's how you and J-man got locked in or y'all school for that we got locked there to Botte All right Be a lot be about it was locked up OT we was also city shit Stick together, but we just link. That's my boy Then J-man came in that was my boy. We was already around the same people type shit. Yeah Is that crazy to see J-man pushing peace after? Being a demon earlier in his life He's a Pretty crazy music back in the day. Oh, no, it's like I feel like I was locked up with this shit He really did he really pulled one with that. That's my boy. I love he did his thing. I salute him for that That's my boy That's my boy. He did it. Anyhow, his work progress the way he had none He did it People did that wait, I liked that when I heard about it at first when I was like, I'm like, oh man He tricked The person piece shit. Yeah What you was hearing a jail for you by he tripped Oh I want to see this I'm gonna go on the old block and select that No, that's before that before folks came over to all like when he had a little dirt Yeah, I guess my folks look but that's my boy whatever folks will I'm well I push folks But I ain't that that piece shit. I'm gonna I push it like positivity. Yeah, I Push positivity I Guess positive positivity brings peace But I'm just gonna back up with my boy. You know cuz sometimes you can't push peace with everybody That should get your dumb ass spank. Oh, that's you came up like it could backfire That when that blood spill you came up that shit about concrete that shit stank forever Is up I ain't gonna do your man said you pushing peace. Oh one of them want to kill you Holds on a Treating a little that's it Not for everybody, but folks made it happen like I like the shit that you're doing like so smart He did he ran with he found his way around that more for We got right there I got a bucket of shit, so you singing now Hey, I thought that pain shit That pain shit and I be talking to for the women No, you really a dog with that shit though for if a road Oh, that's it like so how serious are you with the music now? Because you feel like you step on right now my head screwed. I'm sorry about my fans I love y'all put my head on school down grown. I'm on that just stay on my way Now I know what I want to do like a no I can't nobody You trying to get your rod wave on you feel like that's the future Now it's not even right away. I just talk paint. You know I speak to the church Ain't no drill songs like you're straight. Yeah, no, I got that like I'm gonna drop my album King of the Hill You got a date, you know when he's dropping you a 23rd 23rd influenced by Hank Hill From King of the Hill the TV show What that's a great TV show You never watch that I'm gonna drop that bitch though and I'm gonna drop a book Oh, you finna drop a book poetry book called how I feel I'm gonna drop that motherfucker. What's it about for the most part? I need to have feel for all my I wrote it in jail. All right I wrote someone have it in jail, but I've been writing poetry anybody that know me like really really know me I write poetry a lot in a rock or shit like cold So I had some in the world I wrote the name when I got locked up. I'm like, I I'm key writing I wrote so many of them I'm like, shit What I'm gonna name And it's different varieties of poem so it's like How I feel just how I was feeling when I was locked up and how everybody feeling like anybody that's locked up how they feel But the bitch you what she doing? You know, it's gonna be like what you think about everything just The world she I'm stepping outside the box. I got a couple short stories and a two Like six on that bitch from to be dang you were at trenches news book yet Or you know what that is though? No, I don't know You're a You're a youtuber We ain't talking about shorty who we ran in there I think he got a book he was from on the book Like I met him before you Where you meet him at kahee It was just some little shit. I was with one of my peoples just bumped up one too much. He had a ski mask on Yeah, he had a ski mask. We tried to tell him like take it out. He's like nah, bro. I can't do that But he's not certain He was roommates with duck back in the day said He got some gd credentials That's what he said though he was That's rare. Uh, you be clever. I have to move with duck. Yeah, that's crazy. Who you think gonna win this? Oh Rico reckless ruga fight and who you got your money on? You're gonna be there walking ruga to the ring. You're gonna walk ruga to the ring Man jail folk all me Judy But what I'm gonna say I ain't got money on nobody Rico reckless came fight He's gonna swing like a windmill. He got to get in the gym He said the floor is where you talking about the bitch. I've been out here. He said the floor is where man. I can't I can't hold on now I don't know what He said he's not training so who? Rico I gotta get in the gym. He's not training. He's not gonna stop smoking weed and drinking and he's not gonna Try to like do he's not doing anything to get ready for it at all. He just assumes that he's gonna do good, which he might but So you got your money on record Honestly, I probably would have wanted to be in this corner But after doing that interview and hearing how not serious he's taking it. I think I'll probably have to put my money on ruga I guess he's like, I don't know I don't know the vying Folks better knock his ass out That's what I'm sure ruga ruga looking like the champion of Chicago now. He's you see in his other fight. Yeah knock him out Beat up a Cali dude punch on his ass dude was too animated Chicago niggas they drawn to that. They just like you But we be thinking y'all just shooters though. So ruga put y'all on the map as fighters now That one even that one even fighting Like come on come a little cudd I'm a little cudd some big cudd punching his ass Yeah, it looked like he did not have a plan at all for how he was gonna hit ruga But he just could not figure out how to get near him or hit him Too big. You see he folks want a little kid and a little boy out there He just I was trying to call a lkd. I want to try the Hollywood I want to try to get on him, man That would have been legendary for the culture, but he ain't answering Shit. So we got the album dropping May 23rd Yep, I'm dropping between third angle. I ain't having I haven't sat down and thought about the release day for the book though I ain't really sat down and think about that. I'm still working on that. That's coming after the album After the album And I got another album and to all the fans who've been mad at you and dropping music and shit Talk to the fans that you know, they've been waiting on you. I'm back now. I just I told you I had to get my head screwed on all the way I'm back. I'm gonna drop work work. I just dropped the uh mic drop uh On state to drop that shit Look who's dropping music. So he got that shit Yeah, that's it coming. He got that shit. He already dropped some shit That shit out Shit before we are in this I want you to because this is always a kid that you know, might be looking up to you or just Want to be a part of this drill shit and you will survive you a nigga that's been in this shit since 2010 2009 Niggas been seeing you on the internet So what's the advice you would get to a nigga who or a kid who might be thinking about jumping off the porch or Following in your footsteps or doing some shit you thought of or some shit you did when you were younger What would you tell them? I just tell them all fucking do better than me like if you are shorty like a kid like Life and travel trying to Do better than me and make sure before you jump off that porch your man is fully made because this shit real This shit ugly My brother this is not no joke Get out the way and stay out the way man Like I just tell they little ass get money because you gotta have money to do anything in this world period Just get you some money man. Stay out the way. Stay sucker free win Stay hungry humble and keep that monster in you but Stay out the way don't do shit that I do But take my survival skill because I survived I did something good. I ain't did look at all everybody who did Both sad some of my brothers like the ops. They got so many dead motherfuckers And we got a lot of dead motherfuckers if you had three rules of survival in Chicago, what would they be? Don't trust nobody don't trust nobody don't trust nobody That's what is that do you trust him? That's why I was saying you got your hands right next to him Yeah, because he Now they'll be like he don't count those I've been through shit like Damn shorty like So you didn't show me lords. He's like, yeah All right, you showed me like damn we'd have been through shit together. You know what I'm saying? right from the dirt My dirt other than his dirt. So he was younger buck. So clearly we've been in post-holy life. So it's like post lords. He already stamped And solidified I ain't got a question. I ain't I can go to sleep. He could sit behind me in the car I'd be on my life See, I'm straight but you can't do that but everybody Just don't trust nobody don't trust nobody All right Pluck your shit bro for everybody from Fana who you are for first time. Yeah, man. My name was J. Lo man I'm from death row 120 man. I got a lot of shit dropping man. I just shot a video Shit a low shit. I just shot another video back to back I ain't gonna lie. I'm finna get the dropping crazy man. What fuck is this shit ain't nothing man This shit coming and they're looking to find you where they find you like shit instagram. Shit lj low 120 YouTube lj low shit I ain't gonna lie. We really finna be dropping like I'm gonna even to drop everywhere. It's coming Lock in with this shit though man. I got some shit that these people could be this shit finna be a movie man A real movie. Shit already a movie this shit A real movie And I'm still on that though I'm in BAMDHM Get down and lay down. He's still with that shit. He said but I'm but I'm I'm out the way though Push your positivity though. I'm out the way man. I'm give me some money. Leave me alone. Leave me alone I'm on me. Leave me alone For real leave me alone. Let me let me stay out the way man free bands home Leroy home Big dog on there free goes we man leave me alone. We don't I ain't know that man. I want some money. Shout out my bitch I ain't I want some money. They got ain't no nothing These niggas be in the way. That's why these niggas dying I'm on these niggas be tripping, but I got the we got some work. We got some work with this music shit So what's your message to the people out there before we wrap up? Can't get a hill from the drop made 23rd folks from the drop some shit I'm gonna drop king of the hill and I'm from the drop of alcohol tate That bitch would be crazy. That's for the streets and yeah, I got that shit coming man On the way Come on, man. Let's get it Flip shout out to flip appreciate it shout out to rimo Hey, I don't want for a rimo man. It's an important story. I'm glad we got to tell it Long over dude. I've been on it man. I've been on it I've been on it. Y'all been hearing these goofy ass niggas tell these goofy ass stories. That's what got me pissed off. Y'all been playing me Like I'm more That's why we got to hear from the horse's mouth this time man. You get to know what I'm saying. Yeah, crazy So, um, I appreciate you dog No jumper coolest podcast in the world. 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