Stavvy's World

#173 - David Sims and Griffin Newman

121 min
Mar 23, 2026about 1 month ago
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Summary

Stavvy's World hosts David Sims and Griffin Newman from Blank Check podcast discuss movies, relationships, and life philosophy. The episode features caller advice segments covering herpes transmission, household chores in relationships, moving in timelines, and sexual preferences, interspersed with discussions of Batman films, RoboCop sequels, and the filmmaking careers of directors like PTA and the Russo Brothers.

Insights
  • Communication about relationship expectations and sexual preferences should happen early and directly, not through assumptions or racial stereotypes
  • Moving in together should be driven by relationship readiness, not external financial or logistical pressures, to avoid relationship deterioration
  • Studying complete filmographies of directors reveals that even master filmmakers had early failures and learning curves, making their work more relatable and instructive
  • Lifestyle compatibility matters more than relationship stage when deciding major life steps; waiting until you feel 'overdue' for a change is better than forcing it
  • Accepting your natural tendencies (messiness, hoarding) and finding compatible solutions (cleaning services, communication) is more effective than trying to change partners
Trends
Decline of superhero movie dominance in mainstream culture, with audiences fatigued by oversaturationResurgence of interest in older female-younger male relationships as culturally valuable narrativesGrowing acceptance of diverse sexual practices and communication about preferences in relationshipsDocumentary filmmaking as educational tool for understanding creative careers and demystifying successStreaming and on-demand media enabling deeper engagement with complete filmographies and director studiesMental health and therapy becoming normalized topics in celebrity narratives and creative origin stories
Topics
Batman Film Franchises and EvolutionRoboCop Sequels and Director's CutsHerpes Transmission and Sexual HealthCohabitation Timing in RelationshipsHousehold Labor Distribution in PartnershipsSexual Communication and ReciprocityFilmmaker Career TrajectoriesSuperhero Movie FatigueAge-Gap RelationshipsMarie Kondo and Minimalism CultureMel Brooks DocumentaryPTA and Marty Supreme Film AnalysisRusso Brothers Career PathNew York City Rental Market Impact on RelationshipsAction Figure Collecting Culture
Companies
Booking.com
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Netflix
Mentioned as platform where Marie Kondo's organizing show was released and later documented her struggles
HBO/Max
Platform hosting Mel Brooks documentary and various films discussed throughout episode
Dreamworks
Animation studio behind Shrek franchise discussed regarding potential sequels and voice casting
People
David Sims
Co-host of Blank Check podcast discussing filmography analysis and movie criticism
Griffin Newman
Co-host of Blank Check podcast; grew up in London from age 9-22, discusses film analysis methodology
Stav Malakian
Host of Stavvy's World; provides relationship and life advice to callers
Eldis
Producer responsible for screening and selecting caller questions for the show
Leonardo DiCaprio
Discussed for his movie poster collection and bathroom etiquette at film screenings
Mel Gibson
Discussed regarding Passion of the Christ sequel and filmmaking career trajectory
Christopher Nolan
Referenced for Batman Begins and influence on serious superhero filmmaking
Paul Thomas Anderson
Discussed for Marty Supreme and One Battle films; example of contemporary epic filmmaking
Russo Brothers
Discussed for career trajectory from indie films through Marvel to prestige projects
Mel Brooks
Subject of HBO documentary discussing his mental health journey and creative process
Marie Kondo
Discussed for KonMari method and documentary showing real-life messiness with children
Ethan Hawke
Discussed for Oscar performance and reputation as successful with women in Hollywood
Jesse Plemons
Discussed as deserving Oscar recognition despite stacked competition in acting categories
Quotes
"I think you need to have a point where it's like you both have a place and it gets to the point where your lives have melded so much that one of you is spending the night so often. And then it just feels like, oh, we need to do like, I think in big, in big life decisions, this goes career stuff for everything. I think it's almost always better to really to feel like you're overdue for something."
David SimsRelationship advice segment
"If you live in New York City, you're going to get pushed into that pretty fast. But I think that has actually torpedoed a lot of New York relationships. It's the classic speed bump."
Griffin NewmanMoving in together discussion
"Studying complete filmographies reveals that even the masters got to start something. Maybe even really great directors made weird pieces of shit or stuff that didn't work."
David SimsBlank Check podcast methodology
"I think there's nothing wrong with enjoying fascist filmmaking. We know what Cobra. That's fashion."
Stav MalakianStallone films discussion
"The fact that even after Blazing Saddles, people weren't sure if his career was going to work is crazy. When you see these legends and you're like, no, dude, they almost fuck up so many places."
Griffin NewmanMel Brooks documentary discussion
Full Transcript
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We are here with David and Griffin from Blank Check with Griffin and David. Truly my favorite podcast. What? Maybe my favorite podcast. That's insane. That's actually a bad idea. Your only favorite movie podcast. I mean, that'd be nice. I'm trying to accept that. I used to not watch, it would just be sports and movies. And now even sports has fallen away from my life. Really? Just because I'm so busy I can't keep, I feel like I'm fraud. You're on the road, you can't, right? It kind of feels like, it feels like I'm hearing somebody describe their kids that I don't know. When they're talking about the last couple of drafts I've been completely out of it. I'm like, I'm squarely like, sort of like up until 21-22, I was so hoop stuff. You knew everyone on every team. I went to a Nets game recently and they played children. Their team is children. I know, the Nets just drafted like, yeah, it's all, they had like five draft picks. Yeah, and so I was like, I don't know, any of these guys. They have a guy called Wolf and when he hits a three they go like, ooh. That's fun. It's so funny. It's kind of fun. That was the five. There's such a fake team. And I like going, I like going, I'll take, listen, if you got tickets to spare, I'll take them. But let's be honest with what's going on culturally. It's impossible. I went to see Wemby. I was not there to see the Nets. The Nets are there. If you, if you cannot get the next ticket when the traveling guy, like I've seen the honest play the Nets a lot. 100%. You know, like I've seen, when there was like people I really wanted to see. That's what it's there. And listen, stadiums or the arena is great. It's great. It's a good experience. I can walk there from my house. That's great. That's huge. But yes, it's, I, I have, I do, there was definitely, I will say this, there was a period in my life where I was going through a very dark moment. And here's, you know, I was thinking about this when I did your guys pod where I was like, how did I start listening? I gave you, I couldn't remember and I kind of made something up, you know, but what happened was you did say it was a dark moment and then you made up a fake dark moment to fill in the gap. But how I got to you, because it was a dark moment where it was moments where you can't be with your thoughts. So you need an evergreen, just shatter in your head. Idiots. I call those all the time moments. For me, those are just called crisp moments. That's like me where like, do you ever do the thing where like, oh, I got to walk down the stairs right now. I think I need to listen to a podcast while I do that. Because I don't fold eight shirts. God forbid I think of something while I'm doing it. It goes all the way down to it. I just wash my hands. I think I got a cue up a podcast to do that. It gets really pathetic, but you know what it was, and this is actually even funnier. I was going through a dark moment and I have a few movies that I see as sort of like reboot myself when I want to, I'm actually saving. I'm saving myself, right? Because I haven't even earned. That's the highest level of reboot movie when I, when I'm sorry, the first, not creed to creed, the original, the original creed, but that's like a, uh, because to me that's like when I'm ready to really get my life in order, when I've cleared everything out, I'm watching creed every day and getting fucking, you know, like I'm not even, I have to go to PT. Find yourself. Yes. I have to be in PT so I can relift the real weights. So you can probably do steroids or something or like peptides. Like I'm going to, I'm going to really whatever kind of crazy rich person like medicine to make you young. I'm doing it. Right. Whatever it is. I don't know yet. That one tech guys sons blood. Oh yeah. That tech guys. You're going to steal his son. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to throw a piece on Brian Johnson's teenage son's penis and I'm going to put that blood right into my veins. I'm going to watch creed. How incredible will it be if Brian Johnson's like guys, you all made fun of me, but it turns out it is the cure for everything. My son's dick blood is. I guess he didn't explicitly take his son's dick blood, but he did measure his dick against his son's heart. It was like number of erections a day or whatever. I always jump to the same thing. I always describe it as his son's dick blood. But I'm doing any of that and I'm getting on. So then you get to watch creed. Usually have seen creed. Of course. But, but, but you're now you're like, but now I'm like, it's so powerful. Heat is a celebratory movie that after we filmed my special in Austin, we watched, we did mushrooms had a barbecue and coming down, we watched heat because he's a little sad in the perfect way. It's good for it. Good as it come down. Kind of. It's a nice melancholy. Absolutely. A tragic tale of Wayne Grove. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's sad for you because Wayne Grove doesn't make it. You're rooting for Wayne Grove the whole time. I really, I'm very haircut forward when it comes to who, when it comes to who I identify within a movie. Yeah. But, and so a lesser, a lower level creed reboot movie for me is Dark Knight. No, I'm sorry. The original Batman begins. Batman begins. Batman begins is my favorite. And I watched it as like a, I'm beginning like Batman. You know what I mean? It was like when I got so fucking fat, I was like, I moved to Baltimore for a year just to like walk around, eat turkey burgers and walk around. That was like my rehab. And so I spent like, and then I got begonia and I had to leave Baltimore because I was like, what? This is crazy. Right. But I still spent like six months. You were like, I can't be a movie actor who lives in Baltimore. Like you just. Like I told my ages, I was like, I am not doing anything this year. Yeah. Don't unless it's like, and I gave them a list that was hilarious. Right. Like Scorsese. You know what I mean? Like, like literally, it was mainly like to, to say stop emailing me with, you know, like random offers. The roles of like a fat guy who like, you know, shit's his pants and act two or whatever to set up the hot people. You know what I mean? Like you make it all the way to act two though. That's not that. That's true. That's true. That's true. If it's not the inciting incident, but you, you literally were like, I'm not getting off this couch. I have five scenes in a movie directed by an Academy Award nominee. I was like me and like a Plemons, like kind of someone who's the best actor. This is even higher than what I was pitching them because I didn't even fathom this being something. So I got that and it was obviously like, oh, well, this doesn't count. Right. I have to do this. Right. But there was like, like six months where I was really to fattish it. I mean, I weighed like 70 pounds more than I do now. Fucking all I could do was walk gingerly and honestly. And I watched Batman Begins and I watched every movie. I literally loved that movie so much and it was hitting just right that I searched every movie podcast that has ever covered Batman Begins. Right. And that's, that was actually how I got to it's also really good episode of ours. It's great. It was really punch. We're really, we're being silly. We talk about how Mark Boone Jr. looks like he sleeps in a pizza. What are your best lines at? Because he's just so greasy. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a role I definitely could play. I could walk in the role. Yeah. Absolutely. The guy who Batman is like, you represent Gotham's corruption. Yeah. Like at the lowest level. Yeah. Yeah. No, I see that guy and I'm like, come on man. This, when, when they come up with this one for the fucking Pattinson, they got it. They need a guy like this for Pattinson. Oh yeah. Let me be him. Pattinson needs to, right, interact with Morse gum in Batman 2. That is interesting. The Pattinson one has a lot of. It's kind of like criminals. Classy gangsters. Yeah. Right. And it has a lot of corrupt politicians. Yeah. And the pizza cop is an important. Yeah. He's kind of a hero of a Batman mode. Yeah. I love that guy. That guy's in Memento too. He's the guy who rents him multiple rooms in the motel because he's like, you don't have a memory bro. Yeah. Yeah. I just keep renting you new rooms. Yeah. That's fucking awesome. I love, I will say about the Pattinson Batman. I really loved it until they had to make it clear that the Riddler was bad. Yes. Because until he just does like Harrison. Harrison straight up. Right. He's kind of completely correct. That's what I like in that movie. He's completely correct. Right. Where he's like, he's killing the right people. Yeah. All the politicians are bad. They're all corrupt. He's putting in the papers basically. And it's like, until they get like the, once he like, you know, goes like, goes Columbine at MSG on their fake AOC. On fake AOC. Like they made like eight things to be like, this is the bad guy, by the way. Yeah. Because he seems too fucking awesome and reasonable. Right. And you almost get the sense that if Pattinson, when he's, when he, when Batman is talking to him, if he's just like, love what you're doing, bro, but we got to dial it back. Like there was a moment where the Riddler wants to be friends with him and he's like, listen, don't kill the Wayne family. I think I got a mole inside. We can deal with them. You know what I mean? Especially because the Riddler reads him and is like, I get the sense that you also hate Bruce Wayne. You got some weird, and he's like, bring up Bruce Wayne. You get kind of touchy. We can bond on this. Of course. That movie annoys me because I should love it. 90% of it. And I like like it. It's like a role. It's like it looks so good. I think Pattinson's great in it. Even like the whole. Zoe Kravitz is out of control. She's a babe like. It's the second hottest time she's ever played. It's got Colin Farrell doing Italian. She's also the voice of a cowboy man in the Lego Batman movie. Oh, of course. Oh, that's what we get to do. Body. I could see you as a guy who's jacked off to Lego's Griffin. Not yet. You've definitely jacked off to an action figure. There's no way you haven't. I didn't say anything. He called him a finger. He called up a finger. He can read anything you want to a finger. I'm sure it's coming up. You have the psychiatrist, the child psychiatrist, and the Simpson's action figure. You're in the bathroom and Simpson said, I got to see what the Simpsons figure is. And I said, that is historically one of the worst selling action figures of all time. I've been in this game long enough and charting things. That thing was a pox on store shelves for like five, six years. Who would want the psychiatrist? I got it because it was stupid. Because it's the psychiatrist. And if I'm being completely honest, I thought it was what's his face? Martin Monroe. No, no, Lisa. The that's not the least the substance. Lisa's substitute. Doesn't play by the off. Yeah, I thought I just like looking at it really quickly. I was like, oh, that must be him. And then I realized what I bought. I was so I was a little pissed because the doesn't often one is kind of touching. Yeah. And it's an episode that stuck with me. That's my favorite episode. Can I nerd out for like 30 seconds? Please. So these these go ahead and grab this. Grab the thing for us. So we show the audience. Brad Goodman. So everyone can see Brad Goodman and it's Albert Brooks, right? It's like the one of the Albert Brooks. But it is like of all the Albert Brooks characters, it is far and away. The least known. Yeah. He is one of the love and he's also visually so unappealing. Of course. He is just a guy in a sweater. So these action figures talked, right? They had really stated the art microchips in their feet. And then if you plug them into an environment like on the back, you can see the retirement home. Wow. In case he was never in. Yeah. He has lines. He works at the DMV, the retirement castle in Main Street. So when they started, you could build like a town, you could. Right. And when they started making these, they had a deal with all the main voice cast. And immediately people are like make Troy McClure and they're like, we don't have a deal with the Hartman estate. We can't do any of the guest stars. So they worked really hard to build a separate deal structure for the guest stars and put them in their own guest star only series. Wow. And they had an Albert Brooks deal. So they were like all the Albert Brooks characters are on the table. They made a Phil Hartman deal. This series was supposed to have Rabbi Kristofsky, Jackie Mason himself. Yes. And he pulled out at the last second because he thought it was offensive to Judaism to make a rabbi action figure with a plastic Torah. So they had to overproduce this guy. Oh, so hard. To fill in the gap. Wow. And they were just like, I don't know, maybe we just flood the shelves. People buy it. Sad kid got handed this. No, no. Yeah, yeah. Every store had hundreds of him and no other care for even like disaffected deadbeat parents are like, I don't think this is right. Because the rest of the lineup, Troy McClure, Banger, Herb Powell, Danny DeVito. Oh, that's a good one. He's a good one. But he just looks like Homer. He just looks like Homer with a Homer, but the voice Joe Montaña, Fat Tony, one of the greatest Phil Hartman, Lionel Hutz. We're like, we're dealing with like all stars. And then, of course, Albert Brooks's Brad Goodman. I don't know. Hank Scorpio. They did get around to it. They got it. But that was the big mistake as they put this first. Wow. All right. So that's that's the kind of lore I got. Sorry. Mr. Love. Yeah. And then I don't remember saying you asked me about masturbating. It's my fault. Putting an action figure near him. It's my fault for putting an action figure around Griffin. Yeah, we're in 100 yards. I'm keeping my hands up. I love when was your first? What was the do you was there an action figure? You were like, oh, fuck. I need this fucking thing when you're like four. Oh, what's there one that really? Because you're a big. I mean, you're a movie. You love action figures, comics, all this kind of fucking. Yeah. Dork bullshit. Yeah, absolutely. I got no rebuttal. You part of me being on this is like, I'm the cool one. Yeah. When it comes to really, even though I also had action figures of red comic books, but then also the magic of our podcast is we throw a Hosley in there and he's actually right. Got in trouble and went outside. And yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he like got grass. Yeah, he like got a bike. He used it wasn't like the first one, but one that I was hyper fixated on finally got with small soldiers was small soldiers. Huge and brick bazooka is the I think it's the George Kennedy character. Oh, yeah. He's sort of the blonde guy, but I love that was a girl. I love that movie. And furthermore, I believe Burger King created the Western cheese burger. Correct. As a tie in the rodeo burger, the rodeo burger with the barbecue. Sauce and the onion rings. And I remember both seeing that movie. That might be the the fast food tie in. Was it born nine or George Kennedy? Who's that I remember the most? I'll get there. Yeah, the Batman. George Kennedy, the Batman forever. The cops. So the cops are classic. Yeah. Yes. My mom still might have the Mr. Freeze somewhere in her fucking. Yeah. Those are fucking awesome. But those are the ones are. And by the way, I fucking love the Batman, the Batman's that the Schumacher Batman. Yeah, just made by an insane gay guy. Yeah, of course. It was rock. Who loves fucking over the top shit, the nipple suits. It's awesome. We we talk about this a lot because we've covered all the Batman movies at this point one way or another one way or another. And at the time, it was like the sentiment of like, but Batman and so many other things and they keep doing this cartoony bullshit. Yeah. When someone going to take Batman seriously, who wouldn't give him integrity when Batman begins comes out? It's a coup d'etat. We did it. He's a real human being. Totally. Crime is scary. Yeah. And now just every day we're like, can someone make a dumb Batman? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Darker, like literally you can't even see. Well, they're doing that shit too. I mean, they're dude, the Superman shit, the superhero shit. Yes. It's like the broth is fucking thin. They have fucking chopped all the meat off. Now they're boiling the fucking bones. They've boiled them eight times. It's like rocks. We have fucking cartoons of everything. Yes. Everything gets a funny cartoon like DC is just doing fun. It's like enough of this bullshit. And I do. I do hope it's fucking it's over. Yeah. I think it's mildly over. Yeah. Like we'll still get a couple of year, but it's not. It feels like it being the dominant thing in culture. The thing that grown-ups have to talk about. Is that would be over. That would be awesome. Totally disappearing. No, but last year they were like Superman and Fantastic Four. And people were like, yeah, those are for teenagers. Yeah, that's going to be the way like there was like they kept making westerns, but nobody gave a fuck. Like if superhero shit feels like the westerns for us, because like you go back to the fucking you look at the movies that were made in like the fucking 40s, 50s, 60s, like a lot of fucking westerns. Yeah, westerns. And then it became the thing where like what will happen in like 40 years is someone will make like an unforgiven. You know what I mean? 100%. You know what I mean? Like and we the super movies are never gone. Yeah, they're never gone. Yes. But I hope they're fucking done with this bullshit. It's like, yeah, let's get some guns. But it's like 70 year old hamper. The fucking guns and guns in there where it doesn't bounce off a guy. But on the other hand, I don't want serious people shooting guns at Batman anymore. No, no, no, no. Medians. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love I should be able to shoot a gun at Batman. Yes. You know what I mean? Oh, fuck. I feel like again, we should be like, oh, it's a fucking batch. Oh, shit, I'm fucking getting out of there. I'm at a strip club. You know, I got titties and cake in my mouth. Let's really make it slapstick. I do love that one first guy in every Superman movie. Yes, but I'm going to one shot. Let's see what happens. He's a man right here. Yeah, bullets at his skin. So this works. Yeah, I don't think I'm like just going to represent how strong he is. That's why I'm here. I think I can get this guy. I won't be made to look the fool. I can take him down. No example. But yeah, so that's my hope anyway. I don't know. I'm done with that. I'm so fucking was your favorite movie last year. Of last year. I mean, non-Bagonia. Non-Bagonia. You put me in a real movie, I'm going to say. And I really do think, by the way, Plemons was, and we should say programming note, folks, this is after the Oscars. Right, this is the Oscars. This is the Oscar recap show, but the Oscars have not actually happened for us. We're time-capsuling our predictions as recaps. We're coming off of Bagonia sweeping everything. Every category. Came out of nowhere. They actually wrote in Jesse Plemons. Right, Plemons actually won. It's the first ever write-in. You're like, sit down, Ollie, where's Plemons? Which he did get robbed. I think he should have won. The reason he didn't get in that category is because it's the most insanely stacked. Like, it's just, and like, listen, he shouldn't have gotten in, but I'm just like, the competition is crazy. That's fucking bull. Look, look, all right, who, come on, to the very one out. Blue Moon was fun. Blue Moon was fun. Ethan Hawke gives a good performance. Ethan Hawke, one of the most legendary pussy-getters of all time. It's true. Right? There was a period in Hollywood, like there's that hilarious Matt Damon anecdote, where he was saying, like, there was a moment in Hollywood when every leading man, everybody's in the same auditions, and then they would see Ethan Hawke come out of the room, and they'd be like, fuck, lost that one. Like, Matt Damon was, he was the boogie man to Matt Damon. Right? He was like, he married Uma Thurman, cheated on her. That's how much pussy this guy got. And he gets an Oscar for playing a 5'3' guy who can't get pussy. That's what he, that's what we're fucking rewarding him for. It's like, and I know it was good, but it's fucked up number one. Yeah. You know what I mean? Isn't there a 5'3' bisexual that could have actually played that role? The answer is a 4. Oh, now we're talking about representation. But all of a sudden, it doesn't matter if a 5'3' Oh, a 5'3' fucking theater obsessed bisexual, who has a complicated relationship with hot women, but fucks a lot of guys. You don't think we could find an actor that fucking, that it's balding in 5'3' that could have played that? Stavie, you find an actor who does that. What are the chances that they also understand depression? Yeah. That's the real question. Right. I mean, it's an acting challenge. Because he talks like, what would it be like to play a fucking loser? It's like, he can't even fathom what a fucking loser this guy is. He's thinking about it. But they even said that, yeah. They wanted to do the movie for 20 years. The link layer would still be like, you're still too hot. Yeah, no thank you. And it's like, and there, that's the one where I'm like, great move. He's, even I got an honor because he's the man. Yeah, everybody loves him. He's the man. He's the man. But get the fuck out of here. And that's no disrespect. He's a legend. I love that guy. So funny though. But get the fuck out of here. That's PLEMEN spot. And by the way, I think he should have fucking won. My favorite move to answer your question though, sorry. Yeah. Probably the secret agent. That's so fucking true. It is so good. Yeah. It's so good. It's cast so well. It does like, you know, it you want to talk about real faces. I was about to say that has the most guys. Yeah, I felt like a documentary in the way that's like and and a time, you know, I mean, Marty's Supreme and credit like I the little a little I've gotten distance from them because I think my favorite movies this year were Marty Supreme and one battle because because of the experience of seeing those movies where it's like going to one battle opening. It was one of those roles like I don't need to know anything. Yeah. And I don't want to know anything. PTA Leo signed me the fuck up. I'm going first day. I'm going IMAX big at the biggest fucking IMAX. Right. That experience of getting out of there. You're you're like, holy fuck. Yeah, I just watched a Hollywood epic. Yeah. That they don't it's a because it really it's a fucking Mello. It's an old fashioned movie. It's some shit that could have been made in the 30s as far as I'm concerned where it's like a fucking high stakes family melodrama, right. Intergenerational movie movie. It has every genre in it at the same time. Totally. And so you you leave that and you're fucking buzzing and you're like, holy fuck, movies exist. They're awesome. They're real. And then Marty Supreme for me is just like, I know I just I can't even be by. That's your language. Because it's like it's your love. That's me. Yeah. Yeah. In my 20s was a piece of shit with a stupid dream. Yeah. And I thought it was more important than everyone in my life and I was wrong. Yeah. And I'm by the way, I'm paying for it. There's no there was there's no like like I Marty Supreme to me was so I'm Marty Supreme without the sort of spoilers, obviously. But like, you know, so if you haven't seen it, you know, fuck you. I'm giving you an extra long spoilers break because that's the kind of fucking good guy. I am. I'm famping for almost a full minute for you. You fucking piece of shit. Elders flash something on the screen that says spoilers about to begin. He has the most like I didn't even buy that he would give a fuck about his kid because in my 20 if I would have a kid, you're like, OK, well, my life fucking over. I just I have to go to New York. That's what the movie is. No, that's what I mean. My third out of love, but also because he knows his life is completely. I think the ending is so interesting for that reason because the one in orgible thing is that this is something emotionally he is not equipped to contend with. Yes. He is realizing how bullshit his life has been up until this moment. And I like there being a kind of ambiguity to like, how does he fucking react to this? Well, who is he tomorrow? I think you're right. And I think that's probably the best sort of general read, like it covers the most basis reading of the movie. But I also think seeing it a third time, like the first two times didn't even the kid didn't fucking matter to me at all. I didn't you're like when's he going to stake O'Leary? When's he getting Mr. Wonderful? Exactly. He's like, move on to Japan. He beat fucking Koto. Now it's time to fuck up. And I'm like, yeah, but no, like you're still not reckoning with like, oh, table tennis didn't become the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he doesn't win. But I will say the third time I was like, no, this is power. Like also it's like this is hollow. I'm at 37. I'm 37 now. I'm not, you know, Marty's age is like 25, whatever. And it's like, I'm realizing now, fuck. I've gave too much of that shit over. And I think in a lot of ways he was saved in being able to be a complete person where he gets the victory that's emotional and important to him, which even in an exhibition beating Koto is what fucking matters to him. And to me, that's the moment I cried. Yeah, I did not get again, didn't cry when the fucking baby comes out. But when he beats fucking Koto, I'm like, fuck. Fuck, dude, that fucking piece of shit won't let him in the tournament. You know what I mean? Like I'm so mad at that little fucking Indian guy. To me, he's so good as Sean Penn. You know, he wanted Gordon Ramsay to play that guy. That was his original idea. But then he found that guy exactly. And he was like, this is way better. This he was way better. Yeah, he was just like, I was looking this guy up and he just said like an all again, shout out to fucking Jen Vendetti. Like she's the fucking I mean, they've always find incredible people. So those movies to me were like just the most just appealed to me for one battle, almost like general movie. This is spectacle. I love that we're movies are real. That's how it is. Yeah. And then what Marty is just like, this just is so me. It's a recipe feels like being in my 20s. But also seeing that kind of like a film making sensibility of movement, a kind of collective collaborators. Yes, who have totally no, no, contemporaneous with us. Totally level up to epic level. Yes, it's nice to see them like exactly because without even knowing it, like because again, I cut movies for me. It's like I watched some as a kid, but it was like I didn't really track directors. It wasn't sports for me. You know what I mean? And the safeties without even meaning to. I was kind of organically on board with their career from, you know, starting with, I mean, when somebody showed me good time. And then it's like on cut. And then the guys that made that got something going with Sandman. Of course, I'm fucking listening. And then both. I mean, I even really like, I mean, smashing machine got fucked like ticket wise. I fucking love all. We all like that movie. I thought it was fucking awesome. Yeah. So it was it was cool to see from that level, too. It was cool that it's like, oh, these motherfuckers keep making awesome shit. But yeah. But having said all that, after seeing a lot of them, and to be fair, I still have to see. I still haven't seen it was just an accident. I actually bought it. I think I like was way too stone to. I was like, this deserves me listening. And then I watched RoboCop three instead. And I got to say RoboCop three is awesome. Stavi, I agree with you. It's just crazy. Very anti two, but pro three. Two is fine, too, though. Can we I can say we're going to do it on our podcast this year. The RoboCop series on our page. On our page. RoboCop basically my favorite movie. I might have to get in the mix. You can. I might. Well, because I might need a little support in the defense of three. Oh, if you want, if you want to cook the books. If you want to put if you want to if you want to stack the deck. I loved it. So I would love to be. But even to two might be interesting, though, because I love to as well. Griff doesn't like to better. I'll give you my analogy. You've never seen one three. I've never seen the sequels. I've seen the original. And you've never seen the remake. Yeah. And I think the same way. And the first one is so sacred to me. Of course. Well, the first one. I've probably seen bits of the sequels on TV. Because they were always on cable or whatever. Yeah. And I hold the original in such esteem. It's the only thing that I was like this about where I was like, I actually refused to watch the sequels. Wow, because I want to retain the purity. I'm usually such a completist piece of shit. Sure. And finally, I think I can't remember if it was in lockdown where I was like, fuck it, I'm watching them. Right. And I watched two and I was like, this is just kind of worse. Robocop. But Robocop. And it bumps me out. He's like Robocop. He shoots people. Right. I'm a little less precious about it. Robocop so good that a shitty retread of it. Is still like a B minus. Right. Like it still goes down smooth. He doesn't like that Robocop is like back to being a Robocop. That's what I don't like. You know what I mean? Oh, it does. The victory is gone. Yeah, because at the end Robocop, he's like, what's your name, son? Murphy. Yeah. He's like, really, I'm Murphy. And then yes, Robocop too just sort of. How much back on his name is Robocop? He's shooting people. It does the same shit all over again. Right. And yes, the now Tom Noonan's awesome. Noonan's incredible. Because he's the villain, right? But even the rest of the I would say the rest of the game. I don't want the game. Not as deep. The like everything with Kane is great. Who's the villain in three? Three. Oh, three is kind of awesome because it's like now now it's bringing globalism in the mix. It's the one Frank Miller kind of worked on. Right. He worked on. So he wrote a script for two. For two. Then they like scrapped the pieces of what he wrote for both two and three. OK. Oh, yeah. So you can read. They made a comic of three is more interesting. Three is much more interesting. And Frank Miller, I don't think his thing was perfect, but like he had a little bit of the Verhoeven humor, which I think too can't totally dial in. Commercials and two are good. But even in is good. Even then the commercials and we don't have to get it. Like this is so fucking funny. Yeah. Well, we're just like getting into the minutiae of RoboCop. I just want to see the psycho sequels. You ever seen the psycho sequels? No, no, no. They are weird. The thing for me with three just watched it. Yes. Is like everyone's like that one's PG-13 and it's like. Right. You don't feel it. It's not even Peter Weller. And I'm like, at this point, if we're watering down RoboCop, I'd rather water it water all the way down to the dumbest bullshit imaginable, where at least it can have goofy fun. Sure. And he fights like robot ninjas. And then he has a jet-fly. At the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that shit. I'm like, no, to me, it's the difference between like having a high end steak, a steak at a diner. Yeah. And that's a good point. That's a good point. And I'm like RoboCop three is a big Mac. That's fair. Right. Here's what I'll say. I don't think RoboCop two is a steak at a diner. I think it's a steak at fucking chilies or TGI Friday. Sure. Where it's like, you know, we're still just barely edible. Sure. If we went because I do think it's it has enough. Again, RoboCop is so good. RoboCop is like one of the best. When you get a shitty ribeye, people. You can still cut the little fatty parts and eat that. That's still good. The middle middle meat might not be so good, but there's still some good as shit in the phylogy because it, you know, will be with a lot of fatty parts. Got some awesome, some awesome stuff in there. Yeah. But but some stuff you need to clear off the plate. Totally, totally, totally. But we won't. We will stop talking about RoboCop sequels. Where are they in? Plant the Oscars this year. Care member RoboCop three in the middle of a cop three. Yeah, it's being. Yeah, they're doing that. They're starting best sequel from the 90s. At two. We give you more. More outfit choices with 20 kilograms of luggage allowance as standard. More hotels built around what you love like that swim up suite. More race you to the bottom water parks on site. More. Oh, that looks good. Food options from poolside snacks to ala cart dining. Book on app in store or online. You book it to resort it. At all and after protected keys and C's apply selected hotels only see website for details. May I share with you, please? Because you were talking about your one battle experience. I can't remember. I've told you this story. I don't know. I certainly haven't shared it on Mike. This feels like the most appropriate place to share it. Yeah. I ended up having to take a last minute trip to LA. OK. And I had tickets for one battle in like 70 a member of the armed forces made you jack off at gunpoint. Exactly. So you're going to say they got your dick card. Yeah, I joke. That's the one time I've worked off to an action figure. It was an action figures demand. I, you know, like I was like, I got to get the right tickets for one battle. And then suddenly I had this. Because it was all like you got to see this. Like opening night and whatever. And then I had to like give up my tickets and I was like, fuck, I'm not going to be able to see it. Right. In LA, I remember this. It's like I have extra tickets for the vista. Yeah. The theater, Tarantino. I love the vista. Opening night 70 millimeter. That's awesome. And I'm like incredible. I go, I get there. It's the screening that the Caprio. Right. They're there. And they're doing a video and he is like directing. The crowd on how to line up and the clip went a little viral and it's like, I'm literally the last row. And that's happening in the front. And I was like, this is the best way to see this movie. This is perfect night. Yeah. But the Caprio comes out and makes a speech. He's like, this is my childhood theater. I love this place. My dad took me here every weekend and my parents are here tonight. Whoa. And he points and they stand up. You have told me there are two rows directly in front of me. His weird hippie parents. Yeah. He has his dad and his stepmom are like, like, so I saw. Because they were extras in Once Upon a Time. And they just looked. His dad's in Likers Pizza is like a water mattress. He's like a weird, crusty Hollywood. And they look like they're from the 70s. Underground comics guy. And it's the dad, the stepmom and his biological mother are all there. Right. And so I'm watching them watch the movie. Right. And it has this sort of 40 X thing where you're like, right, this movie is so much kind of like DeCaprio playing his parents. He's so paying homage to his dad. Just imagine Leonardo DeCaprio's parents. Right. Watching a movie just the way like, I wonder how my son, I wonder how my son Leonardo DeCaprio did in this movie. And I'm truly like, I'm watching them watch the movie and tap each other. And it says, if it's a school play, that's cute. You know, they're not like, of course, our son. They're just sort of like, this is funny. Right. I think his dad's the one who's texting. I'm like, fucking get those old bitches off, dude. And be honest with his dad. It was like, dude, nice, dude. I see who you're up. I see your date in these days. So halfway through the movie, my friend, Derek, who goes to see it with me, gets up to go to the bathroom. And then I see Leo's dad get up and walk out immediately after. And I'm like, oh my God, they're going to be in the bathroom together. And we'd already, it's been pointed out. I said, that's so funny. That's DeCaprio's dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Derek comes back out, followed immediately by DeCaprio's dad. And I was like, you were just, I don't know if you noticed, you were just in the bathroom at the same time as him. And he goes, yeah, he took a big shit and didn't flush. So we watched the rest of the movie. That's fucking awesome. We watched the rest of the movie. You just can't shake this knowledge? Like, yeah. We were watching the rest of the movie and 30 feet from you. Different room. Leo's dad's log is just marinated. There is a DeCaprio log. You're in the back. You're in the back. You're close. You're close. Maybe he might even be over some. Yeah, no, I've been to that theater. You're in the back. You're really close to the bathroom. Watch the rest of the movie, right? Yeah. Movies long. There's at least another hour. You go with a bowed griff, went with a fucking ziplock. I was about to say. Griff, at least. Maybe I can make an exit fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Geto Pat made out of, get made out of Leo DeCaprio's father's real shit. It's so hard to find a demerit. Shit. So sit through the rest of the movie. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the end, I run into a different friend of mine there, Morgan. And I'm like, Hey, how are you doing? He goes like, I got to tell you the funniest thing. You're going to love this. My girlfriend went to the bathroom before the movie started. She comes out. She's like, some woman took a giant shit in the stall and didn't even flush. Who the fuck would do this? Then we sit down. They come out to do the intro. DeCaprio goes, my parents, they stand up. His girlfriend goes, it was DeCaprio's mom. Are they just both of his parents? They don't want to waste water. Did I get that? Did I say? Yeah, I guess that must be some hippie shit. Yeah, that's awesome rules. It's awesome to do that. And it's like, all right, listen, if you're at home, yeah, you want to leave shit in your fucking like, you know, come to your life right into a box that you're like broccoli stocks go into. It's fine. Hello. Fine. Yeah. But at the fucking public bathroom, it's insane. Son's movie be shown. And they are like an audience. They are the most visually distinctive people. Yeah. And you have an image, Google DeCaprio parents. They're crazy. I mean, God bless them. It's awesome. It's the best. Coolest shit of all. And it is so funny that they made like the hottest person like of the 90s or whatever. Yes. That's fucking beautiful, man. It was incredible. Wow. Yeah. No, a couple no flushers. That's fucking awesome, dude. That's a beautiful way to see it, though. That's fucking awesome. Wouldn't it be great if we heard like, you know, all the like DeCaprio things with her like, oh, he like vapes and keeps his headphones on during sex and whatever. No one's been like, he's got some weird thing where he never flushes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He likes to, he likes to feed women until the point they have to shit. But he won't let them. He's like, he's like, he does like shit BDSM. Sorry, it's clogged. Sorry. Wasn't me. Oh, I bet you need to take a fat shit, don't you? I bet you just want to leave it in the bowl. What you can't. Don't rich guys like him have mansions with like 12 bathrooms. So he could like go from one to the other. He could. I wonder if he's a mansion guy. I don't know. Is he a mansion guy? I don't know. We don't know much about him, which I respect. I already said this in the other podcast. The only thing I know about him is he has the greatest collection of movie posters. Really? That like if you go to his house or whatever, he's got this like, like five star incredible anti-collection movie posters. I respect that. It's just incredible. It was the Nikki Glaser joke, but that this guy has been so mega famous for like 30 plus years. Except that he fucks supermodels. From the second, we get like past 98, 99. We've learned no new information other than, I guess he cares about the environment. Right. He likes electric cars and he dates 25 year olds. What we've gotten is yes, but here's the thing. Even the 25 year old thing, the more you like kind of understand how media and things work. It's like that fully could be fake. Totally. There's just his dates to things. Yeah. That could be like we just want him to look like a play, but we don't want him to know his real. It's honestly Bruce Wayne-esque. Yes. Where it's like Bruce Wayne is out there getting his dicks up to, you know, in the middle of the restaurant. He's feeling Bruce Wayne where we're like, yeah, we know this guy, right? Totally. And then you're like, huh, has he ever said a human thing in an interview? Yeah. And it's not that I think he's lying or like diverting attention. He's making us think that he's not hiding anything, that he's just like a guy out there. He's just like, I love movies. I make movies. Yeah. Which I get. You do. Yeah. I get that. But you should come on. I bet. Yeah. Leo, come on to Stavisville. I bet you've been waiting. Or Leo's parents. I'm waiting for the invite. Leo's parents might be good. I would love to have Leo's parents. Yeah. Can't you listen? Go to the bathroom before you get here. But you're welcome. You're welcome. Before you get to the studio. But if it's yellow, you can let it melt. Absolutely. They're in good company on this side of the room. That's true. Sometimes a flush doesn't happen all the way. The first one of the first podcasts we did in our little makeshift. We're in the makeshift downtown studio. This is very funny because you guys are seeing. We have we've upgraded the couch. Maybe are they catching the rug at all, Eldis? It doesn't matter. I don't know. The point is this we're putting the chronologically. This is the last of a batch. Wow. So they're going to see a lot of the shittier couch before. But this the first one we did with Eric Andre, Eldis had just clogged the bathroom. He was clogging the toilet. In my defense, it was like one of the first times I came here. I didn't know how bad the water pressure was. Had a finesse. The flush is when you're there and there wasn't a plunger here yet. But just to clarify, that was not for lack of trying to flush. You just did not succeed in getting it done. Yeah. I have an Australian friend who told me that a turd that won't flush. It's called a Grogan. A Grogan. I've never forgotten it. They love weird little slang. And I don't know if that's true. Grogan means like it means like your butt, right? No, I think that means like a that's like a type of white trash. Oh, yeah. That's John Hamm's character in Trek four. Oh, really? Hansa Moger, Brogan. Oh, Brogan the handsome. That's kind of funny. I haven't gotten there yet. I've never gotten a Shrek for it. I haven't gotten before either. Are they making five? Yeah, big time. Oh, yeah. You're not in there. Not in it. That's actually a song. That's a little fucked up. Or you're being really canny right now. Oh, are they? Oh, they're making a Shrek. What's the number? Are they going to take his family to a diner? An ogre diner? Bro, there's an ogre diner and I don't do the voice on Shrek five. I actually will be fucking pissed. Storm Dreamworks. Yeah, I really look. I'm doing OK. If maybe if Shrek comes on a couple years, I'm in. But I'm just if I see a diner. Yeah, if I see an ogre diner, if Shrek's gonna piss me off. Dude, if I don't if I don't serve fucking Shrek, Swilaki, I'm going to be pissed, dude. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see how fucking goes. Fuck, that would be fucking awesome, dude. Anyway, what are you going to do? That's like, you know, for now, you know, not I didn't see the four though. Definitely saw Shrek in theaters. That was a Shrek in theaters. That's Shrek two in theaters. I left it there. My daughters watch Shrek a few times, but she didn't stick with Shrek's. Like so she thought it was OK. How old was your kid? Just five, five. Yeah. OK, that's a fun age to like be introducing. It's the best. Yeah. And now every animated movie I saw goat. I saw hoppers. I'm like, oh, we just go to we go to the nuts. That's awesome. She loved goat. She goat. Yeah. It's pretty good. Wait, is that the Steph Curry one? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Interesting. All right. I'll give it a whirl. But you so you saw it in theaters. This is a very and this is a funny thing about what you like listening to guys podcast because I just kind of jumped around through movies. Right. So you're at different points in life. So it's very funny, like pop in and out. But I do love that the joke that you eventually had to ban about you living in England. Yes. Where everybody would pretend they were surprised. I just got it was funny. Why do you get more and more pissed off? To the point where you weren't even kidding anymore. Like, stop fucking bring it up. Listeners agree that that was funny. Yeah. No, that's crazy. Is it would come up organically in like every because it's like my life because you're talking about when you saw a movie where you saw it. Right. Yeah. Like my entire adolescence. So many of the directors we cover people who are like 90s. Yeah. Right. Right. Coming of age for us. And so I start doing the bit of being like, that's like I've heard that before. Yeah. Right. And you did for our listeners, you grew up like you were born here. I was born in New York City. You're a Manhattan kid, right? I'm born and raised. Yeah. I was born. Maybe the most. He's the most. Yeah. You looked that to such a hilarious. I am a little man. It's like you look like a little guy. Like you weren't even allowed to grow because you're in a part with no son. You know what I mean? Like it looks like physics. Yeah. Not only do you appear with your style wise. But like everything about you is like, oh, that's a guy who grew up in Manhattan. Right. Right. Which is very awesome. I love that about you. It's very. I'm working through it. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's great. It's an awesome to be. But first of all, I think it's awesome to be a guy. You know, to be any guy. I don't know. I'm just a big one. It's a big win. So that's huge. It is. It is so funny that growing up with other New York kids, they would be like, you're such a fucking New Yorker. Yeah. Like you're like, you're the same as me. And they're like, you're more. You're the one who embarrasses us. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's like that any in any kind of group, you're doing the stereotype. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, if like, if like, un-Asian happens to be bad at driving, other Asians are like, come on, man. That's what they say about us. That's what they say about you and like talking about action figures and movies and shit like, you know what I mean? Like that's like multiple different groups. Yeah. Like make it a little bit less of a layup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I the bit heightened obviously from like being like, I haven't heard this before. What age did you go? I moved to London. So you grew up here, though. I was born in New York. My dad's English, though. Oh, OK. What he died, but he was English. He was shouldn't have been dealing drugs, dude. I saw that you got fucking gunned down. Elderly British heroin addict slash dealer gunned down in the streets. No. But my dad like got a job in England. So I moved to London when I was nine, lived in London, then went to college in Britain. Like, oh wow. I was 22. 9 through 22. 13 years. 13 years. But you were old enough to not even get a hint of. I got the accent. You do. When I went. And if I go back, it comes back. It comes back. But I sound, I always say this, I sounded like Madonna. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just sounded like some weird kid who was sort of American, but just like had the British idioms. Sure. And the whole thing of moving there was I was just like. Fair play old chap. Not like that. Not like that. But I moved there and I was just like, I'm nine years old. I don't want to get made fun of. Like I'm going to get made fun of. You'll say some shit in front of these nine year olds, like eraser, the word eraser, to mean something to rub your pain. And they'll be like, what the fuck did you do? Because they called a rubber. A rubber. Yeah. And like, there were a million pitfalls like that. I just had to learn how to avoid it. I'm like, I just don't want to fuss over me. Of course. And I got really into football. You know soccer. Soccer. Footy. Just to prove. Just to have the language. Here's how not American I am. Yeah. I love football. But it's also sports is the easiest way to talk to people. 100%. So like you just like I got like deep into football. That's one of the most like general pieces of advice I'll give to you because we have a lot of absolute fucking losers that listen to this podcast. Impossible. Because that's where we all, by the way, I'm not saying that disparagingly. Time is a flat circle. I was once a the version of me that listens to this podcast. I listened to whatever the equivalent of this was when I was an 18 year old fat loser. Our podcast exists because we didn't know each other at that age. We just had these conversations with nobody. Of course. Of course. Like on a message board or something. It's true nightmarish. And I want to say, all the dorks out there, and Griff, it's too late for you. It's over. It's settled. Just some learning baseline sports talk is the most useful small talk in America. In America. I can say as the person who does not have the ability, I could not agree more. Exactly. Talking to other men. But also talking to like anyone like at a restaurant fucking, you know, like just a guy on the street. Like it's just most people can talk to you about sports. 100%. And it just is a quick thing. Father-in-laws. You know what I mean? 100%. Like just a scary older guys of any kind. Father-in-laws. It's like sports and like what roads I took to drive to your house. That's true. The older you get, it can be like traffic patterns. Take the Deegan. I'm like, no, I took a procter. Yeah. All right. Whoa, interesting. You know, usually they're always working on that left lane over there. You know what I mean? Meanwhile, I go to sports bars and I'm like, so do you know they actually overproduced the Brad Goodman action figure because it's funny. Jackie Mason pulled out. Yeah. Yeah. What's funny about you, Griff, too, is that like I would assume that you, your fan, knowing not, not knowing you, right? Just when I was like, you know, listen to the podcast, that you, your family was just like four versions of you. Very much. You know what I mean? That it's like, that you just assume it's going to be like, oh, everyone, it's like a cart. It's like millhouse's family. You know what I mean? Right. Everybody sort of looks like you, but just like different heights and shapes. I believe I use the term to David this week, rug wrap parents. Yeah, sure. Every rug wrap parent is like a reverse version of your. Yeah. So, but it's funny because I did very randomly when we met, I met your dad simultaneously. Yeah. Yeah. So I might have actually touched your father before I touched you. Well, he touched you. Yeah. He came in for a hug fast. And it was a wrestling, like a grapple hut. No, my dad, which I love about. My dad's greatest dream in life was to be a sports broadcaster. That's all he wanted to do. He was like, he was a wrestling kid, but he's, he's a little kind of being a little guy. You've got to go wrestler if you're going to be a athlete or I guess jockey. And he had, you know, but I think he was a little too like broad to be a jock. Yeah. And he's like more built than I am. And he had the wrestling thing, but it's like, there's not a professional path to this. Yeah. And he was like, what do I want to do? I literally want to talk about sports for a living. Talk about a guy that would have loved having a podcast. Yeah. Truly. Oh no, he was born out of the wrong generation. Absolutely. Yeah. He, because he finally like, he got a shot eventually to do a TV, a local TV broadcast. And he was like, I can't stand being on cameras. Wow. I hate this. Really? He's Albert Brooks in broadcast news. He's sweating the second they turn it on. But what he did leading into that is he worked for a company called Sportsphone. And Sportsphone was for gambling addicts of which he was one. Obsessive betters on games every night. It's like a 1,900 number for fucking gamblers. So it was like, tell me about your parlay, big boy. Should I take the spurs under tonight? It's crazier than that. It was, although that would have been a good business. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, if you have a lot riding on the games and you can't wait until the papers hit tomorrow morning. We'll tell you who won the night. To know if you've ruined yourself. Right. It's a prerecorded message that you call up in every hour. They update it with the current score. So it was like the sports center tracker, the like ticker before the record. So it was a prerecorded, like vocal message. That's awesome. You know, voicemail line where he was precision Pete Newman and he got to try out like the voice. That's incredible. And his lingo and he was like, and this is the stepping zone to being the guy on camera. Wow. And then he just collapsed. He was like, oh, it turns out I hate doing this. But it just. Time to pivot. Which is interesting though, because it's like, and then your brother works in basketball. My brother is the general manager of the men's and women's teams in Sydney, Australia. Wow. With the Kings. Yeah. And it's literally like. The NBL. That's right. Yeah. And I like I and I'm like, oh, is like Luke Longley involved. Yes. Andrew Bogan involved. I believe so. Yeah. Like it's like every Australia. I think Matthew Delvedova is on the team. Yeah. Player coach Matthew Delvedova. I think basically. That's fucking awesome. Yeah. That's so. So you were based and so the rest. It's just interesting to think about. Yeah. So every it was your family. It was like your dad and your brother were sporty. And then it was like there must have been like. What about your mom's side? What's that? My mom worked as an actress for a while. And then got really frustrated with it. And was like, what if I have a normal kid? Of course. And then. And then all worked out. She went what one for three. I don't know how many. They're all weird. They're all weird. OK. I mean, here's what I always like. How many do you have? How many? Three. There's three. My brother's the middle and every younger sister who works in food. It's very much like a Royal Tannenbaum's family. We're rather than being five mill houses. It's like everyone's a main character. Yeah. Everyone's got their own kind of game. They all got some fucking insane bit. We're here like, oh my God. I mean, I love this family. They're all great. They're all great. Totally. I mean, your dad was so clearly like a little guy who needs to be hanging out with a giant guy at all times. Well, he's clearly a Timonan Pumba. Like most of his life is Timonan Pumba. So like just a back film. Because he immediately came to me. He loves you so much. Yeah. Right. Because we. I loved him, dude. He's welcome anytime. So I was doing. In fact, I would love to do a fucking bonus set with your dad, dude. You could get that. Precision P. Precision P. We were doing. Doe Boyz had Gabris and I come with them to DC for a live show. Yeah, that's where we met. I happen to be hanging out. And you were like, oh, I'll come drive, overcome, see the show. And then you end up doing a thing on the show as well. And so my dad, one of his childhood best friends, had just passed away. Oh, right. You guys were there for the funeral. Right, right, right. Gonna be in DC the next day. I already had this plan with the Doe Boys. And I was like, if you're getting in that night, do you want to come see a comedy show? I think you'd like these guys. And it might be like a nice kind of relief. And not this friend who had died, but like his all time best friend, who is my godfather as the first kid, Big Howard. Big Howard. Who was like the Timon and Poon, but that's his giant. Yeah, yeah. Heavyweight wrestling buddy. That's awesome. Who's really kind of Gabris adjacent. Totally, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's looking at the boisterousness and the life of the party thing. And so I'm at dinner with my dad. And he's doing OK. But I'm like, all of this is he's working through a lot of one of his childhood friends dying. I'm like, let's go back to the hotel. We're going to meet the other guys, then walk over to the theater. And we walk into the lobby. You, Gabris, Mitch, and Weigar are all lined up. Weigar's the smallest guy. Yeah, and he's already six, whatever. And he almost starts crying tears of joy. And immediately just like those guys. He literally starts wrestling me. I don't know the guy at all. That's so crazy. He's trying to lift you up. Oh my god. He was fucking awesome. It was awesome because we stabbed right into it. Yeah, fuck you, you fucking old piece of shit. You're not going to get me. He's like doing this thing. And Gabris and Mitch and Weigar had known for a while are like, this is the piece I was missing and understanding it. Right, right, right, right. It's funny that he's like you, but with this added energy. And then since then, I don't want to say that he's become your biggest fan. But you have become the thing he is a biggest fan of, period. And he said to me recently, it was a good time to learn about me. Perfect. That was exactly what all this other shit was popping up. Yes, right. So he feels like it's crazy. This is everywhere. But we also were walking like four blocks from the hotel to the theater. And guys kept on like dapping you or high fiving you. And he was like, how do all these people know who he is? And I was like, he's a big deal. And you were also in your home turf. He thought it was just a fun fat guy. Which that's why that's that is part of him being a friend. Which is that he was who I am. Right, that's why that's that is the stone. That's the bedrock of everything. Right. At the end of the day, you take it all away, dude. I'm still a fat guy that's fun to pretend to wrestle with. His favorite kind of person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said to me the other day, he was like, it's crazy how big Stavie's gotten. I open Instagram, every post is him. Yeah. It's like, do you know how algorithm you love him? Right. Anytime Stavie shows up, you like it. You name in your sleep. It's 90% of users are posting. Of course, that's 90% of if only we lived in that world. And there's so much to talk about too. I mean, we'll get, we'll have to take some calls, but you know, maybe you'll just have to bring precision. Pete back, dude, because easy. Because I mean, his obsession with competitive eaters is incredible. The fact that he's a gambling addict is awesome. And we still are. Has he gambling? Yeah, I think he stayed pretty. He's like tough to be gambling. Impulses have transferred into other areas of his life. It's not literally cheating on your mom. He's cheating on your mom. He was, he was your dad's heroin selling partner. He fucked him up. He's a three card Monty. He's running the con for others. Fuck. Well, yeah, we got to have both of you back. And, and we do have to talk. I, if we can, the problem is I'm gone a lot, but I'd love to talk RoboCop three, if we could figure it out. We'll figure it out. There's no, we'll get you. But, but we should take some calls, Elda. So why don't we, why don't we see what our, you know, our gentleman here, we, we, we didn't even mention, Sims, you're a father of three, which is like, cause you had twins, right? And that's, that's what my parents do. They wanted two kids and they got completely, they got one than two. They got one. If they'd had two, no chance they had a, no, of course that's, that's so rare. The only reason I'm reacting is like, you never meet people like that. Now I'm, my kids in school, my, my five year old, you know, I'm meeting other twin parents and I'll sit and I'm like, oh, I have twins. And she's like, they're like, oh, she's a twin. I'm like, no, we got twins after her. And the twin parents go like, oh, that's fucked up. Jesus Christ. It's like, you got, you had like, like a, you got dealt 15 at blackjack and you're like, all right, I'll hit. I'll hit. I'll hit. And they're like, give me, give me, give me everything you own. It's all gone. It's all gone. Fuck. I got greedy. But wait, but yeah, but I have three kids. Do you, why are you bringing this up? Well, just because, just to show the complete, the kind of psychological mastery, the different, where the context that this advice will come from. Absolutely. We still essentially a child in almost every way. I would say. And then, and then I'm kind of right in the middle here, but so just letting, letting our guests know that they're, that's who you're getting some, that's who you're getting advice from. A nice wide swath of lived experience. Right. And don't most people just call in and be like, I jerk off all the time. Like, what do I do about that? We'll see. We just did a couple, we just did a bunch of pods, you know, cause we have to kind of record. So we're getting like the dredge. Well, we have thousands of calls, but eldest is horrible at his job. So he probably, what happens, this happens all the time where if we do a batch, you just see the degradation over time where it's like the first three episodes. It's like, whoa, these are great questions. And the fourth one's like, by the end, it's like, um, I got a knife and I'm thinking about using it. My mom's been looking at me funny. And then it's like, so anyway, here's your legally liable for this stuff. It's only shit like that by the end, but let's challenge eldest. He, now he did get here over 40 minutes early to prepare. So, and the set of takes 45 minutes, but that's another thing. No clock toilet. Well, no clock toilet. That's something. Well, let's see, you know, I'm like, you should hear today. Hey, that's good to know, man. Hey, well, let the people, let's let the people decide. Yeah. Okay. I saw the, um, I just called and I talked about my story. So I'm calling back anyway. Hi, stop. Hello. Hi esteemed guests. All right. So I am married to my husband. We have been, I'm married to my husband, whatever. Jesus. I've been married for about a year. And, um, the past like year or so, my husband's been getting a lot of cold sores. And, you know, of course we were trying to be careful about kissing and all that shit. Um, I've gotten cold sores since I was a kid. So I wasn't really worried about if I got it. Then, you know, we just deal with it. And I take some meds and call it a day. But, um, this last weekend, I looked at my pussy. Let's just be frank. And there was, uh, some blisters. And, uh, to my, my, my shock. Yeah, it's tough. I show my husband and he, we immediately went to the thought of, okay, well, how the fuck did that happen? He came to apologize. Oh no. Fuck. That could have happened. And there's any way that could have, right? We, we both aren't sure how it happened, right? We're both confused. Let's crack open a book together. We're trying to figure it out. Right? Same pace. Yeah. Okay. I don't know whether to be mad or not. So yeah, I know my storytelling is fucked up and crazy. Hopefully that made sense. So he could just let me know if being mad at him is justified or not. So crazy. The people call it. Yeah. I know it's a trade thing to say. Yeah. I know. I keep throwing and she's like, I should go to the doctor. She's like, call a friend. I think Stavie first. Right, right. Throw that in the bucket. Okay. Sorry. No, no, no, you're right. You're absolutely right. And thank God they do. So that that's the lifeblood of this show. Of course it's the engine. I understand. How much we've been zapped of community and places to talk to a neighbor trusted acquaintance. That's gone. Instead just yell it into a tree. That is right. It feels like these people trust you more than just running it through in their head one time. And you know what? During the first basic logic experiment. And I'm happy to say it. Now why would I have, right? I hope that a lot of, because we're not gonna get to every call. I hope that it's kind of the first step. Because when you say things out loud sometimes, it clarifies it for you. Because I've had that with people who have called in and you kind of even sense. You hear them processing. They figure it out as they explain it. And she just realized for the first time that she's married to her husband. She's like, I'm just being married to my husband. I am married to my husband. I thought she was about to say for how long? 20 years. And then she's like, for one year. And I'm like, okay. So it's, you know, it's in memory. So basically what's happened here, hopefully. Here's the read, right? I guess. And it seems like they are, it doesn't seem like she has any worries about cheating. Like immediately where it goes to my head is like, oh, he's been getting new cold sores. And now I have herpes on my pussy. It's like, the fact that she didn't immediately go, my husband cheated on. If you really, if this guy just has had cold sores on his mouth his whole life, and you as a couple decided it's pussy and the clock, regardless, you know what I mean? These things can happen. I don't know. The question that demands a question, that is, that's the one step that's being skipped over is what did contact happen between those body parts within a window of time. But she also says that she has had cold sores a lot. If this is not a situation where you are scared that you've been cheated on, and this is fresh herpes from someone outside of your marriage, and it's just the fact that you and your husband both get cold sores on the mouth, and now they've transferred to your pussy, that's tough. Go to a doctor. See, I believe they are different types, even if you can get them on both parts, and one outbreaks are more serious. I don't know shit. As long as you are not scared of cheating, and hopefully I didn't just put this in your head, and you didn't at all, then this is, I feel like you both fucked up here. If she's calling in, isn't it like a 5% fear of cheating? There's at least the ambient. But you're right, it doesn't sound like she's like, and also there's a weird thing on his credit card bill. We're also, he keeps sending weird texts. My read is, if she already had any pre-existing fear of cheating, this would be viewed as, unfortunately here's some evidence, he's stacked onto that side, right? And her calling is almost, am I crazy for just dismissing this? Purely as physically, do I need to say this out loud? Test, am I worried about cheating? And it felt like in her being like, one year married to my husband, maybe it is fine. Maybe I'm not worked up about it. How many callers do you get though, where the answer is just like, oh, you should go see a doctor. See you later. Like in every call. Including this one. FYI, I'm not a doctor. I can Google some shit for you if you want. Every call it's like, go do a doctor, lawyer, psychiatrist. It's one of those three, it should not be me, but you know, try and within those, at least push them in the right, one of those three to go to. And you haven't had a turn yourself into the police immediately called yet. No, no, no, no, no. I think Eldest knows good enough. Well, there was one where we had to cut cause someone was like, straight up discriminating against their tenants. We had to just cut that. You had Hannibal Burris on the phone? He's like, did you watch Broad City or not? Uh-oh, looks like somebody's rent is getting jacked up. So look, if this is simply, should my husband have been more careful about getting his mouth herpes on my fucking pussy? Then listen, yes. But maybe. And you can be a little annoyed, but it takes two to tango, sister. You both know what the fuck is up. And if it's a contained, if it's just the two, I don't know. And if you're not cheating. And if you have like a lifelong proclivity towards cold sore, that's just, you're just playing with fire. Totally. In fact, I say, if you're with someone, I've had a friend who was dating somebody with herpes and had to wear a condom every time with his wife. Yeah, I think that's what it is. That's insane. Get herpes. If you know, just throw in. If you know, and look, that read. Is it one of those things where like everyone has it or something? Yes, I think in general, the herpes thing. But then it's like there's different kinds. I think in general, it's like way overblown. And it's, even when you have it, it's like you can get medicine or whatever. It's not that big a deal. But in this case, if your question is, should I be mad at my husband? Yeah, I guess. But also you have him, you let him meet your pussy with the cold sore. You thought you were bulletproof. You know what I mean? And it's just not true. Maybe you should be mad at him anyway though. Just about something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mag him. I would say now that you're married, stop having sex with him. Cause that's how you're supposed to behave. What? Exactly. What's the problem? Having sex with your husband after marriage. Haven't you seen sitcoms? You haven't seen it according to Jim? You have to only trade. You have to use pussy as a weapon in a marriage. And only during a sweep sweep. And only during a sweep sweep. Right, right. Woo! Come out in a fucking teddy that covers all your ankles. What they thought was sexiness and network sitcom is so good. Still standing. Oh yeah. Elders are big still standing. Yeah. Oh yeah. Wait, which one was that? Was that the one? That was the one with the King from Game of Thrones, right? Yeah, Mark Atty. Mark Atty. The second Prince. Oh, that's the one I liked. You liked the one with... Yes, dear. Yes, dear. Elders was a huge yes, dear. Your CBS was just like, keep making those. I don't give a shit. We need one on every night? Yeah. It was so bad. I just remember like I would watch it after school. They'd show reruns at like three p.m. Bro, you watch it during college. You would throw it all in college. High school, college. I definitely... It was in the rotation. It was just easy to watch. It went down easy. Elders loved everybody loves Raymond. Okay, so here's my question. Cause I literally... Still standing. No, no, no. Yes, dear. Back and forth. A coworker asked me, cause she was sort of writing about the like the heyday of the Apatow kind of like. You also are a movie critic. You're the hot girl. I am a movie critic. But she sounds me over and she's like, okay, okay. So like obviously there's these examples. If you have somebody who wants to talk about hot women, fat guy. I should send her my way. I start calling like, well, yeah. Cause there was like according to Jim. Yes, dear. Still standing. And she's like, okay, but King and Queens being... That's the one she was citing, right? King and I was like, yes, people know that one. Then she was like, does Raymond count? Like in terms... And I was like, no, really. Raymond's kind of hot. It's a completely different set of... In fact, his family is the fatness. Like the like... Like Peter Boyle and the Adore Roberts and all that. The whole idea is that the man is like underneath the woman and she has to deal with him. But also it's like this sort of like message, this implicit message that like, this is what relationships look like. The woman has to settle. She has to put up with his bullshit. She's dealing with her dork. She's gotta be a doofus. Fat doofus easily, physically, she's putting up with this horrific body. He's fucking stupid. With Raymond, she's got a good job. He's like a good sportsman. He's a sports writer. There's never money problems in that family. In fact, there's always kids. Kids, kids. He has the same dynamic as you. I know, he had an older daughter, twin boys. It's his family is the thing she has to overcome. They're the weight. They are the weight. They're the stupidity. That's why it's a better show than the according to chance at the world. A more complex show. The mature... It's a good show. It is very good. I loved it, obviously, but it was never in my like... Maybe because I was a fat doofus, I just loved... Give me a fat guy, get him pussy for my house. King of Queens. I have a joke in my act about it too, where it's like it really was... I don't want to go into it too much, but it was like those shows are bad for fat children. They're really... They're giving you way too high expectations. Don't worry about it. They're a Raminis just around the corner. They're gonna horse you all the way back around through that door. But that's what I assumed was happening. Maybe if I... Anyway, so that's the answer. Give us another question, Eldis. A-star. Jay from Canada. What's up, big candy? I got a little bit of a dilemma. Been with the wife almost ten years now. Okay. We're thinking about having kids. One problem I have... I have to tell her to do her chores around the house like a kid. Like I'm the only one that's fucking thinking, oh, well, I'm done with the play. I should probably take the play out of the living room and bring it to the kitchen. Oh, yeah. I'm done cooking my meal. I should probably, like, I don't know, wash the pot while it's still warm so the stuff can get out. Oh, I'm the only one in the house that does her laundry once a week. Damn, dude, relax. We're not her. Should we have a larger conversation before we have to do it? Yeah. Or is this like... Because this is a big thing. I don't know what to do, man. Also, for your information, very perky H-Cups. Very perky H-Cups. Well, there's your answer right there, pal. You want her fucking doing chores with those heavy-ass tits strapped to her chest, dude? What do you want? You want to have back problems or you want to enjoy those big fucking hangers? You sure tits are so big she could take it easy on the chores, actually. That's actually really instructive. That actually really does change my opinion here. Perky H-Cups, brother. That's fucking... You hold on a... Listen, you got to do a little extra for breezing, a little effort of swiffering with those fat tits in your life. I think that's a fair trade-off. You are glowing right now. I see you tricking them. And there's a sparkling. I'm thinking of my... I'm like, dude, I'm thinking of I had a wife with huge tits like this. I'm like, I'm hiring a cleaning lady and fucking my huge titted wife. That's the solution. But look, I see even in Canada, the economy's not so hot. So we'll... Maybe not ruin the budget for a chore, dude. I got it, I got it, sure. Okay, so first of all, shout out to her. I love when we have a sloppy woman. They don't really get a representation. I'm so envious of her. I mean, yeah, I mean, on paper this song. It sounds pretty... She sounds a lot like me. I'm also like, I want to watch this sitcom. Yeah, it is a good sitcom. Because we flipped it. We have flipped it. Maybe we need to do this more. The Queen of Kings? Yeah. Yeah. Kings County. She's in Brooklyn. Nobody knows. Yeah. Look it up, folks. It's actually Kings County. That's true. Which is, yeah, it's a great name. Kings County? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of wasted on Brooklyn because Brooklyn gets two good names. Two awesome names. You never call it Kings County. Probably you probably have some like really annoying burger restaurant. That's just like Kings County provisions. You know what I mean? Like that probably exists. Kings County in Jury all year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, anyway, back to the matter at hand here. You are, as the father, this feels like a question you should really field in terms of the added messiness of children. I would say, or so, right. And what have you been going into having? Yeah, yeah, kids. Like number one, you should build a bridge of communication with your wife. Clearly this guy needs to talk to you. Right. Like this is pissing him off. He's so pissed off. You can hear it. He's grouting. Maybe fucking while the pan's still warm. It's like, we don't need that level of specifics. He's seething. Yeah. Like, all right. They've been married 10 years. Yeah. So do they get married young or something? Like, I guess. OK. Because like you're talking about just, they're just starting to think about having kids. Like, OK. It sounds like he's probably somebody already. Like if I had to guess, somebody gets married in their mid-20s, they're in their mid-30s, and they're like, hey, it's shit or get off the pot. Time and it's, they're probably making the decision of, are we going to have kids or not? Yeah. Just kind of how I read the situation. So I think like, have kids. You should go for it. Why not? What else are you going to do? Sure. Maybe have a few conversations. Just a, just, just conversations. I'm not saying she needs to start doing chores. Right. I just think this guy maybe needs to talk to his wife. I think, yes, in general, the bigger thing out of all this, I think you're right, is, yes, talk about the, I think it's fair to talk about like, chore stuff. Sure. But more important, it's talk about when stuff pisses you off. That's it. You need to be able to address whatever elephants in the room for you. Especially because kids, you're worried about your house being messy. You should be even more worried about like the, like, you know, the metaphorical messiness of your relationship. Yes. If you throw kids into the mix and you can't even fucking tell your wife you're annoyed at her, how she, like the distribution of chores, it's been a decade. Yeah. And you haven't fucking brought it up. That's way harder to bring kids into than like having to, having clean up a little bit. Yeah. But the second thing is if mess pisses you off this much, which might be what's going on with this guy, true, if you're good, your house is going to be fucking messy. Yeah. So like get ready for that. I guess. I don't know. Like that's a good point. Like the dishes won't get done as fast. Like if there's a kid around, of course, like cheese pot every night. Yeah. You're just probably eating out of the pot, a perpetual pot of mac and cheese. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's what I should have. I should have a cauldron of it. You should have a cauldron of it every night. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking Annie's for everybody. I think all the time about the sort of follow up profile on Marie Kondo like a year or two ago. Uh-huh. Where now that she has kids and she's like Jesus Christ. I don't know what the fuck I was talking about. Fucking hurricane in my house. Truly. There's it was. It was true. It was a big photo of her surrounded with shit all over the floor. And she's like, that was a cute idea. Yeah. Right. Well, yeah. I understood that. Say goodbye to your t-shirt. Like when you brought away. But that is my grandmother's ashes in a landfill because of you, Mary Kondo. Didn't bring me joy. Now you have eight. Hello, kiddies. Plus she's on your fucking couch. Oh man. That's very funny too, because it's like I do. I read into that too. And it's like that's clear. That just did not take that. She was not successful in Japan. Yeah. Because it was I think it was just like people not understanding Japan and being like, well, we must honorably clean our homes like those samurai. Like that. That was kind of the vibe when she was coming around. Yeah. And like in Japan, they're like, everyone's a hoarder. They don't really give a fuck. Like truly they're like, this is fucking bullshit. So that's funny to hear. I didn't even know that even she herself was like, what the fuck was that? That was bullshit. Yeah. When did that come out? There was like a year or two ago, if you can find this. No, that was long ago. The original. The original. Yeah. The theory was like 10 years ago. Right. Was it? Yeah. I remember when it. I mean, I remember her sweeping the fucking nation. But I remember. It was early 20s. I was still living in Netflix. 2019. 19. Yeah. So not even 10 years ago. Yeah. I was I was still living in bedside because I remember my girlfriend now wife like did the thing. She's like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to open every drawer. I'm going to say goodbye to the sweaters. Like I'll give them a hug and then throw them away or whatever you do. Yeah. I think I could use. I do come from a long line of hoarders. Right. Like my on my dad's side, my fucking aunt loves bullshit little figurines from your mom. You know what I mean? Yeah. You've been on your video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My dad is kind of a hoarder. Like every week and I have it and I feel it. I don't want to say for you like what do you want to hoard? I I I mean probably once we started on the bus you as movie guys you'll appreciate this. We have a type of movie that is a bus movie. Yeah. And so it's like it can't be too good. Yeah. And it's not sometimes they're blue rates, but mostly they're just low I know these you have a big stock of DVDs primarily are these the bus. Those are bus movies we have. I also have a separate thing of like actually good movies. Sure. I can see myself just kind of collecting that but it's duty. It's just I just have sent I attached sentimental value to bullshit. Sure. You know what I mean? And it's just like a hard world. I can't throw this away. Yeah. I fucking had a good time in this shirt eight years ago. I got it. And someday I might lose 100 pounds and fit into it. I have that. I have the aspirational clothes. We're like I'm gonna I'm gonna fitness. Yeah. There's a garage in Queens with four fucking plastic tubs of like track suits from like five XL to one X. Yeah. It's like hmm. I wonder where I'll be next winter. You know what I mean? It's like where I'm like yeah people like look like they did when they were 20 again all the time right grow older. Right. Right. Right. Like I'm like I don't know at least you will before you know it be giving that to your children. Yeah. I have no I have nothing. I have nowhere to give you to like a university. That's true. They'll collect. Yeah. Yeah. Tovros archive. I'll give you yeah I'll lend some of my tracks it's like this is going to be reatric surgery. Yeah. And it's like they need like if if the hospital gown doesn't fit you I have some fucking tracksuits you can wear right preparing for although I guess you know I will say if if ozempic and the and GLP ones in general have done anything they've kind of stolen the stomach stapling the oh yeah that's gone. It's surgery. You want major surgery you want to just like do this yeah yeah yeah so maybe that is it's not become like blackberry phone yeah yeah yeah I know I feel bad for the people that got like there's one last guy that got bariatric surgery. Has no time because happening. Yeah right. Sorry for those guys. All right I think we answered the oh yeah that's yeah have some communication. Sounds like you're mad as fuck. Also like couple's there be nothing wrong with it. Also you might just have you might be the cleanup guy. Yeah. Like look that's sometimes it breaks down that way no matter what relationship I'll ever be in or whoever like I will I even when I'm trying my hardest I am an insanely messy person same and the first thing I did like like there was one month where my therapist went on vacation and I just put that money towards a cleaning lady and I was like this is so much more helpful to me than fucking talking right it's like and so like to me that was a thing I did even before things like when I when I had roommates I was like guys I know I'm not gonna fucking I just know I am not yeah so how about every like twice a month I'll pay for a clean lady and it was just like because I just know I don't have that awareness. Yeah negotiating the balance of like if this is my zone then what are the things you're doing. Yeah you know. I think we know. I think we know his wife's bringing to the fucking table. Absolutely absolutely. No but yes obviously. But like maybe it's not like this is a relationship that can ever be built around a chore. Yeah maybe you are the chore. You're the chore guy. And there are other things. Totally. There's other divisions of labor. And like yeah you got again this is why communication is key because it's like fundamentally he probably doesn't want her cleaning the bathroom whatever because she's not gonna do the job he wants. Right. That's a good relationship or just even friendships where it's like a roommate situations where they're like where I did clean to the best of my ability. Exactly. And like you would not be satisfied. She was bad and it's like all right well get off my dick. Like I did it. I fucking did it. I wasn't even half-assing it. I did try. Right. It's not my fault you take a fucking toothbrush to the grout and shit. It's like I'm not fucking doing that. And I think that's a question you should ask yourself. Is the thing that's making you mad more that you feel like you're forced to do all of this by default or that you are made angry by the mess. Do you feel right? Is it that the responsibility is on you or is it the existence of the mess in general? Do you see every mess as her like insulting you? Or are you just someone who stresses out when you see a mess? Right. In which case then you ask bigger kids questions. Or you just say perky age cups to yourself. Which seems to be like his little mantra. He's repeating it. Like over and over. True. True. True. That's that would work. That's not a bad mantra. I think I don't think I could get a lot of meditation done if I'm just taking a big fat tits or I would or I would just be smiling so much. Maybe that I'll try that tomorrow. You're glowing again. Hit us with another question little LD. Hi, I got this new job but I'm having some issues with work by Boss's boss and his team are in Australia. And whenever we get on one of these Zoom calls I actually have a lot of difficulty understanding what they're saying. I'm always asking them to clarify and repeat themselves. And now they think I'm a tool idiot. Right. And I don't understand anything and they keep taking responsibilities away from me. So I don't know what to do. Should I speak up and say that it's really just I don't understand their accent. Of course. So fucking funny. Take less responsibility. I actually do have an answer to this. Yeah, go ahead. Thanks so much. I know what I'm thinking. Please go ahead. Zoom sucks. This is a Zoom issue. Fuck Zoom. You think Zoom sucks. I mean, I think the solution is you need to watch Australian media. That's exactly what I was going to say. Just a diet. Just watch a shit ton of movies. Young Mel Gibson. Yeah. You need to train your brain. But I also think maybe like find a pipeline to more email communication. Yeah. I mean, sure. I mean, he also slips in there like, should I just accept less responsibilities? And I'm like, I mean, maybe he sounds okay. You're kind of living a corporate dream. Where they're like, but he's like, what? And they're like, don't even fucking worry about it. How are you fucking down here? Right. But like get a little zoom-o. Trilogy. He can't hear anything on the zoom-o. Have you been down there? Very brilliant. We did a, we did a come-town tour a long time ago. And I want to go back. I want to go back this year, but it just didn't work out. I'm going to figure out a way to like, I need a year of my life where I spend, I have no winter whatsoever. So I think I'm going to spend. Just like stack summers. Yeah. It's across hemisphere. Honestly, I'm not even kidding. I might go, maybe I don't want to say anything. I don't want to get Australia too fucking pumped up. But I'd love to go maybe next winter. Like I'd love to spend like December there or like summer. There summer. Yeah. Yeah. Or even I went, we went in October and it was really nice. So maybe like November, but the following New York is so nice that I feel like, I feel like January, February in Australia might be fucking awesome. I mean, we just, January, February just fucking sucked here. Like that, that's, I love New York so much. But like those are the indefensible months. This was losership. This is the one year I wasn't on tour too. Yeah. Where I was, but in this part of the, in the part of the, was like in the past I've been on the West coast. Like last year we were on the West coast. It was fucking awesome. Like we, we needed light jackets. Most of it. It was so nice. It's so nice today. It's going to be cold against. Yeah. No, I have to do, believe me, the nice days in New York, I've spent fucking shooting or podcasting for nine hours a day. But I think you're right. Our jobs are great. What are we talking about? No, that's the broadest, most cartoony Australians. Yes. Yes. Don't watch the subtle art house stuff. You need to watch like crocodile. I think you need a range. I think why do you need a range? Where people are whispering. But I also, you know, watch the extreme stuff so that they sound really kind of directing clean to you. You know? And then I also think like, even like Australian TV, shit you don't even know about. You sketch comedy, whatever, like find, find whatever's, you know, who's that? Who's serious? Yeah. I don't know. What was that show where it's like a guy dressed up as like a high school student? Oh, summer high school. Isn't that Australian? I think it's New Zealand. All of that guy's New Zealand. You don't want to paint with a bra brush. I think that's nice. I think that guy's Australian and he has several shows. There's a lot of him, right? All of them feature at most only two blackface countries. It is one of those things when stuff travels from another country and they're like, this is our humor and you're like, Yeah. Interesting. Oh, no. Mr. Inbetween, is that Australian? Or is that? Maybe Australian. Is that New Zealand too? I don't know. That was good. I watched that. Wasn't the allowing of wood. Dog show Australian. Find some Australian media and watch it. Wilfred Wilfred. Yeah. Go on it. We're doing Peter Weir on our podcast right now. Nice. And those early movies of his are Australian. They're very Australian. What are the early ones? What are the early ones? It's like Gallipoli and Cars of the Eight Paras. Cars of the Eight Paras, Picnic and Hanging Rock. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I've just heard these. The last wave. Yeah. Like all that shit. And then he like goes to Hollywood and is a king. Like just but doesn't do Australian shit anymore. Totally. Yeah. Australians love pretending they were American the whole time. They're so good at it. They just admit like honestly, Hemsworth is the only one who's really kept the accent. They all lose the accent. William lost it. Yeah. The Mel thing is crazy. Especially watching his movies. Nothing else about him is crazy. That's why it was so regular. But it is funny because it's like he really feels like an American racist now. Yes. He like embraced it wholeheartedly. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Which is like he has because like Australians are also very racist. Yeah. But they're a different type of racist. The racist people in there. He's a classic American. He's a continent. Yeah. He made him such a megastars. He figured out how to synthesize both. He did. He did. The Australian and the American racism. Really ashamed we had to lose. I mean dude honestly. You want Mel back? The I'm telling you this fucking whatever is like passion of the Christ too. He's going to make it's going to destroy. It's going to destroy. It's like a fucking Kevin Sorbo movie will make a hundred million dollars. It's a turn of the king. It's going to be insane. He's identified a healthy market. He probably should have gotten it out like last year. Like I would like maybe it's curdling. But I think it's too hard. Is it a two part or a three cast? Cavizle. It is also funny that he's like part two. I don't think it's a two part. I think it is the continuation and he's announced it's now a two part. It's going to be. It's Christ back right Christ back. He's back. Okay. I mean honestly the story the some of the biblical stuff about like the one the Messiah the Jews thought they were going to get sounds awesome. Yeah. Like to me I'm like I want to see the movie of the Messiah that comes from hell. Right. Kills the devil. Right. And then comes up and just fucking decapitates the road. Like I classic Mel Gibson ship. That's kind of character. It would be awesome if he did that. And I just would love to see that movie. That's an interesting movie to me. Yeah. But I'm telling you Mel is going to go this one is going to do numbers. There's no way it's not because all that slop he's whatever you want to say about him. He's a he's a he's a really good film. Crime movies. Yeah. Are awesome. They're so good. He's a good film. Even fucking Vince Vaughn being Republican cops. Oh dude what's dragged across concrete. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. That movie is really awesome. It's really weird. Like they're all weird because they're all weird because they also go through pains to be like we're actually not racist. We're like my best friend is a black guy who I listened to jazz. Like they all listen to jazz or blues or some shit. Right. And then they like they like beat up every ethnicity in prison. Right. You know what I mean. Right. I actually just hate humanity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway those are bangers. Those are like I and I like there's nothing wrong with enjoying fascist filmmaking. We know what Cobra. That's fashion. We've covered so many movies he's in as an actor and you are just like that guy is so captivated. And part of it is the like caged animal. Incredible. In him in the darkness and everything. The deal with Cobra is that's when Sly's going to be in Beverly Hills Cop. And when yes and when he's like working on the script he's like so I'll be in it. He literally I think Beverly Hills Cop should like blow criminals faces off. And they're like oh we're going for more of a comedy thing. He's like oh that's cool. I'm going to turn this into Cobra. Like he quits Beverly Hills Cop right less than two months before it starts filming. Everyone else has been cast crew staffed up. Everyone else. Yeah. I didn't know that truly. And then he's like fine we're on different pages. I'll go take my notes and make something else. And Cobra was like here's all the shit I wanted Beverly Hills Cop. Equally iconic movies. But like to me. But Eddie Murphy only ends up in that because they've built a movie that has to go. And they're like I don't know we're watching Daily from 48 hours. And how much better. I mean that's the perfect. I mean and that's what it takes to get that famous. Things have to really break a certain way. Yeah. Right place right time. Now let me ask you this. You guys might know about the is the Cobra directors cut anywhere. Is the Cobra Stallone cut. Oh. Because he you don't know this. They know I do know. He turned in a three hour cut of Cobra. Yeah. And if you watch the movie kind of makes sense because the movies are in here. Holy shit. Yeah. They don't ever go back to it. Yeah. But it is cool. Anyway I love Cobra. I love Cobra. That movie is his drafts folder though. It's every loose idea he had that got rejected from a different movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No I did. But I would love to see the fucking. Yeah. I don't think it exists but. Ask him. The Rocky. He did the Rocky thing. The Rocky recut recently. But the Rocky recuts weird. Yeah. Takes the robot out of Rocky. The goofy shit. The four. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like this goofy shit. And I'm like. Who cares. Yeah. It's not kind of fun. The poly folks are robot. Yeah. That is fun. That's fun. It also puts it in the play in the like time of it. Yeah. But it's a slot. The Stallone movies have a little more of that edge to them. Whereas the Arnie movies don't as much like and I love the Arnie movies. But like they don't really have a political edge. It's more just like look at this guy. No they don't. In fact aren't I mean by working with Verhoeven it's almost like. It's almost like anti fascist. I mean the thing about. I mean he literally his dad was a fucking Nazi. So it's like I think where Stallone is like a fucking Italian who wants to be fascist. Exactly. Where's Arnie's like that is bad. Like I escaped that. I'm interested in that. Right. I want to be a sort of centrist Republican governor. Yeah. I want to know about how cool fucking mansion is. Come to my mansion. Yeah. Discussed bills. Yeah. Arnie has the thing where he was like. I want to hand myself over to good director or something to say. The man has to trust them. It's so. Yeah. It is the thing where you're like what if a guy who looks like this was smart as fuck and true as fuck. And usually it does a guy that looks like that. But he if anything his biggest talent is understanding like how he's perceived. Yeah. Where he fits in. Yeah. Because. Against type. And judging good collaborators. And like he's I mean he's on a run where his taste is unbelievable. Yeah. And I think having good taste is what really makes him and also it makes it clear like why he could fucking achieve anything. Totally. Because he knew who to surround himself with no matter what. But yeah. And then Stallone is like I know better than everyone. Which I respect wildly. It's like sometimes you got it man. These are all personal expression. But I respect that as a I mean and it also is nice to see yes you can be a juice head Italian and truly be an artist. Which he is. Everyone can be an artist. Every type of person can be a true. What I love about. About. And Van Damme is you just like as they get more famous you just watch the guardrails go away. And it gets worse. Right. Like it's just like uniform. There's no like there's a good one later. They're like no no no less people say no more people say yes. Yeah. The movies get dumber. For sure. Is there one good late Van Damme any at any point. I think the later Van Dammes are kind of weird and he's got kind of a weird. The skulls is straight lined up. Of reckoning. Have you seen that movie? Yeah. Have you seen Universal Soldier? Weird sequels. Oh but that's. That are straight to video with Scott Atkins and stuff. Scott Atkins. But that's the thing they move him off of being the lead. Because he's older. And the movie rules and he's incredible. I haven't seen that one. They're fucking great. I love Scott Atkins. It's him and Dolph back. It's a fucking awesome movie. They have reckoning. Is that so? 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Times of probably. Okay, I forget that we just we're going through 10. Oh yeah, watch Australian TV. Yeah, let's do a couple more here. We got a man with three children he's got to get back to. That's true. Make a man back in cheese. Hey, Eldest, Steve's guest. So my question today is about eating ass. Being what? In my early 20s, I was dating an older woman. Getting ass. My ass one time. Making an old. Eating ass. Oh, eating ass. Okay, that's why he had the childish giggle. My early 20s, I was dating an older woman who ate my ass one time. Making an old. I was like, wow, this is great. This guy's so good. Wanted something so much and not known until I received it. And over the years, I dated around a little bit. And I noticed whenever I would date outside my race, This guy's Asian. They would always reciprocate the rim job. So if I had a black girl, Latina's Asian girl. Oh, he's white. They would reciprocate. And now I've been in this relationship. He laughed in an Asian way. I don't know if that makes me a racist, but all my Asian friends have that specific laugh where they kind of interrupt themselves. Do you know what I mean? When they talk about the older women who live in their house. And especially when they get a little embarrassed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real, I'm not even joking. There's so much going on in this whole. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so this guy, okay. So he's, when he dated outside of his race. Yeah, so he's white women. He's white women. Heart one is, he dated an older woman, she ate his ass. And he didn't know he wanted it until it happened. And it was so half. Part two is later, when he dated outside of his race, it would happen again. Or it would go both of them way. Only when he dated outside of his race, would reciprocate. They reciprocate. But no one would have. He's initiated. Yeah. And then they're like, I'll do it. Sure, sure, sure. I will say you're not. I wouldn't even put it across racial lines. I don't think most women think a rim job is a reciprocable thing. I think they see getting their ass eaten, the sort of eating pussy adjacent. And that it's a specialty item on the men's oral sex side. But it's an add on, but it's a standard add on for a woman. Right. Like what's for a man. It's like a whole other menu item. What's like the squid that has like 10% chance of killing you. Sure. But yeah, the right. Yeah. The uni or what. But like it's a menu item. Like when you get to the restaurant and they're like, by the way, we do a souffle. You have to order it now. Right. Right. It's like you need to announce this. Like you need to do a little bit. We run out early. Right. Exactly. Like we have to put it in 30 days. You can't screen this to play order on us when you're wrapping up. Like you need to make a choice before you need to build the runway here. Even before you pick sterile or tap water. Yeah. You know, like sparkling or bono. Let us know if you want us to play. Where's for women getting their ass eaten feels like, hey, you could add fries for, you know, two bucks. And not as a key see that anytime. Do that anytime. And eat the up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it makes so far. So this all this all. Okay. It's over. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We just had to take a break. We said take a break. I've been in this relationship with this girl for about four months and we're both white. And the, I don't love it. Making it race reliant. Again, I've, in fact, Eldis, we don't want to dox anyone, but a white woman did eat your ass. Isn't that famously so? Actually, two. One less famous than the other. This was in the same kind of era. You know, yes, of course. I think, I think part of that was like, it was 2015 when there was like a lot of ass eating mania. It was in the zeitgeist girls on HBO. I'm trying to think like what we'd like to cross over to girls. Pre-Trump optimism in the air. I feel like people were like feeling extra good about eating ass. Ass eating was definitely in the culture. Yes. And when it happened to me these two times, I mean, I was surprised because I didn't even ask for it or like expect it, but I was like, Hey, this is kind of cool. And you know, I haven't really dipped my toes in the water since that era. But I mean, you want to talk about those women are braver than the first responders. I know eating your ass unannounced. It made me feel so much more secure about my ass and hygiene. Because I was like, I was like, I would never eat my fucking ass. I'd be like, put the bullet through my skull. I'm not doing that. But I did it. I was like, you know what? I do take care of myself. I bathe thoroughly, especially in the ass area. And yeah, what's wrong with eating my ass? It upped your confidence a little bit. Yeah. I also just want to call out after all your sort of like ethnicity guessing, he says we're both white and give it the full Nick White Journal. Thomas. Yeah. All right. Keep going, Aldous. I've already eaten her ass, but she won't reciprocate. And I mean, it's fair again, it's whatever she wants to do, but at the same time, I kind of miss it. And I don't know. I'm just looking this way here a way to politely ask for it and be patient and respectful about it. Yeah. You're like, hey, you're white. Yeah. Yeah. Are you full white? Really not like a Mexican grandparent. It's nothing. I would say you want to treat. Oh, nice. Somebody's car alarm is going off. You could be like, oh, babe, you're, oh, do you need a, you want a piece of gum? I actually have one between my ass cheeks. You can maybe put mints in your asshole. Okay. Well, first of all, I think hilarious. Whatever. Who gives a fuck? Fuck this podcast. Fuck this guy too. I think I do think that this is your, him being so insistent about racist hilarious to me because it says nothing to do with that. It's nothing to do with it. As if we're going to be like, ah, of course. Yeah. You're saying anecdotal evidence. It's completely anecdotal. And I would say like, I would say that I also don't like to be listed the races. It's like like, like a black girl, a Korean girl and a like, you know, I don't know whatever what I'll, you know, like a, you know, Ecuadorian woman at your ass. That's three out of a billion or whatever the fuck. I think it has a lot more. I think some women, see women really get a pass on being homophobic. It never comes up a lot. Like you can hide behind just being a woman and you don't really have to, like, it's always surprising. I guess I'll put it this way. It's surprising when a woman's homophobic to us, to me anyway, because I guess it's like, that's maybe weirdly misogyny where I'm like, oh, women are good. Right. Yeah. You know, but I will say a lot of women, like when push comes to shove, do think they might think it's gay to play with their man's ass. Whereas it's the opposite. The more I've thought about this philosophically, you want your ass played with so bad, but you're so straight that you won't go to the expert. You know what I mean? Like, because if you want just the feeling of your ass played with the best, go to a gay guy. Right. But that's your straight. So you want a woman to do it. This is raising the key question for me, though. I know this caller's question was how do I ask or bring it up? Exactly. I respond to your question with a question for you. Is this the single most important thing in a relationship for you? Because the vibe in this call is that like, you have identified a thing that you are capable of being happy. He does see he needs to get his ass right. I don't know if you're just putting too much emphasis on this and how you're framing it to us. Yes. But if it's like a deal breaker, then that's a thing you got to work through and front load in who you're dating. Made sure. Yeah. Find the kind of freak find a sitting freaks. Four slash ass. Up right. Our slash manhole. Right. Four months. I'll just open the home for months. I feel like you can just build up to this. Totally. Totally. Four months isn't a long time. Four months is actually, I would say it's just a little late. I think three months is right where you start showing the real, your true colors. You know what I mean? Like you're still like, oh, it flipped over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now I was here. I think you can start amping up the, you're kind of in the window where it's still new enough that you, it's doesn't have to be like, let's spice up. Spice it up. Yeah, you can just be like debuting new words like let's add, let's add stuff to the thing. I think the ask is, have you ever bought it? I think it's a conversation about your months in. It's like, so what is your sexual history outside of us together? Together. And what races? What are things you like and even maybe offer the up like give us a whole taxonomic race breakdown. Flip the menu. Yeah. But I think offer up the like, are there things in the past you have like that you haven't done before? Yeah, there's stuff we want to get in the mix. Yeah. Right. Because you're talking about reciprocating. Right. This is a given to him. I mean, he says he's already eaten her ass, I believe. He has said that. So if he's already eaten her ass, like, yeah, dude, look, you're just at the point now where you just talk about the stuff you want to talk about. And if you're in a relationship, it's like, this is, this is kind of the window where you get to start. You've base, you've in three to four months, you've sort of established your baseline sexual compatibility. And now you get to fight. And then the first couple of years after that is where you start showing what the regular menu is. And then after, you know, five, 10 years is when you're like, let's just fucking get wild. Yeah, right. Let's get let's get from the machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But I mean, just don't we say this to like Charlie, she said it on a podcast where they're like, you ever fucked a guy and he's like, I ever flipped the menu. It is the perfect metaphor for like a mostly straight guy who's like, try shit. But the funniest thing is he says this in this like interview leading up to the doc and the book coming out. Right. He's going to talk about his life. He's going to talk about his sexual history. We're like, oh, he's trying to come up with like a quick kind of clean, hooky way to talk about it. Then I pull up the doc 15 men menu minutes of metaphor. It's almost like, you know, when you're young, you're looking at appetizers and you're on to entrees at a certain point. You want dessert. The search is not on the front of the menu. You go to the taco truck outside. You put your you go to the bathroom or the taco place. There's a hole in it. You put your dick through the hole. The truck doesn't have a menu. It has items painted on the wall, but some things are off menu. I just think this guy shouldn't jam on the gas. You know what I mean? Like if he is going to ask, just ask in a chill way. Do not do this sort of like, by the way, it's life or death for me. Totally totally. Don't be like, hey, what's the deal? Yeah, right. Hey, is it because you're white? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How about you eat my ass, honky? Don't say that. Yeah. Mayo ass, bitch won't even eat my ass. I think we want to deracialize this. I would say let's take the race out of it. I hate it. I want to say that doesn't. And look, you're not even talking to a guy who pretends sometimes there aren't stereotypes that are true. Okay. If this if you had any leg to stand on, my radar is not pinging. But this is not, you know, I'm not going to stop you from having a racist theory, but this particular one, this does not, you know, this doesn't. In fact, I would kind of think if anything, I, you know, there's plenty of like white girl freaks out there that might want to go over the top with being freaky to sort of like make them more interesting. I feel like you get that in a major city where it's like there is white guilt when like a cool and like Brooklyn is so much that you have to pretend you're like by when you're not how many girls from Connecticut pretend they're by in their 20s because they're like, I can't be someone from repub with Republican parents that lives in Brooklyn that does that. That has nothing about them. You know what I mean? That's my whole deal. Yeah. Yeah. I think you have to, I think so anyway, I think your race science is wrong, but I do think you need to communicate with your girl and that you're not in any, this is normal. This is also not in the grand scheme of things. It's really not crazy. Now, worst case scenario, she's just like, ew, right? Yeah. Fuck it. How dare you ask me to do that? And that's a problem, but is that a good break for also? Better that you find that out, then figure it out. See how much for a deal breaker. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Were they eating ass in England? I think so. You moved back before you found out? I moved back when I was 22. Yeah. I was still like paddling in the pool. Yeah. You're so bad at sex in college. Totally. Like it's just like, Totally. No one's good. No. We all think we're like pretty good. You're not getting the ass eating necessarily. Not in any finesse way. Or what happens is in college, you either have the worst sex of all time, or because no one really knows what they're doing. I have friends who just went so far crazy immediately that they fucking a freaky way that they'll never get back to. And then they're chasing it. And they're like, oh, fuck, that was actually insane. Right. It's when you like accidentally kill an open mic. Yes. Do I just have all the answers? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And then you just never have a set that could get to be before you get back around. Yeah. You don't know how good you have it. Right. Somebody just like, I, like, there are girls who do porn that like the year before they decide to are just a girl at a dorm that finds a boyfriend and fucks him a hundred times. Right. And there's a guy who's like, oh, I guess this is what it's going to be like forever. Like I had a friend from college who had a girlfriend who, his first girlfriend ever. Demanded that he like chomp on her nipples. Like, you know what I mean? Like fucking the Mario fucking. The chain chomp. The chain chomp. Why did I go right to the chain chomp? Yeah. Like chain chomping her. Yeah. And dude, what do you think happened the second time he, the time he sexually chomped on? The second girl is chomped on, right? She's like, ah, what the fuck is your problem? Why'd you bite my tits? And he's like, sorry. The girl I had, the only girl I ever had sex with made it seem like this was pretty standard procedure. That's what you would describe as a faulty towers ending. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That is a very British. Oh, confidence. Communication. So yeah, talk about it. Good for you, man. We're happy you got your ass eaten. We're happy you got your ass eaten by that old lady. You want it? Honestly, the first, that sounds like an awesome setup when he was in his early twenties, dating an older woman. We need to bring like the age gap, the problem with the age gap, the score. December May romance. It's look, we're not getting them out of society. Let's let's elevate the one that goes older woman, younger guy, younger woman, older guy. It ain't going nowhere. It's washed. But it's not your right. That ain't that's what our listen. I hate to break into you. That's like, we're not going to cure a thing in our society. We're not curing that and living within a good world. Right. It's just not happening. But I think if we like, like, like, let's, let's, let's raise up milk stock. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like what? And I think it's kind of happening. There's like, you know, there's some, there's some movies about it. About it. Yeah. You know, Jennifer Coolidge, her Emmy. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Jennifer. Yeah. We had, you know, the cool kid, Jennifer Coolidge is like Hall of Fame milk or what? She's the milk. She's the milk. That's what's like. Like she's like, she's the, the first face you see in the museum. Of course. It's also one of those crazy things. The milk. And I got a pat. I'm a member dude. I'm a member of the milk. I get off like, I get half off. It's one of those crazy things to look it up and be like, well, she's 31. I know. She's not even that old. She's not that old. But you know, but we do need to cure America of its like pedophilic desires when it comes to women. And we like, yes, we need hot like old ladies. Ladies are hot as shit. Yes. Like old into old, you know, middle age. And it's like, yeah, 22 year old dudes, you would, you would have a, this guy probably the summer of his life, getting his ass eaten by a divorcee who's seen it all. Right. And I think we need, that's, that's how we solve that's how that's what we need to do with the age gorse. Discap is like, yeah, whatever, or age gap discourse. What the fuck did I say? You said age gorp. The Aaron Taylor Johnson setup. Yeah. We need to fucking, you know what I mean? We need to lionize that. That's beautiful. So anyway, that's, that's a solution. You're killing like three birds with one stone at this point. Society. We need more milfs to fuck guys in their twenties. You know what I mean? Let's spread the age gap to the gals as well. Let's break the glass ceiling. Let's get you dicked down by some recent college grads. That's right. You got some fun for us to go out on Elvis. He's nodding confidently. Hey, Bobby, Elvis and guest. I was wanting your opinion on what is the acceptable timeframe to move in with someone that you're in relationship with. I got you. You're fun. Elvis, you fucking idiot. You wouldn't want to move in. I knew he was done with calls. I've got a few weeks. Just a classic standard fucking question that could go on anytime, any episode. General philosophical. You know that's not what this call is. These calls are designed. We're about, this is where we're wrapping up. Right. Oh, stop. I got pushed. I was a fucking in cell and I got pussy yesterday and we all took here and we fucking move forward. The credits roll. This is maybe the most generic question you could possibly move in with your boyfriend. I don't know. Is that really what you came up with with fun question on the way out? I had it in the holster. Oh, you've been planning to do that. The last one was more fun. You fucking idiot. The last one is funner than this one. Anyway, go ahead. We'll fit. We already started. I don't want to take it away from this woman. But then I feel like also the other end of the spectrum, like you could be waiting too long too. Like, is it crazy to wait like five years, 10 years? I don't know. What is the general consensus on an acceptable timeframe of being with someone before you move in together? Dang. Okay. Really fun to discuss. But yeah, let's give her some advice. Big question is where do you live? Yeah. If you live in New York City. Circumstantial qualifiers. You're going to get pushed into that pretty fast. Okay. I'm glad you brought this up because I actually feel the exact opposite. Okay. Go ahead. Hit me where I think you should probably like, they're just going to push you if you live somewhere expensive to move in together. Because you say that. And I think that has actually torpedoed a lot of New York relationships. It's the classic speed bump. Right. Exactly. You're like, I guess we'll move in together. It would be so cheap. We'll live in a place together. And then you're like, wait, we're 24. What the fuck are we going to get married? Yeah. How many New York apartments are not cohabitable for a couple? Totally. So it's like, oh, now we're saving money. You're living with my roommate. Yes. This plus sucks. I did that. I did that really. Yeah. Yeah. I remember maybe the darkest moments of Eldis's now wife's life was when she had to move into his room. Yeah. Because he had to go to Baltimore family emergency. Uh huh. And dude, she wanted to fucking kill herself. Yeah. It was like, it was living, she was living in a bar with Eldis's dumb ass best friends. Yeah. She didn't love living in the three bedroom with four other people. Man, New York is so silly. And then for a moment, you, you, we all live together. Like there was like a four, how long was that? Like four months where we all were under the same roof? Four months, five, six, six months maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Where it was like five people. Yeah. Remember that one time where it was like you, you, you and your wife, I had somebody over our other roommate had somebody over are the mysterious and elusive big P was crashing. And you had a cat and there was like nine souls in a three bedroom fucking apartment. We were like, this is fucked up. Like that, that felt like we were living in a tenement. I'll say that from a kind of flip perspective, I lived with a couple for like five years. Oh, wow. You did. That's right. You're the third wheel. Yeah. My best friend and I moved in together and right when a relationship started. Right. And it was like they're staying over a lot. Right. Now they're here all the time. Right. Right. Right. Down to second apartment, three of us on the lease together. Wow. Okay. And it was great. And I don't want to be like, you know, they owe me that their relationship got stress test and happily married with a kid. Right. They basically had like a fucking gremlin in the house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It helped them realize. They're like, let's have a kid so that we live with someone less annoying. Yes. They were like, if we've been through this, we can be parents. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is hard. Let's have a kid so we can hang out with someone who plays with less action figures. True. True. No joke. Found. But so like, to me, I'm like, wow, I do think it strengthened their relationship in a certain way. It clarified it. But I also don't think that is a necessary stress test. No. And I don't think failing that test means the relationship was doomed without it. I think there are living situations. I know what you mean technically. That can be so trying that they fuck things up, especially if you're in expensive cities. That's my point is that, yes, you're technically right that trying it and it doesn't work doesn't technically doom a relationship. No. But effectively, I think it does. If you move in again and then you un-move, it's over. Even if you try and keep it alive, it's like, you'd have to break up and fully become different people and meet up again years later. That might work. But you are admitting that you rolled the dice in the kitchen. And it's also too early. Lifestyle stuff of like, does one person live closer to their workplace than the other? Oh, sure. How's this thrown off commute? All these things that can change. So generally speaking, did she give any specifics about her situation? No, she was really just like, should I wait five to 10 years? Oh, five to 10 is fucking insane. That's a long time. Even somebody like me who always is scared of the steps of a relationship, I think the earliest was probably after a year of like really, and that's if shit's going good and you're compatible. And maybe the clock is ticking. And the clock is ticking. And things have lined up where you're like, we both like this place. This makes sense financially. Like geographic, all whatever. To me, it's like the relationship matters so much more than moving in together. 100%. And that I would, if anything, I would just like build your relationship until it feels almost like like you're overdue for it. Like I think you need to have a point where it's like you both have a place and it gets to the point where your lives have melded so much that one of you is spending the spending the night so often. And then it just feels like, oh, we need to do like, I think in big, in big life decisions, this goes career stuff for everything. I think it's almost always better to really to feel like you're overdue for something. And you don't want to let it get to the point of frustration or resentment or kind of insiness. But I think you want to wait for the moment where you're like, yeah, I should have done that like a month ago. In general, I think it's always a problem when things other than your relationship dictate taking another step. Exactly. So if you're tempted by slicing your New Yorker, I lost my job. I should move in with my girl and her friend. No, you shouldn't. You should get a shitty sub lease for six months while you figure your shit out. Yeah. You want to wait especially because you don't want to move when you're fucked up by something else. Right, right, right. Because then you are a problem, like you're a whole syndrome moving into someone's house. Like you are, you're bringing all this shit to them. That's you mean to preach it kind of. I mean, a movie we all remember. Of course. A bang. I think I did see that in theaters. We saw it. We all were like, these guys, the guys who made this will make the highest grossing film ever made. Definitely. This is the biggest director in the history of Hollywood. Oh, the movie was made by the Russo brothers. Get the fuck out of here. That's fucking crazy. It's the last thing they made before Captain America or whatever. It's that seven years of TV, seven years. You know, good TV like Resonance or community or whatever. Yeah. Community. Oh, they did. Community. They did a lot of good. They did the pilot. Yeah. Oh, that's a fast development. They did the pilot as well. The rest of the moment. The Kramer. Well, the fucking Kramer. And then it's fucking. I'm still waiting. That's crazy. Kramer too. Where is it? Yeah. They were like Sundance guys. They made an indie comedy. Really? Then they do you me and the pre. They're like, we're going to we're on the path to be studio comedy filmmakers. Right. And then it's like that movie doesn't totally work. They become like the best. They have a pilot directors kind of like directing producers. And then they circle back to the Marvel system, make four billion dollar movies. They did. Yeah. And then of course, finally graduate to the films that have changed the culture forever. Right. Cherry. Great Kramer. Cherry of course. Cherry, the one with Chris. Wow. They're electric. They're still working with Marvel guys. Now all their movies. Yes. Marvel and now they're back to Marvel. And then they're back to go back to the well. Yeah. Dude, you have that much fucking money. Why even work? But that's another that's just me, I guess, for its philosophy. Oh, this, how long did you wait to move in? It was a while, wasn't it? Well, we kind of she kind of did move in on the necessity and because of the necessity. Skip town for a little. Yeah. But you were dealing with so you're the exception of the rule because it was like you were dealing with such extreme like emergency that if a relationship gets through this, you're good. Yeah. Kind of shit. And again, we don't, if you can avoid that, avoid it. Obviously you couldn't. Yeah. But we were, I think we were together for two years before that happened. Yeah. That feels that feels pretty soon after. And you guys were hanging out all that. I mean, you were either there, we were roommates at the time. So it was like, it made sense. Yeah. Two years feels reasonable, whatever. Yeah. You know, you know what the fucking, I would love to know why she's asking and who's. Yeah. Who's context for not getting. Pressing who? Yeah. Because she, her throne 5-10 is actually 10. Imagine someone's like, hey, you want to move in together? I wonder why she's asking. Yeah. Let's give it 10 years. Yeah. Let's just. Yeah. She been in a 10 year relationship. She's like, can you just fucking move in with me and the guys like, I don't know. Maybe. It's definitely a very fun question though. I had a lot of fun. I would say it's fun. Fun is the word I would use. And we didn't have maybe the least funny segment, this whole fucking episode because of this. Everything else had a bunch of jokes, but this just sober, actual advice to end. Relationships, human interaction, sure. Well, that is going to do it for us, but you guys, if you like movies guys, check out Blank Check with Griffin and David. And we didn't even, you know, the show is interesting because it goes through an entire filmography of a director, which is like a cool, you know, if you're too stupid to even approach studying film, it's kind of how a dumb ass goes to film school. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's like, because you do, you know, I had never really, I'd never thought of looking at movies in that sense, but it's been cool to examine things that way because yeah, you realize like even the masters got to start something. Sure. Yeah. Maybe even really great directors made weird pieces of shit or stuff that didn't work. That's fun to think about. And it's, it's actually, it's really, and it makes it, if you're somebody who is, who wants to do film in particular, but literally anything that feels unattainable. Yeah. Like I think maybe the best, the best one of these is like the Kubrick one because that's exactly what I was about to bring up. And then like I love the fuck. What's the, the killing? Yeah. Killing. That's maybe his first great movie. But his actual first movie sucked. His first movie sucked dick. Yes. And they're like, and that's like, and then maybe that's also why he became such a professional. A control freak. Right. But people speak of him like he was this like perfect creature put on earth to make perfect movies. No. Yeah. And it's more informative to watch that guy stumble and not know what he's doing and learn it on his feet before he gets to that level of control. Same. I just watched the Mel Brooks documentary, which I'm a huge, I love that. So really good. So it's really good on HBO. Yeah. It's on max right now. Really good. And that's another one where it's like, you know, I just grew up in a world where Mel Brooks was one of the like comedic voices. Yeah. That I knew always existed. But the fact that even after Blazing Saddles, people weren't sure if his career was going to work is crazy. When you see these legends and you're like, no, dude, they almost fuck up so many places and that it makes you realize like, oh, it's not, you don't have to be perfect. And I think going through, it's fun. First of all, it's fun, funny, pie. I guess you guys have great guests. You know a lot about movies. But also it's like, it's a cool way to look at them because it's like, oh, you get a holistic picture of this stuff. Mel Brooks, like one of the most important guys to me. I love his work. But also like since childhood, I've been like, that's a guy who just seems completely unencumbered by anything other than the desire to be funny. And he does it well and had always just been kind of like, all business, my job is being funny. Totally. And I feel like that doc is the first time he's really been like, I was in deep analysis for ten years. I was like white knuckling it through mental breakdowns and shit. It took me so long before I felt like I was comfortable and I had like landed where I needed to be. And that stuff only makes the work even better. Totally. Totally. It's all it's fucking awesome. Yeah. See, yeah, fuck their party. Just watch that documentary. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, watch the Mel Brooks. Yeah, more money in HBO's pocket. HBO, great company. Great company on its way to be a better company. Ignore everything I said when I thought Netflix bought HBO. I'm happy that the Allison family has bought it. And I hope to work with you someday, sir. Fly boys, too. Yeah. Fly boys, too. Put me in the cock. Jam me in the cockpit. Let's go to the rest. David Griffin, thanks for coming, guys. Check out the podcast and we'll talk to you guys. And as we, you know, the Oscars recap, as we said, Bagonia swept everything. Five slaps this year. Yeah. Yeah, five different slaps. Yeah, the fucking heated rivalry guys were slapping everybody. They're like, do something about it. We're the most famous guys in the world. Fuck you, Laura Dern. That's sexy. Wasion slapping everybody. Dude, crazy, crazy ceremony. Thank you guys. We'll see you next week. Bye bye. More. Oh, that looks good. Food options from poolside snacks to ala cart dining. Book on app, in-store or online. You book it, too. We sort it. 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