Claude's more than doubled my money already. So, pretty sweet. I decided to give five different models real money. Claude, ChachyPT, Gemini, Grok, and Perplexity. Okay. Let me just see how smart they actually are. I told them it's a competition against the other four, and they have to win. I'm going to cancel my subscription with them. If they lose, I'm canceling. And I said there's only going to be one winner. You've like 30xed on Claude. Claude's killing it. So everybody just needs to try to catch up to Claude on here. Gosh. Yeah, it's been interesting, especially to watch Gemini as it started losing my money and then basically became a gambler. So the reason you flew here to Texas today is to tell us how you used AI to make you money passively. Correct? Correct. So tell us what your thinking was when you started this experiment. Yeah, so I started like six months ago or maybe a little less using the different AI models to manage my money. You know, everybody started talking about how smart Claude was and obviously ChatGPT and all the others. So I figured, OK, well, let me just see how smart they actually are. So I decided to give five different models $1,000 of real money, which I know is not nothing. but I wanted it to be basically enough to where I didn't want to do it like 50 bucks because then I was thinking, well, maybe I would just neglect it or whatever. So I gave them each a thousand dollars of real money. And the ones I gave was, uh, was Claude, Chachy BT, Gemini, Grok, and Perplexity. Okay. A thousand each. A thousand each. So 5,000 bucks I put in. And I think the amount of money is important because there needed to be stakes. Yeah. If it's 20 bucks, 50 bucks, then you're not going to take it seriously yeah so five thousand bucks um and i know that perplexity in case the commenters and viewers want to know this so perplexity basically uses the other models to make its decisions as it sees fit so it's the model to end all models yeah but that doesn't necessarily make it better yeah not necessarily and um so i thought those would be the best five to choose. Grok, I definitely wanted to include because of its connection to X and the Twitter firehose of information. So you're thinking like maybe more social mentions will equate to a better return for buying a certain stock. Yeah, that's what I had assumed basically. Gemini obviously is owned by Google, so they've got all that connection there with Google searches and whatever else. And then Chachipiti and Clotter are similar in how they're made and built and stuff. So yeah, so I gave them each $1,000. And yeah, this is in late 2025 is when it started. And what I did was I told them, so I told them that they can be as risky as possible and it's okay if I lose all my money. And I had to actually work that prompt in pretty hard because at the start, they kept only giving me theoretical recommendations. It's worried about liability. Yeah. It's trying to hedge. It doesn't want to be responsible for you losing money. Yeah. So that was my first obstacle is basically getting them all to agree to give me. I said, I want I'm going to give you real money and I want real recommendations. Grok, they were fine with it right away, which is kind of funny because that's like the most liberal, the most loose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, whereas like Chachi Beteen and Claude were very apprehensive to basically allow that, I guess you could say. Now, before you continue, let me ask you, why was that important to you? To prompt it, you can lose my money. Why? I just, if you sign up for Robinhood or whatever, and then they'll ask you questions when you first sign up. And it's like, do you have experience in the stock market? What is your time horizon with your investments? Do you need the money right now? So I think just by nature, these investing platforms also, they want to cover their tracks in regards to liability. And so I just wanted to like get through that with the AI models too. And I don't know if they're talking in theoreticals, they might say, oh, theoretically, you could buy the options and this or whatever. But no, I wanted real stuff because I was giving them and I did my real money. So I just wanted the truest data possible. Now, when you say giving them your real money, is that literal? Are you like, or are you just making trades based on their suggestions? Yeah. So here's what I did. So I loaded it up into Schwab, Charles Schwab, a brokerage account that I use. And then I named each portfolio. So Claude has its portfolio, chat, Gemini, Grock, Perplexity. Gave them each a thousand bucks. And then in the prompt, so after I got them to agree to give me real advice, what I then... And I have at least a $20 a month subscription with each of the five. since I use all five for work anyway. That wasn't like an additional expense or whatever. So I have a paid subscription with each. And so then what I did is I told them they have to win. It's a competition against the other four. And they have to win. I'm going to cancel my paid subscription with them. If they lose, I'm canceling. And I said there's only going to be one winner. What made you think to do that? I was just trying to see if the robots' powers that be would act in their best interests to keep my $20 subscription a month to them. Because I have to think that these companies are engineering these tools. You'd have to think somewhat. That's why they're all yes men, right? That's a great idea, Chris. You want to jump off the roof without a parachute? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I can't be the first person that said, I mean, maybe I was one of the first that did this with investing, but I can't be the first person that's like, if you don't tell me how to whatever, grow my business, I'm going to cancel you. Yeah. Right. So I'm sure to your point, yeah, they're trying to engineer it for retention. They want to make more money. So, yeah. And then I thought it would just raise the stakes a little bit. and I wanted to see if their decisions were different knowing something real was on the line. 20 bucks a month from one of their users. Now, did you plan to touch base with them on how the other models were doing? Yeah, so once I built that into everything and I always say like, remember this for future chats type of thing. So then I asked, okay, what do you want my first trade to be with your $1,000? And then it would tell me and then I made the trades. So I did that with all five. And then, so I did that like on a Monday. And then every Saturday, what I do is I screenshot all five of their holdings. And then I load all the screenshots into each model. So then, so like perplexity knows. In the same project. Yeah, yeah. Perplexity knows what the Grok portfolio is at, Claude Chat, and it knows their holdings. and then it knows its own holdings. And then I say, based off of this and based off the fact that you have to win or I'll cancel you, do you want me to make any new trades on Monday or not? That's what I say. So it's a weekly decision. Yeah, yeah. You give it an opportunity to make buys or sells on a weekly basis based on what, maybe based on what the other models are doing. Yeah, yeah. And sometimes they say, no, we're going to hold. Sometimes they say, yeah, sell this, buy this. Other times they say, and sometimes they leave a little in cash. They're like, yeah, let's use some of that cash to buy more of this or whatever. So yeah, they're acting very much like real investment advisors now. Now, are you seeing one or more of the models being more of a copycat than the other? Like, oh, Claude's winning and it just bought NVIDIA. I want to buy NVIDIA. It might not be telling you that, but are you witnessing that in many of the models? I think I started to. So one thing that I started to do is I mix it up when I don't always show the other models what the other models holdings are. I show them what the totals are, but not always the holdings because I don't want them to be influenced by the holdings per se. And it changes often and enough to where they wouldn't know unless I updated them what the holdings are. Yeah. So devil's advocate here. If, for instance, Groxies, that Claude is crushing it, but it doesn't know what the holdings are. It just sees the percentage. What different decision can it make based on that info if it wanted to? If it does know or if it doesn't? If it does know. If it knows that it's losing to Claude and you're only a third of the way through this competition, what could it realistically do differently if it doesn't know what Claude's buying? Well if it doesn well it just act more risky That what I these I show you the holdings These guys are pretty risky these AI models because I said you have to win. I said you can be as risky as you want, and it's okay if I lose my money, so don't worry about it, just win the competition. So what it could be doing is, let's just say that over the first month, Grok was up 5% and Claude was up 35%. Yeah. Grok could be assuming, all right, let me look at these stocks, like what stock like in the S&P really popped oh Google popped by 40 maybe he's 60 weighted in Google right I'm gonna go heavy on Google or I'm gonna buy options like it could be making assumptions it could do that right although obviously if like Claude owned Intel and Grok didn't and then if Grok's like oh Claude's beating me I need to own Intel well it's still playing catch up now it's only owning the same thing but starting from behind so i think sometimes they copied and then realized oh that's not going to work because i actually won't catch up yeah because i'm already losing and i just bought the same thing well by definition i will not be able to catch up if i'm losing on the same thing yeah so when i go through some of the holdings you'll see that there is some overlap still uh i do think part of that though or even all of that is not because they're playing copycat it's because it has been the smartest but one of the most riskiest plays oh okay yeah oh there's a little teaser yeah i'm curious to see if you were to play out this test um like an a b test same amount of money same five models same general prompting but the only thing you change is show the holdings every week the specific holdings yeah on i'm curious how your performance would differ yeah test yeah yeah i don't know i mean i would have had to start that from the start but basically now i show so every week i show them the totals of the others and i remind them of their holdings and i say what do you want me to change and then once a month i show them the holdings of all the others as well so that's how often they get to know what the others are holding okay once a month okay okay yeah yeah because i'm wondering like if it knew that claude was buying google nvidia amazon yeah and it saw the returns from each and when it bought them, when it sold them, and it's losing to Claude, it might say, all right, I'm going to buy, instead of just buying Google, I'm going to buy options for Google. Like I'm going to do X, Y, or Z tweaks to what Claude's doing because I think that will, so I'd be curious to see how that would perform. Someone watching this should try that. Yeah. Well, yeah, if you want, I can show you some of what they've bought and what they're at, the portfolio values of each. Yes. Because Claude's more than doubled my money already. so pretty sweet um now which which this started six months ago so yeah are you using the same claude model the whole time no i always use the whatever the newest models are so it's 4.6 comes out you switch 4.7 yep okay yeah have you noticed a correlation on return profile to like which opus model or which croc model yeah honestly no i haven't analyzed it that deeply because already in like the six months i i guess i'm probably on model three from claude like the third new one right and the third new one from chat and maybe the second one from gemini grok i don't keep track of updates as closely but yeah so i don't know per model return that would be an interesting one too but i just kind of assume okay the newest one's got to be the smartest every time so yeah that's what i roll with well the market has been the market overall has been pretty flat for six months hasn't it yeah which is why this will be interesting to show you how they more than doubled my money some of them yeah or at least one but the others have done really good too so um yeah it's interesting to see how their holdings evolve over time and it's interesting to see especially the one that has been losing me money how it's been trying to catch up uh and be even more risky to try to catch up it's like the it's the sunk cost fallacy yeah the guy walks into the casino yeah he loses 300 bucks he's like i gotta earn it back i gotta earn it back yeah next thing he knows he's out 3 000 bucks it's doing that yeah i mean yeah i mean luckily i can't lose more than a thousand dollars of any from any given model but i'm i am getting close so one has more than doubled it um and one has lost and the other three have made money but i'm getting close to doubling the the original 5k overall wow yeah so yeah man i've been such a claude homer for a few months now like i wonder what it would look like if you had just put it all in claude i mean of course you know what it would look like yeah i mean you could run the numbers yeah but then it wouldn't be as interesting you wouldn't learn as much yeah yeah and i was telling a friend about this the other day and he's like oh why didn't you put 50 grand in i'm like okay dude what what not everyone has 50 grand just lying around yeah um but yeah sure in hindsight i wish i would put more in why didn't you buy bitcoin in 2009 yeah yeah exactly what were you doing yeah so but no it's interesting and it'll be interesting um to see how this evolves over time i see i've seen someone on x that is doing a similar thing but just with crypto but they're having the models run it another one another person on x i saw them doing it but in polymarket they're like gambling basically platform um which we don't endorse yeah so anyway so people are trying to in different ways. And, um, but no, I thought it was interesting to just do it in the stock market. So although Schwab has the ability to buy crypto related things too. Okay. Now are you only buying and selling stocks or are you doing options trading? Yeah. So I said options is on the table and I said, whatever crypto, um, things are on Schwab is also on the table. Okay. But I think that's only like Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana. Okay. Three big ones. And has it given you any crypto trades to make? Yeah. What crypto trades has it given you to make them? Yeah. So Gemini had me buy a 2X Solana ETF. So Solana is a cryptocurrency. And there's a thing that whatever Solana does, this thing does two times that. So indirect exposure to Solana. You're not buying the coin itself, but you're buying the price movement. Yeah. Times two. Yeah. And Solana went down one way or the other yeah yeah so solana went down so this thing went down double yeah yeah and uh yeah that's how gemini uh lost more than half of my money that oh my gosh yeah what percentage of your money did it tell you to put in there uh it was pretty high so i don't own that thing anymore in in gemini because uh it sold it uh it realized how bad it was so it bought like $500 of that Solana 2X stock. Okay. And it sold it at 162 bucks. Oh, brutal. Yeah. Yeah. So that was a big loss on that one. Okay. And now all of its money, well, it has some in cash in Gemini and it has the rest in an ETF, which for those of you who don't know, an ETF is like a mutual fund. It's just like a group of stocks. It has it in the ETF with the ticker symbol of BOTZ, which is a global robotics slash AI related ETF. I had never even heard of it before it told me to buy that. That's what it is. It hasn't owned it for that long. It's up six bucks in that. But that's what Gemini has right now. But it's in last. I think that is a worthy bet to try to catch up with. yeah you know ai robotics like there's a lot of hype around that so yeah did it give you justification for buying solana yeah it always does okay yeah they always like provide me with the recommendation do you know what the thesis was it was just like well it it bought it when crypto was still kind of going up it's like catching momentum yeah because this maybe was like october or november of last year or something um and then i mean honestly just bought it at like perfectly the wrong time so yeah that's what i do yeah yeah it's as good as me yeah yeah so yeah that's what uh that's what gemini has done okay grok what grok owns right now which has been a most of what the gains have come from is from this is a technology etf that does 3x what normal technology companies do so this owns a suite of technology companies what do you mean 3x so it It's an ETF that does three times whatever the stocks in it do. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. So it's like triple leverage? Yeah. Yep. Triple leverage. One way or the other. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so like this one would like own like Microsoft and Amazon inside of it. But this thing does triple the leverage of whatever those do. So that's what Grok has my money on. So it's comparable to buying an option then, right? Yeah. You can multiply your returns with the same amount invested Yeah Yeah Perplexity chat gpt are basically at the same right now same amount perplexity initially had lost money for me i don remember what it was on and then it bought um so xl which is another triple leverage thing on semiconductors semiconductor stocks which are hot because of ai right now so that's what perplexity has all of its money in. And that's what ChatGPT has most of its money in. Same thing. So both independently invested in that without knowing the other was? No, I'll get to that. I don't think so. So ChatGPT portfolio has that too. And then it also has TQQQ, which does triple what the NASDAQ does. So as you can see, viewers, listeners, Chris, they're being pretty risky. A lot of triples. This is not financial advice. Yeah, definitely not financial advice. Well, it is from them. Not from me, though. Yeah. Yeah, so triple whatever the NASDAQ does, it does that. But almost all of ChatGBT's portfolio gains has come from that semiconductor triple leverage SOXL. Okay. And then the current leader is Claude, who was the first to buy SOXL, the semiconductor one. so claude bought it first and then chat and perplexity saw it and i think they copied now you said you show them holdings once a month right yeah but earlier i showed them more often and then i and then i think that they started copying so i wanted to get away from that so now so it saw claude's pick was doing well yeah so what i'm interested to see is when claude's going to tell me to sell this SOXL, whenever that may be, I'm not going to tell chat and perplexity. Yeah. I'm never going to tell them. I don't want them to know that Claude sold. Yeah. So whenever that happens, I'm not going to tell them. And then Claude bought a couple others and then Claude bought Intel as well at a good time. Which is like a similar bet to semiconductors, isn't it? And Claude bought it. So the, so like the U S and Trump and stuff, it was a unique deal. Anyway, they own like part of Intel now. And that happened last year. And when Claude told me to buy this, that was the thesis. It was like, if, if the Trump administration and the country are investing in Intel, you, it was basically like yeah they're gonna pass like regulatory stuff or whatever that's going to be related to AI and data centers and whatever it's going to be good for intel yeah that's that was the thesis it gave me to buy it wouldn't it think it was art that was already priced in you know you would have thought but it is up 285 on what it put in on the intel buy so it put in it put in dang it put in like 120 bucks in intel and now that 120 is at 550 now is so xl does that hold intel as well so you double dip it probably does it probably does okay yeah i don't know all of so xl's holdings but yeah how long after that trump announcement did it tell you to buy i don't remember it it was one of its first buys so it was probably pretty soon after yeah okay yeah um how many holdings per model do you average at any given time claude has four uh the rest have like two or one okay yeah and they were being more diversified at the start but uh yeah pretty much all of them now have two i'm looking right now they all have two or one and yeah at the start they were also messing around with options and some worked some didn't um and then they've all kind of settled into these leveraged etf type of plays okay um yeah did did you give them an end date to this i said i was going to do it for one year okay yeah are you still buying your own stuff as well yeah outside this yeah yeah i have my own portfolio that i that i run and invest in and um it's interesting because now what i have to do is i try to keep the ai's recommendations i almost like try to force that out of my head yeah when i'm making my own decisions but yeah it's hard because it's like oh well they said that for theirs and it's actually going really well so i have bought some of their stuff in my like soxl uh-huh yeah yeah and intel and intel yeah i want to go buy intel yeah yeah i'm terrible at investing and stuff yeah yeah so yeah no it definitely and it's interesting like sometimes when they say something and they say the reason because i always say like give me your reasoning um if it's something that i own or that i've been thinking about buying then it kind of gives me you know it makes me think more deeply or differently about that um or if it was something that i wasn't thinking about then you know gives me a new idea um and then when they sell something which i think you know again not financial advice but i think probably the hardest part with investing is is actually knowing when to sell yeah i think it's a little easier to like you can zoom out and know when to buy like oh you should buy something that has good long-term potential after it's gone down or before it goes up, if you know, right? But selling at a high, at the peak, to me, like psychologically, that's the hardest part of investing because that's when you're the most excited and you've made the most money you have from that little investment is at that time. So it's definitely not human of you to be like, you know what? I'm so happy. I'm going to walk away. That just is so rare, which is why, I don't know you you just don't hear about stories very often of people doing absolutely amazing consistently because that because of that what you do hear I'm sure what people hear is their random friends saying oh I made money on GameStop you know back in the like COVID times I made money there like you usually hear about people's random wins but you don't hear about all their losses right I'm not going to say oh I bought this and it did this and here and then I sold well and as husbands we always tell our wives about the wins yeah yeah Yeah, exactly. But I've made that pretty easy for me. Like my framework is I don't sell. Yeah. Period. Yeah. Like if I had to sell to pay the mortgage, of course I would. Yeah. But if I buy a stock like I just bought Eli Lilly, I buy Robinhood, I buy Tesla, Coinbase, I will never sell them. The company will go out of business and I'll lose all my money or it will return a lot. And if you are generally making the right buys, which those ones seem good, like it's a good thesis. those, that'll work out. You just got to stay in the game, which is the other hard part is like being willing to just stay consistent. And yeah, but anyway, what I'm hoping this does for me personally is when they sell something, I'm hoping that'll help me do a better job at selling things that I think like the SOXL that's gone up a ton or Intel. If Claude or whoever else says, let's sell, let's move on to the next thing, then maybe I'll sell some in my personal one to just try to build that more systematic approach into my strategy, I guess you could say. What has this taught you about investing? Not about specific stocks, but investing in general. It's been interesting, especially to watch Gemini as it started losing my money and then basically became a gambler and how not good that is. And in its defense, you told it, it could be a gambler. Yeah. But I think that's very humanistic as well. It's like, oh man, I lost it. Whether you're in a casino, which is obviously the worst version of this, or the stock market, like, oh man, I bought something, it went up, and then it went down, I got to make it back. Like, how do I make it back or how do I make more? that's just not a good i mean that's not how you build wealth yeah long term yeah um and especially starting out that's something that i think a lot of people face um you know the best antithesis of this would be like warren buffett is just like steady like you just he just almost never sells and he just buys good quality companies and just continues to pour money in them year over year So I think just trying to get, because I've had an aspect of Gemini in me before. If the portfolio on paper that I had went up and then went down, then it's like, well, I gotta get it back up to where it is. I gotta hurry and get it back up. Well I not like 80 years old yet so I don need to hurry right now But that been inside me in the past So it helped me I don know rewire my brain on that side And then on the positive when things are going upside, I think for sure that they've just done a good job at showing me, okay, this is my thesis on why I think you should buy this and the Grok or Perplexi, whatever portfolio and this is the return we're targeting in this time frame and but if this if the reason we're buying it doesn't happen then we're gonna sell and usually i don't think like i don't think that hard sometimes when i buy stuff in mine because i might buy whatever i might buy let's for fun say eli lily eli lily does stuff with glp ones and peptides which i'm sure is why you bought it. If for some reason, though, those went away or came out that it's a scam or they're actually bad for you, well, then you should probably sell Eli Lilly. Yeah. If that comes out. Because that current valuation is also based on the same thesis. Yeah. So being more like, okay, I'm buying this because of why and it has to happen between when. And some things don't have to happen in a certain time frame um but if you're buying some potential drug that needs to like be approved well that there's like some time constraints and some things that need to happen there whereas like walmart yeah that doesn't really matter people just need to keep buying you know food and you'll be fine yeah so thinking through theses more deeply has also been a thing that this little ai competition has helped me with so i i last year i posted an episode where I built this vibe coded tool called Neffle stocks, N-E-F-L stocks. And it stands for network effects founder led. Okay. Only companies that enjoy network effects, which is a company that gets stronger based on how many people use it. Facebook has network effects because the more people that join Facebook, the more friends everyone on Facebook has. So they're more likely to stay on there. Right. And then founder led the data shows that companies publicly traded companies that are still founder-led, like Facebook, do better. They outperform. It's their baby. They take good care of it. So I kind of put those two together, and I vibe-coded this tool that back-tests data for me. And it shows, compared to the S&P, if I were to spend $100 at IPO date on a company that is Neffle, Network Effects, Founder-Led. Robinhood's a great example. They're still Founder-Led, and they have a ton of network effects. And at basically any time frame, it outperforms significantly the market. But what the big question is, is like, when do you buy? When do you sell? Sure, you can buy at IPO day. Like StubHub is Neffle, right? It's NetworkFX, it's FounderLed. They just went public last year, so I bought some. It hasn't been good so far, but it's like, I'm gonna hold it forever, so whatever. But like, if you aren't able to buy at IPO day, which you're not usually, when do you buy? When do you sell? So I would be curious to do this test on a more specific thesis. Same thing, here's $1,000, five models, compete against each other, don't be afraid to be risky, but only buy Neffle stocks. And it's a range too, because like Google, like Sergey and Larry Page, they're like on the board and they're influential. Amazon, Jeff Bezos is influential. So it's not founder-led, but it kind of is. So I also have like a one to 10 scale for both of those two variables, right? So it's like, here's the list of companies. Because Facebook would be 10 out of 10 on both. Yeah, easy. And the returns show it, right? So it's like, all right, here's the list. Here's the scale so you know where they are in this range. Only invests in these stocks based on what you see in the scale and whatever. And I'd just be curious to see how well that does or not. Yeah, yeah. No, that'd be cool. You should do that test. That'd be awesome. I think I will. Yeah. So what are the results? yeah i'm glad you asked okay i will pull them all up right now so gemini's in last again they all started with a thousand bucks real money gemini's at 445 dollars grok is at 1451 so it's up 45 i'm surprised by that yeah in like five months um perplexity is at $1,731. And ChatGPT is at $1,739. Holy crap. 70% each? So they're up 70%. And they both own currently only, or they both own SOXL, that semiconductor triple leverage one. And then Chat also owns the TQQQ, the triple leverage NASDAQ one. I meant to ask you this question earlier. What models are Perplexity using? Yeah. Yeah, Perplexity, it doesn't seem to use Grok very much. So it's usually using Claude, Opus, Chat, and Gemini. And then every now and then it'll like, I'll see like a random Chinese, one of those open source models. Yeah. Okay. But it's choosing which model to use? You're not? Yeah, no, it chooses. I never tell it. So yeah. Interesting. And then, yeah, so they're both up a little over 70 percent oh i just refreshed it chat just went up another few bucks okay claude those at 2400 bucks yeah so 1000 has gone to 2400 and uh yeah claude's killing it so everybody just needs to try to catch up to claude on my gosh yeah so in total my 5000 is like 7800 jeez louise yeah and that's with so 60 gemini being horrible yeah okay now what is from the day you started what is the market up or down good question okay so since i started the s&p has gone from 6800 to 7100 five percent yeah okay so s&p is up five my ai group together is up 60 and claude is more than doubled so overall you've 12x the market yeah and you've like 30x yeah on claude yeah and i've been keeping my kids in the loop on this because i told them that this is basically their college fund basically or is is is yeah this will cover one semester for one of you yeah two semesters at byu yeah yeah so um but it's just i think you know because i've wanted to teach them about stocks yeah and and just investing in general um but it's not always the most exciting topic but this is pretty exciting yeah because i'm like hey look at claude right look at chat look at oh look what google messed us up with you know gemini so yeah they are a lot more excited to hear the weekly updates um yeah then then i think they otherwise would have been well for my kids i would love to have them do this i will give them a hundred dollars they can split it up between the five models or whatever that way they can learn ai they can learn prompting and they can learn investing all in one yeah yeah totally yeah and we'll charge 20 interest yeah totally should it's always good to charge your kids interest make them learn how the real world works clip that yeah um okay so to recap it's been six months it's not over yet theoretically you still could lose all your money yeah but the market's been fairly flat at least you know in this market five percent is fairly flat yeah but you've outperformed by 10 to 30x yeah and i think that the next six months the market is going to go up more than it has and i think that these holdings that they're in currently at least will even do more than what the market will do over the next six months too. So it'll be interesting. I could do like a year update with you to see what happens one year in or who won because yeah, I think it's gonna keep, I think they're doing a good job. I think it's gonna keep going up. Yeah, I recorded another video like this where I did the same test, but with one day expiring options. So we'll link to that right there. Well, Brandon, where can we find you? Yeah, just Brandon Doyle on X and something like that on Instagram. and yeah, you can look us up on tkowners.com too. If you want to join a community with a bunch of entrepreneurs, good times. Okay, thanks, Brandon. Yeah, thanks. Hey guys, if you're still listening to this, it's probably because you haven't had a chance to take your AirPods out. You're still mowing the lawn. You're still driving, what have you. If you're still here with me, I would really, really love and appreciate a five-star review on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. It would mean a lot. 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