Dianna Russini Resigns from The Athletic // Garrett Crochet Hit hard in Minnesota // Bruins Close Out Regular Season Tonight - 4/14 (Hour 3)
46 min
•Apr 14, 202614 days agoSummary
The episode covers Diana Russini's resignation from The Athletic following her involvement with NFL coach Mike Vrabel, the Red Sox's historic collapse against Minnesota with Garrett Crochet's historically poor outing, and the Bruins' final regular season game with playoff seeding implications.
Insights
- Media coverage of the Russini-Vrabel situation has been minimal despite claims of a 'frenzy,' with most major outlets avoiding the story until an ethical breach was confirmed by an employer
- Workplace conflict-of-interest policies extend beyond peer relationships to include vendors and clients, creating asymmetrical consequences for reporters versus coaches based on job security and leverage
- Crochet's historically poor performance (1.2 IP, 9 H, 11 R, 0 K) may indicate either injury-related velocity decline or sign-stealing, raising questions about managerial decision-making in leaving him in the game
- Tabloid media outlets like the Boston Herald are abandoning their core business model by avoiding sensational stories that drive readership and sales
- Institutional factors (winning records, franchise value) determine consequences for misconduct more than the severity of the behavior itself
Trends
Asymmetrical accountability in sports: high-performing coaches face minimal consequences while reporters in weaker positions bear disproportionate career damageDecline of traditional tabloid journalism: legacy outlets avoiding sensational but commercially viable stories due to perceived ethical concernsSign-stealing and pitch-tipping concerns emerging as potential explanations for unexplained offensive explosions in baseballWorkplace policy enforcement tied to employee value and contract status rather than uniform standardsMedia self-censorship on conflict-of-interest stories until official employer action provides cover for coverageIntentional tanking in NHL playoffs becoming more visible and brazen, with teams openly sacrificing games for draft positionGoaltender instability as competitive disadvantage in playoff matchups
Topics
Media Ethics and Conflict of InterestWorkplace Sexual Misconduct PoliciesAsymmetrical Accountability in SportsTabloid Journalism StandardsMLB Pitcher Performance AnalysisSign-Stealing in BaseballNHL Playoff Seeding StrategyIntentional Tanking in Professional SportsCoach-Reporter RelationshipsInstitutional Power DynamicsSports Media Coverage StandardsGoaltender Performance in PlayoffsFirst-Round Matchup AnalysisManagerial Decision-MakingVictim Narrative in Public Statements
Companies
The Athletic
Diana Russini's employer where she resigned following the Vrabel incident and internal review process
New York Times
Published photos of Vrabel and Russini in hot tub, exposing Vrabel's denial as inaccurate
New York Post
Original Page Six story that broke the Vrabel-Russini incident
Boston Herald
Local tabloid criticized for delayed front-page coverage of the Russini-Vrabel story
Boston Globe
Covered story as secondary media item in Chad Finn's Sunday notes
ESPN
Employer of Adam Schefter, who provided cautious commentary on the Russini-Vrabel situation
New England Patriots
Mike Vrabel's employer; subject of discussion regarding HR policy enforcement and consequences
Minnesota Twins
Team that defeated Red Sox 11-0, with Garrett Crochet allowing historic offensive explosion
Boston Red Sox
Garrett Crochet's employer; criticized for managerial decisions in leaving pitcher in game
Detroit Tigers
Another team with left-handed pitcher getting pounded in Minnesota, suggesting pattern
Buffalo Sabres
Potential first-round playoff opponent for Boston Bruins; discussed as preferable matchup to Carolina
Carolina Hurricanes
Potential first-round playoff opponent for Boston Bruins; discussed as more difficult matchup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Team engaged in obvious tanking, including own-goal, to secure top-5 protected draft pick
Ottawa Senators
Competing with Toronto for draft positioning; plays final games with playoff seeding implications
Seattle Kraken
Team competing with Toronto for playoff position with two games remaining
People
Diana Russini
Resigned from The Athletic following hot tub incident with Mike Vrabel; criticized for playing victim
Mike Vrabel
NFL coach involved in hot tub photos with reporter; criticized for defiant response and lack of accountability
Garrett Crochet
Allowed historic 11-run, 9-hit performance in 1.2 innings against Minnesota Twins
Alex Cora
Criticized for leaving Crochet in game despite early offensive explosion and velocity concerns
Adam Schefter
Provided cautious, non-committal commentary on Russini-Vrabel situation
Colin Coward
Avoided discussing Russini-Vrabel story for six days, only mentioning it to explain why he wasn't covering it
Chad Finn
Covered Vrabel-Russini story as secondary item in Sunday notes column
Marco Sturm
Announced plan to play all players in final regular season game to maintain playoff readiness
Stephen Ginsburg
Recipient of Russini's resignation letter; initially supported her during investigation
Mike Greenberg
Host of Get Up show; mentioned as unlikely to cover Russini-Vrabel story prominently
Felger
Co-host providing analysis and commentary on Russini-Vrabel situation and sports stories
Massarotti
Co-host providing analysis and commentary on Russini-Vrabel situation and sports stories
Quotes
"If you don't want to land on page six of the New York Post, hot tub and canoodle with the NFL sideline reporter, then don't drive two hours into the desert and jump in a hot tub with her. That's pretty simple, don't you think?"
Felger•Mid-episode
"There hasn't been a frenzy. No one was talking about it to a fault. No one was talking about it."
Felger•Early discussion of Russini situation
"I have never seen a team barrel up someone like that. I mean, even sucky pitchers. No, like I want to give you the actual complete total line of that of that outing because it's absolutely outrageous."
Massarotti•Crochet performance discussion
"The photos are enough. And I would tell you that just being in the hot tub together is a bad look for a reporter."
Massarotti•Vrabel-Russini analysis
"If he weren't a winning NFL football coach, he might lose his job."
Massarotti•Vrabel accountability discussion
Full Transcript
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It's, I'll tell you something to rub me right. Filter and mask, a 98.5, the sports hub. Don't confuse moral and ethical. Diana's in a space where it's moral and ethical. Mike's is moral. If, and again, these are allegations. That's the other reason I don't talk about it. But I do want to create or provide clarity on that when you say, well, why doesn't the mainstream, I don't think mainstream broadcasters, writers, talk about moral stuff. If it becomes ethical, if a reporter gets fired for this, then you, that means the New York Times discovered ethical breaches. Therefore, the mainstream media comes in to discuss, they have evidence therefore of an ethical lapse. So I'm supporting the mainstream media. That's one thing if you're a podcaster with a small following blogger, you don't know your latitude on this stuff. You can talk about what you want, when you want. But for the main, for the major media players, mostly we wait for an ethical breach, which is confirmed by an employer to discuss. And explaining why he hasn't talked about it, which is just part of the, the part of Diana Rossini's statement that bothers me. I mean, she didn't use the word witch hunt, but the tone was that of that, well, in the days that followed, unfortunately commentators in various media have engaged in a self-feeding speculation that is simply unmoored from the facts. This media frenzy is hurtling forward without regard to the review process that the athletic is trying to complete. It continues to escalate, fueled by repeated leaks. And I have no interest in submitting to a public inquiry that has already caused far more damage than I am willing to accept. She's, so again, she doesn't use the word witch hunt, but she's, that's a tone. Yeah, use the word frenzy. There hasn't been a frenzy. No one was talking about it to a fault. No one was talking about it. Colin Coward, who's no shrieking violent, did touch it for six days. And then the only way he mentioned it was to say, why I'm not talking about it. So I think that Rossini and especially Rabel have gotten an exceptionally light touch on this. So they want to turn around and play the victim, stop it, give me a break. Preposterous claim there. So again, that's just what I'm just sort of stuck on. But Colin just sort of laid out the ground rules there. Well, now that one of their employers has weighed in with an ethic violation, then the mainstream media comes in. Okay, so can I expect this tomorrow on my get up show with Mike Greenberg? Yeah, let's see, I doubt it. Or I can get more on the WNBA draft. No, there will be some sort of, it's getting shoved in my face. And no WrestleMania coverage, Michael. Oh, and that, right. Women's basketball and the wrestling. Thank you, that's the other one. No, just keep feeding me that. Versus one of the most prominent national football writers, just caught a hot tub and had to resign with the reigning coach of the year. I'm much more interested in who the Vegas Aces drafted, third overall, and freaking the cage match or whatever the F, they're shoved in my face with these clowns in the wrestling circus. Good God, do you care about ratings or not? No. I'm sure the wrestling does okay. Does great. That other thing, my God, please with the WNBA already. Anyway, your thoughts, Mass currently on the Racini. No, look, what Murray said earlier too, at some point, Vrabel's gotta come out and say something here and address it. Because again, people, you know, there's not gonna be any real discipline for him, but look, it's hard. We all saw what we saw. The New York Times just exposed his denial as bull crap. Pretty much, yes, pretty much. And so he's gotta address it at some point. And the other thing I was telling you, I was reading some of their comments again, and I suppose, you know, at the end of the day, you can decipher these however you want, but all they really said was the photos are misleading. They never really said we've never had any sort of, now look, maybe that's implied. I think Vrabel's answer was absolutely implied. He said anyone who can strew anything else other than that in the photos, it's laughable. Right, he did say laughable. So he's, I think he went on the attack on that. I think for all intents and purposes, yeah, he denied that anything inappropriate was going on. So maybe you're right. I just, the way he said the photos don't show anything else anymore. You think he leads himself wriggle room? So I don't know, I just think he's talking about the photos there. Wiggle room from what? Like, no, I'm not talking about wiggle room. I'm just saying, I think it's more likely that it's true that it wasn't, you know, you could easily come out and say, there's never been anything physical between us, you know, we're friends and that's all it is. They didn't do that. I mean, it wasn't that blunt. Now maybe Vrabel did, I told you, maybe it's a matter of interpretation. So there's always stuff like that, but look at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. The photos, the photos are enough. And I would tell you that just being in the hot tub together is a bad look for a reporter. Oh, you think? Really? It's a bad, bad look. So the frenzy is just, you know, once that happens, you've gone too far anyway. Like there's no going back from that because it's all about perception. And if people think that you're in the hot tub with every coach in the league, then forget it, you're done. I just don't think she's been treated unfairly. I don't, I think women in these stories, there's a general unfairness versus how we look at the man versus the woman. I will accept that. But in her case, she carried herself a certain way. So I don't dispute that either. I would like, I would love to hear from more women in the media on this. Like I don't know how many of them will actually speak because I'd be eager to know how many of them are saying exactly what you're saying, in which case I'd say they speak from experience. And by the way, It's hard to say as a guy, Mike. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I know. You sound, I or anyone, we would sound sexist, but I'm just telling it like it is. I mean, she's the one who decided to carry herself that way. And so she makes her bed, she lies in it. And I'd say the same thing about Vrable. Now, I mean, we've been on Vrable. I mean, I, you know, I feel unclean on this because I'm on him too. It's not like I'm one of these football writers who aren't touching the thing. We've been talking about it every day since it broke. And if he wants to carry himself this way, this is the way he deserves everything he's getting to. He's not being treated unfairly. If anything, he's getting way too much of the benefit of the doubt. If I hear anything from him with him playing the victim, please, even worse than Racini, way worse. No one's touching you. No one's going after you, pal. So I don't want to hear that. And I don't want to give him in trouble if something hasn't done yet. But his initial statement is kind of along those lines. It's laughable. It's laughable for me to read into the hot tub and the sunlight dancing on the rooftop of the bungalow. Stop it, please. There's an air of defiance by using that term. It's laughable. It's totally fair. So I just, you get what you get. If this is how you want to roll, then this is how you roll. And I've said this a million times. I'm not perfect and I'm not casting any moral aspersions because I make mistakes in all parts of my life too. And so we're all human. I get it. But if you make that mistake, you are responsible for it. And if this is the way you carry yourself, if this is what you want to do, you want to run around and you get nabbed, then you deal with the consequences. I have no sympathy for you. It's very simple. If you don't want to land on page six of the New York Post, hot tub and canoodle, and with the NFL sideline reporter, then don't drive two hours into the desert and jump in a hot tub with her. That's pretty simple, don't you think? It's not like you're some victim or you got caught, just randomly got caught in a bad spot. You put yourself in it. That's how you choose to carry yourself, Mike. So you deserve everything that you get. That's your bed. You lie in it. It's not my problem. I just don't want to hear the playing the victim part. Stop it. Pat and Framingham, your thoughts? Yeah, bravo should be held more accountable for this. It's a more and ethical issue on his part. Interacting with reporters is part of his job. And he had something to gain from it, as well as he had something that she needed, which is his scoops. Mike, if your daughter went into the business, you would not want this situation to be OK in the sense that NFL coaches can say, oh, yeah, I can give the scoop to my buddy who I go out for beers with, or I can give it to you, young PML reporter, but you know what it costs. Yada, yada, yada. It's not acceptable. He should be fired. He should be getting the Utoka treatment. I know Kraft won't do it based on his history, but the NFL should step in. He shouldn't have a job, really. OK. I don't believe that. That's going too far. No, I don't believe that either. But the look is, again, the stakes are just much higher for her than they are for him. But that doesn't mean the organization should be happy about it. Look, if he wasn't a winning NFL football coach, he might lose his job. Yeah, maybe. If he were in the private sector, I mean, the dude and the guy, I mean, to laugh, but the kiss cam couple at the cold, freaking cold, did he lose his job? I think they both did. I don't know about him. I think, you know, they both resigned. So like the most workplaces, you're not, there's standards, there's rules against interoffice dating and disclosing it or whatnot. Right. And then usually, it's not just fellow employees. It might be vendors or people you do business with. Absolutely. And it sort of extends to not just an interoffice romance, but a personal relationship with someone that does business with your company. And there's standards and rules there about what you're allowed to do and not allowed to do and what you have to disclose and not disclose. Every company has those parameters. The baseline is don't make us look bad. If you make us look bad. Well, I mean, I don't know if that's that. I mean, they just don't want. The appearance of impropriety. Or impropriety, period. Right. So I'm saying if Diana Rossini isn't an employee of the Patriots or the NFL, but she's the equivalent of a vendor or a client. Definitely. You know what I mean? Definitely. And in a lot of companies, the equivalent relationship, I think, would expose them. But because it's football and he just won the coach of the year, they went to the Super Bowl, I can get touched. And the sports isn't real life. So it's like it's apples to oranges. But she had to deal with the real life ramifications. Yes, she did. So she worked for a company that has those standards and those rules. He works for the freaking NFL, where it's a free for all. Correct. So I guess that's unfair to her. But she knows the rules on that one. Yeah. Well, she should. She knows that I'm going to get in trouble more than you. She damn straight knew that. No, no, you know that going in. Yep. You know that going in. That part of it is absolutely true. We'll have more on this. We do have to touch on Garro crochet last night. It's not often you turn on a ball game and are just flat out stunned. Mouth open stunned is what I was last night with that Red Sox game. I felt the same way. I mean, I bet we all did. You could not believe what you were saying. I think the broadcasters felt that way. We'll touch on that and get more of your thoughts right after these words. You know the place. Everything can turn in a moment in Augusta, one swing, one hole, and the entire leaderboard shifts. That's what makes this week perfect for live betting. Draft King Sportsbook, America's top sportsbook for live betting, has the action from the first tee shot to the final putt. So you can react in real time as the pressure builds and the board keeps moving. And now you can take it even further with Draft King's same game parley feature. You can combine finishing positions with same round player props all in one bet. 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Do you consider them the periodic table of sports talk? Put that in your pipe and smoke. Sorry, I don't mean to blow a gas can. No, no, blow it, baby, blow it. Belger and Maz. ["Bad Guy"] And a ground ball, and that's fair. Just inside a chalk, a run scores. Back to back two base hits, one nothing Minnesota. Ratter taken off and it's one on, and landed a left and that's gonna be down for a base hit. And a score another one. The approach is problems against Minnesota continue, two to nothing twins. Ground ball up the middle, story diving for that. Out of the glove and rolls, one run is in. Here comes the second runner to score. And it is four nothing Minnesota, what an ugly start. And hard hit, smacked into left field. Boxed in is in, that'll reload the bases, that'll also make it five nothing. Driven deep in the right center field, set on, racing back, turning around. That ball is gonna be off the wall, one run in, two runs in, seven to nothing. Good, it's gracious. Second and third infield in for Caratini. Swingin' a high deep drive left field, he crushes this one out in here, into the second deck, 10 to nothing Minnesota. It's like the twins have a pitch calm in their helmet. There's another one, hammer deep to left field. And that went deeper than the first one. And 11 to nothing Minnesota. Unexpected and shocking, do not begin to touch on that. I'm just in shock. I didn't even know this was possible. What it sounded like in the early going, the first two innings of that game in Minnesota last night. I mean, we all have a story like this. Like I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I rarely do this, but I passed out on the couch last night. Early on that I was super early and I was just exhausted. I just randomly passed out on the couch, which I never do. But I did after like, I don't know, 30 minutes. I woke up, I saw the Red Sox down for nothing in the second day. I'm like, oh, I'm not expecting this. And then immediately turned over the second inning to immediately watch Garrett Crochet get his teeth kicked in to the downside of his throat. I mean, that was a, you know, we use the term like, oh, you got his ass kicked. That was a like, those are historic ass kicking. It is rare to be truly stunned by what you're seeing. I was stunned by what I was seeing last night, Mez, what are your thoughts? Same. I mean, how do you, how do you feel anywhere? Anything else? My first thought was it was too zip early on. And I said, I'll get out of this and then, you know, probably shut him down the rest of the way. And then it kind of got me. I probably shut him down the rest of the way. And then it got to four and then the next inning it got to five. And then there was the ball hit off the wall. And then the one hitting to the upper deck and then another hit into the upper deck. So I felt the same way everyone else did. I also looked at and said, is Cora going to come get him? At any point, we're just going to let him get his brains beat in all night. He didn't come out. There was 11 zip. I haven't seen balls like it's one thing to sort of give up a bunch of runs. They were hitting missiles off of them. Missiles. Missiles is right. They were rockets. I have not not only have I never seen him get hit that hard. I don't know if I've seen many guys get hit that hard. No, very unusual. Very unusual. Again, they were bullets or bullets everywhere. I couldn't believe what I was saying. And it was getting worse as it went. Yeah. At five, nothing. I'm glad to hear you say this because at five, nothing, I was thinking to myself, why isn't someone warming up? The plan should be, all right, I need to protect this guy. This is my ace. And so who is the guy? Who is the Red Sox pitcher that he hung out to drive? Oh, Kyle Barakla. That's what that felt like last night. That's exactly what that felt like last night. What did you expect? Eventually, crochet was going to get people out, punch somebody out and then go on from there. I mean, so again, yes, but again, with the velocity of those balls jumping off those twins, bats, it felt like what is this feels like batting practice. Like he's got to get out of there. I don't think this is going to get better. Again, they were hitting rockets. So you blame Cora for leaving them out there. I do. Yeah. I let it get to 11. It was seven, nothing before the home runs even happened. Get him out of there. What are you doing? I couldn't believe it. No, I couldn't either. So two things. Was it the nine hitter? So one guy, the three run home run that almost got to the triple deck in left field. It hit the, I think the signage right at the base of the third deck in left field. That was a three run bomb. Then I think he got the next two guys and then someone came up and hit it even harder into the same spot. I think that was their nine hitter. If I'm not mistaken, they're nine hitter. I think I measured 433 or something. Yeah, that's right. 438. I think it was Jesus. Yeah, that was a smash. Again, that was a smash. I absolutely stunning. So there were two things that pop into your head when something like that's going on. Number one is with the velocity down. He's hurt. It's not right. But even then, like you, so he's still throwing 95, 94 and a half. You know, it's not like he's throwing 90, right? So okay. So that's, you still have to hit it is the point. And you would think just by luck, you'd get a pop up somewhere along the line. The other thing is that he's tipping pitches and they knew what was coming. So it's what, you know, that it's, that's what you, and I wonder if the Red Sox believed that there was some of that going on. And maybe a combination of the two because the velocity was definitely down, but they squared up every, oh my God. So if that's in the cards, look out, pork city. Yeah, look out, look out. That's it. So, and that might be part of the reason Cora left them in. Holy Jesus. But you would think just out of sheer respect, you'd go out and get the ace off the mound, and you'd sort it up, spare him the, the dignity of getting his head kicked in like that. But you know, you probably need innings. I know they activated some kid from triple A today who I've never heard of. Jeff and Norwood, your thoughts on last night. John, yeah, that was not a lot of fun to watch, but I will say that I've never seen a picture of his quality get raked like that. But school got pounded on four seven in Minnesota. And then from the Valdez for Detroit got pounded in Minnesota on four eight. Very much the same way. School will not as bad. That's three left handed pictures getting pounded in Minnesota. So it sounds like a Hank Jr. song. Oh, D. Denver pounded in Minneapolis. Yeah. Those were the left. You got pounded in Minneapolis. Yeah. It's true. Kora made a comment about this after the game. They've been hitting lefties lately. And so I don't know. Maybe there's something there and hitting lefties in that park. Yes, I think. I mean, yeah, maybe it's possible. Yeah, maybe maybe in a better angle. I think, you know, the catcher from with a lefty on the mound, all these teams cheat their face off. Absolutely. Signs, whatever it is. So I don't know what's going on there. You kind of better hope it's that and that it's not the other thing that it's not. I'd be worried about that velocity dip. I'd be worried about that. And that started before last night, right? Last night it was pronounced. So I don't think I don't think it was anything significant in his other outings. But last night it was pronounced. I mean, he was a good four, five, four or five miles and out three or four anyway, under normal. Dean and Shrewsbury on this. Go ahead, Dean. Hi, I was wondering why Chris Salem and all these other pictures are suddenly throwing more cutters. It's sort of like the off speed. The off speed obsession we had two years ago. Everybody's cutters off at such a cookie cutter approach. And we even have a guy on our team named Cutter. That's a pitcher. So it's like they're obsessed with that. So I feel like that's been a couple of years in the making. Yeah, I know. That's not just a this year thing that pitchers like, you know, there's a pitch every day. There's a pitch every so often that becomes the rage. Everybody loves to cut fastball because it's velocity and it, you know, it moves obviously depending on which side you're throwing from like a slider. So it doesn't have the depth of a slider, but it can be difficult for batters to pick up. You know, look, I think all these guys throw too many pitches, but that's got nothing to do with last night. I don't I think I mean, that thing was like batting practice. I have never seen a team barrel up someone like that. I mean, even sucky pitchers. No, like I want to give you the actual complete total line of that of that outing because it's absolutely outrageous. I know. So he walks some guys in the first inning, which I missed, but the second inning was just one rocket shot after the next one and two thirds nine hits 11 runs 10 earned three walks, two homers, zero strikeouts, zero strikeouts from a guy who's one of the best strikeout pitchers in the game. If not the best. It's just what what how do you explain that? All right, you can try. You want weigh in on that also he got pummeled also breaking news this hour. Diana Rossini has resigned as a result of her dalliance, whatever it was with Mike Vrable last week. What's the fallout here in New England for Vrable and that story in general. So here are the details in the update and then we're back to discuss right after this. You know the place everything can turn in a moment in Augusta one swing one hole and the entire leaderboard shifts. 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Just your initial thoughts will give you the floor to talk about what you think as an NFL insider when everything is such in the news with the Mike Frable, Diana Rossini situation that surfaced yesterday. Yeah listen, not my story. Didn't report it. Saw it like everybody else did. And I guess my thought would be, I don't know what's right. I don't know what's wrong. I feel bad for the families involved. It's unfortunate. You know, and of both individuals. And yeah, I guess my first thought would be that they went to the families of the people involved. And you know, I just wish everybody the best and hope everything will go out with everybody. Again, Diana Rossini called it a media frenzy when the fact is the vast vast majority of national legacy or even local legacy. I say legacy media. You know, mainstream media hasn't touched the thing. The only comments on record you've gotten from Schefter, or we just played Colin Coward from yesterday, was them mentioning it to explain why they're not talking about it. What Schefter just said there was the most wishy washy thing you could possibly say. Well, the other thing is... I don't know what's good. I don't know what's bad. I don't really know what to say. Well, the other thing is as soon as you start expressing... You don't know what's right or wrong? Yeah. And once you start... Not my story and report it. Go ahead. No, once you start expressing concern for the families, you're acknowledging that. Yeah, right. And I was just going to say that, man. I said he sort of gave it away. Yes. Like, then you obviously think it's legit. So, you know, like, and it's hard not to believe that. You know, I mean, we've all seen enough to know what the reality is in the world. And so, like, and I'm with you on the part of like, you know, don't sit here and claim victim through the whole thing. So it's just... Well, the whole thing about it's been an anti-frenzy. Again, I just... I can only personalize it. And Maz and I worked at the Boston Herald for a long time. I worked there 19 years. If this story happened in my day and I covered the Patriots, I wouldn't want to cover it either. Like, I don't want it because that's a real pain. Then they have to show up to the stadium every day after, you know, but I would be compelled to buy my boss or they would have said they would have given it to the inside track. The Herald would have gone with this. And the modern day Herald, I find... I get it home delivered. Finally today, I think this is the first time the story landed on the front page. If I'm not mistaken, I didn't notice it previous weeks. I get an early edition. Maybe it was on a later edition that I missed. I went back and looked online today because they have posted their front cover. I don't think it's been on their front cover all week. If it has been, you know, forgive me, you can correct me. But I haven't... I couldn't find it if it was. If it was on the front cover before today, then I missed it. But I tried to look it up and I can't find it. But this is what we would have been doing from day one. Diana Rossini in a really pretty revealing dress with legs out, guns out, you know, guns blazing. On the front page with a picture of Mike Vrabel, sort of a goofy smile pointing at her. Red flag, coach scribe huddle out of bounds, experts say. And I saw this, I'm like, finally guys, or do you want to sell a newspaper or not? I mean, like there's a whole another piece to this, or, you know, we're not here to save the world, or save journalism, or, you know, take some sort of ethical, moral perch. How about business? How about talking and covering something that people are interested in? Do you want to sell up newspaper or not? Like finally, my God. But it's just a way to illustrate this has been anything but a frenzy. Well, looking at, I'm looking at the last nine Herald front pages and this was the first. It took him six days and nine covers to finally put a picture of Rossini in a pretty dress on the front cover. What is the matter with that? I don't know you. I don't recognize you. I don't want to know you. You're a tabloid. What are you there for? If not to titillate, like that's the whole point. Well, how chicken bleep do you have to be as the Herald to not put a picture of her on the front cover for eight days? What a disgrace. You have no right to call yourself a tabloid. I don't recognize you. I don't want to recognize you. What a joke. You know, the globe, we have higher standards and blah, blah, blah. Like I can, I can half get why they're like they'd stick their nose up to it. What how we call it bowtide bum kissers or whatever. The boring broadsheet. Like I get it. You know, higher standard. Oh, stuff it. But at least they can hide behind that. The Herald, what's your excuse? What took you so long? They're supposed to be our New York post. Every day you put her on the cover until the thing, you know, goes away. And now it starts to get worse because now aren't the mainstream media going to be compelled to report on this? I would think so. Again, she just lost her job over it. So I would, I mean, I believe that it's now a media story more than anything else. I don't know how it doesn't get covered now. It was always a media story. Always. That was always the bigger story. Conflict of interest and how you, you know, how you cover your sources and all that. Like that was, that was always sort of the bigger, more legitimate quote unquote kind of angle to this. It is a real media story. I mean, there's parameters and rules and things in that have that nature on that side of it. So that was always, always the story. Not only is it a media story, it's about the oldest one in the book. I mean, but it's like it's an important media. So if you're interested in the role of the media, it's an important one. Again, I'm not looking to save the world. So whatever. But if you do take it seriously, it's like the most one of the most important topics there is in the media. Chad Finn, the globe media writer put it in his Sunday notes, but it was the second item he led with the Nessan score bug. And the second item was Vrabel Rossini. Okay. I mean, I don't like the Nessan score bug either. This is a more interesting story. Are we going to cover it? You can or not. I mean, it's all up to you. It's different. It's changed. But if the Herald can't do this, you can't do anything. Good grief. But the part of her statement I don't like is that she plays the victim. When page first, when the page first item first appeared, she wrote, and this was again in her resignation letter to the athletic that was obtained by the Associated Press. She writes to her former boss, Stephen Ginsburg, the executive editor of the athletic. When the page six item first appeared, the athletic supported me unequivocally, expressed confidence in my work and pride in my journalism. For that, I am grateful. In the days that followed, unfortunately, commentators in various media have engaged in self-feeding speculation that is simply unmoored from the facts. Moreover, this media frenzy is hurtling forward without regard for the review process the athletic is trying to complete. It continues to escalate, fueled by repeated leaks, and I have no interest in submitting to a public inquiry that has already caused far more damage than I am willing to accept. Rather than allowing this to continue, I have decided to step aside now before my current contract expires on June 30th. I do so not because I accept the narrative that has been constructed around this episode, but because I refuse to lend it further oxygen or to let it define me or my career. So I just don't like the playing the victim part. You made the bed. And furthermore, she's still protesting a little too much. Like, you know, the narrative that's been constructed around this episode. It's been minimal at best. It really hasn't been much out there. But even if it ended, even if this episode ended in the hot tub and the rooftop of the bungalow at sunset, even if it ended there, that's cool. No, no, it's not. No, and getting you and I were just talking about this off the air. I mean, there isn't an editor in America that would think that that is fine. No, I'm not kidding. There's not an error. And so again, like none of us were hiding in the closet, you know what I mean? So who the hell knows as far as that? But just the hot tub photo and the holding hands is enough. It's just it's in that job. You can't do it. You can't do it. What frenzy are you talking about? I mean, I'm not on the deep inner. I'm not on the web period. Hardly. So I'm sure there's corners of the web where people are being complete a holes, but that's with everything. What frenzy is she referring to? People have been basically hands off the thing, I think just the opposite. Just the opposite. I think people have gone way easy on them and him, especially. So there's no frenzy that I've seen. You want frenzy? George in New Hampshire. Go ahead, George. How you doing, Mike? I got a really, you know, I've given you a lot of grief, Mike, over the years, but I really have to commend you on your take on this situation regarding the media. And again, Mike, I called you yesterday and I told you that she was done. She was done. I called you yesterday. I know, I know, George. I know. I think most people felt that was, you know, yeah. And another thing too, Mike, is I got it. Like I said, I have to commend you. Okay. I haven't really done anything. Why are you shaking your head? Because why does it always have to be I was right? You know, like everybody wants to turn it into a story about themselves. Most everyone thought she was toast. I know. Yeah. It's just as soon as they started reviewing, look from the beginning. Once there's the doubt introduced and you're in that job, it's over. It's over. There's no way you're going to escape that. The pictures are damning enough again, again, without having someone hiding in the closet actually doing anything else. Who the hell knows? But like, you know what, so what? He was the only guy who knew. Good call, George. That just drives me crazy. Jim in Connecticut. Go ahead, George. Yeah, I was right. I hate that. Yeah, I just ready. Yeah, good. Okay. Hey, guys, one angle that I don't think has come up very much and Mike, you just alluded to it a little bit ago that Vrable hasn't taken a lot of heat for this. Every corporation, as you mentioned before, one of the breaks has a sexual misconduct policy. Yeah. And a lot of people think about that as, you know, peer to peer or what's inside your inside your workplace. But you also mentioned and you are correct. Yes, it includes vendors and clients and all that. Yes, absolutely. So what's the give me your point. Correct. My angle is I'd be very shocked if the Crafts Corporation isn't doing their own investigation of that situation in the context of do you possibly see a potential issue for Vrable. Let me tell you what, if he were five and 12, and they thought he was making too much money, yeah, they would go after him. Yep. Yep, you bet. He just went to the Super Bowl and everyone loves him. So they're not going to do anything. But any mistake you make like this is directly related to what you produce for the company. Yeah, this was Gerard Mayo that last year. This would be, boom, yeah, that's right. Maybe they'd be in the front and center. They try and weasel out of the contract using it. Well, look, this is basic. Don't you think this is basic? What's going on with Roussini? I mean, she's reaching the end of her deal and she didn't have one, right? Yeah. So maybe they were looking for an excuse to push her out the door. This wasn't they made she made it easy on him. So you know, look, when you get to within the final couple of months, usually that if they really want you that gets addressed earlier than that. If Shepter was in the hot tub canoodling. Do we do he lose his job? I know, man, don't take it so literally. But I mean, you know what I mean, if he were covering women's sports. Yes, exactly. And he was at the end of his deal. Oh, I see what you're saying because he's good. I'm just saying, right? It's suspension. It's inversely related. Or it's, you know, it's it's proportionate to what you produce. Absolutely like everything. Exactly. Yeah, everything. Again, the guy who's the star player is going to get away with more. You'll put up with that. But this is the point on rabble. Yeah. If he were on if he were more vulnerable, if he were on an expensive contract and the team wasn't performing, the crafts would treat it. They would use it as leverage against him. You mean if he were like Bill at the end, they go after him. Yes, or they use it. And maybe they could maybe that maybe they're their sexual harassment policy or their whatever you want to call that. Yeah, their HR policies. Maybe he did run a file. There might even be a character and embarrassment clause or whatever, you know, I call it embarrassment. But you know what I mean? Yeah, some sort of public something that reflects poorly on the organization. I mean, very well should if you're the Patriots, you should be you should be asking about this. And there should be some consequence. Now I don't know what that is. So, you know, whether that is a slap on the wrist, or, you know, I don't know if you I don't know that they can do anything to them from a from a, you know, a disciplinary standpoint. Listen, but they should let them know that they're not happy with it and that, you know, they don't want it to happen again. Yeah. Just stay off the page six. You know, I know it craft is landed there, but he owns a team. I own the team. I don't. I'm not subject to the HR policy. I wrote the HR policy. Everyone else don't land on page six. I mean, if you're going to ask your players to not make news off the field, then don't you have to sort of subscribe to the same rule? Yes. Long commercial free segment comes your way next. More ways to play the moments that matter. New sportsbook customers bet just $5. And if your bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets instantly. Download the Draft King Sportsbook app now and use code 985. That's code 985 to turn five bucks into $300 in bonus bets if your bet wins. In partnership with Draft Kings, the crown is yours. For more information on sportsbook.draftkings.com, please visit sportsbook.draftkings.com. You do envision resting some guys? No, really. No, really. You know, guys were banged up. They got their rest. They're out there right now. If anyone's still whining, I might think about it. I might give, I might think about it. But other than that, I want to go with the guys who I think who maybe possible start to play us. Just a quick Bruins minute as they close out their season tonight. Stakes. Well, there's really no stakes unless you care about who they play in the first round. They right now are the first wild card. If they win tonight in any way, shape, or form, two points guarantees that they're the first wild card, which means they would face Buffalo in the first round. If they lose tonight or only get a point, yeah, if they lose tonight in any way, shape, or form, Ottawa could catch them. I think Ottawa plays tomorrow night or tonight. Ottawa plays whenever they play tonight or tomorrow night would catch them and you would then face Carolina. Marco Sturm, he's going to play, said he's going to play everybody tonight because he wants, well, you didn't mention anything about the opponent. He just wanted to keep him fresh or go with what he's going to go with in the playoffs to continue to iron out the kinks in their game in game 82, if you will. Should they care about who they play? Yeah, absolutely. 100%. And the other thing is, I think this one's easy because of the way it sets up. Today's Tuesday, you're not going to play until the weekend, Saturday. So I don't want all that time off for guys who missed the last game too. No, play. Play. Go out and play, get everybody the game, then lick your wounds and also engineer your opponent. Your chances are better against Buffalo. So it's the NHL playoffs. Anything can happen. Carolina could get bounced by someone in the first round, just like Tampa did against Columbus a couple of years, a number of years ago. Yeah, send them out there. Kevin, can I ask you a quick favor while we're talking about this? Are there look ahead lines? In other words, are there odds on Bruins' Hurricanes and then are there odds on Bruins' Sabres? I think most of us think the Sabres are a better draw, as you just said, man. Would you agree with that Murray? The Sabres are a better draw? Absolutely. Why? Because Carolina is a team that's year in, year out in the playoffs and also the Bruins, I think, are at a mental disadvantage having to go into that building that they can really never win in. I don't want them to have to play the Hurricanes. The Sabres, first time in the playoffs in what, 15 years, whatever the hell it is? Yeah, they're a very good team, but I don't know, young, they're not seasoned in terms of getting into the playoffs like Carolina, year in, year out. I think the Bruins would have a puncher's chance against that Buffalo team. Carolina, I think it would be a five game series at best. They're going to be an underdog either way. Yeah. Right. And look, I was just looking at some of the numbers. Statistically, they're very comparable. I mean, goals scored, goals against, goal differential wins. Buffalo only has a couple of fewer wins than Carolina does. Listen, I hate the Bruins against the Hurricanes. I think that is a pushing waiting to happen. But that doesn't mean I think like, oh yeah, bring on Buffalo. No, Buffalo should smoke you too. They're better than you. But you did take three or four of them from during the year, I think, if I'm not mistaken. And as you mentioned, I can talk myself into reasons why you would beat Buffalo. They have institutional loser them in their DNA. Yeah. They haven't been here. There's going to be a lot of pressure on them to not be one and done the first time in the playoffs in 17 years, blah, blah, blah. Like, I get it. I get it. You just sort of the aesthetics of facing the Sabres versus and not that the Carolina Hurricanes are the, you know, 1970s Montreal Canadians. But Buffalo is one of the great loser franchises of our lifetime. Yep. You'd always want to face the Sabres. Definitely. Yeah, they lose the first one. People up there will start asking questions. Maybe they squeeze the sticks a little tighter. Let me tell you, they'll smoke you too. Maybe. But I mean, that's right. Like, I just don't want to act like, oh, yeah, Buffalo, bring them on. No, they're better. They're better than you two. They're just better in a different way. I bet you the odds are comparable. So that would be my guess. I bet you Vegas looks at it as the same. I bet you're, I don't know if they do, you know, Kevin's still looking. I don't know. But my guesses are probably, as Matt said, probably one in the same. I mean, Carolina's got 111 points. Buffalo's got 108. Gold differential plus 55 plus 48. Goals for 294 for Carolina 285 for Buffalo. What's Buffalo's goalie situation, Kev? I'm sorry to throw this on you. Haven't they been platooning guys? They don't have a set guy, do they? I believe they have been. It's Oco Pekka, Lukanan. And Alex Lyon. Is it Alex Lyon? Is he a Finn? Lukanan is a Finn. I'm the Pekka. Pekka Rinne. I'm just guessing. Bring on the Sabres. And then Alex Lyon. I've changed my mind. Bring on Buffalo. Alex Lyon started the series with Florida the year the Bruins collapsed. And then they went to Bob Rowski afterward. And he's their second goalie? I believe he still is this day. They've had a weird situation for being a really good team. They've had kind of a weird goalie situation this year. I thought they were unsettled in that. It's just take your chance on that. But if they're going to start the Finn, yeah, bring on the Sabres. Another choking Finn. But Carolina's got Boosie, right? Yeah. He looked a little loosey. He was loosey. He said the second. Loosey, boozy. No doubt he did not look good in that game. But bring me the choking Finn any day of the week. I mean, they'll still beat you. They should beat you. But I'll take my chances. Yeah, I'd take a shot with Buffalo. It's primarily been Lukanan since the end of last month. They were doing the Swamin' Allmark every other game, but it's been Lukanan primarily since. I'm in. I'm in on the Sabres and the choking Finn. It just bothers me that they're going to play everybody tonight. So Posternaut can get his 30th goal and or 100th point. You know, they're just going to stat hump the crap out of that, which is just so gross. And the only thing more gross than the fact that they're just doing it to get him his stats is that the organization lets it happen, encourages it. The media that covers the team doesn't call it out. A lot of the fans don't care. It's so grimy. Just stat hump him so Posternaut can get to 100 points. I just hate it. But that's me. All right, so you know, can we quickly touch on what happened with the Maple Leafs last night? Oh, oh, oh, or do you want to do that? No, they just the Maple Leafs did a tank to remember. Did a tank of all tanks. And they're in there now in the fifth spot you have the Toronto Maple Leafs first round pick its top five protected. Starting about two, three weeks ago, they went on a tanking journey to remember. And they've got to number five couple of games ago. Last night they were up three nothing in the first period gave that lead back. They were up five to three in the third period gave it back, including an own goal where I swear their defenseman shot it into his own net. Did you see this play? Yeah, I have not seen it. I forgot about that was going to mention I wrote it down in our notes. It's something the league should look into. They gave away they were up three nothing and then five three in the third. And they gave away the lead on a play in which I'm pretty sure their own defenseman swiped it into his own net. As bad as any NBA tank job you want to see is what the Toronto Maple Leafs just did. It had a real feel of in between periods. Someone came down and said, Guys, what are you doing here? Listen, we need to lose this game you idiots. And then they lost it in regulation to make sure they didn't even get a point. Right now they have one game left. They're a point clear of Seattle who's got two games left. I think Toronto has Ottawa in their last game. Ottawa needs it for the same reason you do if they want to avoid Carolina. That games either tonight or tomorrow night. There's no way in hell Toronto's going to win that one after all the work they've put in tanking. And so you just got poked out of a top five pick presuming the ping pong balls go the way they the way they are supposed to now from a karmic standpoint. I'd like to think that they don't right not just for the way that they tank that game but they're also the Maple Leafs right and they are bathed in pure loser them right and if you're going to you know that you can't you see those squids saying hey hey it's been a bad season but at least we're going to get a top five pick it's a protected we're not going to lose it to the Bruins and the next thing you know they lose it to the Bruins that feels like them but that that that's what you deserve if you if you tank if you purposely lose you shouldn't be rewarded by the sporting sporting gods by the hockey gods and so I'd like to think they're going to get pork by the ping pong balls because they just tempted fate a little too badly with this thing have you seen the own goal yet this play is unbelievable he shot it into his own net beat his goalie clean not only beat him clean it was a good backhand it was top corner what the Maple Leafs have been doing is embarrassing wow holy crap they deserve to get unbelievable they deserve to get pork by the ping pong balls give that man a raise holy crap it wasn't like just office an own goal off his skate or what's no no no no he fired it into his own net you're receiving like that no no and he's a big fake in the fact that someone was holding a stick down he rightful that sucker okay meanwhile lead story today breaking this hour Diana Rossini has resigned from the athletic after her episode with Mike Vrable last week what does that mean for Vrable and what are your thoughts on the story first the details here from Big Jim and then we're right back no commercials here just 90 seconds and we're right back no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no