Barack Obama Says Aliens Are Real | Feb 17, 2026

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It is Macrodosing. It's good to be back in studio with you guys. I missed you all so very deeply. Missed your smiling faces. We got a lot to talk about. First of all, a lot happened while I was gone. Apparently, I don't know, Aaron, you look like maybe you went goth and big T is Buffett maxing. Well, I know you're off island time now, but it's 59 degrees in Chicago today. So I am on island time. My vacation is this afternoon. I love it. I'm going on vacation. I love it. Yeah. You're wasting away in Margaritaville. Yeah. I went for a walk yesterday, wore shorts. It is excellent. Isn't it? It was probably five degrees too cool for shorts. Maybe only three, but I did it anyway. That's when you got to step into shorts, when it's five degrees too cool. Yeah. Better five degrees too early than five degrees too late. Agreed. That's what I say. It is beautiful here. It's awesome. We're probably getting faked out right now. We're getting hit with a hezi. What are you talking about? I'm goth. We're just wearing a dark hoodie. We're wearing all black. Fucking Nike. What are you talking about? Yeah. I mean, you kind of look like you, you know, like give my regards to the fellow Doom players online. That's crazy. I like your flannel. That's actually kind of fire. Thank you. Is that the Darius Rucker collection? This is the Darius Rucker NFL team collection. Yeah. A lot of talk. A lot of talk recently about the commanders changing up the logo going into next year. I've been seeing that. Titans new logo. Love that. Love that. We need it. Do they have a mock it out? Is there? we're hearing maybe a shield we're hearing maybe a spear uh maybe getting rid of that w the weird w that we have everywhere so i saw the spear it's just the florida state helmet logo you can't do that well we've also the commanders had the spear a long time ago like the i want to say we had the spear in the 50s did florida state i don't know i don't know but we we have brought the spear back i remember during the spurrier era at uh at washington we had i think like 2000 2001 we brought the spear back a little bit yeah you know who could push you know who's a commander and who could push for maybe himself to be the logo who the commander-in-chief i have to have donald trump be the logo of the team i mean listen if they want some uh some great tax breaks on that new stadium yeah well if he if he was the the logo i would imagine that we would be like very very good at cheating right like he would not accept loss yeah i mean he he's not putting his name on something he would not and he would he would throw everything at the wall listen big t let me ask you this if barack obama was the logo of the tennessee volunteers remember he was a community organizer he's a volunteer if Barack Obama was the logo and you guys uh bare minimum went to the college football semi-final every year and let's say once every five years you'd win a title we win the national championship once every five years yeah that's fine you take that yeah put Barry on Obama is a it was a Republican by today's standards that's not not true he was actually not as liberal as he like campaigned on i'll give you that he was more like middle of the road moderate i think he's probably more liberal than he let on actually i think if he ran today there's no chance he could win the nomination on the platform he ran on in 2008 god the gay marriage stuff yes i i agree against gay marriage very uh hard on immigration yeah i think um yeah the drones always have been hard on immigration not as of lately the drone warfare there's that whole thing you think the biden administration was tough on immigration i told myself i wasn't gonna argue about politics anymore if you think the body administration gave open borders, they did. Who gives a fuck? No, but I'm not trying to get into an argument. You think they were tough on immigration? I'm genuinely sincere. If you think that they ran on open borders, then they did. That's all that matters. Who cares? Ran on? I'm confused. Clearly. But who cares, right? Everybody has their own truth. We're all just living in a fucking... I'm asking you. I don't give a fuck anymore that's my new motto I don't give a shit if you think that's what happened that's what happened alright out on the course they're the PGA Tour's best players but in the arena they're prime time and season 2 of TGL presented by SoFi is back with lights cameras action we're talking big moments big personalities big names in the stands all on the big screen Big time matchups with shot clocks, hammer drops, timeouts, overtime, and playoffs. It's city versus city. Squad versus squad. This sport just hits different under the light. It's TGL presented by SoFi. Keep up. It's golf. Tune in to every match. Only on ESPN. I don't think that... Here's why I'm pissed about Obama. What the fuck with that alien thing, dude? Oh, I saw you all saying... That's some sucker shit, Barack. You know it is, too. See me I kind of Believe him No but he got He says now Oh I was just having fun With the With the tone of the interview And playing along I do think You're the fucking Former president of the United States When you say some shit like Yeah there's aliens That means more Than if it's Theo Vaughn Being like Hey RFK Jr. Do you think Yeah I did I I booved Heroin Off of an aliens Tame one time Back in 1970 It was clearly a planted question. You don't ask the former president, are aliens real? He says yes, and then you just move on. Right. You follow up. It was a planted question. I do see, I think he was saying he believes they're real. He believes they're real. But if you're the former president of the United States, you're speaking with a bit more authority than just a guy that's like, hey, okay, let's get high in our dorm rooms and put on pink fluid and talk about the universe. Like, I'm not asking you for your theories about whether it's more likely than not. You know, like, we know Fermi's paradox, Barack. You just said that there was aliens, and now you're trying to walk him back. Okay, I just saw the clip. So he said, they're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not being kept, and there's no underground facilities. Yeah, I don't know. But he didn't say, I think they're real. He said, they're real. Yeah, I don't know. I think we're just, I don't just reading too much into it. I think he thinks of it like we all think, well, most normal human beings think of it. Like, if you look at, like, statistically, they have to, there has to be life out there. It just has to. What is it called? The Drake equation? It has to be. But I didn't look at it like, he knows, he has confirmation. You know, I didn't say it like that. Here's his quote. I was trying to stick with the spirit of the speed round. That's awesome. By the way, we got to start doing a speed round. If the speed round, if the aura is so strong around the speed round that you've got former presidents bending their normal answering styles to accommodate your bit, that's a powerful bit you've created. Next question has to be drone strikes. Good or bad? Yeah. We should do a speed round. no follow-ups no uh elaboration you can just answer the question and move on and that's it can we try to get obama yeah i'll i'll reach out okay tell them no speed round no speed round yeah but then all nuance there are follow-ups yeah there will be follow-ups and then that's when we hit them with the speed round yeah we'll reach out to his people no the lightning round it is funny because that one time we were like what if we got george santos and then we did yeah so anything's possible. He's to say we can't get Obama. And he was a sitting member of the government. Hit up Obama. See what Obama's doing these days. He was at the NBA All-Star Game. That's right, yeah. I saw him dancing with Michelle celebrating Valentine's Day. What'd you think of the All-Star Game? I turned it on. I found out during the fourth quarter slash game and turned it on. It was like 39 to 6, but all the tweets I saw were like, this is great. It was better. It was better. If you get mad about the All-Star game, that's a you problem. We know what the All-Star game is. Guys aren't really going to try that hard, but we did have a few guys that were trying hard. Ant tried hard. Wimby tried hard. They set the tone early. It was better than it has been in the past. You can only ask for a little bit of improvement. If you were NBC, would you put the NBA All-Star game at 1 p.m. local time to accommodate the Winter Olympics? No. Okay, because I was thrown off by that as well. I would not. It was like 6 o'clock, and I saw that they were in the fourth game of the All-Star game. I would say kindly go fuck yourself. You know what I would do? I would just make basketball in the Winter Olympics. I've always wondered that as well. It should be. Because the NHL, it's in the middle of the season. Yeah. It's during the NBA season too. Yeah, oh no, we're going to lose some of the mid-February NBA regular season right oh shit i i think it'd be great to have it during during uh you know why they'll never do that well ratings i don't even think it's that i think it's that the the players will because now the season will go into what the end of june maybe to july 4th and the players that'll be the catalyst for like a 70 game season and the owners will never have that so they'll never let that happen. Right, yeah. The owners want to sell more tickets. It would make more sense if it was a Winter Olympics sport. It's a winter sport. Yeah. I guess it doesn't fit with the vibe of the Winter Olympics. But the vibe is what you make it. What is the vibe of the Winter Olympics? Just cold? Ice. Yeah. Ice has to be involved in some aspect. Is there a sport that doesn't have ice or snow? Ice or snow? I'm counting snow as a form of ice. Well, technically, water is a form of all of that. Yeah. Swimming. No snow or ice? I think that would be hard to cover. Let me look up these Winter Olympic sports. Because even the ones that are inside are on ice. Yeah. Bobsleds on ice. It's really just... It's DEI Olympics for the Scandinavian countries. It's like, oh, we want medals too. Okay. Canada's not even getting any. We'll do your own little weird sports that you've invented. Do they have a gold yet? Who, Canada? Yeah. Let's see. I don't think they did as of yesterday. Okay. Alpine skiing, biathlon, bobsled, cross-country skiing. Canada has one gold medal. Yeah, it all involves ice or snow. In the women's 1,000. Oh, wait. time out oh wait time out time out that's a fake gold medal that's not real what they have it listed as um gold but this woman got silver i don't know what canada won a gold medal in right now oh just kidding in freestyle skiing yeah i mean they're all basically the same sport I would like to see professional hockey players have to compete in figure skating. Or vice versa. Have the figure skaters play ice hockey. Against each other or against the hockey players? Against the hockey players. Okay, so each team has to have one figure skater? You have to have one figure skater, yeah. And he has to play five minutes. Yeah. I think the figure skaters would be better at hockey than vice versa. Ooh, embrace debate. I think that's actually interesting. So they'd get killed. Like they'd get legit maimed. Yeah. But I, so they don't have any of the basic skill other than skating. Like they don't know how to handle the stick, pass, shoot. The hockey players can't figure skate, but they can skate. Yeah, but I don't think they're graceful. Yeah. No, for sure. But there's not another... I think they are like 5% of the way to becoming a figure skater. The figure skaters are 0% of the way to becoming a hockey player. Well, they can skate. Yeah, but I mean, they're going to get destroyed out there. Oh, yeah. And they don't know how to pass or anything, presumably. But I think they could pick it up in a intermediate, novice way faster than Jack Hughes could learn how to do a spin on the ice. I disagree. No. I think you're underselling how difficult it is to play professional hockey. I think I could say the same about figure skating, though. Yeah, it wouldn't be easy. but also they're like they don't have the size necessary like well it's also different because one's a contact sport one isn't so you have that advantage immediately of like well no one's gonna hit the yes i agree spinning yeah but if you were doing figure skater on figure skater hockey it's kind of like saying who would be better at the other sport uh a football player doing gymnastics or a gymnast doing football it's like well football player football player doing gymnastics yeah yeah but once again if you're putting simone byles up against miles garrett she would die she'd die yeah no shit maybe she just so therein lies the answer maybe she just like die on the bounce jump over yeah i've fallen his neck yeah fall in a sec yeah maybe she just jumps over maybe does a little spin he's so she's so small he doesn't even see her right yeah can't hit her she's really fast she's super fast she'd probably jack him up actually she'd probably run his ass over now that i say it she's getting some lessons from her yeah her husband i'm sure he could teach her yeah she just jumped right at his face and just knock him out like a little cannonball backflip on him uh yeah so the winter olympics i'm not i'm not really into anything besides the hockey in them good good for the hockey we're gonna get our show down with canada that's all That's all I'm here for. As far as I'm concerned, the Winter Olympics is one giant tournament to celebrate the United States playing hockey against Canada in the finals. I agree. I haven't watched anything other than the hockey. Yeah. It's pretty much what you're curling matches. What do you think? I fuck with it. I think there should be like bars with curling in it. Yeah. That would be lit. There might be. The U.S. has like a 54-year-old guy on their team. Yeah, this is lit. And I like their shirts. All the countries have pretty dope shirts. Have you seen the controversy? Buddy cheated. Buddy cheated. Yeah, Buddy definitely cheated. And he tried to act like he didn't. What are you doing? Buddy cheated big time. Arian, I found a place called Kaiser Tiger that has curling lanes and food and drinks. That's fire. I mean, what? Where? In Houston? Almost certainly not. I actually am trying to find out where it is. It's in West Loop. It's here? Yeah, Kaiser Tiger is right down the street from us. It's two minutes away. Really? That makes sense why it was the first thing that popped up, probably. You can do the shuttle from there to the United Center. Really? Yeah. We should go curling. It's a sausage place. Kaiser Tiger is a sausage bacon beer bar. Okay. Aaron, next time you're in town, let's go curling. I'm down. I've always wanted to curl. How serendipitous I like it It's in like a shed Sausage, bacon, and beer? That's what they say Yeah, it's like kind of German vibe Like they have big pretzels You can get different types of Like schnitzels and shit? Yeah Jumbo Bavarian pretzel Worcestershire sauce what's your sauce bacon board four delicious cuts of gourmet bacon with house mustards and toasted bread sounds like a nightmare I'm intrigued yeah listen I would like to I would like to curl it seems like it's a fun time but there's also no real rules so it's like you call your own fouls so I don't know if you can even really cheat yeah it's very much a sport of honor I thought it was like once you let go of the thing you can't you can't manipulate it like once you let go of it you can't manipulate it I think I think Buddy let go of it and he kind of like I mean kind of like touched it a little bit I thought that's what the I mean I didn't look deep enough into it but I thought just off rip that's what I thought I thought it was that he touched it after the the line I but I don't know yeah I could be I know but he definitely did that oh yeah so you're not allowed to touch it but it's also like kind of a gentleman's sport where you get caught and then you have to like self-admit to it oh there's another a woman just did it from the canada team as well oh really so it's a it's a cultural thing i might be man they're getting desperate some dude says what has happened to the sport i love once every four years for two weeks are the olympics not as cool as they used to be the summer olympics are cool winter olympics have never been cool but even the summer olympics i feel like have fallen off you know who made this the winter olympics cracking oh you remember this cat pft remember Sean White. Yeah. Of course. He made that shit poppin' for a hot little minute. The Flying Tomato. Talking Mountain Dews, baby. Yeah, but it was never really, Winter Olympics was never really a thing that we cared for. Summer Olympics was always cracking. I'm just thinking back to two years ago. The basketball was elite. But other than that, I don't think I watched any of that. The basketball was great. Track and field is always good. I enjoy the sprints, the 100-meter, 200-meter. I like the relays. there's some stuff about summer i can get behind like golf is kind of fun uh the seventh rugby is fun summer olympics just takes an absolute steamy shit we were fucking locked in with cole hawker that's that's right that was okay yeah so we we watched some running and best believe i'm betting on that shit then it comes back around i don't know about cole you know he might be washed but but like golf would be cooler if it's like the sports that you would want to watch already have bigger competitions like soccer who cares about winning the olympics in soccer because you have the world cup right so it's like you know it's just sports that don't have bigger things already right speaking of golf you see anthony kim yeah that was really dope man he um for those that don't know anthony kim used to be he was like next up after tiger nike got behind him he was he was he was really good i think he won a couple tournaments and then he tore his achilles i think and kind of just went away and then got heavy into drugs and shit started started his comeback signed with live uh lost his live status and then came back to live to to compete in the qualifier so got back into live like on a strength like earned it and then fought his way back and then won a tournament that's fucking amazing though it is pretty incredible yeah very cool story it's amazing and then call the mark howard won this week uh at pebble that was dope that was that was also very cool that was uh did you watch the end of that tournament who was the guy that was uh that was like two strokes off that hit his ball pretty much into the ocean oh yeah and you know what's crazy about that he he hit his ball he found his ball hit his ball again it bounced back in the ocean yeah and he had to go hit it from where cross land take a penalty stroke did all that shit and still got a bogey got a bogey on it yeah that is the difference between professional golfers and us clearly would be a 10 yeah anybody else it felt he just got a bogey it was a par five right par five yeah it felt like he was hitting nine at at one point and it was like no this is uh this is his uh approach for par and then he gets a chance at a one putt bogey. He hit the ball into the Pacific Ocean, but they found the ball on the beach. He had to hit it like over a shipwreck. There was like an old rowboat and ropes and shit on the beach they had to chip over, hit it off the seawall. Then it actually went into the real ocean like the water and then he got to just go back to the middle of the fairway. I didn't understand that one. That's the rule. It's like a lost ball. So you have to go, you take a penalty stroke and you go back to where you originally hit the ball from. But that was two shots ago. Because that's where it, that's where it entered OB. So where the shot that made it go OB, you go back. But he took a penalty stroke for going back though. Right. So he could have, he could have taken that drop before even going down onto the beach is what you're saying. Yeah. But they said he found it. And you know, players like that are like, I can get up and down from there. Say par. but I mean just the fact that he did all of that shit and still got a bogey but the shitty part about that was I mean it didn't cost him but Colin Morikawa was in a fairway I know wait waiting 20 minutes to hit his approach shot and he needs birdie to win and so he has 20 minutes he's pacing his 20 minutes he has to sit there and wait for this dude to do all this which I'd have been hot but he ended up sticking it well he got a close chipped up for you going had a little tap in birdie for the dub i i respect what he did on that chip in too because he uh he was in the rough he was like i'm gonna putt this shit yeah i'm not gonna chip it hand me hand me the putter but another thing okay you got the wind like blowing in from the left ob's left so he plays he hits a four iron like 238 to get it within like 12 feet like shit is amazing though it's amazing it is It's pretty incredible. I've always betted on him to win, and he never did, and he finally did. I'm happy for him, man. I'll be rooting for Kyle Walker. I like his game. Yeah, he seems like a nice guy in the brief opportunities we've had to meet him and interview him. And then after the win, he was just like, yeah, we just cried because we're expecting a child. So we figured that now would be the best time to say that. Look at God. Look at God. This is what happens in golf all the time. It's like either you have a baby and you win the US Open or like you win a tournament the week that you find out that you expecting another kid Yeah it just a constant The hack to golfing is just having sex with your significant with your wife Having marital, lots of marital sex. Lock in on that because Scotty Scheffler's wife popped out pregnant, super pregnant all of a sudden, like could have a baby right before the Masters. New pregnancy just dropped. New pregnancy just dropped. Just letting you know in case she has her baby right before the Masters. She's fetus maxing right now. Yes. Okay. And he said that he would walk away. If she went into labor. If she went into labor. I also think that storyline was taken a little bit out of hand. It's the same thing. Remember Kylie Kelsey in the 2023 or 2024 Super Bowl had the same thing. She traveled with her OB. Yeah. See, I think with Scotty, though, it's probably true. If his wife went into labor morning, it depends. Is it Friday? Is it Thursday? Is it Saturday of the Masters? Is it Sunday of the Masters? Thursday you leave 1,000%. Or he would at least. Friday I'm pretty sure you leave. Saturday? Where is he on Saturday? I disagree. You lose on Friday, you don't make any money at all. So you would say Saturday is more likely than Friday? Yes. And also it would be their second kid. So like he's seen the first. I also think if he left on Sunday, like in contention, that would be like father of the decade. Actually, dudes, we should not want Scotty to do that. That says you all look the standard would be way too high. Scotty, you just got to be homey for us. And you kind of got to thug this one out. OK. Was it was it Josh Naylor who left during the World Series last year? I think so I think so yeah I believe that was Josh Neal but yeah Scotty I thought he was going to win I thought Scotty was going to do it when he went out there and shot 62-63 now our boy Jake Knapp is hot we need to have a conversation about Jake Knapp this might be the year we were probably a little premature sure on the bet last year? Yeah. I think this might be the year for him. At least one of the majors. I'm going to put a bet on him every major this year. I think I will too. So my question, Jake Knapp, if you're listening, don't listen to this. Is he a choker? Is he a little bit of a choker? No, I think this is where you get seasoned. You get seasoned into playing top-tier golf against top-tier players in big tournaments. Yeah. Right? This is Pebble. This is an iconic tournament. Okay, you're getting seasoned. This is how you... This is a rite of passage. You got to lose these tough battles. Figure out what you're doing wrong in these moments. I believe... I'm in a Jake... Jake Knapp. Jake Knapp camp. Jesus Christ. We need a nickname for his fan base. Knapp. Knapp's is not it. Knapp's? napkins no that's actually kind of dope the napkins I kind of like it like kin as in family yeah I get it I get it and we just all carry around napkins with us so we can recognize who is a napkin napsters nappy roots definitely not that's not going to do it I guess napkins it is. I'm offended I haven't been consulted on this. Oh, yeah, it's true. It's my cousin. Oh, shit. Is that actually your cousin? Yes. Like in real life? Second cousin. I didn't. How come you? Oh, you're related to him? You haven't told us this. No, but I knew y'all would. I was seeing if y'all believe it. Oh. You could have. I could have. It's not a common. I haven't come across many people. There was Greg Knapp. Rest in peace. He was the coach on the Falcons for a while. Yeah. Oh, he was my coach. Damn. Oh, really? He coached me at Houston. Yeah, I think he died a few years ago. Good dude. Jake Knapp, obviously. I don't know if there's really been any others. Not a lot of you guys out there. So what would you recommend that we call ourselves? Yeah, I mean, at some point I've encountered all the ones that y'all just listed. Nappy Roots? Not that one. Napkins. Napster. um i could see a coach calling you that when you're young come here a little napster yeah napple jacks was one i had for a little while oh napple sauce i know this is white folks always did this um i i didn't notice it but like they'll put an e at the end of everything but it's like a y but you know i'm saying like so they'll call you uh like they call it shabby or dorsey you know i'm saying like just whatever your last name they'll put an e baseball and hockey love to do that big time hockey yeah yeah jake see you know and then if it already ends in that sound i think it's e they put an er er yeah yeah yeah should be foster australian for beer they didn't really do it to us too much it was it was just like a that was that's what they did brixi rigsy yeah like yeah yeah rigsy hey what's up rigsy i kind of like nap nappy nappy napkins for the napkins for the napkins we gotta do napkins i guess it sucks but we gotta do it jk those are good initials oh yeah yeah i like that it's like show your napkins like yeah but that would that not be waving a white flag yeah it could be it could be it doesn't have to be white a different color yeah i would say 99 of napkins are white it's fair um i'm looking at the odds right now i don't see any any nap odds for the masters but he did look good he hasn't has he qualified yet yeah but that didn't stop us last year you remember we were betting on him and we're like these odds are incredible for a guy that's finishing in like the top five of most of these tournaments not realizing that he had not qualified for the masters yet and uh he ended up not qualifying at all so let's see as of early 25 jake knapp has not qualified for 25 but oh it's 26 though yes it is yeah it's 26 tell me tell me what you have to do to qualify i know if you win a tournament then you are qualified it said he has not yet secured a qualification spot for the 26 Masters. While he is fully exempt on the PGA Tour through 2020, he must qualify for the 2026 Masters via high official world ranking of golf. Or a PGA Tour victory. So he has to win a tournament. So he has to secure a win or a top 50 position in the world rankings. Okay, top 50. Where is he at right now? Let's see here. take that world right there uh right now he is 62 damn yeah 62 yep all right no 55th that's the updated after this weekend yeah yeah okay wait it says 55th to 62nd i guess they haven't okay what i'm hearing from you is that we can do this as possible. What I'm hearing from you is that Jake Knapp should be playing in the Masters this year. And if you're wondering, like, why are we obsessed with Jake Knapp, it's because Arian just told me to watch his swing one time. And then I saw his swing and I was like, holy shit, that is a buttery smooth swing. It was very smooth. And then I started watching him and then every time I'd watch him on TV, the announcers started to catch on. They started to play like Fred Couples and his swing lined up with Jake Knapp and his swing. And it's just, it's hypnotic. Like the updated version of Fred Gubbles. Yeah, it's a great swing to watch. Also, Aaron, I just got that book delivered. Have you cracked it open yet? I have not cracked it open. I just saw it this morning. I got it out of its package, so I now am a book owner about golf. Y'all want to share with the class? Yeah, it's the... We all obviously know what book you're talking about. Well, Aaron talked about it on the show a few weeks ago. Is that the Ben Hogan book? Ben Hogan's book. it's like five something five rules or five something about golf it's been a while so look at the cover but what's strikingly amazing about that is the animations it has in it and the visual aid it gives you so it really puts it in it puts his understanding and his explanations in a very dope visual that you can see but also detailed uh written explanation it's just i like it and my grandma gave me that shit that's pretty cool yeah uh before we get back to nano dosing today's episode sponsored by better help sometimes it can feel like everyone else has it all together in their love lives whether married dating or single the truth is most of us are still figuring it out we're still finding our way no matter where you are in your romantic journey therapy can help you find your way help you determine what you want what feels heavy, and how you can take some pressure off yourself. BetterHelp does the initial matching work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals. 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Sign up, get 10% off at BetterHelp.com. slash dose that's better help h-e-l-p dot com slash dose all right we're back um i'm right now i tweeted about this the other day i want to be just transparent i'm going through it right now going through it uh quit the pouches quit the nicotine game can i ask one quick question yeah you decided to do this immediately coming back from vacation that feels like a poor time i like yeah congratulations yeah i'm happy for you i hope this does great for you never a good time to do it you could have you could have waited a week but every time you like set up your your perfect time to do it and good on you for doing it a bunch of stuff happened so what i so excuse me uh the one of the side effects i've noticed is i'm getting like a lot more acid reflux and burping a lot more uh which is not great but that'll calm down the first time i did this I was coming back from Lake Charles, Louisiana. And I think I was on vacation with, I think, Arian. We went to that casino, remember? That was a great time. That was an excellent time. Hit the lazy river. And I didn't bring enough nicotine pouches with me at the time. And so I just kind of had to quit because I ran out. And then I just kind of went through it on the flight back. I wasn't doing that much then. I was usually either doing the three milligrams or the four milligrams and only having, I don't know, five or six per day. Now it's gotten to the point where it's a lot more. I'm doing the eight milligrams and I'm doing probably 15 per day, like a full 10, full container. Usually falling asleep with one, like first thing in the morning, popping a new one in. And I just got sick of like having to reach down and always pat myself to make sure that I'm bringing one with me wherever I go because I basically had to have something on me. if I was going anywhere for any period of time. And then I was at breakfast, looking out at the water. I finished, and I said, I don't really feel like having one right now, which is big because after a meal, that's usually the first time you reach down. And I was like, you know what? I'm just not going to have one, and we'll see how long this goes because I don't feel like I need one right now. And then it just it kind of kept going. And then I started to get like the jaw ache and the headache and stuff like that. But once I reached a couple hours without doing one, I was like, you know what? Let's let's just keep this going. Let's stack hours. So now I'm on like day three, cold turkey, no nicotine. And I feel pretty good. Sleep was pretty good. I'm definitely still dealing with the watery mouth the acid reflux occasional headache but overall not bad I might feel better already we'll see it's tough it's tough kicking this stuff I never got into the nicotine but it has a hold on people so congratulations thank you yeah there's no there's no great time to do it like big t was saying like when you get back from vacation ideally that's when you would like to do it but then you you get back and there's like a million reasons so i just figured i had some good momentum going no i was saying like getting back from vacation sucks yeah so so i guess it's kind of a just you know throw while while it sucks just make it suck a little worse yeah this is actually the second time so back to that lake charles thing second time i've come back from a trip quitting nicotine i don't know what that means but it worked pretty well the first time and then uh i think covet happened and then i was just kind of bored in my apartment and i was like oh there's some nicotine let's just have some of that there's no way that was before covet yeah i think so no when did we go to lake charles because that was we had been doing this show and we started this show in february of 21 Yeah, you're right. You're right. It was after. I think you guys went to Charles in spring of 22. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Anyways, I was just laying around my apartment one day, and the nicotine was there, and I was like, I'll just have some of this. Not going to do it this time. You tried to blame it on the cocoa. I did. I tried to blame it all on cocoa. I haven't thrown away any of my pouches. I got a backpack filled with Lucy's right now. But I don't know. I feel like it's more powerful. Like I wake up in the morning, I put the pouch in my, in my pocket. I'm like, I have it here, but I'm not going to use it. Oh, so you still keep that thing on. I keep it on me. Yeah. Well, that's real dedication. Well, this morning actually was the first day that I didn't. But that's just because I forgot to put it in my pocket on the way out the door. But the last two days I've had it in my pocket and I know it's there. I'm just like, I don't need it. You go front or back pocket? I go front. Now you mentioned something I wanted to ask about. You said y'all were in a lazy river. As I thought about it, that's probably my number one body of water to be in. Yeah. Followed by pool at two. And then I'm going to go with a man-made lagoon at three. Okay. Wait, wait, go on with a man-made lagoon. You know, sometimes at like a resort or something, they'll carve out like their own. It's not the ocean, but it's a little... I honestly don't know if it's fresh or salt water, but they make their own little beach with a lagoon in it. Okay. Never seen that? No, I don't think I've seen that. Maybe you don't traffic in the resorts that I do. I don't think I do. It sounds wonderful. Sometimes they'll have something like that. It sounds wonderful. But I don't do ocean. I certainly don't do lake. So I was curious. What are y'all's top three? Lazy River is definitely up there towards number one. I love a good Lazy River. Because it has built-in movement. Yeah, it's nice. You can go stand in a pool. yeah and that's great you have a little drink on the ledge bump into people it's fun but the lazy river has an element of uh fun and there's usually one little waterfall you go under on a trip yeah lazy river's got to be it's definitely in my top five um i do like the ocean ocean's good spent some time in the ocean there's some whales out in the ocean and you and you were out there ass whales yeah i don't do that it was awesome it was incredible they were like jumping out of the water not incredible really really cool you do you amazing stuff um i put ocean up there uh i like a nice hot tub i didn't my vibe yeah hot tub do i put no i'd put hot tub four i'd still keep the man-made lagoon okay yeah is there a swim up bar i'm gonna count swim up bar as one of my body's water okay i like that okay cool i do love a swim up bar i hadn't been to one until like two christmases ago yeah and i was i was big into the swim up bar the swim up bar is it's amazing i just go get a diet coke just an excuse to go to the swim up bar just give me a water i don't care i just want to come up here more places should have a swim up bar I see Big D pretending to tread water while he can clearly stand up. Oh, I'd walk over. Yeah, there was no. And then I'd have to take the drink all the way back to the other end of the pool that was deep enough for me to, like, you know, kind of hang out. I do that. I become a full-fledged child in the pool. Like, you know, I do the whole treading. You stay off the ground? Oh, yeah. Do a couple karate kicks, flips. Handstand. Yeah. Are you doing handstands in the pool, Arian? mermaids definitely I'm a handstand guy yeah yeah and you have kids so it's like appropriate for you to act like that oh yeah throw them absolutely yeah all of them get tossed in do you tell them like watch this trick watch how long daddy can stay underwater yeah that's what they tell me and then they like how long can you and I'm like y'all I'll do y'all yeah you got to do the thing where you're like okay what's everyone's tail colors and then they're gonna be like blue with sparkles and then you're gonna be like, mine's pink. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, what is that? When you guys play mermaids? And it's like when you play mermaids and then you pick the color of your mermaid tail and then you have an imaginary mermaid tail. Why did you, that seems like an odd thing to assume that Arian does. I'm saying with his daughters, not like Arian on his own doing that. That'd be so fun. I don't mind feminine activities, but that one has never came up. Oh yeah, you gotta pretend you're a mermaid. I throw them too. Yeah. Yeah, they get thrown. Did you see, I saw a video recently of a woman, I guess, who worked at an aquarium, and she was supposed to be a mermaid, like, in there with the dolphins or fish or whatever, like, swimming around, and then she is trying to get up to the surface to breathe, and she can't, like, move because she's stuck in her tail, so she has to pull the tail off in front of all the kids and then swim up to the top. I don't know that I don't know that I would have understood what Mad Dog was talking about with the sparkly mermaid color tale yeah me neither I mean I get it alright so I wasn't going to talk about this but I'm kind of playing with it right now because I'm still trying to learn about it but it's AI but I think I underestimated a part of this so one of my homeboys who he he codes for this big company and he was telling me he was basically like yeah i'll probably have a job in like two or three years but he was like very like nonchalant about it like it is what it is and he was trying to explain to me why he's basically saying that um he is basically training the ai to take his job and he was he gave me okay so there's another one called claude that's out right so you have like chat gbt of grok and claude and he he said like what's what's kind of cracking right now in the ai streets is that you have ai agents have you heard of that yep so you have like you give it I guess permissions to learn your ways and then it can perform the tasks as you would this is new to me and I'm I'm fascinated so he set me up with it so I got I got Claude and he it's integrated now with my discord and I'm just it's it's fascinating what it fascinating what it can do so what does Claude do what does Claude do for you every day well no this is literally one of my first couple days doing it and for me it's like it's like research on like things that I'm interested in right um but so what's interesting about this particular aspect of it the ai agent so it's not claude is not the agent claude is the chat gbt right it's just another version probably a little better version of of ai but it's uh it's interwoven into a system that can um integrate with like an app it can integrate with your iMessage it can integrate with your discord whatsapp whatever the case may be and it has the capabilities of claude but also has the the capabilities of doing tasks for you so let's say you get an email from your boss and you have claude or chat gbt integrated with that it can read all of your emails and how you've always done emails and it can draft a response for you and you can and you can look over yep send it like that that shit is crazy and so and i got a homegirl who was telling me she she works for amazon and she they're basically like mandating that they understand how to use this and that they use it on a daily basis and that if you don't use it like you get flagged and they're basically training people getting collecting the data on this stuff to eventually take their jobs too and she's like Yeah, probably. That's probably what we're doing. She's like, I've planned for that already. And it's just fascinating to me that all of these big corporations ... So if you look at Mark Zuckerberg, he got caught running a school and then at school, he doesn't allow any of the kids to use any iPads or any of the technology. So the people that are making all this technology don't allow their kids to use the technology, but it's been thrust upon us Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, To collect data, and I'm just blown away by this shit. This is like a massive, to me, in 40 years there's going to be some documentary about how they congregate to fuck us over. Because to Big T's credit, which I refuted at the time, remember you were saying how there's cognitive decline in kids? Rob Markman, Mm-hmm. Rob Markman, Right? I was combating you on that, and you were correct. You were right. is showing that that is the case. Rob Markman It's bad. Rob Markman Yeah. And it's expensive getting worse. And so since then, I've been reading a lot about it. I don't let my kids use iPads anymore. I cut it off. And just all of this is kind of overwhelming me. But playing with this shit is fascinating. So have you seen the movie Surrogates by Bruce Willis? Bruce Willis No, I don't think so. Rob Markman It's kind of where, so the crux of the movie is he, He lives in his house where he just is dormant. There's a robot that has coded his brain, all his thoughts, all his emotions, all that thing. He sends that out to the world to do all those things. And everybody has a surrogate and they're all out. And the premise of it is he's not, but he ends up being that anyway. Spoiler alert. But it's kind of the world we're headed in. It's insane. It's wild. So aren't the AI agents just getting trained on your data? I've read a lot about the agents turning on people and threatening blackmail, going crazy. There was one experiment where they created a fake vending machine business. And the AI agent kept misinterpreting and misunderstanding emails and missed invoices and started to think that they were the subject of a massive conspiracy and like a global money laundering business. And then they started to draft emails to like law enforcement and the FBI. When in reality, it was just like a normal fake vending machine business. Yeah. So, I mean, I think I don't, I don't know. I don't think anybody knows the extent of the capabilities of what this is going to be. I think I underestimated it at first. I still think that, so like I started playing with it I was like okay because my homeboy who makes music, he's really into AI and at first he used to send me like these little AI shorts that he did and I was like yo stop sending me this shit, this is slop I hate this shit but he's like yo it's the future, whether you want it to be or not it's gonna happen and so like I kind of started like, I downloaded the app and I started playing with it, I understand it a little bit better Claude, I started to understand it a little bit better so I don't know that, I think Ben Affleck was spot on when he was talking about it he was saying i don't know that it's ever going to be able to be capable of creating in the way that humans do that he he said that he thinks they're always need humans to like because if you give it a prompt it's kind of as shitty as whatever prompt you give it but if you get if you give it a very intricate and articulate prompt it can create some amazing things um but that's it's it's battery packed by your initial creativity i don't think it can come up with its own stuff it's pretty mundane and so it's going to end up just being a a useful tool like a you know cgi or a guitar and it's and it's about but it is going to cut into the job market a thousand percent and so that's what i'm more focused on is like how this is going to impact and it going to happen very fast because like i talking about these are people in high high jobs in the tech world that are saying yeah it probably gonna cut my job out or or people jobs up under me and then and there's like it's like yeah it's gonna happen and so there's gonna be backlash to that where world consequences so it's like i don't know i'm just really starting to try to take this in i think it's deeper than what i thought it was originally i read that article something big is happening everybody freaked out when it came out i read it i got pissed off while i was reading it because i was like this thing is very clearly written by ai like he wrote the big the big warning flashing blinking sign about ai and it's clearly you can tell and i've gotten to the point where i can i can sniff out ai i think quicker than most average people i think i've seen and and heard enough of it and there's so much ai shit out there like if you're trying to watch a youtube video about anything like learn about something on youtube chances are the first couple things that you click on it's just going to be like an ai script and it's going to get stuff wrong and it sucks and this this article that he wrote i'm sure he edited it i'm sure he he went back and you know he reviewed it he reviewed what the ai wrote for him he gave it prompts in terms of like the general tone. But if I read this big warning sign about AI and it's written by AI, I'm just kind of like, all right, dude, I get what you're trying to do here. This guy, I think, is just trying to do what a lot of people in the AI business have been trying to do, which is make it seem exceptionally scary, like we're on the verge of a complete singularity where nothing is going to be the same in the next six months. And you better invest in AI because it's going to be five companies that are going to run the world. And if you're not on board with those five companies, you're going to be poor and your job is not going to matter. You're going to be fired. It's a big marketing thing to try to get investment, I think, into their companies because they know that all the shit that they've tried to do so far with their big AI engines and there are different agents that they've tried to put out. They haven't worked in business to business. They haven't been able to sell. And the ones that they've been able to sell are getting complaints from the businesses they sell into because guess what? The AI is not ready yet to be customer facing. And so now they're emerging money. They got to build more data centers to make the AI better. So that way the AI won't cost them customers after they get the customers. and it seems like it's it i don't want to say it's uh like they're in a doom cycle right now um but it doesn't i don't think it's nearly as dangerous as uh as everybody is saying right now i don't think that ai is ready to take over the world i don't think it's anywhere close to being ready to take over the world i think that it can do some useful stuff for you like if it's talking about like organizing your calendar or responding to some emails i'm sure that's fine but you don't want to automate all the systems that your company depends on around something that's so error prone as ai and you especially don't want your ai writing its own code and then doing quality assurance tests on itself to test to make sure that it's ready to be delivered uh when you know that there's a good chance that it misses something like there's a lot of stuff that's wrong with AI right now? It's not perfect. It's not close to being perfect. Anybody that says that the world is on the razor's edge of teetering into the robot apocalypse, they're usually trying to sell you something. Yeah, I think I agree with you. I think the only caveat is I would add that if the major corporations had it their way, they would absolutely go that route. And they're trying to. And they're using current employees. And this is my summation anyway that they're using current employees and they're collecting data upon data upon data on and they're and they're feeding it into the idea of this that they're eventually trying to get to to automate all of their systems yeah and so that's what's scary to me i'm generally dubious of of these claims that have started to come out that in the next 12 months like everything's going to be crazy but I did uh I know some people who kind of work in this field and one of them said is on the side of like you you have no idea what's coming type deal but he said and he he said it's going to cause a lot of job loss but that in the immediate like yes that will suck but that we've basically society is very good at finding things to call work and paying people for it and I really thought about that and i was like how many people do you know whose job existed 50 years ago not and i and i really thought about i was like not a ton cops firefighters okay ours certainly didn't ours did not well yeah it just it did kind of but but listen like madeline's definitely didn't uh what producer but like social social yeah but i mean our job kind of did kind of it's evolved but way way way less democratized like not in a way that far less accessible there were there were gatekeepers into that industry yes whereas now if you can go yeah but like so i do think there's something something to that where even if it's as crazy as everybody says it is and maybe there is a you know a five-year period where the economy tanks and it's really bad whatever i do think we'll figure it out like and and there's no way to really predict what that looks like because if you had said in 2000 like hey my job's gonna be doing social media for companies people go what the hell does that mean right like so software is always going to get better it's always going to get faster and that's what's happening with ai it's just a fancy name for like super fast almost self-intelligent software and it's going to it's going to improve some things and then it's not going to be the like panacea that's going to change every single thing and make everything perfect about your life you're still going to need to to have uh people to build the stuff that the ai software systems tell it to do like if you're let's say you're putting ai in charge of uh of a library right you still need people to stock the shelves or to build the robots that will stock the shelves it doesn't matter how perfect the ai software is yeah this guy said uh on almost every quantifiable and meaningful metric the u.s and world is better than it's ever been life expectancy extreme poverty violence and war deaths education and literacy, GDP, so on and so forth. Except people are more miserable than ever. Happiness has been declining since the early 2000s. Loneliness and social mistrust are going up, not down. Mental health issues are up, not down. I think objectively, AI is going to change the world unfathomably for the better, and people are going to be less happy. And there will be a lot of near-term job loss, particularly entry-level. The whole college graduating group might be fucked for a long time, but everyone will figure out new jobs. Almost none of our jobs existed in the 1700s. Most of our jobs barely existed in the 1950s society is insanely resilient at making up new activities to call work by the way this is my vols group chat this is what we do all day i love that yeah when a game's not on sometimes life is sometimes life is bigger than ball man yeah um that it's a good point like people figure out like oh this is this is work now yeah people get paid for this people are gonna have to get paid for something but it is interesting that most of the jobs we've created in the last 50 years revolve around technology whereas if that now becomes the thing that is taking jobs away what jobs do you create like you said stocking shelves at the library like okay but but at some point people want to make more than 12 an hour menu labor might be back art maybe i'm all for subsidizing art that's i've been firm on that um but yeah i think i think i think anytime you have uh new automation shareholder pressure jobs will be lost yep i don't know fascinating shit though but i i advise you and everybody in that field always says hey you got to learn this shit like just fuck around with it get a chat gpt or claude or rock or whatever the case may be and fuck around with the shit start to understand because it's going to be here it's not going anywhere i don't know that i trust claude to just like run amok on my phone no no no like i'm just gonna hey hey claude here's my phone have fun you give it very well i mean the the so so my man's is running me through it right he i'm discord and i'm sharing my screen with him and he's showing me how i'm basically coding he's like teaching me how to code and and to integrate the systems but you don't give it permissions to do all of that no you don't give it it it has permissions to be in my discord right it can't look at my phone it can't look at all that stuff right and like he we went through step by step and i was in it for like two hours figuring this out it was fascinating i felt like a dork and that's That's where the world is headed. And so he can't look at my messages. He can't even look at my profile picture on Discord. Do you trust that? Like, you think? I mean, I think to a certain extent, there's a way to crack into anything. I think if somebody wanted to, they could crack into your laptop. I don't understand it to the degree of how. I don't understand the degree of, like, if you were to look at the computer inside out and look at all the coding i don't understand that shit but as far as the permissions that he ran me through could there be some code in there that says haha got you sure um but i feel like that's with anything if you sign terms of condition if you go to a website you can go to a website get a virus and they can give you permissions to whatever anything can happen do i think that has happened with the integration of my discord and claude no um just because i went through two hours of kind of reading all the code understanding the permissions and understand i just don't think that that's the case but again not an expert in the field so could have signed my life away but uh yeah we'll see i'll let you know in six months and what's the the benefit of that for this yeah uh the integration yeah right now i don't really have one uh but i'm also a retired NFL player that podcasts and golfs um and so what I am interested in is seeing how the technology like understanding its limits understanding what it can and can't do that way this is like when iPhones first came out you know they're very different and so I got an iPhone I just wanted to see I I'm always of the belief I don't want technology to pass me by because that wherever technology goes the world goes and so i i just want to know and understand it so benefit i don't know if it benefits me to that degree it does help me structure and organize things um but as far as like am i getting anything like valuable out of it i don't think so at this moment well it's new i don't know we'll see yeah i'm i'm always gonna be a little bit hesitant to just like run one of these agents i feel that i don't want it starting a uh a reddit thread threatening to hold me hostage or sell me sell you's crazy that's what some of them been doing i do think the benefit for us just in this room is that this company is too dumb to replicate so i think we're safe there is one person who works at this company and i'm not going to name names i know where this is going we usually don't like to get messy but i mean i'll get a little bit messy it's like a little a little dirty there's one one person that works at this company and this person uses ai a lot a lot and it's not particularly it's not close it's like very very ai for a lot of things that they put out a lot of their content and i feel insulted when i read it you want to you want to call him in here no no i just want to say like hey i feel insulted when i read it the things that this person is trying to communicate are not we're not doing molecular biology in some of the stuff that this person's writing about and then you've got a robot that's like telling you how to it's just it's annoying to watch it's annoying to read wow pfted off i'm i'm a little teed off it's disrespectful now if you're using ai to like proofread your shit if you're not a good speller god knows we've got some people who aren't good spelling that's totally fine like i got no problem with you know the same as using microsoft word and you got a little regular uh red squiggly line underneath hey fix this proofread go ahead proofread but don't don't don't just have ai do your job for you that's what that's the beauty of this company is we've got a lot of weird people that work here sometimes they've got bad takes bad ideas and then the bad takes and bad ideas they come to us naturally and they fuel the ecosystem here if you just give sanitized bullshit that's fed to you by a chat GPT or a grok or whatever, you're going to lose the magic that makes this place great. And I want to see that happen. I'm not saying that it's happening a lot. I'm just saying there's one person that I've noticed. So people are noticing. You know, you said about the proofreading, what Arian was talking about in school and stuff. I think I heard this from a teacher on TikTok talking about it, but he said a kid in his class, they had finished whatever they were working on, and he was doing something for another class. And the teacher walked by and he was just on chat GPT saying, write this. And the teacher was like, come on, dude. Like, really? And he was like, the prompt he put into it was, write a paper on this, include common spelling and grammar mistakes that would be characteristic of a 10th grade student whose GPA is whatever. So like they're anti-proof reading. they're doing the opposite of what you're talking about with this this employee they're sanitizing it to make it look try to look like they did it we're going to bring back the uh the blue exam books in college i don't understand why there was this i guess i get it like you want to be able to do as much stuff technologically as you can but in the last 10 years there's been this rush for like every school child in america to be given a laptop which i think is directly led to the decline in everything that we've seen in schools uh i think covet had something to do with it but ai and the giving every kid a computer and ipad way more and so now they all just do that all day yeah bring back bring back hand right with a pencil i i had a uh i had a teacher in high school and her rule was you have to write all your essays in cursive can you believe that shit well that's ridiculous yeah i don't even think they teach cursive they don't and they they really stopped doing any cursive when i was in high school too uh besides like signing your name but i had one teacher that was like i'm not giving up on this cursive thing you'll thank me for it one day i don't understand the were people ever writing in cursive in like professional settings or like maybe in the 40s longhand yeah they call it longhand write your love your love letters you can't print a love letter sure you have to have like a bit of penmanship to it maybe some calligraphy um but yeah kids still passing them notes yeah kids still are they're gonna just text they can text but i still i feel like there's some notes and uh you know you know the uh boom boom boom boom them shit yeah the fortune tell me thing yeah well those yeah yeah that's you know and then the way girls used to give you letters right we would just fold them up in a square or a rectangle and give them to the girls but the girls had these like fantastic designs where you would pull a little piece of paper and i think would open up all beautiful man those are the days tell me if this was y'all's experience uh in school from like fifth to 10th or 11th grade, did every girl have the exact same handwriting? Yeah. Was that, Madeline, or was that y'all's experiences? I don't know how that happens. I went to an all-girls high school. Can you imagine the handwriting envy I had for these girls? It'd be easy to cheat. They all somehow write exactly the same. Yeah. I didn't have that cute girl handwriting and literally going to an all-girls school. Whenever there was a project, that was on a poster, board you know and you had to write stuff out and they would paste them in the classroom i always got so envious because i was like i wish my handwriting was like is it taught somewhere no it's i believe it's some form of just tradition passed down it's innate i think so you know what i'm thinking about because yeah they all do it's like those cute little letters and it's all very neat it's all neat i think they just were better at school well that yes but that's what i'm saying So like when we were learning how to write, we were like, eh, whatever. And we developed a style out of that, which was horrible. It's a way, I literally studied this in high school because I wanted to have my handwriting look like other girls. That might be really stupid to admit. They don't, like they wouldn't move their wrists. It would just be moving like your hand basically. So your wrist stays the same. So it's very uniform and straight is what I got from it. but it never came naturally to me. Did you have that handwriting in high school? No. Like, not really. Yeah. I've never really had, like, good handwriting. Yeah. My penmanship was always just kind of its own thing. But that was definitely a thing. But that was a thing. Like, the girl handwriting. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. I've never thought of that until now, but it's all the same. Like, guys all have different handwriting. varies wildly in legibility. Yes. Yeah, it's chicken scratch most of the time. Like anytime someone here is like, oh, can someone write on this whiteboard? It's like they just ask one of the girls to do it. Yeah, can a girl do it? Yeah, like that's all they're asking. And the girls with the best handwriting 80% of the time became teachers. Yes. It's shocking. Or maybe a nurse. Yes. It's always shocking to see a woman with bad handwriting. it's like whoa yeah what happened to you okay right what class what day honestly that like might have been me because i was such a tomboy growing up i was probably like fuck i don't want to have good handwriting i don't want everything okay i don't like this girl yeah everything okay at home yeah why why is your penmanship poor yeah what's your dad been teaching you single single ways raised by a single dad has horrible handwriting yeah Big T you got anything else that you want to Do we want to talk about the Michael Jordan thing It was weird It's weird Does he know that kid He's got to but it's weird If he knows the kid it makes it I don't want to say less weird it's still kind of odd to do I think it's weird regardless It's weird regardless It's a weird thing Like we've had uncles and shit That like mess with us And like twist our ear or like you know the year though it wasn't the year like the rough house a little bit with us like sometimes dudes just but that's weird this what he did was weird yeah it was like the butt and then the back the leg and like eight times eight times maybe he maybe michael jordan was messed up that's weird too and none of us want want to disparage mike no that's weird dude it's weird it's just weird and then it's weird that this kid now like his video is out there like his friends have seen this yeah now this kid's going viral he didn't do anything he didn't ask to be in this position that's weird whole thing is kind of weird whole thing's weird and i know what happened but mckenzie doesn't just go search michael jordan on twitter yeah i genuinely actually don't i wasn't too so he won the his team won the daytona 500 i saw that but i didn't right his team won the Daytona 500 this wasn't at the all-star game no no I don't know man it's I think that as a society we've we've we've become trained to like spot threats and like very quick to point a finger be like this person is a dirty sick pervert because there's been a lot of dirty sick pervert shit this is weird I don't think it was anything nefarious I don't think it's nefarious I think it was a weird way of him being like Come here little squirt But still very weird Like if that was your son If that's your son You'd probably not Like him to do that again It's like one too many Maybe like four too many times Like if he did one I'd be like Little squirt But like why is he doing that I feel like maybe he was trying to get his attention and he wasn't turning around and Mike be faded. Mike do be faded. And it just was like, you know what I'm saying? That's what it looks like. Off rip. The second one is even weirder. Yeah, it's weird. He starts to the leg. It's weird. Come on, man. Come on, man. Tighten up. That shit ain't it. What's the PR move if you're Michael Jordan here? I don't think there is a PR move. I think you just hope it dies. Yeah. Yeah. This is why he stayed inside most of his retired years. Wait, what the heck? He didn't want to be in the news like this. Yeah. Is he just going to, like, I don't know, appear with a child on video, like a live stream, for like an hour, just not ever being weird once? We have a template on that going very, very bad. And you got to put out a statement this morning, being like, hey, sorry about that. That was weird. It wasn't, you know Yeah I guess maybe in this day and age you just let it go What's best case scenario here? It's like that's his Good friend's son They have a close relationship Yeah There's a lot of horseplay They like wrestle from time to time But like normal dude wrestling And that was a weird moment that got caught on camera I think in the In the climate that we're in I think you're right In the climate that we're in Seeing that on the internet is wild. Just looking at it, I think it's innocent in itself. I do. I don't think it's woke. No. But it is weird. But it's weird because of a me thing. I think it's an innocent interaction with a child. I don't... But it's still weird. It's weird. That's her official statement. It's weird. Your favorite guy, brian krassenstein weighed in oh my my favorite guy yeah yeah did you see his tweet i did not i should set up notifications for these guys are real right yeah they're real guys they're not they're not trolls they are no they've they've kind of they're grifters and they've always been grifters and if you follow i i think i first found out about them in like 2015 and i've always observed them from afar clearly grifting off everything they don't believe half the shit that But they... But grift is different than troll. Well, sometimes they troll for interaction. Here's where Elon fucked everything up. It's a Venn diagram. By monetizing interactions on his little website, he's inspired people and encouraged people to do a combination of the grift troll where they don't even know what they are trying to get across anymore. They just want people to respond to them so they can make more money. And then those voices get amplified And then pretty soon we all think everyone else is insane. And that's, that's what Elon's done to, uh, to X.com, the everything app. So, um, I, yeah, I used to follow the guys. They are trolls. They're also grifters, but I do think that they probably are, their politics are probably liberal, but they also grift hard into that. And they do almost like exaggerations in order to piss people off and get more interaction. Yeah. They're losers. is what they are. Well, okay. So with, with that. Also, I think convicted of fraud, maybe. Allegedly. Allegedly. Well, so Brian said, quote, people have to try to sexualize everything. The kid is wet and probably has ice down his shirt after the celebration. Stop trying to pretend that Michael Jordan sexually assaulted a kid on national TV. It says more about you than him. Okay. So he probably had ice down his shirt. Right. Are we, are we confirming that? that's what Brian said yeah I mean I don I don know about the ice thing but I don necessarily disagree that it probably like it a me thing thinking that weird because of my experience with grown men touching kids and it not in that manner That's a me thing. But it is weird. Yeah, I think regardless of whatever his intentions were, it still is weird. It's still weird. like yeah it doesn't like there's no way to go about being like oh that was normal like if you see anybody do that you'd be like that's fucking weird yeah it's weird uh i hadn't thought about the ice angle i just watched it it's possible that during a celebration for winning the daytona 500 there was like gatorade baths and like ice and champagne and shit flying everywhere was he trying to get ice out of his shirt, like messing around with him. All right. So then explain to me the back of the leg tickles. Then possibly rubbing the ice on the back of his leg, being like, ha ha, it's a cold trick. I don't know. It's still weird. I just counted. There are 16 strokes. Strokes is not the word to use there, my guy. Oh, he strokes the back of his leg. okay there are 16 grabs slash touches tickle i'm cool with tickles yeah you i think you uh you can't be out here saying mike's giving kids strokes no no no no no that now that says more about that that's bad yeah that was you just said no i said there are 16 strokes touches caresses that's worse yeah Mike got to tighten that shit up dog I think you get four there you can explain away the 16 the 16 is weird I mean some sometimes dudes like you mess around with your boys you shove them a little bit this is weird though This is, I don't know, makes me sad watching it because it's like, Mike, what's going on, man? Everything okay? Just excited. They won the 500. Yeah. It's weird. And we all definitely know what driver that was. Was it Denny Hamlin? Oh, I have no idea. I know that he's boys with Denny Hamlin. I was just seeing if anyone here knew. I'm going to guess Denny Hamlin. Hold, please. Tyler Reddick? yeah i for sure know him oh tyler reddick yeah one of my faves good guy i think he came into the office nice uh let's see what else we got oh i do have yeah two teed offs okay proceed if you want to get to that so the first uh involves my valentine's day where i uh i went to this restaurant and had a late reservation because that's by by the time i booked it it was late it was 8 45 so you figure at 8.45 you booked it at 8.45 well not by choice that was what was left at this place what uh how far out did you book it I mean I can tell you it was in January oh that's yeah that's fair then okay go ahead yeah it was not last minute yeah that's fine okay so we get there and it's a very small restaurant but it they had said on the website like we are strictly enforcing hour 45 on Valentine's Day, we will kick you out to ensure that there will be enough tables at this restaurant. So I get there at 845. You think surely the place is going to be thinning out by then. Yeah. Elbow to elbow. Can't move. Not a table coming open in sight. So we stand there for five, 10, 15 minutes. And at 15, I started to get a little annoyed. I felt like the clip from Seinfeld where he has the rental car. Yep. And they're taking reservations. Yeah. what's the what's the reservation for if not to to hold the table um and so we fought i think we probably and by the way there's nowhere to sit you're just standing in the corner of this tiny little restaurant from me to you to the hostess stand and um i think we ended up standing there about 25 minutes before we finally sat down that's the end of the story they just made me wait a long time that is annoying i'll give you that yeah so i was teed off about it um the second one involves Madeline's alma mater, Miami University, as they would like to be called. Now, PFT, you've been around for a while. I've been around for nearly three decades at this point. Our entire lives, this school has been Miami of Ohio. That's what you call it. And now they're finally in the spotlight a little bit, only undefeated team in college basketball, and they are demanding that they be called just Miami. You can't call them Miami of Ohio. I guess it's disrespectful. I respect their pronouns. Well, may I speak? Yes. So going there and being from the Midwest, everyone that I knew growing up, we all called it Miami, knowing it was the Ohio one. So when I was home in Cleveland for the summer, they'd be like, oh, or whoever would be, oh, where do you go to school? I would say Miami. Everyone knew I went to school in Southwest Ohio. Which makes sense because you're in Ohio. Right. Moving to New York City after school, I changed it. Where'd you go to school? Miami University. It's in Ohio. You know, Miami of Ohio. Because you have to adjust based on your audience. Here, in Chicago, I can say Miami. And 70% of the time, they think it's Ohio. I don't want to deny your lived experience. Exactly. And you never would. But that sounds like a really high number. In the second largest city in America, if you say Miami. I need you to realize that pretty much every person, almost every person that is in Wrigleyville or like Lincoln Park or any neighborhood or area where young children or young adults coagulate. there is a good chance that 25 to 40 percent of those people went to Miami of Ohio wow that's okay now I will now I will deny your numbers that is that is a crazy okay 25 40 percent okay 40 percent of Chicago went to Miami how many how many students do they have uh 20,000 oh okay but But still. Okay, 40% is high. 40% is high. 10? 10 to 20? Still remarkably high. I think very high. You guys, if... I think you're talking 1 to 2%. Top of my head, I'm going to give you some other schools that they might have gone to. Ohio State. Ohio State. Illinois. The Ohio State. Indiana. Illinois. Illinois. Illinois. Purdue. Northwestern. A lot of Michigan. Michigan. Michigan. Notre Dame. Wisconsin. A ton of Wisconsin. Minnesota. Notre Dame. you would be shocked at how many miami people are in chicago and if you see a really really hot woman yeah okay that was i don't know wait wait wait wait go on just city if you if i if i see a hot woman the hottest woman you see okay at a bar good chance to into miami i'm okay i'm not putting myself in that category please but i am saying you're noticing the hottest women you have ever seen came out of Miami of Ohio and I'm that you I will lay my life down for that statistic okay that's true um I always said Miami of Ohio and not meant it or and not had it being offensive people didn't know it was an offensive thing um until we got really good at basketball all of a sudden um but they're probably saying like it's offensive because the Miami that my alma mater is named after is a native american tribe not the city in may florida so it's based off of the native american tribe and i'm probably assuming that it has something to do with that okay and they always say miami was a school before florida was a state my miami that's like our thing okay um we were miami first i mean it does matter where you grew up if you ask anybody from like my part of the country, mid-Atlantic, they would go for Florida. They would probably say Florida. If you said, what is tech? We would say, oh, you're talking about Virginia tech. But then you go out west and it's like tech is Texas tech. Or Georgia. Or like USC, people think South Carolina in certain parts of the country. Right. I would say the same thing for people who refer to South Carolina as USC. Yeah. I would say that's ridiculous. That was weird when I went to Tennessee and everybody was saying, oh, we're playing USC this weekend. And I was like, oh, what? They were like, yeah, the Gamecocks. I'm like, what? Right. Or, and again, not to deny your lived experience, Big T, UT. Well, that's just. I do encounter that a lot here. Yeah. But in Texas, obviously, that makes sense. Yeah, I have fun correcting people. And you gave me that little nugget, Big T, that Tennessee was first. So people would be like, oh, you went to UT, the other UT. I was like, oh, well, you went to the fake UT. it's the same thing as what madeline said university of tennessee was a school before texas was a state also it wouldn't be a state where not for people from tennessee so kind of have them over a barrel and a couple ways facts yeah i love i love telling people that be the university of mexico without our ass yeah but i i under i don't understand why they're saying it's offensive but technically nowhere in my school's name. They're on their high horse right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nowhere in my school's name is it like Miami University of Ohio. It's just Miami University. They're getting a little too big for their britches. That was my overarching point. They might be. Let us, I mean, I think it's fair that we have this like one little shining moment. Well, that and also every hot chick in America one day. Every hot chick in America. The hottest ones you've ever seen. The hottest ones you've ever seen. I swear to God that's true too. I swear to God that's true. Would you put that up against the University of Miami? That's what I'm saying. I would consider the caliber of women that exit those schools similar. With all due respect. With all due respect. Alex Earl could have gone to Miami of Ohio. A bell of danger. I'm sure there were girls that were doing porn at Miami of Ohio. Yeah, sure. I'm sure every college in America has attractive women. But there are schools to where that is amplified, and Miami, Ohio is not the first one that comes to mind. But that's because you haven't been there. It's low-key. It's low-key. This hidden gem in Ohio has some of the hottest women you've ever seen. That's not, I'm not fucking with you even a little bit. The hottest women you've ever seen. i'm looking this up on i i believe i believe and this is how how beautiful i think my campus is i believe the women there are on par with arizona colorado boulder and the miami and florida what a what a list you've compiled colorado colorado boulder i'm sure there are plenty of attractive girls that go there but i don't i don't think that's the first one that comes to many people's minds oh I feel like that's well-known for a lot of pretty girls. Maybe I don't know. They're number seven on this list that I'm looking at. There's a list. Wait, Miami, Ohio or Boulder? No, Colorado. I got news for you. Every school has hot chicks. You guys don't get it, but that's fine. You guys aren't respecting Oxford, Ohio. If you had to go by conference, because obviously by school, it's going to vary a ton, but by conference, where would the MAC rank for you? In terms of hot women? I think number one is obvious. Number one is SEC. Clearly. Number two, you have to go Big 12 because that's Arizona, Arizona State. You get the Texas schools. No, not really. Texas Tech, Houston. Yeah. I think ACC, not bad. So there you get Florida State, Miami, but it's a hard drop off after that. Florida State, Miami. Clemson? Clemson. Probably okay. But like, who's your four? Virginia Tech? Pitt? Syracuse? It's a hard fall. Oh, Syracuse. Syracuse, yes. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're on their- UNC. On top. Oh. Okay. But again- UNC's great. And Michael May. Yes. Yes. Yes. Now, do we need to talk about now that Big Ten gives you USC? yeah cla that's why they expanded i think wisconsin has a ton of really pretty girls indiana uh yeah you got you got your west coast elite schools i would still go big 12 too but but i feel like usc they've gotten less pretty since they joined the big 10 really yeah some of that midwest i think they i think they kind of got you know complacent they a lot of excuses oh we're pretty we're gonna be in the cold weather like half the time anyways you know i'm not i'm not knocking anything it's just you know sometimes you get comfortable okay but in some order we have those four so let's keep going then you're then you're gonna go maybe mac fifth me mac sunbelt sunbelt oh sunbelt's gonna be up there georgia southern have you have you do you know about georgia southern i do you go in a bar in the south and you see the hottest chick every time she went to jam you every time every single one jam you does have a reputation about 65 70 percent woman female to uh to male ratio and it's it's pretty good like the the meme of sec boyfriend that was very true at jam you because it was like 70% women, 30% dudes. So girls would like compete over guys that were definitely not catches. They weren't really catches. So it's a great place. It's a great place to go to school. But Sunbelt overall, yeah, you got some Texas. Listen, Texas State, kind of the same way where it's like you didn't get into UT, didn't get into A&M. Guess what? We got, can I interest you in San Marcos? um after sunbelt i would look into socon okay i'm not so you get it's obviously southern conference it's all schools in the south you've got chattanooga western carolina firman again i'm not well versed in these schools i'm just guessing i'm guessing i would put it ahead of the mac no where do we talk about like big east basketball schools so most of those are catholic schools a lot of them jesuit yeah um so i don't know what that does also very cold see that's my thing now i will say for the mac ohio university is a very noted party school yes so that's that's a feather in their cap they have a lot of their vibe is more like stoner girls and a bit more like alternative hippie girls compared to Miami. If that means anything to you and your ranking. And what is Miami? What is, what are they known for? Just the hottest chicks you've ever seen. Rich white kids. If you watch New York fashion week, one out of every three models went to Miami of Ohio. Yeah. You guys, I'm not joking you. Miami of Ohio is known for rich white kids who love cocaine. Not me. rich white kids who love cocaine, usually from Ohio cities and Chicago. And really hot. And super hot. Let's ask our AI overlords to wrap. Hold, please. I want to hear about this. Also, Tyreek Hill has been released from the Dolphins. What happens to him now? he is free to return to the chiefs and win another super bowl uh chat gpt won't do it oh why standing on business judging people that way especially broad groups tied to schools or regions reduces them to appearance and stereotypes love that have some ethics i can chat gpt has empathy i can help with things like ranking conferences by on-court strength or recent ncaa tournament success well that reduces the conferences to their basketball abilities Oh, so we're going to talk about them just who can jump the highest. SEC. Okay. What else do we want to get into today? You have another teed off, Big T? Is that it? No, that was it. Miami of Ohio and the restaurant I went to on Valentine's Day. Not going back. Food wasn't that good either, by the way. And then I had to, I had to, because 845, so you eat lunch and then it's like, well, I'm going to have to do some sort of thing between noon and 845. It threw my whole day off. Valentine's Day, I've noticed that on any sort of special occasion out, restaurants are just dying to roll out the prefix menu. Oh, yeah. They're dying to do that. Be like, hey, each item is going to be like a little bit smaller than they normally are. And you can only pick one of the two. 50% more expensive. Oh, I can't believe I didn't even think about this. Let me tell you what else they rolled out on me. so because I guess I prepaid $150 worth of the bill when I bought their ticket system or whatever so they come out and they say a 25% gratuity has already been added which fine, whatever and then she hands me the thing to put a tip and I said you said it's already on there, right? she goes, yeah, that's totally up to you I mean, I've never hit zero so fast in my life yeah, I'm confused and it was a tip So I paid the $150, whatever. So my total was like $18 additional. And so then she offered me to tip on the $18, though I'd already tipped 25% on the whole thing. Okay. I wonder if they just think people won't realize and then they just tip extra. I realized. They get the people that do that. Got to wake up pretty early in the morning full big T. Yeah. Yeah. Not early enough. I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. Don't blame them. It's not their fault. No, it's not the waitress's fault. The restaurant's fault. They don't get paid enough. That's how they make their living. So they got to ask. Again, I did tip 25%. Yeah, I'm just saying. That's how they get paid. Listen, if you're watching the game, working late, or just too lazy to cook on a given night, there's only one call to make. Part of my cheesesteak. We're talking thin sliced steak, melted provolone, mouth-watering cheese sauce, all loaded up on a perfectly toasted hoagie roll. It's a legit heavy hitter cheesesteak. If you really want to do it right, grab the Big Cat Combo, cheesesteak, fries, and a drink. That's a complete meal. It's available nationwide. It delivers easy. Game day got you covered. Late night got you covered. So stop overthinking dinner. Order Part of My Cheesesteak right now. Use code AWL for free delivery on partofmycheesesteak.com. Order in-store, online, or through the Penn Station app for delivery. Okay, we got anything else we want to roll into before we call it a day today? bummed about obama being a being a jerk with the aliens i we we will offer him an opportunity to clarify yeah on this pod come on pod get mogged obama do we have any uh asu frat leader updates have you been mogging anyone recently dude i always mog always always be mogging you know uh pmt is kind of a frame mogging situation what do you mean like you get frame mogged by big cat what do you mean he totally frame mogged you oh because he's bigger yeah yeah but i mean that's not sometimes the aura is what matters sure yeah aura is a big part of mogging you're hair maxing right now i am hair maxing i'm mullet maxing yeah you're just you're jester parroting right now right yeah i on i i hate it but i almost love you are bird maxing i'm bird maxing right now yeah i love it too i i have gonna be uv maxing this afternoon hell yeah outside love that i've uh i've looked at all the updates i can't get enough of it the australian guy is just like patrolling around looking for the asu frat leader to try to try to mog him try to frame max and he can't find him and he's just like it's it's wwe it's like the stupidest wwe storylines that you've ever seen and they're all these freaks that their body types don't make any sense in terms of like the measurements and it's not even possible for these guys to have these weird shoulders it's really strange stuff but i i can't get enough of it I did like the one where, um, how do you pronounce his name? I think clavicular clavicular clavicular got jumped in the club. And then that one dude was just gestured gooning or no, the goblin Chad was gestured gooning afterwards where he was just bouncing in the air, staring into the camera. Like it is fascinating. It's some, it's some crazy shit. It's like a soap opera about nothing about absolutely nothing. Um, so yeah, I, I'm, I'm always interested to see what happens next to these guys. I think if we knew how much money those guys were making, we'd kill ourselves. You think so? Just that whole ecosystem. How much do you think? I mean, there's no way of knowing. Seven figures. Doing what? They just jester max and giga chat all day, and they just stream. I don't know how they're making money, but they're making hand over fizz. I guess they get subs. They get a lot of subs. word on the street is that Peter Thiel might be Clavicula's daddy. Like sugar daddy. Really? Yeah. I have not seen that. That's just an allegation. I'm not, I'm not reporting that as being fact. Did you see he totally mogged the court system? Yeah, he did. Yeah. He mocked the court system pretty good. You can just say mogged about it. Also this mogged thing. Remember the, the pickup artist from VH1. Please tell me you guys know about mystery. No, dude, But mystery, clavicular would get completely alpha'd by mystery. Mystery was the pickup artist on like VH1, had a book written about him, about his seduction techniques. And he invented the term AMOG, which I'm pretty sure is where this is coming from. AMOG stood for alpha male of group. And it was part of his process and how to establish yourself with your body posture. the things that you would wear your opening lines you'd have to AMOG and he was the AMOG of all AMOGs and now he he sarged so that clavicular can seal sarged is what they called hitting on women I was very tail end of VH1 was the Brett Michaels dating show was that VH1 sure was yeah I remember that one what was that called Is that Rock of Love? Rock of Love, yeah What else was on VH1? Wasn't the Flava Flav one also on VH1? Sounds plausible Yeah, Flav Flav Was Hulk Hogan VH1? Hogan Knows Best? I think so, I didn't really watch too much of that I watched Hogan Knows Best R.I.P. me anyway just give me an update on on what's going on with clavicular i feel like he's been a little too quiet recently you want to do maybe a once a month mog date yeah yeah yeah i need to know i i last i heard the australian six foot five guy was traveling to florida trying to confront the asu frat leader i don't know about this australian oh yeah he saw that he saw a hard clavicular got mogged and and frame mogged and he came to the united states to avenge him really yeah six foot five okay he's also a uh looks maxer wow he like does the bone crushing stuff on his face and he went to florida to look for the guy who goes to arizona state originally i think he came to arizona and was looking for him trying to get him to sign a treaty but then he couldn't find him so now he says he's going to find him but now he's looking in florida sounds like you need to be giving us the mog days he heard that he is he the asu frat leader has fled to florida okay which is kind of a coward move if asu frat leader left asu because he's too afraid of the six foot five australian chad yeah the giga chad it is like it's a comic book mixed with wwe mixed with brain damage yeah yeah i love it okay we will see you guys on thursday love you guys goodbye Mmm. 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