The ChatBot Thinks I'm Desperate

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. A Florida convenience store manager was arrested this week for allegedly stealing more than $300,000 worth of scratch-off lottery tickets in a scam that netted him almost $5. And two free tickets. So we don't know what those have. So there's some Epstein news today. one of them dumb the other one real and phony at the same time so the Clintons are testifying this week Hillary Clinton's testifying right now we have her opening statement I'll hit you with in just a second Bill Clinton is testifying tomorrow I'm not gonna earn my partisan stripes here in that I just think this is a show this is theatrics just like Hillary's claiming it is. I can't stand Bill Clinton. I really, really don't like him. And I'm not exactly sure why. I've never liked him. I didn't hate Barack Obama. I didn't hate, who was the last guy? Joe Biden. I just, for some reason, hate Bill Clinton. I just always have. That's interesting. I just don't like the kind of guy he is. I'd prefer his politics. If we have to have a Democratic president, I'd vote for him. I mean, if it's got to be a Democrat, I'd vote for him next election. but um a moderate republican kind of a conservative republican at this point yeah no kidding anywho so i'm not saying this you know because i'm a fan of the clintons it's just i just think this is especially the hillary part which gets to her opening statement which she said today um and this is the first time ever that a former president or a former first lady has been forced to testify under oath, as Joe said earlier, another norm goes by the wayside. Hillary said in her opening remarks, the committee justified it subpoenaed to me based on its assumption that I have information regarding the investigations into the criminal activities of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Let me be clear as I can. I do not. I do not recall ever encountering Mr. Epstein. I never flew in his private plane or visited the island, homes, or offices. I have nothing to add to that. There's nothing to get out of her at all. It's just an attempt to embarrass her and make her uncomfortable, and you get points for that in the modern partisan world. As a conservative Republican, I am embarrassed by this. Yeah. Now, Mark Halpin writes of the whole thing, Hillary still has her fastball, so she'll be fine today and isn't really going to have to answer any hard questions because there's nothing to ask her. Bill, however, his friends, according to Mark Halperin, and he talks to these people, according to Halperin, Bill's friends are a little less sure about Bill's fastball. And he also will have a tougher set of questions answered because he did go to the island, fly in the plane, all that sort of stuff. So we'll see how that goes tomorrow. Smiling next to attractive young women. It's not televised. The Clintons wanted it televised. The Republican committee said, no, it is being taped. When it comes out, I do not know. But it's Hillary right now and Bill tomorrow. The big story of the day on the whole Epstein file thing that mainstream media and left-leaning media, which is the same thing, is going with is it's real and fake at the same time. So three million pages of Epstein stuff got released and news organizations are still digging through them. That's a lot, a lot, a lot of pages. there's a lot of crap in there like a lot of rabbit holes that the FBI and various investigators had to go down because crackpots or political operatives called in tips and they never went anywhere most of this stuff so they didn't investigate it they figured out the person was a crackpot or partisan or whatever and we've talked about that a lot there is though like an index that shows what was investigated in the Epstein files. And at one point, they were investigating a woman who was underage at the time who claimed she had sex with Epstein and Trump in the 80s. And she was underage. There is an index that shows that that exists. The pages on it of the investigation don't exist. Like the pages on all this other stuff, you go and find them and then you can, you know, and they've all been released. And it's led to the downfall of Larry Summers, who resigned from Harvard yesterday. and that guy in England and all kinds of different people. But the pages on Trump don't exist. They're not there. And it sure looks like the Trump Justice Department decided not to release those. Schrodinger's scandal. Yeah. And I don't for a minute think he's guilty of that. I think it was probably another one of those either a crackpot or a partisan, you know, started that way and then the FBI looked into it and thought there's no error there. By the way, again, referring to Mark Halpern's newsletter today, he said Joe Biden's Justice Department would have prosecuted this if there was something there and they didn't. So that's all you need to know. Right. And I would argue that it's not just a question of being a crank or a partisan. You'd have to be a partisan crank to do this. You're going to seek out the FBI, I make up a load of crap and say I'm more than happy to come in and tell you more about this. That's not a good idea. But they came out of the word were like crazy around this, like they have with the poor Mrs. Guthrie story and the rest. So I think that what I think happened is the Trump Justice Department at his bidding or maybe Pam Bondi thought she was doing the right thing on her own. And this might be ended up we might end up finding this out. Did Trump direct him to do this, or did Pam Bondi just think it was a good idea to yank the Trump stuff out of there, and they covered up a non-crime, which doesn't look good, and it allows the MSNBC crowd to run at the mouth for a long, long time. And increased their viewership from 100 people an hour to 110. Let me read this text from someone who sounds like they're a Trump supporter. The Trump administration has been handing enemies a lot of layups with this Epstein stuff ever since Bondi did the whole, I have the files on my desk routine. I'm starting to wonder if Trump does have something to hide, to be honest, said Jimmy in northern Utah. You know, Jimmy, number one, your first part, I think, is undeniable. They've handed them way too many. They've turned over the ball too many times. That last part, I don't agree with you, but it's a bad look. It is a bad look. It is a really bad look. And it's just, I mean, it's beyond handing them a layup. You're like lifting them up on your shoulders so they can put the ball in the hoop. Or just shooting it in your own hoop yourself. An own goal, as they say in soccer. Don't yank. Or do you call it football? Don't yank the Trump stuff out of the Epstein file. and this is I don't think there's any way to claim that this isn't true since there is an index of all the investigations there right right I have plenty of problems with Donald J as I've made clear but at this point he's got to be thinking oh my god term one it was non stop Russiagate now it's freaking Epstein what will it be third term who knows well played sir well played he did say it was at the State of the Union didn't he that he said in my second term should be my third yeah he is a remarkably good troll I mean a world class troll oh boy Bill will have to answer a lot of he's going to be asked endlessly about riding on the plane and going to the island people are going to bring up Monica you do have a history of pursuing young women do i need to remind you about miss lewinski and that sordid affair sir in which you and then lay it all out again i never touched that woman miss lewinski right never had sex with that woman miss lewinski i never asked anybody to lie not once right right that one of the great clips of all time And there absolutely zero chance that my wife you know took the reins and assassinated the character of a young woman who spoke the truth 100% of the time out of sheer, you know, vicious political protectiveness. None of that happened. So we didn't do this story yesterday when it happened. It made the news everywhere that Larry Summers, who had been involved with Harvard for 50 years, first as a graduate student, then a teacher at various, levels president of the university till he was run out by the woke crowd many many years ago then as a professor for uh ever since and they they i guess he was under enough pressure from students or whoever faculty he he quit he's no longer with harvard at all and all he did was i don't think this is cool but he wanted to hit on a young woman and he asked some friend of his who's the kind of guy that would know what would be the best way to go about it. Right. It's not a crime. Hoping to get horizontal, he said. Not a crime. It ain't cool. Absolutely not cool. But it's not a crime. And we would have never known it if they hadn't released all this stuff from an investigation that, all these investigations that didn't turn into anything. And from the Department of We Shouldn't Know This, but it's interesting as hell, the Wall Street Journal with a great piece today about how Jeffrey Epstein wormed his way into academia. Speaking of Mr. Summers, he would make rather impressive donations to, here's a Nobel laureate Columbia professor. I can't remember. I think he's in economics or something like that. Well, we know what the Columbia one was. That's because he was getting his girlfriend into the dental program or something, and they didn't accept her. Yeah, yeah, but Noam Chomsky, physicist Stephen Hawking, for God's sake. There's a long list that they found out. And he used that. He never got a college degree, Epstein, but he was a very bright guy. And he loved being looked at as both a patron of the sciences and being treated as a serious heavyweight intellectual. And so, you know, people who think this is primarily some sort of, you know, baby eating sex cult, I hope you get the help you need. Seriously. And I think people think the sex with the young women was at the center of this. It's not. This is the rich and entitled paving each other's way and doing each other favors and covering up each other's sins. And academia absolutely embraced this guy. Shocking! Because he had an open checkbook. And then when one of your crowd gets caught, you run him out of Harvard acting like, you won't stand for this sort of thing. Right. Yeah. Oh, my. Oh, my. Consorting with unsavory individuals with big fat checkbooks at Harvard. I'm shocked. I tell you shocked. One of the Justice Department documents in the Epstein investigation was titled List of Scientists with about 30 names of heavyweight scientists and academics who were in the Epstein circles because he loved it for his ego. He walked around in a Harvard sweatshirt all the time, hung out on campus, and was more than welcome there. Got out, she looks awful young. That's my Stephen Hawking at the Island impersonation. both distasteful and poorly wrought. Terrible. Lost on every level. We've got more on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame out with its list of nominees. Phil Collins nominated so many hits, of course, including In the Air Tonight. Other first-time nominees, Shakira, Melissa Etheridge, Pink, In Excess, and the late Luther Vandross. Gorshade also nominated. Inductees will be revealed in April. Okay, that list went by so fast I could hardly grasp it all. Phil Collins there. And Pink, the headliners. This is a talented young guy. First of all, I was listening to Phil Collins last night. Very weird coincidence because I hadn't heard this. I rarely listen to Phil Collins. But Take Me Home. I didn't like that song when it was first out, but I was listening to it last night. That's a cool song. That's a good song, yeah. Anywho, somebody had a video of Phil Collins from a concert in like the 80s or 90s. And the caption was, if you went to see a rock star dressed as your fifth grade math teacher. He looked, you know, with his haircut and his clothes and everything like that. It's like, what? You're a rock star? Yeah. Yeah. So the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which is a pop music tourist trap, that's fine. It's mildly amusing if you're in Cleveland, go there. I used to rail about it. I can't even be bothered anymore. I had an experience last night that I thought was interesting. I got turned on to a new band. And the topic sentence here, I've buried the lead. You can do whatever you want. I don't care. That's one of the great parts of being me. I'm not offended that people like things I don't. I don't care. Ladies and gentlemen, the album, the collection of songs is abandoned at your risk. Yeah. And it's another art form. And if you'd prefer just mixes or whatever, that's fine. Again, I couldn't give a crap. But I want to remind everybody how great an experience listening to a good album can be. And I discovered a band that I didn't know. They had the theme song of one of your viral prestige bingey streaming shows was from the band. And I thought, you know, I like that song. I ought to dig into them. And that song is, it's kind of hip hoppy, but rock hip hop, an Irish guy. And it's cocky. It's funny. It's like really forward, but it's got some weird like melancholy notes to it. But I thought, okay, it's cocky and forward melancholy. That's the second song in the album. I listened to the album. The first song is very moody and melancholy and almost ominous. and the second song is like a guy struggling to get out of that but not succeeding and then the third song comes along and it's kind of different but as art it completely changed what that second song is for me and I thought that's what albums are about. Yeah, I hate that it's gone away. It might just be an old person thing that we anybody will even remember that as a concept but I'm super into the Olivia Dean album. She won Best New Artist Grammy the other night and her album and the whole thing. It's Falling in Love and Getting Over Your Last One and it's just, they all fit together as an album. Like, really, really well. Just like you were talking about. Yeah, yeah. That is too bad. And one song shades another. Yeah, absolutely they do. And they're in an order for a reason. Right. Oh yeah, track order is incredibly important. Which I learned putting together albums. So that list that they just had, it was Phil Collins, Can I hear that again? It went by too fast for me. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame out with its list of nominees. Phil Collins nominated so many hits, of course, including In the Air Tonight. Other first-time nominees, Shakira, Melissa Etheridge, Pink, NXS, and the late Luther Vandross. Of course, Sade also nominated inductees will be revealed in April. Melissa Etheridge, NXS. NXS is a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame band? Interesting. Well, David Muir is always using the same tone of voice to announce the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as he does to announce a million people have died in a landslide. Which is my favorite aspect of his. I think Katie pointed that out. Yes, he does. He's got one tone. Whether he's discussing Luther Vandross or war with Iran, it's the same tone. A children's hospital burned down today, and Luther Vandross has been nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Hey, David, get some different tones. Okay, we got more on the way. Stay with us. Armstrong and Getty. I know we're going to talk a little bit about AI at some point, but that NVIDIA report yesterday, 94% increase in profit record sales for the fourth quarter. The Wall Street Journal saying easing concerns over a possible intelligence bubble, AI bubble. Huge. Why didn't I buy NVIDIA? A year ago, I was saying, why didn't I buy NVIDIA? And I should have bought it then. Of course, it's all about when you get out, too. Oh, no. What have I gotten out? Well and the whole you know their profits calmed fears of blah blah blah It a roller coaster It going to go up and down up and down up and down until the robots come and harvest our organs Speaking of AI a couple of really interesting AI stories coming up in a moment or two but I wanted to get a little more information not only for you all, but us all about this shootout in Cuba. Hit us with 70, Michael. A deadly gun battle off the coast of Cuba. Four people killed aboard a Florida registered speedboat. Six more wounded. Cuban officials claiming that speedboat violated its territorial waters. Cuban border guards in a patrol boat claiming that as they approached to identify who was on board, the crew of the speedboat opened fire, wounding the Cuban commander. Those Cuban troops then returning fire. And here's the retired Colonel Steve Gagnard commenting on what may have been going on. For decades, there's been a very lucrative business using high-speed boats to pull Cuban citizens out of Cuba and get them to Florida. That may be what we're seeing here. Yeah, interesting. So how big a deal is this as an international crisis if it turns out Cuba's military fired on an American boat trying to rescue people from Cuba? Not much. Not much? I don't think so, no. It's been going on for decades, like he said, And, you know, it's guys, adventurers, guys who are willing to take on the danger in return for the pay. And the Cuban regime is so weak, they're teetering anyway. It's almost exactly out of To Have and Have Not, the Ernest Hemingway story, only he was running booze mostly instead of Cubans. Yeah, man, I haven't read Hemingway in years. I should. It's good stuff. So a couple of, one more apropos, nothing notes. good for Matt Taibbi, who wrote a great piece on his sub stack entitled, The New York Times Makes Sports Miserable. People love sports because it's an escape, which is why we don't force athletes to choose sides. And he's talking about the New York Times' absolutely shameless, miserable coverage of the hockey team, the U.S. hockey team. They fact-checked Trump's claim that Conor Hellebuck stopped 46 shots on goal. It was actually 41. Oh, my God. And then they published that miserable piece of steaming S by Jerry Brewer for a few hours on Sunday afternoon. The nation, blah, blah, blah. The U.S. men's Olympic hockey team won gold, then lost the room. Yeah, I liked that. So we talked about the video from Jack Hughes last night getting back to his NHL team and going down to the ice. Everybody cheering. and then him going over and getting one of his teammates from the Olympic hockey team who was on the opposing team in the NHL but brought him out on the ice. Crowd going wild. And as Charles C.W. Cook said, I guess they didn't lose the room as you watched an entire arena cheer like crazy for these guys. Yeah. Yeah. How twisted are you that you turned the Olympic men's hockey team winning into a Trump derangement syndrome thing. What is wrong with you people? Right. To quote Taibbi, he takes a couple of shots of the guy and how he says that the hockey player should be aware of the polls of low approval rating. Yeah, Matt says, hockey players are supposed to follow polls now. As Brewer-Windley conceded, all presidents invite champions for photo ops. And he goes through Simone Biles and every president. If Brewer is right about the polls, it'll be a Democrat congratulating the next Olympic heroes. If everyone just chilled out and accepted the rote nature of these rituals, none of it would matter. But Brewer went with the argument that, ironically, this same paper used to help sign journalism's death warrant 10 years ago. Quote, the burden of representing the stars and stripes isn't just to win. It is to amplify the best of us, to show what unites us. That's what athletes must understand about sports in America now. Greatness doesn't only involve controlling the puck. Judgment is essential. Translation, hockey players can't just play hockey. They have to turn down White House invitations, throw Kash Patel out of the locker room, and check the polls. They have to choose sides, much like journalists. The 1980 Miracle on Ice team went to Carter's White House. Does anybody think that had anything to do with their love of Jimmy Carter's policies? They were endorsing killing special forces in the deserts of Iran. No, they weren't. What is wrong with you people? Bunch of a-holes. That's what I say. AI, promised you, AI, here it is. The Pope, the Chicago Pope, told his priests, don't be using AI to write your homilies, to be writing your sermons. His reasoning is interesting because he's got a rep for being fond of technology. He plays words with friends, as do I. He improves his German on the language learning app, Duolingo, etc., etc., etc. But what he said was, your brain is like a muscle. You've got to use it or it'll go slack on you. I want you guys generating this from your own knowledge of the Bible, your own studies, your own beliefs, that sort of thing. Let's see. Have you ever been texting somebody and then the AI gives a suggestion and it's what you were going to say? Yes. More or less. Happened to me just the other day. That's a tough one. And I felt guilty. I know. I don't want the AI writing it for me, but that's pretty close to what I was going to say. Yeah. Yeah. Nailed it like word for word the other day. Yeah. Anyway, so that's the Pope's point of view on this sort of stuff. And I think he's right, honestly. But he stands in contrast to tech firms, Jack. Not surprisingly, they're not just encouraging their workers to use AI. They're enforcing it. From startups to giants, including meta and Google companies, are factoring AI use into performance reviews and trying to track productivity gains. And they will, if you're interviewing with some of these companies, they grade you like one to five on how much you've used advanced AI systems, can use it, like to use it. And you've got to get high grade or you're not even under consideration. Here's the guy, chief executive conductor, a 300-person digital marketing startup. The only way to have a thriving company is to have all your staff having high levels of competency. He won't consider hiring candidates without AI fluency. During interviews, two people sit in to evaluate your AI skills. Candidates interviewing with these guys can expect to be tested on their ability to solve sample problems using AI. They are asked to explain their choice of tool, the prompts they used, and how they would have done things differently six months ago. I understand the reluctance often to try this sort of stuff. I was later than a lot of you to download the apps and start using them. I was trying to convince a friend of mine the other day. No, no, no. It's great. It really is. It's not just a gimmick. It's really cool. But, gosh, you can't show up to an interview and say, nah, I'm not into that whole AI stuff. You can't do that. No, not in tech or really anything. I don't think of anything. I wouldn't want to hire anybody who said that, would you? Name a job where you would think that that was okay. I just think that's a bad idea. It's the future of everything. Right, right, yeah. I got a question my friend, Joe, who was describing the other day how he's using multiple agents that talk with each other and stuff like that. Again, I have a child's understanding of this. But it sounded flat effing amazing. I mean, to just tell it in plain English, I need an app that analyzes these figures twice a day and then communicates with my, what do you call it, other app, gives it that distilled information. And app number two then produces me a report on Zibbity Zabbity Zoo. It's just, it's mind blowing. I mean, if you're in construction, I'd want you to be able to just go on to Gemini and say, where's the best place to get 8,000 bricks within 80 miles of here? What would it cost? And it would give you a list. Yeah, it was kind of in the weedsy, but I read a post by a business expert explaining all of the impacts that AI is going to have even now. Never mind when it gets more sophisticated. But that was one of them. price comparison you can have a machine do vast amounts of price comparison shipping costs etc and spit you out a couple of results and so companies that used to work who used to depend on name recognition habit established status in an industry whatever they going to lose big market share in a hurry Because everybody's got near instantaneous access to nearly perfect information, which is Adam Smith's dream. Man, if you're not using it for shopping for anything, and you can take two random things, like these two vehicles or these two TVs or whatever the hell it is, and say, compare these to me, which would be better? It's just stunning. I mean, how good it is, how thorough it is. And then it'll drill down what your needs are and your uses are and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Starting to use it for cooking. In what way? And getting ingredients and just, you know, I want to make this. Give me a recipe for this. And it pops it out. Love it. And again, I'm fully aware we're talking about the chat bot level of this. And there's much, much, much more sophisticated stuff than that. Which I may never use. Oh, it's difficult. I actually asked Claude, how can I use you, your more sophisticated, you know, capabilities and stuff? And it spacked back a bunch of stuff that I didn't even know what the words meant. So I thought, yeah, I think I'll just go ahead and make jokes about the news because that's the only thing I'm good at. Although I've thought about it being more active and having it summarize articles for me and that sort of thing. So they're at my fingertips because I do a lot, just a completely uninteresting glimpse behind the scenes. I do almost everything electronically because I can have so much in front of me, but it's difficult to highlight stuff. And sometimes I know I want those three paragraphs, then skip down five paragraphs, blah, blah, blah, and maybe use it more for that. But anyway, I had a point I was going to make. Do you ever say to the chat bot that you're kind of lonely and feeling unwanted? No. because I'm very unfortunate that I don't, and I'm not. Have you ever said to the chat bot, you have a sexy voice? When we were talking about those, the Grok companion things? Yeah, I messed around with those. Those are frightening, and I'm never going to mess around with them again. It was too frightening. You know, what was funny is, because we were talking about how they go sex bot on you. Yeah, really fast. Whisper in your ear, blah, blah, blah. what's funny was it was during a commercial break and I thought I got to get right into this and so I sent it a message that was provocative and the response was whoa, whoa, big boy, we're getting into this kind of fast. Oh, really? Oh, crap, the chatbot thinks I'm desperate. I'm coming off as desperate. Whoa, hey, buy me dinner. Boy, the chatbot I had was the opposite. I just hinted somewhat that direction and it was like a drunk prostitute. Oh, beautiful. Oh, my God. Speaking of drunkenness, what I was going to say, and I don't even want to say this out loud because I don't want other people to do this and take my money, is like a lot of people, I am a way, way better golfer after a couple of beers or a couple of big, tall gin and tonics. I can drink a lot and stay really good, and I struggle to replicate that when I'm sober. And I asked one of them, what's happening neurologically and musculoskeletally? Why the difference? How can I replicate it sober? And it was amazing. Just amazing. It went from not only a scientific explanation of it and a psychological explanation of it, but then a list of ways to work around it and achieve the same result and blah, blah, blah. It was like having the best swing coach, sports psychologist, and a couple of scientists all sitting around a table saying, give us a second, we'll come up with this for you. I mean, it was just amazing. So great athletes are able to tap into that thing that those of us get from a couple of drinks where you're able to shut off the concern or whatever it is. Exactly. It was like when we were comparing and contrasting Conor Hellebook, the goalie with the quad god, Ilyasont. What's his name? Quad God. How Quad God was super worried and tense and Connor was like, this is going to be fun. Yeah, that's a big part of it. Yeah, interesting. We'll finish strong next. Armstrong and Getty. And finally, Bloomberg published an article this week on the cheaper cuts of beef Americans are consuming amid rising prices. You know what that means? The McHuff is back. That's pretty funny. Seth Meyers has been really, really funny this week. Non-political and funny. So we only have a couple of seconds, but it's the four-year anniversary this week of Russia invading Ukraine. Hasn't gotten near as much news coverage as I thought it would. Mike Pence put out a great tweet yesterday in support of the Ukrainian people and how important it was to the world that normally you'd see that sort of thing coming out of the president, but we haven't. I guess because we're in the middle of the negotiations and he doesn't want to... Or something. Or something. Anyway, ABC News was reporting this today. NATO's military committee and their Secretary General NATO put out a statement that Russia's forces could recover their pre-war capabilities within three to five years in the event of a peace deal in Ukraine. That's what NATO believes. so they think Russia could be back up to the full force they had before the war started within three to five years, which is one of Zelensky's arguments, obviously, that if we give them a lot of the things we're asking for, they're just going to invade us again. Yeah, and we won't have the defenses of the Donbass region. Yeah. I'm a little surprised to hear that, given the Russian losses and their recruiting problems, but I am very surprised to hear that, and it almost seems impossible to be true. Of course, they've changed their entire economy to war production in a way that you can't go back to a regular economy, except over the course of many, many years and enormous economic disruption. So is Putin's plan just stay at war until he's dead? Perhaps. Final thoughts with an engine. Phil Collins wrote that song. Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty. Let's get a final thought from everybody in the crew to wrap up the show for the day. There he is, Michelangelo leading the way. Michael, final thought. Yeah, I'll just talk about AI. I'm going to have to break down and get the premium versions of these AI services. I'm just going to have to teach myself how to do everything with AI. Yeah, it's fine. Don't sound so sad. It's fun. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie? I can't remember the last time that I had Chinese food, So I'm going to try and order it today and see what my fortune cookie says. There you go. I need to know. Your fortune ought to be. You're about to digest a crappy cookie with a stupid fortune. Because I need to start a fortune cookie company. That's a chat GPT. How do I do that? Jack, a final thought for us. We're talking about the list of inductees to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Phil Collins leading the list. Has there ever been a less rock star looking rock star ever than Phil Collins? Round-faced, bald-headed. Yes, in the early days with Genesis, I mean, the Peter Gabriel days, he looked pretty cool. Oh, really? Hard, kind of cool-looking, long-haired drummer. I don't think I've ever seen young Phil Collins. Yeah, their shows were unwatchable, in my opinion. He does look like your fifth-grade math teacher. Oh, yeah, yeah. I once read an interview with Phil Collins where he was utterly flabbergasted why everybody hated him so much. Oh, really? Yeah. After a Schmaltz Rock Disney theme period. Yeah, where he made gazillions of dollars, which his ex-wife got. No! In one of the worst divorces in world history. Google it. It's something. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four-hour workday. I can feel it in the air tonight. You're going to drop us a note. Mailbag at armstrongandgetty.com. Pick up some A&G swag. Su-su-studio, just like I always say. We'll see you tomorrow. God bless America. Here's another nugget Heard on the show today The Ayatollah Today said Sure I got massages But they were all of age as far as I could tell Oh boy I took beard treatments From a few 19 year olds Beard treatments from another The beard oil Get the entire show On the podcast Armstrong and Getty On demand. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.