George Janko: The Arrogance Of Thinking God Needs Your Protection | #048

All right, welcome to another episode on the Unlearned Wisdom podcast with yours truly, Johnny Chang, where every single episode is a gospel-centered lesson that you could apply to your life today. And today, we have a very special guest, guys. His name is, you know what, I'm gonna let him actually introduce himself, guys. Yeah, yeah, what's up, first-time caller, last-time heretic. My name's George Janko. I like to, you know, tell jokes, learn about God, accidentally offend people when I'm learning. But I'm sitting here with a fellow heretic, so it's good. You get yelled at a lot, huh? All the time, bro. How do you deal with that? Sorry, this is your podcast. I'm so sorry. I just took over. I just took over. By the way, I just want to let you guys know the way that they set up is the cutest thing I've ever seen. I wish I could have showed it to you guys. Hey, we're building. This is the temporary set. No, I like it. It's great. Hey, so we're going to start it off. You had a very eventful 2025. You got married. You went on tour and you also released the Christian Avengers podcast episode. Yeah. And so we'll start there. Right. With with all of that behind you and, you know, everything that kind of happened. Like, can you talk us through what happened behind the scenes and really, you know, coming out of something like that and having time of like everything settling? Like what what really did you learn from all of that or what were you? Yeah. Which one? The Christian, the Christian. He's like named my whole life. And I was like, I'll jump in. We'll start with that one, because that was the last time we saw you. When we filmed that episode in Arizona. Yeah. And then I thought it was an amazing episode. You know, it's so funny because I believe that God turns your wisdom off when he wants you to learn a lesson. And I'm very good at understanding that something could offend somebody. And people, when they watch that video and they think that I'm coming at Catholics or Orthodox people, they have no idea that at that time I was Catholic and Orthodox. It was having conversations with my mom and, you know, I have this terrible habit of leaning on my pride when I get like insecure. And so when I watched it back now from where I'm positioned in my life, I could see a lot of arrogance in that man. And when it happened, I was I was so curious on why God didn't let me see how I was speaking at the time. and I think it's because he knew that I was sharpening my sword ready to like live for these type of conversations. I grew up in a house where we're very good at debating. We like to get down to it. And last year was a big learning curve for me because I realized that I'm not the savior. I'm the sower and falling in and out of that is dangerous because there's times in my life where I feel like I'm right with God. And there's times where I feel like I'm opposing God. And in that seat, I was opposing God. And I think God whispered to my heart. He said, Hey man, like, I need you to focus on worshiping me and stop pointing at everybody else and how they're worshiping me. And so when I sat there and I asked God, like, okay, like, what did you want me to learn out of this? And I think the biggest thing is one, I take a lot of comfort knowing that I'm still learning and I'm not a teacher. And I think in my, in my live shows, I made it very abundantly clear that I'm my life. I'm an entertainer. And as I'm learning, I'm putting it out there. But when I watch myself back, Timothy, uh, really speaks to me in this type of volume because I was new and very quick to raise a sword because in my mind, I'm like, Oh, I'm, I'm defending God. I'm standing up for God. But at the same time, I'm splitting the home into two. Um, I never really talked about it, but that was the hardest year of my life. Like last year was the biggest blessing, but it came with like, think about it. I lost like everything. And then when I finally got everything back and running, I lost my church. I lost family members over this. I lost half of my audience over this. And I sat there and I said like, all right, God, like if you want me to learn something, like what is it? And I think the best thing I could say is this. If you live by the sword, you'll die by the sword. And so I asked God, I go, okay, well, what did I do wrong? And I acted more like Satan in that episode than I did Christ because I divided the house. These people worship Jesus. These people worship Jesus. But I was like, no, but we worship Jesus more. And then they were like, what are you talking about? We gave you the Bible. And then I went into this and I dove head in and I became Satan. I'm splitting the room. And so I'm really happy that happened because it was a really big moment that slammed me on my neck, but it was better for that to happen than the rest of my life, being somebody who separates people. And so now in my mind, I just walk around being like, I don't know everything. I'm still learning. I'll be quick to listen and slow to speak. And then if I do have an observation that I feel in my perspective, this is what Jesus is meaning. I'd rather do it in a way where I'm asking questions because when I read the gospel, I ask God, I go, okay, well, if you want me to fight these battles or if you want me to go, cause I'm not shy. Yeah. But I will be shy if God tells me to be shy. So let me give an example. I didn't care if I lost my career. I didn't care if I lost my church. I didn't care if I lost my friends, but it wasn't that that made me mourn. It was when God was looking at me. I felt like he was looking at me like I was an enemy and I know he wasn't, but it was kind of like, if you act like Satan, you're going to be his son. If you act like God, you'll be his son. And so I came to the conclusion that it's really, really, really such an easy thing to slip into pride. It is such an easy thing. It's like a, it's like our base form. And I really had to hammer myself. And after I came out of that saga, I asked God, I begged them. I said, how do you want me to have these conversations? And he said, do it like how I did it. And he goes and ask questions. Don't come and just point at them and then say something because I realized nobody's listening. Everybody's just trying to figure out what they could say like it's a chess match yeah and i realized it's like oh i'm not in this for the love of it i'm in this to prove somebody wrong and once i started realizing this is what my neighbors were doing i said oh like this is what the bible verse means where he's like i fasted in your name i did this in your name i did this in your name but my fruits had nothing to do with jesus or the holy spirit like my fruits were uh pointing and and shaming or it was kind of like i was reflecting but projecting at the same time and once i felt super comfortable understanding that I don't know anything and that it's okay for me to learn and ask. And I could sit down with Catholic priests or Orthodox one, or somebody who doesn't believe in that. And I could just sit there and be peaceful. I realized that that's the life that I want. I don't want, I think the thing is that we're all going to be on our knees looking up at Christ. And I think it'd be a dang shame that the devil made us a fool when we're all sitting here worshiping Christ, but we rather fight with ourselves than accumulate good information and then go and preach the gospel and i just had to pump the brakes on it that was a huge learning curve for me you mentioned like when now that you're kind of like not a teacher but obviously you going out there's people that are going to be like george something you said really resonated me bro like but you could you explain this a little bit deeper what do you do in those like situations i tell people to learn from my mistakes i think that's the best way i could teach gotcha i think my dad raised me to be a sponge and he said you could learn more from somebody's mistakes than their accomplishments because their accomplishments was followed by a lot of mistakes sure um yeah so when people come up to me and they're like yo this really impacted me uh and i just say glory god i go listen he's using my struggle to show that i could be the light and the salt of the world and if i could do that being honest and uh you know vulnerable then how i picture myself is just dancing naked in front of God. I am in front of the world, but my fame to me is meaningless. I don't think people understand how meaningless it is. As successful as I've gotten it, in a few years I'll be forgotten while I'm alive. While I'm alive. So forget when I'm dead, their ancestors are not going to be around and be like, dude, remember George Janko's podcast? Change my grandpa's life. You don't know that. Yeah, I mean, even if it does, that's only because of the glory of God. It's not because of the glory of my voice. so i've just been having a lot of fun entertaining providing for my wife uh trying to help my neighbor i think 2026 is my most exciting year because this year is so different than all other years all the other years i'm like god look what i'm gonna do for you and uh and like in in in a prideful way and i think it was kind of like i would ask god like help me on this and like like help me do this and this is my dream and this is my and i started to realize i'm like whoa if Jesus came down, I think I'd be asking him to follow me instead of me following him. And so this year I have no expectations. Uh, I'm just going into the year, loving God with all my heart and loving my neighbor as myself. And through there, the, the fruits that come out of it is what the Lord wants to give to me. And from there, I'll just praise God. And right in this section of my heart is where I find a lot of peace and joy. And I've been, man, man, I can't tell you how, how long I've been searching for this again, this childlike ability of joy and peace comes from just gratitude, being super grateful for what I have now and not obsessing over what I don't have and wanting God to give it to me. And I didn't know that that was my behavior because I've confused myself into thinking, God, once I get everything, look what I'm going to do for you. And it's like, yo, I had so much ego. And it's funny because I would read comments being like, george has so much ego and i would look at that i'd be like what the fuck me i was like dog me and then after 20 minutes of getting angry at the comment like oh i am self-obsessed like that comment really like i didn't realize that idolatry is so easy to slip in and i realized that if you don't like how somebody's speaking about you it's idolatry because you want them to bend a knee to what you think you are and to me it's like i don't care what you think of me bro like this guy thinks I'm the coolest guy in the world and this guy thinks I'm a heretic that needs to burn to death. So in my brain, I'm like, okay, I can't please anybody. So I'll just please my wife and high five my neighbors on the way to death. Is there anything that frustrates you about the religious or the Christian fan base? Because to me, what I see is like, it feels like internet drama left and right. Drewski makes a skit. Forrest Frank does something. You say something on him. Johnny says something that they don't agree with, and it's pitchforks left and right. And to me, they feel more judgmental and more aggressive than when I was also part of the secular kind of creator economy or whatever it is. How do you feel about the religious fan bases or the Christian fan bases overall? During the Avenger episode, I was like coming in like, yeah, I'm going to fix this. You know what I mean? Like, yo, yo, yo. Let me get this work. you know uh and when the vendors episode released and i was reading all these comments and my priests are calling me their family was commenting and bashing me like i haven't i haven't been in my church since it's been a year and i've like cried about that like multiple times like i lost a lot but what i gained is so much wisdom and i can't replace it at that time i used to cry myself to sleep because i was so confused i couldn't add everything i'm not trying to be like boastful but dog, I've been crying myself to sleep for joy. Like I've been in so much joy lately and so much peace. And I think it's because I give my neighbors grace. So when somebody is commenting at me or getting angry at me or being stupid or like the Sam Tramon thing and all their audience or all these things, when they're attacking me, God just whispers. He goes, Hey, remember you were stupid in the Avengers episode, but I loved you and I was guiding you. So when people are being dumb, just remember, like, I love them and I love you. So be graceful the way I was graceful with you. And because I got so much grace, because guys, I want you guys to know this about me more than anything. I'm the dumbest kid you ever met in your life. Like full blown. Like I was in special ed. Like I only graduated because I was in special ed class. So I've only made the worst decisions ever in my life. And the only reason I'm here as a blessed man is because of the grace of God. He gave me more wisdom. He made me understand things. So how can I smite another man who's on the same journey that I'm on? if he's walking and he's treating me in such a disrespectful way or a crazy like way where i'm sitting here being like i can't fathom the way that this it's not my it's not my job bro how he looks at me is between him and jesus the same way that i looked at my enemies or my opponents or my thing and then i realized it's like oh this is just a mirror and now i understand when they say the law is a mirror because now when i look at people i'm measuring them towards the law and i'm seeing the reflection and i don't look at them being like yo god you got to get this sick right i'm praying for them because i'm a sicko sure and the separation between me and god are far greater than me and my neighbor so if i'm going to be quick to forgive i better do it now before i'm on my knees in front of god and god's like yo why didn't you forgive your neighbor when i forgave you yeah you know what i'm saying yeah so because i'm living in this mindset when people make fun of me now i know this again it sounds like i'm making this up but i'm dog when the adventures episode nobody talked about me more than that day when that happened immediately i go oh this is why jake and logan do this this is great i grew so many followers i grew so much money it was it actually made me feel bad like i was like wow these guys are really burning me but i'm making a killer this is like i felt kind of bad i was like this is so bad so i guess the the i know i took a long way to do this but in any situation you could look at it from a gratitude standpoint or uh or a cane and able right god this isn't enough or God, this is enough. And even in my punishments now, I glorify God. Cause I'm like, wow, bro. Like I got to learn in front of the world, like praise God. Like, cause I know I wouldn't have learned if I was working at Benny Hanna still. And that happened in a kitchen. Like to me, it's just, I think God is so amazing. And if you truly, truly want to be like God, you gotta, you gotta get rid of the fact that like, people are not going to hurt you. Like if they're going to hurt, they're going to say things they're going to, you can't control that. They're projecting. I know because that was me. And when I see people do it now, I look at their eyes and I see their motives and my heart breaks because I know what they're like when the camera's off. And they're doing that to themselves way more than they're doing that to others. I know that because I did that to myself. We're hiring, guys. Core of the Heart is hiring, but listen carefully. We're not just building a company. 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When it comes to like just you feeling, you know, I don't know if you got, I guess you did get exiled from the church technically, right? Still am. Right. So what do you, there's going to be obviously the audience. they've kind of felt this before they've done certain things whether it's like you know the legalism type mindset kind of like separates people right so yeah what would you be your advice i know you said gratitude but what are some practical things like if somebody was sitting there and they're like look i'm trying to be what you just did i went through it i understand that there's trials and tribulations but how do we like practically put that into like steps to where we can heal because you it seems like you're you can talk about them be like they haven't talked to me for a year and I'm good. How do they get to that position? Or are you over it? It's not that I'm over it because over it would mean that they mean nothing to me. And I love them so much. I think the biggest heartbreak is when I meet Catholic and Orthodox people and they don't think that my whole family is Catholic and Orthodox. So they look at me as if I hate them because of the clips. Because if you watch the podcast and you see all the clips that gone viral, the one who did the clips, he edited them in the ways to make me look way more disrespectful. He actually came out and apologized because he said he was getting nightmares. Really? Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. So like he apologized to me and I forgave him. But also, I think he needed to do that. I think he needed to do a job that God needed to do with me. Sure. Now, as far as my works, bro, and like how I got to where I'm at, the only thing I could say to help my neighbor is seek first the kingdom of God and all of its righteousness and the rest will come. And in my mind, I think the rest is wisdom. I think the reason we're able to do what we're doing is because God put it in our brain, but also let us keep it in our brain. Because there's so many things that I've heard, but I let go of, or I see, but it doesn't hit. And God says, whoever has eyes and want to see and ears that want to hear, I think that we have these things, but we choose when to use them and not use them. So what I'm doing in my life correctly isn't because of me. It's because God's grace of letting me see it and feel it and let it be at work. So at this place in my life, there's nothing I could give you that could help you do your work. That's why I like writing a book or like doing these programs. Like people always ask me to do these things. And to me, it's like, yeah, page one, chapter one, get a Bible and be alone with God. Like there's nothing I could give to you that God can't give to you sure so i think that's it man like how i go about like for example the eucharist was a huge thing till this day every day i get up and i place it in front of god i go god if you want me to see this differently bro like i would i want to see it the way he wants me to see it i see it in a certain way that people get angry about you see it more of like a symbolic thing is that what it is at this place in my life right now i've sat down with so many educated people right right and i've sat down and I've tasted their fruits. And if God was here, he knows that I'm trying to be as honest as possible from what I've tasted and what I've practiced and what I've literally put to use. I have to say, I think of it as a really, really high regarding, uh, um, remembrance. I think in my perspective, I think there's some churches that don't give it enough, uh, respect. Sure. I think there's some churches that put too much on it like your salvation's on it right and i i just want to be a man that just sits in the middle of both of those men and say hey look i've been on both sides i've been on the side where i eat the eucharist and my face is down on the ground as if i'm literally chewing god and then the other side of me is looking at it as a remembrance and i don't i don't i i don't have the wisdom to preach it but as of what i've received so far I see it as a remembrance, a very high honoring remembrance. I think he's present with me while I'm reflecting on this. I think it's something that we should come to with complete and utter trembling. I think it's a very sincere thing to do. But as if in this place in my life, it's really hard for me to claim that it's God only because I feel like I'm doing something that could do something very bad. I had no idea how much I wanted to live by the sword, that these movies and music has inspired me to be the savior. I wanted to raise my sword. I wanted to do all these things. And I just sat there and I prayed. I said, hey, God, like if this is where my life leads me to go, then praise you. But I want to preach until I'm an old man. if you want me to go that way to do the impact that it needs to then i praise you god and i'll do with a smile on my face but lord like i want to learn from this like what could i do to separate myself from getting people so angry that they want to take vengeance in their own hand and i think what whispered in my heart throughout that meditation was is to live by the sword is to die by the sword. I think we get so caught up in like this spiritual match because my, my tongue is sharp and I could go up against three men at once. But if I'm wielding it against God, then I don't have that strength anymore. So he lets them brutally destroy me. It's like when I wield the sword for him, it's like, I can have those Andrew Tate moments or like moments where I'm like with Jordan Peterson. But then there's one moment when I'm with Jordan Peterson, where I go in with pride and God says, I'm withdrawing my talent from you. And so when I get there, I look like a lunatic or like dumb or the Avengers episode. So I've watched myself on camera walk with the Holy Spirit and I've watched myself leave the spirit behind. And so I was like, okay, the only separation between this guy and this guy is this guy's wielding the sword for his own pride. And this one's wielding it for Jesus. And then Jesus said, Hey, what if I told you, you don't need the sword at all. You don't need the sword at all. How many times have I said so that I don't offend, but then we put clickbait titles just to offend i wanted to go back at all of those people that made videos where they chopped me up and they did all these things and i was about to go bro like i was about to go so hard because one i would have made crazy loot from it yeah i'm a very dangerous person to go up against i got nothing to hide bro do i have some stuff in my closet that i'm there yeah but if it pops up bro i'll say sorry about it i'll move on like this like i'm not here to like be scared about it that's funny as soon as i was going up into that literally the holy spirit's like you're gonna die you're gonna die because you're not hungry to change their hearts for me you're hungry to change their hearts about you yeah and i was like oh bet and so like i had to humble myself and as soon as i stopped caring about myself i know this sounds crazy soon as i was like all right george is dead bro like i don't care about george anymore blossomed yeah and i felt so guilty i was like wait god why would you why would you bless me now with this story why would you bless me now with this? Why would you bless me now? Like I realized I was stupid. And then, then now you blessed me. And he goes, yeah, I was like, but I'm stupid. He goes, yep. He goes, but you know now. And I was like, got it. It's like that moment you finally surrender. It's like you have to come to the end of your life is just surrendering into your debt, bro. Yeah. I think every day I'm like, Oh, I got to surrender this time. I like God. And I think every day is a slow battle between you and your flesh. I think that sword that we wield to our neighbors should be wield it to ourselves and i think the only sword that could beat it is the word of god i mean it's the classic when johnny when i first met johnny and um it was on a podcast i used to have when he said don't trust your thoughts i was like no there's good thoughts and bad thoughts he was like all your thoughts and i was like you can't trust all your thoughts that was the pinnacle where i was like i started buffering i was like that makes no sense that was the pinnacle for you too when your uh sensei said that yeah i was just like jesus what a line and then since then it's like i constantly stumble with that but you when you hear his whole story and kind of the journey that he went through is something that you've gone through a hundred times over and it's also something you regularly tell us yeah it's like people come after him like if anybody's got haters in in this faith influencer or you know the online internet world it's him you know what i'm saying and it's like and it's all off of like 15 second clips like nobody really listens to what he has to say but i'm leaning into it this year but not in the way that i was last year last year was like vengeful last year was like god from city and i'm putting on my mask you know what i mean like you know what i mean like yeah like we last year i was about to go in and then i like kind of hid i'm going back into vlogging i have all these creative outlets that i'm about to come out to but the reason i hid away from them before is because i knew that god was working on me and i wasn't ready yet like i knew that there like there was just something over me god's like i'm still bacon like just chill yeah and now i feel a little bit more confident i'm having this mormon guy come on because i had kent holvin on and i love kent holvin yeah he like really bashed mormons and so like now i'm gonna have this mormon guy come on to try to see if he can move me on mormonism and sit there and like have peace with them i think they're very sweet people i mean bro if you're ever gonna get canceled get canceled by a mormon they're like oh my god bro honestly we need to learn from them catholics need to learn from them because we tear our people down bro yeah these people this is the meanest mormon i got excuse me i know that you tried your best and you really didn't understand but i really like you to sit down with somebody really get educated on it please and i was like are you angry with me he goes furious and i was like you're the sweetest people i've ever met in my life i got texts proper pronunciation nice comma no swear words when i went after the avengers episode dog whoa yeah we i saw some of the clips in the comments i was like dude this is nuts can i say something oh this is gonna get kind of like never mind i'm i can see well how much do you feel like at times that uh you're taking in too many inputs or do you ever feel like you're taking in too many too many inputs like hey i want to give you a piece of my mind i want to give you peace of my mind you should listen to what i have to say you should hear me out like at a certain point right there's there's one truth right which is the bible right And so does that ever get exhausting for you or confusing or yeah? What do you think about that? I think it's healthy to practice what you would rather want other people to practice, right? So if I'm sitting down – for example, the Mormon guy that comes on my show, I'm not coming in there being like, I already know I'm going to say no, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to sit there and listen to him because, dude, what I don't want to do is die and God will be like, yo, you should have heard the Mormons, my man. They were the right ones. And I'm like, what? You know what I'm saying? Like that's like a bad thing, but that can only happen if you hear something. Now, what I do, like the Barians, Barians, yeah, Barians, I take it and I measure it to the word of God. Yeah, study all day and night. And so I want to show them that's what I do so I could practice what I preach. And that way, if my neighbor is kind of curious, he won't look at me and be like, well, his ears were close to me. So why would I even give him my ears? Sure. Here's what I think about when it comes to having conversations with other people. People say, oh, my truth, my truth, my truth. I accidentally used to say that before. There is no my truth. There's only one truth. 100%. And you're either living in a lie or you're not. Okay. That being said, when Jonah was about to get swallowed by the whale, they had a lot of people out there with false gods on that boat. And they're all hanging out as sailors. And when they prayed to their God and they prayed to their God and then the true man prayed to his God, they realized quick whose God was real. so i'd rather position myself to respect their gods respect everything that they're doing but then show them how real my god is yeah and the only way i could show them how real my god is is by acting like how christ did and i think it's not by judging them and pointing at them because i did that with my own household with catholicism and orthodox and then the house is divided but if we're going to break bread i got to eat their false god and then when they eat what i truly am gnawing on, they'll be like, well, this has flavor. This has life to it. Why am I going to be scared of their false dust? To me, it's meaningless. So I'll just sit there while they're playing with sand. And then when they play with the almighty God of this universe, they'll feel something. So it's not me to go teach them what's right and wrong. It just to be the salt and light of the world I just there to reflect And if the answer is yes I love those conversations because sitting around with people that just believe in God is pointless to me I thirsty for the ones that hate God or want nothing to do with God I have episode Adam 22 coming out Wow and bro like I'm nervous about that episode because that guy hates me publicly hates me like he'd like he never said anything nice about me But I'm willing to sit down and hear his way of life. Oh, you haven't filmed it yet. No. Wow No, no, no. Interesting. Now, I want to sit down and I just want to hear his perspective. And here's the reason why, bro. I'm a dirt and rotty sinner. I'm a knucklehead. I'm an idiot. I was playing in my little dustpan, building a little tower of Babel, trying to kill God and replace him. And I had no idea. Wall, at the same time, wearing a cross around my neck, telling everybody I'm Christian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he met me there and he cleaned me up and he walked with me. so who am i to look at somebody else that's made in his image and say nah get this mormon guy out of my face bro no it's my brother bro and honestly he has good fruit when i sit with him and he sits there and he respects his neighbor that's something i could take from him because it mirrors what god is i think there's a lot of religions that represent jesus but they take away his name but what if i was sitting there with them and be like hey you know you got that from right you know who said that first sure have you ever heard the sermon on the mount like there's ways to go about this yeah i think my life is this right now love god with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself not chosen neighbors not your family members not your own church members love your neighbor that's it so that's where i want to be that's good i think what you're kind of like speaking about is first corinthians 9 22 where paul literally says right like i'm all things to all men so i could save some of them and that's like a crazy thing because when people come into my lives they're like why are you because we get atheists we get muslims like just you know tiktok and instagram they just pop in yeah and so they're like why are you talking to these people and then i'm like why not right like if they're in here they're obviously searching they're seeking for something like why would we push them away and so you know it's it's true bro like we have to sit there and kind of have a open dialogue i would say to anybody who's open to it but you have to obviously be open first versus like man i'm good you know like i already know what your doctrine is i'm gonna like dismiss it so i i agree with that 100 i think you're in a teaching phase so i think the whole like don't throw pearls to swan like that might hit your heart a little bit more because you're like you have a lot of people coming to you as a doctor but me i'm in the mud and so even if somebody rejects it in my mind i'm like i rejected it there was times where i rejected christ and he wasn't like all right i'm knocking on your heart one time, George, he knocked on my heart every time it beat. It beat 22,000 times a day. That's how many times I should be able to come to my neighbor. If your heart's beating, then you're in a position to preach the gospel. And sometimes some people want to use words. I think it's better to use actions because, bro, people hear my words and they'll see my actions and be like, this guy's a lunatic. Like this guy's not at all what he says he is. That's my fault. And I will be held responsible for that. But my brain is, it's rewired now, man. And by the way, it took me a long time to get it here because I was surrounded by bad qualities. So I was a sheep and I absorbed it. I had to really sit there and practice these habits until one day my heart was like, okay, this is where we're going with. And it became true. I think out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth will speak. So you should listen to how your friends are speaking, even if they're joking, because people mask it with jokes but the truth is they're just doing that because they're it's just like a innate like oh i'm just kidding i'm just kidding but in reality it's like i've been that i'm laughing because that's just me you just called me bro be joking all day 24 7 yeah yeah let's say the realist mean thing and then be like just kidding just kidding like bro dude your wife sucks i'm kidding dude yeah i'm kidding dude dude so i have a question like with you going through all of that obviously like your wife going through it with you like how did she handle like did you did it do you guys think it like affected you your relationship or was it more like no bell and i are one bro that's fire whatever like happens to me happens to her whatever happens to her happens to me right right and uh dude like i was such a filthy human being before i met bell and by the way hilariously i thought i was like god's gift to earth like i was walking around pagans thinking I was like Saint Paul around them. And then when one day God called me and it was because of Belle, I was a man who like, was like, yeah, I'm gonna have sex. I'm married. And then when I'm married, it's like, whoa, bro, I won't do anything. But it's like, I was playing with sex. Like it was nothing. Like it was nothing. And when it came to his daughter, I wanted to still venture off into that hollywood lifestyle where it was like basically treating her like a piece of property And I remember clear as day God called out and he said if you do this i'll kill you And it was the first time in my life dude Where I felt like I was here and god was staring but looking at me like I was an enemy It was the first time I had separation and I think it was because god was like hey if i'm giving you my daughter Just know that's my daughter and ain't you're not talking to her earthly father you're talking to me and that fear he had i had dreams for so long and it was such a funny way of god like humbling me it was her cooking for another man and it was her like getting undressed for another man like in these visions where god's like another man's gonna weep in a blessing and you're gonna weep knowing that i ripped this beautiful like present from you and gave it to another man and it started out slow it started out like okay well i'm gonna start cleaning up my act a little bit and dog the way i look at women now is it's like somebody took my eyes out washed them and put them back in and i see things differently when i think of my old behavior before i just want to rip my flesh off of my body and i used to think that behavior i used to want to share with my kids i used to be like can't wait until he's older and i would have a booklet i'm like look at your father look at look at look at him savage becoming one scripturally is when you leave your parents obviously your parents are the authority and so you then become under one authority which is under god and that's the gospel so i would say becoming one a hot in hebrew means to become one in the heart right one-hearted And so it's definitely the physical side, but more so the side of I now serve under God and you now serve under God. And because of this, that's our center line versus I served because I want you and you're my wife and I like you. And then you're supposed to become one, not just horizontally, but vertically. Right. So that's something that scripturally speaking is becoming one. And so that's why all the people that I mentor that are in relationships, I'm like, you know, they're fighting because one person is thinking about themselves and the other person is thinking about themselves. And I'm like, look, you guys have to think about how God would look at you. Yeah. Right. And when that happens, then you're like, oh, OK, that's not just my girl. That's God's daughter. Oh, that's not my my my husband. And that's God's son. Now it like it literally shifts to a whole different perspective versus like, oh, like she did this for me. So let me compromise. Right. It's more of like, no, this is God's like daughter. This is God's child. And why would I disrespect God's child like that? You said something earlier today about what's more difficult. Can you say what you were telling me earlier? I said, what's a toxic relationship is easier than a healthy relationship because a healthy relationship won't let you run away. You'll sit there. You have to like argue and kind of like, you know, progressively work towards something versus a toxic relationship is like I could just cheat on you. Like you did that. I'll just say, OK, I'll cheat back on you. And it's like it's something that you could just you're not confronted and you're not sitting there going. all right we got to change like we're not going to run we're going to sit down and we're going to be you know so can i challenge that thought because bro like the only reason is because like when i'm thinking about me and my wife like of course we have challenges right but i know women that get beat and they won't run away yeah you know i mean i know women that like will be mentally abused and run away i think running away is like it's it's uh it's like a gene it's like some people run away from things and some people are like no i have to stay here and fix this so that's even more traumatizing because they're they're trying to fix something that they can't or they're just stuck in a bad pattern but in a healthy relationship now again i'm super blessed to have my wife and the only reason that we're blessed is because she serves me and i serve her it's not like a one-way street it's not like i'm sitting on a throne and watching her please me and vice versa So now that being said, once you get into this rhythm of like, I'm going to treat this woman or this man like it is the greatest gift that God could ever give me. Then, bro, it's like you have a second head and two extra arms. Like I'll be moving and Belle would be doing before my lips will like mention it to her. She's like already in my mind. We become one that way. Dude, there's times where me and her randomly say the same words at the same time or sing the same song at the same time. or we're like so synced that if somebody says something and we're across the room and we know exactly we just look at each other because we know exactly what this person's thinking and if she's getting heated i'll just go like this and she knows that it's bothering me she'll like cool me out like we become one without our mouths we could speak with each other you think you got lucky though like how do you find a bell or why there's no such thing as luck yeah but but why yeah there's no such thing as luck yes anybody who believes in luck is dumb but why is why is marriage why is marriage a fail it's a seven we just had james sexton on the divorce lawyer of america america's divorce lawyer yeah um you know it's 76 76 percent failure yeah right and so how many of those got married with god hard to say i would assume whatever percentage got divorced yeah yeah i'm assuming here's the reason why bro because when i'm being a knucklehead god reflects my heart and he's like go apologize go fix yourself if you don't have a authority above you to keep you in check dog you're evil like i don't care who you are like you're a good guy bro but if i give you enough time to be just you you'd be really bad you are a very bad person i wouldn't put him in charge for the amount of 10 000 years can i challenge that can i challenge that i would like to challenge that george i think that to have a healthy relationship is to know like listen i think men get confused when they say i lead the house but that doesn't mean you're in charge i think that's a huge humiliating like thing that they don't understand you know what you're in charge of all the bad stuff get to work you know i mean like that you're a servant like i think others i want to see a streamer being like yo what's up guys i've been serving my wife for 30 years if you want to serve follow me and i want to see that i want to see this guy being like who's single who has no wife no kids telling me how to get a wife like right bro it's like going to a used car salesman and they don't have any cars to sell you you're like what are you doing here bro like what's going on it's funny that it doesn't work out like that though because It's like what you said. I'm like, they're broken. If standards were higher and people just wanted you to go get a degree, like, for example, if getting a degree directly correlated to getting more women, college admission would be through the roof. Grinding it was. You sat it along. And that's when this country was good. Right. Okay. So then I have a question for both of you guys. Do you guys think forever? I'd be single. I got a GED education. I'd be like, um, excuse me. Yeah. You'd never get it. Literally. No. So I have a question for both of you guys. then do you guys think it's harder now than ever to be dating just because of this fear with the internet only fans all this i like dude you know what makes me laugh so hard is hearing people's fears dog my fear is like i'm talking to nations and trying to get through some like nation's head these people are like i don't think god you hung these stars in the sky could get me a girl are you stupid bro are you stupid how ugly do you think you are that you think that the god of this universe can't get you a wife bro the reason he doesn't want to get you a wife is probably because you're and i think that's the truth i think that these these we need to have these real conversations with people bro you are not a preacher and i'm not a teacher so i'll speak the way that they'll listen you're stupid and i'll tell you why you're stupid no i'll tell you why it's because you're hanging out at clubs you're getting messed up you're hanging out with the wrong people and you're scratching your head being like why don't i have a good woman because you're not a good guy i don't do any of those and why don't i have a good woman i'll get to the ugly people in a second okay here's the reason why if you aren't if you haven't found what i fixed it don't i know how to do this podcast if you don't have a woman right now is because you're not meant to meet her right now if i would have met bell one month before i met her i would have ruined it one month really oh yeah so even one month before but even though you had all those other things you still had to fix yourself even though you're with her i got fixed when i met though yeah so here's what i'm saying the reason why you haven't met you the woman that you're supposed to be with is because you're not the man you're supposed to be damn you're not a man bro get out this podcast right now bro no no no not the man you're supposed to be fill this spot please here's the reason why bro right now god wants you to be alone there's nothing you could do to fight it if god wants you to be alone right now that means you need to be alone with him and then once he works on your heart renews your mind transfers that heart releases it makes it flesh and then you'd be like well no i love god i understand god that i'm not saying you don't but you're sitting here trying to figure out what's wrong with you how do you know that your wife isn't ready yet bro how old are you 34 34 yeah it's like saying you're doomed never mind no no she's six years younger than you yeah and right now she's going through a phase that if you would have met her you'd be like no way yeah true and god needs to work on her so like a lot of people are sitting around like have you ever heard that term like oh i found her when i didn't want her you know i mean like when like okay you search for what you can't have that type of thing if you were in a position where god wanted you to have a woman there's nothing you could do to separate yourself from it there's not There's nothing that I did. I didn't do something to accomplish this girl that I weeped joy, tears over. I got it because God worked on me and he gave it to me at a perfect time. If you are lonely right now or if you don't have a woman right now, I would sit there and just praise God and just show so much gratitude for where you're at and say, hey, Lord, I know what you're doing. I believe in you. I know that my heart gets kind of down. I know my mind fills itself up. I know my hands try to replace her. I think there's things that I'm doing that are against you. But Lord, I praise you for the woman that you're going to give me. If you show him that you already trust him, because we live in a generation where we think we're working these women. Oh, we got these women. I didn't deserve Belle. I still don't deserve Belle. I look at Belle as if like this gift will take the rest of my life to show God how much I appreciate it. That's why I think he got Belle. i know bars that that heart posture it's crazy surrender like you said it all ties back into surrender right it's like i don't deserve anything and then god's like okay you're ready for when i give you everything right and so 100 i agree with that and and but here's the thing what if there's somebody who's like out there listening and we have obviously a large age range of people let's say somebody who's 50 50 50 years old yeah 40s to 50s let's say they're still single they've tried they're loyal to god they're like questioning why god like i'm loyal i'm doing the right things what what would you say to that that kind of is a different category versus like you know him being ugly other people being dumb dumbs what about somebody who's over here i think dude like this sounds weird like for example a lot of people were like thinking that i was sitting around asking god to be famous i didn't yes i was just super grateful for i was at And God just kept giving me things that I didn't deserve, nor did I work for. I remember when you came up to me after we shot the Johnny Chang and Avengers episode, you came up to me like, bro, where's your notes? I haven't seen your notes. Where's your notes? How did you just do that? God gave me that ability. I didn't earn it. I didn't work for it. I asked for it. I said, hey, Lord, like I want to be sharp in my mouth. I think a lot of people are in a position because of their mouth. And I hate to say it. that same guy that's 50 years old, I guarantee you might pray to God and say, hey, God, you know, I want you to give me a good wife. But when he's with his friends, complain about women. I think that he'll worship for one minute and then complain for 23 hours. And I think that that's a Jew in the desert, bro. And I think that's going to be a Jew in the desert forever. I think as soon as you could look at the desert and praise God for it, that's when you get to the promised land. That's not a minute before. That's 100% King David and what King David did. So that's true. That's kind of true. I look at him, bro. He had so many women, he got in trouble for it. Diggity facts. Yeah. By the way, I just want to let you know, if you're lonely, if you're sad, if you're poor, I'm being serious. Like, dude, you guys are in the best position, man. Like, you have no idea. Like, I know it sounds crazy because, like, I used to get so irritated when I hear someone on a camera that's doing well and they're saying that. I'm like, bro, shut up. But the truth is, like, when you're at your lowest, that's when God's power can be the mightiest. So, like, yeah, say you're 50 years old. Okay, look how quick the perception could change, right? You're a 50-year-old. You don't have a girlfriend. Now you have a 38-year-old girlfriend and you're 50. Now you're the hot shot at the club. Now everybody's like, dang, look at Chris. And now you're looking at it and be like, I'm glad I was single for the last 20 years because I'm a hot young wife. You know what I'm saying? Look how quick the perception could change. And that was just me having fun with my thoughts. Imagine what the Lord of the universe could do if you could just trust him. When you run into a situation that you feel like it's dead, I think of Lazarus. all 50 years old is too late or um blah blah blah it's too late all right it's too late for you but man put your god up to the test like dude show your holy spirit that you're ready to see that mountain move and that boulder move and that death come out alive like i believe that bro i mean bro when i left impulsive i thought my i thought i was cooked i was like bro i worked 10 years now everybody hates me all these people on youtube think i'm whack and i have no friends and i just looked up at god i said yo i don't know what's gonna happen but i'm gonna glorify you later all i know that and now other people are glorifying him for me like i trusted god bigger than my problem i have a saying already don't go to god and tell him how big your problems are go to your problems and show him how big your god is thanks do you get what i'm saying everybody worships their problems man everybody just sits there and worships them and worships them yeah yeah the reason why peter was standing on the water is because he was looking at jesus the moment he sunk is when he worshiped his problems he took his eyes off of jesus and he looked at what he was scared at and i think if you're single and you really want a girl i say stop looking for women because you're putting in your own hand you're you're gonna start getting in your head be like it's the way my haircut is or it's the way i'm talking or maybe i'm not uh doing this enough and then now ready for this when you get the girl you're gonna think it's about you but if you just leave it alone and say hey god you'll do it do you know how i got my girl i got on my knees because i was acting like a and i asked god for forgiveness and i said Lord I think I've been living this life and I don't think it's right and I used to walk around being like I'll act good to a girl when the right girl comes and I realize it's not a good perspective and I just want to you know I apologize and I started to truly try to be intimate with a woman and be like yeah it was just the one and this dude just walks into my house and he goes hey dude I think I just met your wife and I was like what? he goes yeah bro I just met your I met this girl and in my mind I just said this is George's wife and that was my wife didn't earn it didn't even know what she existed bro if something is for you and it's made for you from god bro not heaven not hell not death not satan nothing could separate you from god's love nothing that's biblical facts so honestly i got i think that god will give it to you when you trust him i think that's it and that's just from life experience man like every time that i try to put it in my own hands i've destroyed it so it makes sense why god didn't give me bell when it was in my hands because i would destroy it i agree there's outside of like relationship i was i was playing to a character a little bit but outside of uh like specifically a relationship just things that happened in my past businesses and whatnot like things got ripped from me and it's similar situations like probably the same feelings of like when you got uh your situation with impulsive or whatever it is it's like everything i had worked for everything i dreamed of everything I thought I wanted was taken from me overnight. And it's just a, it's a, it's a very like humbling experience. But then, but then, like you said, it's like, you don't know how big God is. It's like what I was delivered after that was like, I couldn't even put into words. I was like, Oh my God, why I'm sitting here. You know what I'm saying? Met this guy. And then this thing has been exploding faster than I ever have. I'm happier than I ever have. I peace every single day that I never thought I could have. And it's just like, I think that that's the thing right people listen to this and they go they rub their hands together like i'm ready to surrender i'm ready to like because i want i want god i want that same thing that they have you know what i'm saying because it looks good on paper right um but it always works out it's a form of coveting yeah and it always works out in a way that you will never ever fathom you'll never think about so try to predict it but then it'll be 10 times better yeah i think also like some people get out of a situation it took me i think it was like two years to realize uh after impulsive i was on a vengeful like y'all gonna show them what's up and that's a form of worship bro like you're worshiping yourself like my my everything started blossoming for me when i just started asking god what i could do for him instead of what he could do for me the other piece to that what johnny's kind of taught me too is a lot of times people think that they have to be like perfectly humbled perfectly surrendered and sometimes god will pity you you know or i mean god has pitied me, I'll say. And a lot of times too, you can come to God angry and frustrated. Oh, of course. And a lot of times in those situations, God will show you grace. So it's never this like one for one, behave this way, act perfectly. It's just like, if you just come to God, however you are, you'll be very surprised on what the result will be. He doesn't call the qualified. He qualifies the called. Again, he just wants us to remove the idea that we're doing it. That's it. I mean, bro, it all comes down to that apple tree, like grabbing that fruit and becoming God. It's just that little mustard seed of like, oh, I'm going to get my wife or I'm going to provide these bills or I'm going to have a successful career. Yeah. And as soon as you just give it to God and you seek nothing but his righteousness, then the rest will come. And I think the reason why he says the rest is because the rest to you is going to be different for the rest from him. It's going to be the rest to him. And I think that once we really just behave and take a willing me. My mom used to tell me this. Every time I run into a problem, she goes, go and pray. Get on your knees. Get on your knees and give it to God. Because she used to always build me up this way. She goes, if a man kneels for God, God will stand for him. And if God stands for him, who could stand against that man? I just think this way. But if you're going to think this way, you've got to remember that you're dealing with his children too. So we get so mad at somebody doing something bad to us, we're like, oh, we've got to like. The truth is, like, bro, you're just as stupid as that guy. And you're just upset because he rubbed you the wrong way. But you forgot how you rubbed the 9,000 people on the way up the wrong way. Like, I understand it now. Like, I get it. Like, the scriptures jump out more. But again, bro, like, I think we're all Jacob wrestling with God. Like, I think as soon as God, like, and by the way, beautiful thing to listen to, right? Because you realize a man wrestling with God, if we're having common sense, it's like, bro, that guy's pancake. Like, you wrestle with God, you're dead. I can't even wrestle with a UFC fighter. You think I'm going to wrestle with God? But that means he matched you and he was where you're at and he's willing to let you wrestle this out because he doesn't want you to be like submitting like, OK, OK, you're strong. It's like he wants you to come to the conclusion of like, oh, this thing's bigger than me. What does this thing have to say? Because I've been talking a lot. Yeah. I mean, you kind of already answered the question through all these stories of like, what were your biggest spiritual unlocks in the last year and whatnot? But is there anything else that kind of sticks out to you where you're like, I really learned this lesson or I really appreciate or I'm still struggling with something that God is trying to teach me? Yeah. The Avengers episode, I was working super hard to release a live show. That happened. Split my audience in half. And I was like, whoa, that was trippy. That was a huge, huge humbling moment because I was getting too big for my own bridges. Like I left impulsive and I was like, yo, look what I could do on my own. And then that word caught me and God humbled me. And then the tour was called man on water, being in a place that you can't stand, but you stand with God. And I had this beautiful thing and it was supposed to be like an hour long and maybe an hour and a half. And I was like, OK, cool. I got to put this project aside right now and I have to deal with this this whole thing that's going on because they misread where I was coming from. But it was so bad. I can't defend it. I just have to learn the lesson and move on with it. So I invite this guy, Sam Shimon on, and I was really excited about it because he's a Syrian. And like I was like, oh, cool, man, he's going to have the answers that fell through. I wanted to do it again trauma and all that stuff happened and I think eventually me and him will sit down again I recently watched him on a podcast with Patrick and he said some very nice things about me I've always had love for him like again like bro if somebody's wrestling with something I know that I'm wrestling with something so I'm not sitting here judging anybody by the way I thought he came at you super foul I don't even want to get into it I think you know what I've learned about Sam is Sam is not us so he's like a little older than us so he comes from the generation that if he hears the smoke he's ready to freaking deal with it right then and there and it took me a little bit to understand his characteristics so to be honest i think it's better he doesn't like it when we talk about him when he's not here so i've learned just don't talk about it right so like i just brought it up to say like what my chapters yeah we're cutting that part out no we don't cut it out no no leave it leave it it's fine i have love for him um so we went through that i was just going through the chapters so the same thing then my church thing then by time i went on tour i i dude i couldn't do the promotions for it i couldn't do it because bro like i would have sold a lot of tickets if i did it during the avengers thing but it would look so bad it would look like i planned it so i was like oh man i have to wait a few months because if i sell a ticket now my conscience is going to feel bad because i'm going to sell these tickets off of a bad like rep before i went on tour and i took my first stage presence I had no confidence in myself. Ever since Impulsive, I had no confidence in myself. I felt like a thrown away band member that God is giving me grace. I'm still carrying on. And so I wept in the back of the theater and I said, Lord, like I've stayed away from asking you from confidence because last time I had confidence, I basically spit in your face and I became God. And so I stayed away from asking you from confidence because I felt like that's what led me away from you. And I go but Lord could you give me true confidence I took stage and my life changed I had 15 minutes of comedy ready for them I did an hour and I did an hour every night for 19 cities No, I had no jokes prepared for them. I had 15 minutes of joke. And for some reason I had one hour. The people that set up my tour and the theater watched all these comics like Theo Vaughn, Adam Sandler, all these people, and they were blown away by my show. And when they were telling me that, I knew from that moment it had nothing to do with me. I knew it had to do off the strength of my Lord. That's why I came into this year with no plans, no structure, no nothing. I came to worship my God and to eat the daily bread that I have and share it with my people. And that's it. And dude, this is the most packed calendar date I've ever had in my life. That's why I had to fly in today. I couldn't even do it yesterday. Like I am more confident than I've ever been, but my confidence is not from me. It's from something greater than me. And this is the beautiful part. If a door closes, I don't look at it and be like, God, why did it come? I look at it and be like, thanks, G. Like, I already know it's no good for me. And then if something opens, I'm like, praise God. If something closes, I'm like, okay, praise God. I have nowhere to look to be anxious or depressed. It is in my father's hands and I'm just enjoying the ride as I'm gone. Great story. Yeah. If you love biblical lessons like this, then you would love my weekly Bible class. 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on stage crying it wasn't because they were looking at a man that's like putting on a show it's like bro i put my heart out there like bro i was just crucified in front of the whole world but i still believe in my god enough to keep moving forward even though like i hated myself like when i look changed the whole show based like as you said you had to have a show bro because i had to work for the thing i didn't prepare that show until a month before that's why when people are looking at me saying this is the greatest show i ever saw in my life every state every time i touched foot on that stage was brand new information what all 19 cities had a different show that's fire dude i was in seattle and they were seattle and oregon is like very liberal states very gothic vibe like there was like the people that are performing on the stage before me were doing like blood sacrifice type of thing it was like a very different i walked on and i looked at my wife and i was like i don't know what to do i'm like they're gonna turn my mic off they're gonna do something and bell goes no you don't understand these are the people that to hear you the most so go perform for them and i was like oh that's a good perspective when i was done the guy that i was like oh this guy's gonna like punch me in the face when i'm done he came up to me i'll never forget this he came up to me shook my hand looked me dead in my eyes and he said i really wish that the rest of your shows go amazing that was super impactful thank you so much for putting on that show and then him and his eyeliner just walked away and i was like oh cool this is awesome yeah what were other big memorable moments that stick out to you from the tour i had meet and greets uh each meet all meet and greets took like two hours but there was just one kid that was in the front row and i was picking on him a lot and just making fun of him because people like people are coming with their bibles and stuff i think it was going to be like a johnny chen thing and i was talking about being a drug addict and like a sex addict and i was making all these jokes and there was people in the crowd like super uncomfortable but at the end of the show like older men that like grandpas to little kids were coming and being like this was the best show like it had everything that we needed the whole household could watch it it was it was dirty enough where the kids could laugh and clean enough where the parents were like i'm glad somebody's bringing this up in this type of way and so that was like a really really like favorite moment of mine but one of the shows uh i think it was austin it was 50 sold so it was like half empty and then they changed the room which means 20 people 20 showed up so it was like imagine a 1500 seat room and only like 300 people showed or 200 people showed up it was empty bro and it was my favorite show bro like i had a blast and i realized i was like well this is like everybody's worst nightmare and i'm having a blast and every single person in there was enjoying it and the kid that i made fun of uh he at he stayed at the very end and my holy spirit was like hey like i need you to talk to this kid i need you to talk to this kid and i asked him i said hey man i gotta ask you is there something on your heart you want to ask he goes dude yes he goes could you baptize me and i was like no i'm not qualified because remember i'm coming from like a catholic orthodox i was like no i don't have in my language like don't have it like i don't have the worthiness to like do this and i was just about to say no to him and my just my face broke i couldn't move and i just feel this president just going go like what are you doing like this kid wants to be with me go with him so we walked barefoot all the way to this college place that had this fountain and him and all of his like friends were there and i like randomly came from a show barefoot to this fountain and i baptized this kid and like it was a really special moment like it was like a really cool moment i I was like, whoa, like, I don't know, man. Like, if a man is asking you to baptize him, I think that is the highest form of compliment. Like, it's like you trust you enough to introduce him to God. And I think that to me was like probably my highlight of my tour because I just felt like I was unworthy. But God is keep using me. And I've been in this thing for like maybe 12 years now. and when i finished that tour i had this like really big feeling in my heart that it was just the beginning like all of that was to set me up for what's about to happen next and i'm very excited to see where it goes i don't know man like it's weird dude like i hear about wars or hear about like trauma or hear about all these things and my brain it can't it's like it doesn't stick to me anymore to me it's like every day should be my last day like if you're worried about the war that's happening or if you're worried about your problems like you're missing like because if you worried about god then you wouldn't worry about all those other things sure there's one guy changed my life about war he said to me i was like man i was really scared about war i was like bro like i just worked this whole life and now i have all what i want and now i'm about to die this is stupid like should i retire should i go to do this and he looked at me he goes are you doing really well And I go, yeah, I'm killing it. I'm like, I've just started killing it. He goes, do you remember being in sorrow? And I go, yeah. He goes, is there somebody that has more sorrow than you? I said, yeah, God forbid, bro. Like, yeah, of course. I had a beautiful life. Like, it's funny because when you're with Christ, you look back at your trauma. You're like, that's not trauma. Like you start like watering down what you used to cry about. And somebody looked at me deep in my eyes. He goes, well, just know that if God came back to save the world, there's somebody that needs saving. So if you want to extend it, you're only extending their pain. and i was like oh so it's only selfish of me to want to keep their their pain going like if we look at how many people are in slavery or in poverty or and we're talking about wars and these people are in the street in the middle of it like all these people are suffering and if jesus did come back he would make us all perfect again so why would i be scared of that it's like you really have to talk out your fears to see who's your god is it satan or is it god a lot of people worship their fears 100 yeah under the guise of i mean i say i say it as i see it as like like kind of like compliance versus transformation right like a lot of people comply because they're afraid whereas like they're following because they're transformed right and so yeah i i agree bro there's a lot of people who operate positionally from fear even when it comes it's like fear wearing church clothes you know it's like i'm just i'm only gonna keep this with god because i'm scared to burn or i'm scared to have anxiety or i'm scared to about my future so like they run to god which in itself is not a bad thing obviously but then again it comes back to that transactionalizing thing right it's like i'm gonna transactionalize and accessorize god so yeah bro it's kind of crazy that god has worked a lot at least from what i could see just on a minister standpoint like he's worked a lot to kind of chip you down and just be like, this is where you need to be, George. Like, and it kind of, I see that in even like Jeremy's life. There's a lot of parallels where it's like, man, I want to do something and I have, like, I know when I'm right. And I know that this is what I want to follow. And I just want to do this. And then God's like, yeah, but you don't have the right heart for it. So let me actually help you with that and kind of like broke you down and surrender everything. That in itself, bro, is a lot of grace. I think a lot of people don't see that, right? They're just like, well, what about me? like what am i supposed to do i have to do this i have to do that versus with you it's it is different bro because we've done episodes together and even looking at your heart posture now i'm like man you're you're more like 2026 it's not about me to say that is a level up whereas before it's like no we got to get this stuff done like what are you talking about i have to sit there and i have to like you know plan this and plan that of course god is in it but i still got to plan it's like this so yeah it's pretty cool bro it's a lot of surrender it's a lot of peace in it man i've been chasing this piece for a long time bro and there's nothing on this earth will let me let go of it like i think about it all the time bro i was walking by my neighbor and he didn't say hi and i was very bad i was very mad i was very bad imagine with his hands on his hips like i literally i said no i'm not even joking as how it was and i was really mad because i was like we've gotten so comfortable with not saying hi to our neighbors america used to be different bro Like, I remember he used to walk in and be like, hello, my friend. How are you? And he'd be like, hey, brown man, where are you from? And I'd be like, I'm from Iraq. Look at that. And then they'd be like, wow, I was Baghdad. And then you'd be too close. They'd be like, okay, Baghdad ass up a little bit over there. And then you're too close. But you would talk and you'd have a good time. And, like, now everybody's just so closed off and broken that, like, my dreams used to be like, oh, I got to be rich and famous, bro. Like, people need to realize how cool I am, dude. And now it's just like, you know, there's so many people that are sad right now. I want to make you laugh. I want to make you happy, bro. God has filled my cup up so much that I want to fill yours up. There was an Instagram video I saw, and he said, when I checked your cup, I wanted to see if it was enough for you. When you checked my cup, you checked to see if I had more than you. And in Hollywood, we have a lot of that relationship, right? We're like, hey, man, how much did you have? And that hit me because my cup right now feels like it's just overflowing. Like I have too much. Even if I took a sip, by the time I went like this, it would still be overflowing. So what kind of sick man has a cup like this and doesn't go and refill empty cups? How much do you have to hate your neighbor for you to have such a beautiful God that's made you so beautiful and so happy and so healthy that you look at somebody broken and you're like, pass. I don't like his energy. Yeah. Nobody likes his energy, man. He doesn't like his energy. That's facts. You know what I'm saying? I think my new level of Christ is like wrestling with the people that I used to hate. Like people used to be like, all right, this guy needs to piss off. Because I realized that like, oh man, those might be the people that God wants me to go speak to. And I'm saying, nah, I'm good. It's crazy that you also always just give it back to God. And I say this to Johnny all the time too, but you have all these amazing things happen in your life, like your girl, the tour, and you just keep saying, I didn't even deserve that. I get a standing ovation and that couldn't have been me. It must not have been. It's like that's something that honestly everyone can learn a lot from. it's like an admirable trait that you both have so i guess the question is to anyone listening is like how do you guys constantly can have good things happen to you and then just give it back to god like i'll say that to you all the good job johnny like good job jesus you take no credit and i think it's just a really great trait to have i don't know how you guys do it with a room of a standing ovation you walking out standing ovations and then both of you are just like nope wasn't me like i think because when i was doing it i had no standing ovations you know I had no rooms. I had no conversations. I had no wisdom to be able to perform it. I had no talent. If I had eyes, I saw things broken. If I had hands, I destroyed instead of build. So when I'm seeing it prosper, I just don't want to have a lying tongue. And so when people compliment me, it's kind of like if I was driving Johnny's car and everybody loved his car and I pulled up to a stop and they're like, yo, nice car, man. And if I was like, thanks, dude. and I like threw my shades on and peeled off. Like the guy in the passenger next to me would look at me and be like, ugh. And how I visualize it is when these people are complimenting me, they're complimenting God's craft while he's standing next to me. So it's only fair that I pass the glory to him because it belongs to him. And then on top of that, to add it, if I take the glory, then people would want to be more like me when I'm a filthy rag. If they're like me, I have this joke I opened up. And so I do all the stand up I do for an hour. And then before I get into the preaching aspect of things, I said, yo, guys, like, what's about to happen? It's going to be deep. And people are like, like, like really on their toes. I'm like, it's going to be great. And I prepared this for you. And, and, you know, I know that this is great. And if you take what I say and you write it on your heart and you really, really follow it, I'm telling you, if you really follow it, you'll die. And then I build up this whole joke about how stupid they are for coming to a podcaster to take notes. And like, are you dumb? Like, you know, I just go off all these things. And then I say, guys, if you're looking for a savior, I'm not him. I go, Jesus is the savior. I'm just the messenger. And if you're not going to kill the messenger, don't thank him. And so, like, I do this whole thing where it's like it's God wants you to prosper. He has plans to prosper you. But my dad, one time we're at the bar. He has a cigar lounge. He just opened it up and he was praising me in front of his friends. And he said something that I rubbed in the wrong way and I didn't like it. And it was the only time I corrected my father in front of people. And he said, look at my son already at his age. He's greater than me. I said, how can a fruit be greater than the vine? How can I come from you? How can I be your seed? How can I come from you and be greater than you? If I'm great is because you're greater than I. God gave me you and then he I came out of you. I can't be greater than you. I can't pick an orange from a tree and say, look how much greater this orange is than this tree. And so if I'm not going to do that to my father on earth, how can I do that to my heavenly father? You get what I'm saying? Great advice. Great analogy. Great advice. Absolutely. For me, it's just like reminding myself who I am, right? And like knowing that I never wanted this. Like everybody knows this. My dream was to have a mountain of cocaine, unlimited supply of Hennessy, women, and being a shot caller in my neighborhood. You had that dream too? It literally was like, that's what I wanted. I tell people. And then so when God does bless and give me things, like when we went to El Paso, we filled out 5,000 people, you know, whatever. I'm like, dang. I sit back there and everyone's hyped. all the pastors they're like bro the overflow rooms are going nuts and what and i'm just like sitting there and i'm like dang bro like i genuinely didn't even want any of this stuff like i didn't go you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna jump on soft white underbelly blow up meet jeremy aaron left brain right brain blow me all the way up and get millions of followers in a year etc i was just more like i'm gonna preach the gospel because this is something that saved me and so that constant reflection of just like dude you're nothing right i always say we're created out of dirt and pastor says you know you're dirt always your dirt johnny you're nothing and when you remain dirt god plants that seed which is the word and then you produce life so for me i'm just like bro i i know deep down in my heart like i never wanted to preach the gospel and there's times where i'm still like i'm good you know like i want to just chill we work extra heart honestly and so traveling all this i'm going to prisons you know having all these different people come to me for advice and like talk my ear off and all that but i'm just like god honestly you know my heart and you have to hold on to me and and that's literally how i stay humble is like not to go yeah look at me you know like i would i i think i would get high-hearted if i was like yeah i'm a pk and my dad and his dad and his dad and yeah look at me of course like suited and I know the Bible, Hebrew, Aramaic, Kony, Greek. But in my heart, I'm just like, bro, I didn't want any of this. Legit, it was really selfish. It was more like I was down and out. I was empty. And I literally wanted to kill myself. Shut up. And God lifted me out of that and was like, I'm your savior. I love you and I care about you. And I'm like, dang, like I super appreciate that. Every single day I think about it, too. I'm like, God, like sometimes I'll be taking a shower and I just laugh like, dang, like I'm in a place like this. Like I came from Section 8 project housing, like Monopoly money, food stamps, like all that. And then to be like, let's go get, you know what I'm saying? Like all you can eat barbecue, like that type of stuff. I remember we would have hats and the homies when they're watching, we pass it around to put in like a dollar or two to get a 40 or something. You know, and I'm like, we were dead broke robbing people, doing crazy stuff to sit there and be like, yeah, I love Jesus now. It's like, nah, bro. Like I'm not going to even lie about that. That's the real. And so that kept me, that keeps me till this day grounded. Because there's that heart of when you get that standing ovation. There's a little bit of creeping. You know, D.L. Moody, I study him a lot. He was talking, he was giving this sermon on the Holy Spirit, how to obtain the Holy Spirit. And, you know, there's this lady that comes up to him and goes, oh my gosh, your sermon was amazing. And it was so impactful and thank you so much. And he goes, sister, you're too late. She's like, what do you mean? I stayed here from the beginning. Like I was in line, watched your stuff, you know, 10,000 people. And all of a sudden, you know, why are you saying that? And he goes, no, no, you're too late. Satan already told me that. Like, you're doing good. You know, you're great. You're amazing. Like he already told me that. And so I was like, sheesh, when I read that, it kind of gave me the heart posture to be like, it's true. Like we love as much as we say, like we want to pass it on to God. Deep down, everybody loves the ego stroke. And that's the thing I go to God about. It's like, Lord, this is me and you know me. I'm not going to sit and be like, I'm so humble like hell nah. But Lord, if you want me to go this way, if you want to humble me down, like you're going to have to do it. I can't do it. You know, recently we had a conversation where we spoke for about two hours of the phone. And I wanted to kind of like you to maybe share a little bit on that, because I think this conversation is really good. And a lot of people also kind of struggle with this exact thing. So what if you can enlighten the audience on what it was? um so i what i do is i like will read i'll meditate i'll pray but then i'll also uh i go to people and basically just put my heart on the table and i say hey use the gospel and reflect this character of mine and i think that's what i do with you a lot uh i do that with cliff i do that with steward i do that with robert i do i do that with so many people um and yeah that's basically what i do i I don't think it's too deep. I think it's just I like to make sure I'm not lying to myself because I'm really, really good at convincing others, which means I'm very good at convincing myself. So I like to hold myself accountable while I'm here before I go and I meet God. Not because I need it, because I don't think my salvation is based off my work. I just want to make sure that I'm being a good son. I brought up cannabis because I used it for medical use. and uh there was a part of my life where i was um abusing it and when i was abusing it i was like oh this isn't good like i could be a lazy fool um the gospel tells me to be sober and alert and so when i do use it i i basically called you and said hey this is how i use it this is when i use it um am i lying to myself or is this actual posture of a heart that you could agree with is this not and it's so funny because he was so nice to me he goes no this is biblically correct because of this this and that i was like no you don't get it i'm a liar i do this and so like the whole time i was like i was like fighting against myself and then he was like dude relax i was like no no you don't get it and i was like i just kept like and he like would the compliment he's like oh no that's a very honest heart i was like no no no i'm like i did this and then he was like no i get it and so to be honest that that conversation was like to me was like too good to be true like i was just like nice like i walked away from it i thought it was gonna ream me well so what was your biggest struggle that you do you do smoke weed and you don't it's not like something that bothers you that you smoke weed or that you do smoke weed and it lingers in your mind you have guilt that you carry or like i've had conversations with catholic priests yeah orthodox priests i've had conversations with my church that i came from i had church with the new church that i'm with and all of them from And when I sit them down, I say, hey, this is exactly what I'm using it for. And I'll be honest. Like, hey, I've used it here. And I do this and that. Like, what are your thoughts on this? Like, is this wrong? Because I think of when Paul says that everything is lawful, but not everything is good. But I also compare this to drinking. But also it's like different because it's kind of hard to explain. But somebody who's like smokes and drinks will tell you the difference. There's a very huge difference. Of course. One's like fully lost control and one's like hyper focused on something. Yeah. And when I was a kid, they try to put me on like ADD medication to help me like zone in. And a lot of people need to wake up and they need coffee. They need coffee. They can't. Sure. They're sleepy. I wake up just like, oh, good morning. Your neighbor, that's why he doesn't talk to you. That's the guy. And so I would go to somebody and say, hey, I use this to wind me down. And he corrected me. He said, that's wrong. You shouldn't be using it. He goes, because wherever you run to in your crisis is where your Christ is. And I was like, whoa, am I using marijuana as a substitute for where I should be using with the gospel? Catholic, Orthodox, all these people are like, the way that you're using it seems to be like a more medical use. You're not using it to go party or get women or like frying your brain. You're using it to like reduce swelling, relax yourself at night, get yourself on wine. And so they all were like, no, you're good in my book. You're not abusing it. But I kept feeling like I was like, you know, like I was saying it in such a perfect way that they're like, you're fine. And then when I go to heaven, I'm like, you know, I mean, like, and so I get on myself because God gave me a really strong tongue, bro. Like if I can convince you to buy a ticket and come to my show and laugh and hang out, then I could probably convince you anything. So if God gave me a blessed tongue, I could use it in a bad way. That's a curse. And I don't want to curse myself. And I also don't want to curse other people that listen to me. So I just hold myself responsible and I go to people and I say, hey, like, what do you think as a brother? Like, what do you think this is? Do you think this is something I should get rid of? Because this is something in a season that I'm doing now. Me and Bella are going to be trying soon to have babies. I'm not going to be smoking while I'm doing that. Sure. Yeah. I never grew up drinking. I never did drugs. I never did any of these things. So like, I don't know. Listen, again, I tell this to everybody. Before I did this, I talked to my mom and dad because they wanted to put me, and this is a bit, it's a joke, but it's based off of true stuff. They wanted to put me on sleeping medication. And I was like, I'm good. I saw what you did to Michael Jackson. Like I wanted something that's like natural and that I could wake up the next day. and uh so before i took the sleeping medications my mom was like just uh you know this before bed and that's it but that ended up being like you know it's good with pizza and uh and my holy spirit was like nudging at my heart and he's like hey dude like i think you're abusing this and people would kind of smite me online and they'd be like look at this guy preaching the gospel i go you're dumb i'm not preaching the gospel i'm just talking about the gospel and they're like i'm not a preacher if you're looking at me as a preacher you're stupid like i'll tell you that all the time i'm not a preacher i'm a kid that just likes to talk about god uh but it's hard to put my heart out there because the people that love me they only love me until they find a reason not to yeah that's facts and and so it's i've kind of washed my hands from the world after the sam shimon thing bro if you live a life where one day somebody's like dude you're so awesome i love you and the next day make a video about your hair taking you're gonna burn in hell like you watch this go up and down so many times eventually you're going to be like oh i don't care what you guys think of me it changes and it's sad but i've lost the love of their approval like before i used to be like oh how do they feel about me and now i like i don't care i feel about like and i don't mean to be disrespectful when i say that but like god abundantly made me like chill like i'm i'm where you should be and also i wouldn't trade lives with any of you guys that are commenting you know what i mean like so okay so in my mind i'm like all right i'm just gonna be bluntly honest, I'm going to correct myself and I'm just going to live in the eyes of God. And God gave me a church and the church is people that believe in Jesus Christ and they are under the authority of the gospel and they want to live in obedience of Christ. And so I bring it to these people. And by the way, I bring it up to people that I don't agree with all the other things, like with Catholics. I don't believe in some of their things, but I love their teaching and I love, you know, they have a lot of good things. So I go to them about some things and learn from them, But yeah, I mean, that's kind of a long way to say it. But I basically call people all the time and I write down in a journal, like, hey, talk to them about this. And it's super uncomfortable, bro. Like, it is such an uncomfortable thing to like, hey, man, I've been a knucklehead here. Yeah. On June 7th. Yeah. No, for sure. For sure. I noticed I remember what you shared that was very like I kind of saw the heart posture was when you said I feel OK with it only until somebody tells me, yo, bro, you should be feeling guilty about this. And then you were kind of like, like, I feel OK. But like when I'm around other people, then I don't feel OK about it. And so I realized that that's kind of what law based, like legalistic sanctification does for people is if you're if you're supposed to be led by the Holy Spirit. Right. It would be different if you were like, God, I feel like makes me feel like this. Right. Versus like this person says something and I only when I'm around them, I kind of feel like guilty about it. Then it wouldn't be led by like by like the Holy Spirit. It was it would be led by the guilt and shame. And so we had that conversation and I remember you were like, bro. All right. Like it's you said exactly what you said. You're like, bro, this sounds kind of too good to be true. Shouldn I be feeling bad about you know the things like if I love God and I claim to love God you said shouldn I feel bad Right And we had to talk about conviction versus condemnation And it was really cool like for you to like reach out and then be like, this is what I'm dealing with. This is what I'm struggling with, which a lot of people don't do. Like you say, it's very difficult. Right. And so Jeremy harps on this. He's like, you got with my team. He's like, you guys all have Johnny's number, right? Like hit him up, hit him up. And that's one thing that helped with him was like, he would call me like even like two in the morning type stuff like yo i'm struggling with this like how do we deal with this right i was one time on a flight to brazil in verse i was going to their prisons out there they flew me out i was and this was like early on like about a year ago and we ended up going in virgin airlines right and they had bomb wi-fi bro to the point where i could like still pick up the call so i see the call and i'm like bro is calling me and it's like you know late at night and i pick up and he's just like going off bro i'm struggling with this man i'm like i'm pissed at this person how do i handle that but through all of these things i started to notice that like when you ask questions and i want to commend you for this is when you're sitting here and you're like look i put my heart out as you say on like for the gospel to judge and here's my heart and all my vulnerability and all my nastiness what do you think right that in itself bro is very difficult for anybody to do christian or not specifically though i think christians in that you're like okay we have a set standard whether we people say we do or not there are people who are like you got to live like this this and this very legalistic then to sit there and be like i know what i'm going to get into potentially they're going to tell me what they feel and their interpretations which may or may not be wrong i want to be obedient to god as you say when you're putting it out there it's more different than like with the homies where it's like, Hey bro, I'm secular. You're secular. We're kind of similar. So like, if you just tell me what I want to hear, like that's easier than going, you're going to have to tell me and potentially cut me like surgery, like surgery. You're cutting me not to hurt me, but to heal me. But either way, that cut is still going to hurt. I'm still going to have to like recoup from that and you know, rehab from that. So it was really cool to like see that bro and be like, dang George, you're like literally willing to call people. and i think i think like as you had mentioned you told me as well like i think you talked to cliff a lot right would you say like yeah so you're like bro i talked to cliff about this he had his thing then i talked you know i need to get it from you so how do you my question to you is this how do you balance let's say let's say i give uh advice right and then cliff gives the complete opposite advice now obviously like you know he's a mentor and and to you but like there's a reason why you called me to, let's say, right? How do you, I guess, discern as to what you're going to pick up, what you're going to put down, what you're going to, you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. I think the reason that I do the things that I'm supposed to do, that's good is because I heard the word of God and it's so sharp that if it took me a year or if it took me a week or it took me however, listening to the word transformed my heart. And so I tried to sit there and I try to listen to the gospel as much as I can from all perspectives possible, because I'm not doing this off of my own might. It is the Holy Spirit that's guiding me and comforting me. So when I hear something, my Holy Spirit is guiding me, even when I'm being silly. So when it came to lustful thoughts and being not good when it comes to, you know, sex or whatever like that, I didn't work my way out of looking at women differently. Sure. Spending enough time with Jesus made me look at him from like you know i mean like i went from like yo what's this up to to like yo like i need to talk to this girl about her actions like i hope that she's okay we should pray for my my everything changed it wasn't me working for it it was me hearing the word enough where it challenged my flesh and then i asked the holy spirit hey i want to be closer to you and then through just meditation and prayer the holy spirit renews my mind and gave me a new heart for that to happen i need to be presented to the gospel so that's why i go and i demand people to to sharpen me and ask and because people run away from it because they're like oh i don't want to be held a response sure but i think they're looking at it in a wrong way i think they're like oh once i hear it then i have to act on it when it's that true i didn't act on any of this stuff he acted through me for me to be able to produce this so i think what i'm doing is i'm basically tapping on trees to see the seeds, taste the fruits. And then the Holy spirit will tell me, Hey, like, you know, when somebody said, Oh, you could do anything as long as you're fine. Did that sit right with you? And I said, no, that seems like a lazy man. That's like, that's a spoiled kid. He goes, okay. But when Johnny said that your heart posture will change for it and the Lord will direct your steps, just keep leaning on him. And eventually you'll see it differently. I'm like, okay, that makes sense because me trying to do it myself. I wasn't able to do it. right and you know it's even more humiliating bro uh getting in front of the world after like doing the same mistake over and over yeah it's like bro bars it just to me it's just kind of like somebody's gonna be like why would i listen to you and they have every right to say that sure sure but again it's like i'm not here for them i'm here for him they don't pay my bills he does amen it's a it's a tricky place to be in it's it's a little uncomfortable but also it's very freeing yeah because it's like you're never worried about this thing getting exposed because you're like, I already did. I kind of throw everything out there. And I feel like that's being free in Christ. Daily devotions are back and they're in your email. Every single day I start with the word of God and I share that with you guys so that you can also have the same peace, hope and happiness that I move forward throughout the day. 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Because before I was like, hey, God, thank you for doing that. And also look at all this stuff I did for you. And it's trying to walk into a door where you can't bring this stuff with you. And when I fully let go of all of my works and I fully let go of all of my everything of me and my head has nothing to do with me. It has nothing to do with me at all. It has everything for what you did. And everything good that everybody's praising me for is off of you already. So like there's nothing that I could produce to you that would get me into salvation. That being said, I really believe in Jesus. I really believe that I might not be a perfect man, but I know where I used to be without him. And if you leave me in the same situation that I'm in over a million years, I know I'll be more and more and more and more like Christ. I think I am because my feet, my heart, my mind is positioned towards the cross and I'm eager to be swept away by my Savior. And I think that is why I'm going to be saved is because I'm looking for the Savior. I think before I wasn't because I was looking for the Savior and also everything that I've done with it. and i think that when i read the bible verse where he says many many will come to my name if i would have died then i would have never made it to heaven because even in my heart i felt like i had to do something and that itself will will keep you in a trap 100 because you might lie to your mom and dad you might lie to your priest you might lie to everybody and you're good at it you've convinced them that you're on this path and you've been following the laws i go but i'm an honest guy And I'm a piece of shit, dude. Like deep down to my core, I'm a piece of shit. I'd rather keep it 100. So when God walks in, it ain't like when you're trying to act different in front of your friends. He's going to be like, that's the same George that's kneeling in front of me in his closet. And that's the same George that's on the podcast. That's my son. Come bring him in. You said something that I really, really relate with when you said, I'm so good at convincing people things that I'm in turn. I'm really good at convincing myself things. and that's something that I struggle with so deeply because I can convince people things all day yeah I can even convince myself that I'm doing the right thing and we're always looking for these loopholes right because I struggle with cannabis too and we're always like oh but it's for this it's for that and or even lust or whatever it is and oh but Johnny said I could do this if I don't take it there we're always looking for the loopholes but when you're in front of God you know that he knows you're full of it like you can't lie to that level like you can't lie to your own thoughts and i can convince myself that i'm doing the right thing but deep down and then and then i'll do it because i've convinced myself but deep down i know yeah i know and i just i don't know if there's a question in there but it's like how do you break out of convincing yourself so often dude dude you know what it is listening to his words and not yours johnny changed my life and he goes he literally said this one time on the phone i don't even think you remember saying this but you said uh you said okay bro but you just got to get to a place where you believe yours or his words and i was like that and that's when he broke down like not do not lean on your own understanding our own understanding our own thoughts and our feelings towards it um i think this is what it is and i i look back at the grace he's given me right how i treat women now very different than how i used to when i was single and broken right so but what happened i didn't work for that god truly changed this creature of mine to look at it differently i didn't work i didn't check in i didn't clock in hours. I didn't practice a certain thing. I submitted with my mouth and I said, hey, I'm a filthy rag here. Clean this part of me out. And throughout time, it changed. It wasn't me. I think your job is to be honest with your dad and say, hey, dad, I'm really bad with money. Hey, dad, I'm really bad with lust. Hey, dad, I have anger issues. Hey, dad, you know what? It's not what I say. It's how I say it. Hey, dad, the way I spoke about the Eucharist thing, I felt this way but i offended people teach me if you're coming to him for him to do the work in you you're golden but if you're coming to him to say hey give me the tools for me to do the work you're cooked yeah yeah 100 and i think same thing like it's it's all about grace at the end of the day right it's like george received a lot of grace i could see it bro honestly the grace on your life it's like wow it's the level ups are pretty wild but i say something really funny yeah i walked away from that Avengers episode. I'll never forget this, bro. Have you ever said something where God's like, pin that. And I was like, bro, I said it. And I literally, I felt it just right here. And I was like, ooh, I'm going to pay for that later. You and Ruslan pulled me aside, both of you, and said, hey, man, Catholics are not going to like what you said. And I said, how do you want to say what I said? Yeah. I said, let them come after me. I literally said that. I said, let them come after me. I said, I'm scared of God, not them. Yeah. god was in heaven he goes i i i know exactly how i'm gonna handle this guy cook him cook him bro it did it's dude listen you cash out what your mouth says because you're made in his image and in the beginning he spoke things into existence sure if we're made in his image we'll speak things into existence bro you know many times i see people wanting to smoke and they don't even know and now and i've been there so i'm like so this one guy came on my podcast he's like yeah and catholics i go tread lightly man like go tread lightly dude like you don't know what you're going up against but yeah dude you try to give me warnings but i think dude your ears are turned off your eyes are turned off until you ask god yeah i think also heart position too at that point like you had mentioned you had to go through all of that to like lower your heart and it comes to that grace aspect right it's like for me too it's it's not every time i go to god i'm like god i need your grace like i'm studied i'm whatever i used to argue with hebrew israelites i used to do all kinds of stuff and i'm like all i ever did i think the humbling moment for me was when my pastor was like because i would write cross-reference like notes and stuff like this is 10 years ago obviously um i didn't there wasn't chat gbt there wasn't like a lot of stuff that you could cross-reference and so i would find verses like in jeremiah 31 where it literally cross references over to like hebrews chapter uh 10 and i'm just like whoa and i would use that to argue bro yeah you're sharpening your sword 100 and i'm like dude and i would go and pastor would i would be taking notes i'd be sitting in the front it would look like i'm super diligent in christ-like but he said one thing that shattered everything by grace he goes johnny you're so good you know at preaching the gospel wow you're amazing And although outwardly, I was like, no, inwardly, I was like, yeah. Right. Like deep down, I was like, that's right. Like I'm finally good at something. Right. I want to be a good Christian. I failed in this world, but here it is. And then he goes, but I have a question for you. Just one question. He said it like this. Where are your disciples? Like who's coming to you to actually be discipled by you? And that cracked me, bro. I was like, like I was pissed. I almost want to like punch him in the face because I was like, damn, you challenged me in a way that I realized it was BS. He took that cross. It was I remember it was a Dollar Tree green, like eight by 11 notebook, right? Thick, bro, like front to back, completely filled. He tossed it in the trash and he's like, I'm like, that's my property. You don't touch my. But it was literally like this is what's actually keeping you in bondage is that you're worshiping knowledge more than you're worshiping grace. Amen. Right. And so, bro, bro, I had a Jordan Peterson episode and that moment where he was sitting there thinking about it. And I always prayed and I said, God, how do I get somebody like Jordan Peterson to like, you know, confess with his mouth? I rewatched it over and over again. I don't think you could. I don't think you could be wise enough to understand God and accept him. I think you have to ask him for you to know him. I think it's like for something so big and so above our understanding, when we're trying to do the math, there's too much math that we get lost. And I think he overcomplicated it when he should just say, hey, all the evidence are pointing to you and against you. But I think you're God. I don't know yet. I want you to reveal yourself to me. Sure. I think that is how we get a good relationship with God. I think all of us take the talent that God gave us and wield it against him, bro. I think that is the worst thing that we could do as humans. God blessed me with a comedic mouth, abilities to perform, and I performed against him. Amen. You were made to go preach, but all you wanted to do is go fight your brothers and sisters. That's why when you pulled me aside and you go, bro, I would read Timothy when you said, don't be quarrelsome. Like you're just trying to, you're just trying to, you know how they say the heart will overflow and the mouth will speak the abundance of the heart. One time me and my mom were arguing. I don't know, when you get comfortable with somebody you love, you say some stuff, you're like, whoa, bro, that's not me. I was just angry. And my mom is like me, bro. She taught me how to speak. So she knows how to push my buttons. She's sharper than me. So she'll pull it out of me. And she'll say things where I'm like, oh, you want to go. and i literally laid in bed and god said who do you think you are and i said no but i'm doing it for you he says you're doing it for me if i wanted that at the tip of my sword would be a thousand angels he goes you're far from me you're a son of satan and i was like and i just realized i go i don't have any enemies satan can't do anything to me sure these other churches and mosques and temples they can't do anything to me the only enemy that i have is myself facts and i just have to kill the one enemy that god placed in front of me and it's myself i have to crucify what he should have crucified somebody told me the other day they go life is unfair and then somebody else said i'm glad or it would be me on the cross and i was like yeah it's like oh that is the coolest line i've ever heard in my life yeah life is unfair yeah but that's more for you than it is against you 100 i don't know man i i think of it like this bro like they can't throw rocks at something that's already broken you're just you're wasting your time if you're trying to break me down you can't break me down more than god has broken down you can't it's impossible yeah you could try and here's the best thing god may have used you to break me true but that's not off of your work that's off of his facts so if there's something that's like going wrong bro like before i used to try to figure it out solve the problem be the savior of it and just one thing just changed my life you're the sower not the savior yeah if it doesn't grow it's because his mouth said it's not gonna grow he knows the number on my head so why am i trying to pull out my hair trying to figure everything out it doesn't make sense to me if i don't know it is because he didn't authorize me to know it yet sure the same way the disciples are like yo my man's why are you talking to me in code but then you talk to us like we're homies but to them we have to break it down with a mathematical equation why don't you speak to us like this and to them like that and he goes yeah because you've been given access you know because i want you to know the same way that when they were putting him on the cross he goes you only have this power because my father let it happen once we we're born in a world it's like we have to assume control and dominate yeah we're not there's nothing you're going to do that's going to put you in control yeah and if you think that satan's having a great laugh with you yeah and we'll talk together in 10 years from now yeah we'll see where it goes no it comes down to acceptance like he was saying right and so like understanding i was the same way bro big brain like no but it has to make sense like why is this why is that and people get caught up in that where where where i changed was like man i don't get it all but that's where faith comes in like if i understood everything it wouldn't be faith it would be confirmation like i could believe and i think anybody would believe god if everything made sense to them like oh i get why you're doing that god then then there is no love it's again transactional yeah so to to see that too because dude i just remember george having conversations with them and i was like bro is super big brain like he's like okay but what about this though but okay i get what you're saying but what about and i'm just like dang and i i told you that i was like yo you you got to get to this position where it's just like accepting and you're like for sure and then god did it dude you know how freeing that is before i was like catholics are wrong this is why they're wrong i didn't even come in wanting to listen to them i was like you're wrong you're stupid head come here and they're like dude what about our forefathers i was like they don't know anything let me tell you and it's just like even when you hear that out loud you're like dude you're stupid stop talking you know and so now when i come to the table i'm not coming to them to change their mind i'm actually coming to listen to see what's going on and when i'm sitting there listening to you here's the thing bro a lot of people know when you're listening or when you're trying to wait until you're speaking yeah so how could catholic and orthodox respect me when that's all i'm giving them facts that's all i'm giving them i'm not listening to them i'm not trying to give them a time of day yeah so why would they give me the time of day they're not they're sitting there trying to and by the way like there was a time where i was just sitting there watching debates and i'm like good i'm putting that in my pocket and now i'm just like super free now if i sit with the catholic man and he's like no you're wrong this is why and he unlocks my brain oh bro i'm getting re-baptized i'm going to the catholic church i'm gonna call johnny i'm like johnny you're wrong you're a heretic human being you better come and then i'm gonna gather all my friends and i'm gonna do the same thing that i'm doing now but in a different position so in my brain it's like why am i even trying to act like i know everything when i don't but i could just in front of god i'm like hey god i've entered a new level of religious when people are trying to understand things so hey just just give me grace here like if i don't know and i tell people this all the time there's dude Dude, there was this Catholic kid that came up to me, and we're at the baggage claim. I don't like meeting people at the airport because for some reason, bro. Every time I meet somebody at the airport, they're like balled up in a motion, and I have to sit there with them for like an hour, and I'm like, I don't want to do it, bro. I don't want to do it. I hate the airport, bro. And so I'm sitting there, and this one guy pulled out a book and a rosary, and he's sitting there, and we debated for, not exaggerating, two hours. Oh, my God. I didn't care, dude. Is her wife with you? I watch. Oh, bro. Well, is me? she's looking at me like this and i said something to him at the end of it and i felt really good about it and i was like oh this is where our heart should be i said hey bro at the end of the day dude i believe that you and i i pray that are going to be in the presence of god and we'll be two stupid brothers that just disagreed on how to worship god i go when you go home tonight and you talk to your father ask him about me beg him about me that if i'm dumb and i can't see have him open my eyes yeah and listen i'm gonna do the same for you i go i'm gonna go to my dad and be like hey dad i think this is what's going on if i'm wrong open up my eyes and if he's wrong open up his eyes then we're good yep then we're chilling i'm not trying to stab you you're not trying to stab me and then guess what now we can go talk to muslim brothers yeah now we can go talk to jewish brothers yeah now we can go talk to mormon brothers or anybody that's outside of what we think is christ sure instead of fighting against each other this country is divided and it's not going to stand if he's becoming divided. And God literally told me, he goes, you're trying to heal the Christian world, but you were the biggest tool in 2024 to divide everybody. You divided everybody. My one podcast had millions of views and it was for the bad reasons. It wasn't for good reasons. It's just a perspective thing, bro. I think I just got to learn at the heights that I'm at. But falling up here sucks. Oh, for sure. It's a big jump, dude. I'm just curious. I'm sure you've seen it, but did you see the Drewski skit? Yeah, hilarious. Yeah, so what do you think of that? I didn't like when he said I impregnated her with the word of God. I think there's just a Holy Spirit in me where it's like my mom raised me. You don't play around with like God like that. I'm not Catholic anymore, but I don't put the gospel on the ground. I know people are uncomfortable with that. Rosaries to me should be in high places. Even if it's a false picture of God, it's like, let's show respect if it's emulating something like that. So I still have my Orthodox roots where I'm like, let's not be stupid with things. Like some people are really comfortable playing with it, but it's like, bro, if I had a picture of your mom and I threw it on the ground and I stepped on it, you'd beat my ass. And that's your mother. But this is our creator. So when we use something like the word, when I'm wise enough to know that the word is God and he says something like I impregnated with the word of God. Funny. I get it. I understand where you're going. And I think that joke needs to be said because Michael Todd is out here doing crazy things. i like i'll sit down and have a conversation with them but sometimes i watch things from him like nice and sometimes i'm like my man where we at with this you know i mean like are you a rapper or are you a preacher dude like so i get why drewski's making these type of comments and it should i think jokes put people back in their place to remember things but i think there's a line that we have to have and it's like bro we got to show respect we can't be can't be sliding on god's name like that anybody talked about my dad my earthly dad that way it's on site i'm putting you in critical condition and if i can't put you in critical condition i'm calling johnny and johnny has some old friends and they haven't given their life to christ yet so i think that there's you know man i i here's what i think i think with the wicked and with the righteous i think we can learn from both of them i think we can learn what not to do and what we could do 100 and if you throw away your judgment heart dude you'll be free bro yeah that's why god says don't judge or you won't be judged and i don't even think that's based off of him i think people that judge and this is me bro dude this is 2025 avengers george by the way if we're talking about that man did i piss off people that i called it the avengers i know bro i was gonna say that dude they were mad they were mad they were like there's not even an asian avenger which one would he be i was like my goodness hey but dude dude dude so funny watching people get mad for that it's so funny dude it's not even like you're like Avengers and I'm like geez Louise man relax relax but I also had a judgment heart right and I was very judgmental and through that God made me judge myself so when I looked in the mirror I hated the people that were priests and I hated myself and so I just went back and forth with this hatred and now I'm just like yo God gave me a lot grace got a love and so i'm going to give it and i'm going to walk with obedience as best as i can it's not based off my salvation but i'm trying to show my neighbors my fruit so that way they can know jesus and through this i think god is going to be what he said and he said i'm going to seal this with the holy spirit seal and what is started will be finished not because george is a great man but because george has a great god and from there that's where my posture is that george yes we usually close out in a prayer yeah will you pray yeah yeah please please lord help me pray uh i see a lot of people pray online and sometimes i see people pray with their own egos and they want to say the right thing but i just pray that you take hold of my mouth and that you help me say the right thing so first of all i pray in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit and i pray over this country. I ask for forgiveness for things that you've already forgiven. But I pray that you forgive this country for being divided. I'm sorry that I divided the Catholics and the Orthodox and any type of groups of Christians. I pray that there's real healing above our understanding. I pray that the Holy Spirit unites the church. I pray that brothers and sisters come together to share the word of God instead of ripping each other down. I pray that this year there will be abundance, abundance, abundance of men and women getting baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. I pray that this generation turns away from their wickedness. I pray that there's holiness that is poured from the skies of heaven onto the United States and we bring this country back to fearing the Lord the way that it should have been. I pray that that there's love in our hearts and that there's enough grace to go around And I thank you god for another day on this earth And I pray that whoever hears this message Even if we said something wrong against the word of god or right for the word of god I pray that the holy spirit guides not only us but anybody who's listening Into the right direction And lord, I just want to thank you I I think that there's so much to be thankful for but the one thing that I want to thank you for is that you sent your only son to die for our sins that whoever shall believe shall have eternal life and I pray that this year that there's more believers in America than ever been before in the name of Jesus I ask and the scripture says that if you ask and you have a faithful heart so Lord I pray that you make me have a faithful heart because I am a weak man and I don't have a faithful heart so I pray that you give me a faithful heart and anyone who's listening that has a weak faith in their heart, I pray that you fill it with the Holy Spirit that is so faithful that they can look at anything that's dead in their life and they can command it to come back to life in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. So thank you, Jesus, for this conversation. Thank you, Lord, for this prayer. In your name I pray, amen. Amen. Amen. George Janko, where can people find you? They don't need to. They find Jesus. Okay. That's fire. Amen. Leave a like, leave a comment, subscribe. Thank you.