Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Show Me The Baby

18 min
Apr 10, 20269 days ago
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Summary

A listener named Eve claims to be a single mom seeking dating advice after a promising first date with Reggie goes silent. When the hosts call Reggie to confront him, a shocking revelation emerges: Eve lied about having a child and scammed Reggie out of $100 for a fake babysitter, exposing a dating app fraud scheme.

Insights
  • Dating app users employ sophisticated social engineering tactics (fake parenthood claims) to extract financial benefits from matches, exploiting genuine empathy for single parents
  • Casual deception on dating apps can escalate from initial lies into sustained fraud schemes, with perpetrators showing minimal remorse when caught
  • Real-world verification mechanisms (like asking to see photos or meeting the child) are critical safeguards against dating scams that hosts and listeners had not considered
  • Fraudsters may contact advice shows not out of genuine need but as part of their deception strategy, using media platforms to maintain false narratives
  • The prevalence of dating app scams may be significantly underreported, with many frauds going undetected unless accidentally exposed through circumstance
Trends
Rise of 'baby fishing' scams on dating apps targeting financially generous matchesExploitation of single parent sympathies as a social engineering tactic in online datingIncreasing sophistication of dating app fraud schemes involving coordinated deception between multiple partiesLack of identity verification standards on mainstream dating platforms enabling financial exploitationGrowing need for dating safety education and verification protocols among app usersNormalization of minor deceptions on dating apps creating gateway to larger fraud schemes
Companies
iHeartRadio
Podcast distribution platform where the show is available alongside Apple Podcasts
Apple Podcasts
Mentioned as a distribution platform for the Brooke and Jeffrey podcast
People
Brooke
Co-host of the podcast conducting the second date update segment and confrontation
Jeffrey
Co-host of the podcast participating in the listener call-in and confrontation
Alexis
Mentioned as uploading episodes and participating in show commentary
Eve
Caller who falsely claimed to be a single mom and scammed date Reggie out of babysitter fees
Reggie
Listener's date who discovered the fraud when attempting to return forgotten leftovers
Quotes
"A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers."
Puja Bhajjo podcast promoOpening
"You don't lie about a kid."
ReggieMid-episode
"Show me the baby."
BrookeConclusion
"Baby fishing is definitely a new one."
JeffreyClosing segment
"I guess for the money, like I have a roommate. We both just like, we both just say it sometimes on dates, you know, like it's a game we play."
EveConfrontation
Full Transcript
No gloss, no filter, just stories, spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the puja bhajjo on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. Welcome to it. We do have a podcast for you today. Look at that. Hey, it's brick and Jeffrey in the morning. Sometimes we go, should we not post it today? Now we'll post it. I mean, it's kind of crazy. We have an episode six days a week. Yeah, it is. And people know exactly what time. Like if it's late, if Alexis uploads at a minute late, they're like, hey, where's my fix? We love this job and we're grateful for you because the only reason we have it is because you're listening. Yes. So let's see what's on the comment section. Yes, I'm going to mess up this name, but it's something like, hey, Thimovic. Definitely wrong. So probably actually nothing like that. I've been listening to you guys for about a year and a half now, basically every single morning at 6 a.m. Either at the gym or out running. And every now and then I just randomly start laughing like an idiot in the middle of my workout. Well, everyone around me slowly starts wondering if I'm mentally stable or just having a full breakdown before sunrise. All love from Libya and I hope you know where that is. Hey, there you go. That's so cool. Thank you so much for listening. It's so incredible to hear from listeners all over the world. Like that blows my little mind. So, Libya, that one's in our article, right? No, no, we'll get a map out for Jose. Don't worry. Don't worry. But we appreciate you. Have we got your podcast starting right now? Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, second date update. We have a listener who sent us an email asking for a second date and these are her words. She said, it's tough being on the dating apps as a single mom. Oh, I bet. Trying to find time to go out and also meet a guy who's open to the idea. But recently, I think I finally found someone who's actually worth it. Oh, let's do it. Let's fix it for her. What's wrong? Wouldn't you know he's not calling me back? That's all right. That's why we got your back. That's not good, but that's what we're here for. We'll talk to Eve about it. Eve, welcome to the show. Hi, thanks for having me. Oh my gosh. I can't wait to hear about this guy. What makes you think that he's finally worth it? Okay, so like you said, I'm a single mom. It's been hard to date. So when I do find somebody that I connect with, it's really nice because, you know, it's worth the night out. It's worth the nice dinner. It's worth getting dressed up for and that kind of thing. Worth paying for the babysitter. I know. I mean, there's so much that goes into like just even my husband and I going on a date, you know, the planning and the babysitters and then the canceling. Like I can't imagine doing it on your own. You cancel on your own husband for the babysitter. But the babysitter is always. Oh, I see. Well, that makes a little bit more sense. So you met him on the dating apps. Tell us how the date went. I thought the date went great. Reggie picked me up and went to a salsa bar, like a dancing salsa bar. Oh, that's a like little sexy date. That's fun. Like food salsa or like dancing salsa? Like the culture of Latin dance. No one eats just salsa. That's just saying that there's a business opportunity there for somebody who wants to jump in and take it. Actually, I'd be there. I mean, I just heard about recently. I would try right. Not far off. I'll get a spot. Yeah. We're investing. Okay. So a dancing date. Yeah. So, you know, we danced and we had a drink and it was really loud, but like it was really fun. Was he really good at dancing? Like my roommate got into salsa for a while and I would go to bars with her and the people who were into it were unbelievable. You know, I actually go to Latin dance night and that was the funnest time. Yeah, there's people on the floor. They're so good that are like throwing each other. So what level are you at? Oh, you know, we were the level where we were doing our best and having fun. That's perfect. That's the majority. I just wondered if you're on the same page. Yeah. How far did he toss you across the room? How many feet? Thankfully not very far. Oh, wait, you got to go to the bathroom here. Let me know. Just throw her. All right. That's so fun. That sounds like a great night. Sounds like you're connecting. Yeah. And having fun. We had such a great time. But you know, those kinds of places, like they're really loud and it's hard to talk. So we went to another place after that where we could just talk and like get to know each other. Oh, what a balance. Even better. Well, it sounds like this guy put a lot of thought into the date. You know, like he knew you're a busy single mom that you needed to be treated. And you just didn't have fun. Even if you don't like him, at least he treated you a fun night. Totally. Yeah, totally. And like, I really liked ready because he was a really good listener. You know, like a lot of guys these days, they only talked about themselves. Like they don't ask any questions. That's not good for anyone. So like talking with Reggie was great. And like I learned about him and his family. And it was just really nice to sit down and connect with someone. Is he a single dad too? I know he's not a single dad. Oh, he's a married dad. That's even better. No, no, no, no. He knows how it works. No, no, no. He's not married, of course. And he doesn't have any kids, but he does know that I have a daughter. Obviously. Okay. I'm very upfront with that. Okay. Well, that all sounds great. At least on the surface. How did it end? I think it ended great. Like he drove me back to my place and I didn't invite him up, of course, but I did give him a kiss tonight. And then I went inside and I haven't heard from him since. So weird. Can you think of any reason why that would be? I've been going over in my head and like the only thing that I can think of is like he's a decent looking guy. He's personable. Like I had a lot of fun with him and like he probably has a lot of options. Yeah. Like when you're on dating up, you're looking at so many people and you have a bunch of options in front of you. But you're the best option. And he was wrong with him. He knows you have options too. Everybody does. I knew I do know how that feels to get that. So to get the great guy, you know, why are you so sad? Lots of options available to you. Yeah, he's perfect. You know, oh, that you're the guy. Yeah, like being like the guy in that position with all these great options, doing all these great things, oppressing all of these women. I thought you were getting turned down. Yeah. That's why we do that. It's just more believable the way Alexis and I, you know, girls are like, it's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, now I don't even want to help. So just drop it. Forget it. All right, Brooke, you say the nice thing to end this call then go ahead. I'm actually really excited to call this guy. I think we can fix it. Well, he's a jerk who's not calling you back. So I don't think he's quite that decent. We're going to find out. I would have called you back as like a good gentleman, but we'll see what his excuse is. Well, no, that's okay. Don't make excuses. We'll see what he has to say when we come back and do your second date update right after this. Hold on. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. On this show, we love single moms. Yeah, we do. Our number one single mom is Alexis's mother, Barb. She is our personal fave. But number two, at least for today is our listener Eve, who's been struggling to meet a good guy that's even open to the idea of going. She should hang out with Barb. Barb's not looking for good guys. Let's be honest, Alexis. Eve met a guy named Reggie online recently. They went salsa dancing and they talked and connected. But after the date, Reggie's gone kind of AWOL, which is not cool. Alexis, what would Barb do if this happened to her? Ooh, WBD. That's the same thing. I don't know. She'd probably be out another night out with her friends again, you know, just moving on. Oh, well, I hope that she would feel comfortable calling us for help. Like Eve did. Oh, you want to do that from the bar? You want to do an update with Alexis's mall? If she ever needs it. But today we're stepping in to help our listener Eve. And if nothing else, maybe get some answers from this Reggie guy. Oh, you're mad at him. I am single moms deserve better. And Alexis, I hope your mother knows that I feel that way. Okay, I'm done nudging my mom on this show for the day. I'm just saying we're always there for Barb. Yeah, we are. Barb, if you're listening, we're here for you. By the way, I love your last Instagram pic, Barb. She's not. I would love a new segment, Barb's Problems. Yeah, but sorry, this brings us back to Eve. Eve, we're here for you today. Okay, 100%. Thank you. I think this is going to turn out great. I think that there's either some sort of scheduling thing. Maybe he's intimidated that you're like a strong, independent woman. You know, something that could be fixed. Yeah, I'm sure it's going to be something super fun like that. Yeah, he's intimidated by what a great woman you are. Yeah, that could happen. Yeah, I'm with Brooke. Maybe we call him and he's like, there's no other day can get better than that. I sure hope so. Let's call him right now and see what he has to say if he picks up. Here we go. Hello. Hey, is this Reggie? Yes, it is. We're calling. Hello, Reggie. Oh, quiet talker. Hi, Reggie. Hello. Sorry, there's more than one of us. Hi. You're on a radio show right now called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and we are not too happy with you right now. Reggie, you sound like a pretty stand up guy, Jeffrey. You don't need to come in so hard. He said hello and you got stand up guy from hello. No, he took a woman out on a beautiful date, put some energy into it. What's this about? The reason why some of us are not happy with you is because you went out with one of our listeners named Eve, a wonderful single mother and afterwards you have the audacity to not call her. I don't know why my co-hosts are laughing at that idea. It's kind of rude if you ask me. Why are you so mad? Eve called you. Yes. Well, she emailed us. E-mailed for help because this might be shocking to you, but she had a nice time the other night. Well, I mean, anything's weird with her. I think she's like a scammer or a liar. A scammer. I don't know. Okay. I'll tell you, normally if someone stole something, they wouldn't call a radio show to reach out to that person for you. Yes, I am kind of surprised. It sounds like you planned a great night with her. She told me it's hard for her because she's a single mom. Yeah. Maybe sitters are expensive. Totally. She can't afford it. So, trying to be a gentleman here, I offer, you know, what if I pay for the sitter and then you can come? Oh, good move. I almost brought that up. I didn't want to put that in the air, but that's a really nice gesture. I think my husband would be okay if I was in a dating app if we could get somebody to pay for the sitter. That's always good though. Great. So, you're even more of a gentleman, brother. Okay. That's awesome. I'm kind of apologizing now for coming on so hard at you at the beginning. Oh, now you're feeling bad, don't you? Wow. That's a good move. I will admit it. She has a soft spot for kids. Okay. Yeah. So, the night of the day, I show up. She comes down. I've emulhered a hundred bucks. Everything's okay. You know, afterwards, I drop her back off at her apartment. She goes inside. Yeah. I'm driving down. I realize she left her doggy bag or leftover food in my car. Oh, okay. Come back, go to the door of the apartment. Knock on the door. There was another resident there. So, I told the person there, hey, so I went out with a woman, a mom who lives here in the building. Her name is E. Uh-huh. Yeah. I don't know which apartment she lives in, but this is hers. Can you give it to her? Okay. That's nice. Yeah. What'd they say? She says, I know Eve, but she's not a mom. What? And I'm like, well, what do you mean? She told me she had a three-year-old daughter. Yeah. I thought that she had a babysitter. I paid for the babysitter. She's like, no, she has a roommate, but no kids. What? Are you sure? Wait, wait. Wait a second. Don't just ask the stranger in the lobby. Yeah, but, I mean, it's an apartment complex. There could be two eaves. It's not like it's a super common name. I mean, it had to be the same Eve because she said that she just saw her come back. Wait. My neighbors don't know I have pets. Like, you know, we lie. Yeah, and she's like, you know what? You don't lie about a kid. Me, you do. Clearly, we need to get to the bottom of what's going on. There's some sort of confusion is going on. For sure. And I need to tell you, Reggie, Eve is actually on the phone already listening to this conversation. What are you talking about? Yeah. That's how this works. Hi. You come in so pleasant. That was a pretty big accusation. Yeah. What's going on? Okay. I am so sorry. Oh, no. Wait a second. Are you not a single mom? I mean, that's why I didn't bring up my daughter's name. I mean, because I don't have a daughter. What? Wait a second. We had all this empathy for you. Like, we had a whole discussion about how hard it was for single mom. Jeff almost attacked Reggie before the phone was cut. Are you serious? Yeah. I'm serious. I came at him so hard at the beginning of this. Why would you lie about that? Who wants to be a single mom on a dating app? Yeah. That doesn't help you, does it? Eve, explain. I guess for the money, like I have a roommate. We both just like, we both just say it sometimes on dates, you know, like it's a game we play. Just slips out. Do you have a pretend child? $100. Sorry. Charge more. Out of here. $100 is perfect because I would totally fall for this. You're not going to ask for pictures of the kids. Can we stop trying to make her scam better? Yes, they do. To get even more money? I just mean it's worth it. I'm disappointed. Maybe don't be that for a second. This is terrible. Eve. Why would you call us if the whole thing was a lie? Because she actually liked him. Watch. Well, yeah, I did like him. Oh, no. What's your plan to like go out with Reggie like five, ten more times until you eventually reveal, oh, by the way. Yeah, I never had a baby. I'm not actually a mother of any children. And by the way, thank you for the $1,000 in babysitting fees that you paid for all of our dates. When did the babysitting payment stop? So messed up. Yeah, that's so messed up. Yeah. Not like that. Like you're ruining it for actual single moms who want to date these good guys. Like now they're going to be like all skeptical and jaded and- I'm skeptical if Alexis's mom is really a mom at this point. How do you even know? We don't know. Pretty sure. We have no idea. She's been asking for babysitting money for someone to watch Alexis for years. I'm trying to split it with her 50-50. That whole thing is scam? Oh my God. That sucks. I mean, there are some girls who just take the money before a date and don't actually go out with the guys, but like I do. Okay, well, yeah, you're right. You're totally a good person then. You at least waited until after the date to accept the money. A lie going longer. A real mom would say if other girls jumped off a bridge, would you jump off one too? That's fair. That's a mom coming in. I mean, the whole point of this call was to reach out to Reggie to see if he wanted to go out with you one more time. But first, I think Reggie probably needs an apology from you, Eve, and probably his money back. Yeah. Do you want to say anything to Reggie? I do. Reggie, I'm really sorry. I don't have the money right now, but I will repay you eventually. Oh boy. After she goes on a date with another guy who pays $100. I wish you guys wouldn't be so harsh on me. I really am trying here. I wish you would have told us the truth. You scammed us too, man. I mean, I didn't know it was going to be bussed on the radio. So I was like, well. So you're only sad and upset when you get caught. It's like when you get your cheater and it's like, well, I was going to tell you. Yeah. Okay, so Reggie, I mean, she's apologized and offered to at least pay the money back when she gets it. Do you have anything you want to say to her? Yeah, I'm putting her on blast. I'm putting this all over my Instagram. I got screenshots of your photo. I'm not necessary. I want other people to know not to get scammed by you. I know. That feels icky too. So are you saying Reggie that you are open to dating her? Or are you done? Because remember, we will pay for that next date and the babysitter fee too. Okay. Wait, does it cost $0 if you don't actually have a kid? Yeah, that's exactly what we'll do. So we always offer to send you guys out. I'll watch your pretend baby. Reggie. Yeah, no thanks. God, you could have made a lot of money as a couple, you know, you never knew how the scam would work out. Yeah, it could have had like three more pretend kids got $400. Eve, I mean, has this taught you a lesson? You going to change your ways going forward? Maybe. I don't know. I have to talk to my real parents. This is a good lesson for any guy out there who's going out with a single mom. You need to say, show me the baby. No. That is not it. Oh really, you're a mom? Just supposed to believe you? I tell you, there's not a mom out there that wouldn't immediately show up. I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you. Yeah, that's normally naturally. Honestly, or just even see their lock screen. Their lock screen is going to be a picture of their children. That's how it is. I mean, I've heard of cat fishing on the dating apps before, but baby fishing is definitely a new one. Dude, oh man. I just still can't believe she was so confident that her like scam work that she called us. Yeah. I mean, how many dating scams do we not even know about that happen on this show right under our nose? Seriously. People lying about something that we never know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I know one thing that we never uncover. I don't know. Thankfully, this guy randomly figured it out by trying to bring his date her leftovers and was outed for that. And that was just the universe. That wasn't anyone's fault she left it. Maybe that's why all those other radio shows ask the little kids to come on and talk for their mommy. Oh, like, is there a kid in the background? Come say hi. You got to prove it, Jen. But you don't have to prove anything to us. We'll take you at your word for the most part. We're suckers. Anybody who isn't calling you back and go check out all of our podcasts wherever you get yours at broken Jeffery No gloss no filter just stories Spoken without fear person who's not generous cannot be an artist the world will be at peace Only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers Listen to my weekly podcast the pooja bhajjo on the i heart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts Come for the honesty stay for the fire