Ep 579 - Crumb & The Hutt (feat. Joe Derosa & Lemaire Lee)
94 min
•Oct 1, 20257 months agoSummary
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast features guests Joe DeRosa and Lemaire Lee discussing American history (particularly the Revolutionary War and the origin of the country's name), Star Wars lore and character comparisons, sports meltdowns, and personal anecdotes about drinking, comedy, and friendship dynamics.
Insights
- Historical narratives often contain gaps and uncertainties—the origin of 'United States of America' remains debated, showing how founding myths are constructed and revised
- Alcohol's addictive nature persists because negative consequences occur after consumption rather than during, making it psychologically harder to quit than drugs with immediate negative effects
- Sports and gaming meltdowns reveal deeper psychological patterns—prolonged stress, investment in outcomes, and lack of control trigger disproportionate emotional responses in otherwise composed individuals
- Prohibition-era social policy was driven by women's movements addressing domestic violence and family safety, not just moral concerns about drinking itself
- Comedians and entertainers use self-deprecating humor and mutual roasting as bonding mechanisms, but awareness of these patterns can shift relationship dynamics toward more genuine care
Trends
Renewed interest in American Revolutionary War history among younger audiences, driven by accessible documentary formats like Ken Burns' workStar Wars franchise fatigue among core fans due to perceived ideological messaging in recent Disney productions (The Acolyte cancellation cited)Alcohol consumption normalization in comedy and podcast culture, with open discussion of daily drinking and hangovers as lifestyle rather than concernSports entertainment value increasingly tied to emotional authenticity and unfiltered coach/player reactions rather than sanitized professionalismDocumentary filmmaking as cultural touchstone—Ken Burns' work cited as formative for historical understanding across demographicsNostalgia-driven entertainment consumption (Everybody Loves Raymond revival, original Star Wars trilogy preference over prequels/sequels)Gaming and esports competitive culture producing extreme emotional responses comparable to traditional sports, indicating mainstream legitimacy
Topics
American Revolutionary War history and founding mythologyOrigin and etymology of 'United States of America'Ken Burns documentary filmmaking and historical narrativeStar Wars franchise quality and creative directionAlcohol addiction and consumption patternsSports coach meltdowns and emotional regulationProhibition era and domestic violence preventionComedy touring and road life challengesFriendship dynamics and mutual criticismVideo game competitive culture and player psychologyBatman vs Superman moral philosophyDocumentary storytelling and historical accuracySpeakeasy culture and bootleggingStandup comedy performance in unconventional venuesNostalgia in entertainment and media consumption
Companies
People
Joe DeRosa
Guest on episode; discussed comedy touring, rapping background, and personal anecdotes about drinking and friendship
Lemaire Lee
Guest on episode; participated in Star Wars character comparisons and historical discussion
Ken Burns
Extensively discussed for Revolutionary War documentary; praised for Civil War, Jazz, and Baseball documentaries
Louis Theroux
Mentioned for provocative documentaries including Israel-Palestine series and prison/Scientology investigations
George Washington
Referenced for emotional breakdown upon learning of Benedict Arnold's betrayal at West Point
Benedict Arnold
Discussed as Revolutionary War hero who became turncoat, selling British intelligence on West Point
Lafayette
Mentioned as important Revolutionary War figure whose presence at West Point affected Washington emotionally
Ray Romano
Praised for role in Everybody Loves Raymond and cool demeanor when visiting comedy venues
Justin Timberlake
Used as comparison for smooth, slick personality and beatboxing ability
Kanye West
Referenced in context of Gavin McInnes interview about stereotyping and controversial statements
Gavin McInnes
Discussed for interview with Kanye West about racial stereotyping and controversial framing
Sarah Palin
Mentioned nostalgically as attractive and cool during McCain 2008 campaign era
John McCain
Referenced for 2008 presidential campaign with Sarah Palin as running mate
Thomas Paine
Speculated to possibly be 'Republicus,' the pseudonymous author who proposed 'United States of America' name
Amerigo Vespucci
Discussed as possible namesake for 'America,' though etymology remains debated
Bobby Knight
Referenced for legendary on-court meltdowns and verbal tirades against reporters and players
Tony Hinchcliffe
Referenced as friend who gets drunk and performs well; sings 'We Got a Problem' song with hosts
Dan Soder
Referenced for video game meltdowns and emotional reactions during sports viewing
Quotes
"We're declaring independence. What the fuck do we call ourselves? I feel like it was early on and you called things what they were back then. You weren't going to come up with a fancy name."
Shane Gillis•Early episode
"It's a reach. You make you say a sentence and then everyone has to wait and try to figure out what you meant and then ask you and go, what, where did that come from?"
Joe DeRosa•Mid-episode
"The bad part of alcohol is just you feel like hell the next day. Sometimes. Also good PBS doc on prohibition."
Shane Gillis•Late episode
"God forbid somebody loves you."
Pope (referenced anecdote)•Referenced story
"I don't like you. Yeah. He goes, I've been drinking since 9 a.m."
Pope (referenced anecdote)•Referenced story
Full Transcript
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I go for one day. I have one healthy shit. I'm like, oh, I'm fine. Yeah. What the fuck? What the fuck was I worried about the last 30 years? I've been doing this stuff called dose. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? It's supposed to help. We'll see. Dude, it does your energy. It like jacks your energy up. What does it do? I don't know. I have it. Whatever you got to do it every day. It's a liver cleanse and. It's for guys who don't really want to stop drinking. Yeah, it's a supplement on Instagram where they go. You've talked about being a booze bag a lot. We've picked that up. Here's your liver, liver health and your algorithm. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to stop drinking. It's too fun. Yeah. Hey, I'll tell you what, I've I got my hands on a little revolutionary ward dock. Yeah. You want to know how do you think we came up with the name United States of America? No one even thinks about it, do they? Well, I just assumed it was a bunch of states that would be united. Yeah, but you still got to come up with a name when you go. We're declaring independence. What the fuck do we call ourselves? I feel like it was early on and you called things what they were back then. You weren't you weren't going to come up with a fancy name. You're going to say this is what it is where it's a fuck you to the king, the United States of America. I like that you're trying to sell that you're wrong, but I like it. I mean, I have no idea because I don't nerd out. OK, OK, Star Wars to have. But no, I never even took the time to think about it. But it's not that simple. It's not just like this. You can't just be like, we all agree. This is what we're calling it because everybody has to come together and be like, what do we what is an American anyway? You know, that's a good point, LeMair. What's a Europe shit, dude? What's in Africa? Do you're asking the hard hitting questions? I always thought it was named after Amerigo Vespucci. That's what they do. But I think that's been the bone proven false. Yeah, the Columbus Indians thing is probably false, too. Probably that he called them Indians because he thought it was in India. Yeah, I think he knows exactly where he was. There was like a term they were called that said people of God. It was like in I forget. I forget what it is. I thought I'd Spanish for you. Well, anyway, anyway, it turns out. Yeah, just some fucking guy wrote into a local paper, the Pennsylvania Post and said, we should be the United States of America. It's like an editorial. And he's he didn't write his real name. His his pseudonym was Republicus. Oh, fucking badass Republic. It's a very transformer. We all blast. Now, also, is there a bigger juice on the planet? That's the juice writing into the paper and going, we should call his country United States of America. Also, my name is Republicus. And the whole country was like, yo, United States of America is sick. I bet a USA chance started almost like the first guy was like, you. S. Republicus, you know, in the music docks, they like, they're like, hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fucking war pigs. They did that with the USA. But wait a minute. Why? But I agree with LaMere. What does America come from if it's not the American Vespucci guy? I'm not sure. I think it might be America. One of those Vespucci's will tear. What? I said, what if Republicus was a Spucci's Voltaire? What does that mean? Voltaire is like a Voltaire. He was not. Yeah. He had a fake name and then, you know, he got in trouble and people say if you have a fake name, you have a Voltaire. Oh, OK. Yeah, I didn't know that. Sorry. That's all right. I didn't mean to be smart. I mean, by what you said, like, what if Republicus is the Spucci? No, it was. So it was like two 300 years later. OK, so. OK. All right. All right. Yeah. Well, shit, man. You live in your. Now, I think they said it was a Thomas Paine or. I think they said that might have been Republicus. They don't know who Republicus was. Chetchie Pee Pee still says it's from America, Vespucci. All right. All right. But it's the feminine Latin form of America, which I kind of like America. More. Yeah, I like America. America's is good. Yeah, US on the end of a word or a name or or you like some Latin. Yeah, us Republicus Republic or like they sound like transformer. Yeah. Yeah. Or he man named Kelly Brook is Betway's casino ambassador and for all new customers, stake 20 pounds and get 150 free spins. Download the Betway casino app today. 18 plus T's and C's apply. Bet the responsible way. Gamble aware.org. Immers yourself in herbal essences, new Moroccan Argan oil, elixir infused with pure argan oil. Just one drop delivers up to 100 hours of hair nourishment with the indulgent scent of a Moroccan garden. Herbal essences, new Moroccan Argan oil, elixir, spa quality hair repair without the price tag. Try it now. Herbal essences, service, repair to smoothness, nourishment with a regimen use versus non conditioning shampoo. Yeah, I saw this little fucking shadow pig. Scarring at home where he is a little rat. Did he get a shadow pig? You can't tell he's a pig because he's always like, oh, yeah. Since the corner. Oh, shit, he's blacked out. Yeah. I guess there's no there's not like a real it's like when British persons retarded. This guy's smart. Like with our dog, he always sounds like he's blacked out. Yeah. Yeah. Just smoking cedars in the corner. Back to back. No difference. The spirit yellow. Just what he'd be doing. So you can't tell. I was sober as a bird last night. Yeah, see that's a Godini. That was a sober man. Yeah, I was sober. And how late were you out? I saw you like 30. I was just getting to the kill Tony after hang. It was like 10 15 10 30. And he was walking out with his girl. I was like, where are you guys going? And his girl went, we're going to go home. I could see the shadow pigs eyes like what he wanted to stay. Yeah, you hit him with one of these like. No, that's not true. I wanted to go home. He's like, yeah, I'm happy to be going home, man. It's good. I'm going to take a break. I was happy to go. We got fucked up. Yeah, you guys had a good time. Yeah, we had a nice time. I had a good time. I was watching an American Revolutionary War doc. Shit was tight. Don't think you understand. Well, tell me about it, man. I love this is one of my favorite things about you. And I truly do mean it. I am enamored by the fact that you truly love history. And you like, I wish I was something that was of use like that. I only love nerdy. It's not really of use for me to be like Republicus. No, but it's history. Like, like I only get it like I swear to God, dude, I'm not kidding. I'll get into like the He-Man mythology the way you'll get into Civil War. I it's like it's it's the kind of shit that's from deep mythos, really. Yeah, he man's dope. Yeah, the history is whatever. Yeah, I wish I liked history. I know. I wish I know. And it tells you why we're where we're at. But you know what I was thinking about? You know how they think like tar and feathering is kind of funny? Wait, like it's like a silly thing. Yeah, we tarred and feathered him. Huh? Yeah, it was like a brutal. No, it's horrible. Horrific. Yeah. Scolting hot tar. Like killed people. Yeah, it's like one of the worst deaths. It burned your skin off and the feathers were fusing your skin. Fucking horrific. It became a chicken. There's a there's a thank you, the man. There's a maybe. It's been in my. I was about to walk that back. I was about to be so racist. I was about to be as racist as possible. I was crazy. But no, you ever see John Adams? Yeah, yeah, great, great mini series, but they tar and feather a guy in that. And it always stuck with me. Oh, I watched. I watched the first two episodes last night and they're two hours. I don't know if I'm allowed to say it, but I got my hands on the Ken Burns Revolutionary War. It's not out yet. Oh, nice. And my my manager sent it to me at like 10. I was like, I'm watching this right now. Nice. I was watching for four hours. It's fucking great. So that's the document watching. Yeah. I feel like I'm not allowed to say it. You're not even you're not even allowed to say you've been watching it. You're spilling the beans of stuff that's in it, dude. Well, it's a historical fact. Nobody knew about Republicans. I know. Republicans is nice. That's the rule today. No one's in a while. I mean, not there's a lot of people that watch this that don't get down with Ken Burns. They should. Yeah. Ken Burns is Ken Burns. Vietnam was fucking nice. We were talking about this. I don't remember if it was you and me or not, but what was the doc was like Ken Burns is Sergeant Pepper's like, what's the doc that broke him? I think it's the jazz one because I remember my friend Scott had the box set that the sound track of that. And I just remember that Ken Burns jazz documentary was like everywhere. And I was like, that's the one I feel like made him. I think I mean, for me, it was the Civil War one. Right. Ken Burns, Civil War, Ken Burns, baseball is fucking nice. Yeah, I heard baseball was a big one. And then his brother puts out docs to like one of them did Brooklyn Bridge, which is nice. What are they the boring brothers? Me probably. Both of them sitting there in sweaters. He's looking at books, looking at fucking books. Here's come on, man, pick up some video games, play the vigors and Jack. Oh, yeah, dude. You got to make Ken Burns the Revolutionary War, the video game. I'd be all in on that. That would be nice. What is the what's his brother's name? I forget the and you also love Louis Thoreau. Louis Thoreau is a great. Yeah. Yeah, I like him. He's a little more of a provocative documentary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my favorite one he did was the was the Courtney Love one. Did you ever see his Miami when he goes into super prisons? No, it's as funny as it gets. He's just in there with black dudes that are we fucking we have to beat your ass and he's like, no, why? What if I don't want to fight? Oh, you don't have to fight. We don't fuck you up. He's like, but you don't have to do that. It's pretty great. You know the one of the stocks ever seen is his new one about the right wing? No, it's new ones about Israel Palestine. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't I haven't watched it. I heard it was pretty fucking. He goes deep. Man, the first Scientology, whatever song, the guys like threatening him and shit. It was crazy. He is. Does he interview a settler in that? Yeah, she's just like fully like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Not great. They were saying the whole time they're like, they can leave or. That's what the settlers are saying. You see that in Yahoo where he compares himself to Hitler. He can't make up something. He's dude, I swear I watched it three times. I was like, he can't be saying that. But he's like, he's like, they say, you know, step back, stepped out. And he's like, you don't just stand aside and say, here you go. You have the land. Ain't off Hitler didn't do that. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. He said that. I can't rewind it. I looked at the caption and it was like that and the other who compares himself to it all. I was like, holy shit. I think he just did that. Are you sure it was not a I because I've been tricked. They're getting real good at just maybe was a showing a speech and maybe two words. Can you guard Danny? Can you say maybe he meant what he was trying to say was the opposite. People didn't play Kate Hitler like that when he was taking all the land doesn't sound like he said that because they're it's like he is doing a lot of ground strike now. He's doing a lot of stuff that. That's what I was like. He's doing a lot of stuff. He's doing a lot of stuff. Can I say this is another Kanye was right moment. Yeah, you see the guy McGinnis interview with Kanye. No, where he goes. He goes and Connie is in the full black like ski mask could thing. Oh, you can't see his face. And Gavin goes. Now look, he's like, you know, there are statistics about black people about the crime and stuff like that. He goes, but when you meet a black person, you don't take those statistics into it. You start with a clean slate and you judge them as a person. Do you do that with Jews? It kind of goes, nope. Hey, Gavin, you're going to start to have it. He goes, this intervention is not going well. I think it was going right where Gavin wanted it to. Well, there we go. What else is going on? We're just remembering stuff we saw. I like that. Good duck to recommend. It's only 30 minutes long. It's called the quilters and it's, it's no, no, listen to me. Trust me. You sound great. Trust me. All right. It's on HBO. It's like 30 minutes long. Like to it's about a maximum security prison and there are these level five convicts, which means level five is murder. Like it's all the worst crimes and there's a quilt shop in there and they make quilts for like needy children and they're super into it. And these guys that got like murder, double murder or whatever, they're in the quilt shop and they're like, here's all their fabrics and they run it like a quilt and they get so into it and the kids send them, dude, and they make the quilts are amazing. Kids send them what? They send them pictures of like me with and it's like, thank you so much. I don't know if I love that. And they cry. Dude, that's nice. It's beautiful, dude. It's beautiful. These guys are like, this is the only way I can give back to society for what I did. It's crazy. I cried during it. Yeah, that's very nice. It's really nice. Yeah, they all give that a shot. You should. I gotta tell you, I've been watching this Mussolini show and a doc or like a script. It's a scripted show who plays the moosh. I don't know. He's some Italian guy who's made in Italy. Okay. But of course Europe is also, you know, 10 years behind us when it comes to like on the nose shit, right? Like culturally. Yeah. The last episode, he's like, I'm going to make Italy great again. And you're like, oh, so Trump's a fascist. Okay. He just butt fuck the whole show. Yeah, turn off. So I'm out. Is it only like one season is this season to I'm not sure. I think it comes out weekly. Okay. Yeah. That and I was kind of excited. I mean, they make him a bumbling idiot, which I doubt. He was based on what he got done. They do that a lot with with Mussolini apparently was kind of a putz. Okay. I mean, that's like the yeah, yeah, yeah, but you ever see him give a speech? That's good swag. Swag out the wazoo. People give Hitler a lot of credit for speeches. Check out the moose. The pauses the fucking arm crosses the fall is Mussolini the guy who plucked the chicken during a meeting. All right. I never heard that one. Really? I can't remember who but it was a story about somebody. We just got chicken on the brain. No. Second chicken talk. You got chicken on the brain. The not interracial. What is it? It is Mussolini plucking a chicken. Nice. Oh, man. It's like a metaphor or something. It's a political cartoon. Nice. Did you find anything for the? I can't find it. It's hard to bet I got a I'd got you may have to but they could also be. There's things he said a long time ago. It also might have been old. There was like one from 2015 where he kind of says what you said in a different way. Maybe that's what it was. I would imagine as a politician go out of your way to avoid saying I'm a lot like Adolf Hitler. You think? Yeah. You think I mean, there used to be a bad thing. Yeah, you should be rough. Now that thing about make Italy great again. That that kind of stupid fucking winky thing that ruined Skull Island for me. Kong Skull Island. What happened there? It takes place in the 60s and the first line taxi pulls up in front of like. I don't know some fucking the cap some some state building or something. And and John Goodman goes. There's two dudes in the back of the car and John Goodman goes my boy. We are entering the strangest decade of politics this country will ever see. And it was like right when Trump got it. I was like. Fuck off. Yeah. Like, you know, like it's just it's I hate shit like that. They hate winking letting your politics come into the King Kong movie. I'm trying to watch it. Did American King Kong? He ruined Godzilla for me because they had the running. I was sucked. Oh my God, dude. We had zero was fucking sick. Yeah. The Japanese one. Wait, that's yeah, that's for most. Yeah, yeah, that's that's classic Godzilla. I'm talking King Kong Godzilla forbidden kingdom or whatever. If you went into that thinking that was going to be good. The bag's on you. You're an adult man. The God King Kong had a mecha arm. Godzilla was running the whole world's in flames. It's crazy. Yeah. Once they got into that to that like the last straw for you. That was literally the last straw. Godzilla doesn't run, dude. When they did the like world between worlds thing. Yeah, King Kong lives in that weird other. I was like, this is idiotic. I met the kid a couple of times that directed every single one of those movies. He must be stacking coin right now. I mean, Jesus Christ, they make like $400 million at least at least. They got Chinese people must go nuts when they see those. They're five huge hits. Matt's gone. I'll be reading on behalf of Matt. Okay. Matt. Okay. Okay. A quick break from the show for a special segment called more or less football edition and it's brought to you by prize picks. Right. So Shane and I are going to be presented with three player picks and decide together whether we should go more or less each pick. Shane. So who's looking sharp and who's just like a pedestrian on the field? Yeah. Matt. This is what we're thinking prize picks this week. Let's choose more or less each of the following picks. AJ Brown more or less than 55 receiving yards. I'm going more more easy. He's been getting he's not getting a lot of touches. He's starting to complain. They're going to force the ball to him more than 55 yards receiving. I'll go less since you guys want more. Okay. Mix it up. Cam Scataboo more or less than 0.5 rushing touchdowns. You think he's going to score or not? I love the name. I'm going to say more. I like it too. He's got a bit of a Star Wars name there. Yeah. Josh Allen more or less 228 passing yards. You got to go more of the guys at gunslinger. Okay. Shane. I'm going to say I'd go less last week. I picked them and he went under. Hmm. How about that? Wow. 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Oh, I mean, everyone's right. The right gets it so wrong with what their outrage. Everybody's outraged about everything obviously, but when it's like, dude, don't lose on this one. Why are they mad about that funny? I think it's because it's because he doesn't speak any speak English from trying to watch football. And my point was last year's halftime show was barely intelligible. Maybe that was for China. Bing bop boom. Bing. You hate Kendrick. No, I don't hate Kendrick. Stop hating. Stop. We don't have to talk Kendrick. Because you're a halftime show. What? I thought they should care to do the halftime show before. Yeah. What are you mad about? I don't know. Jackson whipped her tits out on it. Yeah, that's such a rock. Yeah, that's great. Man, that was a pivotal moment in like American history, like for TV and stuff. I was considered like now be nothing. Yeah, because once she had a sticky over her nipple, she had like a shit, like a peat. It was I think it was pierced and she had this big thing like almost like a vote for me pin. Oh, covering her whole nipple. You know what I mean? But yeah, it wasn't pasty. It wasn't that crazy. It wasn't that crazy. Also, why'd they pretend it was like a when they were like it was a wardrobe malfunction? I remember when they tried to clear the it was like a pose. He like ripped it off and they both went. Yeah, it's wild the way they would just lie about shit. It's you know, and just let's see if they buy it. The wardrobe malfunction. They bought it. Yeah, they're going to buy it. That was she got like she was like in trouble for a long time. I remember that. Yeah, was that the first live TV, Titty drop? I feel like but that was a what's that called a thing on the nipple? The pasty. A pasty. Yeah. I mean, I remember Sable used to break those out. You table break out the pasties all the time. Yeah, W W F had some nips. Yeah, the cat Terry runnels. Don't give me started Jacqueline. Don't give me started. I'm going to get used to it. Yeah. Jack off in there. Trish strategy. I think that was the first ever. I think I think for it. Right. Yeah. Live TV, Tritty drop. They had to be the first one. That was a pretty big one. Yeah. I remember when my friends went nuts. Yeah, my basement. Everyone just went. They were standing on the couch. We were fired up. That's when Timberlake was the man like he was like he's still awesome, but that he was like on your mind. Me and Timberlake. Why is that just like a smooth operator slick? You about to say something mean? No, that's it. You've yeah. Yeah, genuine compliment. Yeah, you remind me of Justin Timberlake. You're both smooth operators and you're slick. And I feel like you could beat box. I can't beat box. Oh, you thought about it. I was an all right rapper. You're a good rapper. It was a decent rapper at one point. You know, I've done it in a long time. So I have to write little rhymes in my head. My God, wish I was a rapper. Give me give me some bars. I can't remember anything right now. And I honestly am trying to remember something. Okay, please. Yeah, but because that would be big for me. I think everyone would be happy. It would be very happy to hear you spit some bars. You had a bean. I know it still does. You still have a band. They have a yeah, no, yeah, so yeah, it's also one full. Yeah, our new record comes out in a couple months. Oh, sick. Yeah, yeah, it's done. Yeah. Yeah. And then we're going to we're going to run and do shows and stuff. That's fun, man. I love doing that. But yeah, the rapping not so much anymore. Young man's game. It's a young man's game. Black man's game. It's it's it's a different level of commitment. Yeah. Rap. Rap is like being a comic. It's like you have to be a rapper. You know what I mean? Like you have to it's it's an everyday thing. It's not, you know, not to say that being in a band isn't, but it's a little more it's a little more lax for whatever reason. But but there's something about rapping because it's a solo. It's a solo act. It's that's why I said it's like being a comic. It's like constantly. Yeah, it's a solo. What do you got in the battle? You know what I mean? Have you ever rap battles? Yeah, I used to do it all the time. That must have been so gay. Where's that? Where can I get that footage? Holy shit. We used to freestyle. We used to freestyle battles when I was in college at parties and shit. People don't you have any regrets? No, I would regret that so much. Why? I was pretty good at it. Party. That's pretty good at it. No, people liked it. Like the party we got got chicks from doing it and stuff. It was, you know, they saw that Timberlake. They saw that Timberlake. You smooth up right? What's this Timberlake? Timberlake the moose. You can see that. That's my rap. No, you can't. Timberlake the moose. That's actually a great nickname. Timberlake the moose. The, uh, should we talk about our new nicknames? I mean, you can try. There it is. Tried to bait me with my cuz Joe. All right. First off, you're calling me the. You have to explain why. But dude, the what? But dude, it's literally laid up like hut. I don't. I don't. Hold on, dude. That's a hut. I don't do his bidding. I said, Joe, I said, Joe looked exactly like Salacious Crumb. From Star Wars. And if you look at Salacious Crumb, especially Salacious Crumb with his legs crossed sitting. And that was Salacious Crumb. And I said, yeah. And I said, Shane's job with the hut. And then, and then he went low. It's not, it's not, it's not a body joke. I'm just saying you're the hut dude. Like, right. Look at crumb in the hut. Tell me it's not me and Shane hanging out at a bar. I'll happily sit at this man's legs and drink. As the crumb dude. She's is Dorosa. Like, dude, you know what? Salacious underworld creature. This is just. I didn't know yet a name either. I was just like, dude, you look like fucking job. His friend and he was like, he knows Star Wars. He was like, oh, Salacious. As soon as you said it, I was. Bro. You gotta get that. That's nice. All right. I'll give you that. That's a good one. Did you love just sitting up there? I'll take hot playing with everybody. So much to the room. Tony is obviously C3BO. It's not even close. Tony might be laying. Beezer's been. I might be laying the bikini. These are Beezer's. Big fortuna. A hundred percent Beezer's big fortuna. A hundred thousand percent. Who's a Boba? Which one's that? He's the he's the one who gave Anakin. It's got to be all Jabba's palace though. Okay. Okay. Okay. Everybody else from there out. Everybody else is too cool. Yeah, it's tough not to. You can't give someone a cool. Yeah. Nobody gets to be like Boba Fett. Yeah, it's too cool. Yeah. Who's the rain core? Is that in Jabba's? You know, the Marys? The Warthog. The Warthog guard. No, no, the Marys. The Pig guard. No, no, no. Blue dude that plays the keyboard. That's a cool one though. No, it's not. Look up the blue. I think. Yeah, that's cool. But look at the. Can you do me a kindness and look up the. Pig guard. The Pig guard at Jabba's palace. It's got a bit of a bit of a maze in there, but that that guards a little pushy. I don't think La Mer's very pushy. No, that's what I'm saying. He's the keyboard player. Keyboard player is very close, but the Pig guard. Yeah. Let me take a look at that guard. Can't seem to be in place. Good music. That's. Those have me easy. You're all over it. Who is it? I mean, I thought I liked the keyboard. I'll tell you, I think the guard is I think I think that's O'Connor. You know, you're kind of where I want to shove it. Dude against the wall. You know, Tommy is I know it's it's on Tatooine though. It's a fucking mother's name. The guy's like, I don't like you. That's Tommy. He's just gonna go. I'm cut off. I'm right. That's okay. I'm. Drunk ass. You're like, fuck you, dude. Did you say I don't like you? My friend doesn't like you. I got the death toll on 38 systems. Yeah. The or the Nesa top one. Yeah. So we land though. Is Java? Could it be a fucking Java? Oh, no, he's an Ewok, bro. Now it's got to be Tatooine. We got to keep it. Yeah, it's fucking Java. Java. All right, Tony. What are you looking at? Javas. It kind of looks like an Ewok a little. All right. Fuck it. Yeah. That's me. My bad. My bad. Nate's warwick. The Ewok. Wicked. I mean, wicked. Ewok. Yeah. Fuck it, dude. We'll fly you to the job as palace. Who's uh, Tony's three P. Oh, definitely. Who's later than. Can't give a hot babe. No. Let's give it to a dude. No, dude. Lay is fucking Lay is a Kyla. Is a bad mouth chick. Chick with a bad attitude. I hear you. You excited for red October? What's red October? Is this a video game? Let's go. No, Phils, dude. Fighting Phils. Fighting Phils. Well, fill me in. You know, I don't watch sports. We got a buy, which could be a problem. The playoffs start. Oh, they're going to playoffs? Yeah. I'll go to those games. Yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to go Monday. Jesus, it's October. I'm like, I'm like thinking this is like months away. No, it's September. You almost have it. It is October next week. No, it's October tomorrow. Yeah, I guess tomorrow. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Is that this is a crazy podcast? We're just just this is a regular conversation. Yeah. Do you want to do you want to get on to a specific time? No, I don't give a fuck at all. I feel like this is good. I like the Star Wars. I love Star Wars. I've been watching everybody loves Raymond. Okay. It shows good, dude. Dude, I started watching it recently too. Yeah. Air tight. Yeah. It's very tight. And every episode I'm like, it was a beat. Cool is Ray Romano. He's awesome. He's like the coolest. Yeah. When he whenever he comes to the cellar, it's like, God damn. Yeah. It's just a fucking cool. Yeah. He's sitting there. He's watching sports. He's like, who you got on this? You got the over the under or the like that's awesome. That's awesome. I don't do they got better looking in his like 60s. I never thought of that. Yeah. He's like, I didn't sexualize him when I saw. He's a I sexualized everybody. That's why you're JT. Dude. That's why you got that Timberlake. I'm sorry. I'm the moose. Timberlake the moose. You're a slay. She's chrome. The chrome left. Oh, the fucking bio horrendous chrome. Dude, the bio horrendous slay. She's chrome. Yeah, but that's nobody has the juice like United States of America. No, no, it's it's a slay. She's chrome. Obviously that's good juice. Right. Vile horrendous great juice. Yeah. No one's just like, I'm going to write this down and send it to the paper and name the country. I mean, it's it is it is fucking wild. I want to find out. I'd like to find out who this Republic is guy is. I think it is Thomas Payne. It's just pure speculation because it was just a humble man. Dude, that's why he's Republicans. He's going, I don't need any glory for this. This is for the fucking Republic. Yeah. But how do you get into paper? Oh, because Thomas Payne. What other things from the dock can you reveal? It's it's just standard. It's nothing to get into Benedict Arnold, which is exciting because he was kind of the man. Okay. Until he wasn't okay, but he was he was like a little climber though. He was good at his job, but he was a climber. Okay. So he get any time he got passed over, he would start bitching and yeah. Okay. But it was stuff I kind of knew already like he was he was the hero at Ticonderoga. Okay. So he people don't know like pencil. Yes. He he was like a war hero. He was like a big deal before he swiped before he switched sides. What was his official turncoat moment? I'm not sure. I think he sold or gave British intel on how to get past West Point. The fort. I think he gave the fort up. I could be wrong. Wow. I haven't got that far, but I remember in a I read the book Lafayette, who was the man too. He was like that was kind of the only time he ever saw George Washington like breakdown because Washington like like to this guy. Wow. And when he got he got to West Point and they were like Arnold's gone. Wow. It's just like, oh, he started like sobbing. He was like, no. Well, boy. Like that. That's the story I took from it. Jebra Ead at that restaurant in New York where Washington took his men before the battle of Valley Forge. No, it's in Fideye. You know that you know that area of Fideye where it's like the Cobblestone Street and there's all the bars. It's right down there. That's the house. Yeah. Yeah. And he took his isn't that it's so wild like it. Yeah, they were like they were treating it like they were like about to shoot a movie or something like it was big dinner. They all get cocked up and then they're like, all right, we got to go fight tomorrow. Yeah, it's awesome. It's it was like, yeah, this weird celebration. They were drinking back. Yeah. Yeah. He made sure his boys all got whiskey and rum. Yeah, it's rum and then everybody got a cup of their rations where you got a couple whiskey every day, every soldier. Wow. And then he was like, if the rations were low, we'll rum at first and then we'll switch to whiskey if we run out of rum. Wow. Boys were a little. They were loose. It was for freedom. Yeah. A couple of Bruce keys before you go shoot some red coats. Yeah, you have to be. Also, you know, you know, five me out. There's the part where so obviously the the revolution starts in Massachusetts and then they're trying to rally the rest of the colonies to be like help us out. And then so like Virginia, that's why they get Washington because he was the he was a Virginian. So they want to bring the whole all the colonies in. But then when Pennsylvania and like South Carolina and North Carolina start joining in and then it's just such a like it was it was a true melting pot. You know what I mean? But it's talking about how like just frontiersmen from Pennsylvania started rolling in and hanging out with all these New England posties. Right. It's like that's pretty sick. Yeah. And they were like, these guys are a problem. They were like, like the British were like, oh, fuck, they got the retarded guys. It was always a problem. P.A. was a problem. Could P.A. anybody that was like out Appalachia was where the country stopped. Okay. Like past that was like native land and there were people out there fighting. So these guys had been fighting for 40 years. See, this is the shit. I wish I wish they're just. It's an retain. I this is it's impressive to me that you have trappers and shit like survivalists. So they knew how to live on the land like with no food and shit. Right. So all of a sudden you got all these like freaks coming out of the woods. You just some fucking queer from fucking London. I have a real serious question from watching all that stuff and whatever. Do you feel like you have like some working knowledge of survival skills? Oh my God. No, if you got trapped in the woods, I struggle with scrambled eggs. I'll tell you got to get a coffee maker. Somebody was like if somebody was like make me pancakes, I'd be like, who you could get me instant pancake mix and everything that I need and I'd be like, this is gonna be tough. Yeah. Yeah. I have no survival skills. Pancakes are tough. I could teach you how tough, but they're tough. You know the trick to flipping a pancake? What is it? When the top part is all bubbled, when you see like all the little holes in it, that's when you know it's ready to keep that in mind. Yeah, but pancakes are tough. You know, I like a little raw pancake. Dude, a little cakey pancake. I don't mind a little batter in there. That's gross. I know it's gross. I'm not afraid to admit that. That's really gross. Shut the fuck up. That's good shit. Thanks man. I think you get salmonella like that. I don't give a fuck about salmonella. Flour? I'll never get salmonella. The 22. I will never get salmonella. Yeah. I'm on Revolutionary War fucking diet. They glass of whiskey, eat a couple fucking lemons. Oh my God. Whatever I can get my hands on. I was talking to McCann, Jim McCann about the road and just hating the road. And it was funny. He I talked to him about it. Yeah. I don't know how you've been doing it like this. I was like, yeah, he goes. He goes, you take Shane. He's got his routine. He gets up. He has his 20 beers. He does the show. How you do it, dude? Yeah. Starblezies. Look at this fucking thing that LaMaire got. Of course. Thanks, Gardene. It's gonna be good, dude. You can take it. I mean, if you want, you can swing it. Nice immunity defense drink. Don't hurt. It doesn't hurt. Fixing the guts. Look at this abomination. This is good. Look at that dude. This is good stuff. He doesn't drink coffee. He drinks you give him lemonade and sugar. He has more of those every morning. What? And then he runs around. And then he runs around. It's coconut milk. It's strawberry milk. He gets the zoomies after that. Strawberry coconut milk. I have to yell at him to get off the couch. You're not supposed to be up there, but that's all right. Dude, I miss Sarah Palin. Matt's way you can lay on the couch. Dude, I miss Sarah Palin. She was fucking cool. I'm sure. Yeah, she was cool as hell. She's still hot. Yeah. Yeah. She's just older now, you know? Yeah, I like that shit. Yeah, I would. Respectfully. Yeah. Yeah. Very much respectfully. Yeah. Yeah, she was banging, dude. Yeah. Oh, those McCain years. Yeah, she was so hot. Bangin, dude. Yeah, she kind of blew it, right? No, by talking. Yeah, she fucking up real bad. She kind of blew it a little. Crazy. The Republicans were like, we need a female vice president. Dude, by the end of that, by the end of that election, McCain was like. Like he was just like, you could you could see. He was at fucking JT Real Muto in that. Yeah. You see that when that fat pitcher runs out of the bullpen? No. It's fucking a crowd of one. Then the catcher for Philly's season. So it's big. He's not that fat. He's like a chubby guy come sprinting out of the bullpen. And then the camera cussed the catcher who's staying there and he just goes. Who? The guys gas. He's out of breath at the mound. Can't catch his breath. Gives up a homer and they fucking get him off the field. Dude, what's the clip? But anyway, we're the guys are in the where the guys are in the pen. And they're yelling at the Empire's call and the coach just going, he's a cunt. I never saw I like it. I like it. He's doing simple. Yeah. He's a cunt. He's screaming it, dude. It's from like the 80s, early 90s. I'm like something like a TV camera caught that. Yeah. Like people that have iPhones. There was some camera recording it. It was soaked to baseball. When they spazzed, it's the best. Oh, who is it? Is it Tommy Lassotto with the best whatever? We was like, my ass is in the jackpot. If I don't get you out of here, Tommy, Tommy, you know my ass is in the jackpot right now. Wait, I thought you were going to talk about the radio interview. Which was a lot of one. Ah, where they're like, they said you might it's the sort of it's after a game, dude. It's on AM radio. So it's going out live. They're interviewing him after a game. Clearly they must have lost. He's in a mood and they go, we heard you're going to trade so and so for Bobby back, Levar or something. He goes, he goes, let me tell you something about that. Cocksucker Bobby Baklava couldn't hit fucking water. If you found out of a fucking boat, you know, I'm going to bring you on my fucking out of your fucking mind. Like, dude, he just loses it. Lose baseball spazes are not there. The best they lose their mind more than football. The best spaz is baseball and then Bobby Knight basketball spaz. Bobby basketball tossing the chair across the court. Choking a player white guy. It's basically white boy spaz. True white boy rage spaz. Did you ever see the Jim Belushi when he was on SNL? Who was a cast member? It's from the 80s when he's doing the chess coach, but he's doing it like Bobby Knight. Cheshire and he's kicking the chair. He's like, come on. You call that a work to ball? Yeah, it's really funny. Yeah, Bobby was good. I think he choked a player in a practice piece. Which is great. You can't choke players anymore, dude. I didn't even show players back then. They were really upset about it. Yeah. The Bobby Knight's things, the things where he's in the press because he hates reporters so much. There's one where a lady asked him a question. He goes, well, let me tell you something. And I love speaking to a person whose job is one step below prostitution. Yeah, that's nice. It's fire at these people. That's nice. Yeah, it's the best. I think, yeah, baseball has number one spaz. Yeah, why is that? It's such a soothing game. And it's like, they're out on the mound. Out of nowhere, a guy's fucking kicking dirt at somebody. Tommy, my ass is in a jackpot. You know, I gotta fucking do this. Chest to chest every time they on fire. Mass grab is always great. Fucking insane. It's out of nowhere. I guess you're out there for fucking 180 games. You've been gone from home for fucking six months. It's August. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to double header in Cincinnati. Yeah. You're sweating your ass off. Some arms just fucking you. I got to be honest. I don't know that I've ever seen a football spaz. There's been some. They've happened. I'm sure there's been some good ones. There's a you get a good spaz when the when the reporter interviews the coach right before halftime. You know, you know how they do that. Yeah, like when the team's head of the locker room that what what different what changes do you have to make on offense to get this thing going? The guys just like the players are out there trying their fucking orders and the coaches are fucking it up. Just keeps running. I go shit. This is an ad by better help. Oh, yeah, the help with the better. Yes, October isn't just for sweet treats and scares. I like this is good writing. It's also a good time to appreciate therapists who have helped you and a loved one because if you don't know already October 10th is World Mental Health Day. Mm hmm. Did you know that? I did not. All right. If you feel comfortable, give a huge thanks to a current or past therapists. How did they help you? Maybe set you in a new direction until you're going to celebrate small wins or provide a safe space for you to cry and unload. I found a couple safe spaces to unload. One time I thought I had a safe space to unload. 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I'm going to do Baltimore, Vegas, San Francisco, Sacramento, Tucson, Phoenix, Boise, Portland, and then Madison Square. Yeah, and. Fuck you, Nate. Let's get back to the show. Oh, man. That's awesome. I don't watch sports at all, but I will frequently look up sports spas sports meltdown like there. It nothing like a good. Oh, wait, we talked about this last time. Not only a good meltdown on camera. Oh, yeah. It's not comedy ones last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you ever watch like Super Smash Brothers like professional players meltdowns? I mean, a gamer meltdowns must be number one. It's crazy. Yeah. They go nuts. Like one get. No, that was a. Yeah, those are shooters, bro. Yeah. Those are a couple of pills away from pulling a trigger on someone. Like I need this. Yeah. 12 year old kids smashing a. So it's over. Hit the fucking meltdown on you. Did that's how we started talking about this last time. Literally my favorite. It's you. You pulled out. I started trying to tell you. I don't like bringing up. I don't like bringing it up because Danny. I mean, I bring it up constantly, but. Daddy, we love you. But yeah, Dan's the best. I got Dan so mad when we're they were playing and see you didn't understand the you didn't understand the context. I know we just got the game. Me it's me and him. It's our favorite thing. Like I used to go to his house and we played together. We had a dynasty. I ran offense. He ran defense. We it was it was a glorious time. And then the game reboots and we get it back for the first time in 10 years. So he comes to Philly to play it with me. I beat him. You guys did like a gig. Like it was like, yeah, yeah. And it was like, uh, I beat him the first couple. I was just killing him. And then the one game he was winning the salacious my minion comes in and starts doing my bidding. Just sat on the couch next to me. It was like, yeah, Dan. I was like, yeah, of course, your guys can fucking you guys are holding on to every block. My guys can't block for sure. And you were like, yeah, it does seem like the guys on dance team are better at blocking. It's like, shut the fuck up. Yeah. And then he blew a 14 or 17 point lead and missed an extra point and lost. Yeah. Just bad. And I said something. He went like this. He went to Rosa. He's a number one video game. Spazz. Yeah. He punches the table. Spazz. It's through. Shit. Did I remember we were watching the Niners and the Eagles play this is so good at Jay's house. No, this isn't the. Well, that one's hilarious. Yeah. It's not the one where he texted me and said, if I was in there with you right now, I'd punch you in the face. Dude, you don't understand sports. The Niners are losing in the NFC championship to the Eagles and this cocksuckers in the group text like, yeah, the Niners look like shit. It was when the Niners start the fight on the field. And I go, I go, I remember when this was a game, a bunch of bums out on this field today. It was like, if I was in the room with you, I'd punch you in the face. You're a little girl. Couldn't agree more with Dan. But if no game was losing a game and one of my friends that doesn't watch sports was like, they suck their assholes. Oh, Jay was cracking up because it was. Yeah. It was his team. Yeah. And now one time we were at, we were, the three of us were watching as me, Jay and Dix Soder at Jay's house in New York and the Niners were losing and Dan was all like, okay, okay, man. Okay. Okay. Oh, we got to get it back. We got to run up the field. You know, like, I go, it's not going to happen, Dan. Oh, they're not good enough. You're the crown. You're the slay. That would fucking kill me. Yeah. I can tell I would get dark red face immediately. If you said that I would feel my cheeks get red and I'd be like, I don't care. I'd give it about five seconds. I go, dude, shut the fuck up. I get listen, I swear to God, that's how I get when somebody says like, you know, if somebody's like, I remember that man at Bill because, because Burr said the Empire strikes back and Star Wars don't hold up his movies. And I got as mad as you're talking about that. And I was like, you know what the fuck you're talking about, dude? You know, you think, oh, you fucking saw to shut the fuck up, dude. You know, I like literally get that. Which ones are Empire strike back? Is that the second one? Second, when Han gets frozen on hot, that's tough. That's tough. That's a good one. Yeah. Empire. Well, you're only number one. It ended. It's the best one. Almost inarguably number one. I think it's down to best one. And I might have been better because what they do is just like a plate to the sequel. Wait, what happened at the end of the second Star Wars? It just plays to the sequel. What do you mean plays to the sequel? Like it just ends. It's like a cliffhanger. Yeah, yeah. That's awesome though. That's gay. Dude, I saw that movie in the theater as a kid. That was torturous, dude. That's 75. No, it came out in 80. And then I think we saw like a read, you know, when I was like five, I think. Yeah. But I was old enough to understand because I watched Star Wars on TV and like, dude, it like that cliffhanger, it was, it was torturous. I was like, Lord of the Rings got me. I saw the first one. They just walked the whole time and it fucking ended. I was like, yeah, there's three hours. So when the next one's in fucking three years, dude, I never read the books. Yeah. I knew I read the Hobbit, but I never read the Lord of the Rings was. I thought the first book they get to Mordor and they end it. And then the second movie was a different story. And I was like, wait, what the fuck? Like that realization of there's two more movies of them going to Mordor. And I was, I was, I don't know if I got this. It's kind of how I felt about Dune one. I wasn't for me. Dune ended. And I was like, oh, you killed like one guy. Dune's all right, though. Dune two picks up. I, I didn't like the first one. I wasn't feeling the first one. Are you excited to see a new Leonardo movie? It looks pretty good. The Libs are loving it. So I'm sure you're going to fucking jack off to it. I was really excited about it and I hope it's good. But so far everyone that has like been like posting about it or like liked about it has been. I agree. A diehard Lib. I agree that it's, it's the we'll see what it is when it gets raw rod by a certain. Yeah. Percentage. That's how that's how movies get ruined. Yeah, it's like, yeah. That's why I went and saw a black panther. And I was like, this fucking blows, dude. It was just jacking off to it. It's black James Bond. What is black Panther? Black James Bond. The whole time. No, it's not. How the fuck is a James Bond? He's in it. He's goes to queue his sister. He gets all the tech and then he goes solve the mysteries. All right. I never thought of it like that. Yeah. It's just because it's because you didn't think it's more like black Batman. No, Batman stinks. What the fuck are you talking about? That man fucking sucks, dude. What are you talking about? Man, I'm a Superman man. Superman rules. That's one of the worst that you guys love Superman. No, Batman's the king. What are you talking about? I didn't say that. He said that Batman ruin society. Batman sucks. Superman. We need more Superman. Wait, what do you mean Batman ruin society? Dude, as soon as Batman begins came out, everybody started being all like dark and anti fucking moral. They're like, I'm going to do what I need to do to get where I need to be, but there's nothing. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about morality, brother. You think Batman begins ruin society? Batman begins started like a morality. Culturally. How I don't know, dude, something about 2005 and Batman doesn't Batman isn't caring. He doesn't care. He's he started the billionaire worship culture. Actually a lot. Batman. Batman doesn't give a fuck. Oh, he sacrifices himself. That means he doesn't sacrifice. Most he cares the most Batman selfish Batman selfish and he's a narcissist. Not outstanding for everyone flying going on Superman. No, dude, he keeps Superman doesn't fly. Superman's among the people. He lives with the people. He doesn't fly. Superman. I'm sorry. Yeah. Superman isn't flying around wheelie-nilly. He's flying through buildings like 9 11 every day. He's not flying through buildings. So many 9 11 because real Superman doesn't fly through buildings. That's just that's just that's just I just watched the the Pete Holmes did Batman fires the Justice League. There's a funny they are the Superman one where he goes, let's have a toast. He fills out these glasses and they're green. He's one of them be kryptonite ice cubes. Would they be bad? And he goes, no, it's Asian green tea. He's like, why don't you take a sip? It's so bad. It's a funny. They're really funny. The the mayor, I you're you're I don't know what you're talking about right now. That is the most selfless man on earth. He he he doesn't live a playboy billionaire. Why he doesn't enjoy his life because he's there for Gotham. He's given himself to the city's Gotham, dude. I don't think so. The end of the third one. He almost kills himself to save the entire city. The city will be better without Batman. All the reason that villains exist is because of Batman. I never realized by the way, you guys know Dark Knight Returns arises. I mean, yeah, I remember when I first saw it, everybody said when he when Alfred sees him in the restaurant at the end in Italy, the memory of this fantasy where I see you. Yeah, I remember when I saw the movie, everybody was like, so wait, does Alfred really see him or is that just like he hopes that he will one day? And I was always like, well, I guess it's up for interpretation. But then I watched it again recently and I never caught the part where at the very end Morgan Freeman goes, the auto pilot doesn't work on this. And they go, yes, it does. It was fixed by Bruce Wayne. And I was like, oh, he autopiloted the ship and got out. Yeah, I never caught that. I never caught that part. You should see Morgan Freeman's Twitter. Why? What's on it? It's just nuts. Why? What's your name? There's just somebody named Morgan J. Freeman that just is like ultra liberal for like two years. I thought it was Morgan Freeman. I was like, it's got some fucking ass. It's like, fuck Morgan Freeman. What's he saying? Just pretend it's not Morgan Freeman. Yeah, it's just a guy's name is Morgan. Okay, but it's not like he's not faking. I was like, what the fuck is Morgan Freeman talking about? Did you read the Diver look on the James Woods Twitter? Yeah, I'll peep some James. He goes hard. They'll be like, yeah, I guess cops are all bad. You fat pig. Sharp. He goes hard. There it is. James was fired up. Jesus Christ, man. There are Batman's, dude. James Woods. We need somebody. He's the fucking Cape Crusader. We need him in the shadows. Man, but you know what? Maybe I am racist. Yes, dude. I wasn't going to say it. Jesus Christ, man. I'm not for it. Did you like the new Superman movie? Yeah. It was fun. It was nice. Superman was Superman. It gets beat up at every scene because here's the thing. He doesn't know who's in the suit. Superman has to temper his power. Everybody had not in the suit. The lizard beats him up. The fucking dog saves him like eight times. Yeah, he got beat up by a fucking lizard. He got beat up. No, no, it's a giant like Godzilla thing. He gets a desperate by a lizard. He gets knocked around. He kills that thing. A little Superman gets knocked around, but he is. He doesn't even kill that thing without exploding it. He knocks it unconscious. No, they look good. It's Arkansas. No name. Look, sorry. No name. Fucked up Arkansas so bad they destroyed the program. Everyone got fired. Really? Yeah. No name like crazy on nice. Yeah. Hey, how was that show? With Zach? It was a it was not ideal for stand up, but it was a dream come true. It's kind of the probably the coolest thing I've ever done. How many people? It's probably like 85,000. Jesus Christ. Not ideal for stand up. But what is the laugh sound like in an environment like that? Well, I didn't run into too many laughs. A lot of families, people that were very confused. Who the fuck is this guy? When's he going to start playing whatever instrument he's supposed to play? He's been talking around talking for 30 minutes. He's talking about a Down syndrome coffee shop. Down syndrome and jacking off. What the fuck? That's so fucking funny, man. Yeah. Shout out to them for letting me do that. The university. So I didn't know what I was going to say, but it was I'm sure they got some letters since then and I haven't they haven't said anything to me. So that's nice. But it was more hit you. So you feel it was more his crowd than your crowd. It was. I had a lot of people there for sure. Good. I had a lot like a lot of people were really it was it was cool. Good. It was cool, but there were definitely people there that had no idea who I was and did not see the billing or did see the billing. I'm like, this must be a country singer that I've never heard of. I'm just like, your name does sound like a country. So he's just. Yeah, he's just talking for the first 10 will pick up something. He's probably really good. This guy's funny for a musician. Yeah. The year you you have a country singer's name. Shane Gillis sounds like a country singer. I think you can do that with any name. Joe DeRosa doesn't sound like Ponderosa. Sounds exactly like a Western. Hey, folks, I'm Joe DeRosa. Doesn't have the same ring. You got a country. That's what you need to get in the country instead of hip hop. Have you thought of the bars yet? Because I'm going to need those before the end of this. Desperately. Sometimes I would write lyrics. But you my head for rappers. I was a fan of. All right, give me an example. So like I wrote a two short lyric in my head once. I wanted to I was with her two short ago. Because the one thing I learned about being a Mac treat a girl bad to dumb bitch comes back. Those are my two short lyrics that I wrote. It's pretty good. Yeah. You can hear two short saying it couldn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's nothing to be ashamed of there. Yeah. Nate's fucking feeling it. Not not a bad way, but it was way better than I thought it was going to be. It's fine. Yeah, it was definitely not like great, but it was also to that's to sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought I was real bad. I thought you're possessed by to show for a second. Yeah. I actually felt like my two-short impression wasn't that bad for a first attempt. Now it's good. I mean, you've been thinking about it for 30 years. Just bouncing around there. You finally let it out. You can move on about 30. Do you have another one? Keep you like a nozz. Sometimes I write little wraps in my head about comedians. I hate them like whoa, that would be a rap song about comedians. Not looking like an idiot. It's no way to do it. I look like an idiot. Absolutely. These ones, whatever. Yeah. Just come out. Just rip everybody crack. Amigo would bury you. You did. You can't step in his lane. Cracks. Crack goes hard. We've sat in it too. Crack goes real hard. Saguels good too. Saguels is very good. Yeah. Saguels sounds like a rapper you would like. Saguels sounds very good. And it's serious rap. It's all funny. Yeah. Yeah, he's good. He's good. You ever think of any good raps? No, I'm not a rapper. That's my trait though. That's out of stand up. What would you do creatively to express your inner darkness? Probably be in a car shop. Car shop. Playing UU or something. Card shop. Yeah. Playing video games in an arcade. No, no, I meant creatively. Oh, card shop. What? It's a card shop. You mean like a place to sell Pokemon? I thought you were making a song. Ramirez, if you weren't so laid back, I would think you were on coke right now. Shit you're talking about. It's insane. Yeah, this is like bad. It begins. Rowing society. I wouldn't work in a car shop. I stand on that. That's a good thing. Maybe America of a speach. He was Voltaire. Dude, that was good. Dude, that was good. It's a reach. You make you say a sentence and then everyone has to wait and try to figure out what you meant and then ask you and go, what, where did that come from? What did you mean by that? I just tapped into my smartness. Just tapped into my smartness. You're a fucking child. I don't mean to be that mean. Christ. Just having fun. We are having fun and you're you're you're a dear friend. Dude, the Star Wars trilogy, the second one, episode one, two and three better set of movies in the first four, five, six. I'll stand on that. You think the prequels are better than the original like as a set of movies like altogether. Yeah, dude. I mean, I like the prequels, but now as soon as Palpatine goes, execute order 66, it makes all the other movies worth it. Well, no, that sith is I love Synth. Yeah, it's awesome. Synth is in my top three, but but I never gave Clone Wars a real chance. Attack of the Clones. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, attack of the clones. Attack of the Clones is. It's really cool at times, but he he he went so hog wild with the CGI. CGI is nuts in it. It's a lot. Like that droid factory sequence, it's a little too much, but but hey, the whole end, like once they get to that arena and like like Padme and Obi-Wan and Anakin have to fight those beasts and then the Jedi come and like it's the battle and then like and then they fight Dooku and Yoda comes out like, oh, that shit's awesome, man. All that shit's awesome. And then Sidious shows up at the very end. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. But Sith rips. Don't kill me, Vader. Yeah, that's all good stuff. Sith fucking rips. And then Force Awakens rips and then they suck after that. Yeah, obviously many had a new. Force Force Awakens gave me real hope. Me too. A new hope. Yeah, me too. I thought this is it. And then the Liberals struck back. Man, the Liberals struck back. They said, you can't have Star Wars. You can take anything you want, but don't take Star Wars. Yeah, but the Liberals got their greedy paws on my Star Wars. Disney snatched it back. Disney's Liberal Star Wars. They ruined it. They were like the Acolyte is going to change everything. We believe in the show more than anything. We put the most money into it. Dude, it got trashed. They pulled all the Acolyte merch out of the store. They were just like. So was the Acolyte. It was the one where there was like all the chick jedis. And it's for the boys. The Star Wars is for the boys. Here's the thing. Make it all girl Jedi show. Just make it a good make it awesome where you're like, this is fucking great. They didn't do it sucked. It sucked. Don't start. They did that whole lesbian planet. Hey, doing the pot right now here. You're on. My ears must have been burning. But I know it's good so far. It's me, LaMare and DeRosa. We're kind of just talking about stuff we saw. Last star wars. Last Star Wars talk. Who's there? It's MacCuskey. Oh, nice. DeRosa is in your chair right now. He says it's his chair now. Bro, I am became thrown to him immediately. MacCuskey, I was confused when Shane texted me. I thought he was saying you needed a partner. And I was like, okay, where are we recording then? He's like my house. I was like, okay, where are you going to be? He's like my house. I was like, see, I don't know. I'm working with these types of stories is what I've been working with. I mean, it's taught. I'm trying, dude. I'm trying. You would have been pumped. I had some history stuff early. They walked all over it with that. True. They went straight to Batman versus Superman Star Wars. Not true. We're going to talk about their favorite toys coming up here in a second. But my figurine collectors. Matt, he, you know, he kept saying. He kept going. I don't even know why I have man here. Yeah, these kids. Yeah. Yeah, Arab and black autism are uniting. Man, he keeps saying he keeps saying the cusker who I don't know why bother doing this with him. He's starting a lot of shit. Where are you at, Matt? I'm in New York. I just got a little podcast world tour. Yeah, it's coming out. I'm very excited for October 7th. Me too, man. Thank you. All of our plans are going to come together. Oh, yeah. When he comes out on October 7th. Yeah, Matt. That special comes out October 7th. Holy shit. It's actually, I mean, it's at least, yeah, it's memorable. Yeah, it's easy. Exactly. You're not going to forget. Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember that saying that's that's when that comes out. Perfect. Yeah. Uh, I just saw the trailer. He posted it looks wonderful. I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to see you. Dude, I can't wait to see you either. All right. I miss you. I love you. Love you guys. Listen, bro. Bye, Matt. I said, I love you. He said, I love you guys. Interesting. Uh, I felt jealous. I felt jealous. I don't know that I have gotten in and I love you from you before. You and me say I love you every fucking night. But that was that was a very nice sign off and I kind of want to change our dynamic. I want to take some of the you're going to have to you're going to have to make some big changes. I want to take you. You've had this question with me before you go. How come you don't talk to Matt or Soder like that? No, no, no, no, no, that's not rotten pigs. That's all the time. That's all I'm saying. You know, you don't talk shit to them like you do to me. Yes, because they don't talk shit to me. Yeah, I know. Like you do to me. Well, I don't want war. I've seen war. But if you want war, so help me God somebody else will be raising your whole fucking children. Oh, God, you cut off my nice thing. I was going to say what and I was going to be nice. It was yes, it was. It was going to be nice. I was going to say I want to start removing some of the acidity from the relationship and start to move towards a more caring, a more endearing, more loving dynamic. Yeah, what are your proposals? What changes are you going to make? What are you offering me other than let's sounds like you're coming to the table going Shane, you need to make some. No, no, no, let's be honest. We both have some heavy lifting to do, but I'll I'll start. Okay. I'll start. Here's how we can start. Okay. Next time we hang out. Yeah. Neither of us criticized the other one. Okay. Until the other one. Does it? It's a ceasefire and I'm going to go see you started it. All right. No, ceasefire, ceasefire, but if you're doing something slimy or gay, I do get to say that that's slimy and gay, but hold on a second. Here's the problem. You think everything's slimy and gay. That's not true. Call out. Yes, you do. You call out. No, so much shit. Nate, I don't do that to you. You don't, you don't call me slimy and gay. No, I call you zesty, but that's a fun joke. You call me slimy and gay. Why are you gay? You are slimy. Why are you? Wait, I don't think so. If I don't, you don't really do too many, you don't really do too many things that I would be like, stop doing that. You don't mean it from the heart. I like when you, I like when you goof off. You hit me with a, I can't believe you're doing this one. I'm having fun, but it's because you know, it's going to put me in my head. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, like if you were, and we can delete this part if we need to. Okay. If I saw you sitting at the bar being like talking to a girl being like, oh, that's cool body. Aren't you have look at this, this piece right here. I got this. Ba, ba, ba. If I'm in the bar and I see you doing that, I'm going to slime you out. Yeah. But see, you shouldn't do that. You got to let your, you got to let your friends work in the way they work. I don't like to see him work that way. No, no, no, no. Let's see if it works. Let a man work. Let him go. My techniques work and you have stepped on my techniques at times. Step on your techniques. Oh my God. It's so fun. The only times I've been talking to a chicken at a bar and you're, you're visibly mocking me from across the room. Like visibly. I look. I'm all for one of the bros getting some plus. But you got to do it the right way. I know how to do it. You got to know how to. Yeah. All right. I know how to talk. I know how to talk. I don't like the. I do. You do. You're very good at that's why you're very. That's why you remind me of Timberlake. You remind me of the moose. Dude. Timberlake the moose. You remind me of Timberlake the moose. Shut up, Mussolini. Justin Timberlake Mussolini. But I guess, yeah, maybe that's on me. Yeah. All right. I'll allow. So I'm saying I think we both got a little heavy lifted to do. I think it was so hard not to make fun of a guy that's like. It depends how you're talking to a girl. Brother, if it's like I see you laying it on thick dude. I go, what is he doing? You play cool, baby. Play cool, baby. You eat. This is listen. Listen, I think we both have to remove some judgment of the other man's behaviors. And I think we'll get very far. I like where we're at. I don't hate it. I like where we're at. I don't hate it, but I will say this. We've gotten ourselves into a corner of it's at a nine and a half from the beginning of that. It used to be. It used to be. It's not. It's not. It's not anymore. That's like three years ago. Shit. Yeah, you're right. It's showed out. It's showed out. Yeah, we'd have every time we'd go out, we'd have to talk on the phone two days later. We go dude. Yeah, I just, you know, I'll tell you. Fuck off, dude. You fucking knew that you had your share of come on, you know, the, uh, you know, just poking poking from the poking. You're a poker. You got little brother syndrome admit that you're a poker. You got a lot of little brother in you. You're poke got a lot of big brother in your poke first. You get poked. Sometimes you poke first. In a minute. Sometimes you sit on my head in the litter room. Just right away. Yeah. I'll tell you a huge moment, huge moment for us. Pop this huge positive, huge positive moment this year. When, uh, when we got a little tense on my birthday as we did last year on my birthday, you said to me, you go, you get a little sensitive around your birthday. Don't you? And I was like, yeah, I do do that. I get, oh, you got way too. That was a huge moment for me. You let me recognize man getting your head. Listen, boss man was in there. Boss man in my head and means wanting to say boss shut the fuck up. That's two different things. Boss is like a cheese grater after a while and you're like, bro, shut up. Dude. Yeah, but it's so funny. It's anything mean. No, no, you're just like boss, shut up, shut up. Yeah, he's just having fun. He's talking about Israel for 25 minutes. And then he's like, for some reason with him, I don't care when he's like, you see what they're doing now. Fucking they keep hiding under the schools. All right. This is boss. This is what he did when we were in, uh, we're in yellow Springs. We went to this comic book, the comic store. I bought that Boba Fed comic book. Yeah. When I first saw it, I was in the store with boss earlier that day and he comes up to me and he goes, he goes, do you just the number one Superman? The first one I go, the action comics number one where he's like holding the car over his head and he's like, yeah, he goes, is that's worth money. Right. And I go, yeah, it's considerable money. And he goes, I have it. And I go, you have the action. You don't have it. And he goes, no, no, no, I swear to God. He goes, I have it for when I was like, my dad gave it to me for whatever. And he's like, I have it. He goes, and I knew it was probably worth something. Like, so I kept it in decent shape, but like, I don't know. I just never sold it. Do you think it's worth anything? And I go, yeah, it's probably worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. And he goes, psych. He just never had you. And I go, I don't give a shit if you don't have a valuable thing. Like, what is the joke? I don't understand what the joke is. Voss man, baby. Voss is an example though of what he'll do all day. You're like, shut up. I love it. I love it. I'm bringing him to Vegas. You're not getting one weekend without the Voss man. Let's go. The Voss man's on your ass. The Voss man coming. Voss dominates drugs. Yeah. Voss is also bulletproof. Yeah. He's, he's bulletproof. Yeah, you can make fun of him all day. Yeah. Nothing in one of the other. Just every insult. He just laughs with you. I love, I love, I love the Voss man. I love the Voss man. We'll get you. But you know you're wasting the slot in Vegas. With a sober man. You need to plug in the degenerate into that. No, no, I've got a nice thing going on the road. I know. One degenerate, one sober man. All right, fair enough. Yeah, Tommy and Bobby Kelly. Yeah, I saw. Yeah, you're bringing a sobie in. You bring the sobes. And Jay's only going to have three beers. Jay's going to bed at 10 p.m. Yeah, yeah. Jay's going to go play a steam deck. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby's going to wear fucking sunglasses, not drink. Yeah. Yeah, but then you got the Pope, the Pope. That's like having three out. He's been one. Pope my bills. Fly him dude. The Pope mobile. He is. He's not stopped it. That's it is from there. That's tricky with Pope. I want the Pope mobile tonight, dude. He just goes. Did he brought so we got off the plane and went to the mothership brought a paper cup with no ice filled to the broom with tequila. Jesus crumbled up cup and he put it on the no one else was in the bar. So they were like cleaning up and he put the paper cup on the bar and went to the bathroom. And then he said he walked back in and he heard me being like, well, yeah, he's a fucking alcoholic. Yeah. We got in like we got in like one. We just missed you guys. Dude, I left because I was like nothing's going on. I'm going to sit here and drink. It's good. We missed everybody and just went home. Holy shit, dude. That is so fucking funny. He was fine. Yeah. Our last I told you my favorite. He got in. He got in the car or we were leaving leaving the hotel and sometimes autograph people show up and I would you know, I'm hungover. It's the next morning. My God, I get in the car and I was fucking dude and they're not fans. They're just people selling signatures. Yeah. And it's like Jesus like sometimes they're like Sean Sean. Yeah. I got it. Big fan and I get in the car. I'm like Jesus fucking Christ. These guys suck and he just looks at me. He goes God forbid somebody God forbid somebody loves you. And I was just like, oh, you're hammered. It's fucking 11 a.m. Dude. I was like, you're drunk right now. He was like, yeah, I got the middle. Yeah, they got a fucking buddy. Eagles played the day the last my last mothership show was Sunday. Yeah. And the Eagles played that day. It was Eagles Rams. Yeah. The whole squad was hurting. So dude, I show up. I stay in all day. Tony and everybody they're out bar hop and they're like, come on pig. And I'm like, I can't guys. I mean, so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tony's like the pig signals in the air. Let's go. And I was like, I got a show. Dude, I'll meet you an hour before I can't bar hop with you guys. Anyway, I finally I show up at Copper Tank like an hour before the show and Pope is sitting there and I walk up. He's sitting like this and I walk up to the table and I go, what's up, dude? I hit him on the shoulder. He goes like this. Dude, I don't like you. Yeah. He goes, I've been drinking since 9 a.m. I was like, oh my God. Not good. Well, that was a rough one. Killed like he was sober. Killed like couldn't. Yeah. You couldn't tell he had one drink. Yeah. His standup is pretty. He can do it hammered. You couldn't. Yeah. It was wild. You couldn't tell he had one drink. That was a fun night though. That was that was the best. Tony was hammered. I've never he's been getting. It's very funny. He's like, I just realized getting as drunk as possible is fun. Don't do it too much, but it does rock. Now we always sing this song when we see each other. I should not tell anyone this, but go ahead. Oh, yeah. All right. Go ahead. Do it. See, I'm trying to help you. You're you're trying to help you. I swear. Go ahead. I'm not. No, no, no, no. You're doing your little. What was what's the song you and Tony sing when you see each other? You're doing your little. I just saved you. You think I'm being a bad guy. I'm a Snape right now. This whole time you thought I was against you did. It's you know, I'm. Snape Snape Snape the hot. All right, we'll tell the song. Please tell us. No, no, no, no, no, I'd really like to work hammered. I know, but I'd like to know it now. I know. I just got because we're always like, all right, dude, let's chill out tomorrow night. Let's not do anything. And then we then cut to the next night to a hand. We did it again. Because we got a problem. And that's the song. We sing a song called we got a problem. It makes us laugh. And yeah, cut that out. Cut that out. Nope. Cut that out. Because we got a problem. Funny to sing. Oh, that's going to come back to haunt you. It's funny to sing. It's funny to sing. Well, when you're drunk, it seems very. I love singing when I get drunk. Me and the boys, we had a quartet. What do you guys sing? We're fucking a and if I ever know it's a falling love by shot. But I can't remember. Shay, I think it's by him hit some CCR. Can you sing? Yeah. Can you sing if I ever fall in love with you? Which one is that the one you would just say? And you say, oh, and if that's Casey and Jojo. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure who is. Can you sing it? Can you sing it as literally as as hard as you can? No, if I'm drunk like no, but like right now, can you sing I can't fun game play? You try to make the boys actually sing. Yeah, that's why I have committed to the we've got a problem. So I know I would have liked to hear you really soon. Don't cut that out, but cut out what I said. Cut that out. Keep them all in. Although that's funny. It's a dumb thing you do it your friend when you're drunk and it's it's funny to you guys, you know, it's funny and I'm excited to sing it with you. Yeah. I bet you have a good time singing it with us. I will. Yeah. 10 beers will change that attitude. They're pretty jolly mood. God damn drinking is fun. Why does it never get old? Why does it never get old? Are you sure? You get so old. Like you said, one, two days off and you're like, I'm. A three comes around. I go, I'm going to have a couple. Yeah. Take it easy tonight. But my point is this like, like, like with mushrooms, for instance, right? I had I had a bad trip over COVID and I was like, that's it. I've never taken mushrooms. People do have alcohol that are not alcoholics. I don't get why no matter how bad of a hangover I've ever had, it never sticks. Like, no, don't do this anymore. Yeah, there's hangovers you wake up ago. All right. Fucking I'm done. Yeah. I'm not going to drink for two weeks. Yeah. Fucking Wednesday. That's what I'm saying. Guess who just got back today? You know, I think the difference is back to you know, I think the difference is. I think it's easier to quit a drug because a drug, the bad part happens during. With booze, the bad part happens after and that's why it's always so hard to remember that part. If for in other words, like if I drank. I also think alcohol is extremely addictive. Sure. That might be it too. But if I drank and I started having panic attacks while I was drinking, I'd be like, I'm not doing I'm terrified. You know what I mean? Like you would like a bad acid trip or something. But like the bad part of alcohol is just you feel like hell the next day. Sometimes. Also good PBS doc on prohibition. Yeah. It's pretty good. What do you say? The thing I never really thought of was so like women were really leading the prohibition movement. They were like, we need to make alcohol illegal because or no, but that's what I always thought. I was like, oh, just running in a fucking good time. Yeah. Turns out there's no laws back then about beating the fuck out of your family or raping your wife. OK. So these guys would come home. No, there's no law statement. Come on. Just whoop their family. They're taking the booze away and make the guys less angry. I think so. The beatings up after the booze was taken away. Now these guys are coming home. Dude, they drank back then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, they had a hard day. The food's cold. Yeah. And also you're blacked out. Yeah. And you're working in a fucking factory. I mean, it's you know, jobs sucked back then. Your kids are shit. I'm not justifying what they did. Sounds like it. The powder keg is what I'm saying. I'm justifying it. You justifying. The kids are shit. The wife doesn't fucking do her shit. You want to hit him. You know, you're blacked out. You got to hit him. Also too. To the moon. Remember good fellas? Remember good fellas when his dad beats him up real bad because he hasn't been going to school for months. Yeah. Like imagine the rage you would have felt if you immigrated here from Ireland or Italy or wherever because you wanted to have a better life for your family and then you have a kid here. All you sacrifice for them and then your kid turns out to be a punk. I can't imagine the fucking rage you would feel about that. You know what I mean? Like it's it's beyond disappointment. Yeah. You know, it's beyond. You're like, I sacrificed literally everything to try to build this for you guys and you don't appreciate it. Like, you know, those that's why those guys, I think drag so much. I'm not saying it's the only reason, but it's a hell of a it's a hell of a reason. Yeah. You know, but you little punk when I was your age, I had for jobs. Yeah. Yeah. But fucking I mean, man, I wonder what it was like to get cocked in a bar. Like, I mean, there must have been fights every night and yeah. Yeah. I talked about how the bars were back then and it was what they say. It was just it was brutal. Yeah. It's everything you think. Just guys getting stabbed. Yeah. And the amount like America drank more than every country on earth like immediately like just immediately because it was all fucking immigrants from my like poor immigrants. They were just obliterated and other kind like people were like, this is going to ruin this country. Yeah, we took right off. Yeah, we took right off. It's good. You should check it out. Prohibition on PBS. Is it Ken Burns? It's Ken Burns adjacent. If it's not Ken. Is it Barry Burns? The brother of Ken. This mysterious, this mysterious Ken Burns brother. Did a when was prohibition? The 30s. Right. Was it the 20s? It was the fuck had to be right. It would have been the 20s. It's Al Capone time. Yeah, like late 20s. Maybe 20s 30s. Yeah. Okay. Damn, dude. I didn't know it was that long. But it just immediately led to gangsters and it's pretty cool. It's cool time. There's this bar with the morning 20s and then into the Great Depression. They had to fucking let the booze out during the depression. They were like, all right. Fucking. And by the way, dude, the depression was detox. How fun would it have been to get fucked up in the roaring 20s because you had to drink it like little speakeasies and secret places. You would have been fun. Oh, that was. Yeah, it'd have been like high school. Yeah. Chicks fucking to the woods. I went to this one place in Worcester. It's like a pirate tavern. It's like a bar, but under it, they had the Babe Ruth. They had a prohibition like. What do you speak? Yeah, it was easy, but there was like a it was connected to the water where they would like send bottles of alcohol. They would just pick them up for like Babe Ruth and like athletes and stuff. That's cool. Yeah. The arm. I like that. I mean, I feel like it was like, I feel like speakeasies like prohibition. I feel like it was like prostitution where like it's a goddamn massage parlor every three feet. You know what's going on in a lot of these places. It's like the cops never raid them. They just operate. Yeah. I feel like that's how prohibition was. Yeah. The term bootlegger came from just guys who would sell booze on the street. They would just keep like in their socks or their pants. They would have a bottle and you just go up and take a swig and then put it back and they call them bootleggers. Now I get it. What do you think about that, fellas? Interesting stuff. My coffee thing flew over there. Sorry. That's all right. 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