NFL hires ZERO Black coaches, Giannis sweepstakes, Giants owner in Epstein files | 02.02

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time away, original. My name is Beaumonti Jones. Thanks for this thing. Wherever you get your podcast, thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars, you want to give us four stars. I'm a client, I believe you are a hater. It is super bowl week. So of course, we're going to talk about the Grammys and a few other things. Andy Epstein files, but this is, you know, I just, Brian, you've only been working in the game here, truly in the midst of the full on internet era. But it is interesting how super bowl week is not nearly as dominated by the super bowl in the zeitgeist as it used to be. Because now we just got so much other bullshit to talk about. Right. Like they used to not be the case, but it used to be like, it's Monday media, I think Monday or Tuesday, we were like, media day, right? That's now super bowl open at night or something like that. Because media day does not mean the same thing because you see these people all the time. All the time. Right. No one is just introducing themselves to America in that way. I think I caught the last wave of that because that was like the mid 2010s. Yeah. And even then, I remember started feeling like, huh? Like to me, the biggest event of a super bowl week is actually the NBA trade deadline, which is Thursday at three o'clock beyond the lookout if there's something happening. We'll be out of a quick reaction about that one. But the super bowl itself does not fill the week in the way that it used to. Like, we don't need a press conference every day from the super bowl to give us things that we can talk about during the week. We don't, we don't need that. So instead, we get to talk about what the NFL maybe doesn't want us to talk about. Or you know what they just might night give a fuck, which is we had 10 head coaching openings this year. I would like to take a moment to point out 10 head coaching openings is a lot guys that damn near 30% of the league turned over their coaches this year. And you know whose fault it is. Curse dignity, man. I know excuses Indiana one. You going to tell me you can't win with the Raiders. Indiana just won a national championship. Hey, man, it's the Cardinals. Indiana just won a national championship. That's trickling down all the way to here. Get ready in the NBA. Curse dignity. He's going to give some of y'all a fire too. But anyway, 10 head coaches were a higher. None of them were a black. Not even the dude named Joe. Not even the dude named Jesse. Not even the dude named Robert who keeps a fade or a ball. And I can't tell exactly what he's going here. But nope, shit, two mics. Neither one of them was black. Nope. We got a dude whose name is spelled unconventionally. He ain't even black, baritone. It's the white people unconventional spelling. You know who I'm talking about, right? You're gonna have to enlighten me. Click with the K. Oh, yeah. We don't ever get one. We too of a Clint Gubiak. Yeah. And I mean, you know what's his name? Roger Clemens did this too, right? But the thing Roger Clemens is his last name is C. He named them all K because K's are strikeouts. Whoa, buddy. That was a bit much. But anyway, someone who I'm glad doesn't have a podcast. Buddy, buddy, buddy. He probably ain't even got no computer. But Garrett Gubiak, Mr. Knipple, all these all you white people who give your kids these KKK names don't do this to us because we go have that question. That being said, it's the great irony, right? And the guy they're really messed up and naming his kid is the guy who you would think would not make this mistake. Stan would be Steve Kerr. So those of you who don't know Steve Kerr has a son named Nicholas who I believe has begun to go as Nicholas. But you used to go by as a postman. Yeah, as a post. Yeah, as opposed to he used to go by Nick in his regular life, meaning his name was Nick Kerr and you have to say it really slow. I'm gonna stick with Nicholas. Yeah, you know what? Or just Nick. Yeah. Right? He just, he just gonna be Nick. That's, that's all it could be. He knew what he needs to do. He needs to turn into a nickname. He needs to get out here and see if he can borrow that nickname from Nick Foltz. Right? That's what he needed to do. He needed to go out here and get him a reputation in these streets. And then they could start calling him BDN. I mean, he could carry it out. But anyway, back to these coaches. No black coaches were hired in this cycle. Though it is important to note that Robert Sala is Lebanese and from around Detroit. Well, he's from Dear Boy Michigan and that's they, that's they town. They, they, they, they got that one. Okay. You know, they, they went ahead and got that one. But that leads to, you know, semi annual hand-ranging about hiring and rune rule stuff. And kind of looking at the fact that these things really go in cycles. Now, I used to do something every year on the rune rule. And I kind of stopped in part because of the reason why I have to remind myself sometimes like, oh, man, it's Monday to the King day, you know, you got something else on that. Because it felt to a degree like I was saying something new every year. And I tried my best for those of y'all who are like dedicated to the squad. I kind of tried my best not to repeat myself. And I guess in a way, I can feel a little bit. I don't know. I don't want to say it felt like there was no point. But it becomes somewhat difficult when it's just like, okay, so what's the new angle that I'm supposed to come up with about this? There's no point that I can make that hasn't been made before. But at the same time, my fuck is still ain't listening. Therefore, maybe I just need to keep making it like for. I don't know exactly what it is that we are supposed to do on this one. Now, I have always felt that collectively, we do a terrible job in discussing this. On one hand, it's the you should just hire the best candidate. Okay. You should be able to hire whoever you want. Not quite, right? And then we get to the flip side of this, which is, you know, people on the other side, we just sit up and, right, and it could be put in italics and it could refer to many different things. But the bottom line is, there's a little sick of it, right? Sick of it. Well, what was the sign that woman had? I forget, maybe 10 years ago, there wasn't a protest. I was like, I can't believe I still got a protest. This shit, right? Like, this is, this feels very similar when it comes to the Rudy rule. Not to me, there are a couple of worrisome things or patterns, we should say, or events that have happened in this. Number one, they used to do this kind of like speed dating event. I can't remember exactly what the name is, but it would get a bunch of coaches and a bunch of people who work with teams in the same room and they would just kind of bounce from table to table. And basically do speed dating to introduce themselves to the people who were in charge. And the argument behind it was that there are social networks at place that these black coaches do not get into and therefore they don't have the opportunities to get FaceTime with these executives and to meet them. So if you put them in these positions to go around these rooms, then they would have the opportunity to meet these people. And I guess to a degree that made sense about my question of the other end was, I don't have a full understanding of how it is the white people were winding up meeting these saying folks. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, we get it that social networks race can be a barrier to entry into these social networks. But into the day you are quality control man at one of these teams, we need to talk more about how it is that this white man gets to meet who the man is at the top. Like the speed dating thing basically, it almost, it seems to me to imply a different argument. It's not even the argument of, hey man, white people feel more comfortable with white people, black people feel more comfortable with black people. It's not even that argument. It is making the implication that there is no way for black people to get known by these other people. And I guess the question I always had about that was then how they get the jobs that they have in the first place, right? But at least they were trying and it felt to me, remember, they made some expansions on the Rudy rule, right? You had to interview two non white candidates for these head coaching jobs and you had to do this also for coordinator jobs. And I noticed at least with my own eyes at least, maybe this was just anecdotal, but it sure felt like we had more black coordinators or at the very least more black defensive coordinators. Now the real barrier had typically been black offensive coordinators and that remains a barrier and that becomes an important point that we'll get to. But I did feel like we were seeing more black defensive coordinators get that job. Like I can name more black defensive coordinators off the top of my head now than I probably have at any other point in my life. Raheem Morris just got the job as defensive coordinator for the 49ers. Calvin Sheppard has the job in Detroit where he replaced Aaron Glenn who became a head coach who was basically his own defensive coordinator. Zach Orr was the defensive coordinator in Baltimore. He's going to wind up. It looks like making a move to get another gig. The dude at Carolina, the Nigerian cat, I don't remember how to say his name. There is him. There is Vance Joseph in Denver who is their defensive coordinator. I'm not saying that my ability to name these five guys has completely changed the world. I am saying that I couldn't always name five guys. All right. There is a measure of progress in that that I think is important. No. I also think that it is important to note that while of these 10, none were black. Ryan, you helped me out if I'm missing anybody here, but I've got Aaron Glenn, Ty Bowles. I guess Mike Tomlin just left of his old volition, but Aaron Glenn, Ty Bowles, Demiko Ryan. Demiko Ryan's dams. That everybody. That might be everybody. Damn. I was actually hoping to do this with a little bit more of a flourish. I didn't expect this to go away. So abruptly. Yeah. Well, the other problem that happens is when you fire at a black coach, unless they try to save money and they ain't going higher than the other one, right? The Texans got super, well, no, the Texans had that thing when they were so sorry, only a black man would take that job. Remember when they hired the dude and nobody had ever heard of? And then they hired a lovely Smith who nobody else would hire. But then they did hire Demiko Ryan's. And we're fortunate that he was willing to take the job. They had a wife from Houston. And if you know anything about people from Houston, they all, they always ready to get right back, right? That worked out well. You see how that is going for them, right? I think it's important that every step to acknowledge what is the case and not get quite as locked into what is not the case, all right? Now, the issue is what only those three, and if any of them wind up like Ty Bowles, how much longer you going to be able to keep that job, for example, right? Yeah, on the hot seat this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Aaron Glenn, let me tell you something. If I was in the business of arguing that racism was over, which I will never be in the business of, but if I was in that business, Aaron Glenn is getting to go to year two. And he fired his whole staff, like his whole offensive staff, like on Thursday. Look, we both live in this city. We both paid attention to that team. I would not have called the NAACP if they had fired Aaron Glenn. I would not, I would not have expended a morsel of capital on that one. They looked awful. He did not handle the job well. All of those things. I had to use the keyword, but they quit around Thanksgiving. They did quit. And they had five or four football games. They didn't make an interception the whole year. Yeah. He got to keep his job. With Woody Johnson, this is owner of that. There's, there's something Woody Johnson who by the way, he hired a, he hired Salah. Well, no, he didn't hire Salah. That happened when he was over there. Yeah, he's over there. And in the UK, right, it was Ireland. I can't remember which one. Her medwards. That was his guy. He hired him. He hired T.B.O.S. Yep. What, you know what Woody Johnson is? Woody Johnson is the coaches. Well, Bud Adams was the quarterbacks. I don't want to talk to you about politics, but I got to say, well, you want to make a case for yourself. I kind of got to stand down for a bit. But the 10 thing is not, it's, here's what was not encouraging to me and Ryan, you and I both, we read a lot about these things. We pay attention. There's not a name anymore. Like remember, Eric B. Enemy was the name. When did somebody go to give Eric B. Enemy a job? And I fell off of that because I was like, they was giving other brothers jobs and they weren't giving Hillboard, right? For whatever reason. Mike Zimmer used to be that guy. Vic Fangio used to be that guy. Like why guys? They're glad that these are defensive guys. But guys that people are like, no, we're just not giving you this. We don't, we don't see a head coach in you. Matt Nagy now. Yes. Yes, but hey, but he got a chance. Like that was the thing that made a frustrating with B. Enemy is that it felt like every offense of coordinator Andy Reed ever had. Yes. And he had a chance, except for this guy. But there's no name. Like there's nobody that was being pushed and bandied around. And the reason is right now you correct me if I'm wrong here. We're in boy genius mode. In terms of the coaches that people want to hire. Like so you've got the John Harball, Mike McCarthy, who I think of their own class, right? Guys with impeccable resumes, super bowl championships, you know, they're their own thing. But the kind of shenanigans make vague boy genius class is these other guys, the Kevin Stefansky, Joe Brady, who's not in that same tree, but you remember when he was the boy genius, right? Coming off the LSU thing. This has been, he, he been boy genius for so long. He's still a boy. Yeah. He's not 40 yet, is he? I think he is, I think Joe Brady is right the cost of 40. Yeah, because I want to say he was like 32 or 33. 36. He's 36, right. You know, Michael the floor, Matt LaFloor's brother, but another one of those McVeigh guys in that class. Jesse Mentor, though defensive, kind of sorta in that, in that boy genius class. I don't know what that much about the halfly guy do you? I mean, I used to coach a Boston guy. He went from Boston to Green Bay to Miami, so yeah. But all these guys like Mike McDaniel was in the boy genius class. The only black dude right now that seems to be in the boy genius class is that Nate Scheele-Has guy who's down there with the Rams and I'm telling you, somebody gonna be real weirded out when they called him into that interview and he coaxing. They're like, yes, so where's, uh, where's Mr. Scheele-Has? Yeah, where's Mr. S? Yeah, and he's like me. No, but yeah, he black. SH E L H A S E. I believe is how you spell it, but he a black man, right? Not everybody gonna be like Mike McDaniel when he gets it. Mike McDaniel gets in there and talks about. He has a black man, which means, as a black man, what you talking about? I don't understand, but that's the place that the black dudes can't get to is the boy genius class. That's the hard part. You can get to the really good defensive mind. Like so Brian Flores is an interesting case. Now I've sealed you many times. I would not hire Brian Flores, right? And by the way, he did get on when he was kind of seeing his bellicite genius guy. He got on. It's just he's never for for a slew of reasons. Some of which have to do with coaching, most of which have to do with personality and one of which is a lawsuit. He's not going to wind up getting that job. But offense, we still can't get there. The hold up remains becoming offensive boy genius guy or even just offensive coordinator. That remains the hold up. I don't know or in my own head, I don't have mechanics or mechanisms for breaking through that one particular place. But that's the hold up. Like looking at these hires, to Fansky, offensive guy, McCarthy, Brady, Munk and Kubi Agla Flore. They lean toward offensive guys because if you have a very good offensive guy, somebody else is going to try to hire him and you're going to eventually have to make him the head coach anyway. That's what the argument becomes, right? I just know this and I want to close with this because I think that this part is very important. The problem with hiring as it relates to race in the NFL is not the runie rule. The problem is that not that the runie rule is ineffective. That would be like saying that the problem with cancer is that you can't fix it with an aspirin. That is not about the limitations of aspirin. That's about the problem with cancer. And the NFL has a cancer of racism when it comes to hiring people at these levels. The problem is them. Dan Graziano, my buddy who I like a lot, he sent a tweet out that says something about how this was not a better year for the runie rule. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and I'm not like, I'm chastised Dan for this. I think he just fell into an error that a lot of people fall into when it comes to the phrasing on this and that is to blame the rule because nobody wants to blame the white people. The problem in this case is the white people who do or more accurately do not do some of this hiring. The issue there is them. The issue is the owners. All these people on top. They are the problem. And I don't think that we could ever truly have any measure of solution on this until we are more honest about who the issue is. The issue is the people who ultimately decided to enact a runie rule just because Johnny Cochran, Rest in Peace, was about to sue them into the ground. That is what made them act. It is only under the threat of litigation that they will act. Now what is tricky is I have said when people like we need to get rid of the runie rule, and I'm like, no, no, no, they don't want to do that because they don't want to wind up back in court. But I don't have any idea if you could go to court anymore about race stuff, given the rules of the current regime and everything else, right? I don't have the answers on that part. But I just want to remind everybody something that we often forget or in our phrasing we ignore. I did an event the other night with a good buddy Howard Bryant for his book at the Jackie Robinson Museum. And Jackie Robinson's son David had flown in from Tanzania and he stood up and he talked about progress and how sometimes we can talk about how we have not seen all the progress that we want to see, but there has been great progress over time. And I think coaching is an interesting place for that because there has been progress. Like I was alive for the first black head coach that we all admitted was black and got a job in the modern era and that was our shell. Right? Have you ever heard of Wayne Fonds? I have not. Okay, Wayne Fonds used to coach the Lions. I want you to look up a picture of Wayne Fonds. Go ahead and look at it right now. Yep. I just want to point out to you that he became a head coach the year before art shell. I also want to point out to you that Wayne Fonds is his people are from Cape Verde. I don't know about you, but people from Cape Verde are black everywhere else I've heard of. That was my understanding as well. For somehow he just slipped through the pioneer high and did play site and he probably still at the house like, man, I feel such a black head. Boy, boy. But anyway, I was alive when art shell got this. I have seen stretches where there was 67 black head coaches. I had seen the South of days of the Rooney rule where they were out here making moves. I remember when Tony Dungee got fired in Tampa and Jim Urce said my number one candidate is Tony Dungee and went down and hired Tony Dungee, right? Things are not what they were. They are not good enough, but it is important for those of us who speak on these matters to acknowledge where things have gotten better. But I brought up with David Robinson said about progress because I made a point there that we can never forget is that when it comes to progress in this presence of racism, it is not me and my people who need to make progress. It is white people that need to make progress. It is not us who created these circumstances. It is them who created these circumstances and they are the ones that need to do better. And as I say every year about this, the biggest winner from the Rooney rule and breaking down those barriers of racism would be the white people. One black coach would get a job, okay? Two black coaches might get a job. But if y'all start hiring better coaches, by the way, something you've never been good at is hiring coaches, right? Y'all should be trying to hire a merchant. Y'all should be trying anything. Like, let me tell you something. If anybody spent a hundred motherfucking years hiring black people at something and it didn't work, we get one chance and they don't hire another one after that. Y'all hire white men after white men like the giants. Y'all hire white men after white men after white men after white men. It ain't work one time and not once if you said maybe we should try something crazy, right? It ain't work for you not once. Not one person has just been like, fuck it, called a black guy. Yeah, yeah, I'm out of answers, right? Not once. Have you made the decision that maybe we should just try something out of the box in order to make this happen? Y'all hiring Joe Judge. Y'all out here hiring special teams coaches or whatever it is. And not one time because you said you also maybe we should try something else, right? Y'all would be the winners if you expanded your reach and maybe got out there and got some good coaches and made your teams better, right? It would serve a black person at a time. It would serve the whole league if you acted right. We ate the ones that need to make progress, they're the ones that need to make progress. So why don't you buck the trend of American history and do something that would help you out as opposed to just being dedicated to racism? Because that's the thing. So many places, so many times, right? You're an LSU football fan, you're of the age, however, you don't remember when LSU was like, nah, we just rather be racist than when. Um, there's a whole, there's a long time. Oh, man, it was the whole SEC. Yeah, except for Alabama, whatever. Hey, hey, hey, buddy. Yeah, we ain't gonna take all of you, but we'll take more than them. Well, what was that? We will not be out in word. I will tell you that. It's been a long time being like, nah, we'd, we'd rather be racist than with football games. Shit, they did it again. I don't rule for them no more, but that damn song. They were like, nah, we'd rather be Ole Miss. You know, our state is 36% black and black people seem to be very important in these sports. But now we had these flags that we would rather wait. That's America. They'd rather rebel. Yep, we'd rather, we would literally rather be worse than do better. That's how this is stacked up at every turn and they keep on doing it. And I'm just here to tell you, after one more year, either you let Kurt signate and get somebody else fired or you try something new. All right, we mentioned the NBA trade deadline is going to be Thursday, Ryan. You think, uh, you think you think they're gonna get Yannis moved by then? I, I, I sure hope so. Or I think we're, uh, we've been kind of teetering and tottering about it for two and a half years now. And I don't know if we can do another six months of it. He's getting, he's not getting bad advice. I think he's actually getting pretty good advice. He, however, when you got to pick people like to emulate as a NBA superstar, so long that's the guys that you could choose. You could choose to emulate Michael Jordan. You could choose to emulate LeBron James. You want to kick it old school? You can emulate Bill Russell. You know, it's a lot of guys, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, did you could look at him be like, yeah, I want to kick it like they did, right? That'll give me the where I want to be. I would argue that kicking it like Dwight Howard is not what I would recommend. Okay. If you are outside of the paint on defense, I don't think that emulating Dwight Howard is the way to go. And Janice is apparently playing the full on Dwight Howard role on his way out of town. And he needs to remember that that ended for Dwight Howard in being roundly disliked after being pretty universally beloved for about eight years. But that's what we got here. Now for those of you who don't remember this, all right. And let's be clear, Dwight handled this a lot worse. Dwight was set to, he was set to be a free agent in Orlando. But he wasn't going to be a free agent because his contract was going to be, was going to expire. He had a player option to get out of his deal. And this is years after they had been the finals, the Magic are not really competitive in that way. I didn't long been forecast that he was going to wind up being the next great big man to wind up going to play for the Lakers following the footsteps of Will Chamberlain and Kreme Abdul-Jabbar. And we all knew this. But every interview with Dwight was about how Dwight loved Orlando and his torn. And he doesn't really know what to do. He really loves Orlando, so forth and so on, everything else. But we all understood that Dwight wanted to get out of there. And I'll try to remember the exact order of events, Ryan. Do you remember if he opted? No, he must have opted in after the weird Stan Van Gundy press conference. Stan Van Gundy got in front of us and told us that Dwight was trying to get him fired. I think he opted. It was all within like a 48 hour trade deadline at Windows. So he opted in. I think he opted in then tried to get in the press conference. He was a lot going on, but basically for those who don't remember, Stan Van Gundy's doing this press conference. We're talking about how he's literally sick of the bullshit that's going on and that he knows that Dwight has tried to get him fired. And while he's standing there saying this, Dwight comes and put his arm around him, we're all fine. Everything's okay. People like we got problems. There are no problems. And he has no idea that Stan just told everybody this dude trying to get me fired and then Stan walked away and left him standing there to look like a fool and nothing was the say. Then he went and played with Kobe and Kobe did him no favors and nothing has ever been the same. But what ultimately went down is we viewed Dwight as a phony from that moment on. And I think what bothered people was everybody would have understood if he wanted to get out of town, right? No matter what he had said before about how he wanted to stay there forever, died, died, died. In the end, people understand things changed. Look at the divorce rate, right? And not just change, change and go to the Lakers, which is a tale as long as the NBA. But yes, but just even if it's not the Lakers, just get me out of here. Yeah, I don't want to play here anymore. It was an understandable thing. Now the trick back for him is that they hadn't won a championship there, right? So you can make the argument of unfinished business, but he had gotten them to the finals. He got them to the finals on a team where the second best player was either Hidu Tercaluor Rechar and Lewis, right? Got it with getting LeBron James out of there. He the best postseason version of LeBron we have ever seen. And he got him out of there in six games, right? And that went into superhuman LeBronness to even stretch it to six, right? But he looked phoning, okay? And people were like, dude, why you keep lying to us when we know what time it is, which you? And that is exactly what is happening with Janus. And it is a very similar story. Now Dwight was the number one pick in the draft, but they both kind of had this aw shucks sort of charm, right? They kind of had a, you know, they're the guys that want to do the right thing. They are seen as being moral white hats basically in this league in a number of ways. Dwight was wrapped up in Jesus. Janus has like a real life. He got an immigrant story to go with the immigrant story. Man, man didn't have no, he was a man without a state in Greece with no passport. Couldn't get a passport till he came here. That Attenta Cupo, that's not his name. That's how the Greeks decided to respell his name and they finally decided to give him a passport, right? Like he had to live a life where he wasn't even under his own name where he had no country to truly call his own. He comes over here and is one of the most amazing NBA stories that we've ever had in the Ascent. He won that championship and buddy, nobody stretching that one ring out farther than he is. I used to say that Dirk Navitsky and Paul Pierce were getting the most mileage out of their one ring out of anybody else. Just in the ways it changes your reputation, right? Like it allows us to think of Dirk as maybe a top 15 all time player, but more importantly, not as a soft euro. It allows Paul Pierce into some different conversations. But with Janus, it Paul, but like this, Paul Pierce never won a championship. We would not sit around talking about what Paul Pierce was not. We wouldn't do that. Janus is at that superstar caliber. The same way Dirk was where we would be talking about what you're not, right? There has been a point where you've been the best player in the NBA. There's a argument that Dirk Navitsky had that stretch also, but not only you've lost as an eight C as a one C to an eight C, which by the way, also in the Dirk Navitsky playbook, there's the blown to old lead in 2019. I mean, there's some really embarrassing postseason losses for Janus along the way. And we let them slide because he already got that championship, right? But it's hard to overcome the label of being phony. And the truth is you want out of there. We all understand that you don't want to want out of there, but you do. Does that make sense? Yes. You don't want to want to leave, but you want to leave. Yeah. And look, they've done all the things to try to keep you there. And you don't want to feel like they did all those things in vain. But they did all the things to try to keep you there. And you are still playing at a level that we would think of as MVP, caliber basketball in the world that didn't have Shay Gilders out of Xander and Yokech who's coming back, right? We all get that. But you got to stop telling us or stop pretending like this isn't what it is. You want to go? You're going to have to be the bad guy right fast and go. The truth is, if you had level with all those people there and been like, look, I've done everything I can here. And I think it's time for me to go somewhere else. I think the people in Milwaukee, because they got the ring would then understand they see what's happened for the team. They want to move into the future. They could talk about getting some picks and everything else. They would ultimately be okay with you, even if they were mad at you for a little while. Case in point, they love LeBron again and Cleveland. Right? He embarrassed them in front of America. You could be fine. But you just got to go ahead and own that part and be straight ahead with it. Now for you, maybe it's too late, right? The thing that I'm looking at Ryan, I keep seeing these trade packages that people say that the books can get. I don't know about none of them, especially the ones for the teams he's rumored to want to go to. So the rumors are that he wants to go to, and I've been told this, Minnesota, New York, in Miami. I don't think Miami turns into a winner necessarily. You do that if you believe in Pat Riley, right? Which is getting up there. Yeah, in 2026, I don't know about that, right? But I would be terrified of what you do against the team. If you got BAM and Yannis. Yeah, good luck. Yeah, yeah, how are you guys going to score? Okay? That's the Nigeria going to be all, that's the Nigeria squad right there. You know, they need to move that. They can only be more Nigerian if they played in Houston. That would be the only way. Minnesota a bit surprising that that's where he says he might want to go. New York, they'll love him here because I've been telling people this that at some point people in this city were going to realize they didn't like Carl Towns game. Took about what 15 months? A year and a half. You live here with me. It has happened. Even with the Miss free throws, they'll love Yannis's game. Yeah. He's hard. Yannis plays tough. Yannis is not afraid of being embarrassed, right? Like all of those things. And if you put him there with say, Jalen Bruncey, you got somebody to take the big shots. So you don't have to worry about the free throw. Right. Situation. Like you got the parts that are there. I think, and I've said on this show many times that I think for a lot of these guys, the game down the line is just going to be stay where you are. Right. You know what I mean? Just stay where you are because of it's so hard to do anything with these aprons and everything else. You probably got you, you might as well. The idea that you're going to go somewhere and now you'll be a champion in a couple years is going to be impossible for you again. Right. You might be better off just staying where you are. But there are no the, oh my God, it's so hard. Man, don't nobody want to hear that shit, man. Either I'm staying or I need to go. But you can't because it need be hidden us with the, I don't know where all these rumors are coming from. Yes, you do. That's the one that people don't want to hear. I don't understand why people keep. Yes, you do. Right. Carmelo is a great example. He got ugly at the end with Denver. And I've said this many times, the fact that Denver gave his number away is the pettiest thing in the world. They did it, but they did it multiple times. It's ridiculous that they did that. But mellow never acted like he didn't want to leave. He never did. And I think that part in the moment bothered people, but I think you have to look back on it like it was actually fairly admirable. Like, look, man, this the thing I want to do right now, I also want to get all my money. Right. Also admirable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also want to get all my money, which again, that was the issue. Right. He wanted to get all his money and make the move. Denver got a great trade package for him. But if you want to go, go. We may not get it at first, but we're grown. We've done, we've been doing this for a while. If you want to go, go, but you don't want people saying you are foaming. And that's what we're going to say based on the way that he is acted. 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Okay, so the Epstein files are media gold and the reason that I say media gold is that everybody's in them. Like no matter what kind of website you got, you have something that you can attach to the Epstein files and then boom, it gets posted, right? Push a T got his name tied up. How does Push a T know him? Right. And what world do Push a T and Mr. Epstein? Yeah, like what's this? So we got Jay Z there, like the rappers get involved in this, Bill Gates who, it's a good thing he's already divorced. Yeah, otherwise it would be our owners. In multiple leagues. Yes, including ones that aren't here. All over the place. Everybody's name is tied in this in some form or fashion. Now part of what's interesting about this is though is that Tish who is the co owner of the giants. I can't explain to y'all if you are not in New York, how rich Tish is, right? Like the the Tish name, what that means, like Ryan was like, what's the first thing you think about with Tish and I had three. I got his first one which is his name is all over NYU stuff, right? And then there's the titles and the likes. What is that a niece or a granddaughter or something? That's the police commissioner. I can't tell which then there was another thing that we had the met. The met you go to the met you'll see the Tish name all over the walls. Like these guys, what can Roger Gidell do or any of these people do? Because Tish's name is in the emails. The guys that are in bad shape in the emails are the guys in the emails after after Epstein had already been busted for putting girls on the stroll and you still emailing him about girls, right? Like are they treating that like he and a local bodega and they caught him up selling cigarettes from Virginia and he's like, oh yeah, but I pay full price. Right? Like is that the explanation of the justification that you have for still dealing with? Because after you get caught with that, puttin' a weekend, I got puttin' as I don't have to cut off for less than that. Right? Like hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, he can't do that. But y'all still go to this man to get girls. Like that is what these reports are saying and you are tied up in this just like all these other people are tied up in this. And I don't know ultimately what's going to happen with any of these guys. I don't think there's any legal consequences that are going to come down to it. And I also think that it's going to be so many people who get caught up in it and their names get out there that we're not going to really be able to remember because there's nobody's going to have the time to do the follow-ups about those things, right? It's just going to be embarrassing and shameful in part because most journalists, again, to these don't even have the ability to like dig deeper to find out what's really going on with a lot of them. Right? And we have not said the name of the, we talked about all these people when we have not said the president and the richest person in the world. That is true. That is true. They are there, right? But let me hit you with a however. This is a very important thing for all these guys as everybody wants it to be some punishment, right? Everybody wants something to happen to these dudes. And I don't think anything is going to get anybody put in jail or anything like that. But there's a different kind of jail that you can go to. It's not the one with the bars and the jumpsuits and the terrible food. It's the one that can be your home. That can be your home when your wife reads that you've been emailing this dude about Holleneggerls. All these dudes have had to go home to explain how it is that they got caught up in this every single one of them has had to do that. And it ain't going good for not a single one of them. The only guy that seems to have a good explanation is Russell Wilson. Hey, man, I was just trying to buy a plane. I ain't even know. I ain't never met that kill. No, no, no, no, no, no, Russ got out in front of that. Russ was like, hey, baby, I was just trying to buy a plane. Yeah, that man ain't trying to miss a plane. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was supposed to be a surprise. All right, seeing if things in free fall Bitcoin has really tanked in the last week. The digital coin has fallen about 12% in the last seven days, wiping off about $200 billion in value now under $80,000. But what was your reaction to this news? Look, man, I don't even really be thinking about funny money no more. Like I forgot that after you remember the year old funny money, 2022, that was the year, that was that was when funny money really had its time. The funny money, Super Bowl, Fortune favors to braid and everything else. But the truth is people were still going about that funny money. It just stopped being like a fan. Remember, remember NFTs? I do remember in that interview. I watched the documentary on Netflix the other day about like the run on NFTs. We were bored. Like 2021, man, people were bored and just they just thought it was going to hit for a lick, right? The thing with the Bitcoin stuff always is, man, it'll have another jump up. It'll have another drop. But my issue with funny money has always been no one can really explain the determinants of price. What's going to make these things go? And it is a cult of people who just decide that once they do it, they're going to get on it. They're going to stay on it. It's never going to stop. Right? That's the ride. And so I don't even really think that much about it no more when people get caught up if funny money. Y'all decided to do this. Now, if you knew and just woke up, I was like, I think I'm going to get on this Bitcoin thing. You deserve everything you get. The rest of y'all, hey, man, this is the ride you chose to sign up for. I hope you have a good time. All right. And finally, the Grammys were last night. Kids with the Mar became the most decorated rapper in the history of the Grammys. Bad buddy had some comments, you know, condemning ice. Lauren Hill showed up. What was your biggest surprise from the night? Lauren Hill. What time did they tell her to show up? Because it appears that she was on time. They must have done the show was the night before. Like, or did they tell her that they need to do like a silent check at 11 in the morning and then you just kept coming up a reasons for her not to leave? Like, how did that? There's no way in the world that I personally would be doing a live television show in book Lauren Hill to do it. There's no chance. She the the the chockers and the shit ain't in lines. So she ain't coming to work. You can never pay me enough to set her up there. The tribute was actually very good. And I appreciated the fact that I didn't think they got too locked in on how big the names were. Right. Like that. A lot of people that I'm aware of, but I don't think are like giant stars, you know, bringing Layla halfway into single daddy's part. I thought was a good thing, but the biggest surprise to me is that Wyclef pulled up. I suppose I remember that prize couldn't show up because he's been sentenced to 14 years in the Bing, but Wyclef showing up. I didn't know them too could still be in the same room. I thought that was very nice. I heard it come because he served no purpose in that. We didn't need him for anything on that performance. But I thought they got it, right? I thought they did a very good job of it. And I appreciated that they gave DeAngelo like a full 11 minute tribute there, right? That is, that's what you give to the real, like stars of a real particular magnitude. They gave it to him. I thought that was cool. I thought the Kendrick Lamar thing where it turns out now he has more Grammys than any rapper ever. And I don't remember the exact drag line because I don't be memorizing drag lines. So basically he talked about all Kendrick got to do the call is call and y'all give him a Grammy. Get say that the dude was wrong. He has a bit of a point. Get to Lamar has 27 Grammys. What? What are we talking about? Like I don't say the Grammys seriously, personally, right? Particularly not when it comes to rap, but 27 dog. 27. That's okay. Cool. Right. Got you. You know, and look, y'all all know I ain't really out here trying to be out here saying Drake was right, but you know, on that one, he wasn't wrong. And then bad bunny who basically gave ice to middle finger without saying it up there, he is about to be a very interesting week for bad bunny out here has had other people come up with a halftime show yet. I believe that they're keeping it a secret. A secret, you say? Yes. Okay. You know, I actually think that was the biggest loser in all of this. That dude, jelly roll. They hit jelly roll. They tried to get jelly roll on the red carpet to say something about ice and jelly rolls and he ain't no nothing about no politics. He's like, I'm from a drug addicted, you know, don't rent that from a drug, drug addict home. We don't know anything about politics. Pottin, you don't live there no more. You don't live there no more. They asking you about what ice is doing up there in Minnesota, which by the way is also not politics. Right. Right. That's pretty clear. Yes and no. And all to talk, you got about Jesus and the Bible and everything else. And in that moment, you ain't trying to talk about politics. And it's just like, it's a bummer, man. We all picking true. I got things I don't feel like talking about in front of people, right? But jelly rolls thing is interesting because at once, he's the dude with a bunch of tattoos on his face, but also that part of the world that supports that. That's a lot of his money. Okay. When Jettin, Jettin Roll used to be like on three six mafia joints, like, but his money is over there. Right. Like, his money is with these people who roll with that other stuff. I just thought you was about Jesus, partner. All right, Bo. Another great day of voicemails. We got a few good ones. Here's the first. Hey, hey, what's up, Bo? John Femile. This isn't so much an apology. You have to need an acknowledgement because I did doubt you, man. I thought you kind of being hard on the brothers in Dallas, with them being herbs and everything. And recently, I had an opportunity to work with a young man from Houston and I was talking about the show in which you were saying and talking about the shags. And he said, yeah, man, it's true. I said, what? He said, yeah, man, they wear shags in Dallas. I said, come on, man. He said, dude, they'd be running from the barber in the middle of the haircut. They just get up and run from the barber because that's all that he explained in shag. All right, man. Yes, you were right. No, actually, you do owe me an apology because you were saying that is though you thought I was lying. I told you they wear shags. And then you knew when somebody else said it and you were like, okay, now it's true. Why would I lie to you about the fact that they was wearing shags? They call it a booty fade. Is it that's any better? Yeah, yeah. Boys wear shags. It's crazy, right? They still do. And no, one boy still the one that played for the thunder. I think he finally got ready. His shag, but you've been gone from Dallas for a long ass time. Still not there wearing the shag. I think I told you about this. I got a partner in Cali. He's a great barber. He's also an actuary. So I don't think he's really barbering anymore, but he's the work at a shop in Realtto. And he said, oh, here, he's the coming there and asking for a shag. And he refused to give it to him until he finally told him, I get his shags. You can't tell nobody you've been coming over here getting a shag, man. That's bad for business. He was like, he was a dope ass shag too. He was just like, you just came to be in here telling me, telling people that I'm out here giving shags. You just came to do it. And the whole city, bad for business. Yeah, and the whole city of Dallas is like, get your shags. Shags, shags, two four shags. All right, here's our next one. Hey, Beaumont. This is Matt, Northern Kentucky. Right out side of Cincinnati. So I'm at eighth hardware today. And for the first time in my life, I came across a white Xavier. I had never, ever met a white Xavier before. And the only thing I know about this man who is a Gen Z guy. The only thing I know about him after this interaction is he's no receiver. I watch this man fumble my return, my baseball cards, and my chocolate bar before tripping over the trash can behind him on the way to put something back on the shelf. White Xavier needs to find a new position man. Big fan of the show. Take it easy. Okay, first of all, I would like to start with the fact that my bear with the Ace Hardware to buy some baseball cards. Yeah, Ace Hardware is. I think it's the 1920s. It's slowly approached to the radio shags old. Yeah. Wow, still in the league, huh? Well, I tell you this though, I still have ties with a nice radio shaft coming handy. Yeah. Sometimes you need that cord. It needs to run into get a cord. Yeah. Um, number two, what makes the idea that there are no more white Xavier is interesting is that Xavier is like a very Catholic name, right? Right. It's saints and stuff like that. When did they decide to let us have Xavier? They're like, no, y'all got that. Cool. No, no, no, we don't even need a button. You go ahead and take that. Like, what did it take for them to give up Xavier? Did they just get so frustrated to hear and us say Xavier? They were like, fuck a man. It don't even fit no more. You got it. All right. Here's the next one and some more theme. Hey, Belmani. Hey, Ryan. I just wanted to call and add another name to the recent voicemail trend of names such as the white Reggie or the white Galen for your consideration, the white Lamont. Recently was in Wisconsin. A rural part of Wisconsin. I should note, and there is an elected official in that county. An older man looks like he's in 70s. White man named Lamont. Do with this what you will. Yo, so this is the thing that people don't get, man. The country whites love a love name. They don't so much care about the denames and they don't add apostrophes and they don't necessarily capitalize immediately after the look. That's a lot of white ladies named Ladonna. Stuff like that. They do that. But Lamont, another one that I felt like they let us have. Now, you know, Italy got that dude Lamont that won the 100 meters, but he's still black. You know what I'm saying? But you remember, I don't know. You used to be a baseball manager named Jean Lamont. He was white. So yeah, by the way, speaking of which, resting piece to Lamont, Sanford, Demont Wilson, died over the weekend, right? And he was a very black Lamont, but I feel like this voicemail was in the spirit of Lamont's of all sorts. I, what do you think would happen if he said it was a real white man? I was involved in the city government up there. What if I went to one of the city council meetings and I screamed out, you big dumbass. You think he did it? I mean, that show was very like 15 million people used to watch that show. So, you know, the thing about Sanford and Sanford with Lamont for me always is all, there was nothing cool about Lamont, man. All we knew was that his dad called him a dummy all the time. That's like, that's all we knew was his dad called him a big dummy. And every time he was chatting, he used to have a big dummy at a week on the radio. That's a good thing. Oh, it was great every week. We eat every, every week. All right. Here's our last one. You know, stay in the theme with the Super Bowl. Hey, what's up, oh, what's up, Ryan? This is CB from Brooklyn. I have to tell the story about learning about Lil' Ginger Cuzz. And my son's school. So, my son goes to a lovely public school here in Bedside and he was invited to join the basketball team. And I got asked to help cook. So, I, you know, decide, all right, I'm going to do this, do this, all of it. And I had seen this young man earlier in the school year and a little white boy, Super Dupre Ginger, he pulled up to school, first day of school with some extra clean A1s, the radio, A1s, you listen, signature shoe. And I was like, all right, that is a choice that his parents made because they are not cheap and they're very distinctive. So, I'll pull up the basketball practice Ginger Cuzz on the team. They're all right, cool. Let me see, let me see what's going on with Ginger Cuzz. He's a little bit, he's one of the older kids, this is a third through fifth grade team. We get to the end of practice and the coach asks for player voices. And Ginger Cuzz is one of the leaders on the team because he was on the team last year. And he takes it to Ginger Cuzz, mind you, I know who his mom is, his mom is on the PTA. And this is spicy white. This is a regular, regular Brooklyn, live in a nice spot white. And Ginger Cuzz goes, yeah, you know, y'all did great today. Everybody gave their maximum effort. You know, everything was real good. I'm real proud of where this team is going in that dialect. And I was like, wow, little Ginger Cuzz is very clear that that young man has been the only white kid in his class for a while. And I am very excited to see where this season goes with little Ginger Cuzz as one of our team captains. Thank you. Have a good one, Bob. Have a good one, right? Man, the white people that go to send their kids to public schools with the black people, right? That's special. They haven't justified all of that, Stuyke? Yeah, special place in heaven for those folks, man. They really, really is because you really got to do that. And then quite honestly, I don't always know if I recommend that you do it. But what I would pay to hear from those people is, like, Ryan, you don't have to verify this if you don't want to. But I think that you'll agree that one thing that I would find interesting if I were a white person is when black people who spend a lot of time about where our white people tell you what the things are, the white people do that are funny, that is like, huh, you know, hadn't really thought of that, you know, it's just got of everything. Like black comedians give you all kinds of access and insights into such things, right? We don't talk nearly enough about the things that white people who spend all their time around black people have the good fortune of noticing and thereby sharing. I would love to get to Ginger Cuzz when he's like 19 to hit for like, so here's this thing about black people and then be like, what you mean? And then he starts talking and be like, yeah, he's got a point. I'll point the fifth there. Yeah, look, man, humans are humans. You know what I'm saying? We've all got things. Yeah. You guys know we got some things. It's okay. But also you're playing this the right way. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right. We do this four times a week, right? Birmingham is everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voice mail line. Three, two, three, five, nine, six, seven, seven, six, seven. By the way, tomorrow we begin our series on, no, tomorrow we don't. Tomorrow is this different time machine Tuesday. My fault. 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