Club 520 - James Johnson on hooping with Jeff Teague at Wake, Derrick Rose, Pacers CRAZY playoff run

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Based on average annual single line payment of AT&T Verizon NT Mobile customers compares to 12 months on the Boost Mobile unlimited plan as of January 2026 for full offer details, visit Boost Mobile.com. All right, man, we back. Another episode of Club 520 podcast. I'm your host, David DJ Wells, brought to you by Boost Mobile. You know the Vosman, $25 unlimited nationwide tap in with the family. James, I know we were around the same age group. You had a Boost Mobile trough on back in the day, bro. Oh, you know, I definitely had a Boost Mobile. Definitely had a Boost Mobile. Come on, man, legendary. Hit me on my next tailed shirt. You know the Vosman tap in with the family. Got the hard rock bet. My dog be here. How you would, man? Play out of town with the ladies looking like. Man, it's been wicked. I got a car, Adam Silver, but we hanging on, man, for sure. You got to call it the mission. Yeah, I know I'm going to get a car about our real. I didn't know y'all clip that. I said, Adam, you got to get this shit together. Fuck you. Fuck going off. Now, when I said the patients got cheated, the five everybody, I'm calling a commissioner. You miss one leg or the leg, you go in straight to the top. Yes, man. We'll talk. We're going to talk. Cool. We'll get into it. I don't want to get turned on too early. Bro, obviously it'll leave a long time. You have anybody hit your line about the Parley? Like they even sold on me today, man. No, not me. That's what you listen to. Not me. Oh, in fact, you deserve it. The right way, man. Shout out to Horwax Bay for sure. Last we started, at least, man. Shout out to our family over there at Stock X, man. We got family in the building. Send a guest. We got family as usual. Introduce him last man to my far left. We got my dog, Bishop B here. That's the Parleys. How you with, Nasty? What's happening, Nasty? I'm excited about this one. This one, he a real one, bro. Like this nigga lifted the building off my car. I'm faking it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, look, we here now. Yes. Yeah, that's the real one, man. Yeah. Man, listen, before you get through intro, we got to, it's only right we do the story job, man. Listen, man, the first time we had this episode playing, it was one of the craziest stories we have ever had in the city. For sure. Shout out to the old building, man. It definitely fell on everybody's car, man. Bro pulled up in the new truck. Yeah. Ram that bitch straight into the wall. Everybody pull that car out. You was saying, oh, nigga, it's raining outside. Ram, like this is nigga James wide eye. Hold the building. Hey, this is a true story, y'all. That's all right. I ain't get to see it. That's all right. I'm gonna have a great for you, boys. My car's been way worse than it was for you, bro. Oh, God. Y'all know what's crazy about that? The building, you know, it's just like, oh, God. It is. We had to get it off the roof. We had to get it off the roof. They say Y'all parked in the wrong spot. Nigga, the whole building's going off. That's a true story. Nigga, the spot where your shit can get trampled. Yeah. Check out here. Hey, man, you know everything's doing good, man. Because everybody's got new cars up there, man. God is good for sure, man. Still to my right, my dog, young nacho, young T. Got you what? Good, bro. We got family in the building. My brother. I can't wait. This is the episode. Everybody been waiting on everybody talking about. It's finally happened. It's about to be a goodie. Come on, man. The real work for us, man. We got a 16-year event, man. Pacers, legend. Our family in the building, man. Mr. James Johnson, man. Big dog. We appreciate you. Again, brother. I'm honored to be here, man. Where are you? For sure, bro. Your family. Your family is legendary to me. Come on, man. We had to do it for sure, man. Now, T, man, just tell us how y'all linked up, man. Obviously, y'all go way back. Oh, we go way back. But I'll tell you the first time I seen James. He was walking through the airport. I was leaving my wake for his visit. He was coming onto his wake for his visit. And they was picking him up, dropping me off. And I'm like, he walking by was like this. He was like, what up? And I was like, yeah, I'm going to go to wake. I just knew that was going to be my partner. Like, he was like, what up? And then they told me, James, just commit it, man. We going to have James. I'm like, I don't do that. I seen the airport right. He's like, yeah. I was like, he coached Battle. He was like, he cold, man. He cold. And I was like, he cold? He was like, he ain't going to be with us very long. Damn, what you mean by that? He was like, yeah, he going to go to the NBA. Damn. It was right. It was right. Shout out Coach Battle, man. He was right about a lot of things. Coach B. What made you choose like, what made you commit? I went on my visit. And the niggas was weak. And I was like. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Can I tell the drill. Oh, that was weak. It was weak. And I said, oh, no. I'm going to play here. Right away. OK. I love this. This is the real. Right away. This is before. You know what I mean? I ain't know him like that. Now I know HLD. Even Cam before he left. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was definitely a business decision. Yeah. More than anything else. Shout out Pat Kelsey as well. You know, making a turn to Louisville around too. But he came around. Make sure that Wake Forest was a top priority for me too as well. So I love a scout. I love a coach. Yeah. Sure. Coach Kelsey, cool dude, man. Come on, man. Getting the Ville back right for sure. Y'all had a crazy introduction to college though for both of y'all. Obviously what happened at RP was Coach Processer. But what was that like? Y'all saying Lincoln up, getting on campus and then dealing with that before you even get into school or school even start for real? Yo, that was one of the most like overwhelming. I think that college ever was at that time for real. Like after that happened, I'm like, there's nothing else really that can go on Faze us. Yeah. Yeah. So even that alone was like playing pressure free because we knew like deep down our loyalty. I mean, we deserve this for our loyalty. Anybody, you could have just left. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? With no penalty. No penalty. The portal and all this shit they got going on now. It's like you leave now. It's good money. But you leave back then. You said now the year. You know what I'm saying? But that wasn't the case for us. Like we got to go to choose any school we wanted to and with no penalties of trading schools or whatever. So I think it was our loyalty. And like I said, after something like that happened, I don't think nothing really can shake you in college. No, not sure. Yeah. I remember the day you remember he took us to McDonald's and nigga, he drunk out my shake. No disrespect. R.P. He drunk out my shake. I was sitting in the front. He was like, my point guard got to be in the front. You know what I mean? So JJ and he was in the back and he drunk out my shake. And I remember I like, man, he drunk my shake and JJ was like, that's his shake now. Nigga. Yeah. No boy. After that, he passed away. I like, I don't want no more shakes. Like that's crazy, bro. No, no, no, no, and not just me. But that's for sure. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But how long after he got like, oh, shit, he didn't. We had went to, he dropped us off. We went up to study tables. Yup. He went into his office and they was like, he was running on a track. We'd been there for an hour. They came and got us. Damn, bro. Yeah, I would. Shit. Y'all never considered transferring? I did. Because I only knew Coach Battle. Yeah. And Coach Prasad. I never met Coach Kelsen there. And I'm like, shit. We're going to be the coach. And they like, coach Gario. I'm like, what's this? Yeah. And there was boatchers out there. What was that happening? Like, I'm getting text messages from other coaches like, yo, come here. You can come to our school. You'll play this. I'm like, hey, I'm just, I ain't even checking all y'all. They ain't taking a bitch or nothing. Like, they can tell y'all to pull up. Assets. For sure. But I ain't no Coach Gario at all. But we all thugged it up. Yeah, me and I were with Pat Kelsey the whole time. Like, did everything. I ain't know Gario was next up. I remember they just had us at Coach Peahouse for like five hours. And they didn't tell us nothing. You remember? Right. They were just down there eating pizza, crispy cream, all type of shit. And I'm a kid at the time. 18. Yeah. I'm like, damn, this shit cool. Like, they ain't telling us nothing. So we just think we having a good ass time at Coach Peahouse. And they finally told us, like, damn, fuck. That is nuts, bro. Man, that's crazy. To start your college career off like that before I even get into like real campus life and shit like that. Yeah, that was crazy. Damn. Did I fuck with the new coach at first? Yeah, God, it was always cool with me. He fucked with him. No. No, no. He fucked with him. He fucked with him. He fucked with him. He fucked with him. This is how the Calc is. He fucked with him. Yeah, yeah. That's a game. Yeah, God, he ain't getting along, man. I know his new world. What's he gonna do with this? He was like, nah, I ain't fucking got to y'all. Nah, but he was so good though. Jeff was so good. Like, it was undeniably late. You're supposed to be starting. I'm not gonna nobody like, they know how we feel. It's all love. Yeah. But nah, Jeff was always, always better than everybody. Like, he do moves. Well, they used to call you by any means necessary. They used to call you by any means necessary. I could be loud and hear you. You want to help me, Corey? Nah, yeah, yeah, nah. I don't know Jeff like that. Nah, but nah, he used to get a bucket anyway. Yeah. On 511, you know what I mean? So it was like, people looked up to Jeff, but Jeff was always silent. Like, you had a really no Jeff. I think the person who got the best Jeff for real is, is Gary Clark, his roommate, another fellow fresh. Shout out to G. Yeah, like, him and G like shared a different bond. But me and him, we shared the, we the best player on the team bond. Yeah, I mean, that's how we carried it this year. About Jeff? It was like, it was like, me and him pushed each other in that sense. And then we upstairs late night playing one-on-one. The gym only was in there. We be in there Saturdays, Fridays, till 3 in the morning, 2 in the morning playing once. You know what I mean? So it was always mutual. But like I said, LD Williams was great for us. It's Smith, obviously an NBA legend as well in my heart. Yeah, my God, yeah. They always changed the game. Word. Yeah, thanks. With his speed and all that. He was a student of the game all that. Chase, Al Fruick, obviously. Al Fruick came in. When Al Fruick came in, there was no longer two best players. I was like, oh, thanks. Okay, that's me. That's my thing. No, thanks. Now we had three best players. That's so funny. We was different. We carried a different bond too. I remember when Al Fruick came on his visit. He came on his visit and I was, what do you call it, chaperone? Yeah. You don't want to call it chaperone. He was a guy, too. His guy or whatever. Man, he probably didn't understand Wake Forest was giving it up like that at the time. But right when he got there, I think he saw a football fight. Two girls fighting the hallway. Walking full out. You hear me? I ain't going to say who picked that up. That's a good one. You got it back. They broke up guys. And we had all them fights. Oh yeah. Yeah, we had like 10 fights, bro. He ended up going to Duke, though. We started the shit out of him. Oh yeah, Ryan Kelly. He's scared of this shit out of him. But it wasn't much. It was Wake Forest. I never said that about Wake. Yeah, I'll tell you Wake. I didn't know Wake was y'all was in that box. It wasn't just basketball. Football niggas, what? All from Florida. Yeah, me, all from Florida. My niggas, they was wild enough. You know what I mean? It was hella fights. It was hella fights. We were just talking about what downstairs, but it was hella fights. It was fights, mutual respect. And how was our relationship with the football team? Niggas was cool. I mean, me and Jeff was, I mean, we could have been doing it first because he made us cool with the football team. Yeah, it was. Because they kept calling me Mike Conley when I first got there. Oh, Lord. And I was like, stop calling me Mike Conley, bro. I don't like that shit. Me and JJ and G. We was all just starting to get cool. We just started to figure each other out. And he called me Mike Conley again. And I got shittty. And JJ was like, hey, my nigga, if you call me Mike Conley again, I'ma beat your ass. And the football nigga was like, what nigga? And then LD was like, nah, he a beat your ass. He was like, hey, man. LD is so cool. He was like, I hear me. He was like, nah, he a beat your ass. Dude, kind of chill down. That's how we got cool with the football players. Okay, okay. But then all of them turned out young and turn. But good guys, good character. A lot of them are chip bond. That's my brother, Aaron Curry. Yeah, AC. AC. Even Fonz, man. I know a lot of people go, I'ma get backlash on that one. The basketball, but Fonz O'Smith. He was cool. He was cool. Great humor. Yeah. He's next to me. Man, obviously I freshened me. I get in there. You know what I'm saying? I get active. I have a little bit of success. But let's talk about going into that second year where it got real. When y'all was nasty. What was that feeling like, man? So Jeff made us feel untouchable for real. I was like, I'm not gonna get it. I'm not gonna get it. I'm not gonna get it. Jeff made us feel untouchable for real. No bullshit. And me, like, keep it a being like, we went to Cali, I think we went to California, right? Yeah. That 76 classic or whatever. Yeah, I dropped out of my family. All right. Anaheim Classic or whatever. Yeah. Jeff went crazy. Yo, one of the dudes, we watching him on film, this thing is jumping out the gym. What do you play for? Bulletin? Cal State Bulletin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Cal State Bulletin. I forget the brother's name, but some was bouncy. So Jeff get it still. I think he get it still or some are rebound. He take off. Jeff take off on bro. Punch him. I think after that, everybody knew we was gonna win that tournament. Yeah. There was mad teams there too. But like I said, Jeff led the way with that. And also off more year, he was a killer man. Automatically everything that that shit was well deserved, especially like our team. We were stacked. Y'all start off no more? Nah, we start off like 25. Damn. We got some one though. That's because of them though. They was special bro. Like our practices, we all was assholes in our own right. Right. We all was like assholes. Like one thing about JJ, he always practice hard. It was give me a day or two. I'm like, you know, it was the thing. I heard about him in practice. Some of you always tell me there's no practice, all is not a day. You can't be a practice all American. He always practice hard and he rose the level of practice every day. But he you see an energy. He always talking. He always was like the vibes and our freshman year, he was like that. So now I know him as a sophomore. So they always just rose. Like they made me better player. They did that. Like I knew they was going to the NBA. Like he came back. He was supposed to go his freshman year. He did me a favor. You know what I mean? I begged it. I begged this nigga not to leave. I'm like, yo, I'm a first round pick. I'm like, yeah, but we're going to win this. Yeah. You got to come back, bro. We're going to be good. I love you. For root, you're for root me. We're going to be nasty. Like, I can't do it, bro. Then he called me like I'm going to come back. I'm like, for real? Like, I'm like, shit. If your mommy asked him, what was that decision making process for you? Like obviously you could have went to the league as before in IELT. What made you come back? You know, when you were young, you're naive. You know what I mean? Like I was naive to the fact that like we really win this. Like I always been that way. Like anything with anything. Like I really believe we could have won that month of it. And that's why I came back. I was like, there's not that like and when it with my brothers to like the fellow freshmen, something fierce that that's what Jeff, Gary, myself, that's what we called each other. But man, we was fierce. Like, yeah, and we thought Gary was going to play more. He had a burner. He had a burner burner. Gary had a burner. One of the best. Like he's one of them dudes that like I said, Jeff and I was playing ones on one side of the court. He on the other side of court with the chair going around the chair to get him looks up. I'm like, damn, this thing is dedicated. Why didn't he play that? What was the issue with him? Politics. I don't know. We just never. I think they liked Harvey hell better. Honestly. And he was older. But Harvey hell shouldn't have been playing over there. What that means. Respectfully, I think that's what he's saying. Respect. How would y'all see it would have been if it was in I.L. here? Wow. Because y'all would have been, you know what I'm saying? His sophomore year, he probably, I'm like, wait, he's probably against seven million dollars, bro. No, after your first year. I probably would have been in trouble sometime before the sophomore year. What? Yeah. I mean, like these kids nowadays, they got, they learn about this. I mean, like we didn't learn about that shit coming up or even while we was there. Yeah. Like now they're getting this so poor, so, so, so fast that they're prepared. Their parents are preparing for it. They got managers preparing them for it. So, you know what I mean? Shout out to them. Obviously they should be getting this bread. But they're more prepared. I think they're far more advanced than what we were in social media. Yeah. This era. Their light years that had a bus at that age. You know what I mean? No, fucks. Yeah, they getting paid in high school now. About something, they get to college, they didn't remember million there. Yeah. Right. Damn near. Yeah. And I'm being with my attention. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But rightfully so. You would have definitely got seven million though. Y'all would have had to have a UK pay row, bro. We probably, I'm gonna be honest. He probably wouldn't have been that way for us. No, cause wait for us pays you with education. Yeah, he probably, he probably. Because I'm fucking out. Wait for us paying people. Yeah, to go there and get that education. But they ain't got y'all. This coming shots of who on there. But I think y'all would have been like at that time. And if they got like this knowledge now, y'all niggas would have been gazillionaires, bro. They don't got to keep them, bro. How you going? Ain't no James Johnson. Ain't no Jeff T. Ain't no Al Farooq walking through. I know. It's not even gonna keep James Johnson. BYU or? I'll tell you those. Those rookie contract would have been different. Today's show is brought to you by our family, Har Rock Bed, Florida Sportsbook. The second round in the conference finals of the NBA playoffs are here where the lights are brighter and the pressure is higher and every possession can change a series. And on Har Rock Bed, every night is your side to score a major bucket. With winter go home energy on the hardwood, man, we love the same game parlays. 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Shop at sea.com to discover your finds today. Oh yeah. Maybe if you were looking at the NIL, like, well, no, your rookie deal would have been different. That's why you would have been straight with coming out. Facts, you, the number two, three pick, they again. Six years. Six years, they get way more of a different than it was before. I did eight years. Eight hard fucking years. Four. For 60. Yeah. Oh God. I crossed the niggas can run, but I don't know. I think they would have made that shake, bro. Every school in Carolina would have pulled together to kick out niggas. That's what I'm gonna say. Yeah, they are there. They're like, hey, brother, Carolina, we got six milks. He changed their jersey for us. Boys would have left. But that. Back in my day, you know, сор сор сор сор сор сор сор сор сор сор сор That's a Holocaust, it was me, but I was talking about y'all something where you met legendary run like what was that like? And we always talking Jeff about what was it like that day that shot B North Carolina, man? Because that was a crazy game. I should have stand it. I felt like we was the better team. And me, I don't believe better coach, but we was a better team. But that was like even when we be do Jeff didn't want nobody running on the the court. Like he felt like I felt like that shit was normal. Like, I mean, we were supposed to do that. Yeah. Lou, ran the court. That was our freshman year though. Yeah. That was our first year. Our freshman year we were supposed to beat the hoop. Yeah, no, not the first. No, the second year. Second year. We like, what's our run on the court for? Like that was offensive. Right. What was the harder team? We was number one in the country. Yeah, that's a fact. Carolina harder than do at that time. Carolina was nice. I think it was nice. Yeah, it was nice. Like all the Duke spoke or whatever they say with the, I don't think that should bother you. Nah, they was beating our ass there though. Yeah. Yeah. We can't even. That's a film group. We was like 30 cut. We came back though, but we was getting. From 30? Yeah. It's, it got rocking in that month. Yeah. I don't remember. We started with all. We came back, but it was rock. Too late. Yeah, it was just too late. We came back. Chow's the Cameron Indoor Boy. Man, I want to talk to you about school, like being at school before we get out of the college part. Like I told a story one day about us going to mine class. People thought I was a captain. And I wanted you to tell, because he was in my class. They put James in the Rico. I ain't no longer. This is a true story. He was in my class. So you had to put a mask on and then you become the character. You got what I'm saying? So like you like lose yourself to this world or whatever. We had to do mine. Like mine. I don't know what they call it. Mine. Yeah. Mine sound about right. Fuck you on the check. I don't care anyway. Long story short, my meds, it was his turn to go up or whatever in front of the class. Yeah, my meds just, it was his turn to go up. So he get up there and I'm telling you what the thing goes. He was killing. Just like I said, ranch. Oh, her. He had to believe it. The little step thing. Like, you know what I mean? He was on that. He was on that. We was getting that easy. No, God, God. He hopped right over there. Oh, yeah. He did that. So he was like, and then you know how they forget about it and then he won't make it. Oh, yo. That was like lose himself. Like, you know, Jeff to himself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Too cool is a great one too. Yeah. Nah. But he's always to himself. So watch him get out of himself to do that. Man. Yeah. Nigga, I was in that joke. Like, you know nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I still remember. I still remember. You should know. Yeah. We had a hip hop dance class together. Oh, yeah. Hip hop was. Yes. Yeah. Hip hop. We're gonna work our way forward today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hip hop. He was in that. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It was early. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seven in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. Hip hop was crazy. The routine was crazy. Oh, man. That is hilarious, bro. Hey, man. I know y'all's Jabba walkies are underground. Oh, man. That is hilarious. That is hilarious. Oh, yeah. Shouts of white, man. It made a right man. What is Jabba walkie? I was. How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? How? Hey. All right, man. We need some drinks before we keep going, man. Barbie, where you at? Where you at? Shout out to Barbie. What up, B? How you living? What's up, fellas? What's happening? What we got today? Enforcer. The enforcer. Okay. Okay. It's the 520 Summer Cups. All right. Shout out to the merch for sure. Salute, man. Yeah, man. Y'all, y'all wait. I told y'all the time. Y'all wait team needed 30 for 30, bro. Especially all the, like, the success all y'all had. Like, you talking about y'all, talking about Ish, talking about Alpharu, all y'all went to the league, man. What was that moment like for y'all? I was like, all right, we up out of here. Did y'all know, like, collectively or did y'all just find out? I let him tell him you first. He says it was funny. Say it. As soon as that fourth quarter, I let you down second half, and you got that belt right. They know they all say on Friday. What? Say, what lead hood? Man, I woke up the next morning, bro. And me and Gary, Gary like, man, we got class. We talking about class and shit. I'm like, man, damn. Everybody like, where's James? I'm like, shit. Calling JJ. Where you at? He said, I'm in Cali, brother. He said, you can have all this shit in my room. He's like, yeah, I left the keys and the drawer on my truck. Good luck to you, boy. I said, damn. I'm excited. I would have got that truck that I was rolling on. I was about to get that one more time, Jay. I'm back when you were going to win it. Yeah. All right, they can keep everything. They can't come back. So I never come back. They never come back. They never come back. They never come back. So I keep everything. Sorry to God, bro. He said, tell Farouk, man, they can have them shoes and shit. There was a door in there. Oh, man. I hear Farouk like, they just say go to his room. We just got the door open. The door room just wide open. Damn. They ain't never grabbing all the J's and shit. My damn. You were the one considering coming back. Yeah. I was thinking about coming back because I didn't know. Like they was first round pick. They was guaranteed. I wasn't that first. Then he was gone already. I had that call with the coach and stuff. And he fucked up letting me hear that. They said, yeah, they all going to get picked in the first round. I said, yeah. I called Jay Jay. Yeah, I'm going to help me. I was hoping to help you. I was hyped when my boy told me he was coming. I was like, oh, I pause that. I was happy. I was like, pause and repeat. Let's try again. You know, I was hyped when I got that phone call. He was going to go to the league with me and all that. So, and we did it. I always loved telling that story. Like we came to wait for us together. We left together. Yeah. That's far, bro. Hell yeah, man. Made it happen for sure. Man, had campus rocking. What was that life for you, man? That process of getting drafted and actually, you know what I'm saying? Being an official NBA player, man, walking across that stage. That shit was harder. It was how? I'm talking about, I think I had like 10, 11 workouts. Some of my repeated, like I went back to the same team twice. Who you work out for? Them workouts. Those workouts was tough. Phoenix and Toronto. Oh, I heard that Toronto workout brutal too. Nasty work. I heard it was brutal. Man, I'm talking about back and forth layers. Right hand, left hand. Damn. I heard it was like a drill. A drill, like you do. Damn, full court layups. Yeah, that shit sounded like powering the shit. End of the story, I ain't go to Toronto. If she was harder shit to get in there, I don't fucking know. Anyway, I was like, man. Where you had your best workout? Now I love Toronto. Where did you have your best workout at, as you feel during that time? But, damn, I could probably come here. Shit, I had a couple. I thought I did well in Charlotte. Yeah. Thought I was going to Charlotte for sure. Coach Ron, he was doing more teaching. That's why I loved his whole workout was he was teaching us. He wasn't even about the athleticism or the talent. For real, he wanted to see if you could pay attention and lock in with that kind of, you know what I mean? I thought I was going there. I didn't have to show too much, but I ended up going to the Bulls and I sure was a blessing, 16-pick. I take it every time. Hey, it ain't been a Bulls. We gotta talk about y'all got one of the best rap class of all time, especially top to bottom. Look at all the Hall of Famers, all the success. There's a lot of people. Yeah, I was part of a legendary class. Boy, still getting to it, man. I remember when you got drafted. I called you. I was like, he got drafted. I was still waiting. I called him. I was like, damn, nigga, you got drafted 16. I'm hype. Fuck, he was like, you up next, nigga? You know, you got those. He's about to get hype when they call your name. Because I don't want to feel it. And they said drew him out. And he was like, damn. Damn. He was like, what about that shit? Don't fucking do it. You about your time coming, man. I'm going to call you when they call your name. I was like, oh, shit, I got nervous this fuck. Then they call me. My name at 19, he called me back. Like, I told you we in this world. I was like, I just thought he's like, go back to back. It's about to be tough. He said, damn. Nah, I already knew it, though. Yeah. That season, that sophomore season was, that shit was an epic run for you, bro. Nah, man, appreciate it, man. Yeah, man, y'all was really hooping free. I know we ain't going to hook up on it too much, but y'all was really like whooping shit. Like the way that y'all was doing it, bro, it felt like a real nigga, AAU team. That's why everybody was rocking with y'all. Yeah, that's what BYU trying to say. Yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, who cares? They put that shit on wax, too. That was on the papers. They were like, yo, this number and one player on team. They don't got no stability. Yeah. Stability is crazy. Yeah, it was. What? I know that shit was. Wow. Why we was putting the belt on them. Fan section, everybody. Don't want shit. Yeah, they wanted to have to stop the game and all that. Wow. Their coach. Their coach came out and was like, yo, let the boys play. Yeah. Hey, I ain't never went to a gym. It was all white people with white shirts on. Oh, that motherfucker look crazy in there. Yeah, it look crazy. It look crazy in there. That's a fact. What's your prefer there? Yeah. We was like, we walked in there. We all just looking like. I said, what's different? Did he play good against y'all? No one. No one. But before that, I ain't never seen no one do like a t-shirt day. Yeah. In college. They had all t-shirts on. It was crazy. He played good though. He probably had like 25. Who, Jimmy? Yeah. Yeah, he was violent that night. Yeah. Damn. But was that y'all most hostile? It was a hard cover. I would guess, yeah. BYU ain't have nothing for y'all at all. Yeah, it was a hard cover. That wasn't the worst environment. The worst for me was probably NC State. NC State, that was crazy. That was crazy. What they had posters you think it was, huh? They had JJ Hicks. That's what she had. Yeah. He was nasty. That was nasty. They was all nasty. Damn. That was nasty. They were the dogs. That was real bad. Yeah. They were gonna be nasty. Bad. But NC State, that was ruthless, bro. Damn. ACC was murderous. Run off for real for real. If you look at that time period, bro, you had all the heavy hitters out there. Yeah. Maryland was bad too. Grews Vazquez for sure. Maryland was a good one. They fans was crazy too. Yeah. Grews went crazy. What it was like, man? I was some of your best. No, you did one of your best. That's not about it. So that's where they shut off. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna tell y'all about a game while we in college. I remember my boy. We, you remember you punched on Trevor Booker. Right. T-Book, I thought you was going to tell him. I'm telling you, it was crazy. It was a wild team. Bro, I love this nigga. Very crazy. T-Book went to Clemson, man. Yeah. Yeah. That nigga's crazy. What's your name? Clemson Book, man. It's called Love. Play Left. I'm telling you, we had one of the coolest teams, man. Yeah, one of the coolest teams. I remember that you had Trevor Booker. I did. I remember that you were playing at Clemson. Well, after all Brooklyn too. You played well for Brooklyn. Yeah, I did. Bro, you cool. Now you was killing that game though. Bro, you had 30. They said 50 in real. Oh, yeah. Y'all was out there for 15. You had 15 boys. You out there. Yeah, I was shooting all the shots to get the rebound. You had four sisters, team I? You was a baller, man. No, I was here. You was efficient. What was it? I could see through them. That's efficient. Yeah, yeah. You was cooking. Yeah. That started within the system. That's Jimber 23 though, boy. That's tough on you. You know what? Y'all was getting to it, man. What's a rookie year like, man? You tell me how many points I had that game? You got 15 rebounds. Yeah, I need a shot of the boy. I have to have a pocket. I think you was getting on that glass. Especially how you got the room. What? You called that egg and gave you a migraine. Yeah, you got 22. You wanted to get 15. Yeah, I'm about to say that. I'm about to say that. Yeah, I don't want to get looked at. No, boy. Yeah, you got 22. Hold on. You got 22. Hold on. You got 22. You got my... I'm fine. Double check. Come on. I always felt copy. Yeah. You got 22. 15. That's a monster game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was kind of nice. Nah, yo, it was. We were chasing before. Yeah, y'all was hooping, bro. Y'all had a squad. Man. I'm nigga for Rook, man. Yeah, what was Rookie like year like, man? You got a chance to play with one of our favorite players. I mean, everybody liked Derrick Rose, and he was cold. I remember you talking to me about Derrick Rose when your Rookie year, you like, bro, cool as hell. He cold. And I was like, damn, he cold. He like, he cold, bro. He cool as fuck, though. Yeah, he kept saying that like, me a cool nigga. And I was like, damn, for real. What was your rookie year like, bro? Man, Rookie year? I had Vinny DeLinagro. Vinny. Oh, yeah. And I swear, he ain't playing me because he went to NC State. I can say that. Yeah, me. That's great, bro. That's what I felt. But it started off wicked. Like, I'm playing Summer League first, right? I feel like I'm one of the best players. Obviously, Summer League and regular season, even Summer League and pre-season is two different levels. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But even then, pre-season came, I felt like I was still one of the best. And you know, every team I've ever been on, I've been that nigga or one of them, that nigga. It's, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so, I get there, I get to Chicago, and I still feel like that. You know, my confidence, I really feel like it's through the roof. It mean my work ethic, all that. So, I get there. First 30, 40 games, I don't even play. I was right with you, bro. At all? I don't play. And I got a great best too. Like Brad Miller, Kurt Heinrich, obviously Derek. Derek always was like, keep me humble with it. Like, oh, bro, look where you at. You know, before Derek was the philosopher that these guys know, like I know them, the young just second year in the league, Derek. You know what I'm saying? Still kicking knowledge, even that young, I feel like that's why Luce said what he said, Joe Kim said what he said about him, about even though he was younger, that they still listened to him, like he was older, felt like he was older the way he spoke. You know what I'm saying? But anyway, I'm with him. He keeping me humble with it. But at the end of the day, I'm young. I got more money than I ever had in my life. You feel me? And I'm going out. You had that account. Yeah, I'm going outside. Like for real? For real? And you know, you young, like I said, naive. So you feel like you damn near punishing them. You're not playing you and not giving you this opportunity and all that. Not knowing you sabotaging yourself. And just self worth. You know what I'm saying? You know, they say the less you've seen, the more money you'll get paid for your appearance. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was the opposite. I'm going to do spots for free. You know what I'm saying? And that was really the start of a bad side of the league where you don't want to be. And you know what I'm saying? Right. Where they start getting opinions and and and shit starts getting fabricated and you can't stop. It's a snowball effect. But long story short, that shit came with it. And then Lou gets hurt. Lou Alden gets hurt. I get my opportunity. I start playing. I'm playing well. But I'm still young and dumb. Yo, you got what I'm saying? I'm still outside. I'm still wild and and I'm playing at this point. So it's like, yo, all I got to do at this point is do everything I love to do. Is who you got me work out or inside repeat. You get what I'm saying? And wait, so you were still going outside every night. Man, you got the tig. Man, I'm outside every night. I'm outside every night. I'm getting real. You got upset or funny shit like in real. So so I'm doing that while I'm while I'm getting the minutes now that I want it. But now I'm coming back and the next day shoot around. I'm smelling wild. You know what I mean? Like you can't brush that shit off. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? You can't shower that shit off. Soon you start sweating outside. Yeah, me. Yeah, exactly. So it's important. Yeah. So I don't know this. You know what I mean? I'm not aware of this. And then you know, the older guys is telling me, oh, Jay, like you got to stay away from coaches. You got to do this. They doing they do diligence as far as like being great vets. Yeah. They ain't like it had nothing to do with them doing this to myself. You know what I'm saying? Thinking I'm hurting some that really all they do is just get another asset. You know what I'm saying? I'm not realizing that. I'm thinking the NBA need James Johnson. No, they could James Johnson need to leave. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? 100% bro. And so that's it. That shit right there was it was an eye open, especially after your first year. You know, back in the G like you signed two years, two years guaranteed and the other one was a team option. But after your first year, that's where they decide if they're going to keep your option. Yeah. Third. Yeah, exactly. So I'm going into the team meeting. They're like, oh, we don't want to do this, but you work hard. You know, the normal like threaten, get your shit together. We want you and all that. But by that time, it was too far gone now. Vinny down, Negro's gone. Tibidol comes. I mean, Tibidol's come on fresh off a championship. So he knows from defense head coach championship, you know what I'm saying? With Doc like it has pedigree on him. So it's like, he knows what he's talking about this net. Oh, first day of practice. Son put me on the penny team. Back then there is no two ways and nothing like that. Penny team is the niggas that's trying to make a team, trying to make that last spot. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I'm guaranteed at this time. So I'm like, oh, he don't know me from nothing. This is before I knew tips. Like as a man, I respect tips with everything. You know what I'm saying? Like tips is a great coach and a great human to me. Like I have no quarrel with Tims. But at that time, like he's trying to raise the niggas that was already raised by something far more worse than him. You get what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. My father's far more worse than you. So them intimidation, that don't scare me. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. But anyway, get traded from there. Go to Toronto. I'm in Toronto. I'm in Toronto loving it. I'm getting a chance. My first game with Toronto was against the Bulls. I start. We get that dub. You know what I mean? Coach, Coach, Coach, JT, he was like, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love that guy. But he's going to really give me my first chance to like, yo, go get a bucket. Go hook. Like don't look at me when you make mistakes and shit. Because you know, this game will cause anxiety in it. Because if you let it break you, you know what I'm saying? You let that shit break you every time you grab the ball. Like, yeah, I was going to get wide. You just want to make the right play. You don't want to fuck up all that shit. So it's like, if you let it break you, there are psychiatrists in the building for shit like that. Oh, God. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Now, that's the interest you say there, because they always talk about people who transition to the league. They're like, oh, he was so good in college. Yeah, all this stuff. Why is he only doing this particular role? This is like, dawg, he doing this role because he trying to feed his family, but he trying to make sure he make this next time. Try, yeah, he can do all that shit. He trying to do this and not mess up. Yeah. And that can just kind of limit your game. He trying to do that at a high level and then still mix in. You know how it is, but that shit is taxing, especially on your mind frame. But like I said, if you let it break you, then there's psychiatrists for shit like that. I fuck with the journey because obviously, me and you close, I knew it. And I remember when things went a little different and you came to the Hawks. Right. Remember, and we was talking, you was trying out, I was like, damn, JJ going to be on the Hawks with me because he was on the team. But my nigga is so competitive. He was about to make the team so competitive. They love him. D-Ham talking to me like, JJ, man, this is what we was missing. It's the perfect piece, but we go play baseball. And this dude, we call him good at everything. We call him, we say he's great at life. He does everything well. So I didn't know his nigga play baseball. So we playing baseball, I'm okay. Kyle Corbett's real good, all these guys. It's a pop, fly ball. Outfield. JJ, Coach Bull about to get it. He love baseball. This is primary sport. JJ, let me get that. Throw it here. Coach Bull like, he can't play here. What? He was pit. Wasn't that a lot? He was safe. It was. It was tight. Nigga, that is insane. So this was for out three. I'm not sure his old ass even saw that. Well, I'm trying to win. I'm going to bet on myself. I'm going to catch it. And me, he should have saw the aspect on that side. Yeah. I mean, the spectrum was. But we know you were wrong. But you know you were wrong. But I remember the day. I know we I'm fast forward in your career because I want to talk about Memphis part when you went to Memphis because you really turned up. But I remember when we played Miami, he was in Miami and you hoping he he running the pick and roll 77 doing his shit. And I remember comes to the bench, you know, I was asked, I was like, God damn, we could have had that shit. And Coach Bull looking at me and said, fucked up. Fucked up. I fucked up. Sorry. I can't believe I fucked up. And then he might have said something to him. Yeah. Now I bug him up to me. Yeah, because he was just like, he's like, he's such a good fucking player. These are the players that you need. He's going to change the game. It was him and Dre Ma. He was like, they're like point guards that play the four position. You can put them on anybody. You can split them on four and he would just give them so much praise. And that was just like a whole. Fucked up about the NBA is, bro. And that's that's why I say that's why I focus on because niggas wouldn't know that's why niggas don't be in certain places. Like I'm way better than you at baseball. Yeah. Don't make this about me being on this fucking team. I mean, I'm shitty. I'm not in the field, bro. He know everybody was hype. Yeah, bro. And but not until the bro is asleep, bro. He got me more pig for a catcher. Yeah. Cut it like you. I'm just kidding. I don't think he needed to be behind the batting. He got for real though. Everybody in the whole like the whole coaching staff was hype about. I was hyped. NBA is crazy. Well, especially after training camp, I'm like, yo, I got my guard back playing my. I forgot. Hell yeah. Me. That's about it. Yeah, bro. Fuck him up. So we got a charge for that. That's cool. To me, it's a great thing because I think you went to a place where you really find your skill set and show that you what you do really well. Even to Miami turned up. Yeah. But now after Atlanta, I went to Memphis. Yeah. And that's what I really turned up for a little. Yeah. You put on a show in Memphis. I was having a ball in Memphis. Yeah. And they let you cook. They let you play your brand of basketball. Right. Right. Some of them highlights, bro. It's crazy. How was that going there though? They embrace you right away. Yeah. Most definitely. Like I said, like you can carry baggage with you, right? Yeah. It's good. All of mine was pretty much bad. It was like, you know what I mean? I'm at the end of my end. I just went to Atlanta, tried out for a team. Got cut. You hear me? So like I'm in the G League playing and then Memphis 10 day. When I went there, it was like more like they wasn't judging me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was more like, you know, how bad can this nigga be? Man, we got Zach Randolph and Tony Allen. Yeah. Fuck it. That's what I'm saying. No, for sure. For sure. For sure. And I think I gel with the team. I gel with the management just off the strength of that. Like you know what I'm saying? They didn't look at me like the person, everybody else, or the other GMS might have passed on or whatever. It was more like, no, that's what their culture is about over there. You know what I mean? But they do teach you how to be a professional, obviously. You know what I mean? They got ways around that. No, for sure. Hell yeah. That's a tough round too much when we talk about Miami Heat. Sure. Heat culture. A lot of that is owed to you. If you know, you know for sure. What was that moment like, man, getting in South Beach, you know what I'm saying? Having some real successful years down there, man. Man, nah, it was, you know, I give a lot of credit to you, Donis. I always have because he held a standard. You know what I mean? He wouldn't let you settle over there. And I'm talking about with anything. For the single niggas, you know what I'm talking about. He helped y'all out the club for real a lot of times. Oh, that's real though. You need to experience more championships. Respect. Word. And beyond that, obviously. But he's the one who really like showed like how to be tight-knit and trust each other. Because you know the league is all about, yeah, I trust you, but I want your minutes. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, I trust you, but I want you to fuck up. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like he was already above that by winning the championship and understanding what it took to be a champion. So I think off rip, obviously everybody in the gym or everybody on the team had my respect for him. But being able to play basketball and even this is like even during like the pickup days, you know the pickup days before the pre-season starts and even all last year starts. So like it's pickup days and coach out there like, yeah, whoever the best players, that's what you're going to play. You know what I'm saying? You know, we came in at 09. It wasn't always the best players we're going to play with. Out of the dog. I think it was getting the most money. Play. Exactly. You could be 10 times better than the person making at this time, $15 million for three years, four years. That was big chicken. Yes, you're great money back then. And so you finally get to the heat where they're like, yo, you get to play your brand of basketball. And if you're the best player here, you want to play. Now, I think everybody felt a way about that where it just brought out the best in everybody. On top of UD, obviously, harping on like, we built champions here. We champions around here. I wanted to win one of them so bad. So bad over there, especially for you, Don. It's like, I feel like for UD, I think he wanted us to win it more for us, more than we wanted to win it more for us. You know what I'm saying? So I should show you like the humility he has and the given kind of person he is. At the time, he was 36 too, like 36, 37. Oh, man. Yeah. Like 2016, 2016, 2017. Yeah, but that's not, to me, that's not like, old to hoop. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, to me, like I signed with a team and I'm 36, 37. I think if I have a good training camp, I give myself a chance. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. UD player, he was 42, boy. Damn. Yeah, yeah. But then because he got running 77s with Draggage, going live with the White Side, picking roles and handing the ball off to Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, of course. That's my man. That's my man's man. Like, you know what I mean? The Johnson name says enough, but that's my man's. That's not how White Side was crazy. He was hooping. Man. He was nasty, bro. He's really the one who changed the whole like body fat shit. Like that nigga came in in humane. He was like seven foot tall, 250, four, four or five percent body fat. Niggas was like, yo, I think he was a dunk. He's a dunk every football club. And then also everybody had to get down past that. It was like, you used to be all right with seven. Now we need you at six. That shit really like that? Man, what? You didn't believe it? I mean, I believe it, but damn. I'm talking about. I'm hot as fuck. Well, I'm so fucked up that even if I look at the scale, I know I picture Miami Heat. Locker room. You know me. You know me, JT. My shit always been bad. Yo, I can't go a week without without working out or something. My shit. That's that I'm like, I have some more. So I think like that part of me, I should get big quick. For sure. Too quick. So like I always had a thing about that, but that actually didn't really. Big on that shit though when you got there though. They're finding you. You're losing bread. I am, bro. Because you're eating. That's crazy. That is crazy. Bro, I'm gonna leave you, bro. Mike, can you talk about? Cut the air out for my boy. I'm about to throw a dime. I'm saying they hold you to a standard though that that even yourself didn't know you was capable of. You know what I'm saying? And that's one thing I will say about my, that's why I feel genuinely that's why they can get second round picks and no, no, not drafted at all. And then make gems. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely evident as well. Like you said, a lot of people who go to Miami where that was getting that shit off. It didn't matter where he was, you're gonna hoop, you're gonna get on this court. Right. Hey, did not discriminate at all. Nah, that's what I'm saying. They give everybody a shot. So I naturally feel like that brings the best out of you naturally because you have a shot to play now off of anything else that goes on around the bubble of the league. It was strictly, am I a better basketball player than this guy on my team? Yeah. I was, you know, moving around a little bit. What was one of your favorite season play? I'm always going to love Toronto. Chicago, obviously. You know what I mean? You get drafted to Chicago. I feel like you were a kid. You grow up watching Jordan. Yeah. Yeah. You get there, you see all the trophies as jersey. You don't need the banners. It just automatically feel like this is what you're supposed to be. You don't need to dream about shit like that. So I think the Bulls for sure. Miami, obviously. Still love Miami. I still live in Miami. Beautiful city. In Memphis, the time I had in Memphis was dope. Yeah. I'm dope. The highlight is that you go right there. Okay. I loaded up my, I got here, James, man. I want to push. Oh, okay. No. Yeah. One of my favorite highlights for you, bro. Five to three productions. Drummer my man's now, but... Little smoke. Drummer my man's now, but... Yes. He did me bogey so over here, boy. I almost had to bring a nigga out. I buried you. Yeah, I'm not a dickhead back yet. He was wilder right here. Oh my God. You had me look. I get up calmly. I don't want to commentate this because you know, like I said... But yeah, that was one of my favorite highlights. You're welcome to come out. I don't want to. I don't want to. I understand why he did it. I didn't understand why he think it was a hype. That's the dude, me. I'm over the... I'm upset. I'm over the... That's 525, me too. I am so, bitch. I was a drug. Fuck it, man. Fuck it, man. Yeah. Connie Baselot slipped. I was like, damn, boy, he was a brave boy. You know, I respect that though. Respect that way more. Them type of players right there? Yeah, like... We men. Yeah, yeah. What I'm saying, we men. You making a play... You making a play as more of a... a rah rah, your team up, why we skating this team, why we getting thugged, bullied by this team. So, like, as a basketball player, I understand. Yeah. Like I said, when we cleared up, I love this shit. Stop picking up. I got a text in the humidifier. I'm like, it's crazy. It's crazy. He out of what? I love this, man. I want to talk about it, man. Because you bought your robot vacuum on your Barclay card, you got 0% interest for up to 24 months, which makes watching it hypnotically sweeping up your crumbs even more satisfying. Oh, Mr. Bit, what you buy is your business. Helping you pay less interest is ours. Barclay card backing your future. Subject to financial status, new customers only. Representative example, 24.9% APR representative variable, 24.9% purchase rate per annum based on 1200 pound credit limit, season C's apply. Listen, man, I'll never forget, man, we played in Milwaukee Bucks, man. And shit got real tricky, man. And they played in our place, man. And then they was only right, man. They had to go get the legend for our team. And when you pulled up to that, man, all things been great ever since, man. What was it like when you got the call to pull up in the city, man? Said, I was astounded. Like I said, bro, I seen the build up. I seen the first year we was here. Yeah. We didn't go to the off. And then the second year, we were like, yo, we in this shit. You know what I'm saying? You thought y'all, hey, I'm beyond. Third year. We want to try to win just for the city. But did y'all think y'all was going to really win that game in the 7-7 Tirey? You think it hurt? Yo, how do you not think that? That was hoping. He was hoping. Yo, bro, he running his story, bro. I feel like if it wasn't winning it, that was the only other way. Yeah, bro. There was only two outcomes. He was going to win a chip or that was going to happen. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hot. OKC, great players, great team, all that. But like, nah, the way he wanted to start the game, normally you know his game. Normally he's going to get involved, get people involved. He might give you, you give me the open three. I'm going to take it. Can't be honest. Then I'm going to spray. Then I'm going to pull it up. Exactly. They started looking. It came out aggressive. I was like, yeah. Exactly. And we've seen this before. Anytime Tyrese came out that aggressive, we was getting the dub. History shows. Every time he came out that aggressive, he was saying the numbers keep it real. But I saw that unfortunate happen. That was, I talk to you all the time, man. Obviously we ain't got a chip, but that's one of the craziest playoffs runs that I ever got to witness, especially as a fan. Obviously you've been around there. What was the vibe like, man? Because I was just whooping everybody, bro. I'm telling you, it was normal. Damn. Especially with Andrew Nimoy. He like does a great job of like, you don't get too high, too low. Yeah. He was an even killer. Killer. You know what I'm saying? Pascal, obviously you know his vibe. So like Tyrese, he was the more the one that was just like, yo, we got this many more, this many more. You know what I mean? But we seen this shit over and over again, even before this crazy run. Mm-hmm. What he did, what he did to the Spurs in Paris, that 16-oh, 13-oh run by himself. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I mean, DJ talks about it. Yeah, I think it's had a chance. He did. He had a chance. He had a chance. I think they could play probably. He had a chance. Yeah. Bro, no way. No, I'm saying, y'all could have won. If he didn't get hurt. I'm rolling. That shit, he's turned up so much. All I'm saying is just look at the end of the half. Look at after he got injured. Yeah. And see what the score is going into halftime. No, I'm saying, I'm just saying. Think about. These niggas, y'all could witness motherfucking for real. Like, we wanted to win for the city, for our show we had to do like, we ain't no gimmicky ass niggas, but we had to create some shit for the show, just because DJ is such a, we hate on each other. That was obnoxious too. Yeah. Yeah. My thing was. We was pod every night. He bring him. He blowing. He blowing on the show. I'm like, he's trying to push us. I'm wild. My niggas, he's 50-53 against the niggas. It was. It was. It was. That's another thing. That's another thing. It was like, yo, everybody was bringing they best. Bro. For Martin. Yeah. Yeah. That shit, that shit. Double A dead, every nation is dead. In the garden. It was impressive. It was kind of like, you watched the game the other day, nicks and the cats. Absolutely. So what y'all did is basically what the nicks did to the cats. You said that. Yeah. But the only thing is, how many minutes they had left? Like seven. We had two. Yeah, y'all did that shit in like a crazy. And these men. I mean, yeah, bro, eliminated that lead, bro, in like 65 seconds, bro. Off. On some dream shot, man. Bro, they were sitting on every screen. No, double, no, JT, no, double put in pain. I'm talking after every practice, he put in pain too. So like to see them just go in, like I'm telling you, we're around each other. Like we generally all fuck with each other. So it was more like we get to see your work at it on a daily basis. Yeah. I wish y'all would, I wish Tyrese didn't get hurt. I would like to see how that fourth quarter played out. Because that was a hell of a series for real basketball hit. Yeah. It might not have been the most attractive series because of the fans, because of the Indiana, Oklahoma. Yeah, it was. Yeah, but with basketball hits, that was a good series. Man, that was great basketball. Good bump. Amazing. Like we even said it, we was like, yo, whoever gets the first stand, like you know how like you get the first row win, you more likely to win this shit. It was more like, yo, whoever gets the first two games, like you got to win two in a row to be able to win this shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like we would have got one and two. I feel like we were the one that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Confidence was crazy. They was hooping, bro. Like these niggas really got the city on. Man. I don't think it's going to be tough to recreate that. Yeah, I was bringing people together that will never come together. That's what you don't know. Yeah. Niggas hoods in my town, nigga, they was, niggas was celebrating. Nigga, I was. Together, bro. Nope, what shit? I was the most hated nigga in my city. Yes, nigga. He from here. I was the most hated nigga. From every side of town. Niggas cause his whole ass nigga. Yeah. Niggas killing to all that shit from different hoods. Everybody was against this nigga right here. Trust me. Don't gotta tell me anything about Indiana. I done dabbed in the two year bed with this nigga. I'm like, boy. No, I'm not. You talking about the niggas money though. Loves it where they from. I heard every story. I knew Lou before he. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about all the stories. Like, definitely proud to be where he's from. Yeah. Stand up nigga. Like, boy, they were. Can't have your opinion on nothing out here. Oh no, this nigga? I'm like, I had a feeling. Nigga's from my hood. What's up with your man? That's some whole ass shit. Yeah. They're from the city. Niggas fucking for them. What the fuck? Oh God. Niggas was telling me, James, get on his ass. So I was like, I'm gonna have to chill. I was like, fuck, because DJ ain't coming here also wild. And we podded nigga every night. Every night. Y'all kept. I watched. We owe y'all a lot of shit. Y'all kept the lights on in the years. I ain't gonna lie. We got a couple billion. You guys kept the lights on. No, we didn't. What I'm saying, y'all kept the content for us. Yeah. When it did. For sure, but that was lit. That shit. I'm gonna let them niggas know when I see them. I was talking. We talked about these things. These things keep winning. DJ keep looking. Yeah. He was talking about it. So it was lit. Right. He was out there. He was out there. It was so. It was so. Good times for sure, man. But while we're here, man, SGA looking like he damn about to get another one, man. You saw it up close and personal, obviously, you know what I'm saying? A little bit different. Like, SGA. Is that short for Wimby? You got Wimby in there winning at all? Absolutely. Yeah, he cold. Look, that was all early because me and Mook said, Wimby the greatest we ever seen, bro. We I never seen no shit like that, bro. I've never seen it neither though. Yeah, nah. That's all moving like that. Nah, but don't surprise you when you see the shit that they've been allowed to be seen. Like the yoga, all his little work aspects. What's those stretches and all that? The band work? He does all that before. Yeah, we weren't doing all that. Not at all. I hated foam rolling. Still do. Damn. I didn't foam roll. If you foam roll, like you're really fucked up a little bit. Mook do that shit. That didn't hurt. Yeah, see what I'm saying? Mook do that shit every time before you. You gotta be crazy. Man, Wimby was with the monks in the summer, bro. He said, I'm locked the fuck in. You know he was about to be sealed. He's got to stay healthy though, bro. I don't think he's going to get 41 every night. I said she's cold. Nah, but his decent the brothers. I feel like the monks in the Navy sealed. You trained with either one of those groups. Yeah, it's different. I mean, they trained him, bro. You trained. Man, people don't know when you got the wake force, you had to pick between kickboxing or hooping. I know because you were like, I'm about to get some money. But people don't know, man, you really like that. Your whole family like that. Yeah, I got soft that week. You know, you chasing that bread. You can't pop off like this. This is before the grabs and all that with Facebook. But they was a post in Facebook like that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, shit was used for other things. My niggas probably get to it. Yeah, but now I'm. Yeah, grown up training, fighting always allowed me to, you know what I mean, be myself and hold my head high everywhere I go. It always taught me like staying in the moment, like enjoy the moment, enjoy that space. And I think that shit helped a lot, tied in a lot to like everything I do period in life is like, I don't care if it's skateboarding, I want to be better than Tony Hawk. Being a mech biking, I want to be better than Nigel. What I'm saying is like, I have a problem with wanting to be the best or be better than everybody I hang out with. You know what I'm saying? So it was like. That's how he is too though. Got to be wired like that though. Yeah. I'm saying. I have some different kinds of niggas for sure. Y'all overly competitive for sure. Facts. You should have seen us bro. We used to argue about everything. They were my niggas. What? We used to argue like when they put us on different teams and practice, like he was going to beat me up one day. We used to talk about it early. He's about whoop my ass. I like. For setting the good screen. I set the good screen. If I was going to have to resort to violence. I was like. Yeah. He was talking out. Yeah. I mean he's just going to around me grab my. Grab. You know like I don't know if you guys, but when you're chasing, you know what I'm saying? You can use the big that's in the screen to like get around. You can do it. Right. And he like grab, got around and like got low obviously. Pause like low around. He grabbed my knee. I'm like, damn, they're you trying to rip my knee? Yo, I forget who it was. It might have been a walk on. He got a bucket anyway. Coach got, coach got fired up and all that. And just like this bitch has niggas like, no, like, fuck you. My fucking knee. Like, yo, fuck your mom. Fuck that gang. Fuck. Fuck the people about you. Yeah. Fuck that. That was funny. A good screen too. It was. It was. It was. It was. I let him get around that motherfucker. Like. Oh, good. Yeah. It was all that I said. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I said no more. That's what he said. Hey, that's what he said. That's what he said. After practice, you got, see me. And this is during like holiday time, like Christmas time. So niggas is not in their dorm. Yeah. Everybody's in hotel rooms at this point. They put you in these hotels because no one's allowed to stand on the campus or whatever. Uh-huh. Man. They almost got wicked. I was like, I dread it going knock on that door. Yeah, I mean, like, I was like fighting myself back. I was walking down the hallway and thinking, oh, no. No, no, let it go, Jay. That's what he said. He said, fuck your mother. I ain't never let that pass. Damn it. I ain't never let that pass. Listen, bruh. You know, we got to practice. We got to practice. Yo, we don't throw no regular perks, mister. All these dogs. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, don't run a little faster. I don't. I'm ready. That's a story, bruh. I think, I think, I think, we get in the, uh, we get out of practice. So I'm acting like I'm still mad and Gary like, hey, nigga, when the practice over, nigga, go on here and run to the locker room. I'm holding back. No, you scared. I like, I ain't scared. Fuck you talking about these. I see you better be that nigga mad. Ain't nobody holding that big motherfucker back, nigga. You know how you talking? You shit. You shit. You fucking shit. What the fuck are you doing? We, we had to practice. Niggas be shooting around. I'm out. All right. JJ like, hey, nigga. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. I'm like, what the shit? I give my shit. LaPour like, you know, my nigga LaPour, he's like, I'm gonna take you back to the hotel, man. Take you back to the hotel. JJ like, Gary called me like, JJ, you gonna get to your room, bro. I was like, ah, shit. What was you so mad for though, bro? No, you know, I was being mad. That's the way I'm trying to be. Yeah. I'm telling you, and you know, like when the walk-ons is getting busy, like rebound or they still, like, nigga's got a run for that. Oh. Speaking of running, that's when I found out Jeff was really crazy. Like crazy. We, we, uh, we in practice. After practice, we got suicides. Boom. Everybody make the first one. Everybody make the second one. One of these niggas on the team, I don't want to say his name, Jamie Skeen. Bro, we had one left. One left. This nigga was not making it. I seen, yo, remember that? Yeah, nigga. It's like a black, I'm talking about shirt off, ready to box and fig again. I'm talking about, we would have a hop you, Jamie Skeen. He wasn't wrapped tight. He was like, my friends, he knows that you know you my man. You ain't wrapped tight. No, no, God, Jamie was crazy too. I'm sorry. God, but, uh, Jeff, he was a, he was a, he was a, he was a, I was mad as shit though. Nah, he, I, he was mad as shit. I was mad as shit. Man, he was winded too. That's why he wasn't. He, he, he, he, he was really running. We had to run the mile like eight days to the scheme. That's what I'm saying. We was running backwards, bro. You're gonna kill scheme. They like, like him off. Nigga, we ramping. Cutting them out all that. Jeff never said nothing to nobody before that day. That's crazy. You got, he, he, what was you like 250 back then, 245? 245? 6, 8, 245, right? Yeah. This nigga run the mile on what, 545 or something like that? That's good. He was up there. Yeah. So I had to run it at 515. I think he ran 545. Skeen had to make it in six minutes, right? This nigga scheme, I love scheme, bro. He wasn't making that bitch out of all. Nigga, we had to run this shit like eight times to the scheme. But we didn't realize that we ran the mile backwards. Cause nigga, we all was like, come on, scheme. Come on, scheme. You're gonna make it. We all run this bitch backwards in six minutes. He finally make it. He died over the line. Make it like 559. Everybody hype or whatever. Then coach Musil's like, you motherfuckers just run a mile backwards. That's crazy. Damn, we in some shape. Change. Really? Well, fuck it. Yo, yo, remember when Harvey crossed the line? Hey, yo, you're doing a Harvey. We run in the mile, right? I think it's seen a year for him. Yo, when he get to the last 200, we on the, he got 100 yards left. I'm saying get, get that going like this. 40, 30. Yo, about time he got the 20, this nigga whole body cramped up. They got a whole body cramped. My nigga hit the floor. He ain't even crossed the line. Shit. He couldn't even do him that favor late. This nigga is, Rob. Yo, that's true. Yeah, I do remember that shit. Yo, boy, you had to go get the IV. See, this is how I knew Gary was a little wired different. He's like, they motherfucking ain't even make it. You can't, you can't help me. It's all the same, Gary. He's like, they motherfucking ain't even make it. He ain't ready? He's like, yeah, they ain't motherfucking even make it. I was like, yo, this is crazy. Yeah, yeah, why? Man, y'all had one of the funniest days ever. Man, that's fast, bro. It's just fun to see, yo, man. Nah, for sure, man. Definitely appreciate you for pulling up on me. For sure. Yo, yeah, before we out here, man, tell the people where they can find a new pie, bro. The new project. Yeah. It's still in the works. Oh, you see that? It's still in the works, but that means stay tuned. Stay tuned. Wait for that. Nothing silent, man. Be on the lookout for that. I don't know what to do, man. I don't know what to do. God, man. On the way, for a short tap in, before we out here, be here and tell people they can grab some merch, buddy. Shopclub520.com, man. Tap in, 520, we out. It's going down, we out. So the volume. 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