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Lawrence Taylor Talks Being The GOAT, Golfing With Michael Jordan & How He'd Shut Down Tom Brady

46 min
Oct 23, 20256 months ago
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Summary

Lawrence Taylor, widely regarded as the greatest defensive player in NFL history, discusses his legendary career with the New York Giants, his competitive nature in golf with Michael Jordan, and his perspective on how modern NFL rule changes have fundamentally altered defensive play compared to his era.

Insights
  • Modern NFL rule changes designed to protect players have paradoxically reduced defensive dominance and intimidation, which Taylor argues was central to effective defense
  • Taylor's philosophy emphasizes full-speed play reduces injuries more than cautious play, challenging the league's injury-prevention rationale
  • Mutual respect between competitors, even adversaries, is foundational to professional football excellence and longevity of relationships
  • Physical dominance and reputation can win psychological battles before plays even begin, a strategic advantage eliminated by modern rules
  • Taylor's post-football success in entertainment and charity work demonstrates athlete brand extension beyond sports
Trends
NFL rule evolution creating generational divide in defensive capability and player comparison validityAthlete crossover into entertainment (film, wrestling, acting) as revenue diversification strategyCompetitive mentality in non-sport contexts (golf, gambling) as extension of athletic identityNostalgia-driven content consumption around legacy athletes and 'golden era' sports narrativesGenerational audience shifts (Gen Z) requiring different athlete engagement and communication approachesPost-career athlete positioning through charity work and community engagementComparison debates between eras becoming increasingly contentious due to rule changes and statistical inflation
Topics
NFL Defensive Rule Changes and Player SafetyGreatest Defensive Player Debate (GOAT Discussion)Generational Comparison: Modern vs. Legacy PlayersPrevent Defense Strategy CriticismAthlete Crossover into Entertainment (Film, Wrestling)Professional Respect and SportsmanshipPost-Career Athlete Brand BuildingGolf as Competitive Outlet for AthletesNFL Hall of Fame LegacyCoaching Philosophy and Player DevelopmentQuarterback Sack Records and StatisticsSports Gambling and Betting TrendsGen Z Sports Audience Engagement
Companies
New York Giants
Taylor's primary team throughout his Hall of Fame career; transformed franchise from 25-year playoff drought
WWE
Taylor competed at WrestleMania 11 against Big Show, inducted into WWE Hall of Fame
People
Lawrence Taylor
10-time Pro Bowler, 3-time NFL Defensive Player of Year, 2-time Super Bowl champion, discussed as GOAT defensive player
Michael Jordan
Basketball GOAT with whom Taylor regularly plays golf; competitive relationship with significant financial stakes
Bill Parcells
Giants head coach who mentored Taylor and allowed him creative defensive freedom while maintaining accountability
Bill Belichick
Defensive coordinator under Parcells who influenced Taylor's defensive approach and player development
Joe Theismann
Quarterback whose career-ending injury Taylor caused; they remain friends despite the incident
Randall Cunningham
Quarterback sacked 27 times by Taylor; discussed as frequent opponent in career statistics
Ron Jaworski
Quarterback sacked 28 times by Taylor; most frequent sack victim in Taylor's career
Tom Brady
Discussed as modern era quarterback; Taylor notes Brady's frequent complaints and rule changes in his favor
Micah Parsons
Modern defensive player compared to Taylor; Taylor argues comparison is unfair due to different eras and rules
Big Show
WWE wrestler who competed against Taylor at WrestleMania 11; Taylor praised his athleticism
Oliver Stone
Director of 'Any Given Sunday' who recruited Taylor from rehab to appear in the film
Mike Tyson
Boxer Taylor respects and would not wrestle; mentioned in context of modern athlete comebacks
Quotes
"I think I went 86 when I was in the NFL MVP. I think that was a big deal."
Lawrence TaylorEarly in interview
"To play good defense, there got to be some intimidation, okay? It's not about when I go out on the field... I've already got a reputation. People already scared of what I'm going to do."
Lawrence TaylorMid-interview
"I learned a long time ago if you're going half speed, if I'm going full speed and you're going half speed, you're going to get hurt."
Lawrence TaylorRule changes discussion
"That's something to take to lose. You can beat him on every hole. He's going to press you on that last hole."
Lawrence Taylor
"I actually hit people, okay? So we're different type of players. It's not a fair comparison."
Lawrence Taylor
Full Transcript
But cunningham, I sacked him 27 times. I ran for cunningham. He ran for 27 times. 27 times. Oh my, they're having nightmares about you. Have you gotten the golf with the basketball goat, Michael Jordan? Did the one thing about Michael, you got to understand, that's something to take to lose. I've beaten this bull time. He's down to about 19,000 or something. He wants to double the last hole. Hey, baby, ready to flip. Leon, is that you? Where is that? Come to me and we on stream with a chat. You can make a pie, so get your set. So my car is the outside of the bell. I wreck you. Here we go. Click your like up here for daily. We double car is the inside of the house. I'm a child. I'm a child. I'm a child. Bless me. Bless me. I'm a child. Bless me. What's up, guys? Missed exact here. Welcome back to Double Coverage. Today, we have a very, very special edition for episode seven. I'd love to welcome on 10-time pro-buller, 10-time all pro, two-time NFL. Sorry, three-time NFL defensive player of the year, two-time Super Bowl champion, the only unanimous defensive selection for NFL MVP, the real LT Lauren Staler. Hello, everybody. Okay, I'm just happy to be here. I'm going to answer whatever questions he asked me. I'm not going to ask no questions. Hey, this is his show. So let's get it done. Okay, I appreciate it. It's a tongue twister to get out all of your accomplishments. You've made so much. And my eyes, and not just my eyes, but many others' eyes. You're the greatest defensive player of all time. You are the goat. What accomplishment meant the most to you? You know, it was a accomplishment meant the most to me. I think I went 86 when I was in the NFL MVP. I think that was a big deal. And just playing with the Giants. I mean, when we first came in, when I first came in, Giants had been to a playoff game in 25 years or something like that. So just be able to get to that playoff and play well. Bill Bela check. Ray Perkins. I'm telling you that I have gone through some great coaching. I'm great coaching, you know. And I'm just happy that it turned out. Yeah. I'm happy it turned out well. Couldn't have turned out much better. I wouldn't have. But I would have. I would have. But I would have. But I would have. I would have. But I would have. I would have had a great time playing with the guys I played against. Playing with the guys I played with. You know, you're thinking about it coming out of college. That you, you know, you want to do well. You want to be in the pro. You want to make money. You want to make money. You want to do a lot of different things. And. You can't stop. I mean, you can't say, well, just because I've been drafted, I'm going to be able to do all these things. So you've got to work. Yeah. You got to work. You got to put it. You got to put it in perspective. And luckily I had a great coach. He was that I can sit in a great coach. I built. I built myself. Yeah. I mean, I can sit in a great coach. And he helped me throughout the years to be the man I am. Alabra, and what was your relationship like both on the field and off the field? The coach themselves? I don't understand. Hey, he understood that he's the coach. But I'm going to do what I want to do. Yeah. Actually, you know, I am. When I go out on a game day and stuff, you know, because I said, and I've had, you know, all kinds of problems and stuff like that. But a night on football Sunday night on football Monday. Yeah. You know, when I go out on the field, I want to bring the best I can. It'd be the best. I want to be the best player on the field. You know, and Bill, he understood that. So he allowed me to do the things I do. He allowed me to do it. You know, I remember he telling me, he's just getting on my, on my, on my, on my butt all the time. But, you know, you got to do this. You got to do this. You got to do this. You got to do this. And, and, and every time I didn't do that. I always made a big play. It was a big play because I know from out of position, you better do something good. Or you want to have to listen to him. All right. So he said there, he said something like, okay, I'm going to let you do it your way. Yeah. He said, I'm going to let you do it your way. If you want to, um, do the defense this way or you want to, you know, go here and there and stuff. I'm going to let you do whatever you want to do. But, since you screw up, you got to do what I want you to do. And, I was a deal we had. So, I didn't have to listen to him for the next 10 years. But, I have to cut myself. It's hell of a coach. Yeah. He's the hell of a person, and I'm telling you what, um, he made, I was a great player, a good player. Parceles made me a better player, just by with him, yeah, he did. We talked about your love of golf. Have you gotten the golf with the basketball goat, Michael Jordan? Oh, yeah, but we play a lot. We play a lot. And Michael say of a very good player. We go back and forth, but it's the one thing about Michael, you got to understand. All right. That's something to take to lose. Okay. And at the end of the day, you can beat him on every hole. He's going to press you on that last hole. He's going to press you on that last hole. And then you listen. Hey, and you got, I mean, this is one time. And this is not all the time because we go back and forth. We go back and forth. I'm beating this one time. And he's down about, I don't know, like 19,000 or something like that. So he wants to double the last hole. He wants to double the last hole. I mean, I'm going to beat you all day. Now you want to double on the last hole. I went in because it's, it's, it's, Michael's like this. If you don't go on that last hole, then you'll never play with it. Hey, he was not. But so we don't want to last. So he lost the last hole. Yeah. So we're sitting there and he waiting to get paid, but we was at the casino. Not only did he pay me, he actually gave me a tip. I'm like, well, that was the most unbelievable thing I've ever said. You got you, you got your, you got your, and you gave me a tip. I'm not saying that I'm a better golfer than Mike. I'm not saying Mike's a better golfer than I think we both are compared to each other and we enjoy the games. And when, when I see him, okay, with type of smile I got on my face. I'm trying to with his, and that's his safe. He's going to try to fight. That's legendary. Growing up, I heard about the legendary 86 giant defense you mentioned. The legendary 85 bears defense with Singletarian Richard Dent. The 2000s Ravens defenses with Ray Lewis and Henry. And today's NFL with all the rule changes that affect the defensive player, do you think it's possible that we see a defense that physical and that dominance? I don't think we'll see another defense like that because the rules don't allow it. You know, you can't hit the quarterback, you can't hit, you can only hit the runner back at a certain spot, like about three years down from the waist belt. So I mean, stupid stuff. To play good defense, there got to be some intimidation, okay? It's not about when I go out on the field, or on the Sunday morning and going to a stadium. It's not that I'm going to play the best that I can play. Yeah. The thing is that I've already got a reputation. People already scared of what I'm going to do. So I'm so let's say that's where you, when you can win the battle before you even get off the bus, oh my god, it's great. That's what I enjoy. A lot of people would say with the rule changes today, it's maybe a good thing because there's a lot more offense, more touchdowns, more scoring. What would you say to that? I'm a defense player. Why the hell I want that? Yeah. More than that. I know this. I want a lot more scoring and so's of the things. That's not what I'm looking at. I'm just being. Then why even have us out there? Yeah. Why even have us out there? You can't play, you know? Why even have you out there? I'm saying, you know, you say, well, you know, they're trying to make the game where you don't get hurt. What kind of game is that? What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Guys, I learned a long time ago if you're going half speed, if I'm going full speed and you're going half speed, you're going to get hurt. Yeah, okay. Or if I'm going to you're going full speed and I'm going half speed, I'm going to get hurt. So listen, this thing is, full speed, less chances of getting hurt. And at the end of the day, you go home or you the game's old whip that come over and shake your hands to, hey, enjoy that. That was, that was physical. Yeah. I know. I'm not looking to be mental. I wanted to be physical. 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Given you played in such a different era, where it was that much more physical, and you had that playoff dominance, and you're not only the most feared past rusher, but the most dominant run defender. What do you think when people try to compare your name to a player in today's game, like a Micah Parsons? That was a cute way to get in there. Okay, wait up. Micah Parsons, I'm pretty sure he's a good player. He's a great player. I... How is the one's better than the other? There's always been good players and stuff. I mean, and I don't know. I mean, I, well, if I'll be in... He's a good player. He's good at what he does. Okay? He's good at what he does. I'm... I was good at what I do back in my days now. What else does it say? I mean, Micah Parsons, you're good. So it's not good for anybody to compare you guys, because you guys are different players, different players. We're different players, man. I'm telling you what, we're different players. I actually hit people, okay? So we're different type of players. It's not a fair comparison. It's not fair at all. I know you. I win. Okay, I win. You do win. And we know that. That goes without saying, right? You weren't a unanimous MVP by accident. Right. You went with my buddy Eric to the Giants game versus the Eagles. I know that. What do you think about this Giants team with Dart and Scatabo and this defensive line? I mean, I've gotten to what you had next, that question, but at the end of the day, it's not fair comparing the Giants nowadays Giants to the yesterday Giants, because like when I was playing, because we actually had to hit people, okay? Right now, I don't know what type of football they're playing, but it's a different type of football that I play. Yeah. But that's still way the league is, okay? And they have a good quarter, a great quarter. I'm not going to say great, I'm not going to say great, because there's nothing. You'd have a good quarter back. They have a good running back. And they have a good team. Just that they have to put it all together. Now how the heck do you play the other night? And you want to play, was it a secondary? Yeah. Preventing defense. Preventing. Yeah. What the hell are you preventing? I don't know what you're preventing. You're preventing your team from winning. Most of the times. Because at the end of the day, I didn't kick your butt for three quarters, three and a half quarters, three minutes and three quarters, eleven minutes, eight minutes and 32 seconds. I've been kicking your ass and all of a sudden I wanted to play. Prevent. Makes no sense. No, that's a no prevent. And I understand that is always a call, because back in our day, that was always everybody thought, well listen, if they're going to score, we're going to make it harder for them to score, because that's got to make use more time and get down the field. But looking for a day going to field goal, a guy that can kick and go, you can kick a 50 yard field goal. What the hell are you looking at? Yeah. Hey, send the dogs in. And that's what I, that was one thing I liked about Bill Parcell and Bill Chowett, Bill Bollochet. They send the dogs in. They send the dogs in. They're going to say, the secondary of his sleep all day. And then go in sleep. We're going to send the dogs in. Yeah. Okay. That's how football goes. But we keep on going. Yeah. One question. Tim is a moored. Yeah, I will. You got the sack, a lot of quarterbacks. Who was your favorite quarterback to sack? Favorite. See, people, he's a fast quarterback. He's athletic quarterback. He's a lot of football. Yeah. Jaws. Jaworski. Jaworski. I sacked Jaworski 28 times. 28 times. 28 times. And there she is. Oh, she's not. But Cunningham, who is the sacked him 27 times. What the hell? Cunningham is the one that's running on. 27 times. Oh my god. I mean, this is, I'm listening. I'm not nervous about you. So, I mean, it's, it's, um, I enjoy because you know, that we go out there, we have a good time and, and I, and I, and I play physical. I, um, eight man covers and we let you have the little, I don't want them to have nothing. No, let's go. Yeah. But, uh, I tell you, I enjoy the game. I enjoy the, the, the, the camaraderie. I enjoy the, the, the good, the bad, the ugly, um, and some of the guys, most of the guys had a play against. We're still friends to the day. Yeah. Because they know, I know what they're not going to give up. This guy right here, Jaworski, or cutting a hand, or a size man, or they ain't going to give up, you know what? And you're not going to learn, you're not going to earn their respect. Yeah. Just, just sitting at their, no, you got to go, you got to, you got to teach them. Let them know that I know that you know that you can't beat me. Okay. So, there's that mutual respect. Yes, absolutely. Of you and the guys you win against. Absolutely. And you can't play football unless you have that type of respect for a guy. Yeah. You know, if you just want to play stupid football, then they're going to play stupid football. But let's say, guys, we think, um, at the end of the day, I know what you're going to do. I'm not looking to hurt you. You know what? I'm not looking to hurt you. Because I got to respect you in the first place. And that's all about respect and they're gone. And given them what they deserve, you expect, you think? I know you have a meeting zone on the Mondays and Tuesdays and Wednesdays and all that stuff. And they're going over. Hey, let's say, hey. And they come up to Lawrence Taylor. So, and so, and so, and so, and so, I said, well, help. You deserve to get the Lawrence Taylor that you want. On Sunday night or Sunday or whatever. Because you work so hard for it. You deserve it. I got to give you my best. Yeah. You know, if I don't give you my best, then what do I have a money for? So, so when you're out there thinking about the fans at home, and that you need to put your best effort through because, you know, they're going to want to. Well, no, no, no. So what bar I went to on Saturday, but, um, yeah, just, I got to go to the community. Yeah, just I got to, um, I, I got to give you what I got because, uh, and sometimes it's not enough. Sometimes this, the, they will come out and, and totally. Yes. Yeah. Because in certain days, you know, everything don't work the way you want, all the time. But, hey, I believe in giving my teammates. I love the team. And the fans. I believe in giving them what I got. Yeah. Okay. There's some days it's not enough. Some days it's not enough. But you know what? Hey, sorry. Some days it's not enough. But you can always say that you did your best. I do my best, okay? Now, I can, now, there's times where, uh, our, our, um, decisions that we make, and, hey, at the night before, I ain't the bad, ain't the bad decisions, okay? But, hey, I'm gonna give you my best, okay? Didn't affect you much. Yeah, it does, okay. All right. But that's, that's how it, I mean, I, I, I, I love it. I love the contact. I love the, uh, the little way. We interact and stuff, and, and, uh, you're, you're, you're loose. You know, you're not trying to hurt anybody, but you listen at the end of the day. If you come this side, you make it, okay? Yeah. All right. Yeah. And, and you mentioned Joe Thiesman, you're still friends with him today. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You guys had that famous, well, infamous play. Yeah. Um, that, um, that unfortunately ended his career. But obviously, you were just playing a hundred miles per hour. Yeah. I mean, I went to, I, I, I, I called him at the hospital, um, the verdicts day, and I said, hey, Joe, man. And, and his, his wife got on the phone, right? And she said, I said, can I speak to Joe? She said, she covers up the phone, but I can still hear. She said, Joe, is that guy? Is that guy? I said, well, okay. All right. So I go and I say, now I talk to Joe, Joe, Joe, hey, man. I'm sorry, um, you know, what happened, stuff. He said, Joe said, hey, L.T., you know, you broke my tibiala and fibiala. He said, you, you broken both. And I said, Joe, you know, I don't do half, nothing half way. If I want to break one, just break them both. Okay. But we, we, we're good friends, still good friends. And, um, a, um, it is what it is. Yeah, that's a nice football. Yeah, that's football. A lot of people that are watching this are Gen Zers. That's kind of our audience, real young. Say that again. A lot of people that watch us are Gen Z. They're real young. They're 18 to 24 years old. Oh, Gen Z. Yeah. Oh, I can't even talk about the rapper. No, no. Jay Z. Jay Z, he's pretty good. He's pretty damn good. Okay. I hope he's watching. That would be pretty cool. Okay. But, uh, but they might not know that not only are you in the NFL Hall of Fame, you're also in the WWE Hall of Fame. You made a vented WrestleMania 11. You went up against a 400 pound band, band, big, low in front of a sold out, hard for Connecticut. What was that like? I know it was, it was, it was good. I made a good financial decision there. But, um, let me tell you something. He was probably one of the best athletes I have ever seen. I mean, even in NFL when I see all these, the big guys and stuff, he was huge. But he could move. He could be one of the best athletes I have ever seen. I'm saying what? I'm a serious. I was, I was shocked. I was amazed. The band band was, um, um, I remember when we shook the road. I remember. He had this thing where he gets up on the top rope and stuff. And he looked at what he told me, man, listen, I'm going to climb this road. I'm going to climb this thing. And then he says, listen, I'm going to jump. Don't move. Yeah. So I'm sitting there. I'm sitting on a thing and he's sitting there. And you never know when he's going to do it because he started riding, we were coming up that, um, the post and stuff. And he came off that, and all I could do was just close my eyes, man. I'm like, hey, don't. But he is. It was like, hey, it was cool. I mean, this guy was probably one of, seriously, if he had to play football and been like an office alignment or an defense alignment, I think he could have, um, excelled in that because he was, he was, he was, he was hell of an athlete. How nervous were you going into that? Is it a different feeling than getting ready for a football game? No, no, no, no, no, no. I get, I get ready the same way. I get a ball of scotch and then I then sit there and I'm, good one, you get ready. I'm ready. The real L.T. You won't get that anyone out. You won't get anyone out. Yeah, that's the real L.T. What are some of your other hobbies outside of football? You say you're not really a football buff, I know. No, not a football. I heard you're a beast on the golf course. You play with my buddy, Eric. I play with, I play a lot of golf. You just see, and Eric is a play with Eric, but Eric, Eric, he's not getting the best L.T. He can get right now because right now I'm not, I've got some, some problems and stuff like that. So he's not getting the best L.T. Uh, that, I don't think he can even handle the best L.T. But he's still losing. And what? What? No, but seriously, uh, I have a lot of fun. I play a lot of golf. I do a lot of charity work. I, um, I love to view around kids and stuff like that. And, um, and, like I said, uh, my life is better now than it has been in the past. You know, so I am, I am, uh, happy with, you know, my, my life situation, my life, uh, I'm happy with the, my partner in life. Uh, I'm happy with my friends. Um, I'm cool. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah. You deserve it. Well, yeah, just let's say. Okay. Do you think I could rock an earring like you? Maybe an MZ and something else. You gotta say now. I'm not pulling off. You gotta say, I am almost 65, 66 years old. Um, when you've been saying all this, all this, this, this rock, this one, we mean rock. Throw a rock at it. What's wrong? I'm gonna listen, make a listen. People eat like a old man, okay? Yeah. All right, I'll understand. All right. I'll translate. I'll translate. Okay, you translate. What's up? It's Miss Xac from Double Coverage and the only nicotine pouch that I trust is Lucy. Lucy Breaker's offered the best hydration and the best flavor. Before I'm making a pick, before I'm recording a pod, the first thing I'm doing is throwing a Lucy Breaker in my mouth and opening up that flavor capsule to get that extra hydration and flavor. And they've got some great flavors, whether you like mango, berry, or my personal favorites, espresso and apple ice. Right now, you can go to Lucy.co slash coverage and get 20% off your first order. Lucy is also offering delivery straight to your door. 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And just so happened, all the stone comes to the rehab because he wanted me to be in the movie any given Sunday. And as I told him, I would love to. But I can't because, you know, I got a commitment of, I had to stay the same for, you know, like 70 days or something like that. So, just so happened, so we also, they start shooting the film down in Florida and stuff. And he said, well, why did you just come and be a technical guy? You know, for we show, so that we doing things, they'll go away football players, really doing stuff and stuff. So, hey, I got out of rehab and I go down. And I watched the parks and stuff. So they had Michael Duncan Clark, you know, from the Green Mile and stuff. Well, he was playing the part of, that I was, they wanted me to play. Yeah. Right. It was, and the problem was, we're going through, we're going through scene. He was really, he's big, but he was, he's not aggressive. You know, he's not aggressive enough. He was not aggressive enough. So, the, the, the, the director, he actually said, listen, hey, in the lock when we got, can you go in and, and, and put on like a helmet and put on the uniform and, and, and, and all the stuff and, for the gear on, and come out here and show, uh, uh, uh, uh, Duncan how, how, how, how is, how is, post-beplay, right? Yeah. So, I'm said, man, what the hell? So, I go out and I do this whole scene all by myself. And, and after the scene was done, uh, uh, the, the director, he jumped up, said, that's what I'm talking about. He said, that's what he said. He said, LT, you are. Well, he said, Duncan, you're fired. Like that, I'm sure. So, I, um, but I had a great time making the movie. I'm saying what, what, uh, uh, uh, there's some great play, uh, people in there. Uh, I, I, I had, I had a great, a great time doing that. Um, so after that was overwefted, you know, when I'm found some other stuff, I, I wanted to do and, uh, uh, with John Klub, Van Dam and all those guys, I, I, um, I got, you know, I moved around and had a good time, yeah. What was your favorite role? Um, I would say my favorite is not the biggest role, but I think my favorite was, um, any given Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was the, because it was almost something that I knew a little bit about playing football. A little bit? I know a little bit about that. You could know something. I could see that. Okay. But it was instant magic when you were on that set. Yeah, but I had, I had, the, the guys, the people, I mean, a, um, you know, the cast, everybody was, it was just, right on the money, man. It was, it was, it was easy and, and took a long time, though, the shooting, you know, four months, but, um, it, um, it was, it was worth it. Before we started shooting the show, we talked about how Mike Tyson came back to the ring and box against Jake Paul. Would you consider getting into the wrestling ring again? You look, uh, uh, fight Mike Tyson or Jake Paul, which one? Logan Paul in WWE. My friend. Don't you wrestle him. First of all, at WrestleMania. I am not, I'm not going up against Mike Tyson because he's a man of love, man. But he may forget this, you know, I got to watch out for that. So you're not wrestling him. I ain't messing with him. All right. I respect that. Okay. Would you wrestle against Logan Paul? Logan Paul. It would be similar to Mike and Jake. You and him. Okay. Anybody that used their fistful of it, I am not messing with him. Okay. No, let's do it. No, but seriously, the guys nowadays, I mean some great athletes. When was the last time, you know, Mike Tyson, kind of, you know, Jake Paul. You got all these guys, man. I'm telling you what, big kid. You just never know what's going to happen. Yeah. I just never know what's going to happen. It's going to be fake. It can't be listen. It's not like, you know, back in the wrestling days where you got, you know, George Beckord, Johnny Weaver. You know. But I tell you what, I enjoy my life now. You know what? And there's things that I wish I could do, but I know I can't do. Not where I'm at right now, but it is what it is, man. I tell you, I live, I do like going and watching giant games, you know. I know, to a point, to a point, you know, I'm the type of giant fan that once they start losing that turn of TVO, you know. So, hey, you know, I guess I'm not a true guy. I just thought, no, I don't want to see that. Okay. But it is what it is. But you were pretty happy when they beat Tom Brady twice in Super Bowl. You know what, hey, Tom Brady is the hell of a player. Hell of a player. I'm very glad that John's beat him twice in Super Bowl. But how does a guy like Tom Brady get that many Super Bowls? I don't know. I mean, listen, I mean, listen, go up. But two times. I mean, even that name sounds a little... Hmm. Okay, but no, I am a great player. I mean, this is the... I just, you know, I can't get it. He complains a lot. He complains a lot. They're all, too. He complains. Everything has to turn around. They've got a Tom Brady rule in. You know, what the hell? The fucker rule? Yeah. You've got to Tom Brady, but with God's, you get hit. Does somebody tell you in football there is contact? Yes. Okay. What would have happened if you went against Tom Brady full spin? But listen, that won't work. That won't work. Because I... That wouldn't work. Tom Brady. No, me and Tom Brady, I mean, he's not going to outrun me. I'm going to... I'm going to hit him because I... That's what I do. Yeah. That's what I do. So I mean, listen, that... But he's good dude. Bella checks. Thanks to the world of him. Yeah. And that's good enough for me. That's good enough for you. Yeah. Appreciate it. Thank you for your time. Before we head out, what's one thing about the real LT that nobody knows? Really completely in love with my situation, my life now. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah. Thank you for your time. Thank you. It was an honor. Alright, buddy. Thank you. Alright. Welcome back to Double Coverage. I would like to welcome on. My guy, you heard him on the intro. World of Cleaned Rapper. Hot boy. That's fine. That's good. That's good. He's standing for Neon today through the my bookie segment of the week. Let's go. Cut the fan on. Cut the fan on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You came on the intro, you killed it. But you love football. Yes. You grew up playing it too? I'm a lot of player. Running back. Pulled back. Slot. See, but... They pulled me in quite a bad way. They really liked quarterback. I played on defense too though. Yeah. My favorite position on defense I played was like corner. Safety and I'm back. They pulled me in those two. Who's your favorite player to watch today? Justin Jefferson. You know Lamar on that. Lamar, yeah. You know that. Are you friends with Lamar? That's my boy. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna play on a scene in cup of time. Broward, right? Yeah, for sure. Dursing high football, we got the Vikings going against the chargers. Chargers minus three and a half. Hot. What's your pick here? I mean, a money line. Yeah, yeah. You're taking the chargers. You're drawing with Herbert. Yeah, for sure. I got the Vikings plus three and a half. Vikings plus three? Yeah, yeah. I think we cover. No, for sure. What else? What else? What other picture do you get? Eagles giants. Eagles giants. Rematch. The giants beat them last time. The Eagles trying to get revenge. It was yours. What's your day? I'm taking the giants plus seven and a half. Plus seven. I have money line. I like that one money line. In the final game, Aaron Rodgers still playing. You said he's like the LeBron of the NFL? I ain't going to lie. I'm a dizzy being playing though so far. He's 41 years old. I ain't going to lie. Like, he's going to keep going there. What you think this is, lies, yeah? I think he's got to be. I mean, this has to be. And if it's not, this year, it's got to be next year. LeBron didn't stop yet. LeBron has a stop. No. How LeBron is? 41, too? Yeah, about there. But LeBron started playing at 18. He's 40 already. LeBron started at 18. LeBron's in year, what, 23? Yeah. I thought it was 25. Yeah, maybe 20. I mean, he got a lot. I think he is. I think he is in 23rd. Yeah, yeah. 23. But now that last beat, Packers over Stillers. We're both going Packers over Steelers. Yeah, we're going to buy the point. I'll take two now. I think the Packers take Rodgers down. The Rodgers are going to be trying like, you know. No, for sure. He's trying to show up. Thanks, sir. Yeah. Yeah. Think about it. He do got a show out of it. Yeah. They finished right on him, two of them. Yeah, yeah. They're not going to just let him come back and just let him. No, no, both. You left us, you just come back and just win. Yeah. No, he won't. That's not happening. No, for sure. Appreciate your having you on. How to bring you on after you killed the intro. No, for sure. Before we finish every episode, we like to conclude with a little drip check. So tell the people what you got on. The jewelry. The clothes, everything. I got on the files. Got on the file. You know the files. Uh huh. I don't know. I love, I love. And I got on the LV hat. And I don't know how much. Where's the. My shirt. He had got it from. She got me out of. Self of the files. I don't even know how much diesel has either. I started chrome. Yeah. Chrome. Chrome. Chrome. I got a show. 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Now the mission's gone. This color is. Color is. Yeah, yeah. I used to know. Yeah, we're coming. Double coverage, episode seven. Double coverage, two. Double coverage, two.