Joe and Jada - Monie Love on Queen Latifah's genius, Cardi B's star power & Fat Joe's Native Tongues connection

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So for all your building materials, higher requirements and kitchen needs, simply head to Travis Perkins and benchmarks on Joseph Ray Road, Latenstone. Do we want matters for the trade? And you can pull up the tape from Arsenio, you can pull up the tape from... You was pregnant on... Hell yeah, I was on Showtime at the Apollo talking about Mone in the middle. Really in the middle. Mone in the middle. Really in the middle. Yeah, yeah, what up y'all? This is Joe Crack, the dawn. Know who it is, your boy Jada. This is the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. That's right. Today is very special. I don't know if we have an iconic legendary icon of the culture. You have one of my friends. You have somebody that contacted me to get on the show. But she's here because she's a legend. She was going to be here regardless of the fact or that. But my business partner over here owes her an apology because he was, you know... He might have had that fair, it might have been the expensive fair rubbing against... It's something, you know, it might have just had a little brain freeze at the moment. It happens to the best of us. But you know, we're going to get into that before we get into a deep conversation. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guest today, Mone Lung. Yo. Yo. Legend. Legendary introduction. You like that, right, Mone? Serve that, Mone. Yo. And wish you had? In the middle. No, and y'all did that deliberately too. Yeah, I did it. I proved it all. You guys did that deliberately. You're the first artist to be in the middle. I said, y'all, come on. We need a hundred. I was getting ready to sit over there and Joe was like... Right here. You're a light man. You made the middle famous. Can I please tell you I had no intention of it becoming a thing within itself when I wrote that song. It felt good. The music was talking to me. It told me to write that. What I wrote came up with the hook. It felt good. But I really didn't think that it was going to grow legs of its own. I mean, surpassing... You know, you go to your kid's school, the teacher be like, we're going to put her in the middle. Like, you, like, you tired of it. Yeah, you should have patent. You should have posted to get some money off the middle of every... Like, honestly, I mean... The middle of the mall, the middle of everything. Yeah. Besides the song Doing Well and it was the first song that I was up for a Grammy for. Besides any of that, I didn't know that years later people would see me and they wouldn't necessarily say, that's Mony Love. They will say, that's Mony in the middle. Like it grew its own leg. It's like the female slick Rick that makes with Dayna Day. How could you still got such a strong accent after being here for... You seen everything in here? I'm not that strong. So what happened? What? What I said, I don't hear it. One of my questions I was going to ask, you know, when I go to Puerto Rico, there's some Puerto Ricans that look at me like a fake Puerto Rican. They be like, yo, you ain't Puerto Rican because I didn't grow up there. I wasn't born there. Like are you more considered American in London or like she's from here? Okay. So that's a really interesting question. At this point, I'm 55 now, right? So at this point in my life, I've actually spent more time in the United States than I have in the country of my birth because I left England when I was 17 years old. I was born there. I did all my schooling there. I grew up there pretty much. You know what I mean? I came here after I got a record deal. I got a record deal at 16. And then I came here when I was like 17. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Did you as Slick Rick grew up in the Bronx? I think he might have came even younger than you. He came when he was a toddler. He must have came when he was like four or five or something like that because we didn't even... In England, we developed our own scene based on what was happening in the United States. At the time, we watched wild style movies. We watched break dance. We watched Beach Street. We were enthralled and totally absorbed into the culture to the point where we created our own pseudo-hip hop scene in England and all the surrounding areas and then all the way in all the countries in Europe. That's how much in love with the culture that came from the United States that we were. So we didn't even know that we could embrace Slick Rick as our own when we were listening to Slick Rick on the radio. We didn't realize. And then we started to realize, oh, wow, he's originally from here as in the UK. And then we realized, oh, he's one of us. But he must have moved to the United States when he was five or something like that because it's not like he grew up and we came to know of Slick Rick in England before coming to America. Growing up in London, right? Because we have guests all the time, legends and all that. Everybody's story is similar but unique. Right? How the hell did somebody discover Money Love in England and give her a record deal at 16 and you come over here and it pops off? Yeah. So the first record deal that I signed was in England. Like I said, we fell in love with the culture from watching movies and also getting like 10th generation cassette tapes of radio shows recorded. You know what I'm saying? Like we would listen to Red Alert and stuff like that but it would sound like eggs and bacon cooking when we're listening to it because it's like been dubbed a good 15 times. A lot of air in it. You know what I mean? And so we fell in love with the culture. We created our own scene and then we started putting on our own little shows in England as young teenagers, you know? And then at the same time, it was blowing up in the United States. So record companies in England started to see what was happening in England and they wanted to sign their own artists also. So a lot of us were getting record deals in England. You know, so I got my first record deal with Chrysalis Records, which was latest swallowed by EMI Records. But Chrysalis Records is where I had my original deal and that was at 16 years old. My parents had to sign my recording contract and you know my dad. Yeah. Okay? You met my dad at the Palladium, right? In New York. There's a whole other story I'll tell you, right? Yeah. Great day. My dad, my making Rastafarian father looked at this contract and was like, I wear this and was like, I'm not saying this. This is how I wear this. I'm not contracting this. Like my dad was not impressed. It took some going back and forth with another attorney to straighten out some stuff that my dad was looking at before my father. In other days, nothing was straight. Even if you had ten attorneys on this. It was terrible. God, it robbed everybody at the big air. It was terrible. It was terrible. And then it looked like... Everybody. He did not get robbed. Every... I could break down Missy Allie. I could break down... Charlie Raleigh got robbed and he went and robbed them over there. This... Everybody got robbed and robbed and robbed and robbed. Rob base got robbed. Who? Rob base. Did he? Did he? I don't know. I never said Rob base. Yeah, no, I just... Well, you know I used to be on the 130 second air and the heat from the projects right there. What's that? On the 130 second air park, Rob base is from there. Okay. No, Rob base is from Harlem, man. I'm true Tom Fallon. 132nd, bro. Do, do, do, do, do, do. I used to see Rob base where he was like the biggest in the world. Harlem, man. Harlem, bro. No, Rob base is from Harlem. Don't do that. Yo, kids, man, we in fucking London, you sidetracked us to Harlem with Rob. How we get to Harlem from here? You sidetracked us. I've talked too much. How do you come over here? Well. And you select with the legendary native tongues and that that happened. How did you get into that crew right there? So Dave Klein, that used to work for Theft Jam, God rest his soul, was like an ambassador and used to bring artists from the United States to England and the surrounding European countries to do many tours. And he bought over Queen Latifa and the Jungle Brothers on one particular tour. There was Queen Latifa, the Jungle Brothers, Ture Rob, Jean, True Mathematics. They all came over to do a mini tour. They went to Germany first and then on a tour bus on a ferry came over to London and then was doing shows in London. I was at one of those shows and I had built like a reputation for myself in London. You know, there's this girl coming up. She's from South London. She's dope, blah, blah, blah. And I was at this show. So the guy that run the club introduced me to Dave Klein and then Dave Klein who was with Latifa and Jungle Brothers and stuff. And Dave Klein introduced me to Jungle Brothers, Queen Latifa, the other groups that were there. And that's when me and Latifa first met. And that's when me and the Jungle Brothers first met. And the Jungle Brothers Tribecaw quest and Daylight Soul are the three head groups of the native tongues. So whatever they say is going to happen as far as native tongues and who's going to be a part of it, that's what goes. And from me in Africa and rhyming to Latifa, rhyming to Africa, them getting a gist of who I am and that I was indeed dope. And so then they were like, yes, she's going to be down. We're going to put her down. And it was during that trip that Latifa was like, we're going to do a song together at some point. And then it was eight months later that me and Latifa recorded Ladies First at Powerplay Studios in Queens. What does Ladies First mean to you? For me, when we did Ladies First, it was, I'm here. I'm rhyming on this. This is dope. And I'm going to spit. And it's going to be dope. That's what it was for me. Latifa had a bigger plan when she invited me to do Ladies First. She had a bigger plan. And now in hindsight, when we do shows together, because we still do shows together, Latifa is like a mad scientist where she'll call me yo-yo like a rage, like out the blue. And it'll be like we form Voltron. She'll be like, what are you doing such a such a day? All right, let me call yo-yo. What are you doing? What are you doing? Like, what are you doing, Rage? And we'd be like that. We're with it. And we'll just all go out to wherever Latifa is and we'll form Voltron and get on stage and do this like two hour ensemble show. Crazy. Which is crazy. But Latifa always seems to have this like this mad scientist mindset where she knows what she's doing. So back then we were 18 years old recording Ladies First. We were actually in our late 17th year. So we didn't turn 18 yet. Right? Recording Ladies First. Very mature track. Very mature track. And she knew what she was doing. I'm just the rowdy one that's the you know the drama hauling that's just happy to be here. But she knew she wanted to do something that made sense that spoke to women as far as big ups to women, strengthening women, fisting the air for women's type vibes. She knew that's what she wanted to do. So once she gave me the gist of, all right, this is where we going with it. I was like, cool. So we're in our respective corners, right, in the studio. So I write a verse. This is how excited I was. I would write a verse, right? And then be like, la, la, listen to this. Listen to this. Go over to her corner and be like, and then say to Rahm, right? She'd be like, yo, that's dope. I'll be like, and then she'll kick me hers. I'll be like, yo, that's dope. We run back to our respective corners. We write another eight bars. Yo, yo, yo, listen to this. Come back to each other. I spit the next eight bars. She spit the next eight bars. Excited as ever. We did the whole session like that. The whole session was just electric. Yeah, they losing that. Now they send you shit to Colorado. Yo. Yeah, yeah, it's not in your face no more. It's not that energy. I forgot who came up here and was like, yo, we was in the, I think it was Daylight. So somebody was up there and it was like, they was together. They was just jumping in and rapping. Like, you know, when I did Flojo, I didn't even know what punching in was. It was real. So I did the whole Flojo without punching in. And they was there. And when the hook came, we got to Flojo. You just come in there, help me say that. I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. Make it stronger. I'm glad you brought up Flojo. I bet that you have absolutely no idea how we, especially us Native tongues, looked at you and loved you and was so excited for you when you first came out. Because there's a huge bloodline between you and Native tongues. I bet you didn't even know that. I don't want to hear it. How do we know? Give him me goosebumps. You're Chris's artist. That's right. Chris was our road manager before he made any business moves as far as having an office, as far as having violator records, as far as having, I mean, I'm getting choked up just thinking about this right now. Chris was our road manager. Chris was one of the violators as far as red alerts, posse. That's who the violators are on. You know what I'm saying? I remember us walking all of Native tongues, all the groups, Deila, Jungle, Tribe, Me, Latifah, walking into a venue one night. This is how the violators and the Bronx, this is me coming from England. I'm looking all of this like, yo, are we being road managed by the mafia? What's going on right now? Because the violators walk up in the venue with these long leather tough trenches and the belts, sit us in a room, all the groups like I just named sit us in a room, wait here. Nobody touches a mic. Nobody shows their face to the public. Nobody does nothing until we get this bread, stay in this room. Violators walk up, Chris walks off, couple of them stay with the rest of us. Chris comes back, everybody out. Huh? We not performing? Nope, everybody out. Right? And basically what that is is if we get in the building and the venue money ain't right, Chris is like, nobody's touching a mic. Nobody's touching nothing. The promoters are looking at, it's your Jungle brothers, it's Deila, Solis, Tribe, Corkwax, everybody's here. This show's going to be crazy. You can't, they going to tear my club up. Chris is like, that's not my problem. You ain't got my money right. Everybody out. Chris has always been thorough, so it was no surprise to me that he then made his business moves and created Violator Records. And then when he put you out, we're all looking at you like, that's our little brother. That's our little brother. We are super proud of him. Look at this. Wow. You know, the man put me on, man. He changed my life. You know, he came, I was in the streets, saw me and what was crazy now that you saying that, right? Because I know Chris from the streets. Every time I did an album, because he was involved with my first three albums, even though I wasn't signed to him for Don Carter Gina, we still had this ritual. We sit in the car and I play in the album. If it wasn't gangster, Chris ain't going to hear, he'd be like, yo, if I had your gangster fuck that, I need some shit. Yo, yo, he used to sit there. I don't think he ever wanted me to be commercial. He'd be like, yo, in fact, you're the gangster. I need the hard shit sitting there. Yeah, yeah, this that shit. He was just so proud of us. You know, like everybody, you know, like DJ Khaled was terror squad. Then he went and made we the best. So if you, if you're about the culture and you really love your brothers, you get happy for them. You know, D-Block from Rough Rocks. So even though I went and did my own thing, Chris Slighty would come to the album release for Big Pond. Now he felt like you saying, yo, that's our little brother. He don't know it. He would show up when they saying Fat Joe's the terror squad, the big, the Don, he would always show up. And he'd be like, yo, I'm proud of you. And then walk out the joint. You know what I'm saying? Russell Simmons was like that too. Russell Simmons, every time we did some terror squad album release or something, he comes show his cheekbone for two minutes. Yeah. It's a flag. This is it. Is it good on that? Yeah. You good on that? You know, they got these things here that you could throw whenever you get upset or whatever. Moni's chilling, man. She ain't down with that shit. You know what I mean? Do I have that? Yeah, you have it. Everybody has it. I do. Okay. Okay. The way they usually do it is any guest that comes, they tell you ahead of time before we record. Joe says some dumb shit, throw it at him. He'll say Jadakiss. They say Fat Joe's going to say some dumb shit, throw it at him. That was originally made for you. Flag on the plate. I want to say this because you see how hip hop and the game evolved with female MCs now became almost like, it became like civil. They have a choke hold on the game for a nice amount of time. But when you seem like native tongues time, it was very protective of you and Lyne, whoever. Even the females that wasn't native tongues, it seemed like, I don't know, is it the money, is it the success of now or that changed? Even though some, it's still, we going to make sure the females is always good if we somewhere at Remediesdale or anybody. Yeah. That's just because we from a different cloth, but I'm talking about as the game. Hip hop as a whole now is when the females is rocking, it's just like the females not, you see what I'm saying? They segregated the game. I think I know what you're saying. Are you saying that like, you've noticed that a lot of the successful women seem to be kind of just like rolling and not necessarily with their male brothers and counterparts like it used to kind of be like families rolling like, you know what I'm saying? Like that. Is that more or less what you're saying? That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I definitely think that women do have a really strong choke hold on the forefront of the game right now. Like I really do see that. I can't be mad at it. I think that there's just a lot more independent artists, not independent artists like putting independent records out. I mean, just independent entities. It's less kind of like family rolling. You know what I'm saying? You're a crew. You got Remy and it's all a yaw. You know what I'm saying? And you're rolling like that. It's native and it's me a lot and we're rolling like that. It's more, yeah, you're right. It is more independent. I think it's more individualism entities like that. You know what I was thinking about? We're in Miami for the big college game. We're in Indiana. Incredible experience. Incredible to understand. I'm standing on the sideline and I see all the legends, right? And they amping up these kids. These kids are what, 18, 19th? And something that came to me, do you think they watched footage of these legends? Like a young kid, 18, 19, does he go back and says, why is this OG keeps screaming at me, telling me what to do? Nah, they know. Do they go to the video tape? I think the coaches, coach Richard and them will show them tapes and then the ones that want to make it, they really want to see who they forefathers was at that position. Last time they won the chip. Who was the best at this particular position? The thing is, it starts here, right? The females, do they go back and be like, when they listen to us, we'll be like, y'all, Mody's a legend. A lot of people say, do they go back and say, let me check out what they were doing at that time? Okay. So do y'all think that the younger, the newer guys do that? I think certain ones. Like they called me the interview guy at the gestation. That's why I asked you that. I actually know everything, every one of your projects, everything from live, everything from somebody like that. Who? You want to come again? Absolutely. And that's why she's an anomaly. A fact. Well, you asked me to get you one. No, but that's what I'm got. The reason why I'm not going to get a flag right now. I get a flag. I get a flag. But that's why I asked you that specifically because you said, key thing that you said is some, that's the key. Some. You know what I'm saying? Because I think that the viral explosion and just the bigness of the internet and social media and everything has allowed a lot of folks to feel like, a lot of folks that's been here a lot less time to feel like they know everything. And so that's why it's some people do their research. And I say that not to be snotty or snotty or anything like that. I say it because in any field, not just music and any field and any business and any occupation, it behooves a person to know what came before them because it helps them to do what they do even better. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to learn everything from your own accord. You can learn some stuff from some other people. That's why it's called research. Life. It's there in my life. You know what I'm saying? You know, in fact, Joe's wicked way of thinking. You know, a guy like Floyd Mayweather, his uncle, his father were champs. And Floyd Mayweather became Dad Nights. Well, Floyd watched a lot of tape. I watched one fight where he was doing the Florida. He was losing like six rounds in a row. I think some Mexican guy was on it. He switched up the whole style like in the seventh round and just he started doing some other shit. He beat the guy senseless for the rest of the fight. When they interviewed him, he was like, yo, I mean, he was ready for me and I switched up the Jack Dempsey. You know, like I thought about the fight Jack Dempsey. I don't know if it was Jack Dempsey, but he said one of them old guys and he was like, yo, from watching the film, I had to figure out who I had to fight like to beat this guy. Because if I'm just straight up Floyd Mayweather, he got my number. So about the sixth round, he just switched the whole style up on him. And it was like, killed him. Like killed him. But he was like, and I remember I was looking, I said, damn, he really watches the footage. Chase and point, that's it right there. And you talking, and that was a beautiful analogy because you talking about, about boxing, which is another fine art within itself. And I'm saying it makes sense. You know what I'm saying? And to bring it back to hip hop, how you think when, when the DJ battles were going down, right? Back in the days. How you think they got nice enough to be able to get to the world final championships and go up against each other is because they're all sitting watching tapes. I said it in another interview one time, they're sitting. Clark Kent would sit in his basement and have some of us sit there in his basement and watch video tapes of other DJs and their routines. And see, look, you see when Jazzy Jeff did this right here, Moni, you see, and I'm sitting there like, I'm going to see why am I here? You know what I'm saying? Y'all are DJs. Why am I here? No, but I'm trying to show you something because Clark Kent did make me learn how to DJ. Yeah, he taught you how to DJ. Yes. Yes. I want to shout out Rock Raider, Rest in Peace Rock. And that's what I'm saying. That's another one. That's another one. Yeah, give it up. That's another one. That's another one right there. You like, you like. He did the scratches on Flojo. See Raider was like downward digging in the crates. Absolutely. I don't know exactly how, but he was downward us. And whenever we needed scratches, I'd be like, yo, he was the coolest guy in the world. And Rock Raider's nasty. Rock Raider was nasty. Like I know this. I remember this. You're not a fan. Why he telling that shit. You're not a fan. And he was smiling while he doing the moves and the routines. Like Rock Raider was like super smooth. And so it was the same thing with MCing. Same thing. For me, I used to listen to set it off by Big Daddy Kane, like how singers have people that they do the scales with. Singers and trainers that be, you know, let's do the scales and stuff like that to get their voices right. I used to listen to Big Daddy Kane set it off to get myself right because it was a choppy thing. Let it go. Get bold. I just can't hold. You know what I'm saying? And I would be doing that. Rock the disco take and screw this. What's next? You know what I'm saying? Get your mouth right. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I developed a style to be on something. Excuse me, but I think I'm about to get into precisely what I am about to do. I'm concentrating to the folks who have no what's the weather clue. So listen very carefully as I break it down for you. Mary Mary, Mary Mary, Mary Mary. You know what I'm saying? No doubt. To bring it back to what you're saying. Absolutely. The study of what comes before you is what helps to make you great at what you do in any field. And Clark forced you to learn how to DJ. What did you take with that? It gave me a deeper respect for hip hop in itself because I started in London when we first embraced the culture. I wasn't rhyming at first. I was breaking. I was a big girl. Big girl. No doubt. Me too. Right? So it allowed me to embrace another element of the culture when Clark was like, no, you're going to learn. You're going to learn how to bring a record back. You're going to learn how to recognize it. Here, I put the tape markings on it. That's the one. Bring it back to the one. Flip the fader. Bring it back to the one. Flip the fader. Put the earphones on one side. Have the other ear kind of open so you can hear what's going on. Bring it back. Flip the fader. Bring it back. Flip the fader. You know what I'm saying? Cut it back. Cut, cut, cut, cut. Taught me around. I just did a train. I know you did. I ate a train the other day. The New York City train. The other day. Yeah, we snuck in the dog. With a kid? Huh? I'm like, man, you don't know I'm a graffiti. I watch you do when you shit. No! I'm going to show you the pictures. I ate a train the other day. Me and Bayo, but listen. So graffiti. Some of the best boys came out the bar. One thing I try to do is DJ and that sucked. I've never, ever successfully, nowhere. You all used to go to Surge House every day and I just sucked. Like there's nothing. I can't DJ. But you can't write. Huh? But you can't graph. You write. Tag. You can't write. Okay, well then you got two. I got two. You was a B-boy. Three guys. You was a B-boy. I was a great dancer. Yeah, I still got. You was a B-boy. I still get on the floor. We got fluid in you. I mean, I still got fluid. Yeah, I got women and stuff. Listen. Today's show brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. I'm a big fan of Heartland. 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Do you think your career would have been super amplified more now that there's social media? Honestly, I think any of us, any of us from my era or y'all, because I'm the big sister. Y'all are my little brothers. You know what I mean? So go back to me, go back to your big sister and all of my set. I think we all had the platform of all of these platforms now. Absolutely, everything would have just been magnified for sure. You know what I mean? That's a fact. And who do you think there's a female artist that does social media well uses it now and you be like, man, she know how to play that game. Oh, we all know that's Cardi. Cardi does, yeah. I mean, that's a no-brainer. I have enough of Cardi utilize. Absolutely. That's a no-brainer. She could wake up first thing in the morning and don't even be any of her outfits yet. And it's a top post. Because there's always a level of relatability in there. You know what I mean? She just, without even trying. I always said people loved her first and then she made great music and then is out again. I think that's really that employment. Yeah. And then she just hit it out the box with that Bode Act yellow. We did like her first. Thank you for saying that. I did like her first before anything. Yeah, I did. And what's really cool for me about Cardi is regardless of the fact that she's not my age group, right? So some people would be like, well, how do you relate to Cardi B at all? For me, it's her mothering. She has her whatever gripes she's having that morning about being a mom or the kids doing this or acting up or whatever. Oh, I got to get this. And kids making little remarks in the background, I get it. Because when I look at it, I'm like, oh my God. And then I'll say to my daughter who's in here, right? I'll be like, Shalena, look at this. You remember when I used to, you guys used to say things and embarrass me. And then I used to do this relatable moments in her parent world. For me. And I had four kids, you know what I'm saying? At her age, I didn't know, no, Cardi, Cardi beat me a little bit. I spread mine out a little bit more. She moved. But I do have the same amount of kids as well. Cardi might try the next week. I'm pregnant again, guys. I think she's the first female that ever intentionally got pregnant in her prime. And still worked and went on tour. Pregnant. Still popped in. So intentionally? Maybe. But first, no. That was me. And you can pull up the tape from our studio. You can pull up the tape from... You was pregnant on our show. Hell yeah. I was on Showtime at the Apollo talking about Mone in the middle. Really in the middle. Mone in the middle. Really in the middle. That's a fun fact. Pull the tape up. I'm glad you said that because that's another reason, one of my early reasons why I relate it to Cardi. Because when she was pregnant that first time and came out and was on stage and publicly and everything, I was like... Because I understood it. Because I was there. I was in that exact position on stage, front, doing everything. On our studio hall. The thing they used to do in hip-hop, and they probably still do it, that's why I hate these people. The business always got like a stereotype that a female artist can't have a voice. Oh no, they shamed us. They shamed us. Especially in my time. They shamed us. Like the record label... I was signed to it, Chris List in England, but I was signed to Warner Brothers for the United States and Canada. And I was pretty much without them actually saying it. I was three months pregnant with my daughter that's in here. My oldest one now, right? She's 34. I was three months pregnant with her and the label reps were like, well, what are you going to do? And I was like, I said I'm three months pregnant. What do you mean what I'm going to do? Well, you know, what are you going to do? And I'm like, it means I'm having a baby. Like, what do you think it means? Like they telling you taking abortion, huh? You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to say it without saying it. You know what I'm saying? The record rep at the time. And I was just like... I was 19. Very sexist business. Because it was that summer around my birthday that I found out, right? And so she was born right before I turned 21, right? Because I was 20 when I found out I was pregnant. So by the time I turned 21, she was here. I thought back to the time and I'm like, I'm so glad I made that this. Like there's nothing... it would have never went any other way. You know what I'm saying? And my kid... My daughter has asked me that before. She's like, Mom, do you think that you would have did it any differently if you had not had kids so early? And I was like, no. If it happened all over again, I would have did it the same way all over again. It wasn't a question for me. And that, again, bringing it back to Cardi is another reason why she spoke to me. And that's why I took a liking to that. She took power into her own hands. Because I'm sure they were telling that. You're a sick little imbo. You're a sick. You're a that. And she was like, no, I'm pregnant. I'm outside. No, because... Billy outside. Women were having babies, but they were hiding it. Yeah. Right? It was on tour. I was on tour until I was seven months pregnant. I was on the triple threat tour. Bellevue DeVaux, Keith Sweatt and Johnny Gill. Wow. And I opened up for them until I was seven months pregnant. You know, the workflow, it continues. The workflow continues. Did you ever think you would lead into getting into radio? No. How did that happen? That was an accident. Do y'all remember Steve Smith? Yes. God rest his soul, because he passed away. He passed away. Steve Smith actually is the person that created Hop 97 as what it was. The voice. The flagship in the first place. Right? He called my manager one day, and by that time he had had certain people in place already at the station. It was newly flipped. And she was there already. She was there with the house music. Exactly. She was already there. And I think she worked her way up. She's like foundational at that station. Right? Flex was there already. And I think they had Ed and Dre on in the morning. And Steve Smith called my manager one day and was like, oh, do you think you could come in and take a meeting with me and, you know, to discuss maybe Moni Love being on the radio. So my manager came from England with me. My manager's name is Steve. Right? Which is outside of London. So we went, he didn't tell me what we were going there for. And the sat spoke to Steve Smith. He was like, what do you think about being on the radio? And I was like, I am on the radio. My music's played on the radio. Right? And he was like, no, being an actual radio personality. I was like, like a disc jockey. Like, why would I want to do that? And he was like, I think you have a really good personnel. I was like, yeah, but I'm on the other side getting interviewed by the disc jockey. I don't see myself as a disc jockey. Right? He's like, let me teach you. Let me help you get your FCC license. What's an FCC license nowadays, huh? Nobody needs an FCC license to be on the radio now. But back then you had to have an FCC license. So I trained on air in the unsociable hours so nobody could hear me because there was a lot of mess ups. And as a matter of fact, myself and Miss Jones, we were training at the same time together. So I was like, I'm going to be on the radio. I'm going to be on the radio. And I was like, I'm going to be on the radio. And I was like, I'm going to be on the radio. I was meeting at the same time together on the radio at like 2 o'clock in the morning talking about our love lives and how we can't stand these men not realizing the microphone was on. This is the type of mistakes we were making on air at 2 o'clock in the morning as we trained to get our FCC licenses. You know what I'm saying? So bottom line, we got our FCC license. I got mine and then I was on weekends on hot 97, Tracy Clowarty that was working underneath. Remember Tracy? Yeah, I remember. She used to put me on all the time when Angie went on vacation, or whenever Wendy went on vacation, I was the go-to. Like we need you to work two weeks, Wendy's going on vacation for her birthday or whatever it is, we need you to work. Or Angie's taking off for vacation, we need you to work. Angie doesn't want anybody else interviewing her guests, but you can do it. Angie said she trusts you, blah, blah, blah. So that's how I got my chops in radio, you know? And then I was at Hot 97 for 10 years. I was there for 10 years, and the year that I left and went over to Power 101 was when Steve Smith, been left Hot 97, went away for a little while, came back, and then created Power 101. Yeah, and then I got hired over there. And the year that my first year of working there was the year when there was a lot of mess happening between Hot 97 and Power 101 that involved Jay-Z, that involved Nas, that involved some new hanging thing that was supposed to happen. Turning Power to Switch. The first thing they was doing at Power is they was making the hardest duties. Formos that said, I made- Switch. That was crazy. You gotta understand, Hot 97 in the whole country was known like the first full hip hop station, and they had so much power and leverage in this market. Think about New York City. Didn't have two stages. It was just Hot 97 and when Power opened up, the first thing was like, you're lost, come here. Say you made this switch. As an artist, you were scared because Hot 97 was saying, you could go over there, but if you say you made the switch, don't come back here. Don't come back. I mean, it was a real, you know, you know, New York City. It was so serious. I wasn't, I wasn't, I was the power of five one still going to summer jam. Like I was chilling. The kid, my daughter was in here, right? Teen at that time. We're going, I'm going to summer jam. She wants to go, I got her tickets. We go, we're sitting in the stands watching the show. Okay, styles is on stage doing, I get it, ha, ha, ha, right? Every day, my daughter's next to me. I get it, ha, I was like, what? Hey public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public public I'm like, but it was serious. Like the beef in what also happened, you know, what also happened was because I'm a prime example of that. My like prime example. I had like if I had beef for 50 cent and somebody I thought I was cool with or I gave an opportunity or I put in the game, rocked with them in any way. I was tight. I was like, yo, we not rocking no more. We not, you know, it's over. Like this thing, you got to pick a side. And I just think all of that biggie, two pack, all that, who's the first time that type of stuff is happening. And we didn't really know how to react. Now when I look at a hip hop beef, I've seen it 40 times a bit. So I already know how this thing's going to play out, whether in a good way, on a bad way, you know, back in the day, somebody ditch you, you have to jump out. You didn't have to, but that's how it was. You jump out. Now you got eight guys dissing the all 50 cent. Guess what? He didn't put gas in the car. He said, I ain't even talking about. Don't get anywhere the way, you know, but that's after years of watching rap, beats unfold and what happens and this and this and that. That's after experience. But when that first came out, it was like 97 was the only show in town. The Nas is up there and what are we going to do? The world is. You know what I wanted to ask you? I know it was real when the label, the label, drop a single or drop a project, they send you the hot 97, they do whatever they do. Boom, boom, boom. Then they patch on the back. Well, you got your own relationship with power and then go, you take the. What the fuck is that? That's what I would. That's what I wanted to ask you. You're literally telling me you only support me over at this and I got to go hand. Lou, that's the fuck. That's what I wanted to ask you to because at that time it was different for me because I had transitioned into being on radio. By that time I was I was being on air 11, 12 years. So I had transitioned. You guys were still actively putting music out. So how was that for you? I've always been a boss. So like I've always worked my own records. I've always worked like, you know, it was different for me. Even towards halfway during my career, I had like distribution deals. I didn't have way I got a I'm signed to the label. So the thing I knew, I knew the real politics. Like I still know the real politics. So the real politics is yeah, hot 97 is the grandfather of this shit and they run it. And we got to be a little bit loyal to them because they did put us in the game. They play flow Joe first. So we got to be like that. But they were also telling me Power 105 is owned by a company that owns 40 other radio stations. So if you try to front on Power 105, they will not play your shit in America. So now what do you want? You want to keep it real with hot 97? Meanwhile, you got. Call it what it is. You got dictators like Ibro on fucking hot 97 like you don't come here. We run this show. He people like that. I knew what I know. So I need my water now. Hold on. Hold on. I need my yeah. Yeah, I need my water now. People. This is the you just now I'm getting a hot flash. You just bought some other shit on. Right. It's all because you didn't have. No, I'm just trying to say that people like that were like trying to control the game, you know, almost like in a muscle way, but without flexing the muscle. But just like, you know, we won't play your shit. We've got the number one station with this, this, that. And he was quick to be like, yo, matter of fact, we don't. You seen that interview when the man told Kodak Black, who's the hottest guy in the world. You don't even get out of here if you want. Leave. Like he was bigger than Kodak Black. Like they was. I'm not single in our e-book because there was a lot of that shit there. When they felt like, yo, we perfed y'all this. We got to them and then y'all going over there. But what they was up against, what they didn't realize is that that station came with 40 other stations. So it was like, do you want to be the hottest on 97, which we all know and loved? Or you want to get played in 40 other stations. Now, if you go over here, you say, fuck power, you're done in the country. It was that type of shit going on. Right. And so you had to find a way to finagle both situations. It was hard. That's what I thought. It was just really, really, really hard. And it's not fair because y'all... Not favors, but you had to do... We just want to make... That's what I'm saying. Y'all, as the artist, you shouldn't have to worry about that. You shouldn't have to worry about that. Should just be creating the art and then let that rock and then bring it to the cities and perform. It shouldn't have to worry about the politics of the radio stations, which none of us own shares in. You know what I'm saying? So that's what... And that is my mind. So what you say, he says, say it slow, huh? Talk slow to them. Yeah, that's like motherfuckers dying over the hood talking about this my block. They don't own shit. Not even the shit they live in. You know, but that is why bringing it back to me being at the concert when that was happening and that whole thing was happening on air on power with Nas and all of that, you know, that's why I... You just thinking, yo, I just got a better job, but we're still family. I worked with y'all for ten years. Exactly. And my daughter wanted to come to Summer Jam. Like... I knew that shit was a prock of shit when I went to one of them and the other one had a little radio over there playing the other one, then the other one had a little radio. Oh, they was listening to whatever? Yeah, they did. Yeah, they did. Go to power, they got a little radio tuned in to Hot 97, you go over there, everybody's watching. Simone, tell me a couple of female artists that you respect their contributions to the game, you know, from day one till now. Oh, I love this question. Okay. Pebbley Poo. I love me some Pebbley Poo because when I first came here and people in this country first started hearing me rhyme, a lot of the elders at that time, when I was a baby in the game, told me that I remind them of Pebbley Poo. And so I started listening to her and she instantly was like one of my favorites. Roxanne Chantay put the battery in my back. Because she was fearless. She was fearless. She'd take on anyone, anywhere, anytime, doesn't matter. So watching her and listening to her, that gave me the courage that I needed to leave, to leave the bathroom and not stop being a toothbrush in the mirror wrapper. She put the battery in my back, I would say that. Sort and pepper to me, all of the girls that are that embrace their bodies in their image today, to me, took a page out of Sort and Peppers book. Oh man, Sort and Peppers. Because they were really, yeah, they were the. We need Sort and Peppers on the show. Oh, that's for sure. Shout out to Sort. They're just happening all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need to come. They, they beyond legendary. Yeah, yeah. And then of course my immediate sister's like, like, I went to school with like, what? I went to George Wingate High School in Brooklyn. With MC Light. Yes. She was a superstar, very young. She was a superstar then when I was going to high school with her. Yes, she was a superstar. She was riding. Yeah, going to high school. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And on Friday nights, get, get special ability to be able to be that young and be able to walk up in Latin quarters and all of that. Chillish. Oh, I was so jealous. I would fear this very much. She was with her world. Like, she had that. She was, she was a kid, phenom, MC. Wow. Yeah. MC, MC Light. Yeah, yeah, but is that around the time Special Lab was killing? Yo, Special Lab was special like, remember we used to think he had like a fake hand, right? Who used to think Special Lab had fake hands? Yeah, Special Lab was in a room when they had that in the start of. I was kidding. Yeah, but he always had his hand inside. You was down with him. He had his hand inside in the video for I Got It Made because they filmed it in winter at Grand Army Plaza. That's when they first, that was the beginning of. It was in the old. That was the beginning of. That's still on aisle three. Yo. I didn't know that. That's crazy. So like, man, Light is just incredible. I like what she's at. Yeah. Life. Yeah. Where her voice, she's doing voiceovers now for movies, sports shows, everything. And she's producing and directed movies. A lot of stuff. Yeah. She was that kid back then that was just like, you still in high school and you tearing up a club on a Friday night. Like what? Yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like was, and I didn't tell her that I could rhyme. I was at George W. W. Gait High School for like six months. My mother moved here. I was living at my grandparents' house on East 28th Street between Clarendon and Cotillu in Brooklyn. And I went to high school and I met Light and we were cool. But I did not tell her that I could rhyme because I'm like, would she comes to school on a Monday with stories about being up in the same club as Big Daddy came getting on stage after him? What do I have to say? I have nothing. I'm not telling her that I even utter a word much less. It wasn't until I went to England and then she came over there doing shows and obviously knew me because we went to high school and then I told her, I also do this. Wow. Yeah, you know, it was then and then, you know, we got tight as far as on the artistic level or so. So that was pretty cool. But yeah, she was that kid. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the ones that I would honestly say influenced me, put the battery in my back, gave me the gusto, allowed me to feel brave to enter this world. You know, those would definitely be the ones that I would be. It was your exact, big, chum go. Let's go. 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You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the I Heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, your first big show. Yo, my first big show was at the New Music Seminar when I performed Ladies First with Latissa for the first time. It was at some high school in Manhattan somewhere because the New Music Seminar happened every year at the Marriott Marquis Hotel. Exactly. All the labels had all their top artists or new artists that they wanted to showcase and show off. DJ battles. DJ battles. World's supremacy. That makes sense to me. On love, it's going to see, Clark Kent had a battle and we was online and he had my vinyl for my album. I'm like, you're my man. My album wasn't even out for like four months after. I'm like, how do you get the vinyl? He was like, yo, I'm a DJ. We came tight from there. That's it. So way before that, because you got to remember, I'm old compared to you young ins, right? I did performance in New Music Seminar and that's when Latissa performed because Tommy Boy was putting her as one of their new artists at the time to perform in a showcase, a Tommy Boy showcase. So I was there, I performed and I never will forget that Guru ran up to me at the end of the performance. It was the first time I ever performed Ladies First. I hadn't heard Ladies First for six months after it was recorded until the day I had to perform it on stage with Latissa at that show. Shaqim shoved me in the bathroom with a... Recording. Walkman. Walkman. With a Walkman. With a Walkman. Walkman said, just listen to it over and over and over. We go on in 10 minutes. What? And that's what I did and I was scared and I didn't want to come out the bathroom special ed with then knocking the... Yo, Mony, you got to come out. You got to come out. I'm like, I'm going to crap myself. I'm so scared. Got up, went into autopilot, performed it, tore it down. Latissa tore it down when she did Ladies First and bought me out. Tore it down, right? Guru ran up. Ran up to me. And said, what? Yo, I didn't know you could rhyme like that. And that was like so special to me that Guru did that. That's actually why on my EP, this out now, I redid skills. But Emile did the hook. Mmm, buddy. Yeah. All right, you got out of retirement. Emile did the hook on that. What's the name of the latest project? It's called Love Notes. Yeah, Love Notes. It's everybody out there. Love Notes. But that's a tribute to Guru. Why? And that's the only reason why Emile did it is for hip hop because it was a tribute to Guru. That's the only reason why she did it because she flat out was, I'm not messing with this no more, Mo. I'm so far removed from any of this. I'm not. And so she was like, the only reason why I'm doing this, Mo, is for you and for Guru and for hip hop. And that's the only reason why she got on that hook. I respect that. Shout out to my brother. I love him. Yeah, man. That was a tribute to him. You know, shout out to Elav. I love Koojay the Camp. They lost some brothers. Yeah, I gotta do it. That was special. That was the point. In every video, we knew this is E. You know what I'm saying? So rest in peace to E. You know, that's crazy because the way you just did that, that's how I always looked at Eric Beach. I thought he was the originator. I thought he was the originator. He might be the originator of Ice Grill though. He was the originator of Ice Grill. He was one of the originators of Fly. They had all the jury on. He was the first one with like, I don't know. I'm just saying because sometimes when I say like historical facts, Melly Mellor coming to DM, somebody's coming and be like, y'all. Somebody come for you? Because like you said, Joe's our little brother. Everybody feels like that. So if I say something and the time line is accurate or something like that, they'll hit me. Which reminds me, since you say this. I'm fried, Mona. Don't debate me on it. He go right to the fire with it. I get it wrong all the time. No, but listen, let me just give everybody the quick synopsis, right? So I love this show, right? So I watched the show and I saw Joe say something one day when he was like, you know, when Dale I was on here and I was like, and Joe was like, you know, I wish he would have came out with something on her own. And I was like, I was at a radio station event for the station up because I'm on kiss 104.1 in Atlanta from three to seven on weekdays every day. So I was actually at an event for the station when I saw the clip. So I hit pause, but wait, pause looks so confused in the clip, right? Because it's like, he's thinking about it. So then I was like, I filmed myself saying, Joe, come on, Joe. I was like, come on, Joe. Let me explain it to you. The part you're missing is that I called you phenomenal super with no, I didn't miss none of that. Oh, no, you still know I didn't miss none of that. I didn't miss none of that. I was just like, I'm going to get him in his ribs. I was like, I'm going to get Joey in his ribs. I got that message from you. I was confused. No, because I'm going to get the thermos and 1.45 blue jeans and I'm like, I said, I worship only love. No, I get it. Let me let me make it make sense for your viewers, right? Why don't you tell them when you first moved to Miami? I am going to. Let me make it make see that stand out is how far Joe goes back with me, right? Let me make it make sense to your viewers. So I filmed myself after I saw that clip and I was like, come on, Joe, we going to help you out. I had two albums out, Joe. I'm going to help you out. We going to help you out, right? Like that. Now, to the average person that doesn't know our history, that doesn't know our connection and it's fair. I don't expect everybody to know, right? That's fair. But the one thing that I do not like about the viral explosion and social media platforms is that it has given way to a false sense of entitlement. So each. So people get on and their thumbs become gangsterized. Right. And they start to type all this craziness, right? Now, granted, you don't know how far this man and I go back. You don't know this man is like a little brother to me. You don't know that my ex-road manager that passed away and created so much avenues for several artists in hip hop culture. Period. Right. Was my road manager put this young man on the map? So he's special to me. You don't know all of that, right? See, little gangsta thumbs get on on Instagram and start to say all kinds of wild stuff, right? Thumbs, right? Say all kinds of wild stuff to me, right? About how I'm speaking to Joey. You don't get to tell me how I speak to Joey because that's my little brother. And if you have a little brother in your household that may have skipped something, missed something in your opinion and you want to get him in his ribs, you can do that. Joey and his family looked out for me and my family when we first moved to Miami. I had no radio job. I left Philly. I didn't I was doing radio in Philly. I left Philly. I went to Miami with my kids. I left a bad relationship in Philly, picked up my kids, went to Miami with nothing but my kids and whatever we had, whatever we could have, right? No radio job, no shows, no nothing happening, right? Joey and Lorena picked me and my kids up, took us out to his house. You weren't plantation at the time. Took us out to his his his mansion, fed us, took care of us, you know, was like, what do you need? They put together a care package for us because we're newly in Miami, right? With nothing. OK, there are ups, there were downs in this business. It was the thing. It was the down, right? Yeah. Give us a care package, pots, pans, towels, necessities, everything that you need in a brand new apartment when you start now, right? And that's when I first got to Miami. This is within the first week, right? Looked out for us, you know what I'm saying? But again, I don't expect anybody to notice off the back. But the point to what I'm saying is relax on on on on social media. OK, no serious. Yeah, relax, because the people said I'm going to stop. Attacking the guys to do that. He said, last time we told you, I need you to stop, Joe, stop attacking these guys. I'm like, he's like, yo, Joe, I need you to stop. So I'm stopping. I'm letting money go. Don't stop. Oh, yes. Yes. Listen, and then and then I wound up taking the post down because people were saying wild stuff towards me and people were saying wild stuff towards you. And I was like, that wasn't my intent with my post. And what I told money immediately was like, money, we fucking love you. We worship you. You know, I love you. Don't take this no wrong way. Sometimes I say some shit that gets misdussed and I'm crazy. And people know that shit. Right. That is the truth. I found some times he argued with me. He was like, yo, Mote, I'm like, yo, look, I can't even with this guy right here. But what I'm saying is the way, you know, your career was laid out. Right. It's that energy. Right. It's the energy. And now it's actually the same thing. Like so say French Montana, right? French Montana. I got his demo played on nobody. They had beef with the powers that be. Nobody was playing their shit and they was bubbling in the street. I took his shit and was like, yo, he from the Bronx. You know, you playing this. I don't want to say it like that, but I, you know, I had to do that. Soon as they played it six months later, he was a superstar and had popped that. But the energy was he was already bubbling in the streets. Give him a song. That's that. What's that joint? Shorty got the tan too. She did that. And then six months later, he had a song with Drake and Rick Ross and he's a superstar. But it's an energy. So if that Joe got flow Joe and then LL Cool J puts me on a shot. So you hear it coming. This happens with every artist. It's a it's a it's an energy. And I've always felt like your energy for being on buddy and ladies first and all that, maybe if now you'd have been even bigger than you were. That's what I was trying to allude to. You know, that's what I was trying to get out. Like saying, like, you know, money love to me. Of course, we know you legendary. Of course, we know you got classic albums. Of course, we know. But, um, you know, he clarified. You see, we got to give him some time. He clapped. How long did it? How long was it? Six months. I know it was four months. Yeah, you know, first thing he did he walked in. Yeah, you know, you got to apologize. So I'm like, apologize. No, I know. What did I do? This is all stuff we know. They don't know. Yeah. And they know it off comments, like she just said. You know what, you know, there's a resurgence in originators. Like this year we had Daylight. We had Gold Shearing. Hey, Thought. Nas and the Thought Drop. Yeah, you're absolutely right. You have a problem. Kwame. And for a long Kwame. Yeah, he has a problem. Yeah, different kids. He got a joint now. Yeah, I used to love Kwame, man. And somebody I wanted to say earlier, but I didn't want to cut you off because, you know, that's my new rules around here. They don't let me cut people off. Yeah, that's a new one. OK. Right. Even though I try to tell them the DNA is I. It's working. Shout out to Chubb Rock. He's somebody I studied. He's somebody I studied. Like you said, you support. We are waiting for every green episode. Evergreen episode? Chubb was the first person I was going to sign the lot. That's crazy. Yeah. Chubb Rock? Yeah, we were supposed to, we was going to sign with Chubb. Chubb was our first. He's Chubb's first. I remember making my first out. Wait a minute. You can't just say that and then be like, hey, no, you got to tell us. I got to bring Looch up here. That's insane. I don't really remember everything in Eats. He was Chubb. You got to bring Chubb up here. Then you can also. Yeah, OK. OK, Dave, make that happen. You know they gave you. It represents all of us. Yeah. Yeah. You know they gave me the key to the city and it was a big day for me. Like, right? They gave me the key to the city. This wasn't my city. They gave me mad keys. None of them is my city. They gave me Jersey City, East Orange, mad shit. Yeah, everyone off the top. They got the key right here. They gave the Max. Yeah, they gave it to him. Hey, you're some shit, right? We got days. All of that. They gave me. I think they might have gave it to P. Now P might got a key. My day. Why he'll never gave me shit? That's crazy. I didn't give me Jersey City. I think a new building in a while. Oh, my God. It's stated to art crazy out of this world. Can't fit your sneakers in me. You checked it out? City. Your sneakers. You ain't got new with it? Out of the house, side of this. Look, bro. The inside. It's like that building you lived in in Jersey. The fucking apartment was this little, but it was the fly's building. Oh, my God. You never let me say my story. I'm sorry. So while I got the key to the city, the whole Bronx is out there crazy in Orchard Beach. I turn around and Chubb Rock. It just happens to be standing on stage. I stopped the whole shit. And I told them how much he influenced me in front of everybody. You know, the Bronx was out there so they always like your chug. Because a lot of time as men, right, in this type of business, we don't really sit people down and tell them how much they influenced us. Or how much, you know, we'll say what's up, we'll be cordial head out. But we don't grab them and be like, yo, look, when I did that represent album, my first album, I was listening to Chubb Rock. Chubb Rock's tape. I kept playing that every day before I wrote the next song. I just, his flows is. No, do you know I need Chubb Rock? Don't somebody see it? Who to leave in the pocket of a Marine? She'll say is. It's a love old cup. Well, the biggest line on that was remember use of hawkers. Yeah, we was just talking about him today too. And I seen Sean Bell's wife, she has a movie. There's a movie out. Send it with Manny. Absolutely. Shout out to Manny. Yep. Shout out to Manny. So I just seen him at Chubb. That's the man in the movie. We gotta see it. Called Nicole Bell. Nicole Bell. Yeah, it's very, yeah. If y'all don't know Sean. Where is that, Netflix? The kid got killed a day before his wedding in New York City back in the day. So his wife put out a movie. But you know what's crazy is they actually, because you know now I'm mature or whatever, whatever. But back in the days, I was the most harassed person from the police in the universe. And I'd caught ass with this. I don't understand killing yourself or being, but I got bullied more than anybody in the world. Like I got beat up by the cops more than you could ever think in your life. So they invite me one day to a, what was it, a Black Lives Matter, police summit. And I come up in there and you know, in great tradition, if you're thinking New Music Seminar, what would Chuck D say? What, you know, I was in the crowd watching all this. So when they put me on the panel and it was like, yeah, you know this, this, that, and they think I'm fat, Joe the Rapper. And I said, remember use of Hawkins when you walking. Oh wow. That was the first line. And I said, they knew all he came on bullshit. Like they knew the police know he came on bullshit. I'm telling the man of LaWayne, but Sean Bell, he's the wrong guy to bring up bias. They were like, oh no, he know too much. Like let's get him off the stage. But you know, a line like that, the consciousness in Music Care, rest did that for me too. I remember hopping the train. We talking about the Walkman. And I'm thinking it's just going to be a gangster album. I'll put it in Criminal Mind and he's like, airplane's flying, overseas people dying, politicians lying, I'm trying and I'm sitting there like, yo, what the fuck is he talking? But it opened us up to consciousness. You know, Care is one used to shut his show down and start straight up talking like Malcolm X or somebody. Seriously, does anybody remember Car Wash? No, the club Car Wash. Oh God, I don't know that. Okay, again, I'm showing my age, which I have no problem doing, right? Care, Chris used to shut the show down halfway through and start talking. And dropping all that knowledge, not in song form. Oh, nobody left. Nobody left. And then he got, oh, you know who else did that? Nas, Nas with that, Egypt had the kings and they cut off the nose. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. I know, I can't, yo, he was dropping jewels on that. Yeah. You know, and that's, we missing that. Yeah. We missing that in hip hop today. People dropping them type of jewels where the next generation could feel proud and know where they came from cause we don't know where we came from. I was in the car with Rich the Barber. And I was like, yo, you know, they chopped off the noses in the statues in Egypt because they had black noses. Nega noses. Who goes there? Tell us. But they chopped their nose off. Oh, it's scary. They're European or something. So, but this was deep. You know what I'm saying? This, this was deep and, and you never find the nose. I heard she's wanting something for the nose. You know that's the way. Somebody found the nose. It's the first story that the people said I didn't catch. I never knew. I and she got arrested. There's somebody just saying nobody knows. Nobody know. No, I told the story last time. Iron Chic. We bumped into Iron Chic, the wrestler. And he was from Iran. So he comes by him with some Mexican dudes. They drinking liquor. He asked for some liquor perhaps. Some liquor, they gave him liquor. They saw him smoking weed. 30 minutes later, he come by. Perhaps some weed. He came back 30 minutes later. He said, perhaps something for the nose. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yo, don't give the iron chic something for the nose. Yo, they said, I want nothing with Sovaro. I want Solla Cymus. It was like, first of all, I didn't know he had a nickname. His nickname is Sheiky Baby. So in the comments, everybody who knew him off wrestling was saying, yo, that's Sheiky Baby. He used to get arrested every week for cocaine. Yo, he used to diss it. Like they were like, Joe did not cap on this. That's crazy. Showin' Jada Baby, let's go, legendary. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for Moni La. Get that new album. Love Notes EP. Love Notes EP. Let's go. 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