Buffalo Is For Real This Time… We Swear w Jack Jablonski

Welcome to the Empty Netters Podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours right felt like I was like literally Superman. Jambolos playing Fortnite. So, the day gets on the stick, did TR show you the son of Cycle? It was not. I invented that almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice. I've been just tonight with some chicken fingers and a few Guinnesses right into you guys. Uh, that's where this pod came to life. Ice is ready and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters Podcast brought to you by betmgm. I'm your host, Dan Powers. Over here running the show, you know he's Irish because he's like a potato. He's amazing no matter what version of him you get. Sean Bafini. Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. It is. They're incredible. And over here to my left, you know he's mental because he thinks his immune system is like a brisket. The longer you cook it, aka sleep, the better it gets. As always, that's true. It's not even that crazy of it. It's not at all because, well, what is crazy is I believe passionately that the millisecond we all fall asleep every night, you are the sickest you've ever become. Like literally if someone woke you right back up, you'd be deathly ill. But then you continue to cook the sickness out of you all night. And then if you get enough sleep, you wake up healthy. I passionately believe that. Sean, what's your favorite kind of potato? We do like a kind of like a breaded thing called a croquette. Oh, yeah. It's like these little cylinders of like bread and potato and goodness. That's good. That's fancy. Who's not expecting you to be like boiled? No, no, that's a peasant dish. Hey, hey, I like boiled potatoes. Boiled potatoes are really good. Have you seen the Martian? Oh, yeah. That's you, dude. I picture that. Your growing potatoes from your own microwave them and the dips in ketchup. I think dips in ketchup, any tab. With bikadin as well. I think it would be more fulfilling if you grew potatoes from your own poop, for sure. I'll tell you what, I saw post ones that was like, you will never see a man more fulfilled than when they eat a tomato that they grew themselves. And as someone who is a big vegetable gardener, it's true. Growing your own vegetables and then eating them is pretty sweet feeling. Yes, it is. And it's what we've made this joke before. But a, well, you got to pay attention, but it's not that hard like you buy a plant and then you plant it. You could say the live is not easy. Yes. But then b, I love how I'm like, God, I saved six cents on this tomato. You know, like compared to buying them in the store. OK, that's not true. The longer you go, the way more cost efficient to this. Yes. But I will say it's funny. Like when you first start, if you build a little vegetable garden, when you buy all the soil and the requirements and the tomato cages and all this and all that, you are like, damn, that cost me like $250 for the whole Shebang. For a potato. So you got to harvest a lot to make more of it. We've got a big, great episode today. Lots of fun topics. The professors are back. And our dear friend, Jack Jimonsky is coming on to share his unbelievable story. You're going to love that. Let's jump right into hot ice. And there's nothing hotter in the league right now than Hattrick's. It's the coolest thing to do. Pean your pants is cool. If Pean your pants is cool, consider me Rasmus Dalin because I scored Hattrick last night. Rasmus Dalin became the latest NHL Hattrick in the month of January. I think there's now 28 Hattrick's in 27 days of January. I got a couple things to say about this. One, and this isn't even a shameless plug. This is for real. That MGM runs a Hattrick jackpot. Oh my god. Literally receive your share of $10,000 in bonus bets. Everyone is pouring Hattrick's. Not using Hattrick's. Hattrick's are pouring in. And our main sponsor offers an incredible pot of money. If you activate it and get a Hattrick. Just do it anytime I'm making you do it. So I believe. Secondly, dehattrix. A lot of dehattrix. So the Oilers beat Hattrick's. I don't know if that's right, but that no. Dattrix is cool. Yeah. I like that. The Oilers became the first team in NHL history. A couple of nights ago to have defenseman square Hattrick's and back-to-back games. Bouchard did it, then Echholm did it. Unbelievable. Unbelievable snipe, 200 foot snipe from Echholm. I know. To do it. Because that was like traffic. Sometimes you do something. Oh yeah, you get a full ice, but you're like, I can see it. You know, dude, honestly, you know the one, remember when I took that puck off the hand in barely the other night? Yes. And they had the goalie pulled. I had a clear lane. I needed to ice it because I was like my hands broken. But I had a clear lane at that. And I missed it. You know, and I was like, whatever. I was going to get a broken hand. But that Echholm one, they were fucking people everywhere. Oh yeah. It was a net seeking. Yes, that was unbelievable. That was so sick. So I got curious. Yep. And I looked up and please, folks, fact check me here because I did the most research that I was willing to do. But it was a decent amount. I got curious. So I looked into current NHL players with no career hat tricks and the most amount of games play. I love that. I love this. So did you peek at this? No. OK. There are currently five players with over 1,000 games and zero hat tricks. All five of them have Stanley cups. OK. One with one, three with two, and one with three. All five of them are defensemen. I was going to say they have to be defense. Makes sense. Yeah. And in this man's opinion, four of them are law-cala-famers. OK. So these are great players. All of them are great players. Obviously. Stand the cup winners over 1,000 games. So the five guys with over 1,000 games and no hat tricks are Luke Shen. Wait, I want to see if I can guess. I actually haven't looked at this. Oh, wow. OK. Is it guessable? Based on the cups, maybe, yeah. Headman. Victor Headman is one of them. I wouldn't have gotten Luke Shen. Ryan McDonough? No. Great guess. How many games? I'm sure it does have a hat trick. I think he must have a hat trick. No way. Long. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, they all have cups. Interesting. Let's say Brent Burns. But he could have a hat trick. He has one. He does have a hat trick. Yes. Carlson must have a hat trick. This says based on NHL statistics, statistics, Ryan McDonough has never recorded a hat trick. So maybe this research is terrible. There's 30 people. I like his hat. John has 1,028 games. So let's add Ryan McDonough. Ryan McDonough, I got another one. God, what is a defenseman who's been in the league forever? How about, like I said, guys, please help me with the research. Because I'm not entirely sure this is the best. I'm obviously forgetting such obvious people. What about Patrangelo? He is not on my list. But let me do another search. Let's check. Let's check. Because he's got a cup. This says no. Alex Patrangelo has never scored a hat trick. And is NHL career? OK. This website is trash. Stat news. OK, give me a little. I'm suerring stat news. Stat news sometimes is garbage. I know they're not usually garbage. Sometimes they just get crazy shit to say. I guess that implies their garbage. I don't think they're garbage. What? Who is on your list? Alex Patrangelo or stat news on this one. Nocturus. Because Petro, 1887 games. Maybe he's an old, maybe he's an old, before these guys got a thousand. Might be an old list. What else they got? The other guys are John Carlson. Chris Latang. No haddy for either of those guys. Chris Latang. That's actually shocking to me. And Drew Doudy are bullying. Drew, we got to get through a hat trick. I know. How did I not say Drew? So here's my thing. It's because I knew he had a hatty. That's what we need. This is why I said I need help on the research. But we've added, if I do a quick, yeah, tanger, no hat trick. So we've got seven guys. We're added in Petro and we're added in McDonald's list. Yes, let's have over that. Maybe more, maybe more. It's probably way more. Someone find out, please. In the comments, I literally want to see this. With over a thousand games and no hat tricks. I'm actually shocked it. Is it more to be honest with you? I'm sure it's, yeah, it's got to be more. What stat did I even find? Hattie's hard. It's so excited about this. It got me so excited because I was like, when Echome scored his, I was like, he certainly was on the list. Yeah. And when all these guys are getting there and they're like first career hat trick, I'm like, oh, yeah, cool. I mean, you're sorry. And NHL hat trick is insane. And it was like five. And then again, it's the thousand games. You have to remember. There's tons of guys in the league who don't have hat tricks, but not all of them have over a thousand games. So of current active players with over a thousand games, we've got at least seven here. And that's, these are all guys with cups. These are all guys with cups. So we got to be on Hattie watch is what I'm saying. I, dude, I could not be more down with this. I need, I need teams to know this. So like the caps for John Carlson, penguins for Tanger, kings for Doudy, lightning for headmen, blues for Shanner. Petra is not playing, but all these teams, dude, I'm kind of going through this. And I'm thinking besides those two misses, this might have been right. It might have been right. Cause I'm looking at active guys over a thousand and everyone I'm not checking, but everyone I'm seeing, I'm like, they surely have a hat trick. The bolts have two in MacDonna and headmen. Name the guys, name some guys that you're thinking. That are active over at Jonathan Tase. Hey, I don't even need to tell you that. Yeah, no, it's no all over Ekman Larson. He could. Let's try. But like everyone else is a forward that scored a bunch. So like I'm sure they have all of an our Ekman Larson has not scored a hat trick according to Gemini. Okay. So let's add OEL to that list. Nick Letti, there's no way. No offense Nick Letti, but there's no way. Nope, Nick Letti, no. Come on, come on. Shay Weber, but probably, but I bet. Yeah, also a Shay active. I mean, yeah, I guess fair. Yes, Shay Weber has one career. Got it. Probably probably who? Give me one of them. Right, MacDonna, Brendan Dillon. There's I was cough. Nino Neeterider, Brendan Dillon. He does not have one. Yoshi must right. Yeah, I feel like. I mean, this is what's this is like the funniest real time research of all time on like what a pod gets made just in Falk. Justin Falk. Does Roman, Yoshi have an NHL hat trick? Gemini says as if it is a February 2024 National Prudish Captain Roman, Yoshi has not recorded a regular season of the National Prudish Captain's NHL career. No way. Oh my God. So this is all scored in natural hat. Gas, that's gas. So this is some of the worst research I've ever done. Well, it's probably 10. It might be more. No, there's not that many. I just looked at every active player with over a thousand games in there. I guess there's a chance that some forwards that I'm just would be shocked by, but yeah, yeah, give me one of those. Give me one of those forwards. Okay, okay. Codry. Like did you say like, did you say Nino? Yeah, Adam Henrique, I guess could maybe does. Nazum Codry have an NHL hat trick. Yes, Codry has one. Now let's do Nino. Adam Henrique has a hat trick. Like I just assume these, if you're a forward and you've been playing this and you have a thousand Nino has, I bet you have a hat trick. So okay, so we added Ryan McDonough. We added Alex Petrangelo. We added Brendan Dillon. We added Roman Yosey. Crazy. Was anyone else? No, well actually maybe, but I can't remember. We'll have to find some of it. Some of it, well actually no, we just did the work. So this is a understandable, Nick Letty. Nick Letty. Yup. Nick Letty. So we're up to 10. Yeah. So needed to go deeper research. Thank you for the help there. This is a defenseman problem. Understandably. Understandably. But this is what I'm saying. Teams, I'm putting your teams on notice. We got to get these guys hat tricks. Drew Doudy needs a hat trick. That would be sick. I mean, Drew Doudy needs it in a hat trick. I'd throw my hat trick. So here's the deal, King's fans and bolts fans, especially for headman and McDonough. I mean, also Tanger, like give me a break, Tanger. Yeah. If these guys get two goals this season, you better be feeding them the puck with an empty net. And frankly, the other team, I don't care if they're up by five goals. Pull the goalie. We need more hat tricks. That's what I'm saying. Hat trick jackpot. Pull the goalie. Pull the goalie. Empty netters. We started talking about this because Rasmus Stolling got a hat for glass nine. So let's transition this right into some sabers. Yeah. The Buffalo sabers are a serious franchise. The Buffalo sabers are not a serious franchise. Chris Dan, the Buffalo sabers are not a serious franchise. But this iteration of the Buffalo sabers team is a serious team. They are now a serious franchise. No, they're not. And I won't hear anything different. This franchise is not serious. However, however, the only way you become a serious franchise is by stacking runs of iterations of serious teams. Yeah. This appears to be one. I thought they had one a few years ago. And then they followed that up with very un-serious teams. This appears to be a serious team. This is absolutely electric. What's up? Oh my God, dude, it's incredible. The Buffalo sabers are the heater that they have been on. It's the likes of which we haven't seen in a long time. And they what did they have that like nine game or eight game win streak? Yeah, yeah. They lost and people are like, oh no, but then they're like boom, they rattled off a bunch again. They've got four in a row right now. They're 16, six and three at home. They've got a plus 20 goal diff. And they're third in the Atlantic, dude. And it's, I said this a while ago. I need people to appreciate how rare it is for a team to turn around mid season. Yeah. The Blues did it. Oh yeah. They were in last place, usually like the Islanders, like the ducks, like the sharks. And any team that's a surprise in a season where you go, wow, they might make playoffs. They are, they do it from the very beginning. You go, whoa, the ducks are like kind of competitive. And then it just continues. That's how these big surprises happen. It almost never happens where you go, sabers are in last. Sabers stink. And then half of the year they go bang, we're actually fucking nasty. It's so true. And I owe Lindy Ruffin apology. I know. Because I thought that I was unsure about that hiring. And then they started so poorly and I was like, dude, I think that you just have to figure out that this is not it. But the return of Lindy has flipped on its head. In the best way, Yarmul came in, changed vibes. I just think, listen, the Joe Brady hiring of the Buffalo Bills. I don't think thrilled that many people. I don't think they hired Joe Brady. Joe Brady. Joe Brady. I think he's like an LSU guy who was just coaching somewhere. LSU. No, no, no, no, no. He's like, look him up. You're fucking lazy shit. Yeah, don't call me lazy. You said five, dude. I just said the worst research of all time. But hey, I got us there. I got us on track. The Bills have lost yet again. We got crying Josh Allen's breaking all of our hearts. That was it. And now Joe Brady from, Joe Brady from, this guy can't keep up. I have no idea. No idea. Does his name even Joe Brady? It is, it is. It is. Thank God I didn't fuck that up. But my point is the Sabers have officially become Buffalo's Obi-Wan. They are their only hope. All of Buffalo needs to be pouring all their energy into this team. And I, what really makes me happy is I think that the Sabers have an opportunity to go for a fucking whale here at the deadline. Make a trade. How is it possible that it's taking you this long to look up Joe Brady and who he just coached for literally because I can't every article. This is why AI will win because I just type into chat to BT, what did Joe Brady do? It's like this. But if you go, if you Google, what did Joe Brady do before the Bills? It's 10 articles about like the Bills, the Fire, John McDermott and then you got to scroll halfway down to even see Joe Brady. And even all those articles you click on, the first thing comes up is 10 pop up ads. And I'm like, close, close. And I'm like, what was his job? Yeah. How have you not spit that back in the immediate? I'm just shocked that you didn't just go to Joe Brady's Wikipedia page. Yeah, even that's a halfway down. Early life college day. Just fuck and tell us where he coach. He worked for the Bills. He's just an internal hire. He's totally devoted. Jesus. But he was the office coordinator for the Carolina Panthers in 2020, 2021. I want the Sabers to go get a fucking whale. I want that. Who do you want? I think I want, I was looking at their lines. I think I want middle six forward help like that first line. That's not a whale, though. Why not? Give me a second line, great player. OK, that's a small whale. What's the smallest whale, Sean? We find out. Thank you so much, because I know it's a sperm whale. No, that's the biggest. No, it's not a dwarf sperm whale. So I was right. Whoa, that's crazy. I fucking knew it. Well, is a dwarf sperm whale and a sperm whale the same thing? I don't think so. If I gave you a baby potato and told you a potato, you'd be like, where's the rest of the potato? But it's still a potato. Yeah, but fair point. No, I think this is more similar to someone who said, what's the smallest potato when I said a fingerling potato in Sean, when it's actually a dwarf fingerling potato, I'd be like, well, it's still a fingerling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I got sperm. And that means that's that means something. That does mean something. I'm actually sure that. So I look, Samus and Daliin, Byron Power, Kestrelings Great, Metz's Great. I like their D. I know. And I just think that maybe we could get like a big time, like, okay, fucking Artemi Panera. That's what I mean more. Like I think you gotta go, you gotta go here. You gotta go get something real. That's insane. And like really do it. And it's actually crazy. Cause it's still, is it? Isn't this exciting? Oh, it's just fucking awesome. Every year at the deadline, it feels like Buffalo's gonna go like this. We're gonna trade someone and they're gonna go immediately win a cup. How about this time they trade for someone and they immediately win a cup? How about that? How about that? And I ask a question, how is this happening? Yarmul. Yeah. Culture, changer. Because I remember when we brought this up the first time, you look at their stats and dude, don't get me wrong. Vegas won the cup with ICO having 66 points and leading the team and they are complete. They're rolling lines. It's a great goal to ending that year. Everything you want. You look at this team and I know everyone goes, well, they've been even better lately. But I'm like, yeah, but Tage has 55 points and 52 games that lead the team. 55 for ICO, 55 for ICO. 55 for ICO. Tucky 43 points and 51 games. And then in the Dallelin 7th and Great Year. But after that, it's very, you know, you don't see the production that you go, oh my God. Yeah, they're spreading the wealth. And then I go, oh, well, it's the goalie play. And then you look at the goalie play and I'm like, that's actually not very good from any of them. And then I go, oh, that's interesting. Yeah. So it's, I'm like, I don't know what's going on, but they are putting, they are stringing, they're winning games. They're winning games. All that matters literally. Yeah. But they are winning games. Yeah. It's true. They're winning games and they're doing it in a fun way. They're pumping in goals, getting captain, catrics. And also do want to take a moment to say that story released of Rasmus Dallelin and Carolina and the tragedy they dealt with with her heart failure, the unbelievable doctors and paramedics who helped her. And then the tragedy of losing their child. That was just such an emotional story. So all of the love in the world to the Dallelin family. And it just worn my heart so much to see him get that hat trick and see this team going well with him as the captain. It's just, it's fantastic. I encourage everyone to go back and find that player's Tribune article. I think Dallelin wrote, right? That was like, we want this. So for Buffalo. For Buffalo. It was such a sick read. And I remember what it felt like. I mean, we interviewed Tage and Tucky right that summer, right after this. And obviously that season ended up sucking, but the buzz with that, the retro thing, they were like, this is our time. Yeah, it's special. And I, we got delayed, we got delayed. We had a speed bump. But I think we're now back. And God, a Saber's Run would feel fucking incredible. And you imagine, just playoffs, if they make playoffs, I will be there for game one. Yeah. Uh, full of cereal in hand. Yeah, it's like Tim Hortons fucking. Unbelievable. What are those things called? The, uh, the, the, Tim Bins. Yo, those are cats, but the, the drink that ran out of you. Oh, yeah, Red loves that drink. It's, um, like, uh, it's like a freeze, a creamer, a, uh, ice cap, ice cap, ice cap. Tim Hortons ice cap and some bits. Come on. Holy shit, dude, we're talking about going to Utah for playoffs, skiing all day, B-Dubs, B-Dubs. Could you imagine a Utah Buffalo Stanley Cup final? Dude, I'm going B-Dub B-Dubs. I would die. Playoff game. Then I go Buffalo cereal bits wings wings. Oh, more wings. I go Buffalo Wild Wing into Buffalo wings. You're talking about wings in a Utah and not in Buffalo. The hell's the matter with you? Two wing capitals of the country. Everyone knows the two wing capitals and the good. Also, we got flamed pun intended by Calgary fans being like this. You guys don't know shit about Calgary when we were talking about, like, the environment in these places. And to that, I say you are absolutely correct. So thank you for educating us. We're trying to learn. What? What? What? I don't know. Apparently, it's not that cold. It's not that cold in Calgary. Don't, hey, you've never been. They're fucking crazy. No, they're great. They're fucking cowboys up there. What do you think the temperature is in Calgary right now? Right now? In Fahrenheit or Celsius? I don't know Celsius. I don't know what that means. I bet right now at this very moment in Calgary, it's 29 degrees. Sean. I'd say it's 32 degrees. Like it? 33 degrees. We were both very close. Yes, absolutely. So it's not that cold. That's cold. Yeah, that is cold. It's fucking cold in Calgary. I think if anyone thinks it's not cold in Calgary, then they are, they need to get a less incredible parka because that's pretty cold. Take that off. Yeah. That's not that cold though. But I'm sure it gets. I'm sure it's cool. I'm sure it's cool. We'll learn it. Okay, Buffalo, go get a whale, keep this up. Last bit of news, let's talk about stadium series. We're heading to Tampa. But tomorrow when you're listening to this, we have to be at the end of, no, no, I'll be flying in the morning when you listen to this. Are we flying on Tuesday or Thursday or Friday? No, Friday, Friday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we're heading to Tampa. It's gonna be great. We got Boston. We got Tampa, Boston 4-1-0 in outdoor games. The only loss was 2016 Winter Classic at Gillette against the Habs. Tough day. Yeah, got that count. Tampa is 1-0. You beat the Preds in Nashville in the 2022 stadium series. That was sick game. Yes. Preds had a good jersey in that game. The outdoor environment is unique. Very cool. I'm loving that it's at Raymond James. Yeah, I love it. It's so interesting that the baseball stadium looks so incredible when you are zoomed out. Yeah. You're in at the place, but like when you're in the concourse, you're just looking at everything unbelievable visual. That's amazing. I was making that every time. When you are actually watching the gameplay, the football stadium provides just more logic, if that makes sense. It's literally built to be around everyone staring at this one rectangle in the middle. Yeah. So it actually works out really nicely. I've been to Raymond James before. I'm excited to go back. I think that the normally I'm always on a home team, but I think the environment. Can I stop you real quick? Yeah. Raymond James is a name that's not a company that's a human. I assume so, but I don't know. Who is Raymond? What's his name? Raymond. Fight Club. Sean, come on. Who is Raymond? Yeah. Tyler Dirtin takes his wallet and he's at Raymond's a veterinarian. He goes, you're a little back to your life and you'll be happy now. You remember that character's name? Yeah. I never would have heard him. It's Raymond. And he goes, and Raymond. Fuck. Yeah. We'll get it. Okay. Who is Raymond James? I think it's Raymond. He says the middle initial, too. I mean, Raymond, it's like Raymond K. something. Raymond James most commonly refers to the financial services firm founded by Bob James, which is complete bullshit. The name itself comes from a partnership with Edward Raymond, who sold his firm to Bob James in 1964, leading to the creation of Raymond James and Associates. So it's not that cool, but it is two men. It is the last name of two men. Yeah. Yeah. So not that cool. Edward Raymond. We don't get stadiums much anymore that are, you know, yeah, Fenway. A dude. But even Fenway is like a huge conglomerate now. But hey, that's cool. That's cool. Raymond K. Fuck. Raymond K. Hessel. And Raymond. You got the Raymond. I got the K. Sean. Where the fuck were you, pal? Dude, I was thinking of, was it Robert Paulson? Robert Paulson. Yeah. Yeah. Robert Paulson. Yeah. That's really good. Yeah, yeah. Dude, the pirate ship is there. I love it. Oh, I thought you brought to be upset about that. No, no, no, but I hope they lean into it. Like, if you get a penalty, I hope you go into the box and then you have to walk the plank. That would be awesome. And then you have to go back to the back side of the penalty box because it's on the field. There's no seats there. There should be a penalty box and a plank. You have to bounce. You literally have to walk the plank and jump into a phone. You're doing, doing. You have to walk the plank, jump into a phone set. And you can come back and get in the box. It wouldn't be funny if you got a penalty. You kind of be like, the box play there. So the Tampa Bay box, which is why it's all harded up. But the USF bowls maybe, it's called the college. How did you keep saying baseball field if this is where the bucks play? Because I said baseball fields look way cooler football fields are amazing because they're all aimed at the same thing. I'm so excited. I don't get a football field. I got a home. The bowls, I think maybe play there all the time, but I saw, that's why I was there. I saw a bowl's game. And there's a fucking massive pirate ship. What's a, what is a bowl? A bowl? The USF bowls. The USF, they're throwing too many teams in sports in here right now. Yeah, you got a fucking, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And there's a huge pirate ship and they and granted they're the bowls, not the bucks, but they just didn't use it. And I was like, there's a huge pirate ship here. You got to use that in fucking. I don't give a shit. Did they fire the Irish fan? If I were to, you got to use the pirate ship. Yeah, yeah. No, that's what I'm saying. I want, I want cannon blast. Yeah, I know this is the Tampa Bay Lightning. Oh, there's going to be cannon blasts. I want fucking cannon blasts. I want the outside to be all pirate. Would you respect the commitment, you know how often times we see the gold tenders wear tookes on top of their helmets? Would you respect if the goalies wore pirate hats? Yes. Would you respect if any of the players wore an eye patch? Yes. Through off their depth perception in a big way. Can you imagine? I bet coach could do that. I bet coach could still play without playing an NHL all-star game cross-eyed. So I've certainly could respect it. Would you respect if we saw any peg legs? Yes, Ovechkin style. If boom, I have a metal life. If one of the coaches, if Marco's stern or John Cooper doesn't belt strap their leg in an upright position and then have a Halloween costume movie quality peg leg behind the bench, I'll be upset. I want him, what if Cooper just has a pirate or I mean a pirate, a parrot right here, not a real one or a real one. But what if he coaches with a parrot the whole time? That'd be pretty sick. I would think that would be one of the coolest things that could ever happen. Yeah. I bet who's rough and west? I bet west could rough with a parrot and then the parrot could say the penalties. Yeah. We could do it. If we work on this right now, it's Wednesday. If someone gets to work on this, I guarantee you by Sunday we can have a parrot that's can say two minutes tripping. If that's possible, it is. Someone needs to make that happen. Ten-ten-night. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Which one's the better Jersey? I think I like Boston a little bit more. But they're both very flashy. Yeah. We like we talked about the ice blue of Tampa's kind of fun. I think they're great. I think it's going to look awesome. I think it's great. I think the NHL always puts on such a good show with these games. I'm psyched. I'm psyched to be there. It's also going to be cold. Did you see that? Yeah. NHL. I don't know who Gary's talking to up in the sky up there. But everyone's making it happen. You can't throw an outdoor game in Florida. And he goes, what if it's 32 degrees in Tampa on Sunday? I'm telling you, and there he is. It couldn't be. It's 67 on Friday. Yeah. And he goes, watch this. 12-32. I'm telling you, Gary's batten a thousand. Gary's batten a thousand lately. And he's been on a heater. And somehow he's turned off the heater. He did. 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Brother of our beer league teammate. Yes. Oh, that's awesome. The OG Japs. Yep, the OG Japs. Dude, it's so awesome to finally get you here on the show. Tons to talk about, as we said, worked with a bunch of teams. We want to hear all about that. But because it's so inspiring, because it's so amazing, we wanted to open with the story of your injury and all the things that you've done. So please tell the fans about growing up, playing in Minnesota, your journey, what happened, how you didn't let it break you down and how you've been just so inspirational and motivated to just keep going and getting better every single day. And, and Jeff, start with how a big hockey is in Minnesota. Because people are saying from there, no. But I think a lot, you know, we've a lot of LA fans is that like, I want people to know that it is life up there. It is life. You know, I think it's funny because when you look at anybody, whether it's in America or Canada or wherever, like you dream of like winning the Stanley Cup. Like that's, that's goal number two in Minnesota. It's about winning the state turn. Yes, too. It's so true. It's so life. Like, and you know, I think youth sports in America specifically in the hockey world, like so much of it is, you know, you've got your AAU team or your triple A team and your traveling clubs or whatever, for Minnesota, it's so much about where you grow up and what your identity is and your city organization. Like you play youth hockey there and then you dream about playing for the high school team, making it as a freshman or a sophomore in some of those bigger clubs at the higher levels and for Minnesota, like that's what it's about. You know, you play on the ponds and then you, you know, go to practice and you come back and play on the ponds again. Yeah. It's epic. And so, you know, growing up in Minnesota, you know, I was injured as a sophomore in high school when I was 16. I got checked from behind illegally when I had first in the boards and broke my neck into places and severed my spinal cord injury and it was obviously a tragic, you know, event. It changed my life forever in all the worst possible ways. But at the same time, I was so, so fortunate to have so much support and specifically coming from the hockey community. You know, it's such a tight-knit community. You know, I think when anybody listens to a hockey player talk, it's always the we before me thinks. And we realize how much of a team sport it is. All the sacrifices our parents make, our family makes, just to allow you to be able to play the sport, to afford the sport so much of that. And when I got injured, I think it's one of those situations where you realize that, yeah, it's a contact sport. It's a physical sport and it can happen to anyone of us. And for me, you know, you play the sport, you never think it's gonna be you and it happened. And I was very fortunate to kind of, I guess, spark that emotional cord with so many people that wanted to help support in so many different ways. Attention, you know, trending on social media, the front page of Yahoo, and obviously people wanted to donate and help with the recovery process. And I think I came from two very strong parents and obviously a younger brother who was by my side at all times that always were there for me and sacrificed so much of their lives after my injury to allow me to recover and to heal and try to make the best of obviously a not so great situation. And I never quit. You know, it was just one of the things where the athlete mindset, the way you goal set, the way you deal with adversity, just kind of put me in the mindset of, you know, this was the next stage. And because of it, just continued to track on and obviously make the best of a situation. So stayed in the hockey world, I love the sport, couldn't see myself without it, even after the injury and, you know, almost, you know, 14 and change years later, here we are. So still so stoked to be in the hockey world and to be a part of the game that I love. And, you know, it obviously has, may have had this impact on me, but it's been a hell of a road and I'm very proud of what we've been able to accomplish both from a personal standpoint and obviously the career standpoint as well. Well, I mean, it's a better world having you in it and I hope you know that seriously. I appreciate it. And I want to go back to, you know, you've talked so much about how incredibly helpful your family was and the community, your teammates, all the people in Minnesota. So much rallying. Rallying together. But I do want to take a bit of time. It's funny that you said the weed before me because you never talk about this part. You always really harp on how great everyone else was. I don't think you ever give yourself enough credit because I do want to say not a lot of people hear the stories when stuff like this happens, when something happens to you unfairly, when you can't really understand it, how much it weighs on you. Yeah. And everything I know about you from, you know, the people who introduced us to our friendship as it's grown, it is remarkable to me how positive you've always been through all this. And if you can, just, you know, speak on that because I think it's so valuable to people going through whether it be an injury, whether it be a trauma, emotional stuff, it is crazy how important the, the, you know, the self care is and the words of affirmation to yourself. And I just think you've done such an amazing job of that. I appreciate that. It means a lot. I think, you know, when you live this injury and you're forced to grow up at the age of 16, into being an adult or realizing what was in the past, living a dream life, playing a sport that you love and having a promising future to make it, you know, through college and who knows where life would have gone, post college and whatnot. But the reality of, you know, living in a hospital for four and a half months at the age of 16, having everything flipped upside down from what was normal and what was a dream life, to now what is a new normal, it takes a huge toll on you. And I think, I think I try to just like deflect it to not like kind of, in many ways, bring back like so much of what we've had to overcome both as an individual and as a family. And for me specifically, you know, I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy, right? Like, you can't get in bed on your own, you can't get out of bed on your own. Like the day-to-day living, I think I'm almost numb to it because I think if you, you really break down the lack of independence and what help and care that goes into every single day, and not just every single day, we're talking hour to hour, we're talking assistance, getting from A to B, whether it's getting, you know, having my caregiver slash assistant drive me around to being able to feed myself certain meals to being able to go out and about with friends, but you have to make sure that X, Y, and Z are taking care of if something happens. So there's so much planning that goes around it. There's so many different obstacles that I've obviously had to adjust to or at least, you know, kind of give into. And at the same time, you know, it's all while still trying to make the best, right? You're still trying to, you know, you can't change the past. And I have a tattoo on my arm. It says, I understand my injury, I don't accept it. Like, I understand the situation. I know what the reality is. I know where science is in terms of recovery and research, but I'm also not just going to accept the reality of what this is. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, you know, it's not an area where I'm just going to, you know, sit in my room for the rest of my life, dope on, you know, how shitty things can be or what could be better. You just make the best of what you got. Dude, I wanted to, and I'm going to want to get into your foundation in a second, but think about, when I think about the tattoo you have, and the foundation you end up starting. Mm-hmm. How, if you're comfortable, say, how did you get there? Like, even the mantra that you just set out about the tattoo, because I have to believe at the beginning, you were like, I also don't accept this, and this is unfair. And you'd be like, how did you get from fuck this? You're like, you know what? I understand. I don't accept, so I will make change. Yeah. I think it's a combination of things. I think early on in the injury, the days following, like literally the days following. I'm in a halo. I can't move any body parts. It's like I'm barely twitching muscles at this point. And we still don't know, you know, the prognosis is, you might not move the left side of your body. You'd be lucky to bend your right arm. And within a week, I was already starting to move it. I like, brought my brother right next to the bed and hit him and shit. And he does the whole, like, hey, don't do that. Oh, wait, fuck, dude. Oh, yeah. He's like, wait, that was sick. All right, wait, so I can beat you up more, like with consent. But for me, it was a matter of, it was so overwhelming. But while it was so overwhelming from a internal perspective while you're sitting in a hospital bed, trying to comprehend, trying to understand how you got here or what led to it. You know, of course, I think everybody has those what ifs and life, what if I made this decision? And for me, you know, even to this day, you play it back. Like, what if I would have worked out more? What if I would have taken things more seriously? What if I didn't turn left instead of cutting across the ice that would have led to not putting myself in the position that I did? Of course, it wasn't my fault, but, you know, it was a legal hit and shit happens, right? You know, it's a fast game. Penalties get taken, right? You know, it is what it is. But for me, I think part of it was the fortune of having such an overwhelming support system and public support right away. Cause it almost put me in a mindset of where I can't let these guys down. Like, I have so many people that are rooting for me. And so many people that care about the best for me right now and moving forward. And for me, it was so much of a, well, you know, they're not giving up on me. I can't give up on them. I can't give up. Yeah, such a fucking off. And so it was, it was so much of they were rallying around me, but I was rallying not for them. But in many ways, you felt like it was. Like I had rally for myself. I still had to get up and go to physical therapy for five and a half hours a day for a whole year. And I obviously still do it. And I'm still extremely active in the physical therapy world. But it was so important because with spinal cord injuries, the first 18 months after your injury is essentially when you're going to get what you get back in terms of an activation. Yeah, in terms of taking advantage. Once the 18 months hit, what you physically can do and can't do is a plateau in many ways. But it's taking advantage of those 18 months because you can activate so much more as the spinal cord unswells. And then once you hit that 18 months, whatever muscles you can move around and activate, you can make stronger. It's just those 18 months were so crucial for recovery. Yeah, definitely. And for me, it was full go. The second you kind of get out of that first funk of realizing that this is what's going on. So you might as well fucking do something about it. Yeah, for sure. OK, and then the foundation, I believe started a year after. One year anniversary. Yeah, so sick. Right, so what went into the planning of that? And what does it mean to you and all that? Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, had a great support system that helped deal with a lot of this stuff in the background. I was so fortunate to have a ton of support in all different facets in that first year after the injury. And my family and I kind of realized that we wanted to give back. We realized that I was very lucky in the aspect of having the support that I did, especially in that first year. And of course, continued sense. But it was time to give back to the community, a community that needed a voice, that needed someone with more positivity to come in and say, this isn't good enough. The research isn't where it needs to be, or we need to make it better so that people like myself, the 1.3 million Americans living with paralysis, can have something to look forward to, to believe in, to continue working hard for as the research can get better. And that's what we've really focused on. The foundation's focus is to improve the quality of the life of those living with paralysis. And it's through research. It's finding out how we can improve every single day. Whether it's a surgical implant, it's stem cells, it's on the skin stimulation, it's different types of stimulation. There's so many different avenues. And the tough part about it is it's not like cancer where you have cancer and you do chemotherapy. And that likely will kill X, Y, or Z. It's, we don't know exactly what's going to fix things. But we do know that there's a bunch of different things that are improving the quality of lives. And it's probably going to be a combination of a few different things. But ultimately, it's getting better because of the research and a lot of our money in the research has really helped progress. Yeah, it's amazing, man. You guys have raised millions and millions of dollars. It's obviously helping so many people. How great has that been for you to, it makes me so happy that you didn't let hockey leave you and you still do what you love in a world that you love. But having this as well, that must be very fulfilling. It's extremely fulfilling, but it's also so healthy. I know that I'm not putting in the work for nothing. I know that A, the work that I do with the foundation is going to a good cause. And then B, I know that the work that I'm putting in on myself, whether it's through therapy or it's through physical therapy, that all of that is going to benefit and both ends. I know that me staying healthy, me putting in the time in the gym and working on the treadmill and all that stuff, that that is going to be beneficial because I'm staying healthy to be able to take advantage of when these medical research trial studies and breakthroughs come to the clinics. And are through the FDA and all that stuff. So no question, it definitely keeps me motivated, but it's kind of a double-edged sword in both the best ways. Yeah. You know what pissed me off? That you spent four fucking months in the hospital and you had a tutor come in so you could keep up with school. Dude, oh my God. You insane. I was trying to get back here. Get out of here with this social study solution. You got our muscles back and you're like, it's actually I will not miss a beat in the class. Yeah. Why didn't you want it? You had to. The thing was is injured Chris's break sophomore year. So you missed the whole second semester and I was at a private Catholic school. I went there for hockey, but you know, education too. And it was one of those things where it's like, I didn't want to be a grade behind, right? So I was like, I want to get back day one of junior year with my class. So like, well, you've got to do school. And I was like, well, what don't I have to do? And I was like, well, you don't have to do science because you're learning science. Yeah. And I was like, and then they're like, all right. So you got to do, well, well, wave religion. And I was like, great. And then it was like math. It was math and English. So I was reading Macbeth during Jesus fucking. And I was like, there's a, oh, it was bad. But it was partly because it began while I was in the hospital. Like they had a random tutor. They did not go well because they're like, telling me homework is something that's and I'm not doing it. And then I got out of the hospital after four and a half months and I'm still doing it. My math teacher was my, his name's Jack Blah the way. He's like a hockey guru, like goat in the Minnesota world. Yeah, hell yeah. One of the people that was behind the 1980 Olympic team that convinced her how to train. He's like, that's the guy. Oh, amazing. Yeah. He ought to do like, not be in the movie because he's a guy who hates being in the spotlight. Yeah, just behind the scenes. Sorry, Jack. But he was like, her brooks is best friend and he's a PhD guy. So he was teaching me geometry. I hated geometry. I'm an algebra guy. It's kind of one of the other. And so he was doing that and he was like, it's really simple. It's hockey. And I'm like, this is nothing good with hockey. I don't like equations. So that was that eventually I just got by and they just gave me that. And then I essentially was like, had a friend's mom was like an English teacher and she's reading me Macbeth. And I'm just like, I love Macbeth. Like dark. It's just not what you need. It's dark. And I'm like, this is guys, what are we doing here? Yeah. And then essentially, I got out of the hospital and I would just be like, sleeping in the sun, like acting like I'm listening while she's reading Macbeth. And that was enough. Pass. It's great. Check the box. Junior's junior year day one. That's so funny. That's so cool. So funny. Well, listen, I had said, and I mean it, that the hockey world is so much better having you in it for so many reasons. And obviously, this foundation is so great. And all the work you do to raise awareness of that. And the other side that I think is just so amazing. Obviously, he did rivalry, massive, massive show. That came out. Yeah. Doing a great job to raise awareness. And we're seeing such an uptick in fandom in NHL. It's amazing. And it hockey in general. And you have been great and so vocal about being an open gay hockey person, a hockey player. And the show, obviously, that's amazing. But you're talking about the game in general. And there have been setbacks in professional sports, not just hockey, but then ways that we're growing and improving. And I think that we're seeing this really amazing uptick of awareness. And what has that been like for you? And can you speak to players who have reached out to you knowing that you're an open gay hockey person and personality and player of the past and what it's meant to you to see the improvements and areas where we still need to keep going and growing? Yeah, absolutely. And before we get into it, I do want to say, obviously, with some of the news that's happened in the past, I was extremely disappointed to see some of the stuff that came out. When I did come out a few years back, that source did reach out to me and was supportive. And I was especially new into the community, was extremely glad that I had support into it. So I was really disappointed to see some of the reporting that was on it, especially because of some misleading information and timeline, lack of credibility, and so on and so forth. So for some foremost, fully supportive of what you guys have done for both the coverage of the show and the support of those in the community, like myself. And on top of that, like you said, I think what the show is done, of course, it's not a, you know, on the ice hockey show. Yeah. Very much covers the other side of people's sexuality within the game. And for me, seeing what it's done for the sport is extremely promising. It's extremely welcoming. It's amazing to see people latch on. And of course, for different reasons, depending on which side of the, which way you swing. But for me, it's one of the things where the inclusion is all that anybody wants. Yeah. For me, myself, when I came out a few years back, it was so nerve-wracking. A, because I'm already working in an organization. I have private access. I'm in the locker room. I'm friends with players. I know a bunch of people across the sport in the NHL, so many different people. And all you want to do is just be yourself and not have anything change. And it was so nerve-wracking to come out to be like, well, am I going to lose my access? Or are they going to push me into different corners? Because people aren't comfortable with who I am. And it's one thing where when you're in the closet for a decade, you get in your own head. Definitely. You overthink everything. You think the worst possible scenario would my career be over, so on and so forth. So it's really awesome to see so many people embrace what this has done for the sport. Of course, ticket sales are up and so many different directions. It's amazing what it's done. And I think once you get past the realization that you're not watching the show to watch quality hockey, it's really amazing. I'm such a fan of what everybody in the show has done, how big they've been able to take this show and expand and publicly and be known and be in the talk of the town. It's really awesome. And I'm just extremely stoked that podcasts like you guys have been able to embrace it, be able to talk about it, and obviously with your guys film background, it's really neat to get your guys break down from a different perspective. Had you read the books? Absolutely not. Yeah. No, it's like it. It was fun. It was fun. Yes, I would. Way more guys. Yeah, he says we're fucking electric. Yeah, I mean, you started and you're like, oh, this started quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't we know? We keep saying like when we go back and look at our episode one review, we're like, what is going on here? This is like, I'm getting hot under the cold. It's just pouring. I didn't know until the shower scene. I was like, I thought it was going to just be like a hockey show. And then all of a sudden they're like cracking stick in the shower. Yeah. Oh, my god. You're like, guys, do we know what this is about? I was like, whoa, this is taking an interesting turn. And I was like, yeah, it was great. That is unbelievable. So are you a Shane and Nilea guy or a skip guy? Shane and Nilea. OK. Now what I will say is it's live having, I wish I would have lived this life. Yeah. But having lived their life through a emotional standpoint, it's so relatable in so many ways. Shane specifically was a Shane specifically for me. Yeah. Because of I need someone to like pull me out. Right? Like for me, it was having so many different feelings, feeling like you had to conform towards what everybody else is. And you had to fit in. You're forcing yourself to chase women, even though you're confused, but you're not totally sure. And it's complicated because I was 16 when I got injured. Yeah. It started pre-injury, but then obviously it led in post-injury, but my injury itself made so many things more complicated. Yeah, for sure. You're figuring out what you can and can't do physically from a life-stamping point, let alone who you are sexually. And so it was very interesting because I felt like so much of what I was watching in Shane was so much of what I went through, the stress of forcing things, but then trying to keep secrets in your head, but also not knowing how it's going to affect your career. And it was so relatable. Because if I would have continued playing, that was exactly what I was on track for at some point in my life. But at the same time, emotionally, and what he's going through on a daily basis, thinking and just so concerned about X, Y, and Z and the same thing with the parents, too. I had to obviously, at some point, have a conversation with my parents. I didn't have an Ilya, which would have been great, but... But... But I know. It's like, we're all drunk. Where are you eating out of this one? Exactly. But it's from a emotional and experiential factor. Or a perspective, they nail it. They really do. And it's really cool because I literally just felt like I was watching a documentary if I didn't get injured. And so, it's really awesome. I think they nail it. I'm very excited to see what happens in season two. Oh, yeah. Same. Don't read. Same with a savior. It's not a reader. As we know, I'm not from McBeth. Yeah, I'm not taking that. McBeth was my breaking point. Dude, that's sick. I think it's a cool testament to how much media entertainment matters because of the amount of people that have said this show, TV show, book gave them the courage to come out after seeing it. That's sick. That's why this stuff is important. Yeah, I'm like, that's what a story is. I'm fascinated and I'm fascinated to see when there comes a day where a hockey player, Publigee, comes out. And I hope that there's support not only from an external media standpoint, because of course there will be so many people who are supportive, but most importantly, the people within the locker room and the people that are in the sport. And there's the reality is, is a lot of hockey people can come from small towns that don't necessarily see life the same way as people like us who obviously support people who have that lifestyle. And I understand that if it's not the lifestyle that you support or it's not something you believe in, it's also not your life. And you should just be a good friend. And so I'm hopeful that teammates and we all know how important locker room is, right? Like it is everything. You can be a team, but are you a family? And if there is beef in the locker room, we've seen different situations and different players be moved around from teams because of things that happen. You just hope that this isn't something that can split a locker room or break something down. And I hope that there comes the day where this happens. And it's fully embraced both on the inside and the outside. Definitely. And just to button that up, I think it's so important for all of those things that you said to be able to come true. But part of it is what everyone else does. And I know it's a complicated question. But what are things that you see that you think are important for people like us to do or to keep doing to make this growth get bigger and bigger? I mean, I think you guys are doing the most important thing. And that's embracing it. I think it's a matter of inclusion. Like we want to be included, but we also don't want to be treated any different. I am who I am just because of what I find attractive and what I don't or, you know, again, I thought, yeah, I'm not getting into politics or anything, but the thought process of I'm choosing this lifestyle is beyond ridiculous. Like, why complicate so many more things that I have to, right? So it's one of those things where I just hope that people can continue to freely talk about how, yeah, it's, you know, people like me exist. It's it is what it is. It they're in every sport. And I understand why someone would want to keep it quiet. I did for as long as I felt I needed to until I finally got to be comfortable with who I was. And that that that point in everybody's life, no matter who you are, is is is different. So, you know, whenever someone does or, or, you know, wherever we cross that bridge, you just hope that it's embraced. You hope that it's supported and you hope that, you know, all we want to do is just be treated for who we are not because of some random thing that is a little bit different than someone else. I love what you said about the not being treated differently. Did you ever watch Ted Lasso? Yeah. I love so much because it was actually, you know, in the scene when I was when, when Colin comes out to the boys in the locker room. Yeah. As an athlete, like I just love that scene because you wonder and I can't even imagine for you. It's I can't think of the amount of times you must have played that over in your head if that ever ever happened. And I loved in that scene because when I was watching it, I was, they, I think it's Danny is like, yeah, you're gay. So what? We don't care. Yeah. And I love that sentiment because right after that Ted is like, well, hold on, we do care. And, but I think that's it, right? It's like, well, I care. I care that this is you and that you feel comfortable to tell us. But I actually do love the sentiment of like what you're talking about not being treated differently. Like, I don't give a shit. You're new. That's all. Yeah. The only thing I care about and what we all should care about is who you are right there. Exactly. And so it's like, I don't, whatever. Well, let's just be rocking. It's literally spot on and the courage and the vulnerability that it takes to be able to tell one person, let alone a fucking team. Yeah. Yeah. Like that, that it's, it's heartwarming. And it's, it's, you know, you hope that we can get to that point and, and where, you know, yeah, whatever. Okay. Yeah, we shower together, whatever. It's not like, you know, there's things that are going on there. It's like, dude, we're just getting clean. Yeah. It's orgy. Yeah. Yeah. Post game orgy. Come on. Literally just washing it. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. So, you know, it is what it is, but at the same time, it's so much more than what it is, right? Like, it's, it's, you know, I don't want you to care, right? But yeah, of course, like you care about your friend being well and, and having a healthy life or a healthy mindset, you know, you don't want people to be struggling internally because of the fear of someone else judging you for who you are. So, it's, it's this, you know, he derived his, has done so much for the sport already. It'll obviously continue to grow as, as season two and, and so on, comes out in the near future. So, I'm extremely excited to see where it goes. Okay. And hopefully it's continued to be embraced as we move forward. All right. Let's stop being so cute with each other. And let's talk about some hockey. Absolutely. I need the people to know you are a hockey not-fielder. And all your stuff is amazing. And you've been working a lot with the wild. Yeah, I've done some stuff with them. Yeah. Covering the wild. And I want to talk about them because I don't think there's been. The, the not top five powers. Yes, correct. The wild, right? Yeah, they did not make it. They did not, they did not, they did not, they did not, they did not, they did not top five cheese in the league. They could not crack hit over the Buffalo savers. I do try redlings. I do think the wild are as exciting as they've been in a long time. I can correct you. They're the, this is the most exciting they've been ever. Okay. Talk, talk to us about the wild. Like, why should fans be like, okay, this team can do something? And I want to say pre, because the quinn, I want you to get into kind of obviously. Yeah. But, but pre-quinn, there was a shift when they were not good. Like, you know, there were three and nine to start the season. And even after that, there was a stretch of still like, they haven't quite figured this out. Everybody was expecting big things. They gave Vegas a good run last year. You know, it was like, they did not, they started like, oh, wow, you were going to miss playoffs. Oh, it turned it in quinn. So yeah, it went on. It instantly went in. It was like the presob situation. Obviously, he signs his extension, but then every, all of a sudden they get out to a three and nine start. And you're like, well, do we, do we blow it up? Yeah, right. Yeah. Do blow it up. And, but you just got him. So what do we do? And so they finally hit the, you know, they finally got things going. It was a funky beginning to the year, right? Because you start with Zeeb William. And I still wholeheartedly believe this guy's got a very bright future. Like, I'm fully on board. It's unfortunate. I think he just broke a bone in his foot or something. And he's out for a little while, which is a real bummer because it's so important at this time for development and so on. But you've got him and you see these flashes, but then there's inconsistencies on the defense. So you're trying to push this guy because you feel like he's, you know, he is going to be a Quinn Hughes in the years to come. But, but it doesn't happen early. So they're trying to juggle that situation. And then you've got a few injuries and the wild seemingly are never healthy fully. But that's the NHL, especially in this day and age with how, how, you know, can never schedule it. Exactly. Exactly. So fucking real though. Like every time I look at the wild, you know, I pop on a wild game and I'm like, where's someone's on them? I'm just like, God, the team. Eric's an act out and out of here. But, but for the wild right now, it's, they're so exciting because you get Quinn Hughes and like you mentioned, they were all over the map pre pre-Coin Hughes. Like they had been on an absolute heater and then they trade from in the midst of a heater. So you're like, whoa, how did that work out? But you know, you move on from a few pieces. The Rossi situation was very interesting because it just never seemed like both sides were fully satisfied with each other. I know. Even with the extension, right? Even with the extension, it was fitting. I thought it was, you know, I thought it was actually a really good deal for both sides. Yeah. Both sides kind of came back to each other and were like, all right, let's just, let's just get this done with it. And that was great. But, you know, whether it was his agent and trying to strong arm, you know, Bill Gehrin, who Billy Balls doesn't bow to anybody. So, you know, it goes back a little bit and that can be complicated. And you also have to remember, like with Rossi, he had like a, he had a, he missed a whole year with his heart with his issue every year. So, you know, then it goes back years, but ultimately they move on from him and like you said, it just never seemed like it was going to be a long-term, you know, satisfying relationship between the both and they get Quinhus. And what Quinhus has done, of course, you know, you've second best defenseman in the NHL, right? And his ability to do what he does in the offensive zone and even in the defensive zone, it's like you now have two Capri Sobs because they play such a similar game. Such a fucking good take. I love that. The ability to be so unpredictable in the offensive zone in directional change and their vision, you know, these guys have the ability to stop and start and move left, right, back, forward. You know, it's, you know, the way I kind of compare it to is in Willy Wonka, when they use the fucking elevator. Yeah, they're, yeah. And all of a sudden they're going and like every direction in the middle of the air, like that's both of them in the offensive zone. Yeah. And even then that chemistry still hasn't worked itself out yet. But but what Quinhus has done, I think he has like 18 assists in the last 13 games. Like he's on pace for just like a hundred assists. Yeah. It's insane what he does. But for me, it's, it's not fully there yet. But at the same time, they're extremely sound defensively. Gustafson and Wallstead are probably the best duo or if not top five mid bear. Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, of course, at the same time, it's an issue and there's only one that, but you have consistency there to be able to rest Gustafson up so that he can make the run in the playoffs, assuming he's the guy. Okay. So that, I want that take from you. Yeah. Yeah. Because there have been a couple reports. I think Ellie Friedman was. And I'm glad you brought it up. Ellie Friedman was like, there's a chance that they use Wallstead in a trade. I would, that would blow my fucking mind. And to me, it would need to be a guy who, if they made the move to get rid of Wallstead, it would have to be for somebody who is in the mid-twenties. It's like under contract. Under contract. Yeah. For three year, like this is not a, let's go get Vincent Trocheck who's 30 something years old. I think Vincent Trocheck is going to get it. Whoever he goes to, it's going to be a haul for him. Yeah. I think he would make the wild better. I would not want to see Wallstead gone for him. Vincent Trocheck's a great player. That would be a terrible trade. I agree completely. Yeah. I think it would have to be for like a, like, does Ottawa fall out? And do they go after, do they try to go after like a cousin's, I could shock or a stutzah? Like now we're talking. Like that, that to me is much more up the realm of like, get me someone in that age. Yes. But dude, I would do that for a while. I would get Mike. 100% hard to get and freak stud young gold. Exactly. And the other sense for these other teams, I'm saying it doesn't make sense for Minnesota. Not unless you're going to go get me one of the guys that, like that, Ottawa if they fall out. Like they've obviously had a tumultuous year and, you know, hopefully things are on the right track with, and they're gold tending. Obviously, it's, that's been a crazy journey in the last month. But at the same time, they like, Wallstead, the other thing you have to consider is we just, we, the wild just extended, Gus, us into like a five year extension at the very beginning of the year. Trading him looks brutal. So now you kind of pigeonhole yourself into realizing that you got a guy here in Wallstead, that again, first round draft pick was always a very highly touted player. Even after the draft had some ups and downs with Iowa, but that wasn't his fault. Nope. The organization didn't have many bodies in front of him. So the wild now, after this first trade with Hughes, now they've got less options. You've got your of which you don't want to get rid of. Yeah. But you've got Strammel, who's an extremely highly touted prospect at Michigan State right now, who's lighting it up. Then you've got a few different, you've got a few different defensemen that you could move that are borderline NHLHL right now, but promising futures. So, you know, you're running out of your affix. You traded last year's first. You traded this year's first. What else do you have? It's going to take a package, but it all depends on what you get back. If you're going to move on. You want to be the goal. Oh, yeah. Good question. Yeah. Come on, dude. If you don't have to answer if you don't want to. No. Well, what's, give me a timeline for the playoffs or. I want both for the playoffs. And if you're a betting man, if you're, you know, if you're a wild fan, and you're looking at the future, but I'm saying like, if you're like, oh, can't keep both, I might as well get something for one of these guys. There's one net to your plate. Yeah. Well, if you're going to move on this year, I still think the one to move would be all stead. Yeah. Because of what you're going to get back. Yeah. Right. I think Gustav Singh could easily get a hall back as well. But I think you've got a bigger package coming your way to go get a true game changer. Of course, we, you know, the wild within, they need scoring. Can I throw a name at you? Yeah, please. What do you think about Robert Thomas? I'm not sure St. Louis is willing to get rid of him, but based on everything you just said, it's completely how I feel. That is the type of guy that if I'm Minnesota, I go, I can stomach that. I can absolutely stomach Robert Thomas. I think, I mean, I've watched him ever since he came into the NHL and he's, he's had a phenomenal career against the wild. Right. If you can't beat him by him. Yeah. So, so yeah, he's, he's a hundred percent a guy that I could see as a game breaker and let alone what Robert Thomas has done with the Blues, he would be playing between Karil Karpuse and Matt Sukarello or Boldi and Joe Hanson or something like that. They need depth scoring or top end scoring because you look at who's around them. They're going to have to go through Dallas and they're going to have to go to Colorado. So, you know, for the foreseeable future too, by the way. And then Chicago's coming. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, you know, this division's a gauntlet Utah, obviously, a borderline power is ranking five, like barely, barely missed the cut. So, so yeah, it's, it's a gauntlet of a division. And the other thing, the wild have to consider is, is special teams is, is so crucial. Like, I went back because it's probably what a 99.8% chance that you're going to get the Dallas stars in the first round. They've played, I think, they played in 2023 in the playoffs and since then the, the, head to head matchup between Dallas, special teams wise has been crucial because I think it was Dallas is a 33% power play clip against the wild. In that time, the wild are like 16%. Yeah. And, and the wild's penalty kill is, I think 27th or something in the NHL. They need help there. And obviously your goalie has to be your best penalty killer. I think both of them are phenomenal. Well, tenders to get back to that original question. I think it's Gustasons net until wallstead pulls out another tenonose. Yeah. And he had actually had a pretty crucial game earlier this week when he played Chicago. He did. He gave up three goals on the first 15 shots and that third goal against, I was my K of not a good goal. And then he stood on his head the rest of the game, killed off two penalties in the third, killed off of a four on three and over time. Hopefully that'll get wallstead going. And obviously the more he's winning, the higher your package can get if you choose to move him. You don't want to, but when it comes to what they have left in the prospect pool, if you're going to get a true first line center, he's probably going to have to be a part of the package. Yeah. That's true. I mean, I love that taken, but I'm glad we agree. It's like, you know, I keep seeing Nate, like hearing names like Nazum Codry, names like Vincent Tro check. And I'm just like absolutely not. You need a guy that's going to be there for the next five years while this core is still intact. Yeah. I mean, if you wouldn't got Brady Kachuk, that would be cool. So my God. All right. Let's shift over to the Kings because you've worked a ton with the Kings. And they are in one of the most interesting spots that they've been in in a long time. It's interesting spot. I would say interesting predicament. Yeah. Give us your take on the Kings. Like what do you, what can, what do you think this team is going to do this year? And then whatever it may be, I think we can agree. No spoilers. I don't see the Kings winning the Stanley Cup this year. No, nor do I, but I still think they're going to be buyers because they have to be hoping they're. They simply have. Profit tires announces retirement. You're not going to just let them finish 24th in the in the standings. Yeah. So they're going to go out and buy and they need goal scoring as well. Could they go big game hunting? You go for a penaren. Do you go for a guy like that who, you know, do they go after, you know, they got rid of Deno. Obviously that didn't work this year. He was extremely serviceable while he was with the Kings. But this year, it was a nightmare. It really was. I mean, you know, he had, I think one goal zero goal. I think it was literally zero goals. Like, you know, whatever was working and it was, it was great for a period, but you're right. Like, it's just that it wasn't what nothing was going. It wasn't going. And then the buy field emergence, but buy field also hasn't broken through yet. Right. Like, he, we really at this point, I think, thought he would be a point per game guy. Yeah. And someone that every single shift is asserting himself extremely noticeably. And, and you see that, but you don't see it every shift or you don't see it every game. And so that has to be a frustration point. But also I still think this guy is going to be a phenomenal superstar. So, so does he continue to take that step forward? Obviously, you have to be extremely satisfied with the way that Lafayette is playing. He is taken over as kind of the heartbeat of that, that offense or at least that forward group right now. And he's looking good as a center. Yeah. And, you know, it's, we always talk about. Which he didn't expect in that. At all. So, does, you know, next year, obviously they're going to have seven mill off the cap with Copa Tars contract, but you also have to figure out roster construction, right? Not to mention, uh, Kempi's contracts bumping up next year. So, yeah, you lose a few mill there. So, that's one point. Obviously, the bump in the cap is a great help to everybody. But, but they're going to be buyers. It's just a matter of where do they, they fit in that offense because, you know, you've got a funky top nine where Armias been maybe your best player the whole year. I, yeah, I'm so glad you said that. I genuinely think there's a case for Armi to be considered the most consistent player on the Kings this year. Maybe Clarky. Yeah, Clarky and, and credit to him, man. They're actually it's Darcy. Darcy for, yeah, but we're talking about skaters. Yeah, yeah, for skaters for sure. I mean, Darcy's been unbelievable and the backbone because obviously this is a defense first team. This is a team that relies on having, you know, nine, 15 save percentage. And if they don't, they're not a team that's made to be able to be comfortable playing from behind, right? You know, you can't play a six five game multiple times in a month for the Kings, right? And so, you know, the defense first, they're not going to do anything with the defensive core because they just recently signed. And, and, and Dumo, but, you know, it's funny. I want, I'm glad you brought that up. Going into the season, I mean, we even had a chat about this. I feel like a ton of people were like, uh, the Kings deed doesn't look that good. Here they are. They're top five in the NHL. You know what I think is interesting. Like, it's unbelievable. And a lot of that has to do with Darcy, but like this, I actually love this degroup. Like they're playing so well every game. I think this is interesting with what, what Holland did with the D because I think Holland built a defensive core that can succeed in the playoffs. And I, I wholeheartedly agree that this six can do that. Yeah. The caveat, I don't think this six can do that against the Edmonton Oilers. Fair. Now, they're not on track to play each other, which is a huge bonus for the city of Los Angeles. And they're, their chances of making it to the second round and beyond. They have to make the playoffs first and they're not in a playoff position right now. So I agree in the aspect of, you know, their top five indeed, their top five and say percentage with Darcy's on the ice. And they have that, but they also don't have the offense producing. Copa Tar has taken a little bit of a step back. Kempe has not had the season. I think most people had hoped within the organization. And byfield hasn't produced offensively consistently enough. So you need more out of what's going on up there. But you also have to find some offense somewhere else. I know. To bring in the ability to have different players have off nights and pick up the slack because a different guy shows up. And when some of the superstars haven't shown up, the other guys haven't. Yeah. It's such a predicament because, you know, I've said it a number of times whenever it's brought up. I would put this team against any team in the NHL as far as the group. Like they are truly the best collection of guys in the world. They love each other that they play for each other. They have great leadership. And when I look at the roster with guys like Copa and, you know, just talking forwards here, guys like Laf, Juice, Morsy, Fogel, Q, Koozy, Fiala, like there is so much talent there that I am like it's a predicament because the D has been playing great. Like we said, the top five or so in the league and goals against, they just don't score. And it's like, what is it whether it be a player, whether it be a system structure change that gets all these guys going? Because like, if these guys get going like we know they can. The issue is, you're like, the issue is, you can't really change structure too much in the middle of the season. For sure. There's no practice schedule because of the game schedule. You've got, you know, great. You've got two weeks off, but half the team is overseas. The other half is, you know, in Cabo. In Cabo for a week or whatever. So what do you do, right? Like, I think it's a combination of, you still need more out of a lot of what you're not getting in certain players. You know, offensively from the blue line, you love to see the steps that Clark has made this year. But you also still want to see the offense from Drew. It hasn't totally been there. And let's be honest, the rest of that decore is not known for offense, right? The defensive guys, for sure. Exactly. They're not going to lead the NHL on the blue line and scoring, but they also still need to score and they haven't. So, so that's an area. But at the same time, when you look at up top, you know, you, you hope that copatar once he gets back and healthy can, you know, enjoy this little, you know, legs up break with, a little bit of an injury and hopefully he can kind of get back to that last push in his career. And hopefully that can spark a little bit. And I think at the same time, knowing that it's copatars last year, I think you're going to get an extra spark from a lot of people. I agree. Who are going to realize like, we're about to misplacize. We're up guys. We're not going to miss the playoffs with copies last year. And that'll be huge. Holland knows that. The team knows it. So I expect to push. I think it'll be a push both from a transactional standpoint and from an internal locker standpoint realizing the severity or the magnitude of what this last season means for the greatest king of all time. They're a bit saved by the Pacific too, right? Like if you do the central team, by the way, you just slipped in greatest king of all time. I heard it. I heard it. It's like on that. Who did I say? I think you're, you're a glazer and you say, Wayne. Yeah. I think in my mind, I'm like, Wayne, isn't long enough. I hear you. But my caveat is Wayne is the greatest player to ever play for the kings, but he's not the greatest king. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's certainly he's he's substantial in having hockey here. And what it's done not only for the kings in Southern California, but you've hockey, so and so forth. The game is expanded immensely because of him. Yeah. Most important king. Maybe. Yeah. Not the greatest. Yeah. Okay. I like that. I like that a lot. Well, pretty much any other division, maybe the men, but like, you know, they'd be in, they'd be in real trouble where I'm like, it's too late, but you're saved by the Pacific here where you can go, hey, guys, maybe we go big game hunting. That would be help too, but we've got to come back and elevate internally. I also think one of the things that on the downside because of that is there's going to be multiple teams that are going big game hunting being like, dude, this is this could be our year because no one's taking true. Vegas has been extremely underwhelming. Yeah. I just had to see how Raspus Anderson fits in and I assume a contract extension is inevitable, given how that organization works when they make a big trade. Isn't it crazy that that's just going to happen? Well, it's, I mean, there's different strategies, right? Like how many people value the first down draft pick or the second and so on. And so, you know, I think in analytical speaking, maybe we value the first down draft pick a little bit too much. Actually, when they're drafting 24th to 29th or 30th every year, you know, it's not your fifth overall pick. But, you know, and again, it differs every year and the depth of the draft or how you analyze who's good at that at range. But ultimately, you've got Vegas who is the one seed, but isn't dominating. Right. Like they haven't really won anybody. At all. Like you said earlier, like they've got less wins than San Jose or something. Is that crazy? San Jose is going to continue to buy. Well, they're not, they're not selling pieces off unless they're going to get better. And that's extremely promising. And on top of that, you know, Seattle's still in it. What do they do? Like there's multiple teams. So Edmonton, you know, of course, they're going to try to add who knows what their cap situation, what they can afford at this route. In flanahime. I mean, these teams are all going to be like, we're in this. We can make a run because this division is wide open. Exactly. We're going to be buying and who buys the most who can afford to, you know, ante up whatever is in their prospect pool. And on top of that, if you go back to the Kings, they've got three NHL-esque prospect goalies. Yes. There's only one net. It's the same issue as Team USA. Correct. Not all three are going to be playing. Now, you know, you've got time. You've got developmental leagues. They're all different timelines because of Carter George and the OHL and Hansen Sookinski and the college and then the Pateri Rampinan and Finland. So they're all in different timelines, but only one's going to be able to play in the net every night. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. And if you're a player, by the way, and you're looking where the Kings are maybe headed as this core kind of ages out and you're getting calls from the ducks and from the sharks and from the Kings. And you know, maybe talking trades and extensions. I'm like, probably rather go to those other two California teams. You know, that's a factor to when you're trying to bring in people right now. And one of the things I do think the Kings guys need to do a better job of is there are a few better places to play in the NHL than in LA. Like it's, I think it's almost like they protect the bubble that they have. Like it's the self-made. We all live in the same area. I mean, I live right in the same area. Obviously you guys are right down the road. Like it's paradise. It's paradise, Jack. Like more players need to figure it out. It's been funny even pairs. You know, played for Anheim forever. Like getting here, he was kind of like, damn, this is sick. Yeah. You're living blocks from the beach. Yeah. You're in a bubble where you're not dealing with Toronto pressure. Nope. You wake up and it's sunny out. Every day. You can go to the fucking beach and go surf before practice. Yeah. Just ask what I follow. Yeah. So it's the perfect life. And I understand that everybody prioritizes what you like in life or what you want in a hockey team or preference of living. Like, I think you look at Zegress. He was a great example of someone who actually didn't love it. Yeah. Like he's an old depression. He's an old depression. On the other side. On the other side, right? Like what a fucking killer. Yeah. Like give me the snow. Like give me, you know what, I want a Philadelphia winner. Like what? You're right. Yeah. Oh, we should have viewed it. We should have checked that. But some people are like that. The majority of the people I would say this is probably a preferred lifestyle. And coming from Minnesota, my injury complicated things because I lost my ability to control my body temperature. So I'm always cold. Yeah. Sunshine and warmth is what I strive for. Yeah. And so this is paradise. But I mean, you guys cold climate. This is exactly where life, you come here and you go, do they realize this is an option? So yeah, 100% I agree in terms of the realization of, oh, you're telling me I can play hockey in this weather? Yeah. So yeah, I agree completely. But LA specifically, Orange County's great San Jose, you know, all these warm climates are great. But I truly don't think there's a better living situation and a better lifestyle to be living than a hockey player in Los Angeles. It's hard to top. Well, dude, clearly you are a brain. And you know this world so incredibly well. So tell us and tell everyone, you know, what you're doing now, what you got going on now, what you're trying to do more of and where everyone can find you and all that. Yeah, totally. So I mean, I departed from the Kings in August. Yeah. And this year, I mean, I've been all over this year in terms of figuring out the next steps other than just knowing that life in hockey media is the direction I am frankly kind of made for or moving forward with. And for me, you know, obviously social media is the best place to start with Twitter. Obviously, that is where a lot of my content is while I'm in the midst of figuring out the next step of where home base will be, whether it's sticking just through podcasting, it's through shows or editorial. I'm all over the map right now, but social media is the best place to start and continue into push content out through my web show and trading jabs and stuff like that. So obviously, have you guys on in the near future? Yeah. And we got to, you know, the door is quite literally always open. So we got to get you back in here, hopefully, as the wild make moves and the Kings make moves, we got to get you all to do all that deadline stuff. Absolutely. I'll be here. Yeah. We're right at the road. Like get back. And it's right down the road. Just sunshine. Bees the whole way. Yeah. Just, yeah. I'll just take the strand and, you know, it might take a few extra minutes with a maximum of seven and a half miles in the chair, but I'll start out early. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In addition to all the content, can you tell everyone where they can find stuff on the foundation and any donations people can make, how ways we can all continue to support and stuff like that? Yeah. Absolutely. So what I think is where the Jackson-Wolensky Foundation information is, we have multiple different events mainly in Minnesota and here out in LA. I've got a pickle ball tournament in Los Angeles. So we'll get you guys out there and involved in I think it normally is in June. So we'll get that going up again. But ultimately, yeah, any donations, it goes to Spinal Credential Research. We're on the cusp of some really promising things within Spinal Credential. Improvements and what we've learned within the research world. So it's, you know, ironically, there's no time better to be in a Spinal Credential. I guess that's a positive. I love that. You want fuck yeah. That's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah. No, it's, you know, very fortunate to have been given the opportunity of life that I have post injury and ultimately just making the best of it and why not talk some hockey while we're doing it. Exactly brother. We're just going to keep living. I love it. Well, dude, thank you so much for coming on. Like I said, long overdue and glad to be on more and more more more and more and more will be in touch and I'll see you guys soon. Oh yeah. Massive, massive thanks to Jack. 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This product contains nicotine and nicotine is an addictive chemical. Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, welcome back my good friend. Professor Fini, how are you feeling? Fantastic. Fantastic. The Megapale live on the beach. There are only nine games, gentlemen. We thought we could do it. No, we were we were over 500 and frankly I'll take that as a win because things were not the best the week before but I think you have some explaining to do my friend. Well, perhaps not me, perhaps someone that we will get to, not you, not you, not you. Excuse me. I thought I did. No, no, it's not you. It's not anyone in this room to be quite frank. Fair enough. Megapale recap. I'll know. No, Mahmuth, yes, Bruins, yes, Keynes, yes, both no, Wings, yes, Kings, yes, Wild, no, Caps, no, five and four. Not the best but again, Daniel, please do worse. We could always do worse. Now the life on the line recap and we just we've vowed we vowed to be better here and the results have been have been closer but not all the way home yet. And this surely should have been the one life on the line recap, Keynes, yes, Bruins, yes, Mahmuth, yes, both no, three and one. Now yes, it was it was I picked the boats for the second week in a row I might add it was it was the best team in the league. I lose that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, they all lose on Saturdays. It is a thing. Crazy. It is grace. The boats. Here's the thing, gentlemen. I we make these selections on a Wednesday. It is a Wednesday. I am unaware who is going to play golly who's going to play keeper on Saturday. I assume Vasilevsky will play. I did not know Jonas Johansson was going to get eight ball corner pocketed on Saturday against the fucking blue jackets. I did not know that. So I don't play to place blame on myself. You were painted into a corner. I'm afraid by Sir Jonas. Now I will say to switch things to a more positive note. The Friday fade continues to be the most consistent thing on the internet. It's unbelievable. It faced the Friday fade faced its toughest test going the flyers with the flyers traveling to Colorado against a juggernaut avalanche team who has lost once at home in regulation all year and we selected the flyers and the flyers absolutely bamboozled the avalanche dummy them seven to three. Oh, the flyer. I am starting to think the Friday fade has a bit of magic behind it. The flies went up one nothing and I thought what I should screenshot this because it will not come home. What a moment this is. Yes. The next thing I know is seven three. A truly remarkable remarkable result. And I suppose the I said the toughest test was flyers at apps because of the matchup. But gentlemen, to this week could actually be the toughest test because the fade faces one game. There is one Friday game on the slate blue jackets at Hawks, which I wouldn't have called a fade at all in the first place. There is neither team feels as they are an obvious winner. And the whole point of the fade is when you know one team will win the other team wins. Which makes this an absolute conundrum. This is a conundrum. Therefore do we fade both the over? Oh, I don't know if that's allowed to be honest with you. It could be. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you are absolutely correct. You must select someone to hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. On three, on three, I am going to ask, oh, I'm going to ask the question right now, who wins this game actually? Ignore the fade. Don't answer. On three, say who wins this game in your mind. And if we all say the same thing, then we take the other two. Correct, correct, correct. On three gentlemen, who wins this game? Are you ready? Are you ready? Or black? We're going to say three, two, one, and then we will say who wins this game? Three, two, one. Hugs. Oh, jackets. Fuck. Fucking hell. So we have two Hugs. So maybe we, maybe that means that we take the jackets as the fade. I think we should take jackets as the fade. Take the jackets as the fade. The Hugs are home. So the Hugs are home. That is a f***ing thing. I bet they're favored. I surely they're favored. Just say they must be. I surely they're favored. Oh, there we have it. We will fade the Chicago black Hugs at home. Therefore, we are taking the Columbus Blue jackets money line. Excellent. Excellent work. Excellent work. That's the guy with this theory. That was a geometric proofs. We're solving geometric proofs now. We are incredible. Incredible. Now take us, Professor, to Saturday. Brings us to the Saturday, Sally. We hit select David Pasenock to torment the Habitat. The Bruins did win. Paster did record and assist. And that's it. He did not score. Fuck. It's okay. We will onto something. This Saturday, the Sally will come home. Here are some candidates that I have flagged for the team. A few bullies has nine goals in 12 career games versus the Euler's. But he is on the road. Incredible. Incredible track record. Maclin, Celebrini, four goals in six career games against the flames. Also on the road. You know I hate to road, Sally. Sydney Crossbeak, four T goals in 90 career games hosting the Rangers in Call, Carfield, eight goals in 17 career games versus the Savus. I would like to go with my blood. We should take young Maclin, Celebrini against the flames on the road. It does not matter. He will be our anytime goal scorer and Saturday, Sally. He can score anywhere done. Maclin, Celebrini, anytime goal scored, which brings us to the Sunday, Patrick Parley. Last week, it was Vegas Golden Knights versus the Ottawa senators. We had the Vegas money line. We had under 6.5 in an Eichel Point. The senators won 7 to 1 and Eichel was pointless. Ab just shambolic. Shambolic display from the professors this past week. We must get back on track. It's terrible. The Rasmus Edison with a worth was called fuck yourself. Congratulations. You first, you twat. Now our matchups this week are the Kings at Canes, Bruins at Boltz and Knight at Ducks. The question, gentlemen, is if this week the Sunday, Patrick Parley must be stadium series? I almost feel like it must have given the viewers something to do. No, no. The stadium series. We'll be watching stadium series regardless. The outdoor games are too difficult to predict. But stick with Kings, Canes, I love the under. I love a Jarvis Point. New pick the money line. Canes money line at home. Wow. Canes money line. Under 6.5, Seth Jarvis Point. And if you are interested in participating in a stadium series, an extra sprinkle, my a sprinkle of stadium series, I think because we always, always, always as a rule, take the home team in an outdoor game. They slept in their beds, their families are here. It's a party. Everyone is enjoying themselves. In that case, we will take Tampa money line. And because there's never good, I said, an outdoor game. We always, always, always as a rule, take the under because no one can score because they're not out. So we take under 6.5 and we will take in Nikita Kutraoff Point because, of course, an extra Sunday, Patrick Parley. If you were interested in the stadium series, phenomenal. Now take us to the Saturday Live on a beach parlay. We have 14 games. Nelia Frenzy. Professor Christopher, read them through and we shall begin. Nelia Frenzy, I shall start this week. Christopher, Kings at Flyers. Flyers have been a lovely, lately. But you know what? Give me the Kings. Give me the Kings. Love. Professor Fini, Avs at Wings. Avs. Yes, I love that. Daniel Rags at Pens. I will take the ironically hot penguins. Correct. Christopher, Jets at Cats. Give me cats at home. Professor Vini, Sharks at Flames. It's just two amazing, amazing teams. I will take the sharks though. Yes, the sharks on the road with a Mack goal with a Mack goal. We should track how many times this any time goal score that we select their team wins. And we should use that moving forward. If we were true professors of the educational realm, we would use data. Maybe some academics. Academics. Christopher, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, Pains at Cats. I will take the canes. I don't believe the caps are playing the best. Caps in a bit of a rock. Right now. Caps in a bit of a rock. Christopher, Habs at Sabers. Give me the Sabers, Brilliant. Oh, Professor Fini, Devils at Sends. Devils. Devils, yes. Devilish pick. It's a fuccum. Devilish pick. Daniel, Preads at Isles. I believe in the new fun of the Islanders. Jackets at Blues, PUTRED game. PUTRED, PUTRED game. Give me the Jackets. Interesting. Professor Fini, Leafs at Canucks. Ah, Canucks. Yes, sir. Yes, sir, Fini. Devastating blow for the Maple Leafs that pick. TME. I love it. Yes. Daniel, Stars at Mammoth. I will ride the mammoth. Really? Yes, excellent. Trees of a Wild at Oilers. Ah. Tricky one. Tricky, curious. Give me the Wild. Professor Fini, Kraken at Night Sponk, Fini. Sponk at Night. Ah, they've burnt me before, so I'm going to have to go nights. Yes, this book always does get Fini. The Wild Sponk always gets Fini. Live on a beach, ladies and gentlemen, Kings, Avs, Pens, Cats, Sharks, Canes, Sabers, Devils, Isles, Jackets, Canucks, Mammoth, Wild, Wild and Nights. Now, brilliant. Live on the line, boys. Live on the fucking line. One time, four and no, one time. TME, how would you like to meet me? You tell me, Daniel. No, no, no, no. I think you are the one who needs a breakthrough, so you tell me which. You're right. Okay, then let's alternate. I like the alternate, but you start. I do as well. Because I started last time and you start. I shall start. Our first pick. And the life on the line, Parley. I like, I enjoy, not looking. I enjoy hearing these in real time. You simply must. The Vegas flu won't make you a chew, but it will surely knock you flat on your back. In Sin City things aren't always pretty, and it's not just chips. You'll be starting to lack. Crack and come with a storm, but it's them you should warn. You might lose a kidney and wake up in the tub. If you're somehow manned down, take a look around town. The boys might still be in the strip club. Vegas money. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Vegas money line. Leg number one. Leg number one. All right. Leg number two. Leg number two. Here we go, gentlemen. Crosby, Carlson and Tanger are a dangerous three. Ready to give New York a shot to the kidney. But the rag say they aren't scared of a star with double d's. But I say that's the wrong Sidney. Give me the backwards. Give me the backwards money line. Leg number two. Leg number two. Leg number two. You are despicable, sir. Dispicable. Our next leg. What can I? Our next leg in the life on the Lion Parley. It's the new team of dreams and they're picking up steam. Sabers fans could all this be true. Yomo is in. Now they're starting to win. Play off Buffalo would be an absolute zoo. But the Habs come to play. Call scores every day. They don't believe in this new Buffalo fable. But the fans will come out and you can have no doubt. They're ready to fuck Montreal through a table. Sabers money line. Sabers money line. Leg number three. Incredible work, Daniel. Incredible work, Daniel. All right, then the fourth and final leg of the life on the Lion Parley. The shakies have stunned winning so many games. Well, Calgary stinks like a lavatory. Watching 19-year-old Maclin fuck the flames is nearly statutory. Sharks money line. Sharks money line. Leg number four. Vegas. Sabers. Pens. Sharks. You belong in a prison, my friend. That is our life on the line, ballet. Those are the picks from your professors. The battle has run. Glasses dismissed. Dear Lord, we all need help us please. Help us please. Thank you, professors. And before we get to our game to close on the episode, I gotta give a shout out to my OG crew. The people over at AMC Network stand. Okay. Kelly Nash, the old McDonald's, the whole gang. Okay. We have a show and I gotta tell you to the listeners. I worked at AMC, the TV channel for a long time, making all kinds of shows. Great people. All kinds of shows, a tons of which I am extremely proud of. And the second I walk out the door, they bring in the greatest TV show of all time. The millisecond. And in fact, and they would tell you, I'll get Kelly Nash on the phone right now. She'll tell you that this pitch came in while I was there. And I was like, we have to do this. We have to do this show. And you know, it was, I'm not, I'm not taking credit. Okay. But we, I worked on it and I worked on it and I said, all right, I'm leaving. But I really hope this happens. And then it morphed. There was a thing and it was close to trying to get a green line. I don't know if it was going to happen. And then it morphed and became what it is now. But it doesn't exist without me. And I stand by that. And now it's finally coming out and Sean, you don't know me that well. But I imagine you will appreciate when I tell you that my friends at AMC have made a show called The Rise of the 49ers Married It and Executive Produced by Tom Brady. They've been at his fucking house, dude. Tossin' the football around with it. And you missed that. And I missed it. And I'm like, are you insane that I work there for a decade and can't get a face face with Tom? You better get like a special thanks in the credits. Dude, I am dead ass. If Mary does not say thank you to Chris, just start with that. If Tom should be saying it. I can't believe that they didn't just at least send you a picture while they were with Tom. Oh, they did. Oh, he'll call, dapp me up. I have so many picks. And you should have been like, I don't need a special thanks. I just want a text from Tom that just says, hey, Chris, wish you could have been here. That would have done it all, bro. I want to tell it all, dude. Maybe I can still get that. Maybe I can still get that. Holy smokes. Okay, so it's called the rise of the 49ers. It's a two-night limited series event. It's this Sunday. So we'll be at the stadium series this Sunday February 1st and then Monday February 2nd. It's on AMC and AMC+. It is insane because they got everybody. So essentially it's about, no, dude, they do have everything. This show has everything. Yeah, it's for, it's like for football fans out there, you just crave sick docs like this. Yeah. And those fans, fans, that are sick for fans. That's our second. We're people at AMC would be like, we can't get, we would get cool sports pitches. And they'd be like, we're not a sports network. We can't compete. But I was like, no, sports fans will find it. If it's a cool doc. If the last dance, Michael Jordan's last dance, hadn't been on Netflix, had been on Paramo. You think Bull's fans would have been like, I'm not watching that. Yeah. I assure you, they would watch 10 hours of Michael Jordan interviews, wherever it is. So that's what I'm excited about for this. If you were a football fan, especially a Niners fan, it is that gold rush 1981 to 1995, five Super Bulls. And like I said, they, Joe Montana is there. Jerry Rice is there. Steve Young is there. Every big name that you want to hear from is doing interviews on this show, chopping it up with Brady. Because he was a fan, he was a Niners fan growing up because he grew up in the Bay Area. So it's like his experience watching that team go from, go into NHL or NHL. And you're not going to NFL superstar them. You know, it's absolutely not stood. And it's sick because there's kind of a rivalry between the eras of those Niners teams. Like it was Joe Montana, then this other quarterback, Steve Young, took over. And like those two sneaky aren't their aren't best friends. You know, because it was Joe's team and then Steve came. And it was like, and Jerry Rice kind of get like bridges the gap and just catching tuddies from both. But it's awesome to see them both feel like they are NFL royalty. But also being like fuck that guy, fuck that guy. But it's like that's few. The NFL is intense. Yeah. That's what this shows about. It's going to be insane. So Sunday February 1st, 9 p.m. Eastern followed by or the remaining two episodes on Monday, February 2nd, two night event, rise of the 49ers. We're going to put the trailer in this YouTube. So just keep watching and you'll see it. But it is going to be incredible, huge shut up to the AMC crew. I am so incredibly and extremely and passionately jealous. Yeah. Didn't get to you if I had this. I'm so bummed for you. You're so excited. But what a way to channel that by fucking pumping it up. Oh, dude, yes. Go on celebrating. Because guys, I've seen, you know, I'm probably getting Kelly in trouble now, but I've seen some shit. She sent me some shit. And it is the behind the scenes never before seen stuff. That's what you always crave in an English genre. Oh, for sure. Certainly a sport stock. Yeah. Like this is totally shit. I've never as a as a fan as a as a mega fan of a Tom Brady. For example, you feel like you've devoured every piece of content ever. Yeah. When you get unheard interviews, un unseen clips, all that stuff. That is that is football pork. So that's what you're going to get here. So I cannot wait. So my family had season tickets to the San Francisco 49ers. That alone made me fall in love with football. That was Joe Montana. passes Jerry Rice. Rice is man. The model for winning is a star quarterback. It's hard to measure once in people's desire. I'm a competitor. You have a Jerry. Never thought that I was going to get drafted by the San Francisco 49ers. It's a race touchdown in a Ronnie. The way that we went about fighting for inches, we're going to climb the hill. Then here comes Steve. I was a left handed scrambler. I'm talking about an oddity. Look at the things they're trying to do. This is a football of the 80s. This city deserves a winning barclad. Eddie DeBarrlow said, all I want is for you guys to win. They're going to wash. They call them the genius. The West Coast offense, nobody else was doing it. If you ran it right, it was unstoppable. Joe Montana was all of a sudden one of the hottest names in America. Montana is down. The title's take part because silent. To suddenly have the greatest quarterback to ever play the game, get yanked. He was the best in the game and I was trying to be. Game on. I'm better than he is. Off we go. Steve Young comes on. Here comes Joe Montana. Steve Young. And now Joe Montana is coming back in again. All this man thought about trying to have a competitive advantage. Here we go. We have the pressure to win or you fail. That made it very, very difficult. There was a high level of expectation for greatness. And in the end, they changed the city. For this team, for this coach, for this honor, for this town they'll never forget this day. No one could appreciate what we went through and how great it was being part of a dynasty. I don't know that it isn't the best team it's ever been. All right, let's play game, Dan. Let's play game and get out of here. Yeah, let's wrap up this game and this one is called connective tissue. So I'm going to give Chris the bio of two players. Their name's connect. He needs to figure out who it is. Good example is Brandon Carlogen Cachor. Nice. Are you ready? Yes. Okay. Selected in the first round of the 2015 draft. This player has only played for one team. Ooh, he signed a big $70 million extension two years ago after showing fans he was much more than a greedy two way forward. He even represented Canada last year for nations. He then was the highest pick ever at fifth overall in 2010 for an NHL player from his country until the devil selected Niko Hecher first in 2017. He played for the islanders wild canes and preads before ending up with the jets where he's been since 2023. Okay. Fifth over on 20 fucking 10. What are you insane? 2010 it's wrong with that and He is played everywhere and he's on the jets now. Correct. He's on the jets He went fifth over all and he's old. He's old is sin. He's not that old. He's like 33 old is dirt Jesus Christ, all this dirt and just piece of shit You know that so it's so ironic coming from you given the fact that you're basically dead Yeah, I'm thousand years older than everyone we ever talked about Okay, he's old as shit on the jets old as shit on the jets Okay, I can think of people on their roster none of whom are old except for one guy But he is definitely not from where Nico he sure is from which I think is Swiss Yes Okay, and then give me the first guy selected in the first round of the 2015 draft This player has only played for one team. He signed a big 70 million dollar extension two years ago after showing fans He was much more than a gritty two way forward Even represented Canada last year at foreign nations Okay, so a gritty two way forward 70 million extension two years ago. He's on the foot for one team. Yep. Still playing for the team of draft to them. Yep Okay, so I'm gonna try to think of Team Canada 2020 15. Yeah, this one. It's a very famous draft for you Think about it 2015. That's the bees. That's that's the disastrous Boston draft. Yeah, that's the bees draft Okay, so on that team You've got and forgive me, but I'm just gonna do this Do you want hints? No, no, no, yeah, cuz I'm just gonna try to think of the forwards really quickly. It's like McKinney and Connor said Marner Stone Different teams different teams not gritty Sam Sam Reinert different team Bennett That's Bennett been on one team You know that that you know that He's only been on one team his whole life nope Did Tom Wilson make four nations You want me to tell you nope? He made the Olympics, but was he on that foreign nation's team? I think he wasn't He was on that but maybe he was I Think you might need a hint. Give me a hint This first player is considered by some a Top 10 player in the league Really top 10 player in the lead that is a cheeky hint for you Considered by some. Yeah Okay Four nations gritty two way forward Only one team there's a hint in that part two first rounder. Yeah Okay And oh my god We just fucking relax. It's good phones all over the place is terrible terrible radio Well, it's hard when you're alone like when I do this with you guys in the game You're right. I know but you're all just do you want more hints? No Swiss I'm trying to think of Swiss guys on the jets Sweet I tell is the do you have a hint for the second guy? I can get one. No, no Is he a forward? Yeah You already told me that or no you didn't tell me that oh I Think I got the first guy, okay? JP yep, you got it. I was like who the fuck is talk dead that I don't know Okay, the first guy is Travis connect me that's correct. So the second guy who is a Swiss guy in the jets? Well, do you use the use the game connect me me? Nico nope fuck. Oh, yeah, not Nico. He sure I suppose I could have made it a little bit easier by doing Nico. He sure but this is also a player that you should get Got a great name Me no Neater-eider. Yes, we just came up today He sure did it episode like what the fuck damn dude. That's good one. Yeah, wow funny that both the Swiss dudes would have worked But the two highest I know Swiss guys would have worked. I love knee names Travis connect me no need a rider correct Wow great one really really really good Travis connect me no need a rider There you go. There is your game. There is your episode make sure you cash those professor bets Hope you enjoyed it. Hope you enjoyed Jack unbelievable story. Thanks for coming on again Jacko Guys we'll see you at stadium series. We're gonna be pumping out a lot of content over the weekend It's gonna be a blast hope to see you there if you were there if you are come up to us give us a big hug Let's chat. 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