259: Horror Hot Takes (and More)

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What have you all done? Step it up. Yeah. So, you know, starting the year off a little. Last year, we just were talking about the fires started real fast. But I think that was a year ago. I think it was January 7th that the LA fires began. So this year it was like, we can beat that. We can have a crazy thing happen sooner than seven days in. Sure. And it sure did. So we're going to ease into it. We decided to just kind of ease into it with a podcast and do a mailbag episode answering questions. Yes. So we're starting off with a chill episode kind of catching up. We did enjoy Avatar 3 if you're curious. Thumbs up. Frank, Frank. I just, I don't know why, how that's allowed. We can't let, we can't keep letting him get away with it. Like the MPAA has stopped worse than Verang's sultry walk. I guess it's like, we get it, Corritch. Oh, yeah. Immediately. That's what's going to make him turn against the RDA. Oh, the military? Yeah. Yeah. She could be what saves us all. And by us, I mean the Navi. Anyway, so enjoy that. Yeah, I guess let's start going through some. Yeah, what do you got? Some questions. Here's one that, this is something we talk about all the time and I think is a fun discussion topic. Tim Stevens, 5893 asks, if dead meat wasn't a thing, what would you be doing for work? And I kind of want to expand that to, because I think this is more interesting. If we were not working in film, what would we be doing? Because I was going to say probably being hungry. Yeah, I guess just like working up that, you know, like a supervisor post-production. Do you think we'd both be in post-production? Like if we're talking entertainment. Probably because I think now I could maybe be an actor, but that's only because I'm comfortable and confident. And I don't know if I would have that comfort or confidence if it wasn't for dead meat success. So I think I would have just like stayed in post-production working in that. I like to think I still would have started pursuing voice acting. Yeah, probably. Yeah. But you're right. Let's consider it no entertainment. Right. Because that's like a broad field. I think that's kind of fun. I don't know if I would have pursued it, but I do think that I would make a good lawyer and then judge, especially a judge. I think I would be a very good judge. You'd be one of those judges that goes viral for like, be like, this judge gives epic like sentencing. And it's like, I'm giving you your chance to get your life together and they give a really lenient sentence. You'd be a benevolent judge. Yeah, maybe. And be like, I know this kind of viral video with inspiring music on it. Yeah. I could also see though the pursuit of fairness being. See, that's the thing. I think that could happen at first. And then people would like glom onto me at thinking me in one way. You're a nice judge. But then since I would be impartial and fair and by the letter of the law, they would be very disappointed when it would be like ACLU was 10 years ago. You turn into like a Hank Hill kind of like his view of fairness. I don't know. We just watched that new King of the Hill season. And I just think of him when he is it when he takes an Uber and he rates him four stars. He's like, look, I just think you need room for improvement. He wants to give him something to aspire to. Dude, by the way, we watched High Noon and Gary Cooper sounds like Hank Hill. And I Google. I wonder if that's is it. I Google that I couldn't find any. I mean, it just Texan. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. But go go watch High Noon. Here's your excuse to go watch High Noon. High Noon is very good. And then just listen for the Hank Hill. The movie that pissed off John Wayne and Howard Hawks so much that they made a whole movie that was like they were like the original like Internet Edge Lords where they were like so pissed off by a movie that you know what I mean? I don't know. They just they would have fit in so well in this ecosystem, I think. Didn't Hawks make Bringing Up Baby? He did. Fuck that movie. Check out my letterbox. But they made they made Rio Bravo after High Noon because they were just so pissed off at High Noon. Yeah. Fuck John Wayne. He sucked. Oh, we got a Lucy. Oh, Molly be good. Molly be nice. Nope. See. Why can't why isn't Lucy on camera? That's why. That bullshit's why. I like that Lucy's still there though. At this point, she's like I know that I could beat this dog up and I wish you would sometimes. Let's look away from the kitty. Yeah. There Lucy now. Yeah, Lucy's still sitting there. So maybe she'll she'll venture further in. Yeah. That was that was a question I saw a few times this house Lucy. Lucy's great. She's right there. Okay, let's all get along. Oh, would you do if you weren't an entertainment? Oh, okay. I was talking about this with someone at a I think it was maybe at New Year's. And I was saying that I think I'd be a really good detective. And then I heard who I was talking to, but they were like, oh, are you really good at science? I was like, no. And they were like, are you good at math? I was like, no. And then I realized like, oh, I'd be a really good detective if it was like 1850, like before forensics and DNA observation and intuition. I'd be a good like Sherlock Holmes detective where it was lodging out murder before we had like laboratories we could send scientific evidence off to where it was just looking at a locked room and deducing how something happened. I'd be great at that. I agree. So that's one option for a career for me. Other than that, I don't know. I feel like I'd be some kind of I feel like I would like to work with my hands in some capacity. I also feel like running an animal shelter or something like a rescue farm. Yeah, that's that's a hard life, though. Yeah, but it's tough. I do like working with animals a lot. So yeah, working with animals in some capacity, but I don't know. I think I mean, this is this is very close to entertainment territory, but like building like not building, but something that involves like painting or maybe interior design or decorating. Yeah, I think I'd be good at something like that. What about you, Grussell? Chef. Oh, sure. Yeah, okay. Yeah, when I was younger, I really wanted to work in animation, but when I was younger, that was also like pencil and paper animation, which isn't really a thing anymore. And that's entertainment. Oh, yeah, that's entertainment. I think I just really all of my options growing up were entertainment. I also when I was a kid really wanted to be an astronaut and that's also like I'm not good at math or science. So we all saw the space camp commercials. We all grew up in the 90s. We all wanted to go to space camp. And then when I was a kid, I saw Apollo 13 and realized I don't want to be an astronaut anymore. That shit was so scary. Wonder if gravity is like Apollo 13 for a certain generation where they realized, oh, this could go south. I would I would give anything to watch that movie in theaters again. Yeah, that would be cool. That was so fucking good. Watch the new mutants from Reddit asked if you could be given the rights to make a new installment of any horror franchise. What would you go for? I would have Darren L. Bowsman make a leprechaun. You're like, I would pass on the honor. Oh, you'd produce it. Yeah, yeah, I'll write it. I think that's fair. But he deserves it. He wants to do it. He's wanted to do it for a long time. And I want more leprechaun. Perhaps we could together convince Warwick Davis to return. Lyndon Porco did fine. Maybe maybe have two leprechauns. You know, that'd be fine. But bring back. Oh, Harry brought back Ozzy and then killed him. So kind of hard to bring. You think Jen's hard up for anything? You know, no she even up to that'd be fun. That'd be fun. Jennifer Aniston coming back for a leprechaun movie. I think genuinely. Billion dollars. Billion dollars easy. We're talking avatar money. I think another wishmaster would be great. Only if it's Andrew and he would come back, I think. Maybe he's getting up there. I still think he would do it. I would hope. But he wears that makeup is the thing. Yeah, that's him under all that. I mean, you know, there's a reason Robert said no more. He did the Goldbergs 10 years ago. Robert did. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How old was he then? But then how much heavier is the gin? Like the gin is bulky. That's a bulky thing, dude. There's got to be a way. I would love it. It'd be amazing to have him back in the role. It's an undersung series. I just think wishmaster, there's a way to do a sequel where it's like new final destination tier, clever. Yeah, absolutely. Because when was the last sequel? I mean, the second one, which was the last one with him, was late 90s. Yeah. I think three and four got into the 2000s, maybe. There's just so much potential for it. There's just so much unexplored. Does the world has changed so much? So many unexplored personality types and archetypes and stuff. I like how I said leprechaun you said wishmaster, which are like two sides of the same coin, basically. Yeah, they're very similar. It's just because they're, I don't know, just an updated version of that kind of guy running around and messing with people. I think they just lend themselves well to franchise. Yeah. Gressel, do you have any horror franchise that you would add an installment to? I really, really enjoyed the Chucky franchise. And I think another feature length theatrical release. You guys had great things to say about the show, I know, but like, I think another theatrical release movie version. I think Don wants to, I think that's his hopes to have probably at this point, one more theatrical release. Because again, that's the sad thing with the advancement of time is like these icons are getting up there and Brad, thankfully, is a voice role. So as long as he's around, he'll do it. Right. But you know, people aren't around forever, unfortunately, and he's up there, but I would love at least one more theatrical release, especially the show ended on a crazy cliffhanger before it was canceled. Yes, it did. I don't know if they would pick that up in the movie. That's the thing is, would the movie be a kind of continuation and then wrapping up of TV show stuff, or would it be its own thing? I don't think any studio would let him make a movie that was... That followed the TV. Because like... That's a lot of homework to ask people. It's a lot of homework to ask people. It's very, I don't want to say it was very divisive. I think the second and third season were more divisive than the first, for sure, because Don was like, oh, I can do what I want now. And he goes hard in the camp, which I was fine with for the most part. But like, the characters and their state at the end of season three would be a weird thing to have in a movie and ask people to go see without having seen the show. So it would be great though. And we're all crossing our fingers hoping for that to happen. Ninja Slayer 787 asks, since the internet can be so divisive and critical about horror, how do you guys avoid letting that shape your opinion of a movie? By... I was going to say by being in my 30s and forming my own opinions, I don't think that's fully fair. There are plenty of people our age who are still influenced by people online. But I think just like being very aware and just, I don't know, resistant to allowing it to shape my opinion. I really, I mean, one, I try to avoid too much discussion or trailers or previews of things I haven't seen before. And then two, if it comes my way, I really just try to ignore it. And when I watch the movie, let it do what it's doing and judge it by its own merit. I think what helps is doing what we do. We often review stuff right when it comes out. That helps. So... Or even before it comes out. We see it. Yeah. So we kind of have to form our own opinion. So we don't really get that kind of influence or blowback necessarily because it's so early on that people aren't in the weird echo chamber and starting to form the hive mind of... But also like horror doesn't necessarily get like that compared to other stuff. Like not to the degree that other stuff gets where I'm fucking scared for my life. It's weird because like I think one of the best examples or one of the best case studies is long legs. Uh-huh. Because it's so divisive. Yeah. You have, I feel like it's like half and half. As far as people who saw it thought it was really cool, interesting, new, scary. And then the other half of people who saw it, whether it was because of raised expectations or just, you know, judging the movie based on their own taste. Thought it was overrated, really didn't think it, it saved itself in the end. It kind of fell apart in the third act. Didn't like Nick Cage, whatever. And both of them feel so strongly about those opinions generally. Uh-huh. I feel like recently I was thinking about it and I feel like when you're younger, so this is going back to, you know, being older and just not having these thoughts. But when you're younger and in school and surrounded by peers, and you're afraid of being on the outs, you want to be on the in group. So if there is a majority opinion about something, it is, it is no longer an opinion. It is a right or wrong thing. And if you have a different opinion, you are wrong and on the outs. And I wonder if a lot of people just don't outgrow that mindset when it comes to liking something. And so when they watch a movie or a show or something, they seek out what the audience thinks is right. They seek out what the majority opinion is. It's like, and we've talked about this before, the posts online that are like, how do we feel about this thing? Which I fucking hate. I know it's just a rhetorical thing sometimes, but like just, I think that framing it like that is, is damaging to forming your own opinion. Because it's like, how do, how do we feel everybody? Like what's the, what's the consensus on this very subjective thing? And if you're, if you fall out of that consensus, you're wrong. And I hate that. So I just like, I feel very strongly about that. So I feel like that is a layer of protection against succumbing to that. I do think it helps to that again. I just don't think horror gets as intense as other fandoms do. Like there's discourse and there's discourse that gets annoying. And discourse that frustrates me and that I disagree with. And that I sometimes I'm like, I need to log off because people are just either wrong in my eyes or being unreasonable about something, you know? But it's not like, like you use long legs as an example. I really like long legs. I don't feel by saying I like long legs that people are going to, I don't know, dox me or something. I'm sure, yeah. You know what I mean? Compared to saying I like certain other movies where people will have your head for some reason. I don't know what it is. But I think that helps to like this specific fandom space doesn't ever get that extreme. Even if there are certain fan bases within horror that are more intense than others. We're, I think we're thinking of the same one. Screen. Yeah. Screen fans are a little intense. Sorry, screen fans. But even I may, the fact that I'm able to even say that and not a fear for my life is an example of how I feel horror in general is not as intense as some other kind of fan spaces are. So I don't know. I think it's like the fact that we have to get an earlier for the most part with a lot of our reviews. We either have to get in way earlier or way later if we're reviewing an older movie. And just, I don't know. I'm in my 30s and just don't really care. I see. Yeah. Aging is cool. Yeah. Like a lot of people, I saw a lot of blowback on our Stranger Things episode. I didn't, I was pretty in Stranger Things. So I feel like it's probably safe to say we're not going to do a follow up Stranger Things episode, right? Probably not because I just don't think people would. I don't think you guys want to hear Chelsea's thoughts. I don't think, well, it's so interesting because I had seen I don't know if it was on Reddit or somewhere where people were complaining that I like everything. And then the second we do an episode where I don't like something, it was- Yeah. I mean, I get that all the time with like, oh, he never says anything negative about that or, and then other people being like, why do you hate everything? It's like, fuck off. Yeah. But we did watch Stranger Things in the finale in theaters. I was very emotionally satisfied, cried a lot, had a good time. I sat there like a stone cold psychopath. It's because I had didn't watch it stretched out over years. Like I just think that's the big difference. All the flashbacks for stuff that she had just seen. I was like, I saw this last week. You know, it's gotta be, you know, that's a big difference. Yeah. So. Again, God, I just love the epilogue. Give it that, the whole epilogue. Give me, loved it. Everything, you know. I was wrong about Will. I want to put that on the podcast. Oh, that's right. You were waiting for the follow up. So to say that. Yeah. I went home after we recorded finished part one of season five was like, oh, fuck. Volume two, I hate. I, I. Yeah, no good. Close to hated. Yeah. Yeah. I won't say hated, but like I was not a fan of those three episodes. Finale won me back. And I think that as a whole, we can say it was a good show. Yeah. Great show. Love Stranger Things. You'll say great. Yeah. Okay. I think, I think, I think as a whole, you can say it's a great show. As long as there's another tear. I know. Oh, there is another tear. Okay. There is another tear. Would you say it's a good show? I think it's a middle of the road show. It is fine television. I would say between good and great, as long as above great is like a whole another tear. Yes. You know. Yes. There's there's actually good television. Yeah. You know, I would put it on par with Dexter. Yeah. I completely agree. So I think it's knocking on the door of Game of Thrones. No. I disagree with that. Well, the thing is that game the because some people were comparing the ending of Stranger Things to the ending of the game. So no, fuck that. You can't fuck that. No. The ending of Game of Thrones, Shat the Bed so hard. But the first four and a half seasons are way better than anything. So yeah. Except for maybe very, very good. So it's like it's the difference between like being within a certain range the whole time and having like higher highs and lower lows. That's fair. Higher highs, lower lows. Yeah. But like I'd say it's as good as like homeland. Yeah. You know, just a different way, different way. But you know, as long as there's another tier above it. There's another tier. The new to later from Reddit. Neither of you have watched the Sopranos yet. I've watched season one three or four times. OK. OK. We're going to fix that this year. Actually, actual force 717 from Reddit has a few questions. Which kills do you think make it into the Hall of Fame? I've got a few. Oh. Face smash. Jason X, obviously. The slugs had explosion. I fucking love. I think the 13 ghosts sliding glass plane like really cements itself in everyone's mind as a great one. I think the opening of Ghost Ship. That's always in there. Just for the fact that it's the only reason any of us remember Ghost Ship. That's true. Because you think about it. Can anyone tell you the rest of that movie? No. And we did a whole episode on it. And I remember what the fuck happens for more under sung ones. I would say Wishmaster 2 guy fucking himself to death. Yep. Pretty great. So good for more modern ones, more recent ones. I feel like leprechaun three. Oh, the big her butt. Caroline Williams. For more recent ones, I feel like hereditary sticks out for everyone. Yeah. No pun intended. To the point where I think you can on the A24 store, I think you can buy a Christmas ornament over. So that's up there for sure. It's iconic. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think of any other. Oh my god. That was so shocking. Yeah. Oh yeah. So shocking. Theaters, no spoilers. Like maybe first weekend. This shit was amazing. What an experience that was. I'm trying to think of any other recent movies with like kills that were just like, holy shit. Obviously the the MRI killing bloodlines is very good. I don't know if it'll stand the test of time. But is the alien in nope that I'm getting sucked up in there? That's pretty memorable. I mean, I just think it's a good one. I don't know if it's like Hall of Famer, but. Which oh, do you have any, Gressel? For me, I just the the shock and absurdity of it. Pete Davidson and bodies, bodies, bodies. Okay. Like totally different direction. Yeah. Obviously a very different thing. But like for that to be like the like, you know, the inciting incident kill and have it be what it is that one really jumps. Gets referenced every year at this house. Yeah. New Year's Eve. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like not the gore of it, but just the the part that it plays. The reveal. Yeah. The reveal. So funny. The way it factors into the movie. Yeah. Which movies do you think will become cult classics in the future? I feel like PG Psycho Gorman kind of already has. As much as we didn't particularly care for the comedy, it definitely has cult classic status. It's so hard to say because I think what makes a cult classic so depends on. It's like it you have to be able to predict the future at a certain. Yeah. That's the crux of the question. Yeah. But do you know because it so depends on what is the future like and how does that recontextualize what the cult classic is? Yeah. Because like I would love to say like better watch out, but it's not. It should be. It should be. Love better watch out. Next Christmas, I'm going to make you guys watch better watch out. It is. It is so good. My favorite Christmas already. And it's got Patrick Orburn. No, it's got Billy. It does. Oh, who? The puppet? No. No. From Trangitism. Deggermont Gummary. Oh, OK. There isn't it. Yeah. He's good. Very different role. Cult classic. Skiper. Osperkin's Skiper. It in my heart it is. Yeah, I feel like it's more likely to be forgotten. Cult classic for me. Ah, fuck any other ones that we've seen that. Because it's got to be not hugely talked about. Right. Not already kind of big, like long legs. Loved by. But it also can't be so small that it'll be kind of forgotten or like fall by the wayside. So like maybe Ugly Steps sister. Yeah, but that got Oscar shortlisted. Yeah, but you know. I guess that could still be. Maybe Influencer. Influencer. It's really hard to say. Yeah. And I also feel like cult classic kind of carries with it some intonations of tone and quality. Almost like B movie is expected of it. So I'm not sure. And finally, Chelsea, could we get a full boarding list for Chelsea Rebecca's home for the wayward killers? Oh man, I feel like there's definitely a type. And it's leather faces like. Leather faces. The star, the star pupil for sure. Yeah, Jason. Jason's there. I feel like if they're like a big, if they're big and don't talk, except for Michael, because Michael's like a shark and is scary. But I always imagine it like a Muppet Babies type thing, right? Yeah. So they're like little kid versions. So like, I guess. Because like Michael could be like the strong, like maybe almost a bully. I was going to say Michael's like the Roger Klotz of the show, which is not Muppet Babies, but you know, I don't know because if you have Freddie in there, he's got to be the mischievous little punk. Yeah. Yeah. Got to think who else is in there? Oh my gosh. What's his face from Johnny? Yes, Johnny from Nature. Yeah. He's like though, who's like an obscure Muppet? I was going to say Ralph. Is that his name? No, he's not a super obscure Muppet. He's like the, he's like the who's the random, you know, like Kermit's got like, there's like a bunch of other frogs running around in there sometimes. What? Mm-hmm. He's like one of those. One of the other frogs. He's like one of those. Yeah. There are other frogs. There's like a good Jillian, other frogs in the Muppets. There's like Kermit and his cousins. Yeah, I'm blanking on their names now, but they have like slightly different colors. Yeah. They're like off green. Chelsea said we should give up on the Muppets. Dude. No, false. Listen, the Muppets are great. I'm just saying we keep trying to bring them back and it never works and it just makes me sad every time. I just feel like we try to bring them back over and over for like the same 10 people who don't watch it. That I'm sorry. It just, it's just what happens every time. There's a new Muppets thing and it's, it's, it's what's going to happen again and we're all going to be sad again. I don't know. We got Sabrina doing this one. I believe in Sabrina. Yeah, but I do agree. The last one, the like sitcom one. Yeah. It was like for adults was great and hilarious. And yeah, nobody watched it. And I was sad when there wasn't more of it. And then like 15 years ago maybe the Jason Seagull did a thing. The movie. Yeah. I saw that in theaters. There were two. Oh. With Amy Adams as well. Yeah. Wow. So yeah, but that, that's my, I'm just saying. It's just going to be sad again when, when not enough people watch the new Muppets thing. And I, Seth Rogen's involved. I like everything Seth Rogen does. That new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was funny as fuck. I loved that movie. Studio, favorite show of the year probably. I don't know. Just saying. Wait a, that's all the comments are going to be. Chelsea hates them. I don't hate the Muppets. I like the Muppets. I'm just saying. What do y'all think about the Muppets? I'm just saying. Sound off in the comments below. Lucy bad. Lucy bad. Lucy bad. 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Lydia and Beetlejuice, they're meant to be, for sure. I know some people take issue with that. Listen, they're both grown-ups in the second movie. I was going to say now. Yeah. I know that. That's fucking Groomer Beetlejuice. Groomer Beetlejuice, yikes. I know on the press tour, Winona was like, no, this is what she's like. I want this so bad, you don't understand. She wants those characters to be together, and I agree with her. Ripley and Hicks from Elians. Fantastic couple. He respects her so much. It's real good. I know in real life we hate them, but I love the Warrens and the Conjuring. Like the Patrick Wilson and Fear from Riga. The fictional versions of them, I love. I think they're so sweet. It's interesting having this married couple as kind of a, this couple unit as a main character is really interesting for a franchise. I think that's really rare. I can't really think of many other movie series that have a married couple as basically functionally the main character. They're pretty rarely split up in those. We haven't seen the last one, but I just think they're really sweet. Everyone in the comments are like, they get a divorce in that last one. Yeah, dude, they divorce. It's weird. They don't even divorce in real life, but for some reason that last movie, they got a divorce. That's like half the movies, them dividing up all their assets. All the haunted. The stuff in that haunted basement is them just sitting there and dividing it all up. Dude, I would watch that movie. It's just them and like divorce court. Yeah, just Kramer versus Kramer. Yes, yes. But with haunted artifacts. Oh, and then characters we shit. Obviously, I mean, Adam and Lawrence is the easiest one from SAW. I can't really think of any more off the top of my head. Oh, the A win versus predator. Oh, the predator and the, is it Sena Leithan is the actress? I think so. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's almost canon. That's like. Oh, and in the purge election year, Frank Grillo and Elizabeth Mitchell. Yeah, I don't remember that movie well enough to confirm or deny it. Let me confirm it. Okay. Bad competitive 6 8 9 8 from Reddit asks, would you consider bringing back a drunk Disney but horror? And then a sap sharky for real for real said basically the commentary tracks, but that's not true because drunk Disney a big element was the visual of it all. A lot of visual jokes and editing jokes. Drunk Disney was like editing humor commentaries and unbroken riff session or discussion or whatever. We have considered that I've brought it up. I would love to do a limited run series of us with comedine guests where we watch movies. The drinking wouldn't be as focal. It would be more centered around the the comedy of it all. Libations could be a part of it and probably would be, but it wouldn't be focused on that part of it. But I do want to do that. But it's it's extremely time consuming. It's a lot of editing. The edits the problem. Because like, you know, you're taking 90 minutes to two hours of commentary and at least with drunk Disney what it would be would be, you know, matching that up with the movie going through pulling down anything that might be funny, whether it's a joke or just something we say that maybe when you match it with footage or do some kind of editing work to it could be funny. And then you wind up with like a 40 minute cut and then it's just this console. Yeah, Gressel is getting flashback right now. Oh my god. Yeah. Remember the spreadsheets? The spreadsheets. I would make spreadsheets of every joke in the episode. And then the three of us and two others would vote on what to keep and what to get rid of. Yeah. Oh my god. I'm giving them trauma by reminding them of this process from over a decade ago. The bad jokes we would argue over. Last time I watched the drunk Disney was a few years ago, but it was still great. Still funny. So I would I would be very pleased to do it. Here's the thing though. If we did it, it's like I wouldn't want to do it fucking like like a big new movie. No, it'd have to be a really weird. It'd be a weird old movie. And like would you people even fucking care about that? I guess at that point you need to have the guest be a draw, you know, but I still don't know if people like you people do. You're watching the podcast mailbag episode. So thank you. Bless you. You're the best. But like the people who just watched the kill counts on like new movies, the Jurassic Worlds, it's like, are you going to tune in for a fucking riffing show on XTRO or whatever that that one horror movie is? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That we haven't even watched or like the butcher Baker might go to like fun B movie from the 80s. I don't know. But it is. I would like to do that. Lord Asher to eight seven four asks how many craft singles can James eat? I wouldn't want to. But how many do you think you could probably put down a bunch? Yeah. What do you think before getting sick? Over 10. God, even just the thought of that, you just saying over 10 maybe just feel like a wave of nausea. Do you think you could unwrap? You know how they come in a pack? Yeah. Do you think you could unwrap that pack and take a bite out of it? No, it'd have to be individually. Yeah. I wanted to tie. I would do one at a time. It has to be one at a time. Well, a big bite. A big bite is going to be horrible. Yeah, I agree. I think the one at a time is like going to be easier for me to get down. Mm hmm. I don't know. I think I could at least. No, the big mouthful of it's disgusting. Because then it like dries it out. I got some rubbery though. What a horrible thing. I did find a new delicious sandwich that I've eaten three of in the past two days. It's the bread is a potato bread sourdough. Sure. It's turkey. It's pepper jack. And here's what I didn't expect. Slices of cucumber. Oh yeah. Put in there. Very good with pepper jack. Frunch with the pepper jack and with the bread. Holy fuck. I've been I've been having a lot of trouble sleeping lately. I'll go to sleep. I'll fall asleep. Fine. I wake up in 90 minutes or two hours every fucking night. It's been miserable. I'm so tired. But this morning that happened. I went downstairs. I had one of those sandwiches. It made it a little better. If that if a midnight sandwich isn't the sign of aging, I don't know what is. Yeah. That's literally like fucking stupid. I'm going to say are you a cartoon? You just need like the little toothpick. Right with the olive. Olive. Yeah. Tomoko7584 asks any non-horror films that you find yourselves coming back to? Ooh. I mean Christmas we usually hit up. It's a wonderful life. And what's the other one that? Oh, the Grinch often gets washed. Trying to think about. Or even just like that we like to rewatch. Oh that we think about. Yeah. I don't tend to rewatch movies that often. Not very often. I mean Avatar when there's a new Avatar we watch the old ones and go to them. Yeah. When they're going to make another one of those teenage mutant Ninja Turtle movies, right? I'll rewatch the first one and then see that as an excuse for that. Rod we've watched a few times. Yeah. That's great. Are there other movies that because there are certain movies were like just throughout my day when certain things happen, I'll think of certain scenes from movies just like involuntarily. The scene will just play out in my head. Like I'll just reflexively think of a reference to a movie because it's just been ingrained in my head for so long. Like for example, the scene one of my favorite movies ever is Amadeus. And I always think of that scene whenever I see someone that is like, God I can't stand this person where I'm like, how did we make this person famous kind of thing? But they are undeniably super talented. And it's that scene where he just, where Sally Arie just can't believe that like God chose to put his talent into such a vulgar creature kind of thing. I just think of like that scene where he realizes like, oh my God, this like monkey child I met earlier is Mozart. I don't know. Are there scenes like that where you just, it's a movie that has been in your life for so long that it'll just like play in your head. You don't have to search for it, but just things happen that make you think of it. I mean scenes and lines from like everyone, everyone knows these movies for me. They're the basic millennial man touchstones. I'm talking clerks through Jay and Silent Bob strike back from Kevin Smith, everything inclusive in that. First four or five Tarantino movies, you know, it's like those, those are just like memorized and always bubble up. So it's kind of boring. Sorry, Star Wars, you know, Wes Anderson movies. I'm pretty basic. I mean, they're good movies. Gressel or anything. I mean, other than the obvious, you know, because we're the same age from the same place. I can't, I think about zone of interest all the time. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. That movie, sorry. I mean, I know, right? I mean, it's fucking. That got into my bones and never left. It's fucking applicable. Yeah. Yeah. And kind of in the same vein, I find myself thinking of Doctor Strange a little bit lately, just like the no fighting in the war room, the absurdity of it, you know, just like. Idiocracy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Idiocracy. Yeah. That's another one that is very applicable. Yeah. In a different direction than zone of interest, tone wise, but, you know, yeah, for sure. And I mean, most Mike judge things, honestly, like office space, peeps and butt head, king of the hill, they're all. Yeah. That guy knows what he's talking about. No, he's a genius. Yeah. He's like fingers on the pulse. He's such a. Yeah. His satire of American culture is like, is just some of the best. From Reddit user sassy shamrock 25, their husband and they have a few. Would you be open to switching it up and doing a horror traders? Allah horror survivor. Oh, I think that I would be open to that. I have not seen traders, but everyone I know. It's werewolf. Okay. Yes. So I would be very happy to watch it. And then for us to do that, because here's the thing, Chelsea and I didn't watch this latest season of Survivor. We watched two episodes. I very much disliked it. And we stopped watching and I also put to bed my dreams of being on the show in its current form. I don't think I would like to be on it. I don't know if I. I might not even do well on it, just based on what it seems to be nowadays, as far as like, I don't know, man, I don't want to be forced to talk about horror movies and every sound up I do or like. Just the touchy, feely, just bucket list. Fuck all of it feels like a corporate retreat. Yeah. Yeah. No, I want to be there to play a game and like do obstacles and shit. And that's not that. Show anymore. Gressel, you did finish the season. We did. You said it wound up being OK. It wound up being OK. I don't think it was the worst season of the new era by any means. Wow. All right. Because it definitely felt that way from the first two episodes. It started rough. It came around. It's it was fine. I mean, it wasn't egregious. I think that, you know, it got there. It was fine. You know, but with our, you know, I guess, wavering love of the show, at least in its current form, it'd be and we had Saw Viver. It's like that's that feels like kind of the climax of horror survivor. Yeah. I think I just need that. That is a good idea. I think it would invigorate me a little bit because survivor every time I've done a new season, the last couple of seasons, it is like I'm it's been harder and harder to figure out ways to make it interesting. And it it like, yeah. So I think taking a break from it for a little bit and doing something different, but still some kind of role playing game. Yeah. So traders would be interesting, especially if there's a way where I can know who the traders are, but you guys don't would be kind of fun. I wonder if there's a way to make that work. I will brainstorm and we should watch a season of the traders because it is a lot of fun. New one starts on Thursday. Oh, there you go. They also ask how well do you think the three of you would do in a regular season of Survivor? Survivor, terrible. I'd be I'd be I would hate it. I'd hate every second of it, especially like new survivor. Yeah. I would hate everyone there. I would hate the experience. I would hate just all of it. I can't think of an aspect of current survivor that I would enjoy because it's it's barely about like out with anymore. I just feel like because that would be the fun part for me is that and that's I just know. Well, Phil, you were you're like a Genevieve. Yeah, I don't want to play like a Genevieve. And I just don't know. There's nothing about it that appeals to me. I hate being cold. I hate being hungry. I hate being wet and cold. I got asthma. I know. Thank you. Gressel, we've talked about before how you would probably probably would not do well crank your way out. I think being a crank. Yes, I think that I would probably have it and had a two problem. I do think that there is a chance I could. Do a game kind of like Jake from a couple seasons ago. If you remember him, yes. Yeah. The one who broke the challenge. Yeah. Oh, God, I also think that there is a version of a game where if I can attach to a female villain, I think I could be successful because Chelsea and I have done well in hidden identity games where I can ride her coattails. And I think that if I could do a similar thing, I might be OK. So I think I have a OK chance of maybe making merge, but I think you still, despite what you just said, think you'd still be OK. I think I do pretty well. Yeah. Honestly, I get along with people. Yeah, it would just be, you know, how many of my team are talking about their astrological signs and how often. You would just have to shut up and not you would have to smile. And I think I could for now. Give me a few more years, maybe not. You know, also they ended their comments saying we love listening to the podcast together, especially when Gressel gets involved. As for the traitors, though, I would absolutely wreck the traitors. I'd be so good at it. Chelsea would destroy the traitors. I don't even know. But if it's a hidden identity thing, yeah, no, you're fucked. Please allow me on the traitors. Oh, my God. As long as like. Are you allowed to be a villain on that show? Yes. OK. That's the whole point. Oh, for sure. Like, like remember the room or whatever the show was, the circle? The circle where it was not be. You could not be. No, like maybe the first season. But after that, it was like too fucking crunchy. But Chelsea has to have the the latitude to be able to keep it in the game. Like if it's a reality show competition, I want the room to be a villain on it. We're here to I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to play a game. Damn it. You could be on traitors. Yeah. For sure. For real, though, like make it happen and you would win. Awesome. Or I would destroy those housewives myself. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, that's the thing is they cast like it's like half reality stars. Now now it's all personalities. Oh, now it's all personalities. Do we know who's in the next season? Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of survivor people. They changed it to all personalities because the normal people were getting like not hang mode over your personality and you can hang. Exactly. I don't think I would count as a like no, it'd be like it'd be like Tom Sandoval person with a podcast. Yeah, but they had like random fifth rate royal on last time that like I've sir Ivar or something. Like Ivar, Monbatten or whoever the fuck it was. They had a mountain baton on the show. Yeah, some like D list royal user Oculus 30 on Reddit said for Gressel, what's the most fun or interesting thing you've cooked or eaten recently? Today I made pork chili verde and it was amazing. OK, just today it's been a minute since I made something interesting. Yeah, I mean, I made that today. That was a new recipe. I liked it. It was good. It was really tasty, good for the weather. It's been raining. So very warm and nice and stewed. Like was delicious. Enrique Hernandez 9 9 2 9 asks what are your favorite uses of music and horror? So many sound bites, the Jaws theme, Halloween theme and violence from Psycho have become iconic, but do you all have any lesser known favorites that don't get enough love? Phantasm has a great score. Yes. Phantasm scores great. I think nope has an incredible score. I listen to that score and that soundtrack all the time. The Jupiter's Claim theme is so fun and sounds like it could have been written in the 80s. Like it sounds like genuinely it was written for a theme park in the 80s. Yeah, it's incredible. It's so great. How accurate. Trying to remember. Oh, the entire soundtrack of The Guest. Very good soundtrack. It's so good. It follows also by Disaster Piece. Yes. That it makes the movie or helps make the movie. Very good. Really, really good. I really liked the soundtrack from Weapons. Maybe it's Recency Bias, but I loved all the percussion. Yeah, I just love all the use of percussion in that. I think we talked about it in the episode, but I just think it's so cool to, like for a movie that's so focused on children to have such a percussion heavy soundtrack because I feel like one of the first things that children learn how to do is hit things with their his bish-bang on stuff. So percussive sounds make a lot of sense. In the Kill Count, I mentioned The Mummy, All Time Adventure Score. Fantastic by Jerry Goldsmith there. When I was in college and saw Deep Red for the first time in a film class, my friends Matt and Joey and I, I forget which of us pirated that soundtrack. It might have been Matt. I mean, showrunner of Hysteria Matt Kane. And then we passed around a hard drive among the three of us with the score on it. So we all downloaded it because we were all obsessed with it. It's so good. Score by Goblin, obviously. But I've also always loved Suspiria's. Also by Goblin. Goblin is another is a band I would enjoy seeing live. Goblin, which it's funny because I don't even know if any original members of Goblin are still in Goblin. There might be like one guy. Goblin has the one song in Dawn of the Dead. But I think that soundtrack is also great and just very eclectic. And I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't like it because it's so out there. No, it's so good. But I love it. Yeah, that's what makes it. That music really gets in my head often. That was some of my first exposure to like like horror music because it's sampled in Gorilla's music. I was going to say tubular bells. Yes. Like Michael field. Like when you were just saying like when the music precedes the movie like Jaws does the same thing where like you encounter that before the movie almost. Yeah. That's a different kind of level of where it means something outside of itself. Sinners obviously from earlier. We had a CD when I was younger of like like horror movie hits and it was like the themes of and it was crazy because I had never seen any of these movies. But we had this CD of all the themes and it was honestly I think my first exposure to the titles of most of these movies. So I would listen to these and just like come up with like what could this possibly be. I must have had that too because where else would I have heard this shit like the Halloween theme. Halloween. It had Halloween. It had you know you'd go trick or treating and there would be houses blaring that. That's true. Yeah. That's what it's that's what it's yeah or just you know you have I think we bought it because you know I'm like eight and having some kids over for a Halloween party. Right. But it had had the Halloween theme. I know it had poltergeist which scared the shit out of me because it's just it was the last track. I remember it was the very last track and it had the very end. It was a bunch of kids laughing and it scared me so bad. It had two wheeler bells. It had psycho and I think Jaws. I'm trying to remember what else but it just had like all the classics. I remember just imagining what possibly could be going on and that was so much fun for me. Just kind of dreaming like what is what's the story here. Like what are the movies attached to this song and that was probably scarier than anything. You know I could have actually seen. Obviously Jurassic Park score by John Williams. Oh God. Fantastic. The best. I will always go to bat for Lost World soundtrack as well. I think the new themes and pieces he introduces into that movie really suit it well. And I think that I mean they stick with me a lot but of course I watched that movie a ton growing up. And just for a musical I mean it's because I've been working on it. If you didn't know if you don't follow the Monday morning live streams you may not be aware that a Rocky Horror Picture Show kill count is incoming this year. We didn't get to it as much as I wanted to at the end of last year for its 50th anniversary. Those songs man are fucking there's a reason that movie has stood the test of time. And I mean there's lots of reasons. The characters, the performances, Tim Curry period. But the songs I think are a huge part just because of how good they are. They're simple melodies. I think Richard O'Brien would like he wouldn't even write out the notes. He would just like record them. He would just like play them and then his music director would transcribe the notes and everything but like he would just like make them incredible. Great stuff. I have two more answers to this because I just love movie soundtracks so much. The very ending of Annihilation. In the White House. Yes when she's in the White House and that thing is morphing into the clone of her and they have that weird kind of dance with each other and there's that. I just seen that in a theater. Yeah I should. I was holding my breath for I don't even know how long. That was such an incredible theater experience. Oh Candy Man's theme. Candy. I felt glass. That's oh that's so fucking good. And then the entire soundtrack of Lost Highway when we saw that at Overlook. That soundtrack is so crazy good. Every song on that is insane. And then that kind of song that gets repeated over and over. I forget what song it is but it's the one I feel like it's the Patricia Arquette theme where it's just it's very ethereal and beautiful. I like that. CR1MM1NSCrimmins from Reddit says what's your favorite Venture Brothers episode and favorite Venture Brothers Lines. Oh okay. I don't know if I have a favorite episode. I'm glad that 80% of the audience is like great skips. Lines that are in my head all the time. Oh yeah. So what's it like being a Dean? A Dean. Are these they? Are these they? No yeah it's like is this them? Are these they? Nobody talks like that. Or of course. Why would you buckle it? I don't know. Why did you buckle it? Why would you do that? A lot of 24. Oh my god. A lot of 24. Lots of 24. The whole like getting ready thing. To Mars. Yeah. You stop hosting. I think it was during Avatar 3 when I leaned over and was just like I forgive you Miles Courage. I forgive you Brock Sandson. I had to restrain myself when they also in Avatar 3 were flying and they had those things like pulling them and all I could hear in my head was Dr. Doogong which is like the gentle cuttlefish. Oh my god. Yes. I will never not think of that anytime I'm in an aquarium. Yes. Oh for sure. Oh my god. I mean the way I say jacket is forever fucked up because of that show. Scooba. Mournful tits. Mournful tits. Dab. I do dab. Whenever I pee and I'm like. Stop showing dab. Yeah. I've got more in my pocket. I've got my lick your arm. I've got more. Oh just a whole sea captain period. Yeah. I've got the dirt monkey on me back. No way. What a way. Oh yeah. Or like if we ever guys have we ever considered it's actually Zeus like the actual Zeus all pissed off that nobody cares about Zeus anymore. I am thirsty. I am thirsty. Can't believe that's Toby Haas. Yeah. I am thirsty. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah there's more than that but. Yeah. I have to draw the line. No one wants to sit here listening to those quoting about your brothers for 10 minutes straight. Operation prom is my favorite episode. Yeah. With the pulp song. Yeah the pulp song. And it's. Is it the season three finale or four finale. Yeah. All right. Welcome back to everyone who's. Yeah sorry if you were taking a nap for the last five minutes. Welcome back. I mean a lot of questions asking about Phantasm fall. So. Really. Oh yeah. People want to see it. Weird thing. Okay Phantasm fall or weed we're discussing final destination. If we want views that's the one because Gressel you've never seen any of those right. Not a one. So that's that's a good thing to go through with Gressel. Yeah. That's six movies Phantasms five. So I mean basically the same thing. Both a lighter lift than saw. I'm fine with either of them. Yeah. I guess it depends. You know combined it's basically the same. Combined basically. I mean I wouldn't mind doing both. Could start with file destination to reel them in and then be like. Stay tuned for. Do. Fucking Phantasm. We can maybe do. Yeah we can maybe do final destination and take a break then do Phantasm. If that wouldn't be too much but then it's again it's the same length as saw. Yeah it's 11 versus 10. I don't know if that would interest people. Maybe because like again it's two different audiences there. Yes very different audiences. And I think you would have fun with file destination Gressel. I can see the skepticism in your eyes. No I am skeptical of final destination. I think they're one of the more it's one of the most popcorny. Sure horror franchise. They're a bell curve of quality as well. If you get through the middle and stick it out to the last to the last third. You're good in my opinion. Like an inverted bell. Yes it starts strong gets. Yeah finishes. Finishes very strong. Yeah. Of course that's us saying this now. We had our own opinions about saw and those were challenged. That's true. Yeah we could see our opinions change. Yeah because a lot of people like final destination three more than we did when we first watched it years ago. Got any more. Why does James hate Home Alone so much from El Phantasm in 97. I feel like I could watch it again and reappraise it. We will give it another chance. Yeah next Christmas but it just wasn't there weren't as much hygiene says I wanted. Yeah I used to agree with you I've really come around. I didn't really watch it as a kid. I don't really have nostalgia for it. So maybe you know I what did I say in the like first thing that we I like to let movies be what they are and appraise them for what they are. Home Alone I'm going in with a preconceived notion of I want high jinx and and I didn't get it last time we watched it. So I was let down so. Maybe I need to watch it again with another chance. The Home Alone 2 sucked. It's terrible. Yeah I did not enjoy Home Alone 2 and we watched it. It's got and it's got Tim Curry. Yeah. And it's got Rob Schneider. Both of which are sidelined to do the first movie again. Yep. Yeah yeah it's not good. No. All right. Great. So yeah let us know how you feel about doing two series this year. I also want to try and do at least one big kind of research based episode this year. That's my New Year's resolution. I want to get back to doing more of those. Those have been harder to find time for with you know dead meat getting bigger and life just getting bigger harder to find more time for those than it was in like 2017 and 18 when we were just starting the show. But I will do my best. Welcome to the new year. Yeah. Until next time I'm Chelsea. I'm James. And that's Grassel and this has been the Dead Meat Podcast.