This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Comedy saved me. If you're going to use drugs and alcohol, you know, oh, it makes me more creative. That's bullshit. Shut up. You know, you're just the disease of alcoholism and drug addiction. We'll tell you anything to keep you active. Welcome back to Comedy Saved Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the healing power of laughter and the stories of comics who have turned pain into punchlines. I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman. And today, today's guest is a true legend in the world of stand up. He is a comedians comedian, a podcasting pioneer and a man whose wit is literally as quick as his comebacks. It's he's so fast. I don't know how I'm going to be able to keep up with him. You've seen him on last comic standing, deaf comedy jam and comedy central, among others. He's the co-host of the brutally honest and always hilarious. My wife hates me podcast. And he's been making audiences laugh for over four decades, but he doesn't even look at that old. Uh, but behind the razor sharp jokes and legendary roast battles, Rich Voss has a powerful story of resilience, recovery, and the redemptive force of comedy. And today we're going to talk about how comedy became his lifeline, the highs and lows of his journey and what it really takes to survive and thrive in this business. So sit back, get ready to laugh and maybe even, you know, tear up a little bit, grab the tissues as we welcome the one and only Rich Voss to comedy saved me. Hi. Hi. Thank you for helping me. I have to make a couple of corrections on the intro. All right. Let me get a pen. Okay. First of all, last comic standing was 25 years ago. Let it go. Okay. An army central is the thing in the past. No one does it anymore. So newer credits, uh, recently was heard on the Joe Rogan podcast, a regular on the gut felt show as a new special on Amazon called Rich Voss anonymous. Doesn't do the podcast anymore. That's done after 11 years. Thank God. And what else? That's good for now. But last comic stand, I'm going to help you because you seem so nice. Oh, thanks. Get rid of commie central for anybody. Okay. That's it. My mailman did comedy central. That's almost an insult when people are recognized when they say commie central because they're done. Last comic standing done. Don't use that for anybody. Okay. And, uh, you know, I guess we're good from there. And I'm not being mean. I'm just trying to help from the beginning. No, but you should. I mean, first of all, Rogan, huge. And, uh, second of all, I saw you recently on gut felt. So I know, I mean, then that's the number one show at late night. So you're absolutely right. Nice. Dan corrected. I can't believe I even left that out to begin with. I'm so sorry. That's all right. You made a mistake or whatever. I just have to update my bio. It's also my mistake. But that's all right. We're of a certain age because I used to work on a channel. That's no more as well called VH1. So if that's still even out there, no one even knows what that used to be. What are you like 32, 32 years old? No, double fives in July, 55. Get out of here. Yeah. Well, didn't you do a little bit of opium, Anthony, for a while? They did it for years. Yeah. For years. So I was working in morning radio at the same time you were. No. Yeah. Where? In building? Boston and New York. Boston. Who were the guys I do in Boston? Tutscher and Rich or something? Or. This is going back a bit, but it was John Lander. I did that show there. Yeah. Then the other guy went to jail and he died. Who's that? Tutscher and Rich? Mark Carino. Oh, yes. Yes. Yep. I'm Boston. I'm a big fan of Boston. Good. Did I just go up in your like good check off list? The second I saw you, you went up in my. Oh. What do you mean? I buy you a better house. Oh, thanks. You added a burks here or so, whatever they call them. No, I love it here. Believe me, I'm very happy to be here. Is that your studio down there? Away from people? Yeah. Do you see your name in the big screen over there? Yeah, but like, why do you have all those seats? You have that many people? Well, occasionally I have had guests, but mainly when we don't in studio, but when we don't have guests, we like to have like little parties in here. And so that's the game night table. Wow. We have family and. Party game night. That's, you know, when you're getting older, when you have game night. Yeah. That's when you're not. That's when you go, all right, we're stuck together. What are we going to do? Game night. Well, it's that or pickle fest. Well, or you can become swingers and then explore other options around the area. I don't know. I've never done it, but I just figured that's an auction. I've never done it. I don't know. I'll let you know if we start, if we look into that, I will tell you. Wait, I got to call Rich. Who kind of creepy. I shouldn't have said that. That's all right. You know, I'm just looking out for you and whoever. Well, you're, you're, I appreciate that. A lot. What do you need to know? What do you mean? Am I coming off mean? I hope I'm not mean when I told you different credits. No, because they're all relevant. I feel I'm going to redo the intro based on what you told me. And I'll make sure that we edit that in because it's way better. I mean, you can't, it's obvious that you've had an illustrious career, but it's far beyond what we mentioned. And no, you didn't come off as mean at all. I tried to. All right. Well, I want to ask you a question or two. Go ahead. Or three. I want to start. I really do want to start off with your roots and sort of your inspirations. What, what first drew you to stand up comedy back in the, what was the 80s? And who were some of your biggest influences? What drew me? Cause I failed at everything else. You know, as a kid, you know, maybe nine years old in fourth grade, I used to come home and listen to this comedy album, Vaughn Meader. We did impressions of John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy. The album was called First Family. His career was over after the Kennedy's were assassinated. The guy went from Park Avenue to Park bench. I mean, he was the hottest comic then just done. I mean, nobody wanted to, you know, hear him do impressions of two people. They loved that were assassinated. Right. So I used to come home from school, listen to that album every day. In fourth grade, nine years old, and then you later on in life, just realize you're just covering the pain of your parents divorce and your father never being there. And, you know, how do I deal with this as a fourth grader coming home to a cleaning lady or that my mother couldn't afford kind of a babysitter cleaning person. You know, we chased everyone away. My brother, my sister and I, because none of them, you know, we're all just angry young kids that were just mean. So I come home and then, you know, throughout life, you would listen to comedy. Next thing you know, here I am. Well, Jed's a millionaire. You said next thing you know, I couldn't help myself. I wish I, I'm getting close to if I sold everything, including my sneakers, I'd get close. But, right, you know, in life, you have to realize what, you know, you look at people, I look at people in my business selling out arenas, multi-millionaires, you know, TV specials, Netflix, Amazon. And then I have to think in life. I have enough. I already have enough. You know, and once you could almost get comfortable with having enough, whether it be family, friends, materialistic goods, sobriety, whatever you have, once you realize it's enough, you don't have to fight anymore. So I'm close to that. I'm pretty close to knowing I have enough. Does that make sense? Yes, absolutely. I feel like whatever is enough, whatever your version of enough is, that should be good for you, whatever it is, whether it's you want to be a billionaire or you just want to live a peaceful life somewhere in the mountains and, you know, work out of a barn or in your bedroom in your case. My wife's bedroom is so much nicer. She has two rooms in her bedroom. You have separate bedrooms. Well, I come in late and snore and we have a big house and it's so much easier, you know, instead of her waking me up every night going, you're snoring, you know, I understand that. Well, it's not like we touch each other. So what the fuck? Oh my gosh, you've cited when you were growing up classics from the Ed Sullivan show as some of your influences. What did you learn from some of those early legends that you still use today in your in your act? Can you remember? No. I remember. I remember when I would watch Ed Sullivan and see like Alan King or I can't remember. I would still would my father because that was one of the nights or weekends he would come home. So what I remember is that and watching the comic, you know, but then after you get older, you know, he's gone. Right. We'd narrated whatever. And and then you just grow up, you know, listening to Pryor, Eddie Murphy. Those were, I guess, the two comics I listen to mostly as, you know, probably in my twenties, you know, and then I when I start a comedy, there was my favorites, but I, you know, I was horrible. When I started comedy, I was still partying and getting high and doing drugs. So I think I did that for like two years and then went to put myself in rehab and I've been sober ever since 39 years. So probably my first two years or three years was horrible. I was just whatever doing whatever I could to get money to get high, you know, and then I get out of rehab and then my life starts coming together at some point, you know, it doesn't happen overnight, but I'm not doing what I was doing. I mean, my, you know, I was a wild man or a wild guy or person or just nuts, you know, and comedy was a quick fix where you'd get your money that night and you could go out and party and get high that night. You know what I mean? Like it was, I didn't have to wait till Friday and get my paycheck or Saturday, Thursday. You know, I do it getting on Tuesday, get paid next thing you know, I'm in New York buying drugs. So eventually that caught up to me and oh, and now I have three daughters, three grandkids, another kid on the way. There's six people on this planet because I don't get high a day at a time because I would have never met my wife or ex-wife, you know, how the world works. I mean, how things work in mysterious ways. Yeah. You know, your past, you know, is, I guess, planned out to whatever, you know, you're where you are when you're supposed to be there. But if I never, if I was still partying, I wouldn't have married these people and it wouldn't be my daughters or grandkids. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. It's kind of, it's kind of weird, you know, when, when somebody has a miscarriage or something happens, then they get pregnant maybe seven months later, then you have those kids, well, those kids would never been here if that person didn't have that miscarriage. You see what I'm saying? Oh yeah. There's definitely a higher power. It would be a whole different, whatever outcome in life. So it's kind of like when you have game night. Just want to go on record that that's only happened a couple of times with family. It just looks nice with four chairs and I have all the director's chairs. So why not? Right. It looks good. Thanks. I do believe everything happens for a reason 100%. And, you know, I wouldn't be here if my life didn't go the way that it went either. And I never would have expected to be here talking to you, you know, on a, on a zoom, getting to interview some of the most, the biggest legends in, in comedy and music. But obviously whatever I did to get here got me here. So I agree with you 100%. Plus there's, there's definitely something larger than all of us at the helm. There's got to be. So I agree. Who is the biggest musician or that one your favorite that you like? I'm short on radio. You know, you did, you worked with a lot of the musicians, I guess. Yes. And on this podcast, have you had musicians? Yeah, I have another podcast called Music Saved Me. So we have musicians on and people in the music industry. Any famous people? A few. Yeah. We've had on Jelly Roll and Winona and Pat Monahan of Train. And I just had on, oh gosh, there's so many of them. We've probably have done, well, I don't even know how many we've done, but a lot. I mean, it's been about two years. Oh. But we are number one in the music interview category. No. On Apple podcasts. So that's kind of cool. Get out of here. I say we because the incredible guy that you met when we first started chatting, Buzz, we've been, we've known each other for pretty much 30 years. He was, what do I say? The C-suite in radio in Boston, but also came up as a non-air personality in New York. I don't think his real name is Buzz. I think it might. Well, we have to ask him when he comes back on. Oh, no, I think he's the sound. That's a good radio name, though, right? I think he's on the lamb. I think he's on. He might be on the lamb. We'll be right back with more of the Comedy Saved Me podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Saved Me podcast. Listen, I have to talk to you about this because I read this about you and I was like, wow, this is kind of cool. You sort of broke some barriers in your career. So you don't seem to give yourself enough credit about that part of it. But back in 95, you actually became the first white comedian on the deaf comedy jam, which I watched all the time. How did that opportunity come in? And what was running through your mind? I want to know right before you took the stage, if you can remember. I don't know. I mean, it was nerve-wracking. No one's ever, you know, a lot of pressure. Yeah. Look, I had two daughters. I had to work to whatever clubs I could, whether it was typical white rooms or urban rooms or mixed rooms, whatever it took, I did. And then I did, you know, so many urban shows. It was easy for them to pick me to do it because they knew who I was, the bookers and people running the show. But it was very, very, very nerve-wracking. Very scary. Because, you know, I was, they taped five nights a week in New York the whole season. They taped, you know, I was the fifth night, second night. Second show, second to last. So I heard of everybody in town doing well, not doing well. You know, people that were still in town came to watch the taping. That year they had a bunch of different hosts every episode, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, my guy was Steve Harvey. They had a different host. So some of the hosts were still in town, Jamie Foxx, and I knew everyone. But when there's a lot of them in the audience and it's the last show of the tapings all week, and I'm second to last, there's a lot of built up pressure. And black comics were mad that I was doing it and they weren't doing it. Some of them, white comics were like, well, you got to be good because you're the first. It was, it was a lot of pressure. It was very, and then the clothes I wore there, they go Russell Simmons, whose show it was, wants you to wear his clothing line. So they got me a fat farm clothing, which is an urban clothing line. I walk out. I mean, I look back on it. I mean, this is what 30 years ago, I mean, I was, and I pandered more to the audience I was working to back then, but that's what I knew 30 years ago. So I mean, it's kind of cool. I've done so many weird things. You know, I hosted Woodstock 99, one of the stages, you know, When it was on fire. Yeah, I wasn't on that stage. I was on another one, a big one, the West stage. That was the East stage. Yeah. You know, I roasted Trump in a roast years ago. You know, things I did a show once outside the Washington Monument. It was a stage and it was a drug awareness event. And Cheryl, well, what's his name from? Arrowsmith was the lead. Main guy, Stephen Tyler. He wasn't doing Arrowsmith songs. He was doing like, I don't know, countries or whatever other songs he does. Cheryl Crow was on it, this band, the fray or whatever. Yeah. And like, I don't know, and all these local bands, and it's outside the Washington Monument, 15,000 people and I'm hosting and I'm big screens, you know. So I've had so many cool different things happen. You know, two years ago, I did the four shows on Burke Christchurch tour. The Hoping Anthony tour. You know, hosting these big events, you know. And every time you still walk out nervous as hell. I bet. You know, there's certain clubs I get nervous at, just for the first 10 seconds, you know. Well, once you know that you've got them in the palm of your hand and they're laughing, does that sort of take all of that away and then you're sort of in a groove? Well, once you come out and get a laugh, you know, I'm hosting in a couple weeks. We do this benefit for Patrice O'Neill's family. This is the 12th year I'm hosting it. I host it every year, Billy Burke closes it. And every year I walk out going, oh, I got to do something different in the last 12 years and it's nerve-wracking. Then you walk out and you go, oh, shit, I've already done this 11 times. I mean, but in your head, you're always going, oh, this is the one I fall apart on. You know, I don't know. Yeah. You know, it's, and if you say you walk out and you're totally a nightmare, everybody forgets the other 11 shows you did great at. Right. Because you're only as good as your last show. So. Family remember that one. Yeah. Every year I walk out with such anxiety, you know, whatever. Wow. But I always walk out. Everything always works out. But I always thought that about comedians, you know, with musicians. It's easy. You know, everyone knows the songs. They're ready to sing along. You've got them right at the beginning. But comedians, you have to reinvent yourself almost every single time you take the stage, unless it's, you know, an audience of people that listen to your comedy album and they know it word for word. Yeah. They don't want to see, you know, you go to see the Rolling Stones, you know, you want to hear a Gimmi Seltzer, you want to hear, you know, whatever. I say the Rolling Stones, that's how old I am. Who would you go with? The Rolling Stones or the Beatles, if you had to pick. If I had to pick? Oh gosh. Well, I've seen the Stones, so I have to go with the Beatles. Okay. You saw the songs? The Voodoo Lounge kickoff at Foxborough Stadium, I think it was like somewhere in the 90s. Oh, that's good. You saw them when they were, they could walk. Yeah. So listen, you've been a mainstay in comedy for like, I hate to say it, 40 years. Yeah. How do you keep your material fresh and relevant? Because the world is changing exponentially faster than, you know, even just 10 years ago. Well, I mean, you try to keep writing stuff like, you know, coming up when, I mean, I have seven albums. Do I need an eighth album? Do I just coast? Do I do the best? Gov. And I could do an hour show of just crowd work without doing material if I wanted to. So I add stuff, add stuff. And I mean, I'm working on an eighth, a shorter album of crowd work. Like my wife, 15 years ago said, oh, you got to do a crowd work. DVD or CD. I got to ask too easy. Now everybody's making careers out of doing crowd work on, which I was doing for 20, 25 years. And I'm not saying I'm the best. There's very, very great crowd work comics, you know, big J and Bobby Kelly, Bonnie McFarland, a lot of them. David, like tons of good crowd work comics. So I'll put out that with like clips maybe. And I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I've been doing this forever. What's your process for new material? I mean, like, how do you know when a bit is definitely when you go, oh, yeah, I'm doing that one. That's going to be on stage. I don't know until I do it. Do you test any out like on your family or friends? No, I don't have friends. Oh, okay. That's smart, actually. No, I just, you know, either comes from ad-libbing on stage. I go, that would be a good, you know. Yeah. Or I look at something, I write down two words on my phone and I try it. You know, it just comes along. I mean, I forget a lot. I got tons of, I got seven, I got 40 years of crap. Where do you keep it all? I try to keep it here, but I mean, I forget. I forget, you know, dumb things. And I, the other day I forgot my wife's phone number. I couldn't think of her phone number. Has that ever happened to you or you can't think of a phone number? Okay. That's either a brain fart, a senior moment, or your Rolodex is just too full and you couldn't find the, the right, yeah, but that has happened to me a lot lately. Oh, it's happened to you too. Oh, all the time. I can't think of people's names that I've spoken for 50 years. Oh yeah. Best of worst. I won't, I won't look something up until I figure it out. I'm not going to let it win. Oh, I don't, I don't even have Alexa in that. See, nothing answered. I don't have any other robots. I want, the only thing I like them for is timers. You know, when I'm making eggs. Yeah. But other than that, I don't want to know the answers like that. I want to figure it out. We're still having babies. Me? Yeah. You said make an egg. Oh no, not those kind of eggs. Oh. You know what? I don't. Look how easy your life is. You come down to your, your studio. You and the other couples do what you guys do. I don't know. It's none of my business when the lights go off up in the birch's ears or whatever. I want to delve a little bit into something that you brought up earlier when we were talking about your, your personal journey and your journey through recovery. You've been really open, obviously, about your recovery and, and you've been sober since 87, which I want to say congratulations because I do know that sobriety has a shelf life of typically five years. So to go as long as you have is an incredible show of willpower and stamina and obviously you've worked hard. It's, well, it's not really willpower surrendering. Right. I never heard that statistic five years. I heard one out of 33 make it. I didn't know it was a five year run. I learned that about my dad. He, he was a Green Beret. So he had a lot of issues with PTSD. And it led to some alcohol and drug abuse, but later on in my life, not, he kept, he kept it together until we all moved out and went to college. So I remember someone telling me that and then I had such a higher, I don't know, but my ideals about my dad went up like exponentially when I realized how strong a man he was to, to make it so long sober. Wow, that's cool. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm addicted to anything that makes me feel good. Instant gratification. One bird feeder outside my window when I drank coffee made me feel relaxed. Now I have five bird feeders outside my window. Very cool. Because I thought it would make me feel five times as good as the one bird feeder did. You know, it's just a mentally insane. I love that. Any hummingbird feeders out there? I don't know. I just buy bird feeders. Whoever comes can eat. Okay. Well, because the bird, the hummingbird, you have to put like sugar water in it. It's a little different than the other. We might go buy one of those today. How has sobriety shaped your comedy in your life? Well, I mean, there's bits I do about where I was or I'm at. It's, it's shaped my whole life. I mean, it's given me a life. How can you, you can't have a life being addicted to what I was doing to be an addicted to anything in the fear with anybody's life? So how's it given me a life? I, like I said, I have three daughters, a wife, an ex-wife I get along with, grandkids, and one on the way. You know, I'm sitting in a gigantic house looking at my in-ground pool. That's all the materialistic shit I have. I listen to the bottom lines. I'd be dead. I was on the path I was going. I'd be in jail or dead. So it's kept, the life it's given me was not being dead. Did you ever worry about losing your edge when you got sober to do comedy? First of all, I was only doing comedy for like two years when I was active. So I stunk no matter what, whether I was doing it or not. I mean, how good was I at two or three years? If you're going to use drugs and alcohol, you know, oh, it makes me more creative. That's bullshit, shut up. You know, you're just the disease of alcoholism and drug addiction will tell you anything to keep you active. I better embed a more creative, you know, I'm stronger. It's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. You're either a social drinker or an alcoholic. Just once you cross that fine line, there's no turning back. So if you're saying your edge is because you drink or get high, that's ridiculous. It's like overweight comics. Don't want to lose weight because you have to act. Just talk about being fat, a lot of them. So you're going to have a heart attack. You're going to die. So you could tell a joke or two, you know, it's, you know, it's, you can't use your, your addiction is because you are an addict or you're an alcoholic or you're an overeater or you're an under-eater or you're a gambler, you know, whatever you are can be listen, I gamble too much, you know, my main, you know, listen, I'm addicted. I buy shit on Amazon. I don't need, I'm not perfect. I'm not getting high a day at a time, but believe me, I have a lot of shit to work on in life and I'm old. You'll still be working on it the rest of your life? Probably, yeah. Unless I hope so. Do you remember a time when making people laugh helped you through particularly tough time in your life? Time in your life? I'm not making it laugh, just going to work. You know, there's times I had major anxiety in life where I, it was bad when I was 21. I wasn't a comic, but when I was 40, it was really bad. Luckily, I got through, through with a good therapist. I got working because I was ready to go. I got to, I got to stop this, you know, everything passes. It all passes. Good times, bad times, it all, you look at a heart monitor, it goes up and down, you're alive. Straight across your dead. Everything passes. Anxiety, pink clouds, feeling good, feeling shitty. Try not to react in those moments, you know, and just accept them. It's easier for me to say, but a lot of times I do it, a lot of times I don't. I try not to get mad at traffic. It's out of my control. I guess I have no tolerance or patience with my wife. If she, you know, didn't bug me so much, things would be great. Oh my goodness. Well, that was great advice. I was going to tell you up until that part. You've worked on a lot of things and you've worked with a lot of legends and you have also mentored up and coming comedians. What do you think is the most important lesson that young comedians need to learn today if you could pick one? Be slony. That'd be kind of important. Well, that doesn't have to be important now. Now it's important to see how many followers you have on Instagram, TikTok. Half of them aren't funny, but they're selling out clubs and, you know, it's a different world. It has nothing to do with quality. Now it's quantity. And, you know, older comedians are going, this is crazy. This person's headline and they stink and most of them do. But clubs have to keep their doors open. But they got to draw just a fine line between comedy club or YouTube club. Right. You know, there's a fine line. So what, you know, it's a quick fix that you keep, these clubs keep bringing in these TikTok or internet sensations. I know a club, this whole line of says internet sensation, internet. It's a quick fix and it never works. It'll come back to you. Talent always exceeds bullshit. If you have those numbers and the talent, well, you're really lucky. But I think talent should become first. Clubs used to fill their rooms because they had great shows. Now they're trying to fill their rooms because, you know, someone knows how to wash a car with their teeth. I don't fucking know. Well, whatever. It's true. No, you're right. It's a very interesting time that we're all living through right now. It's crazy. And I suspect it's going to get even crazier in the next three to five years with the whole AI thing and things that are going to happen that we just can't even comprehend. But with your hindsight of all of these decades of doing this, you're able to see these patterns and things that, you know, a lot of people don't have the opportunity to or the up and comers. And they'd be very grateful for someone like you to give them good advice. And, you know, you kind of talk like my dad did, you know, just very matter of fact to the point, if you want to be a comedian, be funny. I mean, what else is there? But I'll be honest. Yeah. Funny, honest. Authenticity. Yeah. I mean, what else? I mean, you want to be a juggler know how to juggle. Are there any moments backstage or on the road that you had all of these years that stand out, especially, you know, that were formative for you or hilarious that no one would ever know and that you want to spill the beans on with me? I was working Reno during like the, I think a porn convention that was making out with two girls at once backstage and they were all 10, they were both 10s and it was a dream come true. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I don't know. I could imagine that would stand out, obviously. I don't remember it. I don't think that happened. I think I just made that up. I don't know when I've had so many fun times backstage. When we did our tour, Creeps were kids, me, Bobby Kelly, Jim Florentine, Ron Bennington. We had some funny moments backstage and just been years and years of fun moments. And there's also been moments of, you know, like, oh, what am I doing here? You know, why am I at this place? Yeah, I understand. That if we go, you gotta pay bills. Your recent special, Rich Boss Anonymous. It was filmed at Narcotics Anonymous at a convention. What was unique about that performance? Well, no one's ever done that. Obviously, I didn't show the audience because it was a 12-step convention. But my backdrop is so cool. The beginning, the editing. My wife did the intro, directed it. It's so cool. I mean, I taped it a while ago, but we just put it up. But no one's ever done it, what I did. You know, and it's pretty cool. I talk about, you know, I talk about some recovery, some, you know, regular stuff, and it's just cool. It looks, it shot very well. Amazon, Rich Boss Anonymous. You know, the guy that intro'd me, who did the warm-up, you know, went on to warm-up was Tim Dillon, who is a major star now. What? Wow. He was the warm-up act. And then, so he's the one who introduced you, could hear his voice. But he's so funny. So funny. It's so weird. I've seen people just explode in this business. Explode. That's pretty amazing. I have longevity and respect for my peers. And I've always done well, but I've seen comics. They're like, what the hell? What are some new specials and projects and goals that you want to hit before you hit the checkout counter coming up for Rich Boss? I guess one of my goals is, you know, game night at your house. Okay. You're welcome any time. I'm driving to that area. What's the goal? To worry Gady on the golf course. I've done it before. Shoot the 70s. Get my game back. If I sound out of it, because I'm exhausted from traveling, but I would, this was very exciting. You could tell that I was very excited. I could see it. You had great questions. Well, thanks. I appreciate it. Rich, Rich Boss, thank you for joining me on Comedy Saved Me. And thanks for your sage advice and wisdom. And I really do wish you nothing but the best in the future. And if you ever want to come to game night, anytime, come on by. I'll leave a light on for you. Oh, okay, Red Roof. Thank you for having me.