Jameis Winston, The Boys Are Back In Studio, Kevin Durant's Alleged Burners, NBA All Star Game, Olympics And Vacation Recap

Hey, part of my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon music. On today's part of my take presented by Draft Kings, the boys are back. We're back in studio. Everyone's back from a nice vacation, little football detox, and we've got a lot of things to talk about. National Sports Podcasts can be humming today. We also have a great interview with James Winston. He drops some news for us that we were very excited about. Very, very excited about it. So awesome time with him. And then at the after the James interview, we'll do a little recap of all of our travels back at it. And it's all brought to you by our friends at Game Time. The Game Time app gives you a vantage back to fans. It's a hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. And the Game Time guarantee means you can trust you get 100% authentic tickets on time at the best price. 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But I want to just start with the most important thing, PFT. I think you know what I'm going to say. Hank, any words for Sam Donald? Got anything you want to say to Sam Donald? Can Gras to Sam Donald? Okay, because I feel like we didn't really, we didn't fully recap the Super Bowl. So anything you want to say about Sam Donald? No, respect him. Yeah, I wanted to go to you first to hear your voice. Hank did, uh, did Sam Donald turn back into Sam Donald? I'm happy for Sam Donald. Good guy. A lead quarterback. Elite Elite. Elite top five. Yeah, if we put, if we put Jalen Hertz to the top five, he's got to be the top five. Has to be, has to be, give me top five. Trink May, Sam Donald, Josh Allen, Caleb Williams, Shane Daniels. Oh, wow. Okay, okay. All right. Yeah, that's fine. I agree. Yeah, we do a piece us. Turn over new. We had guests. They were, we're, we're, we had some technical differences. Friendship time. We had to pause for say you said I'm so over all of this. No, no. I lost my voice. Yeah, the teacups. Teacups got you. All right, washmown. Well, you could, you know, we could put you on a minute's restriction here, load management. We are back though. Where do we want to, so we have so many national sports podcasts topics. So we start with the fact that we had all-star game, a dunk contest, a three point shootout where Damien Lillard, one who he's not even playing this year. But really, the big story was Kevin Durant might have had another burner exposed. And it's fucking awesome because, well, we have no facts to back it up that it's truly him. I'm just going to choose to believe it's him because he has said that he still has a burner out there. And if this is the one, he's got a lot of relationships to repair. He's got takes. I don't know that he's got relationships to repair, necessarily. He's just, listen, the man, all he does is just talk shit. And if he's not going to do it behind his own account, the Katie Trey one, you know, he's open at least about the fact that he's got burners. So the burners are get off my Dickerson and get higher 777. Those are the two that appeared to have been allegedly exposed. I don't know that they're actually his. They sound like him. The best part in my opinion was the nickname that he gave to Westbrook, called him triple double cocaine bear, which is the best nickname that I've ever heard. So I credit to Kevin Durant. So you don't think he has anything to repair when he basically trashed the rocket's and shingoon can't shoot or pass. And it's your fault. That's your future to the rocket's fans in this group chat. I don't know. Listen, he might not be a shingooner. I am a shingooner. It sounds like he might have some peace to repair with them. But listen, he's going to talk shit. Kevin Durant's going to talk shit online. I think you just can't put 100% stock in what he says. The craziest part about this is that so it all kind of broke during all-star game. And again, we don't know if this is actually fact, but it's funny to run with it because it was a very funny story online. The fact that Kevin Durant in every single shot it felt like for three hours, he was on his phone. Maybe doing crisis management, or here's another theory. I think there's a chance that Kevin Durant loves Burner accounts and NBA Twitter so much. He might have been on a third burner account talking shit about KD. Yeah. Like getting in on the free clicks of how idiotic KD is. Like KD, honestly, he's rent free inside of all our heads right now. It's like every rock we look under, is that KD? Every person that replies to us online, that might be KD. It's pretty awesome. He's got a seeing ghosts. And I mean, he's a prolific poster. He's not going to ever give up the burner account life. That's something that we know about Kevin Durant. I don't think that he said anything too mean. Yeah, he would talk to a little shit, but it's not like. He was so kind of hot. There were so kind of things. That would probably be an awkward conversation. I think there was one that said like, if ever since Steve Curry got punched by MJ, he didn't fuck with dark skin guys. That one, you know, like if you see Steve Curry, he might have to have like a, if this is truly him. Yeah, he did call Jabari mentally handicapped. So he, like again, these are his teammates right now. So again, you may think that it might be nothing, but if it is confirmed to be him, I would imagine there could be a couple awkward conversations that take place afterwards. It's a little different than when his burner account was kind of just going after people, like random people on MB Twitter. He could be talking just a tremendous amount of shit about his teammates in group chats. You go to that one about the one that people think this is true. Uh, I don't, I actually don't know. That's a good question, Hank. There is the one, the, the get off my Dickerson's profile picture is the same image that Katie tweeted like five years ago. It's the owl, right? The owl. Yeah. So that one is a little bit weird, but yeah, it probably is just a Kevin Durant stand who's pretending to be him. So that's most likely what the case is. This one talking about Booker and Vogel, two dictators, Stalin and Hitler, Mussolini and Ken Jong Un. That might be, yeah, calling a guy's Hitler. You might have to have a conversation. That's what I'm saying. Like it's not, there's, it's a little bit different in that it, I'm sure Kevin Durant will be just fine, but there could be some awkward conversations. I swear I must have been Simmons. At least that friend would give me the ball. The, the, the, the potential Katie burner said about what team was he on with Simmons? Uh, the next. Um, Shane Goody said, I'm going to turn the ball over with the shitty ass team. I don't give a fuck your franchise player can't shoot or defend. That's a way bigger issue than my turnovers. Remember these guys are your future. I have to imagine that every, every NBA player is like this all the time. None of them seem very happy. I actually, I think there's no one like Kevin Durant. He is a one of one. The only guys that seem like they're happy are the Oklahoma City Thunder. Everybody else seems like there's, there's something going on in their life that makes it. In theory, being in the NBA would be the best job ever. Yeah, I think and, and you have nothing to worry about. But nobody is ever happy. Yeah, there's some guys are happy. Steph Curry seems pretty happy. Steph Curry, shout out, Steph Curry, good team it. He, uh, did you see the report last week about the Kaminga trade? And there was like the, the entire, there was a big, I think it was on Yahoo, where someone wrote about everything that like transpired in the last few years of the Kaminga. And one of the nuggets in it was that there were complaints that Kaminga's, uh, family took too much food in the family, uh, like whatever suite area. Yeah. And Steph Curry came out was like, that's ridiculous. This is fucked up. That's good team. But that's also like family. That's the stuff the family would actually argue about. We shouldn't be food shaming. The, the, the, the other one, the, the other thought I had when this all happened because it came out before the All-Star game, which the All-Star game credit to them was kind of entertaining because a couple of guys were actually trying anti-airwords was trying Wembee. Yo, Wembee was trying Yoke Kitchen and Luca were total zeros. They didn't even play in the last game. Uh, but, the, all the talk going into this weekend was the NBA All-Star game has hit like a new low. It's so bad. The three point contest, the, the dunk contest has guys that are, you know, if it weren't for, uh, who's a chase Richardson almost dying of hitting his head off the backboard and then getting in cuss, there was no real memorable moment from the, from the dunk contest. And then they were doing a new format for the All-Star game. So could there be a chance that they were like, Hey, let's leak a KD. Burner accounts so that we can, if this All-Star game doesn't work out, we have something that, that people are talking about. It's not, it's not just the All-Star weekend sucks and tanking is ruining the NBA. Maybe something kind of smart by that to share screenshots of online. Instead of Michael Jordan screenshots this weekend. Listen, Michael Jordan won the Daytona 500. I don't know what you're talking about. He did. He did. He won the Daytona. Brian has not done that. Yeah. Oh, speaking of LeBron, not that we're keeping track of any of these things, but did you know that LeBron broke a record today? Did not know that. Yeah. He, uh, his lost his 11th All-Star game most of all time. Wow. Wow. Very impressive. Yeah, but you got to get there. You got to get there. Wait, wait. I'm going to lose it. So is it, did every game today, counter, was a loss? I know I think one, but so, yeah, they did, they did, they did not, they did not end up winning the, because they didn't win the overall. Yeah, there were two losers. The, the stars are stripes and then the world got it. And then one of the stars are stripes one USA one USA one, the good part of the USA. Big time. Big time. Good for us. I did like Anthony Edwards being like, I haven't been on social media in three years. Yeah, we know. Yep. We, we, we know, dude. We know. But yeah, that was just, uh, there was a lot of, uh, weird shit that came out. It's, it's very funny. Like the Katie, you can basically just anytime there's a lull, just hit the Katie burner, you know, controversy and, and NBA Twitter just, uh, erupts in, in everyone just having a great time. Like I, I think we've been pretty consistent about the All Star game recently, where if you get mad about the All Star game, like what are you expecting? Yeah. Well, you have, we have no real room to be upset with anymore. But no, I don't care. So bad for so long. I will say that, that Mac McClun, not being in the dunk contest sucked. He should have been in there. Well, so he actually chose not to. Yeah, but he should, they should have made him so I hate that I'm saying this, but I did read an entire feature on Mac McClun today. And he, it kind of sucks. He basically decided not to do it because he's been almost boxed in to being the dunk guy. And it talked about his journey, being in G league, being in two way contracts. How after he won the first one, you know, Reggie Miller was saying, you know, give this guy a contract and his, his mom was talking to Adam Silvering. So hey, this is finally going to be the moment. None of that happened. And after three in a row, he was like, this is not going to like help my, you know, help me get a contract. And you just keep working on my game. So I actually feel bad for, he's become a prisoner of the dunk. Yeah. But as I've had multiple times in his career, because he said in college, he didn't dunk for an entire year because everyone wanted to talk about his dunks. Right. But still, I think this show, more than maybe any other show has talked about Mac McClone outside of the dunk contest, probably more than every other sports podcast combined. Yeah. He should be on an act. He should be playing in the NBA, but I especially need him during the dunk contest. But I feel I feel bad for like in the dunk contest. He said that if, if he goes in, then other guys will actually drop out because they know that he'll kick his ass. Oh, we might have lost chase Richard. Yeah. Yeah. These guys might be afraid to be in that. No, no, I felt bad for Mac McClone. He's like, everyone just sees me as the dunk guy. And I'm trying to make an NBA roster and it's not helping me. So he, he, he did release the dunks that he would have done, which would have been sick. Yeah. But yeah, I feel I, I feel I'm happy that Mac McClone was like, you know, what, you can't just use me for my dunks anymore because that was kind of what it was. So like, hey, well, let's hit the Mac McClone button so that we can have at least something to watch on Saturday night. It's like, no, put me in the NBA and then I'll come back. You know what? I'm going to join him. I'll go on strike from dunking until Mac McClone's on an NBA roster. Yeah. Will you join? Yeah. I'm in. Absolutely. Memes. Actually, no, no promises. Oh, okay. You're going to dunk again or attempt to say no promises or talk about dunking versus. I'm on promise that I will not be done. Okay. All right. Absolutely. I'm not making any promises. Not with that voice. No. The, we also had Adam Silver is maybe going to address tanking. Yeah. There's going to maybe be a tournament among the lottery teams to determine draft order. I kind of like that. I also don't. My, my rule that I came up with or actually I think our, our, our colleague and good friend Nick came up with it. If you, what they need to do for all sports is if you don't reach a certain level of win percentage in consecutive years, you have to sell the team, which that would be awesome too. If you win less than 20 games in the NBA for three years straight, you should have to sell the team. I think that if, uh, if they're playing on doing this tournament, they're going to have all the lottery picks play against each other and then the winner of that then gets the first pick. Yeah. What is the stop a team that's going to be like, you know, bottom half the playoffs Yeah. From tanking to get to the lottery and then dominating that. It's not well thought out. I don't think that's going to work at all. No, I think this is actually one of the worst ideas that he said. Yeah. What, no, what they should do, it feels pretty simple is that it should be like after March, uh, or whatever, pick a random date and be like losing does no, no longer helps you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like the, like the losses do not add to your, right to your lottery balls at this point. Like, they're so far. I'm sure you date me like, guess what? It's set. So I obviously that would just move, taking out maybe a little bit like earlier in the year. But yeah, it does suck right now that it seems like half the league is going to, or not half the league, but there's a quality like seven or eight teams are like, we're just not even Jaren Jackson has knee surgery. Yeah, they're, they're the jazz. There's certain teams that are, that are ethically tanking. Yeah. That are just honestly bad at playing bass. Correct. Not because they're, they're manipulating the roster in any weird way. Those teams, I feel like they get absolutely fucked. There's only one way that you can really establish like a true turnaround in the NBA. And that's to either trade for a superstar somehow have one fall into your lap. Uh, it would be to be one of the like, handful of five destinations that a top tier free agent would want to go to to build a franchise or just luck out in the draft lottery. And it feels like this would be a really easy way for that to all kind of backfire and to have like average teams now tank just to get into the lottery, then be people's asses to get the number one overall pick. Adam Silver did say that he would also consider getting rid of the draft and making all rookies free agents. That would be fast. That is like Florio's wet dream. Yeah. That Florio has been on this. He's been, he's been spouting this for a long time that every college kid coming into the NBA or the NFL. Yeah. Should be a free agent and then teams can allocate what they like guys can come and be like, Hey, I want to play for a winner. I'm going to take less money because of the cap. But they can circumvent the cap. How trees trees trees tree company throughout about the trees. And then shoot studios. It's you deals. If that tree money doesn't come through, then you can just find a judge in Alabama. I'll let you go back to school. That's true. Or a judge in Alabama that won't let you go back to school. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, judging Mississippi, they'll let you go back to school. Mm hmm. A judge in Alabama that won't let you go to school. Yep. Yeah. It's a good point, Hank. Yeah, I mean, it would be interesting to see how it worked out. I think it would make the league worse. This is like, whatever was like we should pay college players, then I know how happened. And yeah, now here we are having one of the best college students. We've had a really long game football season rock. The player was awesome. Never mind. I know there are some doubts. I know there's definitely some doubts. Normally against it. Like I think it's bad, but you think in IELs bad. I think it's it's reversed. I put liquor, Hank. Let's go. No, never mind. What a great is college football season. Never greatest college basketball season. Never the star player of cases doesn't even play because it's like his agents to one of the play. So he can get drafted higher. That isn't not okay. That's because of drafting. Yeah. That has nothing to do with NIL. It also. Yeah. And I honestly argue. Yeah. You can honestly argue it would be worse if there wasn't NIL. Yeah. Yeah, because they at least get paid now. Like there's a lot of guys who are playing really hard because they're making a lot of money now. All right, that's wrong. I'm sorry. No, no. It's okay. You once have a Sam Donald again. It is good to just be like, your voice is crack. You just use the term, you know, nowadays within NIL. It just, it just covers like everything that you don't like about the sport. You're right that there are definitely some, some bad side effects at NIL. It, there are some, some moments where, I mean, it's hard to root for your college team now because guys changed nonstop. NIL and basketball this year has like, it has been an incredible basketball season. But yeah, there's some downside to NIL for sure. You're absolutely spot on. Yeah. We're positive now. We're friends. Yeah. You know what Hank? I'd like for you, maybe it was Zach. I'd like for you to design counter programming for next year's bar still half time show with Mensey. To like your non woke bar still half time show. That would be cool. The one with Mensey was too woke. It was like, oh, it was hippie, hippie, hippie, hippie, drug use. That kind of shit. What don't you listen to be there? What don't you like about it? Why are you going to be there? I'll be at the game. Don't I bring it? It's a rule. Yeah. We'll be back. You want to back? No. You're a bad. You want to bet? You want to bet? You pussy? Make a bet. Nope. All right. Make a bet. All right. Bet you five bucks. Okay. I deal. But Hank, your point was correct that NIL has some very big downsides. Not apparently not. Best college football season. No, no, no. This is not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This college basketball season has been incredible. But there have been some parts NIL that are head scratchers and really annoying. Well, you just use one example that didn't have anything to do with NIL. That was the only thing that players getting paid. No, you use the Kansas guy as an example, but that's because he has an agent. I do think he's not playing because he has an agent. I do think it's not playing because he doesn't want to hurt his draft stock. And who do you think is telling him to do that? You don't think that these guys have had a agent, but you don't think they've had. Yeah, they've had. They want to outdo, but they're not really. They were not allowed to. Not real agents, but they had guys that were telling them what they were going to do. But they okay. Yeah. But like you're like, you're saying they might have a good. Here's why that sucks for has an actual agent. Right. And it's agent who is looking out for his best interest to make money in the NBA. He's like, don't play. Here's why I think that's not him in the right now. Like I shouldn't play. Here's why I think that sucks right now is because. The way that NIL is set up, you, you're relying on a bunch of donations from like local business guys, famous boosters, alumni that are well off of the school that are going to try to pay to get you the best roach as possible. The second they start paying millions of dollars. We're talking like millions dollars for a quarterback, millions of dollars for a star, star basketball player. And those guys just take the money and don't pay. Don't play. Then that money is going to dry up for an IL. So like that does affect everybody and it sucks. But it's not like guys weren't, they didn't have agents that they would talk to beforehand. And they would sometimes like we had guys sitting up bowl games because of college, because of the draft stock. COVID was either guys sitting out like a person sat out the full year. Yeah. Derek Stingley. Didn't he sit out? He might have. I know. Yeah, I know Parsons did. Yeah. Either way, back to the NBA, I just love that going into the all star weekend, it was just all negative talk. I feel like everyone was just tanking all star weekend sucks. You just got to get through February gets the playoffs. We had the, what if it was a black first white game debate? Yeah, Nick right through that out there. I like that. We've had that. Who get, who gets Steph Curry? Cause if we can get him for the third quarter, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We just got. I don't know. If we had him for the third quarter, I like our odds. Yeah. Were there, were there American guys playing on the, on the world team too? Today, were there memes or the rosters? Somebody, somebody was cats from New Jersey, but he's been on the team. He plays on, he plays international. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, listen, it was actually better than I thought it would be. This, like this one, there was guys trying and there were moments where I was like, okay, this is actually a somewhat of a fix. But yeah, you, to your point, PFT, like we, I'm done ever caring about the all. So the only all-star game that's still as cool or holds any relevance is the baseball all-star game because you can still throw 99 and still try to hit a dog off someone. Yeah. And even that, we had the controversy last year. And we have the team left and we had the swing off. And we had the swing off. We remember it was mad because like Aaron judge was gone. Yeah. Like, yeah, they're not going to care about all-star games. Their exhibitions are supposed to be fun. Kind of like that four nations thing that we had last year. Who exactly knows who won that? You're not supposed to remember who won these things. It's just it's something that will be on your TV to entertain you on a day in which there should not normally be sports on TV. Yes. So just be glad that you get to see a hoop and a ball and then some guys that you recognize from other games and be like, oh, okay, this is a sport. Yeah. I get to watch it. Maybe even better. The other, the only other NBA story I had was Chris Paul retired when we were on vacation. Probably the worst retirement tour ever because he got cut from the clippers and then his right sense of Toronto and he's like, I think I'm just done. I read another long. So I had a flight today. So I was doing some reading. No big deal. Not to brag. But basically what went wrong. And it just was an entire article about Chris Paul just being the most annoying guy in the world to be around because he was he was brought in as a, you know, as a reserve player. And he just tried to coach everyone. Yeah. And do team meetings after the first game of the season when they lost and telling guys that, you know, they're not trying switching defensive adjustments and all this stuff. I can't understand why the clippers are like, hey, we can't do this anymore. Yeah, they're like, Chris Paul has just become the coaches right guys. Let's all listen. Like he was a, he was a narc. They never really trusted him. No, it's the other way that Chris Paul was a narc. No, but he was, no, he was going, he was going against the coaches, but he was telling that he was trying to coach himself. No, he was, he was saying like the coaches are wrong trying to coach the players. And then and the coaches were like, hey, we brought you into just like be a reserve guy, be like a good go with the flow. He was trying to hold like he, the one of the stories was they lost after the first, they got blown out in the first game of season and Chris Paul, they all get back to the locker room. Chris Paul wants to have like a discussion with the team about it. And everyone was like, no, dude, we don't want to do that. And then there was another one where it's like he's trying to get guys to work out or like telling guys how to play. Yeah, he just seems, I think it's more credit, I guess it would be credits Chris Paul for having such a long career because he only knows one speed. And that's just be an insane competitive psycho all the time. And they brought him in being like, hey, can you just be a chill guy for your last year? And he couldn't do it. I don't think anybody that said that much success when most people would not be good at accepting that rule. But they just put their all got like the so the story goes to that afterwards, they had a three way FaceTime, his him, Blake Griffin and what's the what's the tall guy's name from those teams? Deandre Jordan. And they so like they had maybe had a not they had a little icy relationship, but it's thought recently the three of them and they all were kind of having a laugh because they all got screwed over by the clippers at some point and just laughing about it. Yeah. And it's just like like a Blake Griffin or Deandre Jordan, like he they they are able to play maybe not all like a starter minutes and be a positive influence to the team. Chris Paul can't like he just has to be Chris Paul. Yeah. At all times. Yeah. I mean, he just didn't I don't know. I need to read this article and figure it out. It's good. About what he didn't didn't do because it seems to me like if you're getting Chris Paul on your team, you there's enough body of evidence to know what Chris Paul is going to be, right? So like is that like this is something that just crept up? Correct. Well, he was on the clippers. They thought they had a plan. He's been bad before and a bad fit on other teams recently. Correct. And they're like, this can work with us because of a reason because it's his last year. We want to send him off, you know, in a nice way and all that stuff. But yeah, it's just was never going to work. I think I think one of the quotes was just like he when he was a good player, he's a pain in the ass. Now that he's not a good player, he's still paying the ass. You can't have that. Right. Cause I haven't seen much from Chris Paul that showed any mellowing out over the last years. Correct. Correct. Yeah. Inside the ugly Chris Paul LA clippers divorce. That was from Ramona, Shelburton. It was it was it was extensive, extensive. I just love reading any of these stories after the fallout. Yeah. And everyone being like, yeah, we saw this coming. I mean, I guess he was this was from an executive. He was a pain in the ass when he was a great player. And now he's not a great player. I guess he was a good teammate when he's on spurs, right? Yeah. I think he didn't hear that much about him when he was in San Antonio. Yeah. I think it's more just it's hard to he wants to be very involved when and it's hard. If you're it's a it the clippers were a team with a lot of veterans who didn't need a Chris Paul telling like disperse your young team. So probably work better. So embrace debate is he on is he on the Mount Rushmore of the greatest of all time to not get a rank. I mean, he's one of the greatest point guards of all time. That's for sure. So I don't know. Yeah, he might be Hank basketball probably. Yeah, he probably is. I'm trying to think of who else Isaiah Isaiah, which Isaiah? No, you know what? Katie. Katie, Katie, which Isaiah were you talking about? I was about to refer to Isaiah Thomas, but then I realized that he did win a ring. Two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I had a mixed up with the dream team. Got it. Not on the dream. Was it on the dream team? Listen, we're coming back from vacation back from vacation. Come alone, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, AI Patrick Ewing. Yeah, Steve Nash. He's definitely in that category. Chris Paul. Yeah, he's definitely up there with great player, great point card. Well, maybe have a Barcelona to do a full breakdown of how good Chris Paul was. He worked at 21 years in the NBA. He's crazy. That is a very long time. It's a very, very long time. Okay. Before we do some other stories, quick break Chevy Chevy football season might be over, but you know how it goes. The minute the big game ends, we're already talking about what's next free agency. The draft, who's getting paid? Who's grinding? Because for football guys, there's no offseason. That's exactly why they roll with the Chevy Silverado Silverado. The truck that shows up every time built a hall toe and take a beating, but smart. 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We will talk about the Olympics. I want to talk about the Olympics. Okay. What you go ahead curling curling major draw. I didn't see it. Okay. I didn't see it. I didn't who is to say. All right. So here's I saw the replay. It seems unclear. I did I did I did some legwork again. Like I said, I had a had a long flight today. So I was prepared for the show. I got our expert. I got a report from our expert all business Pete on the curling controversy. So I'm going to explain it to you how he explained it to me. And I think it actually makes sense. So in curling, the first thing you got to know is it's a gentleman's sport in that you don't. There are no like umpires. There are no refs. There's no umpires. There are guys that are there to help up like settle disputes and and measure the rocks and all that shit. But there's no official ref. Okay. It's like community organ. Yes. So you call your own files. You're supposed to you're not supposed to call files on the other team. You're supposed to call your own files. All that stuff. Now the hog line, I believe is that green line. It's the hog line. That's the hog line. You are not allowed to touch the stone past the hog line. And this is something I didn't realize that Pete told me that's very interesting. The whole you're not allowed to touch you're not supposed to touch the stone. Except for the holder piece. You're not supposed to touch the granite. There's a handle. Yeah, the handle. Thank you. Hank, the handle. There's a sensor on the handle. So if you're holding this the the handle past the hog line, there will be a sensor that goes off. That's why he's touching the granite because there's no sensor on the granite. And apparently everyone knew the Canada was cheating. Sweden had their own broadcast cameras basically set up on the hog line to catch them in the act. Then they called them out on it. And also you're not supposed to swear. That was the other thing I learned. You're not supposed to swear during curling. It's a gentleman. So like the fact that the Canadian guy said, fuck off was disgusting. Like kids are watching. All right. So I'm looking at this replay that they brought up. Yep. You zoomed in on it. Yep. I mean, it's she who is to say they cheat. And my my understanding is that there's no actual cheating in the sport because there's no rules in the sport. Yeah, but there's it's a gentleman's it's similar to golf. So they found you're supposed to call your own files. They found a loophole, which is that if there's no actual refs, then people can cheat and get away with it. Correct. But now they look like absolute assholes. And Canada cheats. This is a bad look for Canada. Big time. Just Canada as a nation. I thought that they would be better than this. I want to make sure I didn't miss anything. But yeah, it's it's good. It's controversy. It's good. Listen, it's good for the sport. The US is good now, right? At curling. So the US, we need to get behind team USA because that was the other thing I got from Pete. I asked him how we're doing. He said, the women's team is never won a medal. And they're actually playing really well. And the men's team was the ninth out of 10 team to qualify. And they're also playing really well. So he was like, it's tremendous team pride in country pride. I said, I don't root for losers. I want to win. He said, well, you have a national sports podcast. You get behind team USA. Consider me right. As this moment, officially behind team USA and curling. Why don't we just cheat harder than Canada does. Yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to make sure that I don't I didn't miss any. He sent me way too much shit. And he said that at the beginning, it's, it's really boring. So he, he, Pete's official call is for Canada to clean it up. They need to clean up the cheating. They need to clean it up. Just clean it up, tighten up the sheet. Okay. All right. Hey, that's a fair call. Why don't they just do fights like it's it's hockey adjacent. You're on the ice. Yep. Just settle it like men on the, it's a curling arena on the lanes. Yeah, the sheet of ice. I think I'm playing curling with Pete on it. Settle it on the lanes like a man. Yeah, they should just punch them in the face. You won't do it again. Just take that fingers stick it up his ass. Even muttering the effort to yourself would be considered a faux pod curling. I just don't like the candidates. I guess Canada hasn't won a gold in like 10 years, too. And this is supposed to be their sport. So they're getting frustrated. It is a bad look for Canada as a whole. The reputation that we have. And it matters because what he's doing when he, when he puts his finger on the granite is he's, he's correcting his release. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? He's releasing the stone and then he's fixing it a little bit with the, with the extra finger. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we've had this controversy before in curling. Like there, there have been teams that have been accused of keeping the finger on the stone for too long. But it does seem like this was a setup by Sweden because they knew. Oh yeah. No, they did advanced scouting of Canada and they knew where to, where to put all the cameras. It's kind of like they could have told them beforehand. We know that you're going to do it. Don't do it. But they almost would rather catch them. Apparently, like, pose them. Apparently great Britain also had cameras set up. They all knew. So candidate cheats. And that's our curling minute. Do we have any other Olympic stuff? I saw the guy going backwards down the... That was sick. That was so sick. Yeah. I just assumed that's how all those like freestyle, mogul races, finish, you should have to go backwards at the end. I'm ready for the hockey. I'm ready for the hockey, like, meaningful hockey games to happen. We, we, we won our first two games. Three. Three games. Now we're in the, the bracket phase. I'm ready. I'm ready for team candidates. Austin, it's fun getting a route for Austin Matthews. Yeah. That's pretty cool. It's tough having a route against Tom Wilson. I'm going to hate him. It was funny watching Matthew Kachak say to Leon dry side. I'll always abrides made. Also Brady Kachak met Elmo. Yeah. Did you see that? He said it was a unique opportunity to meet Elmo. It is. I don't even understand how that. I don't understand what the context is of that. They've already got their... Why were they meeting Elmo? I get Elmo and the muppets they show up around these things all the time. They're just, they're just there. Yeah. Elmo's there? Elmo's always around. Brady Kachak called it a unique opportunity to meet Elmo. Do we have a mascot for these Olympics? The official mascot for Olympic Games, right? They always crack me up. Yeah. It's just a big meatball. Is it? That would be funny if it was like an auto the orange meatball. What do you, Max, you got probably... If I mean that mascot. I feel like I was anti-atallian discrimination by you not knowing that it was in Italy. How did you not know that it was... I knew it was in Italy. I just couldn't remember what is it, Tareno? It's... No, it's Milan. Tareno was the last one. There's two cities. Oh. It's split. Milan and where? I haven't watched a lot of the Olympics. I'm waiting for the hockey to get good. The quad gods, you that. You have dominated today. This was the first one that I watched from start to finish. Yeah, but I want the knockout face. I'm ready for the knockout face because it wasn't the beginning of the hockey. It's like we're gonna, we're gonna be in the knockout. That's what I like about the curling is. The curling, it seems like it lasts from the very start to the very end of the Olympics. It is. It is. It is. It's like there's 10 teams in everyone's place. There's each other and the worst. And then there's a final four on starting on Thursday. Oh, we do have an update to that by athlete that apologized to his girlfriend for cheating on her. Oh, yeah. She said that she was not impressed and is not taking back. Good for her. Yeah. Girl power. Should have been a gold. She takes them back. So we're playing Sweden or Latvia. That's our next game on Wednesday. We're gonna crush them. And then if we get to the finals, it's Saturday morning. It's Sunday morning at 8 a.m. Kind of love that. Oh, love sports Sunday mornings at 8 a.m. It's real good, especially in foreign soil. International. Love that shit. Pumped. It has to be US Canada. It has to be. This if the Olympics, if they were anything like, you know, our fancy American sports leagues or like FIFA, they would rig it to make sure that US and Canada played no matter what. I hope they do the right thing. Yeah. I'd agree. Did you guys hear the crazy story from the Olympic Village? Oh, I'm having sex again. Yeah. Listen, there's a few different rights of passage that you have every single Olympic games. One is like a reporter complaining about their hotel room and like the the faucet was just installed and it just shoots out brown water. And I'm gonna complain. Yeah, there's wolves walking down the hallway. There's usually a there's actually usually a curling controversy. You know, our ice controversy like we've had this year. And then there's a sex talk with condoms. And then there's always some person being like, why is this a story every time? And there really is no reason other than the fact that it's a bunch of super athletic early 20 year olds living in a village college. It's college with only hot bodies. Yeah. They're going to fuck. It's it's ASU. They're definitely going to fuck. That's all it is. It's ASU. So that's what's happening in Milan right now. So everyone's just mocking each other. Yeah. Well, who are these two mascots here? That'll be Milo and Tina. Milo and Tina. What are they otters? I don't know. What the fuck are they? I think Milan and Cortina. So I'm a I think that's where it's taking place. I think they're climate changing weasels. Oh, okay. Oh, no. Are they are they related? Shame on you, Max. Climate changing we maybe a ferret ferrets. Climate if they're climate changing weasels. They get hot and cold. Should have been a meatball. Should have been a little Italian flags. Should have been a meatball. I need to know more about the lore behind these two or they brother sister. We're third why do they look different? Poland's mascot is a parogi. That's all they are brother and sister. Okay, good. Good. How come they look different? Different dad? Different mom. Older sister Tina represents the Olympic winner games younger brother Milo represents the Paralympics and has a limb difference. Wait, so the younger brother and uses his tail to. I don't know. Yeah, for parallel. All right. This is good. Yeah, this is from NBC.com. Okay. So the. Well, laughing at him right now, but the younger one is an amputee. He's lost the leg. His motto is obstacles are trampolines. Okay. Well, the system is by the words. He's just saying big. Do we have seems more dangerous for a parallel. Right? Yeah. All the obstacles were trampolines. Do we know how he lost his leg? Is this a landmine? I think double bounce is only one leg. Yeah, on a trampoline. That can't be fun. That could be how he lost the leg too. Yeah. By the way, the metal update, Norway's kicking everyone's ass. I don't care about the silver and bronze. I just want the gold. We're in third right now. Canna has one gold medal. Disgusting. That's sad. Yeah, really sad. Really fucking sad. Milo and Tina. Tina could get it. Yeah. I said it. What are they? What are we? Technically stoats, a weasel like creature native to the Italian Alps. They're cute as fuck. I still have to. They're cute as fuck. Any other Olympic stuff. I still have yet to watch like a significant portion of the Olympics. I'm going to do it this week. No. Their coats change color. Oh. In the summer, they are brown. And then in the winter, they change to white. This is like one way that stoats adapt to their climate. This is a fun aren't we? How can we celebrate stoats? But then we lock Rachel Dulles-Ellup in prison. Shout out to NBC. Fun article. What a hang's got to take. Hanks brewed on a take. I want to hear it. Let it rip. Really bad. Go. I want it so bad right now. You don't like you don't like other countries. Come on. Now this is something. This is a drunk. This is a drunk take that. Let's go. But the conversation, I think we did summer Olympics when we talk about Olympic sports you're going to meddle in. Yeah. Oh, I like this. The skeleton. Yeah. Is a joke. Well, I don't know. I think that's actually like proven fact that the average amount of person to take, they have three years experience. Yeah. I also think that the skeleton is terrifying. I also saw one tweet that said that I have no idea if that's actually true. It's not. It was a reply tweet to someone being like, what should I do? Maybe we need to get a skeleton or a illusion. Major on here to tell us we're so wrong. How do you even trade? That's my, that is my biggest gripe with some of these sports. When you're watching Michael Phelps swim or you saying bolt run, you're like, that is the greatest runner swimmer of all time, right? Like he's better than everyone. When I watch the best loser win by a fraction of a second, I'm like, well, that guy just decided to lose 99.9% of the world just doesn't do lose. It's like that. Why would we do lose? That dude's got a great helmet and a very fast suit and he's like a jockey weighs the exact right amount and then he trains occasionally. It doesn't feel like it requires that much skill, but it does seem scary as far. I think the only skill requires is having a parent who's, who's hell bent on getting their kid in the Olympics and they just throw him on a lose when their kids. Yeah. So how you, I've never even been around a loose. No. I haven't seen a loose track. Like how do you get into the loose? How do you get into the skeleton? Your problem. Bob said seems like a fucking good time. That's just you and the boys. She's like going down a hill. Yeah. Also one of the greatest movies of all time. Bob said this little shit. So maybe that's the thing. Luz has to get a like sick movie. The skeleton. Is there a difference? Yeah. Luz's feet first skeletons headfirst. But same thing. Is it a thing that there's actually partners? Is that not right, man? Is partner loose? I have no idea. I feel like it's all about your equipment. Right. But that's not, like that's not, and you're got all. We make jokes out of your ghetto. Well, that's the, yeah. We make jokes about sprint. It's just running fast to start. I mean, cool running proved it. Right. It's got a bunch of sprinters and almost one the whole thing. We make jokes about like, you know, the problem. I don't think that that's true. I don't think that they almost won the whole thing. I don't feel the right. I think they crash in the area. They crash in the end and better ball play. Oh, you're telling me they had a better bobsled. They were breaking records. But here's a stone-cold fact. Dereesbannick was flying. If the University of Georgia wanted to, correct. They could take their guys that love to break the laws on the roads, put them on a bobsled track and become a dinosaur. Devon H.H.A.M. would be the best loser of all time. Like, give me a not a super tall guy who's super fast. Tyrique, Brandon, I, you. Yeah. I just realized all of our knowledge of this is based on cool runnings. Correct. Like, I was thinking, I was trying to explain it to Hank and we both were just saying that we were both going back to cool on it. You can't put weights in the bobsled. Yeah. Okay. Can't do that. Otherwise, it'll bust up John Candy. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna need you to bring up a video of doubles loose. Yeah, those guys just laying on each other. Dumbled loose as wild. That is wild. You talk about a wild sport. Look at that. I have to think it might. That's gotta be pretty hard. That's gotta be harder than normal loose. Yeah. Like the balance of the guy on top. But I watched it and I don't even understand. I actually did watch. I can't, I think it was women's loose. And they were all, they were all within like us of point oh five seconds of each other. It's like, I don't even understand how. Mm-hmm. They go, oh, she took that turn wrong. No, she didn't. She went find down the turn. Yeah, bobsled looks awesome to me. That guy's got his face in his ass. I'm pretty sure that was a little bit more sharp. That was AI, that was AI. Is there a, is there women's doubles loose? There's gotta be. I feel like it'd be faster if the guy on top was face down. Well they should go 69. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they should 69 the double loose for sure. They don't have women's double loose. That seems like a mix. I'm not seeing women's the doubles. Oh, that's kind of fucked up. Big time miss. Yeah. I'm also searching Twitter, which is, I have a bad tendency to do. It's okay. This has been good Olympic talk. I feel like we've gotten a lot of women's double loose. Yeah, there's women's double loose. It's like good, good. Yeah, so the European countries all win these. So I feel like that's like their third biggest sport. Like we have football, we have basketball, we have baseball, they have soccer, then like some ancient sport where they hit each other with a stick and then loose. I feel like the basketball should be a winter Olympic sport. I don't hate that take. I don't hate that at all. It should just to get us another goal. Give us something to care about during the winter Olympics because right now we got hockey and that's pretty much it. Yeah, and curl it. Long jump as well. Yeah, sure, you can do it. Long jump in the snow. Yeah, yeah. Finch and Nassix is also inside. That could be. Yeah, yeah, why is Fincing a summer Olympic sport? I don't know. Yeah, it's good Olympic talk. Good Olympic talk. I'm going to watch some Olympics this week. I'm going to really get into it. I think I'm going to become a big curling. And when I say that, I'm going to want, I'm going to, if I remember to turn it on, I will curling is tough. I started the way it is this morning. It's Bautchie. Without the Italians, without a fat Italians having like bust each other's balls. That's really what it need. Bautchie would be fine. Bautchie would be fine. It would be great. Just some like old Italian guys just, you know, having the same bitter argument they've had every single week for 40 years straight. Bautchie should absolutely be in the summer. Now that's a summer Olympic sport. That's a definition of a summer sport. Correct. So curling to me seems like it's a sport that's normally played with a beer in your hand, right? Uh, yeah. Maybe Bautchie. You're thinking of Bautchie. No, I know for a fact, Bautchie, but it seems like curling would be the endork with how would you hold the broom? Yeah, you got to, there's definitely some guys that can hold the broom in the beer. Or maybe you put your beer down while you do it. What if we did, what if we did an Olympics, but it was all beer games? Whoa. And then you have like different teams competing against. Yeah. What would you call it? Beer Olympics. Beer games. Get like Bert in shame to come. Mm hmm. If you fucking sick, be so sick. I'm down. Okay, any other national sport, should we talk some college basketball? Actually, not the best Saturday, although Texas Tech awesome win against Arizona. Um, I, I'll just say this. I, I made, oh, I have two, two topics I want to talk about, but I did make some future bets. I tweeted out when I made them, but I bet Florida 19 to one Ucon 15 to one and the Badgers at 150 to one because the badgers keep slaying giants and have had quite the week. And Max is the biggest Badger fan out there, which is great. Max's? Because Villanova beat Wisconsin December. We have every time we have good wins. So it's the better for better Wisconsin does. It's like I was told that the actual text would be, I was told, I was told, I was told Villanova solid in. I saw it locked to get in. I think the badgers are solid in now. Yeah, we're, I think we're both at an eight, eight seed right now, which is still as that solid in. I mean, it was awesome. No, it was got 20 wins. Kicking the shit out of Michigan State was very, very fun. The other one was that foul in the Providence St. John's game. I, Providence's, they got to get rid of came English because it feels like, I love, I love Providence Twitter, but it feels like Providence Twitter in this, not their fault because it's the fans, but Providence is a program has become way more about getting revenge than actually winning basketball games. Like, can't wait for Ed Cooley to come back to the dunk. Mm hmm. Can't wait for Bryce Hopkins to come back to the dunk. Mm hmm. And they just have one basketball games again, that's Kim English just fault, but we got to, we got to get back to winning basketball games. But when they, when they lose, it's like they've got the real game coming up. Dude, it's like, how are we going to get revenge for this loss? That was, that actually was a crazy foul because it wasn't, it was bad. The picture is, is so much worse for people to see it. The picture of, of, of, of, of, of, of, powel, taking down Bryce Hopkins by the face. And then they just, they had a brawl, and they let powel just, while the rest were figuring out, they ejected him, and then he just stayed out on the court for like 20 minutes, whooping up the crowd. So, that was a interesting move. And listen, if you have that picture, if you have that haircut, and you get that foul, just understand it's going to look a million times. No, you're not going to get the benefit of any doubt. Hank, ready? NIL, back to your take. Good take. This was Duncan Powell, who is on Providence for the first, this is first year, playing for Providence, I think he's played for three more, three other schools, seeking vengeance because Bryce Hopkins transferred from Providence to St. John's, and he's on his second school or another school. So they'd never played together, but he's getting revenge. Makes no sense. It was a double reverse revenge game. He makes no sense. Yeah, that was, that was a hell of a foul. Hell of a foul. Hell of a foul. And then I, I just sang, drum tang, yeah. See ya. I don't really understand the width cause part. It feels like it's going to be. So we, Duncan Powell, that was his, this is his fourth team that he's playing on. So he's got to, he's got to make sure that for the friar, he, you know, this time it's personal. Yeah, this time it's personal. He's been on, he's been on Providence. He's bought in for over four months, and that was, that's, Bryce Hopkins, third team. Just dudes bought in. Classic rivalry. Yep. Four team, guy versus third team, guy they never played together. The, yeah, drum tang, the width cause part is going to be interesting to see what happens. With cause sounds like they were saying, hey, Jerome, you might want to, you might want to resign soon. Yeah. And then he was like, no, I don't think that I will. And they said, okay, well, we have four cause. And then tang was like, I don't believe that you do. Mm-hmm. And then they said, okay, we'll call your bluff. And now it's going to go to court. Yeah. So that'll be fun. Yeah. So there's a lot of rumors that float around out there. I don't know. It could just be as simple as him trashing all the players the other night in the press conference. Yeah. And then we also have the language is anything that brings public, disrepute embarrassment or ridicule to Kansas State, which I guess could be how many in conference wins do they have right now? They're not very good. One. Yeah. One, ain't that, that brings ridicule to Kansas State. Well, they, we have the, like, ultimate, the reason why this college basketball season is good. It's two parts. One is that there's like 10 teams that you could make the argument are national title worthy teams. Maybe not 10, but eight. Let's call it. And the other part is just some of these teams are just picking off each other left and right in the funniest way. It's like Iowa State just Kansas beats Arizona on Big Monday, which was an awesome game. Iowa State then loses to TCU on Tuesday. Then they play each other and Iowa State kicks a shit out of Kansas. Big 12 has been madness. Arizona's now lost two in a row after starting the season undefeated. It's fun. I'm having fun. What'd you learn about the Pubble there, Max? You just did a little right now, according to ESPN Wisconsin, as they should be in. I mean, we have two of you could make the argument to all the best. Two of the best wins. We beaten three top 10 teams to them on the road. Michigan's only lost and then Villanova. Villanova lock, according to lock. I'm not saying that. Biggest is down, huh? The only three teams are three teams are locks zero teams are should be in Seton Hall has work to do. And that's it. Poor pug. Yeah, really poor pug. He started off so hot. Because I was so bummed out. There's no football today. I saw pugs tweet. Yeah, I saw that too. It'll be me sad. Yeah, really sad. Yeah, although it's good to have a little break. It is. It's good. If you told me next week was week one, I'd be in, but I need one weekend. Yeah, absence makes the heart grow fun. Where's Miami of Ohio? Where they ranked right now? They are 23rd. I don't know. They're in the weird spot of being a Mac team where they should be okay, but it's going to be bullshit because if they trip up and don't win the conference tournament, it's just going to be bullshit. I'm already pre-mouthing about it. They're fun team. I'm pre-mouthing about it. Big Ben won't let that happen. Yeah, so Big Ben turns out he might not be the best guy. No, I don't want to hear that. Why was that such a story other than, I mean, Joey Porter, he said something that we all know. And it doesn't, and then it just got, the message got weirdly changed to like, Big Ben wasn't good. Big Ben was really good. Big Ben was awesome. Really good at football. Like, until the last, I'd say, two, three seasons. Big Ben, he was incredible. So much better of a football player than human being. And we all knew that. Yeah. And nothing changed. Yeah, I know there, a lot of people are doing the big Ben got carried to his Super Bowl, his first Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure his, that's true. His first Super Bowl, yes. No, but I'm, I'm pretty sure he balled out in the games before the actual Super Bowl, yes. But I'm pretty sure the games before that he balled out pretty like he was pretty damn good. The game against the Seahawks, he did not play well. And he had that, um, but he did have that game saving tackle against the Colts. Remember that? Yeah, he went, I mean, he went, uh, seven touchdowns, one interception and a three games leading up to the Super Bowl. Yeah, that tackle that he had after that goal line fumble that got, that was everything for the Steelers. And then the championship game, he's 21 for 29, 275 yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. Yeah. And the, uh, the second Super Bowl against the Cardinals, incredible game. Mm-hmm. That was one of the best games ever. Yeah. Yeah. So Big Ben though, not a good guy. So Big Ben, we do need to have you stand up for Miami, Ohio, just in case things go off the rails. You see? Big Ben stand back, stand by. Big Ben definitely, so he went to this bull riding thing in Pittsburgh, mm-hmm. This weekend, he definitely went to it just to do a little pulse check. And like, people still love me, right? And they do in Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah. And just like to talk, I don't think it's a problem. He probably did it just to talk to the other cowboys and be like, so, uh, what, what injuries do you have? Yeah. Yeah, I had that. Yeah. I had that one. Oh, it seems pretty easy. Yeah, I had that. He just wanted to swap war stories. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay, do we have any other stories before we do, uh, who's back the week and then we'll get to James Oh, Congrats Hank on the four aces? Yeah. Was that who's back the week? It was. Shit. All right. So then Congrats Hank on, uh, us not being mad about the Australia game because it might be on a Wednesday. And we're down for that. So they might go Wednesday, Thursday, just start the NFL season. If it's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, college, Saturday, NFL Sunday, I feel like it's not going to be all right. I don't think they're going to do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Why not? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they would. They already do Thursday, Friday. Yeah. What's the little Wednesday? I just think they'd swap the Friday to the Wednesday. Wednesday night football is Friday doesn't Friday isn't the best for ratings. It's I agree. It I would love it better than zero. Yeah, I know I've started the season without the champs. That would piss me off. Yeah, no, but they can do Thursday. They can do Thursday in Australia. Right, but then is that also bullshit that Wednesday is for the, is for the Seahawks? Would you feel a little slighted? No, that'd be great. You got an extra day of rest for a week too. But in terms of like the pop up circumstance of, you know, Wednesday night football. No, but no, here's the thing. If you feel a little slighted, I think with whichever teams it's going to be the Rams and the 49ers playing over in Australia, right? And Melbourne. That game has to be on Wednesday night. It has to because they're going to be playing it Thursday night, Australia time. It'll be on Wednesday and then the flight back for those two teams is 16 hours. Yeah, yeah. So they're going to need to start the season with it. They're going to need to give them. I plenty of rest. I don't think that they're going to put the Seahawks on Wednesday and then move them to one day later in Australia. I think this is guaranteed. Yes. So then that's bullshit for the Seahawks. They don't open the season. Yeah. Yeah. That would be bullshit. I think this all may I could be proven very wrong, but I think the bears are going to either put the bear's Seahawks because now if the Rams and 49ers are playing in Australia, it would make sense. It was Rams. Seahawks. But we're on the Seahawks schedule in Seattle. So I think we're going to do that. Cowboys maybe just get ready for all the prime time games which I do not want. Yeah, look up the sea love. They love it. I know that the people on their schedule as well. Super Bowl rematch. Super Bowl rematch. You'd have to we'd have to ask you about Sam Darnel. I'm betting the Patriots because you guys ran out that fourth quarter from Drake May was unreal. Just starting to heat up. Oh, well, no chiefs because my home's not going to be back. So yeah, it's I think it's a bear's. So it could be the Cowboys, the Chargers. I don't think they'll do Super Bowl rematch because Super wasn't like great. The bears wasn't like instant classic. Cowboys Chargers bears. Those are those are my three picks. You got to pick one. Hmm. I go Cowboys. I'm going to bet that they just smashed the Cowboys button. They might get a little more. Cowboys might just smash the Cowboys. The Sunday night football. That's true. They love doing that. Cowboys giants. Sunday night football. They love that shit. They love that shit. Here we are talking about talking about football. Feels good. Okay, who's back of the week? Let's do who's back of the week. Then we'll get to Jamis. Good, good Olympic stock. Maybe we'll come. How about everyone for Wednesday show? Let's all come with a fact on a certain sport, a specific sport from the Winter Olympics. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But we'll divide it on the group text so there's no, but let's all come with with the maybe a little story about whatever sport you choose. So no double dipping. No double dipping. What are we doing? We're going to do a little homework. Wednesday show. Everyone come with a little something about a sport of Winter Olympic sport. You pick one and you just dive in for a minute. All right. I mean, don't have to do a lot. It has to be one that is currently still going. Yes. Yeah, that's coming up for, let's say it's going to be on Wednesday or Thursday so that we can preview it. A metal, like a metal match. Yeah, we're going to need a schedule to figure this out. Yeah. We can handle that. No, that homework assignment almost crushed. Oh, no, no, no, no, look at Jeff D. Lois tour. He's got you. I put in a bunch of bets before I went to Florida and none of them have happened. Yeah, I love what that happens. Like I was like, all right, I'll have some action. I wanted to do that when I had a book, you like 15 years going to put in a cricket game that was like a year away. What? I thought I was betting it over at night to wake up to it. Oh, this sucks. 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Patrick read yeah left Okay Two weeks ago same time as like right right after Brooks He's not going back to the PGA Tories trying to go DP tore out. I've got this has been happening every day The more I talk my voices when did you lose your voice on Thursday? That's a long time ago Friday I didn't talk much and then I started to talk a little bit and then I lost it same with yesterday. I say Come on, Hank and true slow clap for you This is Anthony Kim's first week as a four ace. Yeah Okay, he's replacing Patrick read so it's Dustin Johnson Patrick read and then the two Tom's the Tom Towers Thomas Peters Thomas T. Tree And Anthony Kim won he beat John Ram bracing the shambles. Yeah, wow and he had to grind his way back to even playing on the live tour, right? Yeah, he got kicked off basically for not performing well enough and then they have their version of Q's cool where it's like you know 60 golfers three guys if you finish the top three you get your card Right and he won or he came in third just to keep his cards. So he was very close You know couple shots here couple shots there. He's even on live and then he won this event good for him all time come back story Very cool all time huge for the four aces. What what what is he coming back from? cocaine And in Achilles it's been in Achilles Achilles. Okay, but mostly and being retired for like 10 years Because of the Achilles injury got it. Yeah got it That's where inspiration. Yeah, it is inspiring. I mean he has like there's there's I read I read an article on the way back about you know his Passing when he quick call from why he stopped and his like substance abuse issues and getting sobering the daughter and you know His daughter basically gave him a purpose in life and oh, oh, it's just you know So golf wasn't his purpose his kid was yeah, well he had a dad like he had a tough child whereas dad was you know kind of kind of he But kid over golf No, I mean kid made him want to golf more. Yeah No, that's a great point Hank the kid made him want to focus on life to improve his golf game to provide a better life for his own kid Got it. Yeah, yeah Yeah, very cool story very very expected and it's it's interesting people are asking like are the four aces better without Patrick Reed. Yeah, I I don't want the other guy Or is he still on the aces Doesn't Johnson's the cap He's the ace. Okay, he's the ace we talk about he's the ace of ace of spades wait. They're five aces. There's four Anthony Kim Tom Powers Tom Peters. No, I know it's the Tom Tom tower Tom Powers and Anthony Kim and Tom's teacher You know that he's talking to Tom towers two Tom's Dustin Anthony Got it. How many minutes do you think we've talked about just the four aces? A lot well gotta be over 100. Well, now that now that Brooks has gone. It's like I was I was we were actually watching Live a lot this weekend because I was on at night And Brooks not being in his stay in a plate ruin the less the the luster knows on like sports time sports watching time Uh, right what sports watch the time never ends because you got an Yeah, it's nice nice time and morning. Yeah Yeah, but like for I like to watch sports at night. Yeah, boy and morning Now I'm done NFL. Oh, yeah, it's right. It's right and you can tell that Hank just recently like the Tom towers That's a new thing that he a pneumonic device. He came up with recently Remember both Tom's yeah, no, yeah, cuz one of my friends asked me and I forgot you're proud of the Tom tower So I can tell we can we cannot have either of these Tom's leave the four aces I need to know how tall the Tom towers are like are they actually tall Dude if one of the Tom's leaves the four aces Hank is gonna be so fucked Six five okay And then the other is Thomas D. Tree. Let's get him you better be tall Both from Belgium like six two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Peter you lined us up for ace for life for me Because I said that now's a fuck it's not your grandfather's four aces anymore That's for aces, but louder. Yeah, okay, PFT. You're who's back in the week My who's back of the week is the NFL Union report cards Yeah, the NFL PA report cards because so the judge ruled that The report cards were too mean and there would be in very very disrespectful and unfair and nasty to mr Woody Johnson So they're not allowed to put out the report cards this year at least not through the media But the upshot of this was through the arbitration and the deliberation The guy in his decision ended up quoting directly from the upcoming 2025 NFL team report cards in his decision to not allow them to release the report cards Okay, so we did get some of the report cards. Oh, even though they're not allowed to put the report cards out Got it. Does that make sense? Yeah, I don't even know if that makes sense, but that's how it happened So memes you were upset because you thought that they were gonna silence all the players talking about what he Johnson Not the case. We've got some what he Johnson content for you if you'd like to hear How did the jets do okay? New York Jets The union said players complained that management responded to feedback from the prior team report card by making conditions worse Including cutting the food bet budget not retaining a long time dietician after poor food grades The prior year the union also graded owner Woody Johnson and F the lowest owner rating in the league 5.58 out of 10 which according to players resulted from his perceived unwillingness to invest in facilities Players cited perceived top leadership issues with some describing issues as top-down problems Reflecting ownership concerns So Woody Johnson took all the stuff that he got made fun of for last year and he responded by By being like oh, yeah, you haven't begin to see how shitty I can get. I'm gonna make it all worse. Okay so At least he got some some notification of what he Johnson being a giant asshole out in the media anyways made memes You feel good memes you okay memes? No, wait what do Johnson just you know he's got to go he's got to die He's got it Um memes. I thought you'd be I thought you'd be glad I mean not really Nothing's gonna change, but isn't this what you wanted you wanted more people talking about this He's in the Epstein files you want people to talk about that Yeah, but nobody's talking about that we already talked about Tish National Sports Park. We gotta talk about it more People are only reported on Tish from the Giants. Yeah, and they're only reporting about food for the jets What else should they be reporting on he's in the files. Yeah, he's in them. Yeah There was one email that was like Gets just lost the dog in the laugh, but it's so clear that memes is gone through all the files He's seen every file just to look he's doing control laugh for what he Johnson I think the funny one was the the email was like jets just lost to dolphins on what he's birthday He's he's not happy right now And like that's just how the decisions get made in the jets and they're like he'll just take the food away because they lost to the dolphins Yeah And somebody's just letting I cut laying Jeff know about this. I cut it listen memes. It sucks because it's jets is your team But I I would if I was an owner of NFL team I don't know if I'd run it much differently Like I think I'd probably do it's kind of shit like that like Yeah, you know what we lost fuck you guys I should be machine closed to the day Yeah, when you put it that way they are all they do is lose You gotta take stuff away right exactly like I think I would probably do shit like that or like You know have my son decide the coaching decisions based off his Xbox season Yeah, but brick Johnson to his credit Vodka and his good water seeber Fair yeah, yeah, very good. It's a great decision. We'd like the other guys on on Aaron Rogers wish list They're pretty good to yeah, but that's Aaron Rogers that's not brick Johnson. He's whose idea was to get Aaron Rogers That's probably brick that's probably Bob will go Bob with that one will go Bob fuck you Bob. Yeah, fuck you We also have some stuff in this report from the Eagles The union highlighted that players are frustrated that meal times overlap with the organization's business staff leading to crowding and limited seats and feel they should get first class seats on team flights instead of the coaching staff What do you think about that max I kind of agree with that Why aren't I don't understand why that coaches? Guess what it's in your name you sit coach. I got a question pretty cut and dry Why why don't the team plane why don't the team owners just have Plains that are just all first class I'm not I thought that's how it went. I don't think it does. I make some sense to me though Have it be make the whole plane out of first class. Mm-hmm. You can't do that. Why not There's no way they're going three deep No, they're not going to be deep. I bitch. They all get their own rows What's the difference between that in first class? A big difference because of fucking If you put the your seat back your fucked You're still scrunched nobody would ever put their seat back in coach and no way there's like a scrunch There's no way there's a huge difference between but we're looking at this like it's like The unite united from Chicago to I think it is New York. There's no way. Yeah, I think it is There's no way. I think it depends on which which team Eagles team plan. I think if you're if you're doing well like robber craft has a nice jet Photo film real nice jet you don't feel it all vehicles utilize American Airlines As their official charter partner team travel frequently using large aircraft like Boeing's triple sevens. Yeah. Yeah, they're just using regular planes That's crazy to me. I don't understand how it NFL team does not look like a regular plane Play they're expensive. Yeah, because it's got Eagles how how much it's two it's two days all the way back Yeah, I think I could probably get you triple seven for I'm just gonna guess 55 mil Uh triple seven maybe a hundred more 50 mil that's bullshit. We got one for free from guitar pre-owned and get for 15 mil Yeah, there you go. Of course. I'm not talking like straight off the assembly line Take me down the bone yard. I'll get you on the trip the new variant is is 440 mil. Yeah, we're not getting a new make the whole plane first class of the boys Not getting a new plane for a football team those guys are just gonna chew it up. Yeah, true Okay, my my who's back is Michael Jordan because he won the Daytona 500 no big deal Okay, good job Mike and then he and then he happened to know a young Kid who is probably his friend's kid and he grabbed his shirt a few times and people are freaking out grabbing his shirt Max is sitting there watching it with his Just disgusting allegations. I mean he's putting a finger up this guy. No, he's not he is not he's grabbing his shirt max And it's probably a kiddie knows it's like you that's that's cool. No, but he Listen if you have if you have kids and you have friends who have kids you wrestle with the kids right grab any shirt You guys are being weirdos. I mean I I understand the horseplay excuse. I don't know that It seems like aggressive horseplay. He's grabbing his shirt And you don't think it matters that it's his friends kids. It's kiddie knows. Well, definitely mad If it's a complete stranger that's that's no that's like that that's got that guy's son. He's grabbing his shirt Also sure this kind of sucks for that kid that this video is now out there MJ touch what are the boys doing in here. It's way too early to be in here boys way too early to be in here Way too early to be in here But they can be in here. They want to be in here, but it's way too early. No, this is like this is so got Zach to do who's back then we got to do ads and we can do vacation talk, but you can come in This is like the worst thing to happen to this kid It's bad that that this video is everywhere like the kid that was on the nirvana album cover He says that's the worst thing that's ever happened to him in his life all the kids that hung out with Michael Jackson that they even said nothing bad happened to them All right now we're getting crazy bad parent of Michael Jackson Michael Jackson was never convicted of any this is This kid his dad is probably a billionaire. He's gonna be okay I'm just saying not a great day for that kid all things considered you would rather not have like four that video out Of you as a kid. I don't even know he's like four. Okay You max max was like hey, did you see this MJ's guys people were talking about it? And I watched it. I'm in close Pete people were talking about it. I had to be talked about What we talked about it. It's a bad look. He's grabbing his shirt. It's a bad look. He's grabbing a sh- I don't think he's actually he's grabbing his shirt. He's trying to be Wild Uncle Mike He's grabbing a shirt all right Zach Oh my my his bag of the week this week are just gonna be update for you guys uh we we talked uh We talked golden auction couple weeks ago. You guys remember that we're talking up PZ 10 Pokemon Illustrator cards We have final say that word weights you fast Oh, which We have to the golden auction oh the the PZ 10 uh there we go You get you Illustrator card. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you rest your local Paul we we just had to find the sale went down how much Uh 13 million whole whoa fuck and then you bought it for like 5.1 in 2022 then he's scammed a bunch of his fans I think those are those might be different controversies. I think those are digital scams. Okay That was a nft such a uh situation. I'm not selling ownership of this exact card Like the digital nft ownership. I believe but not the physical tangible ownership Was was Logan Paul the one with the the clip with Brady. Yeah very clever. That was the most choreographed Fakus clip ever. Yes people were like oh my god look at this They're they have a flag football game in Saudi Arabia. Yeah listen. I'm an athlete. Okay Listen, I can't believe people actually thought that was a real comment like wow Tom Brady just pressed Logan Paul Yeah All right, so he sold it for 12.5 million Yeah, I think the auction went in like over to a little bit over time for like 13 who who's buying this? That was that's my biggest question is like where do you put this like do you you buy it to then go sell it in a couple more years and think you're gonna get like 36 million Yeah, I guess I think you just buy it knowing that you can scam a lot of people with this card With like with counterfeit ones. Yeah, you can do so you can run back the same scams that oh same playbook I see what's running and now you're making money every year on the old scams. Yeah, yeah, are you a Zach or you a card collector? Uh, I'm not a card collector. I enjoy doing like the pack of rips my brothers a card collector I owe I'll like open the packs with them. I like the chase of it. We're not the collecting ask it's fine It is fun like the blind box. You're so much fun so much fun Because you just it could be anything anything literally anything you could be a Pokemon illustrator It could be the worst thing ever or generational wealth. Yeah Okay, good job. Good job. Uh, so I can just a digital scams. So not a real skim Yeah, I think a lot of it was digitally scamming not physical not hard copy scams. Okay So so it's that it's that's not a big deal and a digital and it might have been like I think it's like like blockchains scams So it's like deregulated scam got it got it. Okay. I think I still scam though. Yeah, no it doesn't make it any better We're just we're just clearing up the yeah, right? But if you say digital it's a digital pft. It's fine. Yeah, it's a digital scam Okay, let's get uh Let's let's do a couple of ads and we have james winston like I said I teased it But some news that will make everyone very happy with james winston Coming up after a couple ads before we get to james he's brought to you by neutral Guys, if your hair isn't playing like you did in your 20s It might be time for real comeback not another work around because throwing on a hat is not a strategy neutralful supports healthier hair from within. 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I'm not I'm not taping you you can if you want I'll take you you take me okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it Just take bang. Yeah, I put the sense minds minds did oh I need my I need my charger But you're still gonna record me. Okay. All right, so you're you're not gonna be on the cover. You should be on the cover I would love to be on the cover, but I don't know who's gonna be on the cover like like this year I feel like Jamir Gibbs was the most exciting player that I seen like with my with my two eyes But outside of that like I don't I'm not just gonna say hey put staffer on the cover. Yeah, because he's like in the MVP running Like like back in the day like the cover. He's actually mean something. Yeah, right? Get it. Yeah, so we got to get me I mean Drake may would probably be if he wins a soup bowl JSN JSN would be a good one. Yeah, like because he even ball a guy you know camp scatterbook. Oh my gosh That'd be a fun. No, he's definitely gonna be on the cover very soon. Yeah, all right But six games they make the cover right. It was an impactful six. I feel like it was the most fun Apple says games ever. Yeah, I want to say that I want to play with cam scatterboot as like my running back He should definitely probably get a 99 just because the energy and violence Yeah, yeah, like he is What was he like when you first met him? And you're like, oh man, this this cat's different man one thing by him and Jackson And abdual they were the most confident Kids and I say kids because they look like freaking kids. Yeah, right like did I ever met him my life right? They just walk into the NFL locker room like they're certain of themselves Cam is yelling at people already. He doesn't really care if you a Twitter your vet or if you're rookie with him You know, I would just remember him and abdual Carter about to get into a freaking fist fight Because of draft status. Yeah, right because cam thought he should be drafted higher Yeah, and abdual was he went worried by cam because he went drafted in his position. Yeah, right? So it was just it was a beautiful thing to see Seen the new wave of football with all the NIL and I and I feel like the the young athlete is being blessed So many early opportunities But to have three rookies that were are very good come in and be obsessed with football I was I was taking away about it. Yeah, and listen I I'm not joking when I say you should be on the cover and I think you know exactly the moment you should be on the cover The touchdown against the lions which was I wish I we got to find the clip in the gambling cave because we were losing our minds Can you walk us through that play and like it was the best touchdown of the year? I'm gonna say right now Yes, it was the best play of the year NFL honors you should definitely Not as that but anyways, I just when the play was called I looked over to the sideline. I was like I've been waiting for this moment Right, so we called a double reverse pass and I see the The linebacker he has his eyes on me. So he's playing really good like he's having great eye discipline, but as I Get behind him like I throw my hand up because I'm like gunner like the ball should have been up by now Not knowing that he's extending the play back there. He throws ball up one thing about a quarterback position You give your receiver a chance. Yes. Yep. Yes, right of receiver has never called a ball that's out of bounds And we don't have a chance. So he gave me a chance I came back to the ball. I turned around. I gave him a little doo. You know, I'm saying there low one two I put him in the dirt and I finished In a row. Yeah, you're ready for that. I was upset because the camera the camera cut away from your your celebration too soon on that one Yeah, I mean it was um it was something that was premeditated I knew I was gonna do that celebration I practiced that celebration in the dinner room the night before I got confirmation from my Detroit brothers Devin Funches and Nick Jones that I could do this celebration because it was really a detroit dance Yeah, no town the the boss up the boss the walk was Motown. Yeah, I'm saying Morgan. I'm a soul train line But the dance was called the boss up. So I was bossing up on the Detroit lines It's great. It's a beautiful moment. We love that and then afterwards you like I'll play tight end if you want me to yeah I'll line up a tight. I think a lot of guys would say that I think you actually would line up a tight end man I have clips training running routes Like this is not something that I'm just talking about yeah, I'm obsessed with this game I love what I do and if I had to play tight in I would but I like playing quarterback Yeah, well, we need you to we need you to get back that out there on the field Who knows what the next couple months is gonna bring? I think that a lot of people are talking about you as potentially being a free agent again Have you thought about that? Have you thought about what you're what you would ideally like to do next year? Yeah, start that's that's ideally, but uh, I'm locked in with the giants for one more year Uh, under contract. So that's exciting to go into a year primarily for family, right? Like my wife my kids understand it. They're like the had to get to at least compete at a place that we're at Right because I think one of the most challenging things about for any athlete That that family is important to them is like the moving and the uncertainty of west next I wonder I'm certain about his my abilities But I am excited to be back with the New York football giants and Sir that organization to my very best. Have you have you talked to coach Arba? Yeah, he's the man I spent he's he's elite man. Yeah, like in the weight room at five o'clock in the morning with yoga pants on Like lifting lifting heavy and I and I asked him not not really He said they were yoga pants. They look like slacks. Yeah, like she knows Like why are you working on it? She knows You know, they're yoga pants He's a good and he's a good culture builder. It feels like things, you know, we're gonna start turning the right direction Well, he is he is certain about his approach like every like one of my best friends The past game coordinated for the cleaning browns Danny Breyer will always rave about like his intent in the meetings He always had intent with what he was saying he wasn't just coming from love field It's trying to speak to the to the teammates. It's not a real raw raw guy Everything he did was calculated and intentional and that's what we need Yeah, football giants. I like I like it when you say football giants I feel like we need to bring that back more like Chris Burman he's always reminds their new york football giants Yeah, put some stank on it. How do you like living in New York? I live in Jersey But I love being able to wake up and we got to we ride on the Hudson River. You got the city behind us So some yards like it is It is unbelievable like me and my wife say like it don't get old. Yeah, every like even with the snow coming down Like ice hills powered like 20 feet in the freaking air like chronic. I mean my son like freaking I would climb in mount Everest to get to the top of this freaking ice hill and then I get into the facility and one of the local Uh, well, I think I video guy calm. He asked me like did you take any trash can leaves off? What am I gonna do with the trash can leaves like you go sledding you take your kids at yeah I feel like I feel like a failure because I didn't know about trash can We can't know until my kid is sledding. Yeah, so when the opportunity business is seven next time I'm gonna be pushing my kids down at the hill. Yeah, there you go Yeah, but no, I just think the city I've always wanted to be a part of something that's more right and when New York Provides the athlete and really anybody that's there right because it's probably the most diverse place in the world It's like you really see the American dream when you able to look at that skyline and you see like man One of the funniest things I ever seen like I'm I'm going to my first Yankees game ever Right, we're standing Harlem right at the Renaissance hotel and like I'm trying to do it right way because I'm like Hey, we could stand in Harlem, Renaissance, you know, we don't take the subway to the Bronx right and watch the Yankees play my first game ever Man as we walk on the street we walked to like a little deli down the street. I see like this Latino baby like six years old on the phone walking You know full conversation. I got I got my For you at the time whose taller than this six year old is walking on the phone in the stroller because he's sleep Right, and I'm just like this is New York. Yeah, this is the American dream. Yeah, this six year old Latina kid is already having Fortune 500 business calls on his track phone Like in the streets of Harlem. Yeah, you know, I'm saying is like how a Apollo theater is right there. And I see this look This little Latino kid like on the phone. Yeah, I'm just like good. That is iconic. Yeah, yeah It is true New York has got like just characters and everything everywhere you also it is a city of opportunity you had What I would say is the greatest opportunity ever in that you got to have dinner with the Rizzler So tell us all about the dinner with the Rizzler man. It was the the greatest Greatest rated G dinner that I ever had in my life. Was there a moment where you're like I'm having dinner with a 70 year old I don't even know how old the Rizzler is Okay, he's not The moment was when I when I saw him right because the Rizz has this aura about him We're like everyone knows who the Rizz is right? So as we're walking into the restaurant Like I'm getting my coach checked and everything and like you can see the host is like she's laughing like because she knows who the Rizz I'm like, hey, can I get my my coach check this freezing out here and you laughing at this little kid right here So we're walking up to the restaurant and like everybody wants to shake this guy's hand and like he's a little kid So he's like he knows how to handle himself around adults. But his presence is so grand Like I'm just like I'm seeing having dinner with him. We talking about caviar. I'm just like have you ever had caviar before He's like, no, I never had it now. I was like, well, you know, it's it's fish eggs, right? Like we talking about sushi I was like, do you like sushi? You know, I'm saying he's like I like sushi So he had this meal where he tried the the Japanese ona Right and only it's a quiet taste. Yeah, you know, I'm saying like it looks like yellow paste But you got to know what you're eating. So he's like, yeah, I love only I said, do you know what only is Rizz? He's like, yeah, of course, and you see those chubby cheeks Just looking like I'm like him he might know because I don't know where his palate takes him Yeah, but we said I have a conversation the only comes out And he's like I love this I'm just like, do you really love this? He ate one bite and he ate the risotto. He didn't eat doni So I'm just like you you got me wasting money on a meal like so that's when I realized okay, I am with a kid But the unique thing was like my seven-year-old was right next my seven-year-old in five-year-old they were sharing jokes back and forth. Yeah, they got to be big riser fans. It was unbelievable. Yeah Did he at least reach for the check at the end of the meal? They pretend like I got it I would not let him do that. Yeah, you know, I'm saying like it's no way. I'm gonna let a nine-year-old reach over me. I got it I might have more money than all of us he might he could that's definitely on the table But I do like I was very grateful to me his his pop Yeah, because in this world like when you have kids who work as hard as him Like in terms of have the fame you see their parents pushing them and like everything and they're trying to create all these moments But his dad Brian was so chill such a vibe like he was sharing like the moments that they actually have at home Like he was he was geeking out because you know, he was from Staten Island and like his His his love for the Giants man like it was really cool just to see the child come out of his father Right and to see that connection that they had yeah, the the most star struck you bent into New York Had to be had to be big time business dinner. It was Unbelievable. Yeah, like because like I'm like send next to this icon and like he's a quarter of the age I am Right, so I'm just like what did I do wrong? Yeah, not to be able to be like this kid Yeah, I was on my grind when I was nine like yeah, yeah, I'm working like yeah The 401k for that if you if he's put in stuff way every year Like he's gonna be a billionaire by the time he's like 40 years old. Bro. Have you seen his crib episode? I know I haven't seen that one bro like he's freaking I think he's like seven in a video and he has like stuff in there I'm just like what like who has this type of stuff? Yeah, like how's this kid? Yeah, these iconic pieces. Yeah, I got an idea. I want to throw it you Because we're gonna need your consent to be able to pull off this idea But it's a long-running idea on our show when we get into a football season There's always a bunch of injuries that happen in the quarterback position. It sucks. It's part of the game But then we get to like week 10 and there's a Monday night game and it's a backup quarterback And it's like all right We don't really want to watch this guy and we've always said that James Winston should just be like all-time quarterback for any prime time game that doesn't have a good matchup Do you think you can pull that off? We like hey Monday. It's like hey, James. You got to go to Arizona We're gonna need you there play Monday night football against the Cowboys. We need some James. Could you do that? Oh? Jacobi played excellent. He did yeah, but yes, okay Good to playing in Every yeah, literally I feel like we can play yeah, I get to get on the field. Yes, I'm yep Yes, because it's like we there are those bummer games to stand alone games later in the season It's like you know what this game needs it needs more james. Thank you. Yeah, I really appreciate it It was you and Joe Flacco. We just have James and Joe Flacco Just going around the country wherever you need to go so that we can watch some fun football They would be electric because you always give like the thing with you is that And I love watching you play especially this part of your career where it's like you know Maybe you're not a starter every year, but when you get in you always give your guys a chance And you're always going to actually like throw the ball down feel because what happens a lot with backup quarterbacks that get in it's a you know a lot of like five yard passes trying to be safe You're giving your guys a shot every single play. Yeah. Well, that's the NFL receivers. They deserve a chance Right, right like we're not playing fearless But this was this was fun. It was very unique because of the dynamic that we had and I quarterback one with yeah Having a super bowl winning champion having a first round pick and having myself who threw for gazillion yards So uh starring off with Russ being a starter man. I'm literally I'm just like I just remember the day like the back of my hand where I'm excited like just sound the new yoke for bargimes two weeks later I see Russ big smile And like what's Russ? I don't know they're gonna draft the young kid like now I gotta I gotta go through him and then Trying to come gets uh gets here Dave's gives him the position and to see how Russ and Jackson were like just being nurtured in this in the system I'm just like man like me and Tommy DeVito who's with the Patriot now I'm just like man like am I gonna get enough reps like because one he's learned Russ is learning all offense Jackson is a young rookie So he's learning all offense. So it's not a rep so everybody and right camp. So it really was a very unique experience for me competing right like I remember reading Tom Brady's Kind of novel with his His sports psychiatrist in Michigan where Tom was talking about his opportunity at Michigan as the backup How like every practice rep He was playing a game rep because he didn't know when was gonna be his next opportunity and eventually he ended up overtaking the star in position next year starting to lean them to win Rose Bowl right so I was Had to had to like kind of get into that mode where like man every freaking rep that I have Like I don't care if I'm throwing a ball to gun it all chef shiggy or some undrived rookie from you know The open like a mountains man. We're gonna make some happen and we're gonna create excitement and And guys are gonna want to love playing football when I'm out there on that food. Yeah, and we still do every time He get out there. It's it is exciting to watch I hope that you get another chance to start. I think that you had you know I know that you definitely have the belief in yourself And I got the belief in you and big cat has a belief in you that you can do it again Do you have you got the sense from other gms that there could be an opportunity or would it have to be right back up? I think this this role with The the dream that Sam Donald is selling yeah with being Connected with the right minds and being in the good system and being able to take advantage of his opportunity And showing it over and over again, right? I think that is helping so many of the quarterbacks that you know Get deemed journeyman, right? Like it's really just making the most of your opportunity when it's presented you saw this year with a Was his name mag zones, right? He got hit he got shot shot to spin He went out there and he did what was required. Yeah, so so I know it's gonna like it's gonna come around again You know like buses 15 minutes, you know, it's gonna come around and I'll make the most of it. How many more years do you think you can play? I would love to play 12 years, right? And that's just 12 more years or 12 more years 12 more years. I'm gonna be on 12 this year. Yeah, you're gonna play 24 years Yes, I would love I love that. Oh my god, that's the great I was so nervous asking that question you're gonna be like I got three more you know you got 12 more years We're halfway in terms of my arm like it's just I'm I'm blessed like I'm really grateful That guy gave me this arm and in his mind, right? So like I'm growing every is constant growth, right? And just the fun of being able to Increase the people that's around you, right? And that's why the tough thing of This year in terms of our team was like man going to training camp like I had a feeling like this was gonna be a great squad Like just the tenacity of our defense right how offense with Malik neighbors and young camp scataboo Tyrone Tracy doing this thing. We have a elite officer line great old line coach Mike Kafka had to hand calling plate like I knew it was gonna be good But if it was those fourth quarters man, there's four quarters where we didn't finish. I signed me up for 12 more years Yeah, thanks. We're just scratching Start the petition now. Yes, there's 12 more years. We can say this is the end of act one Yeah, yeah, we're just a halftime. It is yeah, we are so we got you got any adjustments that you're making a halftime The biggest adjustments is just more more TV, you know I'm saying I'm probably gonna have a few Broadway appearances I'm gonna have a rap album out It's depends some Christmas carols On team up with some AI Frank Sinatra just to get the brand up You know get back to Jamison second this episode is brought to you by McDonald's hot honey sauce hot honey sauce is that McDonald's for limited time Your favorite orders just got better with hot honey sauce Try the hot honey snack wrap. It'll beat what you thought was your fave I'm telling you for breakfast. You know what I like to do. I like to get a sausage egg and cheese biscuit And put that hot honey sauce on there makes it pop sets it off the new hot honey sauce Now a McDonald's for a limited time only check out the hot honey sauce Sam McDonald's we love it try the hot honey snack wrap. It is delicious All right now more James Winston I I I loved watching you and Russ on the sidelines this year when Jackson was playing I couldn't figure out which one of the two of you was more excited to be like Right on the sidelines ready to help somebody up ready to you know support a teammate that ran out of bounds for something It seems like the two of you had a pretty good connection in terms like we both understand what our role is right now Like what was it? What was that like with Russ? Because I imagine it wasn't easy for him. Yeah to get benched like that Yeah, what what Russ it was uh, it was very challenging with him and and I like balancing Helping Jackson state prepared and keeping a Future Hall of Famer Superbowl when the champ uplifted every single day I felt like it was a blessing in the skies man because I was ever sure Russ You've never been in this position before you never been in position where you know You felt like you didn't play like you wanted to and you got benched and the young quarterback is coming in and he's playing good She's bringing the sightment so like I'm here for that because I've seen that happen right I've been injured and I've been having to watch freaking Andy don't lead to him with the new orange saints like I've seen it Right, I've had to get have his back and support him because It's always about the team and I think Russ's mentality of his leadership paid off tremendously because he known the importance of The team right and as a quarterback We know with the only person out there. So it's tough. It's tough to swallow that pride when you know that you're capable And you're able to to steal spin and Russ can steal play Don't know give me wrong, but he grew more this year Because he had to be in that humble state than he did overall to all the places like because I you know Denver like it was it was bad. It was bad out there in Denver right Pitchburg he led him to the playoffs, you know, it was it was okay, right? Like he but he stepped back on the scene But this year was supposed to be like he won this first Super Bowl in New York like he's supposed to be back, right? But uh god challenged him in a way that he's never been he's probably been challenged before because people died of him coming out of freaking college Yeah, right? So it I think it is igniting something within him to allow him to have the greatest comeback of his life And I'm praying. I hope that he has that but I just command his leadership in his Consistency of continuing to point to Jackson continuing to stay Like relevant and active man Russ was buying team dinner every Thursday Every Thursday he picking up the tab he he bringing in from Lunello's Feeding the whole the whole building right like so nothing nothing Fell off like he stayed consistent and he was a great teammate Yeah, and you're a great teammate and any any GM that's listening This is like if this is how James acts when he's a third string quarterback and cares about his teammates in this way Imagine the james you're gonna get if he's your starter. Yeah, like actually it's probably going with the same guy I don't think that that would change anything But it does show because a lot of guys if they're in that role They would just kind of you know check out a little bit and worry about their future And and you were dedicated to all the guys on your team and can we just were can we refresh people on The time that you were starting in New Orleans. Yeah, the season that you were putting up Numbers you were putting up. Can you just I don't know if you know those off the top of your head But can you describe how you sell in the league and touchdowns? Yeah, and I would lean the league and touchdown Interception ratio, which everyone gives me a hiccup out. Yeah, until this day. Yep, right and we were five and two five and two Right, so we were we were on a open up, you know, but things happen and then but the stuff that you played through Yeah, I don't think people know no bro back Right a rupture preventing your longest right people don't even know what it is Yeah, I don't know why they put it down That's a most of their runs right down the side of your cab that wraps around in the touch to your big toe Right, so like in quarterbacks notice like you do whatever and I saw Drew breeze do this the year before right yeah like He did everything he could not to come off that field right he wrote in his his book in his memoir About how Doug Flutey his relationship with Doug Flutey like if Doug Flute was hurt He'll never come up to field because like man, I I can't come off this field because The backup quarterback come in and freaking take my job, right? So just learning that Understanding that man. I got a freaking broke back Like my plant leg. I can't freaking move and then I had to fly to freaking London Yeah, on a nine hour flight. Yeah, what a freaking bone stimulator wrapped around my back and try to play What's a bone stimulator? It's like a it's like a pmf Machine that they give you did you know I got what we bought those pads the the pmf is like Hello, did you wrap those work to try to heal try to heal your bone? I think I mean, I don't know okay In pain though, he bought them because he's too about it for his offensive lineman And we were just like maybe they'll work him no, no, this was different like this was like a bone So like okay, it looked like you know how like a It looked like a back brace okay, imagine me sending my version mobile Little slot like I hope my bones are improving right now. Yeah, version airlines get these bones better Did you do you as a backup? Do you this year? Do you buy your offensive lineman a gift? Yes, but you get them So I had like a I had a moment of gratitude For a for office lineman because I got like this chrome hearts hat Right in the plan was I know a young guy was gonna get hat because none of the OG's office lineman didn't like That they don't care about a 12 hundred the $1, $1,200 hat. Yeah, right? So one of our young rookies had got the hat And my main thing was like are you grateful? Are you grateful for this hat hat confidus head? Right like in like everybody's walking around with freaking projectors Prada bags cardio shades. He's walking around with a chrome hearts hat Right, and he's looking at me like James you got me this how I can even with his hat Jackson trying to try to hat on He's like man, I hope I can get it. You can have my give right so that's cool those Jackson, but I end up giving him a nice Louis bag with some Louis shades, but all my office lineman Got stakes like snake reforms always look out for me man when it comes to stakes like I got I got to get them No punters. I got to get them some meat man. I got a feed. I got a feed my whole life Yeah, definitely definitely what's uh, what's what's going on Florida state? Yeah, other than the is the fix the simple is just having your brother Right there. Yes, them having a Winston on the roster is definitely gonna be yeah huge, but I'll tell you with this new wave of football athletes are more privileged than we were in the past so being able to recruit athlete that really loves football and Also their family won't stir child to be a football player besides a millionaire or entrepreneur or whatever right without his money coming in. I think that's very important So the challenge is not really the kids is the parents and the guardians to keep them focused on why they're even getting This blessing of money, but in terms of the four-sate man I believe they're they're headed on the right track I went down for my brother's official visit Spend some time just saw how they were doing anything we just like for us a jazz got Their own football facility. That's crazy October 2025 One of the most iconic football programs was working out in the gym I was working in gym with the swimmers bro. That's right. They're in there early, right? Like I'm doing a set and then the swimming girls They're doing the set by in the gym in the same gym. Yeah, and I go to four to state I'm sharing you know and look. I know sorry guys. I don't spoil right because HBC used on out nothing I'm gonna train her but anyways. I'm sharing treatment tables with the tennis team I'm just like look man. Okay look. I know like your injury is just important as our injury But it's football season. Yeah, and also football is I mean, it's the main money driver It is yeah, right? And it was just it was tough being on the baseball baseball We had a weight room everything accessible to us right on the baseball team but football like we're sharing things like You know, and I love the fact that dope Campbell is connected to the hospitality Like the school of hospitality at Florida State, right? So you see so many different faces coming in It's connected to the test and center and everything so there's a lot of people in there But I we like yeah student athletes, but we come in there to play football right right and if you come in there to play football I how can you attract these top players when they're walking in the facility and you don't even have something that cators to them And they go to other places and they see as a slide in a barber shop So so we overcame that hump in terms of the the eye factor But in terms of our head coach in terms of our program I still believe Florida State has that traditional Progant program, but however We have to put behind the pass with the with the championship that we had whether that season that they left us out of the playoffs We have to put that behind us and find a way to move forward and start winning football games because that's all that matters Yeah, are you are you talking to your brother a lot? Are you like advising him or is he like I want to do my own thing I want to be my own man. So his entire high school career, right middle school I wanted him to have the same experience that I had with my dad right Just one-on-one coach and growing not having multiple voices in his ear But when he Signed with Florida State I had to be there. I had to be there in his fish of his I had to be there like with his official signing Because now I feel like I'm passing the torch to him and I I cannot not be there for him Right when I know I honestly is res are very new, but I know the ends of now so the campus and I have like we finally have a similarity in terms of like Yeah, we love football, but now he's at that age where his recept his receptiveness to another voice because my dad is elite Like I'm blessed we blessed to have our dad and our life, but his receptiveness to me now at this age Is way more receptive than when he was when he was younger because like he just like man My brother in the lead like I'm trying to get there. I'm put my head down. I'm working my butter, right? My dad it he created one of them. So he created me, right? So I'm gonna have this opportunity So I'm excited to to even have a deeper relationship with him, right? Because talking to him about going for the state man It had me in tears, right because I'm just like me Jopie like I was a part of building this right and now you gonna go and And you're going in for you. You're not going there for me. All right, you're not getting a scholarship because I did this stuff You know getting a scholarship because you earned this right? So don't go out there and try to separate yourself from For me go and beat the best Winston that you possibly be and keep doing what God gave you and your talents Mm-hmm, and I you know the lots changed since he went to school there. Yeah, some of this stuff is not Against the rules anymore now that he's there. So he won't run any of those problems Now he won't he gonna get smushiships. Yeah, that's the difference like he's gonna get paid but you know like I feel like it is like it's a saying in a Bible about like Everything is permissible. Yeah, but not everything gets beneficial Right, right. So like yes all these partnerships and stuff like it's yeah, you can do it right is there is out It's everyone can get it But like you have still have to be looking for the strategic beneficial partnerships. Yeah, right that you can get and that's what he looking for So he probably won't have no crab legs sponsorship in his but you can talk with me because I got some crab leg QR codes I love that fish market That is one of those like we I'm gonna put air quotes on scandals. Yeah It's that in the Ohio State like free tattoos stuff that we look back on we're like we're We're just so stupid as a society for treating those like they were the biggest issues that we had for young football players come up to the college system Man, I feel like the scrutiny that amateur athletes, right? These are we were high school players, right? The scrutiny that that we get is huge because of the platform that we have in terms of everyone's watching us You see you saw the excitement with freaking Indiana winning the college football national championship issue Just a sightman of Miami being able to play in their home Feel so those viewers obviously bring a lot of eyes, but in the days these are still amateur athletes like these these kids These are kids like I was a kid in college like all of us like the people The people that's on Twitter that's tweeting like this guy sucks. He's a bad person. You're talking about a kid Yeah, right? So like I always encourage Especially men right to have a point of view of like how are you when you were 18 years old? Yeah big time Mm-hmm. I was an idiot. I was like listen. Yeah more on yeah, yeah Still more on and then the height of The social media wave of cameras been like I remember remember boy Joe man We used to walk into Coliseum and I promised you it was just like we were at a freaking glow party Everybody had they phone out lying us up recording like as I'm walking through like like I remember like my walk-out zone for a Baseball was I'd be feeling like the man when I walk through right so like and I felt like the man when I was walking through like Everybody got they phone out like light me up I'm just like man like can I just not come in party? Yeah in peace, right? You know you can't we had to start having house parties man Yeah, it was not it was definitely fun. Yeah, is there anybody that's that's playing college ball right now that you watching you say I maybe it doesn't remind you of you But the way that we watch you play we get excited. Yeah, is there a player that you watch and you're like I love watching that cap I did enjoy watching a Fernando Mendoza compete this year because I was looking I was like man like because I know for say like we beat Kyle last year and he was quarterback I was like man like this kid continues to show up everything a week, right? And how's he doing it with Indiana because I'm still like in my mind I'm just like this is still Indiana like when they beat Ohio State yeah, I was like this took a long time for people I and the Rose Bowl was like I I was like Indiana is gonna kill Alabama But a lot of people were like it's Alabama's Indiana. It's gonna be Alabama Indiana look like Alabama. Yes Yeah, they they absolutely dominated they didn't have how you on the side of it you if you were watching That those teams you like oh that's Alabama and that's Indiana. Yeah, like and that's that's just the program that Coach Cognetti has developed and the players have bought in and we look at Indiana those players look like they love football Yeah, all of them are 23 years old with big old beards and they are there for football Yeah, by the way, I found I found the clip. Let's watch it I hope we don't say anything stupid in this, but this is you scoring the touchdown This is us every Sunday just sitting there That play was epic Yeah, that was how we were reacting in the game. Yeah, we love you. We love watching you on Sundays Yeah, man, it's like the I mean there wasn't a Giants fan in that cave and we all were just like you had I think we might have put you on main TV for that one. Yeah, the funny thing about that game like so Behind me like you can hear the fans heckling right like hey, James throws one throws one. I know it's coming And my after that play Even the lion's fans they were like good job, James But you to get the opposing team yeah to stop Hayden. Yeah enjoying you. Yeah, that was exciting It's good football if you heard all the different voices that room that were all yelling james I kind of like six or seven different guys that heard we all root for different teams when we're watching football on Sundays We're all yelling at each other. It's like the most combative viewing experience that you could have and you brought that room together Yeah, to all cheer for you because that's how much we care for you And you need to be it we need to see James starting in the NFL And I absolutely I guarantee you that if we had like if that clip was like 20 minutes long 20 minutes later There was probably just stray like oh james that was so sick Can I remember that james skill saying yeah over and over man that was out kind of I'm gonna give I'm gonna give a fans memories I'm gonna give everybody memories when I'm out down there feel But the memory that I learned is to be that superbow winning quarterback I love it. All right. I got one last question rowback rowback.com Which by the way, you're yeah, we were in a ad together. Yeah rowback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase QZips polos hoodies jogger shorts rowback.com promo code take I assume you should be a 99 in Madden, but who who do you think who's the let's say let's go from this a defensive player That's giving you fits that you're like that guy should be 99 well from watching man. Will will Anderson had yeah amazing year Defeats of in he he did an incredible job Chris Gonzalez man, he was locked down This year like nobody was catching like when you watch the LC championship game You like oh my goodness like they catching a ball on them and then I know where he gets that pick at the end of the end of the game He like see like can't about to mess with him. Yeah One person that a lot of people not going talk about but I feel like he's like low key one of the best defensive players In the league is the one with the spoon. Yep spoon is He is the heart and soul of that Seattle Seahawks defense like he is coordinating everything back there He doesn't miss tackles. He makes plays on the ball like he is a true football player Out there man and he definitely deserves a 99 on defense. Do you have any rules? I know that sometimes quarterback. So like I'm not throwing it at spoon. I'm not gonna challenge him. Is there anybody It's ever made you say I'm taking a while. I'm not gonna look that way. Hell no. That's not ever in my life. Yeah Never yeah, a good throw beats great coverage right it does But I feel like it's that's a competitive side like obviously as you're planning for week you're looking at who we're gonna be attacking For the majority of the game But when when that time comes you have to be your best against their best like that's football Yeah, like so I ain't ain't ducking no right dog. Yeah, I ain't running away from no one's like a challenge Yeah, spoons good, but what if I beat him? I'm gonna attack him. Yeah, I ain't get them on his heels. Yeah All right, well James always awesome to have you on where we remain your biggest fans Can't wait for you to get in the shot at starting and soup bowl I mean listen, I'll say this When you do get to the Super Bowl as a starting quarterback you have to come on the show that week if that's okay No, we would do a zone call because I'm gonna be oh y'all can come to the No, we'll be at the Super Bowl. We'll come wherever you want come to the hotel. Yeah, no problem. No problem You want you locked in yeah, but we'll we just we needed we did Super Bowl week James. Yeah, we'll get anything Okay, yeah, yeah, maybe maybe some seats No, yeah, get anything okay, okay, so I'm Jersey afterwards party after Super Bowl Not my side. What's we make another one? Okay, that one's going After okay, yeah, that's good. Yeah, y'all are in okay, okay done done. James should the best man. 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Yeah, just panicking It's so like that's a guy who's we've all been on That side of it leaning into it. I don't know man We've all been on that side of it where the internet's coming for you and you're just kind of pacing around looking at your phone You know you think he's leaning into it or you think I he looks pretty concerned when he's Like he had his phone out on the court when guys are like taking warm ups. He's just he's just scrolling That's Katie is what would he be doing fully into that life just I don't know refreshing everyone talking about it getting Texas like from people this is a big part of yeah, this one look at that Maybe he's just saw he's just walking around on his phone. Hey look at that The guys are shooting around Yeah, that's what that's what leaning into it. Yeah, like yeah, yes, he knows that he's gonna listen There's no look his face doesn't look like he's leaning into it, but yeah, no relax No relax when I went Twitter. He did he did go after shams the other night for being on his phone during the game Yeah, and he was on it all night tonight Kevin Durant is never going to log off and it's a It's a fool's errand to try to even get him to try so just let the man cook like I said Hank He might be there's a chance. He's got a he's on his third burner roasting Kevin Durant's second burner as a burner He's like these there's free jokes to get off Okay, let's wrap up the show. How's everyone's vacation Hank you want to start? Yeah, I will start uh it was awesome. I was I was on a golf trip It's seven seven of my my childhood friends has them known for 20 years uh I showed up on empty from the Super Bowl week How to blast got to play golf. I saw our friend Ricky Elliott Yes, played around golf with him one of those I mean he's just he's the best one of the most enjoyable rounds golf have played Played some sick courses had a great time lost my voice There's a great time. Yeah, excellent nice weather So you you basically you went San Francisco straight to Orlando. You're you're cooked Yeah, it's home for like I got home in 11 30 My left the next morning. I like 10 you get sunburned your cook you look 10 Yeah, you need to sleep. I was I was putting on some some some some when you get back today Seven seven pm tonight Damn, you're cooked. Thanks in big time. I need a vacation for my vacation. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no I just need one good night of sleep, but I'll be good. Yeah, yeah, you'll be fine. I'll be in the road back Yeah, your voice would be good by Tuesday. Well my friends like they have Monday off and they're like oh, yeah, like Get home tonight and recover and then we have tomorrow after recover. Take tomorrow. Mm-hmm Take a personal day Hank is weather like tomorrow. It's beautiful like 60 degrees 60 here in Chicago. Oh, beautiful I will not be golfing tomorrow PFT. I was your vacation my vacation was great. Thank you for asking. I had a blast I got some nice sun. I saw a bunch of whales nice like whales jumping out of the water and shit Just real relax. I basically woke up every morning Started drinking beers and margaritas at about 10 a.m. And then Sapp by pool or by a beach and then went back to sleep and then I had to go and fuck it all up maybe the most relaxing vacation ever On on Friday I just decided after breakfast and I've been thinking about I brought her up to you one time big cat a couple of months ago um, I just quit pouches quit decided fuck nicking more loutches I'm out on nicotine pouches. I'm out on all nicotine Because I was in that zone where I was like feeling my pockets all the time Like I couldn't go anywhere without knowing that I had some on me I just said you know what fucking I'm just I'm just not gonna have another one after my lunch today And then I just kind of rode that and so now I'm like What would that be like two days? Mm-hmm. Yeah about two full days two and a half days off It's not easy I'm gonna be more in on lucis to make up for you have have enough for me Yeah, yeah, I have enough for me. So my my resolution is that I'm just gonna smoke cigarettes. That's it. Okay. You've done this Million no the vape to cigarette. I did that one time. Okay. That's how I quit vaping I quit vaping Recording the play clock right now. I did it one time more and I can tell you exactly when it was I quit vaping by smoking cigarettes Now I'm quitting all nicotine by only smoke the only time I'm allowed to have nicotine is if I'm smoking an actual cigarette you quit dip to to vaping Vaped to cigarettes. I'll give you the entire how it worked out. I quit dip To vape yeah I quit vape by smoking cigarettes right I quit smoking cigarettes by nicotine pouches right and then I stayed on nicotine pouches got it and now I just Non-stop. I usually fall asleep with one end got it some like I'm out. I'm just gonna go cold turkey Listen for the cigarette. So I'm going cold turkey. I haven't smoked cigarette yet But I'm saying it's coming. I will smoke a cigarette and that will be my my release But right now. I'm definitely I'm the throes of nicotine withdrawal Which you want to see some scary shit you look it up online and you're like People are telling me it's gonna last for three four weeks Nah all this stuff you're fine. I'm just fine. I'm just fine We'll be smoking cigarettes. I haven't smoked cigarette yet I'm I'm telling you I'm allowed to smoke a cigarette if I want one Got it, but I don't want one or eight. I know I can't fake okay. Can't fake Can't dip none of that But you know an occasional marble red from time to time. It's not gonna kill anybody. No Yeah, it's it is like the headache Jaw ache portion right now It's not easy. Ha you'll get through you're built different you're built different. How's the boot doing? How's everyone's vacation Um, mine what I'd one day of vacation. Yeah, cuz you went to get ready for your wedding Yeah, I just did wedding planning. I was there for like four days and I think I did three days of wedding planning and then One day that I really I really did vacation well the one day I got though, so that was nice by the way max. We make sure feel a little bit better. I have uh, I've secured multiple pieces of your bachelor party And it's gonna be we're gonna do a PMT max bachelor party in Vegas I've gotten the sweet in the rooms and a suite at the sphere It's gonna be sick. I'm I'm excited. I'm gonna get some golf t-times It's gonna be fun max. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm excited. I'm excited for the boys Bosco The crew is so funny right now is I've I've over invited knowing that people will say no I think I just threw it in v- I just threw it in v- to kiddo when I saw him last week He's like I'm in. I was like great Um, I think I think I think I have my exact words were To kiddo I was like just bring all the boys Like McAfry's you shit He's like yeah, I'm in uh The invites right now a recillo Gerry O'Connell Rico Bosco Ron I think Gerry O'Connell and Ron are your strongest yeses. I think Gerry O'Connell is my strongest. Gerry O'Connell already said that he was clearing his whole Yes, Gerry O'Connell Ron out of non-barcel employees Gerry O'Connell will be the only one. Gerry O'Connell will probably like Get there a day early, but you're telling me that Gerry O'Connell who's not allowed to watch like a full game of football It's gonna take oh he's gonna multiple days. Oh he's gonna hold me. I hope so I hope you're right. Oh You're calling him out. I'm really gonna come to this office for the Championship like last week of passing football. He had to go to South Africa He left some bullshit or his wife left some bullshit Why you're going out of right? Yeah, what's this? I like this What he did he had a tweet. He tweeted me every day He had a tootsie tweet. He had a tootsie tweet. I missed Jerry so much. You guys act like he doesn't Yeah, no, you're right. He antagonizes Patriots went toe-to-toe with Seahawks and loss Tiff went toe-to-toe To toe-toe and Hennie's finally won. Thank you for showing the tootsie's Tiffany All right, so he's not gonna make it. No Zach was you you have a good vacation? I did a ton of quality time with the family. Beers with the boys is a good time. Hell yes Yeah, I did I'd sit no alarm I drank all day and then I had four straight days of ice cream Sundays. Oh, you got to do I do vacation gelato It's like every night you got to do gelato before bed. I did side the last night I was on a Sunday streak and they didn't have it on the menu and I asked him I was like can you do anything for me? He's like I got you I was talking to PFT I was like I actually ate pretty well like when you're out in Ireland. You just have a ton of fish and like You go to nice restaurants and you just eat healthy things Then he was like how many peanut colladas that you have and I was like well, yeah Yeah, it's like I I had ceviche for lunch I had like nice yogurt parfait for breakfast Yeah, and then I didn't really eat so much of dinner because I'd been out in the sun drinking old day and Only had you know like a small steak, but then you think back. Oh, yeah I went beer margarita beer margarita beer margarita for about 11 hours today. Yeah Yeah, I also listen it worth it I also almost ended up in Cayman Island jail, which would have been awesome for the pot awesome Going into the Cayman Islands. I think I got I think I got Can you get racially profiled for me to chill ass dude? Because I think that's what happened to me. Yeah, I get that in the reports a lot. Yeah The guy going through customs just went deep into my bag and I had the double whammy of Him first asking he was like do you smoke weed and I was like yeah Like what I'm not a loser dude, and then he's like it's very illegal in the Cayman Islands And then he asked me what I do when I was like podcaster and it at that moment it clicked in my head I was like I could be in some deep shit right here. Yeah, that combo is not good Yeah, you don't want to say podcaster to a foreign agent Understand or respect the profession. No, he went getting the deep the deep into the bag search is scary Just because you're like I don't even know what like it's a bet You know when you have a backpack that you just carry around You don't know what's actually in it half the time. Yeah, I had one of those moments like I don't know what's in this like Well, it's just find out together dude I found a couple gummies in my backpack But no one no one searches your shit for bringing stuff into Mexico. Yeah, I was fine What I did when I searched your shit going into Cayman Islands I had no idea when I held up my pill bottle that had maybe some gummies in it And if you'd opened it I could have been in jail, which would have been a hilarious story when I went to guitar I bought new luggage before that trip just for that exact reason. Yeah, because I was like that's that seems like a country where You might just die in jail. Yeah, if you get caught So I've carried a lot of stuff on my bags over the over the years. So let's just let's take a clean one Yeah, it did feel like entrapment though for him to be like do you smoke weed and I was like yeah, dude Of course I do he's like do you know it's very illegal? Fuck That was that was not fair. Did you know it's actually not that cool? Yeah, what the hell? Does like imagine if I said no and then he laughed in my face was like you don't smoke at all Loser you're looking for the Cayman Islands underneath Cuba. Yeah, I had no idea where it was either I was sitting in the front seat of the they drive on the wrong side of the road always fuck you up when you sit in the front seat They got to find Cuba first Max Cuba's big one. Cuba Cubes massive it's right there It says Cayman Islands. Yeah, but waking up with no alarm is the best I haven't done that in a very very long time. Mm-hmm, and it was I didn't alarm every day also pet a shitload of stingrays I still got it went to like a stingray where they Like all the boats base basically the most torsie thing you can do where all the boats are just anchored and they're just feeding the stingrays There's stingrays just everywhere. Yeah pettenham left and right man Memes you didn't you didn't go anywhere. I did nothing. It was the best. That's I love that for you I actually love that for you. You want a couple walks though. I want to sell many walks. Yeah, and Shane you went to Hawaii What's up you went to Hawaii. Yes, sir, and you brought back gifts. I did all right So I got a little something for everybody. So first thing. I don't know if Hank's winner and now I got him a yeah the whale tail necklace nice I I'll just go in order here for what I think I got Colton knees I asked Colton and the others kind of like what they like I got Colton to To spam stickers from like a local artist. Okay Stickers. Yep from a farmer's marker names peachy underscore kawaii. All right. No free shout outs. We'll bleep that I Got I got Zach. He loves he he liked to collect like playing cards. I got two different types of Of cards ones an actual deck of cards one. I thought was a deck of cards It's just like a Hawaii card game. It is pictures of Hawaii. That's sick It's like basically going bolt up. I got I Got max a passion fruit wasabi dressing Hmm love that he randomly texted me the other day and was like do you like jelly or dressing and I was like This sounds like this sounds like a bit of like a game that you were playing with a girl friend You drew a card of like texture boss I think that where you can be like can you jelly this dick down your mouth? Good thing. So I just said I refuse to answer this question instead. He's your You the only person got food This salad dressing I got jack cookies. Oh, okay, I'm chocolate chipmunks. It's reasoning was he was like I I could see you eating salad more than I could see you eating Yeah, well, I've just seen him eat salad more than I've seen him eat like toast with jelly. It's good point I got pft the the necklace that he's wearing right now as well. I got him a pretty sweet shirt. Yeah, the shirts It was the necklace and a shirt. He said the most colorful one they had I yeah They were selling like eight dollar shirts as I got I'm just gonna pick out the most colorful one there's Yeah, and I got big cat Can I run this into you? Yeah, yeah, which is how I got a necklace in a shirt What's that should they run right now the next necklace pft's been wearing anal beads this whole show All right, I got I'm opening this all right these are beetle nuts. Oh It's a it's a hook like Moana Maui Maui's hook love that that's that's great. Maui's hook, huh shame Maui's hook Shane for Moana and boys fucking love it. Yes, Maui Maui to the Pope Oh, yeah, it's going up speaking of Pope. Where the fuck is my we're having a Pope on we're having a Pope game next year Oh, yeah, feeling over Notre Dame Guys, I got you guys a present that's by the way the lottery ball machine that sounds like a lawnmower I got the boys a present in Mexico. Okay So in Mexican pharmacies they sell toadall right? Yes, and so I got I got the boys some toadall I don't know if it's actually street legal to have back in the United States. Don't care brought it back Uh, we've only got four capsules What does meme say me? What do you say no he's saying no to max max is in no max wait is it four capsules is one shot? Fort no four servings. Oh, oh, yes, what we're gonna have to do here is we're gonna save these and whoever The guys on the podcast to have the first four bad injuries. Yeah, like we're going We need to determine whether or not it's a toadall worthy entry. I think we should do I think we should do One episode where we all take toadall in the listeners have to figure out if it was a toadall episode That's also not a bad idea like we'll just randomly do a toadall episode We're not gonna tell you and you just got to be like yeah, that was toadall and then if it's such a good episode We just have to become addicted to it. I was thinking like what if we do that something like that we take it recreationally And then the day after we both get kidney stones were like fuck. I really wish we had the toadall True, I think we should do blind toadall you think we should do it all up toadall episode You should save it actually we should save it for after the bachelor party for the bachelor party Someone's gonna someone's gonna need this if I know something about this podcast. Yeah Maybe for the bachelor party when we play golf that Sunday we're gonna need it, but I feel like So there's four of these we need people to like we have to agree like Hank can't be like oh, I have a sore throat I might as well take the toadall I need to be a toadall. It does so makes you feel good. Yeah, I'll just you tell me if I need it Okay, you kind of need it right now put it in a snack right now. You want Dr. Hank Thank you all one right now. No Now you won't sleep You can't actually be wired Anyways, you can just buy this stuff in Mexico rocks. Yeah, okay, uh good show boys great to be back Let's do numbers 56 one 23 For MJ grabbing that kid's shirt They know as well The 29 big dump 87 88 86 And it's 93 and I did get memes coffee. Oh, you got memes coffee. Thank you Shane. Thank you Shane Memes what kind of anal beads do you use There's a big giant animals I Seven Anyone anyone anyone anyone anyone Danny Woodhead Anyone No, I kind of liked it. We'd none of us have it's gonna be All right, no, I like it. I like it happy birthday to Jerry O'Connell. Oh It's birthday today on Tuesday. Okay. There's not gonna show one to his help Ever did you happy birthday Jerry Jerry? Hey Jerry will see you in just a little bit for Max's bachelor party Hank Hey, no, it's Shane's birthday too apparently Shane you're birthday today. Yeah, Sunday. Yeah, Shane happy birthday. What the fuck Shane? It's today today Yeah, oh, I'm birthday dude. Thanks bro. Happy birthday Shane. Oh, thanks for the gift on your birthday I got you some turtle Guys don't sell for each other. Yeah, that's what we don't do. We don't do that as men. I I will I say you get your decades. That's it. Yep. Yeah, absolutely. Happy birthday Shane Thanks guys, that's kind of on the birthday guy not yeah, it's your fault That's my fault. That's my fault. That's the birthday guy you're doing birthdays from two days from now as the Right there. I wrote down this Jerry O'Connell one like a month ago. It's like I don't want to forget the Jerry O'Connell one I forgot about my guy Shane My bad Shane No, it's all good understandable. That's why you're great guy. I hope you like those beads. I do love these beads. Yes, you share it. It's not fine Love you guys You You You You