Bryce Crawford Interviews Tucker Carlson (EP 174)

pornography more than any other thing I'm convinced should be banned immediately and the people put on the internet should be in jail All the porn sites are controlled by governments and intelligentsies So nothing you go to an important site. You know, it's all being stored and will be used against to it necessary The real threat is only fans tender. These are threats to the civilization What's going on guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Carver podcast. I'm Bryce and today I have an incredibly special guest I've been looking forward to having sitting down and having a conversation my dad's also extremely excited about this one We have mr. Tucker Carlson with us. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming on I've been really excited about this and I have been to and pick your brain and I you know, I think podcasts always do the oh, you know, where are you from and they spend 30 minutes Getting like a backstory, you know on someone but I kind of a lot of interesting thoughts I want to get into with you so if you could like condense like you know How did you become a Christian? You know, you're obviously a Christian where you from? What was that up? Well like bankruptcy it happens slowly and then all at once I Group, you know, I'm a baptized Christian I grew up in a specific religious faith Protestant a mainline establishment Protestant faith And it doesn't really exist anymore the building still stand but there's no Christianity inside most of them some but not most yeah and And you know, I married a very sincere Christian woman daughter of a minister and That's one of the reasons I loved her and married her because she's so grounded in Jesus but you know had a bunch of kids and traveled a lot and constantly for you know about 30 years and Had religious faiths of my prayers, but I it wasn't as Wasn't as present in my moment to moment life as it became maybe four years ago And I just saw the world moving in directions that I couldn't understand at all because they didn't Inform to the to the template that I had devised over 30 years of watching which is you know This is a political struggle between various groups each want to share the pie and they argue about how to get it and so all of a sudden I started seeing things that could not be accounted for rationally and Specifically, I saw people destroying things for the sake of destroying them Hmm and black lives matter really had a huge effect on me because it had nothing to do with helping black people And nothing to with helping anybody actually it really was just an orgy of violence and fire and murder and In the end, of course it didn't help black people didn't help white people didn't help any people at all Yeah, and yet everyone in our leadership class was so enthusiastic about it And I was like, you know if you if you said we're gonna pay reparations to black people and we're gonna You know shovel a trillion dollars to black people or something and I'd be opposed to it But at least we make a kind of sense this made no sense. So it got me thinking Okay, what is this and I concluded and I even more strongly believe now that it's just a manifestation of evil and that evil destroys for the sake of destruction the point of evil the evil one We're told to ask God to be protected from in the Lord's Prayer his whole job is to destroy including the people through whom You know his power flows So that just wow I kind of came to it in Photographic negative in reverse like if there's evil and it's real It's alive. It's acting in the world through people through people. I know By the way, are not necessarily bad people are weren't when I knew them. Yeah Then then clearly God is Is it work too? And then I felt that as well and but really the pivotal thing for me was I decided to read the Bible Yeah, and I've been a daily reader my whole life because I grew up that way and I don't like video or watching things I like reading So I've read all my life and I've decided I'm gonna just read the Bible this year. That's all I'm gonna read That's the only book I'm gonna read I read it from Genesis to Revelation and And then I and I and I loved it. I just loved it. I thought it was like the greatest thing I ever read on many levels Yeah, but of course primarily spiritual, but also I'm interested in history I mean just the whole thing was unbelievable was amazing and by this point Bigger pardon, I didn't trust any creatures Yeah, I'm still living the whole trouble with that. Yeah And So I did wasn't in a Bible study or anything like that I just read it alone in my kitchen every morning and get up early and I read it with my dogs and and I've continued doing that for the for four years now And I'm just basically just cycle through the New Testament. I'm not an expert. I'm hardly at theologian I'm actually sort of anti I'm uncomfortable with a lot of theology because I watch it in the political sphere And I see that it's used to mislead people And I'm very upset about that. Yeah, and so I just want to stay out of any of that I just want to focus on who is Jesus. What does it mean to know God through Jesus? How do you become more like Jesus? How do you pray just like the basic dumb questions which reflect my basic dumb personality? I just want to know the basics. That's it And um, but I'm just really getting a lot out of it and the last thing I'll say is One of the reasons that I've been very turned off by Uh Public displays of Christianity like extremely turned off. Mm-hmm. Don't even want to be the same room. That's not Is because I have a lifelong hatred of self-righteousness Well at the same time, of course I Believe in righteousness and I would like to be more righteous myself And I I think our country needs more righteousness. Yeah, but self-righteousness is um is repulsive To me yeah, and uh and it's kind of hard to talk about it without Becoming self-righteous and so My prayer for myself. I don't have a lot of prayers. I have a big family So I have like a lot of prayers for a lot of people have a long prayer list I don't have that many for myself, but one is to Avoid self-righteous. Yeah, I like that Yeah, I I think it's interesting. I have a lot of respect for you and one of the reasons why I have a lot of respect for you I feel like now when I You know scroll on social media or I turn on the news or I hear someone say something they blame oh A perspective on homosexuality transgenderism abortion all these things on politics and they label it politics They say politics is a bad thing But it's really just worldview at the end of the day. It's really just worldview right it we're labeling You know, oh you don't believe you believe homosexuality is wrong. Oh, you're just political and I'm like Well, I actually have a worldview and that worldview is I'm a believer. I'm I follow Jesus and What I respect a lot about you is your worldviews and your politics are founded a lot in your faith and and one of my favorite things I watched and I love I loved the clip was you sat down with Ted Cruz. Yes, and he was talking about Israel and You know he brought up the passage I believe it's in Genesis where it's like those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed and I loved how you just went who is Israel. I loved how you kept asking that Because I I just feel like as believers and and even in today's American society like you said You're seeing the theology being warped and used and things like that and people just aren't reading this macro narrative of Scripture can you can I kind of talk a little bit about that? Are you tired of getting bad sleep at night? 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Oh, it's a political debate I believe this is just what I conclude from in the Bible But also just from living for 56 years that we're not Really commanded to struggle against other people or at least primarily the first struggle is against ourselves The Lord's prayer is structured in a way that is non-exadental Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us or press by the answers It's kind of in that order for a reason it comes from Jesus and My belief my assumption is that the first thing that we focus on is the log in our own eye Okay, so questions of abortion which of course should be illegal. It's murder almost sexuality Of course, it's horrible for everyone involved. It's not good. It's not liberation. There's nothing gay about it It's a tragedy. Sorry. I've seen a lot of it But I do think we should like just always focus on our own shortcomings first Because we're commanded to by Jesus and two it puts us in the right frame I mean, I'm in a lot of political battles like every day or I'm the subject of political battles I tried to join too many of them but um And I find myself thinking like you know, Mark Levin Well, he's a pompous piece of shit whatever I think about Mark Levin which I do think by the way And then I need to remind myself that yeah, so am I So am I like I actually am no better than my persecutors on some most basic level Which is why I'm commanded to pray for them Because it puts it all in both of us a fallen short of God me and Mark Levin And neither one of us is going to get into heaven except by the grace of God Here he is. Why do you think people are more tolerant of their own sin than other people? Well, because it's yours Because it's so much easier to blame other people Of course, I mean Jesus addresses this in Matthew and other places at great length and was specificity Don't you know and he refers to the Pharisees first and foremost is what Hippocrates They're attacking others for doing what they do Was just reading this this morning actually and think and brooding about it and so Look, you know, I'm not in charge of the universe. I am not God which is something that's gonna be posted on my refrigerator Just to remind me I am not God So you know, I don't know how in the end everything shakes out But I know for a fact the temptation in my life is not to do cocaine or Go to hookers or whatever the temptation is to become puffed up and self-righteous And be filled with hubris and arrogance like I am prone to that Period, I am prone to that and most men are most successful men are really prone to that So I just want the first battle in my life every day to be against my own Bad inclination can we talk about that because I I like that I read this book I read this book called tale of three kings by his guy named gene Edwards and he writes this perspective of like David Saul and Absalom And he and when he when he talks about Absalom he talks about pride and self-righteousness and things like that and You know, I it's interesting that you brought up the thing about not trusting a lot of preachers and pastors When I when I became a Christian when I was 17 you think yeah And I would be in these areas in these perspectives where I would see these preachers that I had watched You know for my private Christian school, you know, I had to watch the sermon and write a paper on it or you know People I after I became a Christian. I was like oh, I look up to this person and I would go serve at a conference or at a church So I could go listen and I would be I felt like there was a bait and switch, you know where I was like oh that You're not this is what I thought it was like, you know, this is That you're not what you set up there like you're you you that hurt me that makes me feel Very like I can't trust like I can't trust anyone, you know, and so as I as I started Like serving and being in the background of these things kind of looking around I noticed that a lot of a lot of people Um particularly in in in the Christian space they were surrounding themselves With people that were impressed by them. Oh And so so then they just like they they couldn't No one could tell them no we have a rule in my office. No compliments So when you do a live show when you perform in these true form musicians anyone performs I perform my whole life So that's what I do There's this weird especially if you're successful if you hit your internal marks like you say what you plan to say you say it in a way you're happy with Well, you come off of that with this like Here I am Caesar surveying the kingdom kind of attitude. Yeah, and it ask anyone who performs Trust me. This is why you know, no one who tours with a band is faithful as they come off the set and are like babies. I'm here And I've just seen that so much and so I have always felt my whole life that flattery is far more insidious and dangerous to the human soul than attacks You know someone will attack me, you know Imagine Being if you're me one of the reasons I have this job is because I can it doesn't bother me What bothers me is you're so great. You're so great No one's ever been as you may be the reincarnation of the dolly llama. It's like that kind of talk Um, we'll destroy your soul. You know, so we do not allow that. I've never allowed that in my office Wow, it's so who do you have in your life and your corner? That's close to you that like wounds you with their words Oh, no, no one, but I have a lot of I mean, we if you knew how we lived You know very not insular, but just like same people we have a big family as I've said a couple of times You know my best friends with my college roommates my brother is my best friend Sitting right there. You know, it's just like I've been I married my high school girlfriend. We've been together 41 years It's Emily who's sitting right there in the catch room with 10 years like basically living with her family So it's like it's a small circle of trusted wise people And in general, we have no sharp words. I'm just not into sharp words in the positive or negative I just don't like that, you know, no rudeness. I'm from a culture that really isn't for rudeness period In fact, we created playness of I can brag um, so We don't do that. However, I being honest is essential absolutely essential and there are a whole bunch of people In I'm fox is sitting right behind me. I worked with time a long time Time with something on the plane and he's like, I don't think it's good idea. I was like, you're right So I mean, I want that you need that you have to have that and by the way if you can't accept that You've got the wrong people around you as people you don't trust and I've never understood why people especially the age and the stakes get higher They surround themselves with all these like random hangers on and all this stuff It's like why would you ever do that politicians do that it's bonkers Higher some money obsessed kid to run your campaign. You think he's not gonna share the whole thing is just bad So we have a role in my office Never I always want talented people. That's not our top requirement Well, first of all, I don't want any people we're the same people no one ever leaves. Yeah, I really with the same people And I got fired for fox everyone came, you know, it's like with the same world And I really like that because I don't have any boundaries between work and Home, so like it's all the same to me. It's all kind of an extended family. So It's not no competence, you know smart people will ultimately figure out the job It's honesty and decency And that would also include like your personal life. Sorry. This is something I've learned the hard way after 25 years 30 years So working in television if you've got some freaky personal life That absolutely affects your integrity it affects your ability to be honest It affects my ability to trust you This has been demonstrated again and again and again because a lot of people in tv have really freaky personal lives And I went from being so liberal on that. I've never had a freaky personal life But whatever you're doing it's not my business. That's has always been I'm 56 That's a very American attitude in my generation. I don't feel that way at all anymore I don't want that you're having a house then weekends can't work for me. Yeah Not because I think you're worse than I am. I don't as I said Known as worse than I am. I need Jesus as much as you do But because I this will not result in straightforward honest behavior Sorry, and I'm not guessing about that. Yeah, because I've lived it. Yeah. Wow. That's encouraging. It's a nice day here like Yeah, I in the book of Luke he kind of talks about the hypocrisy of the Pharisees being like leaven You know it's sour and spreads and and and it sounds like that to be true of of people's personal lives It comes from within and this subversion in America one of the reasons I don't like All the partisan stuff. First of all the Republicans do not speak for me at all and I know them. I mean some do I never voted Democrat probably never will they're for abortion. I'm not voting for that. I don't care what you do I'm not voting for that at gunpoint Because I really mean it. You know, I'm a post. Sorry But um, but the Republicans are I mean by and large like repulsive to me So like to make it a because they don't they don't have my values. Sorry So to make it Republican versus Democrats is like completely false And it also ignores the deeper truth which is our problem start within us And I honestly think that one of the biggest problems started shock your viewers is pornography on the internet And I'm gonna say specifically people like oh pornography is so bad I'm talking about a specific thing which is hey sleep with my wife pornography Which is pushed by the pornography Japanese If you think about that for a second first of all all the porn sites are controlled by governments and intelligentsies So nothing you go to an important site You know, it's all being stored and will be used against you if necessary people don't know that that's a fact Okay, including the camera on your phone Whoa, why's it up boys? Um, okay, so that's just a fact. Okay, you don't have to believe it if you don't want this truth It's so funny because I know so many people that like hide their phones like oh they're watching me But they like don't believe it but it's true on porn sites is true. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yes So anyway, whatever there's that but I'm really addressing the moral question And it's too uncomfortable so no one's talking about all to say it point blank the whole point Of building a society the whole point is to make sure your wife doesn't get Both from a moral perspective and from an evolutionary biological perspective. Is that my kid? I can't be sure like all the structures we build Not all but most fundamentally are designed to ensure Opportunity. Yeah, that's my son. Yeah, that's my wife and she wasn't known all-submarine Why do we have a military what is any I don't need a military? I'm fully armed right Societies build militaries to keep their family safe to keep their children From being sold and their wives from being carried off and impregnated by somebody else. It's like the deepest It is the absolute deepest Instinct in a man is to protect his wife from sleeping with other women. What is marriage? Marriage is an agreement that I I along to sleep with that woman and she along to sleep with me I mean, it's reciprocal but That's like the most basic thing in a man the most a big Which will freaking hands up my wife. Yeah people how many people have been murdered over the years over that Yeah countless beaten to death with a pool queue If you subvert that in a man if you through repeated exposure Convince him that actually it's really hot to have some random dude to sleep with his wife You have defeated him as a man. Yeah You have defeated him as a man if I can't protect my wife from some other man sleeping with her I'm not a man actually. I'm less than a man. I'm a unique And pornography and all visual presentation is incredibly good at subverting people because it sidesteps your rational brain and goes right to your animal brain Like that. I worked in television. I know how this works. Yeah So if the point of pornography is to convince you it's okay for some random guy to sleep with your wife And millions of American men believe that or in their deepest secret thoughts are turned on by it You've prepared the country to be taken over. Yeah, okay, because you have made the men not men anymore Right, and you often hear people especially women say they look like we're all the men Who are my daughters gonna marry like these men are are you know, of course Joy boys and wasp bags also but but on an even deeper level son about their haircuts Okay, or how much weed they smoke yeah, it's about the vibe that comes off him Rose no self respect and no willingness to do the very first thing that a man pledges to do for his wife Which is to protect her yeah from what other men yeah, so like let's just like wake I mean This last 80 years of prosperity has driven Americans and the West in general so far from what is fundamentally true But the the most fundamental truth about marriages It's your job to make sure other men don't get to sleep with your wife. That's number one And pornography more than any other thing. I'm convinced has subverted that and it should be banned immediately and the people put on the internet should be in jail porn hook-up culture sexing and more have become normalized in our generation They keep congeny the lost generation weak confused and checked out but I really buy it biblical manhood isn't about dominance or ego It's about courage sexual integrity discipline responsibility It's about men who protect build and serve front line 21 by our friends at covenant eyes Exist to call our generation back to God's word and his will for our lives 100 years from now our kids and grandkids won't even remember our social media posts or our opinions online They're gonna remember the example we set the choices we made the gifts God has given us What we choose truth over comfort and lies this movement is about more than reminding us not to look at porn to attend church or to read our Bible more Which are all critical things? 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It's all it's all the movies, but it's even darker like so adultery is bad I'm obviously making a case on some level against adultery, but I'm talking about something specific It's not just your wife runs off and cheats the new most men are horrified by that Men, of course are totally prone to do that and will do that at every opportunity unless you like Build structures to to get them not to do it right because that's just in a man He wants to impregnate as many women as he can obviously That's bad. That's why you have marriage and Christianity and laws and all stuff But what I'm talking about is something way darker Which is wife sleeps with some random guy stranger and husband to proves That is true subversion encouraging your wife to sleep put on their man you are Masculated on the deepest possible level and Elements of our society in particularly pornography do encourage that and the rise in it is really really noticeable and occasional be a scandal about it And it has it's really way deeper than sex and nobody talks about it because like sex is embarrassing and all okay fine I never talk about sex in public because I think it is private of course. This is not private This has an effect on the nation itself and on its men who are supposed to be leading the nation but aren't And they're not leading their families. They're not leading the nation. Why is that? Well, this is one of the reasons Yeah, I you know, I live in LA and I can't tell you the the Calis amount of times I hear Girls who are friends who are friends with us say man If there was just a man if I just met a man who's from Texas Still real man a masculine six three protector. They always say that protector So we would stand up for me Protect and provider that are the two requirements for the job They say that's what we look for in a man, but here's the contrary though. That's it really interesting Which I want to you know get your take on this the same people that are saying this Are settling for the men that you're describing well right because there aren't a ton of options So do you think it do you think it's because do you think it's because they actually want the masculine man or do you think it's because they like this This Feminized version of a I don't think they like that version at all and and I think in you know worst case They cheat on that that that version, you know the indecisive weak man And I have a lot of thoughts on this because again, I've lived a long time and I've always lived with women So but one of the one of the Things I think is that weak men incite aggression in women They change women men and women change each other. It's a dynamic process It's not like you just like find a girl and live with her and you know No, no, you totally change Living with her and she totally changes living with you you influence each other more than any other people in your life Including your children your employer your parents doesn't matter your spouse influences you more than anyone And a weak man will really change a woman a lot and And not in good ways and a bad one will totally change a man too make you they will make him weaker You know, but again, we understate the degree to which men and women need each other they can't live For the most part there are anomalies of course, but they cannot live without each other. They're designed to become one flesh That's not just a theological concept Hebrew Christian. It's just like a it's a note, you know, it's a noticeable phenomena It's just real. Yeah, anyone who's lived it can affirm that So they don't just need each other, but they they become far less than themselves when they're apart in super recognizable ways Which I could explain, but I know you're familiar with them and And so the failure of men and women to find each other and the distant sentives That our society has erected are a way bigger threat than Iran, which is not really a threat The real threat is I don't know only fans Tinder. I mean these are Rets to the civilization And they're also just manifestations of deeper problems. It's not all only fans has fall But if like you're turning 10% of the American female population into prostitutes You need to be in jail like right now. I don't care how much money you give To the ADL or whatever they're doing a pack or whatever they're paying off all the All the politicians you you should Have to answer for that. It turned my women into prostitutes. Who do you think you are? That's what an invading army does That's what the Ottomans did yeah, and everyone's like oh the Muslims. Oh the Muslims really I mean yeah, okay. It's a Christian country. I'm pro-Christian. I couldn't be more pro-Jesus, okay But if we're assessing the actual threats as I see them as they exist as as can be measured rather than threats on Fox News The threat is not the Muslims are the Muslims coming in here and turning our daughters into prostitutes. No only fans is doing that so Okay, let's just identify the problem first So so when we were in LA when we first moved out there we started a Bible study specifically for people um That were doing social media or in the acting scene that didn't want publicly people to know that they were checking out Christianity and the amount of of women that would show up to this Bible study Broken who were in this only fan scene and and I can't tell you the amount of companies in in LA that they'll throw parties as like a Dislabeled company and then you show up and they got people in the crowd talking to the girls and even talking to the guys You know in the contrary getting these guys rope in these guys in to do gay stuff on only fans But but particularly the girls will come up to the girls and they'll find the ones who had a rise on social media And you know the lifestyle in LA is as my as my as fame increases and money increases my lifestyle has to increase And then if they begin to plateau and they're you know their money income it decreases They feel like they have to keep up with an image rights. They have a freak out. They're like oh, I got to figure out I make money. I got to do this and then that's when these only fans people creep in and they're like hey go on only fans It's not a big deal. Just take some cute pictures in a bikini or do this And then before you know it all these women that are coming to the Bible study They're being pimped out and going on dates with rich men that aren't just dates You know and they're coming to our Bible study Broken loss and confused. This is three years ago You know when I first moved out there that are looking for an escape that have been brainwashed They've been warped all because you've got literally these pimps coming in here saying hey just just take a cute picture It's just cute pictures and then it eases into that and then even on the contrary the amount of men that we knew that That would say oh, you know, I would never do a such a thing. I would never do that That's awful. That's I would never do that And then before you know it in six months they're doing things that you know you would have never thought and imagined And it's it's really plaguing I see it more in Los Angeles than I did in my small country town in Georgia You know, it's like if someone in my small country town in Georgia was doing only fans everybody knew about it You know what I mean? Everyone go oh that's you know let me get away from that but in LA Everyone just about everyone under the sun is on it and I think partially the appeal was Oh, you need money You need to keep up with this image and then before you knew it They're doing a bunch of crazy stuff that They would have never thought or imagined and think And the amount of broken women and men but broken women that were coming to us seeking help seeking refuge Go ahead man. What what is going on? Blink of my eye. I feel like I'm not even myself. I don't even know who I am broken lost and confused um Is plaguing so I'm I'm a huge believer in getting to the source of problems like this um You know obviously fentanyl and meth I don't know the whole pharmacopy of drugs are like a huge problem. They're causing the homeless Ness we see all around us. They're killing 100,000 or more Americans every year I'm not that in favor of giving life sentences to meth heads I'm for finding people who are trafficking the meth selling them out profiting from the meth and going up As high on the chain as we possibly can so I just for the third time I don't understand how only fans specifically since this by far the biggest prostitution ring in the country how the pimped at the top been allowed to kind of live a free man Send millions of dollars to political organizations which gladly accept it I'm sure goes to you know tribute bankwits in his honor I don't I just don't I don't understand that yeah, and so um You know putting him in jail doesn't solve the problem Of course these are human problems. They're not all his fault But he's exploiting them to make billions and that should it we should at least say that's bad Why can't we say that's bad? I said that's bad. We'll shut up Yeah, you're a big it Um, and that gets me to the question of israeli. I don't mean to dodge your question. I'll just do it really quickly I there's a whole theological debate about dispensationalism or replacement Yeah, I'm not a dispensational. I don't know anything about any of that stuff I've never I never heard the terms yeah, um, it's not the world like we're up in I think it's sort of interesting But um, I don't fully understand it and I would never weigh in on it I would only say If you think that murdering ten's of thousands of children which the israeli government has done is consistent with Christianity We're just we're reading a different a different manuscript. I just don't don't see that at all um Understand Christianity to be You know the very very different faith and I it's hard to imagine Jesus being in favor of this Yeah, and I guess we can have a debate about it, but what gets me going is watching Christian preachers were paid by the government of israel take free vacations israel where they stock up on talking points and propaganda and then inflict all of that propaganda on their congregations And then use the bible to justify it you're justifying violence against innocence. Yeah I I recognize October 7th is bad. I'm hardly shilling for the Islamists. It's also stupid I just don't think That What the israeli government has done in gaza which is a crime it's a historic crime. It is genocide It's an effort to move an entire people out and kill a lot of them and then take their land I thought we were against that it happens all the time around the world israel is not the only country that does it But they are doing it we're paying for it and All of a sudden out of nowhere all these Christian pastors these evangelical pastors come in and are like if you criticize that you're not a Christian And you hate Jesus and hate Jews. It's like I I You know there's a debate over what the term the great deception refers to but it could be that because that's so crazy to me And maybe I'm the crazy one I Preface this by saying I try to maintain humility at all times like what do I know? I'm a Episcopalian. I don't know anything But I have pressed a lot of these people like including Ted Cruz Who's a politician like he's not a theologian I get it But he couldn't even name the book of the Bible Not even the book that supported his entire Christian theology So I think it's fair for me to say and by the way my version of the Bible which is the nlt Which I like great sensation. Yeah, I really like the nlt very much. It's just clear English right Doesn't have that phrase in it This is sorry So but whatever It's not I guess what I'm saying is this isn't about theology. I think there are a lot of really decent um thoughtful Bible believing Christians Jesus followers who have been convinced of this And maybe they're right. I don't think they are. Maybe they are I don't think I'm necessarily always right. That's for sure But I know for a fact that a lot of their preachers have become political actors who are working on behalf Of a foreign government that's very hostile to Christianity They ever try to convert Israelis in Tel Aviv All these preachers go over there for the weekend. Jesus is the answer. They're telling their congregations today They try to street preach in Tel Aviv No, not one of them. They don't What is that do you really believe so so I see them as Either willing or unwilling dupes of foreign government Whatever they're motive whatever they know or don't know They are doing something that's inexcusable and It's very hard to understand what they're doing. I kind of have the same train of thought as you You know, I remember when the october 7th thing went down I can admit here humbling like yeah I was like the average evangelical pastor That's like yeah, which it tends to be a trend and I think I think there are a lot of people that do the same thing They're like yeah, you know, this you know God's chosen people This isn't that and that's how I was but then it was like I had to do my own digging When I would go I would have to look at news sources coming from Jerusalem coming from Israel and all these things to kind of go. Oh shoot. Wait. There's a lot more happening over there that I I didn't know There's a lot more going down that I I wasn't told when I turned on the news And so that's that's kind of where you know I loved when you were talking to tech cruising. You're like who is Israel right because when the average evangelical is like Israel Oh, yes, the ethnic group Ethically Jewish people that's who Israel is and that's who it is and I and I would be kind of where you are where I'm like I think meet personally. I personally think Israel is Believers in Jesus Christ and I and I you know you read Romans the book of Romans where it talks about you know being grafted into the tree and that people who are grafted in have been given the right to become children of Abraham You know, it's like who are children of Abraham Well, there's a lot throughout the New Testament about all of this because of course it was written by Jews originally four Jews, but There's a lot about this but the takeaway from my perspective and I think any person who reads it Has trouble reaching the other conclusion at the point of this is Jesus and getting to have and requires faith in Jesus That is Christianity as far as I know And so they've changed the definition of Christianity which seems like again. I'm not a theologian. I want to say that again Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like they've changed the definition of the religion itself Like everyone has to believe in Jesus to get to God except for these people. Okay. Who are these people? Well, it's this group. It's this chosen group. Well, how do we know who's in it? Yeah, is it is it an ethnic group? Well, we have ancestry.com and 23 and me we can test for that Yeah, well like how what percentage of DNA do you need to have to be in this group? Any question like that just a rational question Is met with like an attack Ted Cruz like three questions in calling an anti-Semite And to my shame it made me mad. I shouldn't have gotten mad. I should have laughed But I did get mad. I was offended. I don't know if I'd have been called into a semi before in the in the Just right since I would call like a hundred times today But at the time I was like anti-Semite of course I'm not anti-Semite which I'm not and wasn't that but I was struck by his I get to tell for me as someone who interviews for a living If I ask you a question and rather than answer it you attack me You kind of answered it in a sense didn't you? Yeah, right? Yeah, you didn't you didn't actually answer the question You in order to avoid answering the question you attacked me so No, and I think by the way, I think it's just mostly dying I don't meet too many people who will defend the proposition That you know Christian and we as Christians believe that you need to believe in Jesus get to heaven except for some people May or may not have anything to do with each other or the ancient Israelites Don't have to believe in Jesus because how? None of it makes any sense at all and so my view is and this is not hate. This is love I think everyone needs Jesus. I certainly do much more than I have by the way. Likewise. I do Do you believe Christianity is going to become a minority in America? Yeah, what already? Yes And who do you think who do you think it's going to be who's who's going to be responsible for that? You know some people are gonna say Oh, you know the Muslims which I'm very passionate about the about Islam It's something I've been very passionate about recently. Yeah, some people are gonna be like oh, it's the Muslims some people are gonna be like Oh, it's this who do you think is gonna be responsible for for the the Decreasing in Christianity you think it's gonna be the people who are the real threat and the real threat or not religious people Don't have anything. I you know Orthodox Jews have a completely different religion from mine, you know Reading the Talmud all day. I'm not even sure what's in there. I'm not against Orthodox Jews. I've always gotten along with them. Yeah Um, I'm not against Orthodox Muslims at all always gotten along with them I don't think the threat to me from my perspective. They're not the ones running only fans They're not the ones selling meth. They're not the ones Distraining my country. They're also not the ones shooting people by and large they are being watched by the God they believe in now. It's not my God in a lot of cases But I feel like the threat is people who think they're God clearly. I don't really know any you think Elon Omar is like a faithful Muslim. No, she's a white liberal actually That's the that is the category that really worries me Those are the most extreme crazy The people without God are really terrifying. It's secular people. They're the ones who committed the biggest genocides In world history. It wasn't religious fanatics Who murdered all those Christians in the Soviet Union? It was atheists Mao was not a religious person. He was an atheist Hitler was some kind of wickener something. You know what I mean? Yeah So that's what I'm worried about and the world that I've lived in I mean I grew up in the opposite world from you I mean, I mean, we didn't you know, I never run I don't think I've met too many Baptists in my life You know, in a mean yeah, I never heard that word Jesus uttered in public except when you hit your home Some with a hammer or something. Yeah, and I think those people are really scary. Yeah people without any God. Yeah Now I think it's interesting like uh, you know When you when you look at people like yourself or like uh like Charlie uh, who were having discussions with who have discussions with people And people look at oh, you're just arguing arguing so bad. This isn't that you know other and I'm over here like I kind of look at it in this way. Jesus teaching the temple every day Yeah, and I'm like literally have most of Paul's epistles or arguments to the church. You know, it's like what are we doing? You know, we're I believe we're growing very soft Now and you know, I that's gonna change and I remember every every year You know when I went back and when I was little in my small country town You know, I remember what it was like to be raised by my parents And they did a good job of raising me and the things that they instituted in my life the disciplines that they gave me and I was I was just raised a certain way and now as I feel like I'm growing older. It's oh you can't argue you can't say that you can't do this But it's okay to talk about everything else but Jesus Is it always in that way That's what I noticed about Matthew 10 which was like one of my favorite chapters in the whole New Testament where Jesus sends out the Apostles Just pick them we just picked them Is it called the Great Commission or writing growth monitor? So he sends out the 72 and that's later right Okay, so the initial one. Thank you so much. So you can tell a little I know but I just love this scene So he picks the 12 and he sends him out and he's like don't take any money. Don't take any extra clothes Don't take a walking stick with you And by the way, you're gonna get flogged and thrown into jail just kind of casually Or fine. Come ahead. You're parents are like all right, man Head out Just don't take a thing with you and by the way you're probably gonna get beaten with a whip and thrown to prison and Entrial fear life, but but don't worry about it. It's like he says it in this very bossay way, which I love And the reason I love it is because it's totally true Yeah, he says in that passage you're gonna be attacked because of me That was true then It's true now. Yeah, and we lived in this weird nerf world for so many years in the United States Like oh, we're all Christian, but we're also worshiping money and excusing violence. Yeah, and bragging about ourselves There's nothing Christian about any of that money worship is the opposite of Christian. Yeah, okay So but we could say we're Christian so all's cool. It's totally fine and my church has a frilly and people at it We've got 19 services and youth pastors and like we're winning and a smoke machine. Yeah I've never really been around any of that but I remember thinking I'm not really sure that's the way you measure The condition of your soul, but whatever whatever so um now we're entering into a much harder period of people like Jesus like that's very offensive. I gave a talk at Charlie Kirk's memorial a few months ago in September And only talked about Jesus. I was like I don't want to get political to animal moral service like I think it's beneath the memorial I've reverence for death because I have reverence for life and I only talked about Jesus and I've never been that attack I was anti-Semitic what I was like you know nothing to do with juice and since I'm reading them I'm talking about the gospel It didn't matter people read their own interpretations There's a secret message now whatever the point what triggered people was talk about Jesus And I was really shocked by it and then I remembered math you 10 And I'm like and huge parts of the New Testament Jesus I mean Paul is like writing all these different churches throughout Turkey and he's like oh, I'm chained to the wall, you know This person, you know, it's like it's only about suffering Every evangelist in the entire New Testament. I mean where does John write Revelation? Why is he on Patmos in the first place? Yeah, because he's been exiled there. Yeah And so persecution is a natural result of evangelism It's just and by the way if you're not being persecuted you're probably not doing it right you're probably Paul a white Right, you know what I mean I totally understand I think even when I read the gospel say that Even meant it When I when I read about something like John the Baptist too which I think A wise of which I think it goes kind of coincides with like even your pornography thing you were mentioning earlier You know John the Baptist he rolls up on King Herod same issue two thousand years ago Stop sleeping with your brother's wife. I know and throws him in jail Oh, of course, and then some lady does a strip tease on King Herod He's like oh, what do you want? Oh, yeah, I want John the Baptist head The daughter that's crazy is that not oh, it's it's bad. It's it's interesting the grip sexual sin Has well, I just reread the world the David saga as I love David with best sheba everybody of course with best sheba But what I didn't well first of all who bathes on a roof naked. That's so hot and I get it You know, I get it here's this You know, he's just caught up in the hubris of success. I mean that's exact I mean any man who says I can't relate to the best sheba scene is lion Because of course she can and then he's like who's that? who's you know whatever married go kill her husband But the two things that I forgot I just reread this so the two things that I had forgotten are one His first born son with best sheba dies is killed by God Second, I think that's widely remembered by most people but secondly forget is toward the end of his life when he's really under the gun The first person To like betray him and give him the finger and not stand by him is best sheba So he's really punished for the rest of his life like a wife who won't stand by you in turmoil Is hell on earth That's what that is and if you get married and go through stuff You will find that the number one test of Marriage is when the husband loses his job or gets attacked or Called a Nazi by Mark Levin or Just kidding my wife does you know that's happening But you know what you mean like When when things go not as planned in the wrong direction that's when you find out What your marriage is about and what your wife is about and the deepest desire of every man is to have his wife standing by him because a wife gives you strength Yeah, that's the key to success in life is a wife who believes you can succeed. That's where men strength comes from by the way And he finds out the hard way that he doesn't have that that's like worst point Why am I telling you this I get because it's so recognizable And all these years later, you know, they have kids and she's queen and all this stuff. It doesn't matter He still holds it against him. That's rough. It was it really stuck with me And he thought he's getting into something good because he saw naked best Shiva on a roof. Yeah, men's time horizon gets pretty limited In certain periods, you know situationally you think so I do think so. Yeah, I've heard that I've heard that There are a lot of ways every language has a euphemism for that. I'm not gonna use any of the English ones But um, yes, it's a it's a widely observed phenomenon. Yes, so I'm getting I'm actually I wanted one of the questions I had for you is marriage advice. I'm getting married in January. What? Gay married and and I only take Relationship advice for married people You got like well, so you take it from well, you know everyone on TikTok wants to take Dating advice and marriage advice from two 16 year olds that have been together for 20 days you actually oh all the time Yeah, everyone's asking everyone on social media or they're watching relationships dating relationships I bet they're writing their own about me. Yeah, it's so bad It's inventing it holds bad. Yeah, so if you had some marriage advice what would be your greatest piece of marriage advice? I have two pieces well one observation one piece of advice the the foundation of marriage is single Critical piece that will determine the health prosperity happiness of your family or children does the wife respect her husband So men are required to Love their wives women are required to love respect their husbands And I do think loving your wife is easier than respecting her husband And because men have a pretty lothra shoulders for love not gonna be more specific But um, it just kind of comes naturally she smells good Respect for your husband is harder to win But it's it's absolutely critical and want to wife respects her husband she gives him the strength I just described she gives a sense of security Invulnerability to the children everything's okay between mom and dad therefore everything is okay period um, and that is where the peace and a marriage comes from is that respect and it has to be given And also earned She has to give it he has to earn it and so that is the critical thing right there in my opinion and there are a lot of factors in our society that That make it hard yeah to exist, which is why so many marriages fail and I believe that after just for the record 35 years married 41 years with the same girl watch carefully And that's what I've concluded my one piece of marriage advice has to do with children and It's really simple and there are all kinds of complex marriages and like you find yourself in places where you didn't expect to be and Especially if their drugs are alcohol involved. It's a it's a very very different thing But um for people who are facing this the normal challenges, which are mostly about money That's the biggest challenge everyone's like so caught up in sex and Everything's fine. You don't have problems there It money puts massive stress on marriage or ask any married couple and In a normal marriage facing normal stresses like the ones I just described the critical mistake That people make is they focus on the children instead of each other And for the obvious reason children have immediate needs. They're not long-term needs. I have to pee. I'm hungry We play with me like this is not long-term stuff. It's like right now You love your children. That's organic. Only a freak doesn't love his kids It just comes naturally to you even the hardest parted person loves his kids Stalin loved his daughter. Just you can't help it So it's really easy and that's all great. It's all designed by God So make you into a decent parent But the trap is if you use your children as an escape from your spouse And I am just amazed after all these years of living with the same woman every single day Waking up with the dogs in the same girl every morning for all these years How hard it is for men and women to understand each other and I'm at like 75% comprehension And really really trying hard. I'm like a child learning Japanese EG Nissan go like I'm really trying right To understand what my wife is saying I know that she's trying every bit is hard and we get all we have great communication relatively speaking But it's still only 75% because we're different sexes and the differences are more profound than our society admits We they're all the same. Just you can change it. Well, that's the biggest lie I've ever told it's absurd Have you ever been married? You don't understand what she's saying So it's hard and the communicates are differently. Here's the point of the observation is that it's so easy for a man to be alive freaking crazy Which they are I mean obviously But the craziness is is not it's just on the surface. They actually have something important to tell you And so many men I've done this a million times myself for like I can't deal with this I'm super busy You're crazy. I don't know what you're saying. I'm gonna go be with the kids If you keep doing that you will destroy your man You will destroy your man. You have to as the husband who is in charge of the household Period doesn't mean you're an autocrat or a king or boss your wife around you'll never boss your wife around No man is even able to boss his wife around It's like they're impossible to boss around Does it don't even it's not even worth trying but it what I mean by in charge is You have to be the leader you have somebody has to make a decision at some point in that person is you She wants that from you God has ordained that you were created to be the leader. Sorry And anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to shirk their duties. I'm not the leader here Yeah, you are whether you want to be or not and if you shirk that she'll hate you for that. Press me. She'll hate you Yeah Man up and listen to what she's saying until you can figure out what it is And the last thing I will say is if you're as you're getting married like your weddings in next month Yeah, on the 10th. Okay, so she's calling you all the time with like hey, I've got all these decisions Like what colors you want the napkins How many people should be in the pictures? This is happening to you. I know for a fact. I haven't talked for a bit. I already noticed Your profit. I am a profit and you're yeah, I've been around a few weddings So your your instinct is always you made baby you got this I trust you you got them you make the decision You're communicating to her I have total faith in you. I know you'll do the right thing. You're gonna be a great wife great mother great But running our household she hears from you That's what you're thinking when you say that because I know you've said that for a fact because I've been listening to your calls She is thinking he doesn't care. He's not interested Don't say that What you say is she said should we have orange or pink napkins say pink obviously Should go I like the orange and you say that's absolutely right orange we need orange napkins We don't want pink napkins we want orange napkins How many people should be at wedding pictures you say 15 should be like well, I wanted 12. Yeah, that's right 12 She wants you to engage she wants you to make the decision When in fact, she's really making the decision You'll have this problem with dinner. Let's go to dinner Friday. Where do you want to go and you'd be like wherever you want to go baby Whatever you want and she'll hear he doesn't care about going to dinner with me You say I want to go to the Italian place she'll say I hate Italian. I want to go Chinese and you say to her Italians disgusting We're going to the Chinese place I like that. It's real. It's the most real thing and you will save so much sadness and drama in your household She'll totally relax and go he's got this even though you just repeated her choice back to her No, for real. Yeah, and that's basically marriage In a sentence You're repeating her choice back to her as a decision. Wow But if you allow her to make the decision she doesn't want to make the decision she wants you to make the decision if You just say you make the decision all she hears is he doesn't care. He's thinking about golf. Wow Thinking about go right this on your arm dude. This is important. I like I really appreciate that I mean I mean encouraging and I got one last question for you before it's not encouraging. It's like totally demented I've got to do this. You know, I've got to we've got no pink napkins orange napkins. No ever you were right I'm like you're telling me this stuff and I'm like This literally just happened 12 hours ago. Yeah, I said the same thing. So that is No, because you're gonna tell her look I you know, I'm not an expert on weddings you've got the wedding You know talk to your mom about it whatever She all she hears You don't care. Remember they don't hear what you say They're different from us and that's why marriage is still interesting 30 40 50 years in by the way, that's why homosexuality so basically unsatisfying you get bored really fast Yeah, yeah, and there's some other problems Maybe that maybe there's some other problems there other than just saying it's boring Uh, so I mean, you know, I think I think sometimes seeing a lot with my generation in particular is like with stuff like AI Cheshire PT things like that. They're leaning more on That's their brain They're not researching themselves and even even even for example like with stuff like a Bible Bible apps You know, the every Bible app now. It's got an AI feature when there it's like oh, you know If you're struggling with the Bible question, you know, just ask the AI, you know, the AI will tell you and and I bet and I'm like You know that to me this is it's hard for me to watch this go down because I'm like because the AI in about Six months. He's like Jesus was fake worship mollic. It's a don't brave literally will it literally will and I think I is but I Come on man. It's bail. It's bail 100% just throw your kids into the fire and everything will be great Yeah, the worst of the fertility gods and it's bad But I think I think you know like so many people and and then I'm watching or like it's like they're losing brain power IQ and they're leaning on a robot in a computer and and now I mean obviously when I read the scriptures john 14 the holy spirits The helper and he's the teacher and no one wants to do their own digging anymore They want to rely on a robot and just I mean how how do you see that playing out now for Christians in particular But just people in general like in their daily lives using their brains being prepared, you know being watchful being educated Things like that. What are you seeing? I mean we're called to discipline among other things discipline, you know, you know, it's right are to do it narrow path and I'm no one to lecture anyone on disciplines since I love all the Reese's products not just the peanut butter cups But literally all of them and they're like 50 of them and I like them all so I'm not I don't want to be self-righteous once again But righteousness requires discipline And if you conclude as I think any normal person would that the stuff is making you dumber and that screen time is cutting you off from other people You know, you need to take active steps to control yourself you do Sorry, I mean just as with anything else. I mean I I quit drinking many many years ago over 20 years ago almost 25 years ago and I have bars in my house my office I love to eat at bars at dinner in a bar last night actually dinner at part of a liquor store last night with my brother who's also totally sober and We're laughing about it. Oh, we're not gonna steal any of the booze because we don't drink And it's like you have to get to a place just because something is around you You have to get to a place where you're just not gonna do things that destroy you or your family and one of them is spending Your entire life under the control of other people, which is what it really is. These are all control mechanisms on the internet I mean right yeah You have to carve out like a life separate from that and as you get married man you have to have super strict Own rules and everyone again is so caught up in like committing adultery, which is totally bad, but most people You know, that's not the number one temptation that people face the number one temptation that people faces not having a conversation because Every sentence is punctuated with Something on their phone. Yeah, that is a true risk to your marriage You have to have time for a conversation with no phones No beeps in the background no distractions like I'm listening to you and the other person feels listen to Like that's a way bigger struggle than like strip bars Right you'll find out and I would be a psychopath about and we have no phones in the bedroom We both use them as our alarm. So it's like our on the phone. We'll get in next to the bed No texting in the bedroom I really like that. What's pretty minor? I mean we're not living as monks. I mean I put to the average American They're like holy crap. I can't text in the bedroom like oh my gosh, you know the bedroom has two purposes And I'm not gonna be more specific than that but both are great and you can destroy both with the phone So no how about no? Mm-hmm also dogs we sleep with our dogs so dogs Frank go through All right, walk up next to Frank this morning Frank beautiful dog. Thank you. He likes me because he's sitting here So he's a good he's a good dog a dog But you might pray and out first before we leave is that I'm not saying a parent camera I'm too embarrassed But I hope you will I'll pray for us good is that deal of course awesome Jesus thank you so much for day god Thank you for mr. Tucker Carlson for coming on sitting down and and and share in some wisdom and chatting with us God, but you bless him Keep him Lord, but you bless everyone watching and listening and I pray that everything that was spoken was from you God and that you use it to pierce the hearts of many that we're watching and listening god Thank you for the stay. Thank you for waking us up. We love you Jesus. It's in your name We pray amen