#2073 - Has California Hit Rock Bottom? Part 1
52 min
•Feb 11, 20262 months agoSummary
Adam Carolla and guest Rudy Povich discuss California's governance failures, focusing on performative activism and ineffective leadership. The episode critiques how emotional manipulation and identity politics replace practical problem-solving in addressing homelessness, school safety, and infrastructure projects.
Insights
- Performative activism and lengthy discussions about problems create a false sense of accomplishment without producing tangible results or policy changes
- Emotional manipulation and identity politics are used strategically to control conversations and avoid accountability for actual outcomes
- Practical problem-solving requires doers and builders, not committees focused on terminology changes or symbolic gestures
- Leadership failures stem from lack of accountability mechanisms and absence of consequences for non-performance in government roles
- The gap between stated values and actual implementation reveals that some groups benefit from perpetuating problems rather than solving them
Trends
Rise of terminology-focused activism that prioritizes language changes over material outcomes in social policyIncreasing use of emotional appeals and identity-based arguments to deflect from performance metrics in public sector managementErosion of practical, results-oriented governance in favor of consensus-building and discussion-based approachesGrowing disconnect between public sector leadership and blue-collar work ethic standards of accountabilityWeaponization of emotional responses and victimhood narratives as control mechanisms in institutional settingsDecline of infrastructure investment and maintenance due to bureaucratic permitting and approval processesPreference for symbolic actions over structural solutions in addressing homelessness and public safetyGender-based differences in problem-solving approaches affecting policy outcomes in government institutions
Topics
California Homelessness Policy and Terminology DebatesSchool Safety and Armed Teacher ProgramsGovernment Permitting and Infrastructure DelaysPerformative Activism vs. Practical Problem-SolvingEmotional Manipulation in Institutional SettingsIdentity Politics in Public Sector LeadershipBlue-Collar Work Ethic and Accountability StandardsBullet Train Project FailuresBorder Security and Wall ConstructionGender Differences in Leadership ApproachesNarcissism in Public ServiceCOVID-Era Policy Decision-MakingSchool Board Governance IssuesUrban Infrastructure MaintenanceSubstance Abuse and Homelessness Solutions
Companies
Neptune Society
Cremation and funeral services company mentioned as example of Dr. Drew's family's end-of-life planning arrangements
Costco
Referenced as example of where one could purchase food for memorial gatherings and social events
In-N-Out Burger
Used as metaphor for how discussing problems without action creates false sense of accomplishment
Tesla
Referenced as example of technology that receives software updates, contrasted with government terminology changes
People
Dr. Drew Pinsky
Co-host of the show, currently in Poland accompanying elderly former housekeeper to be with family
Rudy Povich
Guest sitting in for Dr. Drew; comedian and former TV personality contributing to discussion
Adam Carolla
Primary host analyzing California governance failures and performative activism in public institutions
Gavin Newsom
California Governor referenced as example of ineffective leadership focused on meetings rather than action
Elon Musk
Cited as example of builder and doer whose practical accomplishments shame non-performers in society
Jimmy Kimmel
Referenced for organizing elaborate memorial event for band leader Cleto, contrasted with lack of family memorials
Chris Carolla
Adam's mother, discussed as example of person who talked about projects for decades without completing them
Pat Rendell
Former teacher and ex-Marine cited as example of disciplined, capable educator who could handle school safety
Wanda Sykes
Comedian referenced as example of non-traditional person capable of completing high-performance driving course
Quotes
"The conversation is bad. It's bad. You know, it's bad."
Adam Carolla•Mid-episode discussion on performative activism
"I don't know any women who can actually build anything."
Adam Carolla•Discussion on gender differences in problem-solving
"It's blackmail. Yeah, it's fucking blackmail."
Rudy Povich•Discussion on emotional manipulation tactics
"What's the plan? Homeless, whatever. By the way, we'll call it whatever the fuck we want."
Adam Carolla•Critique of terminology-focused activism
"I don't give a shit. He shows up every day and he gets work done. That's exactly what I need."
Rudy Povich•Story about grandfather's hiring philosophy
Full Transcript
Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. You're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. Dr. Drew's board. Well, he's not here. He's in Poland. Rudy Pavich is sitting in. What's he doing in Poland? He had a very longtime housekeeper, sort of nanny housekeeper. I don't know. She was Polish. She's elderly now. Her health is failing. And they, meaning Dr. Drew and his wife, are returning her to Poland to be with her family. Wow. Basically at age 87 or something to be taken care of. Huh. Yeah. That's a Menchie thing to do. Wow. Yeah, Drew's a good dude, and she doesn't want to die out here in a nursing home in Pasadena. She wants to go home to Poland where her family is. Even people in Pasadena don't want to die in a nursing home in Pasadena. It's true. That's what my dad did. Yeah. Yeah. So, but at least those people have surrounding neighborhoods or neighbors and friends that can come, family, come see them. So, anyway, he's doing that. I'm looking at some new trends and stuff like that. We'll get into some different stuff later. But he's walked her back to Poland. He's there. I talked to him this morning. He's enjoying Poland. Great, man. Safe, clean, and nice. Do you have any sort of last wishes? Do you want to be returned to your motherland, North Hollywood, before you die? Yeah. No, I don't have any thoughts. Those are, I don't know, grandiose in my estimation. I don't know. But like I said, my family is not very vast. There weren't a lot of family members. we have you know my grandfather who died who was taken away by the Neptune Society so they just come get you so I don't have any there is no wishes in my family none granted none dreamed of my grandfather was a Neptune Society guy both my grandparents were in the Neptune Society they just pick you up when you die they just take you away yeah yeah now you could pay extra if you wanted to probably go out and scatter the ashes on the open sea and like throw some rose petals or something but that would be an extra cost yeah so you sign up they sign up for the neptune society you know in 1957 it was probably 27 and you just give them the money and then when you die a guy just shows up and he takes you. Yeah. And then that's about that. Yeah. And so there wasn't any they just showed up and took my grandfather and I think they did the same for my grandmother. My grandmother may have been in a hospital but the Neptune Society guy he, they just come get you. Yeah. And then that's that. It's weird like on the backside of life when you think, you know, like if you ever have a dog who passes away and they come and they do it at your house, maybe they euthanize them there and they just take them and then you just keep living without them and it's a big lesson that you learn at a young age like I was I got some trouble as a kid and I had to do community service and my community service was at a cemetery in Chisholm Minnesota and they had a funeral my first day of doing community service and basically the family shows up and there's all these people and they're crying over the casket and then they go to the reception you know to eat bagels or get some lunch and then it's just me and two other dudes standing there with a couple of straps and with a dead body and we just take the coffin and we lower it in the ground and we shove some dirt on it and you go well that's that and you move on there was a john wayne movie called the chism trail and i think they had a theme song oh really chism chism i swear to god there was a Chisholm theme song for that movie. Yeah. Yeah. So my, I don't know, Andrew, see if there's a Chisholm theme song. All right. So I don't know what Chisholm, Minnesota has to do with the Chisholm Trail. No, probably not. The Chisholm Trail in Chisholm, Minnesota is just like old beer bottles and meth needles, you know, whatever. That's all it is. Yeah. So they, all right. So is there a song? Oh, this is when songs were songs. Oh, yeah. Chisholm. Load your hands, sons of bitches. John Chisholm. John Chisholm. John Chisholm. Yeah. Oh. That's a name I'm going to use to check into hotels from now on. John Chisholm. John Chisholm. Is this Lorne Green? It was tough talk back then. Oh, yeah. John Chisholm. John Chisholm. That's great. All right. John Chisholm. John Chisholm. Spit his beech nut in your eye. That's right. Love that guy. So, yeah, my grandfather just left and then my grandmother just left. And my grandmother and my grandfather, we had a little wake for them at my grandparents' house. My grandfather got his about two years after he died. And my grandmother got hers. So soon. Yeah, I know. My grandmother got hers maybe a year or something after they died. And it was just, I think my mom put it together and invited a few of the old friends over and people sat around and everything was, my family was always super cheap. So everything they did was called potluck. They just, they threw a party and got everyone to bring all the food for their party. They wouldn't supply anything. It's just weird. But anyway. And then everyone just shared some stories, blah, blah, blah. And then, but then when my mom died, there wasn't anybody to put her thing together, but her son, her daughter, and her husband, my stepdad. And I don't think any three of those were, like, motivated to do anything. So she's been gone for three years plus, and she hasn't, she's not getting any. Nothing. Wow. No, and then my dad died, and the same people were left behind to decide if they should throw a party or wake or gathering. And that's the son, the daughter, and now the stepmom. Okay. And none of those three were inclined to do anything either. Yeah. So now my dad's been gone for over a year, and my mom's been gone for probably three years, although I don't know exactly what. And they're just gone. Yeah. There is no urn. There's no shoebox with ashes. Wow. There's no nothing. It's like they were never here. And they somehow did not impress upon those who are living enough to motivate to go down to Costco and get like a cheese spread and invite a few people over on a Saturday. There's not. People do more for their dead dogs. Oh, yeah. For your own mom. Well, you have to impress upon the living. Yeah, you're right. To motivate to go out and go get that deli sandwich spread and invite a couple people over on a Saturday. You have to do that. And then also, you have to have enough people who are alive who are like, hey, what are we doing to commemorate this whatever? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, you know, you get a guy like Jimmy Kimmel, his buddy Cleto, the band leader, died a few months ago. That was a 14-hour affair. I mean, that was church. That was Michael McDonald playing live. I mean, that was a slideshow that was two hours long. I mean, that was a packed theater, packed, fully sponsored. I mean, if you can make a guy like Jimmy happy and then you hit that Chisholm Trail in the sky, there's going to be something. Chris Carolla and Jim Carolla, they didn't make that impact on their surrounding environment. I've always said if you get to your 70th birthday and no one has ever thrown you a surprise party, you have made some terrible choices in your life. Not enough people think of you to get together on a Saturday and not tell you and then sit in your garage when you walk out to get something out of the beer fridge and yell surprise. Also, me and my sister are probably the worst two people to be in charge of celebrating your life. That's going to be tough. And my stepmom is just kind of checked out. She's just kind of, we hit her up after my dad died and asked me to get some lunch sometime or something. And she kind of gave the I'm good kind of thing. And I don't know. How long were they married? They were married for, well, let's see. I could probably figure this out. they were married for at least let's see how old am I okay I'm gonna say at least 45 years so they're married for a long time man did you guys get along while your dad was on the planet um my my now the thing about the thing about the step parents that you kind of realize is the biological parent sets the tone for the step parent because a step parent normally is not going to do much more than the biological parent. So if you let's say you have a biological parent and the biological parent is very involved with the kid, you know, and so if the biological parent is like, hey, I'm going to work in the morning woman, but you got to make breakfast for my boy. He's got football practice today you know if that's who it is then you'll probably get a um step parents a little more motivated uh mainly just because the dad's kind of setting the tone you know yeah it's kind of like if if if somebody picks you up in their their car their car and they go oh man this thing's real nice i just had it detailed so i appreciate if you just uh didn't eat any chips or anything in it. We'll do it once we get out of the car. But if they lit up a cigarette and just cracked a beer, you'd go, oh, all right, I'll take a cigarette. They kind of set the tone. So my parents didn't really, they didn't like their kids that much. They didn't take care of their kids or do anything for their kids. So the step-parent kind of stood there and went, oh, what am I doing? If this guy ain't that into it, then why would I be that into it? There doesn't seem to be an imperative here. Well, after my dad had split, my mom's been married three times. I have one ex-stepdad and one current stepdad, both of whom my ex-stepdad I never talked to. My current stepdad I haven't talked to in probably about two years. My dad left, so both of my stepdads had the onus of, well, at least I'm here. Right. But having them there has been more detrimental than if they were just silent the entire— I would rather have them not there, and it would be a better life. I mean, you're also, you're dealing with a person, it's a self-selecting group, who would think it'd be a good idea to marry Chris Carolla. I don't know who that guy is. I say this with great respect and love but I don know a less attractive person than my mom in every aspect So the idea of I going to hitch my team to this wagon I don I don I can I couldn imagine going I like to spend a lot of time with this person because my mom is just, there's nothing good in any department, like whatever it is you're looking for out of a woman. I don't think there's anything there. I mean, other than well it's I mean companionship I guess but more just like a bird would give you companionship just kind of be in the house get a lizard get a salamander just a pet almost just someone who's not going to leave the house who's going to kind of be there I mean she was like you know you could she was a mean person you know sort of You know, she wasn't like a blackout drunk or verbally abusive or anything. It was just there. But nothing attractive in terms of, like, why you would—good reasons to get married. Sure. Not good. My dad was a little better. He was a little more normal. And thus, he got a little more—he got a normal wife, you know? And she was fine, you know? She's a nice lady, and she worked. And both my parents needed people that worked and did stuff because they weren't going to work. They weren't going to do stuff. You know, they needed someone who could do stuff. Yeah. So it was all right. It was just kind of like, I think, like I said, I think if I was a step parent and the biological parent didn't seem to have a lot of interest in the kid, I might just go about my life, too. Like, I don't know that I'd be, you know, pulling them aside and going, listen, I know your mom doesn't make you an omelet, but I'm going to make you an omelet. Like, I don't know. I don't know how good I'd be. I think I'd just take, I would basically, whatever they were putting down, I would just pick up. I would just go, well, I mean, if the dad ain't really talking, then I'm not going to do a whole lot of talking. And I think that was kind of my step parents. They're both decent. Yeah, you also kind of want in a step parent a guy who knows his place to stay out of the way. When, you know, because there's a lot of times I know guys that have step parents and they're like, that's my dad. That's my biological dad was not my dad. This is the guy that raised me. And my girlfriend has three kids and their dad is still very much in the picture. So I just always hang back and I go, hey, man, whatever you need me to do. I'm your buddy. I'm your friend. I'll help you out. I'll give you a ride, whatever it is. But I'm not going to be that guy who steps in because now I'm making it weird between their dad and me and the mom. And I grew up with that probably why I haven't been married and have no intentions on ever getting married is because I watched somebody go through it numerous times. And it ended tragically. Imagine if you just walked down to a 7-Eleven and every time you went, half of your shit got robbed. And somebody was like, every time I go to the store, I get robbed. You would never go to that store. So that's my that's my idea of marriage. of watching my mom go through it three times and terribly every time is not my idea of a good way to spend your life. Well, people are weak. They're sad. There's character issues all over. All right. We'll take a quick break. Come back right after this. Hey, this is Adam Carolla from The Adam Carolla Show. If you care about predictions, you care about props, and nobody does props like BetOnline for years, We've been the home of legitimate sports betting with deep markets, sharp odds, and player props that reward real insight. From kickoff to final whistle, BetOnline gives you live betting, instant updates, and in-game predictions that move as the action unfolds. Plus, elevate your play with BetOnline Casino and VIP rewards built for serious players. Prediction markets follow the conversation. BetOnline defines it. BetOnline, the game starts here. All right. I got a clip. I was looking at a clip when we were out on the road. And once in a while, I see a clip that epitomizes where we're at now. Like it's mostly chick think stuff. And people hate, well, they don't hate it, but they think the term chick think is insulting. I'm just saying women think differently. We get enough of them in positions of power, we're just going to have a problem because they don't think. In a way, it's not think in a good way or a bad way. It's think in a way that can build a bullet train or end homelessness or stop the border. You know what I mean? Like, I'll put it to you this way. I don't know any women who can actually build anything. Now, you go, what's that mean? I know women who are into remodeling or decorating or something. But I know fewer guys who can do it, too. But, like, I don't know any women who can physically build something. and it takes a little bit of that so if you're talking about building a bullet train or building a wall at the border it's nice to have somebody who can build stuff you know like who just has the experience of building stuff um but they don't and so then you go what's going on with this bullet train it's like i don't know what would go on if you just had a bunch of like-minded chick thinkers and include gavin newsom in a place it would just never get done we'd have a bunch of hearings on it, bunch of conversations about it, bunch of talks. I have said, and I used to say to Drew all the time, the conversation is bad. It's bad. You know, it's bad. And she'd go, what's wrong with just saying you care about this? And I would go, it satiates. It's like you coming in to your kid's room and going, the room is a mess. We need to have a discussion, a family discussion about cleaning this room. And then you have a big, long discussion about it. And then you leave and nothing happens. But you felt like we did something. You felt like we had a meeting and we talked about it. And it was sort of satiating. Like we go, we did have a meeting about that room. I know, but nothing got moved in the room. Yeah. The meeting actually hurts. Yeah. The project. It takes time away from the thing that you should be doing it takes time away but it also is like what if you just went look when you're hungry and you're really hungry and you just talk about wanting to get an in and out burger and how badly how good that would taste like an in and out burger if you talk about it for 10 minutes you just want it more but what if you talked about the in and out burger. And when you're done talking about it, you weren't that hungry. Like it sort of felt like you had an In-N-Out Burger because you talked about it enough. That's how it works. You never go get it. You just talk about it. All right. This is a woman of color. I don't know who it is. It's a student. I guess it's California Report of Student Achievement thing. I don't know if this story is. I think it's out of California. But now there's a whole thing too where women and men, but mostly women have figured out that when they tell people that this is problematic and they're hurt and they don't appreciate that they can kind of control the room. Like I always knew it on some weird level that my daughter and my ex-wife would use their emotions to sort of control the room versus me and my son who didn't use any of our emotions so it's like you'd go well you got to go in there and tell them they got to clean up the room but they could freak out on you and then you'd go just leave them alone it's yes it's blackmail yeah it's fucking blackmail and by the way it is no different than playing the race card if you have it if you can play that race card and you know it you'll use it absolutely even if it's Even if you don't know you're using it, you will. Every single time you say to one of these black congresswomen, oh, it's because I'm black. It's like, no, you've been embezzling or whatever it is. Whatever it is you said you were going to do, you didn't do. You did something else, but they always weave it in. Why wouldn't you? So this sort of emotional blackmail. And by the way, I had shitty guy roommates. It was like, I'm not going to tell Ralph to do the dishes. Those are his dishes. I'm not going to fucking get into it with Ralph. He's going to fucking get pissed. I'll just go fucking do the dishes. And then the roommates who agree with Ralph and go, why are you getting on Ralph's ass? Like, that's the other problem is there's people in their lives that agree with them. I don't. Well, yes, but I will say this. The bigger problem, like when I used to work over Kimmel, they have riders and the riders were there for the lack, you know, for the sake of whatever. Let's say there's just 10 riders and they'd have to go out and shoot shit over the weekend. And, you know, Uncle Frank's going to the farmer's market, right? Well, there were a handful of those riders that were divas and pains in the ass and kind of little bitches. You know what I mean? And then there are other riders that are more like you. A little easier. Yeah, like or my son. And the other ones were more like my daughter. At least their former selves or my son's still that way. My daughter mellowed out. But what would inevitably happen is it'd become time to Uncle Frank was going to go to the farmer's market on Saturday. And none of the riders wanted to kill a whole Saturday walking around for free, basically, because they're on payroll, you know. And so you'd go, you know, you'd go, Gus, you're going to go out with Uncle Frank this. And he'd go, I went out the last two times. Tell Tony to do it. He never goes out. Yeah, but he's going to pitch it. Fuck it, Finn. I don't want to fucking deal with that. He's going to fucking tell me. I don't even want to deal that way. So, Gus, you just go. Meanwhile, poor Gus has to go out all the fucking time now because Tony's being a bitch, right? But people learn it. They learn it. And it's not that they learn it. They're being taught it. Don't fuck with me. I'm a fucking mess. I'll fucking have a breakdown in front of your ass. And you'll be super uncomfortable. and then you'll just eventually do what I want you to do or I won't do what you want me to do because of this. And it's a chick thing. They learn it. When you have young daughters and young sons, you learn the women use it fast. Yeah. I mean, all through COVID, it was like, oh, take your shoes off before you come in the house. What are you talking about? Shoes. Oh, just take the shoes off because she's going to have a fucking meltdown. Right? And the moms become enablers because they're like, she's crying, okay? And it's like, okay, I'm wearing shoes in my house during COVID. That's what I'm doing. But no, it's a fucking meltdown. Got into too many of them. And then you just kick your shoes off. Yeah. Because you don't want to fucking deal with it. You don't want to deal with it, yeah. Right, and then at some point, when your son comes walking through with his shoes on, you go, take your shoes off. I don't want to fucking deal with these nut jobs. Your mom's on a rampage. So then you get women of color, and now you get a one-two punch. You get a jab with a cross. You got a woman and of color. And now they feel like they can just fucking tell everybody everything all the time. Like I said, when they get busted, when they're mayor, the governor, they don't even apologize. Yeah. Fuck you. Right. All right. So here's a here's here's Chick Dink 101. And by the way, this is why we're where we're at today. This is this is why I'm sure this is from a blue state. It's a board meeting. Do we know where it's from, though? Does it say it on there? It says it down there. California. All right. This is why California is going to be uninhabitable in 19 months. I have a lot to say, and I will speak plainly. And you may not like it. So hold on. Already, there's fucking five white guys in the back going, oh, fuck. God damn it. Oh, fuck. Oh, shit. This one. Why are people named Joy the least joyous people on the planet? miserable people on the planet. Yeah. All right. So now look out. She's going to speak the truth, everybody. We may not like it, but here we go. I am personally offended by what was presented Oh sorry I sorry I don know what it is On so many different levels Oh no Oh we disappointed Her Highness One thing I would like to see updated is the word homeless. Oh, God. To unhoused. Big difference. Yeah. You solved the problem, lady. No more. I'm not done. I just don't want... By the way, it's always funny when the middle-aged white chick, progressive Karen, is like, Joy, sorry, but we said that because we didn't know. And just go, shut up, bitch. What is the difference, by the way? What's the difference between homeless and unhoused? Why don't you explain to me? So anyway, the white Karen chick, who, by the way, does not want to be called racist, so she's worried now. So she's like, um, um, uh, uh, uh, all right. Here's her explanation. Sorry. Mr. Berman to, to, for this to be on him. That's the way our state of California, that's the language that they use. And that's their reporting. That doesn't mean that's the language we have to use. I'm, I'm, I'm making a statement. And I'd like to have my time to finish. I just want to make sure that he's not. I, I understand that. I'm, I'm, you can, I recognize. Okay, hold on. What the fuck difference is this going to make with the homeless population? She goes home, pours herself a bottle, a nice glass of Chardonnay, and sits down and goes, mission accomplished, because I pissed everyone off and I upset everyone and I took control and I told them how upset I was and how this was unacceptable and there's no less homeless problem than there was. You guys wasted time with the distinction between unhoused and homeless. Like you go, I don't want to call these people carless. I want to call them un-carred. Okay. You didn't get anyone any transportation. This is a big fucking waste of time. This is chick thing. This is all a bunch of chicks sitting around talking about fucking nothing. And no one ever pipes up and goes, what's the plan? Homeless, whatever. By the way, we'll call it whatever the fuck we want. I'd like to call them junkies who are shitting in the street. I'll be kind and go homeless. I was going to say, it's not alcoholic. It's soberless. That's what they are. Everybody who lived in the Palisades was unhoused overnight. But they're not homeless. Yeah, how many times have a flight been canceled at 1030 and the next flight is 7 a.m.? I'm not going to get a hotel. I sleep at the airport. So from now on, I'm going as unhoused as well. Give me the title. I want the badge. The preamble about her being very upset. This is not all right on a whole bunch of different levels. And in the difference between unhoused and homeless. Wait, does this go on anymore? And we got 10 seconds. Let's see. That you're using the information that was given to you that you researched. And I'm asking that it be updated. Hold on. It's not updated. It's changed for you, bitch. There's no updating. There's updating like if you got a Tesla that's seven years old and you're going to get a computer, you're going to get it flashed and updated. There's updates for like technology. You're just making up words you like better and saying we need to be updated for you. No one else signed off on that. Ask a mom whose son is on the streets right now addicted to drugs if updating the term homeless to unhoused has brought him back into the fold. It hasn't. So get to work. Start from the beginning one more time because I love – I am attracted like a moth to the flame to narcissism and a little righteous indignation. I like that. I have a lot to say and I will speak plainly. And you may not like it. I am personally offended by what was presented. Personally. On so many different levels. And by the way, hold on. If you've got a job with the school board or whatever, who cares about your personal anything, right? It's just something with the school. Yeah, I need pragmatism, not your personal feelings on things. Right. All right. Sorry. Go ahead. One thing I would like to see updated is the word homeless. To unhoused. Big breath into the microphone. I'm not done. I just don't want Mr. Berman to... Chew. For this to be on him. That's the way our state of California... That's the language that they use. And that's their reporting. That doesn't mean that's the language we have to use. I'm kind of... It does if you work for the state. That's your job. Absolutely. Yeah. A statement. I'll pause it. Someone should go. You know, they also use the term African-American, but I use another word. My Uncle Chet at least did back in Kentucky. So I'm just going to go ahead and free ball this one as well. As long as we're just going. Yeah. Going rogue on our own words. We're going rogue on our own words. I got a few choice ones, too. There is a scientific term to what I'm talking about. So says Andrew to having meetings and not actually doing I lived with a woman who who thought she ran two businesses, but all she did was lose money. But it was all about meetings. Sure. And everything was about a meeting, but no part of it involved getting up at six thirty and like fulfilling orders or anything. It was just meetings. And that's when I realized, oh, these it feels my mother used to do a lot of like Norma. likes this wallpaper and I like that. But the wallpaper never went up. It was just a bunch of staring at swatches and talking about it. And I realized they liked it. And by the way, it's a sort of feminine thing, but it's also kind of a lefty thing. It's a lot of, we need to reimagine gun ownership. Okay, like what? Oh, we need to reimagine it. You know what I mean? But you want to reimagine what? You have a reimagination for safety and gun ownership and traffic and COVID. You have something, but you have no plans for any of it. You just want to imagine or reimagine. Yeah, they want change but have absolutely no idea how to get there and don't put a plan into place. And when we had a school shooting in Minneapolis, one of my suggestions was, hey, listen, I know this isn't the end-all, be-all solution to it, but why don't we get a couple of the dads who work from home and, you know, maybe once a week they come down. Maybe they sit by the doors. It's not going to solve it, but it's at least something we can start putting into place. And everyone went, how is that going to work? How is that? I don't know how it's going to work, but at least it's something. We're putting something into practice. Well, look, here's the reality. And Andrew could probably find that article because it's somewhere in our archives. And we've looked at it before. It's that L.A. Times op-ed. I put it in one of my books. hmm which book did i put it in uh anyway it's about school shootings and uh look here's what would solve school shootings uh teachers having guns except for they would never do that so they they would never sign off on that they want to they would put a sticker on the outside glass before you come in that announces it's a gun-free zone which just means to whoever's doing the shooting, they can shoot for a while longer before someone returns fire. Yeah. When they return fire, it's always over immediately. The person kills themselves half time or they get shot. Okay. Look, we just had a big school shooting several years ago, Vivaldi, maybe it was. And the cop hid outside for like some long period of time, like an hour and a half or something without going in there. Right. And everyone was outraged because the reason people were outraged is this guy's in there shooting and there's a cop with a gun who's outside and he's letting this guy just walk and have free reign shooting everybody. Right. OK, that's their argument. And everybody on the left would support that argument. They go, that cop has got to get in there and start shooting at the guy because the guy's just walk around freely executing people. there's no bullets coming his way. All right. Well, if the teachers had guns, then there would be bullets going that way. Sure. And, you know, everyone does this thing where it's like, oh, you're supposed to, first thing first, every teacher doesn't have to have a gun. A couple need to have a gun. And if you do not feel comfortable with a gun and you have no history with handling firearms or whatever, then you're out. You have some sort of military history or some sort of law enforcement history. And then you would have to go through a class. I mean, look, I did the Toyota Grand Prix a bunch of times. Every single person that did that race had to go through like five full days of instructional, you know, high performance driving school. You couldn't just show up and go, I'm cool. You know what I mean? You had to go through this whole long thing. And at the end of the thing, anybody and everybody basically could handle their car. Some were faster than others, but everyone could handle it. Wanda Sykes could get around the track. You know what I mean? I would laugh her, but she could get around the track. So basically what I'm saying, I don't know what book you're looking at, Andrew. I don't know if it's in one of them. Yeah, isn't that one? Maybe. It's also in the computer somewhere, I think. Nah, not labeled. I feel like it looked. Hmm. School shooting times. Yeah. Why are you looking in the Koran? That's weird. Yeah. I don't have anything about that. Different book, yeah. But you think it's in that book? Oh, yeah? Okay. All right. We looked at it before. I don't know. Well, maybe we'll get it into the computer. Or maybe do a word search in the computer. Times, school shooting, whatever. But anyway, here's the whole point. Take these fucking guys, if they're ex-military or ex-law enforcement or not, and just put them through training. Yeah. And I'll fucking give them a little bump in their pay, too. and then there's procedures and protocols and then that's it and then if somebody comes on a campus uh they're going to get return fire and that'll be that and then the rights that's sort of the rights version the less version is that's outrageous and then i go well what's your plan they go we got to get rid of guns okay well that's never going to work i don't even know what you're doing to do it and then we'll have another school shooting and then you will be surprised and want to know what's going on. And the only answer is sort of hardening schools, but dudes with guns, other dudes with guns around who shoot the person that is shooting the kids. I don't know what else, how else we do this. We had a dude back in, when I was in eighth grade, he was my social studies teacher. His name was Pat Rendell. It was at Lincoln Elementary, excuse me, Lincoln Middle School in Hibbing, but he went on to become a principal, but that dude was ex-military, ex-Marine. And, you know, he was a dude who walked around and he had like that flat top haircut and his shirt was always well pressed. Mr. Hensley was that way. Yeah. And that dude, we always would kind of joke about. He would have some sort of handgun in his desk. He would hit a button and a bunch of artillery would pop out. And everybody would go, ha ha. And I would always say, that's kind of a guy I want, man. I want a dude like that who can kick a little ass every now and again. Put the article back. Sorry, I'll just get into it. It's called Identity Relevant Intentions. Talking about a project or goal prematurely creates a premature sense of completeness. Am I reading that? Because the brain confuses the social validation of sharing the plan with the actual achievement, releasing dopamine, right, that reduces motivation to perform the hard work. I cannot tell you how many fucking people told me about the book they're doing or getting together their hour-long special or the country album or whatever. And I talked to them five years later. They haven't done any of it. And they get into it again. And I realize, oh, they're getting something out of it. Yeah. Whereas I would get the feeling of frustration. You know, my mom lived. You can put the clock back. Thank you. My mom lived in the San Fernando Valley her whole life in her grandma house And there was no trees or shade or anything It was just burnt asphalt Like our driveway was just burnt asphalt I will tell you the rest of this story right after this. 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Like when you open them, you get a plume of weird chemicals decomposing, you know, a bunch of plastic bleeding out, you know. and she talked about putting a carport at the end of the driveway for like 40 years you know I mean I'm just talking four legs in a flat roof like four four by fours eight foot tall and two by six is going across skinned with some half inch ply and then some rolled roofing or something at a slight angle I could have knocked that thing out in two days sure never would never did it never did Talked about it, talked about it, talked about it, never did it. At a certain point when I got old and I got rich and I was a contractor, I was like, I'll just come over there with my guys. We'll just knock this thing out. And she was like, I want it to match the architecture of the – by the way, the home she wanted to match the architecture of got bulldozed as soon as she sold it. Wasn't hers in the first place, but someone died and left it to her. Then they bulldozed it, so I'm not so sure about the architecture part. And I was just like, you need shade because it's like you're having to put beach towels down because the seats burning your ass because it's vinyl and everything. I mean, these cars just got cooked. The paint, the dash, you know, everything got just sunblasted. And it was brutal. And the cars didn't have air conditioning. So they would just heat up and never cool down. And never did. Never did put that carport there. Yeah. I heard an old story once. a guy would go down to a boat store every day and look at this really shiny boat and he would go in every single day and the salesman would always try to sell them and he would always walk away and then one day after you know a few months the guy the salesman asked the guy hey why do you come in here and look at the boat if you're never going to buy it and he said because if i bought it i wouldn't want it anymore and i think that is a lot with people where i you guys talk about you want to solve racism, you want to solve all this shit. Subconsciously, you kind of don't. Because if you got it solved, then you wouldn't have anything to complain about anymore. And the things that you do solve, you then go on to the next thing. So it's less about the completion of tasks and more about having something that you can complain about. Because that's really your forte. That's your expertise, not actually having a skill to be able to accomplish something. But also when you hear stuff like no humans illegal, like, well, if you're drunk and you're driving and you get pulled over, than you're illegal you know and like no no father should be taken away well if you're drunk and you're driving and you have your four-year-old in the back seat yes you will be taken away and you will be separated from your from your young and yes there's so first off whenever you hear these no person's illegal or whatever their pablum of the day is and it doesn't even make sense you realize oh that's who that person is and we're never going to get any fucking thing done you need it's probably the sort of non well what you really need the guy they hate the most is elon musk and he's the guy who does the most of this right right and which the other thing too as uh as the elon musk of my neighborhood uh as the guy who's always building something and fixing something and like doing something, it annoys the shit out of the non-doers. Because it's one thing to sit around with like-minded imbeciles and talk about nothing. It's another thing when somebody's around you building something that you never end up building, it shames you. And so they really have, like their reaction to Trump or their reaction to Elon, who are really just builders, basically, they're both wanting to build. their reaction is like visceral yeah they hate it and then when he starts talking about well like we talked about before we're gonna we're just gonna send in some people and get this permit process going because you can't do it you don't know what you're doing and they then they get apoplectic because now you're fucking shaming them you know what i mean yeah uh as a gun owning former teacher, I can tell you arming teachers will only amplify your woes. Our woes. Huh. What year is this from? I don't think this is it, but maybe. Does it say the date of it? If you tell me the date, that would help. Schools need to be a sacred place of learning. If the public wants to arm us, they do so. Friding us services help kids. Give us more nurses, psychologists. Yeah, Well, you're going to need more nurses if more people get shot. But arming teachers have no place in the classroom. You want the guy who was hiding outside with the gun not going in. You're angry at that guy for not going in. So why isn't arming teachers? Well, let's just say I don't think this is the right article, by the way. It's in the book, but I don't know which book, but it's in the computer. Oh, 2022? 2022? No, I think this is more like 2000 or 2019. But I don't know. Again, I think we'll just have to label stuff for our computer. We've definitely looked it up way more than once. Getting back to the shame aspect of you being a doer and other people not being doers, you can even look in comedy. The people who continuously write and who are constantly going up and they're trying new stuff. I see comics that have been doing the same material now for five years, and they always say, I don't have time to write. I don't have time to do this. I don't have time to work it out. Really, subconsciously, what you're saying is, I don't think I'm good enough. Thus, I don't find the time to do it. Because if for every joke you wrote, you ended up with another dollar in your bank account, you would find time to be able to go and write. But because you don't think that you can actually pull it off, you go, I don't have the time to do it. That's why I don't go to open mics. That's why I don't write. I just don't have the time. I have kids. I have a job, whatever it is. You always find an excuse as to why it is it never got completed. I agree. And I think a lot of people have a sort of outward narrative about no one's illegal and walls don't keep people out. They keep people in or whatever. Some sort of weird collective narrative. And then they have an internal personal narrative about what they do and how hard they work and how no one ever appreciates what they do. I do everything. You don't do anything. All that stuff. stuff and I think living in the world of invisible money and invisible tasks and invisible everything it makes it a lot easier because I with the ideas in a world of ideas I go on to the job site and everyone kind of knows what they do but they don't have illusions about what they do it's not like they go I do all the work on this job site but you can't because you're just sitting on the tailgate drinking Gatorade like the whole time if that's what you do or you do do I mean like when I work construction there'd be a couple of guys that were a little less motivated than others and a couple of guys that were a little softer than others but there's nobody who didn't work like you're immediately out if you didn't work there's some guys who sort of dug a little faster or clean carpets a little more thoroughly or something but there was no like I do all the carpet cleaning and Ray and Chris and Todd don't do anything. They just were there too, you know? And, and it's very, you don't get delusional about it because everyone is just working, you know, versus when you're living in the world of ideas, then you're the noble one who cares more than anybody. And thus there's some sort of currency to caring more. Even though I'm not doing anything, you know, every celebrity gets up there and they stand with their brothers and sisters in Minneapolis and then they go back to Bel Air. Yeah. And they fucking do nothing, you know. So there's a kind of a caring, an invisible caring part and, you know, a shout. And I guess the right does a pray. You know, we're praying. I'm praying for, you know, I don't think they are. I mean, they're nice words. but when you live in a kind of mechanical world like your grandfather he employed roofers he knew who worked and who didn't work and there was no like what was your grandpa's name rudy rudy yeah and there's no employee who didn't do anything who knew in his heart that he hung more shingles than the other guy did there was none of that there was like either they fucking did it or they didn't do And nobody knew more than your grandfather because he saw them either do it or not do it. Like, all you have to do with blue-collar guys is leave and come back, like, four times on four random days, on four random weeks. And if the same dude isn't working each time, because each time you'll come back and he'll go, oh, yeah, I just had to hit the bathroom. You caught me. I just dropped my bags. You know what I'm saying? Do it four random times. If it's the same dude, that dude's lazy. Yeah. You don't have to sit and watch him. You don't have to hook up a ring doorbell. It's just that dude, when you ran all different times, show up on the job site, and that dude is just not working. That's the non-worker. Yeah. Yeah, there was a guy that my grandfather employed. Ironically, his name was Drew. And that guy, every night at the bar, every single night, hanging out, never had a girlfriend, never had kids, never had a wife, never owned a house. I think we slept in the truck. That guy was easily outside of work the most unreliable person. But that guy every morning at 7 a.m. had a goddamn hammer in his hand. And everyone would go, why do you employ that guy? He's a scumbag. My grandfather would say, I don't give a shit. He shows up every day and he gets work done. That's exactly what I need. That's exactly what we need, not feelings. All right. You can go to Amcroll.com for all the live shows and check out Rudy. What website? RudyPovichComedy.com as well. Until next time, Amcroll for Rudy Povich saying, mahalo. 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