April 10, 2026 Hour 3 Pat Kirwan & Mark Lye

You're listening to Miller and Moulton coming at you from the Floor Meisters Studios Floor Meisters keeping it real. And now here's Mark Miller and David Moulton. Halfway home in Jacksonville in Tampa St Pete final hour of the show Southwest Florida, Punta Gorda, Port Charlotte Venice and surrounding areas live Oak Lake City and surrounding areas. Miller and Moulton Miller and Moulton.com Miller underscore Moulton on X our poll question both Ram and D shambo with big numbers yesterday six over and four over. Will they make the cut yes no or you decide one guy will and the other won't vote accordingly and you can now vote if you are taking us in on our Twitch and YouTube channels. It's time for Pat carwin. He of NFL radio is moving the chains weekdays three to six joining us courtesy of Pinterest stamp on a key West all points in between Pinterest where you can't fake fresh. How you doing. Good. I'm just getting ready. I'm in the Augusta miniature golf tournament tonight at nine. Want to join me because that's Grandkids in going to Congo River there. Is that what's going on. I think I told him we're close to having a miniature golf at Augusta that they got everything else going on over there. So No, that's because if you listen closely, you can hear the birds in the background from where Pat is sitting on his line. I so it's you know Augusta South or Augusta mini is what that says. These birds, however, are not piped in their actual birds in the right. All right, we're less than two weeks away from the draft. Pat David and I I don't even want to call it an argument. We had a little discussion earlier. He thinks the draft starts at five. And I think to a point he's right if Tennessee indeed takes love. But to me, I'm not certain that they're taking love. So I think it starts one spot earlier. I don't you know, we think the two rush edge rush guys are going two and three whatever order they go in. We know Mendoza is going one. So where do you think this draft starts. Yeah. Jake and Hester and I try to go do this intelligently as best we can. It's good going to owners meetings talk to a lot of guys. So we did one yesterday for the first round and guess what I had the first two picks Mendoza's easy. I took David Bailey and I've been taking David Bailey every time bigger stronger more ready to rush the passer professionally. He has more than a one trick pony. So guess what they guess what Jake did and you can make a case for this and he believes it's going to happen. He took love to Arizona the 31st ranked running offense. So that's what he did. That's what he did and that put Reese at four and then I had the Giants at five and One of the things that happens when you're in the real draft room is that you get a little nervous about certain guys and I would think like I took Basically six offensive linemen in the draft yesterday six tackles because I know how tackle they could line them up. You can put a tight end next to him play him early and I took Francis now and know it to the New York Giants. Big 20 year old past his physical he's fine and I had no problem taking a big tackle to the Giants at five. So I think the top four kind of actually always say the same and shuffle them and Mendoza's always one man Bailey love and Reese are two three and four in some order. But I really liked what Jake said about love because their running game is horrendous. And this guy, you know, is a way to set up that part of it. So it could happen. You know, I didn't I've always done it a different way, but he likes it. See in love and the guys are former running back in the NFL. And he understands what he thinks the impact would be. So that's how ours shook out and then in Cleveland I took Monroe Freeling. He's moving up the draft boards because he's a left tackle. Who ran for nine and so many of the other guys are right tackles. You need a guy that's going to left side. I said that's why Freeling is moving up for me. So and sunny styles drop to seven One or two guys drop every year. And if your guys mock draft is how it played out. I really wonder if Tennessee would take recent for Because don't you think that they are they were awful. They were not a good team, but they were not good on offense. And they made a change that had coach who then brings in Dabel and his job is, you know, cam ward. And so I'm wondering if they would, whether it's taken the best tackle or taken a wide receiver. I'm really wondering, would they take Reese at four that if Arizona took love with that really mess up Tennessee. I think it would. But I don't and I you guys don't have to agree with Jake or me. But if I'm Arizona, the love the love pick makes a lot of sense. So yeah, that would stir the pot on Tennessee for sure. So what's the job. The job is to support that quarterback and get him where he can actually Win and there's always two ways the running back in the backfield always helps right you're going to get cover one on first downs and you're going to be able to throw slant routes or you're protecting them with linemen. Those are the two things people do I would not you guys might see this different. I do not like the receivers in the first round. Tyson's medical history forget it. I'm not getting involved with a guy wide receivers with hamstring chronic hamstring it nope. They're on the sideline this in practice all the time. Well, it's interesting fact because I in everybody's got their different top hundreds. But as I'm looking at the one that I that I print out for myself. So I've got something in front of me at all times. You know, they have literally have six receivers ranked in their top 30 players. So not only Tyson, but the Indiana receiver Cooper. The the concept she on from a and M and they even have Boston from Washington in there. We talked with some folks earlier this week who Talked to Antoine Staley who covers the Jets and he made the point of the Louisville kid bell who would have been a first round or if he wasn't hurt. So it in you know, Pat, it's just how it you know, it's how the run on these players goes. It doesn't always matter what your board looks like. Except teams draft for need. And if you write if you're right and I think you are with the number of tackles you talk about it just matters when the run on the position goes right. Yeah, so the first receiver yesterday for us was at 11. So nobody in the top 10 chose receiver. Cooper did make our first round for the first time. He was a tremendous interview. So as he visits places. Now we look at Cleveland. I think Cleveland's had nine receivers in now. So they're telling us what they're trying to do. But I would not up there at six take one of those receivers. No, but it's 24. Yeah, I would at 24. And I think the guys are going to fall down into that area. So we had a bunch of receivers late in the first round. And so and the bell kid is getting a lot of action now because people are starting to I think they've been digging mark and they keep looking around lemon was a bad interview. Tyson's got a medical history with multiple things. He's not even going to work out till the week before the draft. And what is he going to do. He's had everything you can think of ACLs hamstrings. I think collar bones as well. So I don't know about him. Tate slow. I don't mind four or five guys. If they're the big and you know he makes sense to me in a place like Carolina where you already have Macmillan who can get vertical and do everything else. This guy could be, you know, Michael Irvin wasn't a speed burner. So I do like him, but I don't like him up high place like Carolina at 19 fine, but nowhere else, you know, above those things. So it's interesting. And as I said, you tell me either one of you, which one of these receivers is a true one. Because I don't see it. I see twos and threes. Well, it depends on who you talk to because there are some who thinks the Ohio State kids one there are some who think the Arizona State kid is one. All right, but I'm with you. I think of more of them as twos and I'd be comfortable from the jets at 16 taken the one I see is best who's still on the board. But I'm not comfortable taking one of them in the top 10. I am curious how far down do you feel the Ohio State safety Caleb Arnold. Okay, down. So I'm sorry, how far does he fall. He felt a 12 for us. You know, the medical stuff is real. And anytime you hear the word degenerative, get nervous about and your doctors will tell you this is when the doctors come in and say he probably has a four year career or a five year career that scares the death out of you. If the top pick now this guy is a football player. I think we were talking about him a month ago in the top five or six. Yes. And the medical stuff has has banged him a bit. So now it's the length of the contract. Now no one really knows the answer to that. Our doctors failed Ronnie lot. I'll never forget it. So we eventually got him on the team when he was 105 years old but mckeylemon is who we put at the jets at 16. I set with mckeylemon. It was okay. It wasn't terrible. People are bashing his interview. He just seemed and I'll say this. My reaction to him was he was not interested in the interview. You go to the combine. It's a job fair and you're not interested. I don't know mark. Does that turn you off? It turned me off. It would turn me off. You know I'm carrying go beyond doubts. There's two other safeties that are pretty highly rated. The kid from Oregon and the other kid from Toledo and Pat up not mistaken. You talked to the Toledo kid. I thought at the senior ball. I thought at some point you you talked and raved about him but I could I could be mistaken there. Will we see is it possible to see three safeties in the first round. I saw the thing in going to Philadelphia right they lost blank and ship and they kind of let it happen. But and a lot of people thought he's going to go to Minnesota but they need a big they need a big defensive tackle they lost two tackles to cap reasons right whether you like them or not. They're two big bodies are gone. So when we got down to Philadelphia there was the man and then a McNeil Warren landed up in San Francisco. So yeah they three of them made the first round for us. We're going to do the second round today which is way more interesting. Folks are curious that if the Ohio State Safety felt of Cowboys at 12 you had said your first wide receiver went to Miami at 11. Who was the choice. And wasn't mine. It was Jake Tyson. I'm not taking a medical receiver. Nice player. Too many injuries. We can go through all the injuries here hamstrings which is my favorite problem ACL and collar bone. He's missed a lot of time. He is very talented. But no Jake has comfortable taken him. I would not have done it. Miami needs receivers obviously. But that was the first receiver off for us. And I told them before we started the draft I'm not taking one in the top half of the draft. So good luck. All right 30 seconds Pat Mestador where did he go from Miami because I've seen him and my draft slip out of the first round who ends up with the other edge for the Canes. Yeah well we had a conversation two weeks ago about Reuben Bain falling down. Reuben's been hanging in there 8 9 10 11 and that's put a key Mestador at Tampa Bay. I think the guys who do football have studied Mestador and they really like him. The football I talked to D-line coaches friends like that do that for they love the kid. He's Pat Kerwin NFL radio is moving the chains weekdays 3 to 6. We have more time with Pat Mark Lie in 25 minutes to talk the Masters Kerwin and lie on Miller and molten. Thanks for listening. Welcome back to Miller and molten. Text the guys what's in your mind at 21000. That's 21000. And now here's David molten. 21 minutes past the hour remaining moments with Pat Kerwin Mark Lie and a little more than 15 minutes to talk the Masters. Pat joining us courtesy of Pinterest Tampa to Key West all points in between Pinterest where you can't fake fresh. We talked to a Houston Texans guy yesterday works in Houston covers the Texans and obviously the $80 million question is CJ Stroud. Miller and molten got kind of talked ourselves into if you're the Texans and he talked about what it is they need which is probably an impact weapon on offense. Could you argue Pat there are two in this draft. One is the Notre Dame running back and the other is Sadiq and we kind of talked ourselves into if we're Houston with that defense that's under contract for at least two more years. Would we do what it takes to maybe go all the way to 11 or 12. You know do we have to go to the Rams at 13. You know because you think Baltimore is going to take them at 14 if you're Houston. Would you pay the price which could be next year's one for Sadiq. Well I agree that they could use them and they need a guy like that. And I do think you have to get ahead of Baltimore to get them. We went through the tight end. You look at last year. We all know what goes on. I don't care about a new coordinator in Baltimore. What's the quarterback all about he likes throwing a tight ends and there's only one left on the roster. Would I go all the way up there. I don't know that one one would do it. That's the problem. And so if I came back to you and said thanks for the opening offer but you're going to have to give me more for me Baltimore to go all the way down there. Because why would Baltimore for a first round pick I think I'd ask for a one and a two to go that far. That's a long way from 28 up to wherever you want to go 13. And of course you could never make that until the draft. Now let me ask you this question because you love this stuff David. Why why name the teams that should take Sadiq ahead of Baltimore. Like to me there's guys that have to look at Sadiq as a wide receiver. He's so special. Thank you. I mean the Rams. I think Pat I said this. I think he's the only gold jacket potential guy in this draft. I don't know linemen well enough. I don't know edge guys well enough. I'm not smart enough. I don't study the game from that. And you know you and I were talking during the break about Proctors Benchin squat and clean and jerk numbers. I'm not going to go there with anybody because I don't feel unqualified. But on talent. I think he's the only gold jacket guy in this draft. He has a chance to be all of that. And I don't look at him as a tight end. I just look at him as a universal receiver that is going to be scary in a matchups. And he alone is going to force big nickel on the field all the time because you got to every time they open them up and make them the X what do you put now there at the corner what if there's two wide receivers to the other side. Yeah I like the guy and I think the impact he could have in the game could be legendary if he continues to be the way he is. It's not like he had a full college career of doing this. But he is special as an athlete and and I so anyone anyone up there let's go. You know when I when I say things about those wide outs you know if I put Sadiq in that group he'd be the first one off the board. Why would why would I take Tyson with his medical history instead of Sadiq. If Miami wants to receive a why wouldn't Miami just take Sadiq. Well that's why you know we started talking ourselves in we said well you got to get ahead of Baltimore 14 and Mark goes well if I'm the Rams and I go well yeah especially since OK Puka's in rehab and Devante's 32 years old and that during the final year of a contract. So now we got to get ahead to 12 at Dallas and Dallas will they trade out at 12 that's a really good pick blah blah blah so what would you have to overpay to give them. Well then do you have to go to Miami. Is Miami and enough of a rebuild to pass up Sadiq. You know I mean we kind of talked ourselves into every time we opened our mouths we were having to go up another team. Right and let's climb one more time. This is just a statement you can shoot a hole in it. Kansas City has a tiring old tight end who's got one year left and a receiver that may not play again. You tell me what my homes would do with Sadiq considering Travis is done in a year at best and then the receive the other receiver may never play. Who knows why wouldn't they want them. They've been tight and oriented this whole time is Sadiq the only guy that can transfer the talent of Travis Kelsey to the future. All right I want to focus on a couple other guys one I want to know if this guy went in the first round because I've seen him in the first round but you're doing the second round today and that's the detackle from Florida banks and also as you do the second round is the Florida center going to be a second round guy Jake Slaughter are they second round guys or is banks a guy that could slip into the back end of the first round bat. Yeah so first I'll start with Slaughter one of my favorite players in the draft he's going for me in the second round today. I have no problem taking him probably to Seattle at the bottom of the round because if you wait after the second round you may not see him so I love Slaughter a lot so that's where I have him you know someone might grab him before me but I intend to take him at Seattle. At 64 which there were no centers taken in the first two rounds last year and that's fairly typical of how centers go but this guy's a special player. So that's him now in regards to banks a little bit of medical stuff there but I put him at Minnesota the first time he had him this high I put him at Minnesota in the first round they are shallow at the big wide bodies and I had two Viking callers call right away saying I wasn't even thinking of it but you're right. It's scary to see our defensive line since they let the two big guys go so I put banks right in there he's a rare body. Okay tell if you're the Vikings and your priorities are we need a safety and a defensive tackle. Okay who are you going where. Okay you just said I went defensive tackle in first round. Okay so you're then because you're going to miss out on the three best safeties in the draft if you wait till the Vikings pick in the second round I'm curious if it's defensive tackle safety you're going to tackle first. Yeah and I'm going to tell you where I come back in the second round and I'll take Kilgore from South Carolina. He is the he's the guy who replaced E-man Worry. He's the guy who's played safety corner nickel and linebacker. That sounds a lot like E-man Worry he's 210 pounds he's as tough as could be son of a military guy I go right to Kilgore in the second round. You mentioned Cleveland with the tackle and I've seen that before because he's the only left tackle Cleveland at 24 you know when you talk about those receivers Patrick you're going to be the first to tackle. I've seen that that you're not in love with they need one do you see Cleveland going receiver with their second first round pick same thing with Kansas City for that matter. Yeah Omar Cooper went to Cleveland with their second pick and I'm a big fan of Omar Cooper. Yeah I've seen the other one. I've seen him go to the city like I mean are they going receiver with 29 because they need help there they need help in a lot of spots but they do need a receiver. They do but their defense is wounded and not able to play the way they did before. I did not take one there I took TJ Parker there they cannot keep relying on one guy named Chris Jones to do everything they are not very good rushing the passer and it came real clear last year when they played against Denver. And I was at that game so nope two defensive guys now that I laugh when I did it because you never know what Andy Andy he likes what he likes in all that business but Spags he needs to fight for the guys he needs so nope didn't do it. I'm curious if Cooper makes it past the Jets at 16. He shouldn't. There's a lot of people that have the Indiana wide receiver being the Jets second first round pick. He's back Kerwin NFL radials moving the chains weekdays three to six with his new co-host Jacob Hester and that joins us Tuesdays and Fridays during the season courtesy of Pinscher's Tampa to Key West all points in between Pinscher's we can't fake fresh. Pat have a great Augusta mini golf weekend and we'll talk to you next week. Very good guys thank you very much for having me enjoy your day. Mark lie to talk the Masters next on Miller and Molton. You're listening to Miller and Molton and now here's Mark Miller and David Molton. 22 minutes till the bonus hour in Jacksonville in Tampa Bay Miller and Molton Miller and Molton dot com Miller under score Molton on X thrilled to welcome back one of our favorites Mark lie. He played in the Masters in fact he had the lead on Sunday at the Masters in 84 when Crenshaw won his first green jacket. Mark I know I asked you this once before but I don't remember the answer. Were you in the fairway on 10 when Crenshaw made the 65 footer for birdie which started his charge. Yes I was and it just rocked my world in a bad way. And I remember Tom Kite Tom Kite was standing over there. He had a four wood in and I had a four iron in and as soon as Crenshaw made that put it was an earth shattering moment like I have never heard in my entire life. As soon as the crescendo built up to when the putt went in Tom Kite's neck turned beat red and his balls just left his body and he was scrambling around trying to pick him up. Well they hated each other. They were rivals all through Texas College Golf High School Golf Junior Golf. Kite hated Crenshaw. Exactly. And this is this was back when they were both in their kind of prime you know and they stayed in their prime for quite a while but look I love been Crenshaw back then and I did not like Tom Kite. So I was saying OK if it ain't going to be me at least I'm going to be watching the guy that's going to be doing it but you know it's really funny. Dave is that is that so I hit my four iron a little bit fat Tom was done. I mean he was he was grasping at straws and I was two back going at the lat going to the tempo and I hit it in the exact same spot that Crenshaw did. Don't you know that I hit the hole from down there and it spun out and went about eight feet. Yeah I hit the damn hole from the exact same spot that Crenshaw was and the putt spun out on the top side and went about eight feet down to the left. And after I missed that putt it was like OK I was two back now I'm four back and you know so I just kind of like hung on. And so anyway it was it was a great memory but I do remember the earth shattering roar when that putt went in from Crenshaw. Well you got to something that I didn't in a direction that I didn't think it would take me but I do want to ask this because I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Because you know look at for all of us you know hack amateurs sometimes you play in a four some and you really like the guys you're playing with and you have a you have a great day and it's just fun and golf. Sometimes you know because I play with a group of 20 guys sometimes I get in a group and I'm like oh man this is going to be a long afternoon. So I'm curious at the highest level. We like to think you guys don't pay attention to that stuff that mentally you're strong enough that you're just playing your own balls you and your caddy and you're playing your game. How important is it on the whether it's today tomorrow yesterday today or the weekend. How important is the playing partner and how is that dynamic going to help or hurt certain guys. It depends on the frame of mind that you come in there with. I remember you know when Rory was leading he had the big lead and the first two days he played with two of his besties right. He played with Justin Thomas and Ricky Fowler and so he had this lead you know that was just going on. He had I think he played with those same three guys the first three rounds or at least on the weekend. You know they went to two sums and then he played with another really easy guy for him to play with. And then on Sunday he got paired with somebody. I want to say it was like a Patrick Reed or somebody that really made maybe it was Jason Day who was playing real slow. But that affected Rory. It took him out of his you know he had three days of you know blessed golf and then all of a sudden he got to Sunday and this was crunch time and it didn't really fit. Well we have those kind of things you know like my first two rounds that year. David Ogren was the first guy that I played with and I you know I wasn't really a friend of David's and I said you know I'm really not like that. I'm not liking this at all you know. But if you get into your zone and you get into your your game David and Mark you just don't really let that stuff affect you. Now if you're playing with Jack Nicklaus or if you're playing with Tiger I mean whoa. Wait a minute you know this is this takes an extra amount of you know guts and not really knowing that they're watching you. So yeah it does depend you know the guy I love playing golf with the most is Fuzzy Zeller but I never played with the crap when I played with Fuzzy. You know it's funny. I mean he had me loose from the first hole on and that was that part of his deal probably not but that was just fuzzy you know. It's like a guy at me I love playing with this guy but I can't play with the shit when I play with him. So you know there are guys that that you that really turn you on you know on the golf course. One guy I love playing golf with this Greg Norman because man we both cut our teeth kind of like in Australia and then he went over and played Europe. I played in America and then but when he came over to America I just relish the time I could ever play golf with the guy you know I mean he was he was the man. So yeah it all it all depends. So yeah it makes a big difference. You know who you're paired with but it depends on what frame of mind you're in the most. Mark Lie we're talking the Masters and golf in general. OK when you were watching yesterday what struck you. The golf course has some serious teeth this year. This year. Yeah we saw some five a couple of 500 bars but we saw a lot of guys hanging on for dear life. I mean just going over some guys. The Oberg had it three under after the first eight holes and he had a wreck Tommy Fleetwood four under for a while. He had a wreck Justin Rose bogey the last two holes Gary Woodland minus three plus two on the back. Ola Thaubel minus two plus four and then our poor guy Freddie couples. I mean how do you how do you how are you playing so well. And then all of a sudden you make a nine at 15 and then you double 16 and then you double 17 off the charts. So he goes six over and the last four holes you know. So and I know Freddie's older but still I look at some guys like Rob. There's a surprise plus six the Shambu there's a surprise. So so I think that this is this is setting up to be a very difficult weekend for these guys because the course looked like it just had some serious you know teeth in it especially late. Yeah and you know I mean obviously we've all watched and usually it anywhere that course can get you but I think we've seen more 40 30s if you know what I mean then the other way around. And it certainly seemed like yesterday the back nine had the team Mark and that's that's not what we're used to. So I don't know if a guy will go grab it Sunday or a guy will spit the bid on Sunday if you know what I mean. Yeah I mean that's that's very interesting what you say Mark I mean you know we're looking at if you shoot a couple over on the front you're saying OK at least I have the back coming up. But man we're looking at guys making X. I tell you what doesn't get a lot of steam out here and as a player I will tell you if you aren't able to go for the 15th in two and you have to lay it up. That is the hardest third shot in golf. And I saw a lot of players you know knocking in the water there and then knocking in again on the on you know the dropped wedge. But that is a shot that scared the hell out of me and here's the reason why it's a downhill lie. OK. Unless you lay it up far left and you're hitting to an uphill target that's like a ribbon up there. There's no depth to that green. So yeah it looks like a par five and it feels like a par five and then all of a sudden. Wow. It's you know you're knocking in the water like Adam Scott did. Now you've got your work cut out for you just to even make six in my opinion. So Gary Woodland yesterday I mean he had it under control hits. He thought a perfect shot to 15 and he says OK the last place I want to be is short. And so he hits it a little bit long now he's almost in the lake on 16 and makes six on the whole. So I think the way the course is right now. Mark and Dave is seriously firm. And it's going to really make these guys tighten up 14 was a tough hole location 15 a tough hole location 16 front right is the hardest hole location 17 back right hardest hole location and 18 back left hard hole location. So you know I think they set up the course reasonably hard for round one. Usually they kind of like you know it's like the honeymoon you know they don't really come at you with the hard hole locations. But yesterday I noticed they were tough. Well Freddie commented he's rolling through 14 and he had a perfect yardage for his third shot on 15 he said and talking about and you've talked about it forever the margin of error he said I was probably one groove too thin. I think I was one groove thin. He goes and next thing you know I'm going nine five six. Yeah. It's amazing what one groove thin will do or one groove heavy will do at Augusta National what you have to do there and I remember when I was playing well and I played in it three times I never missed the cut. But I just you know it was so serious to have the exact right number if you're short or if you're long forget about left and right if you're short or if you're long if you're not dialed in your your scramble I mean look at Ram yesterday. Wow. Look you know I mean he was all over the place in this place will expose you same way I think that TPC exposes you if you don't have a part of your game you're not going to be able to fake it around Augusta National. I mean the only guy that faked it to me yesterday a little bit was Rory because man he was he was Army golf left right left I mean but he got away with it and you know he's playing on house money now and so what we'll see what he does through the week but he's got an afternoon time today and we'll see we'll see how hard the courses has shaped up and we'll see if they've sucked every bit of moisture out of this group. And I think that's what he's got to do with the green which they can do with that subair system. Well you talked about you know Woodland the shot on 15 and he was so far back there that that was impossible ended up bogey but we talked about it yesterday a bit Mark just to me the one thing that's not talked about enough there is your ability to get up and down and we've got a great chipper he certainly seems to be at Augusta but you're going to miss greens and that's the part of the course that I think is you know underrated from how tough it is is the ability to get up and down because of the ungulation of the greens and if you're missing long and some of these greens the guys who can get up and down and in chipping seems so difficult on this golf course. Well that's why Jordan Spieth in his day was a hard guy to beat you know and he was always a great chipper and putter and Scottie Schaeffler the same. I'm actually surprised that Scottie Schaeffler is doing so well he had it going early and then just kind of hung on at the end another guy that played better on the front then then on the back course of an eagle birdie start won't won't hurt you. But no that is an unglamorous part of the game that you have to have Augusta National I remember going there the first time and I spent more time around the greens practicing than that any other event. It's just the way it is and they weren't standard shots Mark. They were basically shots that you had to be creative on. I mean you had to aim 10 feet right. You had to go uphill. You had to go uphill and then downhill. So you had to be a magician around the greens. Hopefully you're not chipping that much. But there are some key shots that you really really have to have and you have to have a great sand game. You know we watched the Augusta National women's aminer and this what's her name of asterisk. Callie she had the lead. She knocked it in the bunker on 12. You know and and then put two balls in the water from the bunker on 12. So that tournament was over for her. But that's what I feel can happen at any time this week. I think 12 is is nasty. I think 14 is a nasty little hole 15 16. Wow. And then you got to play 17 and 18. So this is going to be a very interesting Masters come Sunday. 20 seconds. Who was your pick. Well I picked wrong. Okay so just to make it feel better I picked wrong. I had ramen to Shambo and Min Woo Lee combined 14 over something like that 16 over. So don't ask me I am not having a good week here. I would be aware of of a past champion here and a scrambler and a great shipper and butter and that's Patrick Reed. I think he's just tough as nails. We'll see we'll see but don't count Sheffler out which I did early in the week. I thought he was playing poorly but you know he makes a liar out of me a lot. Someone on the show pick Patrick Reed. He's the guy who didn't speak in this segment so he's just smiling. Rark is always thanks. Have a great weekend. We'll talk soon. You guys too. All the best. Cheers.