Real Madrid Dropping Points Like Flies

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I think Mbappe was a little over-theatrical. A little over-theatrical. And so it's more dropped points for Real Madrid as the game finished 1-1. It's not an easy time as it stands right now for Real Madrid. Luis Garcia was watching it for us today. He thought it might be a draw, but let me start with you, Craig. The mud drop point is not good news for Real Madrid. Look, it's hard to watch that and make an argument for how Real Madrid are going to win in Munich. But we keep hearing about this Champions League just raises the standard, which it seems to have done certainly in the last game. But that's the standard that we've seen most of the season. In fact, that's maybe a slight bit like the bit that we've seen most of the season. But that's a kind of mediocre standard that we've seen from Real Madrid that's left him in this position that only Barcelona losing really will give them half a chance because there's a classical coming in May 10th. A Barcelona win tomorrow at nine points, you can forget it. And that's because there's been too many of these games. Too many games where teams have defended deep and defended in an organised way. But Real Madrid haven't been able to break it down. And when you saw some of this stuff, and I don't blame Kelly Nimbapu who's having this bit of a dry spell, the chances that he's missing are actually, I think, a lot of difficult chances. From angles, from balls coming over his head. It's not like he's missing sitters. But I look at Vanessa's junior today and there was a one point right at the end. And we have talked to all broadcaster about crosses into the box and better delivery and more delivery. You have an opportunity with a minute or two to go on the left-hand side to put an easy cross in and he tried to beat another two guys and gave it away. So that overcomplication from Real Madrid today was... It happened quite a lot. So just not a good enough performance. But again, we've seen this type of thing at the Bern de Beyo a lot this season. And I think what we've seen from them is because they have so much talent maybe somebody has a wonder strike from 25 or maybe there's just that moment where Mbappe is able to dribble a couple guys or one of those 10 attempts that Vinny had of trying to dribble six guys. Maybe he pulls one off and that's the odd goal that gives them the three points. But a well-organized Girona and Girona even gifted him a goal. So I mean, it is. It's subpar. If Gajaniga doesn't throw that in the back of the net, what are we looking at? And I mean, Gajaniga had a decent game. He makes the one mistake that gives the goal. But yeah, you lose three in a row. Two of those being at home. No. I don't know about Luis, but I just don't see... Having watched how Bayern played in the first leg and they can play even better at home. I just don't see how this Real Madrid side can compete when I see games like this. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. We're going to get to Bayern, but to that point, if you can't see how they're going to do it against Bayern, how can we be convinced that they do actually have a chance at the title in La Liga this season after tonight, Luis? No, I don't think that that is. Tomorrow Barcelona wins and gets the three points. With that gap in nine points, it would mean that they have to win. Not only a classical, but another two in Barcelona and lose another two. There are many things we don't go to that side. We go to what we can see of Real Madrid. Right now, they are so focused on the Champions League games that they kind of forgot that they might have a chance. You don't know what is going to happen until the end of the season. There's still a lot of games to be played. A lot of things can change. But today, I think what we saw on the piece, the intention from Real Madrid, because you could see that there was an intention of trying to do something, but really not determination at all. Benizio Juno was as intense as we saw it against Bayern Munich, and Bapu just moving around, but just hanging there waiting for the ball to arrive and maybe his thing. In the middle of the park, we saw Juve Bellingham because he hasn't been involved, the one who brought the heart and a little bit of the idea in the middle of the pitch trying to arrive in the second line. But really, even Valverde, the Escorra, I wonder who will go once again, as we've seen so many times. Today is like, OK, we are doing just enough to try to go away, to try to get something from today's game because really the urgency was in the last maybe 20 minutes when Arbelar started making changes, but really not the desire of, we need these three points. Everyone is thinking about what is happening on the mid-week game against Bayern Munich. I can understand it, but this is a big opportunity, the miss of getting closer once again, and put pressure on Barcelona because Barcelona also has got a very important game in the middle against Atlético in Madrid, so there will be rotation on the weekend or maybe can draw points in derby against Espanyol. Real Madrid right now, I think, today threw La Liga's trophy away. I thought Stuart Robson and Rob Palmer were going to come to blows in the commentary. Over the very point Luis is talking about, Rob Palmer is talking about Wednesday night, and Stuart Robson, and there's two points here, Wednesday night is a big game, it's a huge game, of course it is, but you've got to take the old cliche one game at a time and you cannot basically say, we're unlikely to win the league, so I'll start to make some changes looking ahead to the game in mid-week because this is the most important one. The more pressure you can put on Barcelona, the more chance that they are going to mess up. But when you give a team that sort of breathing space, the chances are they'll go out and beat Espanyol tomorrow and it'll be nine points, but if Real Madrid had been able to put more pressure on today, it sort of slightly changes the picture. And so I get it, Wednesday night issue, I know that, I know, but when you're in a title race, you have to take care of business first and foremost and then look forward, and I just feel that, I think Luis is touching it, they took their eyes off it and he started to make changes and he took Jude Bellingham off, okay, he's not had much game time and he's probably going to play Wednesday, but he was the guy, as Chute Robson said, that was making those runs into the box and he's well over six feet and they haven't got many players of that physicality, so when crosses are coming in, you want that player. But he took him off with Wednesday night or mid-week in mind and there was a job to be done here which they didn't do and they're basically almost handing this title over to Barcelona. And I think that's one of the tricky parts, when you have your two natural strikers, both love to get wide and come back in. And you don't have that out now, you know, number nine, who's just kind of in the middle and so you then are very reliant on late runs from midfielders to fill that space and when Bellingham left, that space didn't get filled and then you combine it with Vinny making seven cut backs so nobody knows when to run in front of a defender and Mbappe maybe just hasn't quite got back to form after he was out with the knee and so there is some voids there that Real Madrid will need to address next season if they want to challenge for the title. Real Madrid are basically sitting there laying their season on the line saying, look, we'll come good in the Champions League. Now that's a big ask now, bear in mind that it was a hugely exciting first game, it was a brilliant game at the Bernabeu between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich but I think anybody watching it, while Real Madrid had a lot of chances and were dangerous on the break, you'd be hard pressed to make an argument that Bayern Munich will not waste liquor, passed it better, were more coherent as a team and the way they moved around and they rotated, and they have got a natural number nine. Yes they do. Who has had some injury issues and has missed some games and he's not fully fit but still did the business at the Bernabeu so it's a big risk when you're basically staying right. This is what we're playing for this season now is the Champions League and this is what we're going to lay this on the line and almost to a certain extent give the Laleiga title and say, well it's not really as important so we don't have to worry about putting a pressure on us. It's easy to say that when you're six points down and now soon to be nine points down. Where are you on that late penalty appeal for Real Madrid with Mbappe going down, Luis? I've seen so many times that this happening in late penalty for Real Madrid that sometimes we think, oh that's too much. It's a little bit of a torture right there, I think the defender, first time he tried to hold his body, doesn't move, but then he made another thought to kind of stop Killa and Mbappe when he was going through but I think that what the guy just mentioned before was sort of right. I think that Killa and Mbappe does a little bit too much, as you can see. He received a knock, I think he on the face but that's a lot of it. I'm not sure if they are complaining about what is happening on the feet or that late elbow that appears in the face of Killa and Mbappe. I think it's the movement of the player but it's still hitting the face. One of those that the referee called the penalty, I think the BIA wouldn't get involved but because of the referee I think they understood that it was not enough to call it. It was a good call for me. Real Madrid love smoking mirrors, don't they? I'm not suggesting Arbaloa or any like that but the media around Real Madrid, maybe some of the players, certainly the fans, it's smoking mirrors. We didn't win this game because Mbappe should have got a penalty. We didn't win this game because this is the next thing. Where the truth lies when they didn't win the game, as they haven't done a lot of games this season because their intensity and their tempo and their quality in the final third hasn't been good enough. If they lose this La Liga title or they get knocked out of the Champions League, it's not going to be because of refereeing decisions, most probably. A very, very small chance it's that. It's because they haven't taken their responsibility on the field and haven't performed well enough on the field. Everybody can gripe about decisions going their way and not going their way because it happens to everybody. We've touched on it before the show. You've only got to look at the Alesi penalty in injury time that was not even looked at to see that it's not just Real Madrid that don't get the decisions. It's across the board because sometimes people make mistakes. That's a 50-50 call on Mbappe but what wasn't a 50-50 call was that Real Madrid had an opportunity today to turn up at home against one of the struggling sides in La Liga and put a wee bit of pressure on Barcelona and they failed. And they can't keep clean sheets. That's also sometimes if you're not necessarily performing it through your best, can you say, you know what, we can grind out a 1-0 win if we need to. Not have a great performance but find a way to keep a clean sheet and win a match and they can't do that. So buying a big favourites to go through, Luis, have obviously got the advantage in this tie with the second leg coming up next week. What kind of chance would you give Real Madrid to turn that around? No, of course Real Madrid, when they are in Champions League, they always have a chance, they always have an option. They got that mentality and the jersey is very heavy when they arrive to different stadiums against different teams. But sometimes, in most of the times that we've seen this kind of special moments, a special night for Real Madrid, is normally at home when they play at the Bernabeu, that atmosphere that he creates, the stadium, the fans, being there for all the teams is really something difficult. I think what they used to say, 90 minutes at the Bernabeu are really long. That's a fantastic word that they normally say because it's very true. It's very difficult to play during 90 minutes. It becomes like a long day trying to play in there and get a good result. But you have to go to Bayern and you have to try to come back, you have to score at least once or twice if you want to go through against probably one of the best teams in the best form at this stage. So Bayern Munich can rest and then we can play, we can focus on what is happening in that special night. Right now I would say that 80% is in favour of Bayern Munich playing at home and 20% I'm going to give to Real Madrid at this stage because of the history playing in this competition is always special for these players and what we saw today is nothing of what we are going to, or I think we are going to see of these dramatic players against Bayern Munich. Kind of where most of the boys went after the first game, sort of somewhere between 10 and 20% chance, not impossible but maybe improbable. And I think the key for Bayern Munich here is, because they did create a lot of chances as well. And they were slightly wasteful in the final third where Real Madrid's chances were really good saves from Manuel Neuer who performed brilliantly. But I think from Bayern Munich for me the key is when they have possession. Particularly the two centre halves, Paul McCann and Jonathan Tarr, is that you can't be admiring your team's play. Oh isn't this lovely and then all of a sudden it's coughed up and Bapu and Vanessa. And Bapu drips wide and then he's on the run. And I think that was the key for Man City and they completely stuffed it up. Because they had a lot of possession, particularly in the Bernabeu, but whenever they lost it they were all over the place. And I think for Bayern it is, be very, very mindful that you're organising everybody in position when all the attacking is going on. To make sure if Real Madrid win the ball back and it's launched forward, that you're in a very good defensive position that you're going to get there before in the back of Vanessa's because if you're not aware of where they are and you lose the ball, that's where Real Madrid will hurt you. So a lot of the key for me is how organised Bayern are defensively when all their attacking players are going forward. With the backs against the wall, knowing that La Liga could be out of their reach, especially if Barcelona win it this weekend, does that add further motivation for Real Madrid to go ahead? Well, I think further pressure. Yeah, further pressure too. But I think they've been looking at this and thinking that there's no expectation that Barcelona was going to even give them a chance to get back into La Liga race. So I think they put that even more emphasis on Champions League because of that. And I think because of that then slipping up at home puts that even more pressure against a very, very informed Bayern Munich and a team that just seems to have that togetherness. And when you see a side, you know, I'll go back to La Verkouz in a couple of years ago, it's a side that was together. That was, you just saw that unwillingness to lose matches, finding ways late when they're not playing well to get results. And you're seeing that in Bayern Munich, you're not seeing it in Real Madrid. Yeah, they're saying it in Bayern Munich. They're saying that's more together in a long time. Yeah. Thank you so much, Luis Garcia, for being with us. We'll be hearing from Luis across the weekend with more La Liga to come. And we'll get a look at Bayern ahead of that game against Real Madrid as they take on Sampoly on Saturday. You can catch that game 12, 25pm Eastern right here on ESPN+. Are you all at Campaign's lighting of the dashboard? But not the pipeline. That's bull spend. And marketers are calling it out in dashboard confessions. My boss asked for results, so we opened my dashboard for the only positive-sounding metric I had. Impressions. These are last week's papers when the Enzo Fernandez suspension was announced. Real talk ends badly. Bit of M-sign. And now you can check if you already have ESPN and limited as part of your TV package for no additional calls. Visit activate.espn.com to learn how to access your account. Or sign up. Then start streaming in the ESPN app. It's all the ESPN all in one place. Sign up or activate now. And then the Enzo Fernandez suspension was announced. Real talk ends badly. Bit of N-sign. And it's not fair. Enzo acts real cruel, says his agent. Well, Liam Rossini has been talking about whether he will stand by his sanction on the player. Understand you've received or the club have received an apology from Enzo. Although it seemed like you had meetings even before this week. Yeah, I had a really good conversation. Myself had three or four with Enzo. He's apologized to me. He's apologized to the club. And we'll deal with that after a massive game on Sunday. Can I ask what form did you apologize to? Was it a written one? No. Was it a team? Was it a pie to the club over the road? I don't know. It's a serious meeting. It's a serious meeting about something very serious to Enzo. I said from every single step along this way, I'm not questioning Enzo's character. I'm not questioning who he is as a person. I believe people make mistakes and you can't overstep the punishment for the mistake. I think we've made a sanction. We made a decision. I made a decision. And what I want for Enzo is for him to go on here and have an outstanding career. So you forgive and forget, but not forget just yet. He's still not going to play on Sunday? No. He won't play on Sunday. But hopefully after that, he'll be a massive part of the group moving forward. There's still a few hurdles that need to be overcome that I won't go into. But at the same time, I want every player to really, really focus now on a huge running. Sorry to go on about it and we're coming to an end, but is that not shooting yourselves in the foot? Is the best player certainly in that position? No, it's not about it. Football is a team sport. It's not about individuals. It's not about shooting yourself in the foot. There are certain values and cultures that I believe in that is co-believing that makes the team stronger if you get that right. Don Hutchison joining us now. Is too much being made of this, Don, or is it fair what we're hearing? No, I think it's very fair. And I think Liam showed his inexperience there by giving them a too much ban. I mean, the four players that came out and were quite verbal, criticising the football club or the ownership or the model, suggesting that they might want to live elsewhere and play elsewhere. His inexperience has given Enzo Fernandez a too much ban. He could easily last week have given the four players a one match ban and that one match ban would have been against Port Vale in the FA Cup and they would have went through anyway. So I just think he's left himself a little bit open because what if Chelsea get walloped off Man City? Then you've dropped one of your best players. He's talking about the culture, which I understand. But I just thought the easy call and the more experienced manager would have said, right, the four players, one match ban against Port Vale. And then everything would have been forgotten about. Now you're leading into a Man City game, which is big pressure. I don't think I've seen in recent years such a mountain out of a molehill. As Don said, you had Cuccarella basically lumbasting the ownership's inability to run the club properly. And yeah, Enzo Fernandez made a couple of comments here and there. But who doesn't? You'd think he'd run into the manager's office, kicked the door down and had a scrap with him. And I tell you what, and I'm not. Listen, Enzo Fernandez, I think, is a very good player. And I'm not some fan or something like that because when I say I'm on the field, he actually quite annoys me. No, the way that he's antics. He's not the only one, but he's one of several particularly Chelsea players with their antics. But if that was me, I'd be inclined now to stick two fingers up to that manager and say, yeah, you want to hang me out to dry? Yeah, you want to hang me out to dry? Is the bad guy? You know, banning me from this game, banning me from one of the big games of the season. So you're basically pointing the big finger at me to all the fans and media out there that are the problem. And after that, you want me to come back and salvage the season for you after this ridiculous ban to try and save your job? So Rossiniere is shooting himself in the foot by not having him available for the weekend, like the journalist asked. Well, listen, he may win the game, he may get in the Champions League. I don't know. Any manager who does not pick his strongest team out of spite is shooting themselves in the foot. There's no player. In case he was at Tottenham and Donham was at West Ham, Liverpool and I was at Chelsea, you know, in Celtic. If a manager, if I'm going into an old firm game against Rangers or a London derby against Arsenal or something, and all of a sudden you've got the guy that might win the game for you, I'm just giving you an example. Our case, he's got his best cent and a half in front of him and his protection and he's been left out for something so silly. So you're exposing the team. It just doesn't make sense. But he can't walk it back now, right? No, he's done now. No, he's stuck now. Now he would look, now he would lose all respect if he goes there. But don't paint yourself into a corner over something that just seemed like it was not that big of a deal. Look, I played in two countries where I didn't really speak the language. You think you know the language, you say something, you do something, maybe the nuance isn't there. I'll give him the bend for the doubt. But is that really something that you can't just call into your office and say, hey, hey, next time, maybe you don't want to mention this. Maybe, you know, it can be done a little bit differently, but to blow up like this and that we're still talking about it? It was, I think the Madrid comment was the one that, there might be other things, I don't know. But certainly the journalist who, you know, maybe the journalist has been a bit cheeky. Where would you like to live? And he said, I mean, again, I said this a week ago, what's he supposed to say? I can't answer that question. Because they said other than where you've already lived. You're right. And he left, he didn't leave those options there. What's the player going to say? Well, I can't answer that question because Joe Blogs over there won't be happy and I might get banned. So you might say, no, I only want to live in London. You might say, come on. And people take that as he wants to go to Athletic Madrid or Real Madrid or whatever it is. That might be the case. But case is right. As the manager, you pull him in and you say, hey, come on. Hey, we're under enough pressure here already. You're not wet behind the ears now. You know, you're a guy in your mid-20s. You've travelled the world. You know how it works. You've got to be a bit cuter at what you say. But listen, don't worry. As long as you're committed between now and end of the season, we'll sort anything out in the summer if you want to. But as long as you're committed between now and end of the season and you're doing your job in the field, and I know you're going to do your best, then it's fine. But just be careful. And something, a little pep talk like that, rather than making this huge scene in the media and then banning the players. But they're going to continue to ask him about it, right? So how do you think he did now that the punishment's been given? How do you think Racine... Fernandez or Racine? ...he's been answering those questions in the most recent press conference. I just think he's been ridiculous from day one. Yep, I'm either with you. It's the too much ban. That's the strange one. Yeah. That's the strange one. And who at the football club said, right, the number is two. Port Vale and Man City. Who's come up with a two-game ban? The sensible option is to say it's a one-game ban because it was Port Vale. Then it's all just gone. And then, so Fernandez plays against Man City. The strange one is, whether it's Liam Racinha or whether it's one of the sporting directors or whether it's one of the owners of Chirpdin, they said, right, give them a two-game ban. The two-game ban makes no sense. So what does it do now, though, with the... We've already heard from the players speaking out a little bit about their feelings towards this manager compared to the previous manager. Does this cause further problems? Yeah, but hold on. I don't believe Enzo Fernandez was one of those players speaking about Enzo Moresca. I think other players... Yeah, he said there was an identity before, wasn't it, him who started with that one? There was a firm identity before. Yeah, and Cuccarella said something, I think, even stronger. Yeah, he said something even stronger, but it still suggested the differences between the two. I'll be honest with you. I'm sick of a lot of it. I am. When you get to this level of pettiness, at this level of football, there's big business. You know, there's millions... We're talking about millions of dollars here for Champions League places and whatnot. When it gets to this level of pettiness that you have to feel... And there is a big question mark that this is actually coming from Liam Rossiniar and whether he's just the puppet that's fronting up and trying to make it look like it's him. I'm almost sure people above him are going to get this dealt with. Well, but then be stronger as the manager. I mean, Don, when was the last time you heard somebody get suspended for having a little blip in the paper? I mean, we're talking about British tabloids. I mean, we've all had situations that got blown out. We've all been there. Yeah, but we never had a suspension. Yeah, we've all been there. No, exactly. I mean, I remember a time being away with Craig in Scotland and the journalist sitting down and it's quite cozy. And you have a cup of tea in a hotel and it's a little bit chit-chat. And then all of a sudden, they ask you one or two questions and it's nothing major. It's like, oh, how's the family? Yeah, all good. How's life at West Ham? Yeah, playing good football and enjoying myself. Do you keep an eye on the Scottish football? Yeah, keep an eye from a distance. Who's your team? Rangers. All of a sudden the next morning, Hutchison wants to sign for Rangers. Yeah, yeah. It's like I didn't say that. Yeah, exactly. You thought you'd get done. And did you get a two-match ban for it? You can get done. No. And that's not what I'm saying. That's what's so ridiculous about it. Managers know, because they were players, that they were in the same... That's when you bring them in and you say, hey, just be a little more careful. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I didn't even say that. I don't even know how that became the headline. But instead, it's like, I don't know. I'm trying to think of a manager that I worked under that would have... I think if I had a manager that I'd worked under, any of them had pulled me in and said, I'm banning you for two years because you said you wanted to live in Madrid. I think I would have laughed myself under the table. Yeah, 100%. Absolutely. Would have fine have been a bit of punishment to still make a statement. No, I don't think anything. I've not heard the football. I don't even think it warrants that. I think it just warrants a manager speaking to some players and saying, listen. You know what the press are like. Never ever has news and gossip travelled as quickly and as far. And I understand you all talk to people and blah, blah, blah. And you talk to journalists and you're on social media. But let's just be a bit careful and be focused on finishing this season strongly. Because don't forget Chelsea are in the FA Cup semi-finals and they're fighting for this top five in the Premier League. So there's a pretty sensible way of doing it. Not sitting at a press conference trying to make out you're the headmaster at the local school. But he's continually basking. And you're punishing all the kids in the school. But you have to dismiss it. You've added more fuel. And you know, Don said it's kind of shows the inexperience of Rossigno. But then at the same time, you're also in that inexperience. You can be whatever you want in the locker room, in the changing room, in your office. You can be the hard man. But publicly, if you're going to go hard on a player publicly, it better be for something that's worthwhile. And the rest of the players are looking around going, this is what you're going to be the strong man about. And we're going to respect you for this. And to me, it looks like a guy that does not have from the outside. Again, doesn't look like the guy that has the resume. Everyone's questioning why is this guy the manager. And so then I'm doing things to show you why I'm the manager instead of everybody already knowing why you're the manager. And also they're going into this game, which is a huge game, obviously, against a man city side that can, whilst they're definitely second favourites to win the league, but they can smell a wobble in Arsenal. They can smell the pressure. You know, Arsenal have not played well, even in the Champions League, knocked out of the FA Cup. They have not been putting teams away with the clarity that they once were. So there is a chance that this Arsenal team could drop points between now and the end of the season. And this is a city side that I think has been in that position many, many times and has been successful and doesn't have that pressure of going over getting over the line. And I think they can sense that maybe three or four weeks ago there wasn't going to be an opportunity, but all of a sudden Arsenal look as if the nerves are getting to them. Their big players are not playing well. They've got injuries. So City are going to be going after, they're sensing blood. 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Old friendships, buried cash and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life. I'm Juju Chang from 2020 and ABC Audio. Listen now to Bridge of Lies, wherever you get your podcasts. Let's get to some Premier League action because there's a big relegation battle game today between West Ham and Wolves. This is how it all played out. Big relegation battle for West Ham. For West Ham, well, another team's being dragged into this whole battle, which we'll get to in a minute. Mavropanos is going to convert the header to put the hammers ahead. Craig and I were talking as we were watching that first half out of one eye, that Wolves had so many opportunities and then right before the half they concede. Wolves for the free kick and they made a mess of it. So the ball comes out. Summerville, who had a big chance in the early stages of this game as well, tries to chip the keeper here. I mean, that did not, not the chip, but that would infuriate, this would infuriate you if you were caught. They sort of slopping. You know you know me know you and all of a sudden it's a counter attack. End to end. For the words to be more goals in this game, 66 minutes, Wolves turn it over. West Ham break. And Tati Castellana, some Pablo, Linko. And it's Castellana who scores. Yeah, he's just able to redirect it in the end, kind of almost like a tackle. Wasn't this a nice flick, Casey? Yeah, to get him through for sure. And then, see, he just kind of leaves it out there. The two of them go for it, he tackles it and just finds a way. Wolves would then give the ball away straight from the kickoff. And so there's 99 seconds between these two goals from Castellanos. Yeah, I mean this is huge for West Ham, because as Casey said, you know, we were obviously doing really well. But everything we looked up early on, it was all Wolves doing the attacking, but that just changed in the second half. They were so sloppy. And this has just been a huge, particularly at home, for West Ham. Against the last place team, right? I mean, if you're in that relegation fight and you slip up at home against the last place team, then you almost deserve to go down. But West Ham showed some heart. Yeah, Nuno Rivamp in West Ham's four tunes, four nil against Wolves. And this is how things are looking in the table. And we draw your attention to Spurs who slipped into the bottom three with this result. They are in the relegation zone with seven games to go. And Picario is not ready for Sunday's game. This is what we're hearing as well, which means Casey Antonin Kinski could be coming in to play. Yeah, it didn't go so well the last time he was on the pitch. And one of the strangest, you know, situations, you know, I'd seen how to handle, you know, a goalkeeping situation. I mean, yes, mistakes, 100%. Did it look bad? Yeah, 100%. But we're Spurs going to win that game by pulling him at the stage that they did. But now you're asking him, you've done this to him. I know it's a different manager and maybe that gives you that little bit different. But obviously that first 20 minutes for that man, if he is indeed, you know, starting away at Sunderland, that's going to be huge. It is a different manager. Craig deserves it. Yeah, well, and here's the problem for him. If I was Anton Kinski coming in, I'd want to come in and take all the potential mistakes out of the equation by any ball coming back to me. Yep. It's getting launched. Like the old days, Casey and Shaka boot through it, up the field, squeeze up everybody's backswing. And what's the easiest way to do that is to make sure you don't have six guys coming towards you. Well, here's the problem. The new manager, Roberto Dzerbe, is a manager who, like a lot of managers around the game these days, loves to play out from the back, loves it. He wants to stretch the game. He wants to stretch teams. He wants to make the pitch as big as he can. And he wants his goalkeepers, if you look back to Brighton in particular, it was Jason Steele, Sanchez, Verbruggen. They were taking the ball almost on their own goal line in the six yard box. Now, this is the last guy in the planning. A, you want to be doing that and B, he doesn't want to. Who wants to be doing that? He doesn't want me to renew that. We're going to deserve to be sent to him, and I don't know if he is. Maybe he's gone the opposite way. Maybe he's gone, maybe deserved to be sent right a tell what. How we're going to get out of this mess is not overplaying. We're going to be simplistic and we're going to squeeze the game. That's kind of what the sensible thing to do would be, but I don't think he is. I think he's going to talk to the goalkeeper and say, listen, don't mind if you make him this day, but I want you to take these chances. And you think about the nerves of that young man coming in after... After that result today. After the result today. Well, after this result today. Now in the bottom three, the horrendous performance in the Metropolitan and the huge embarrassment of playing. I think he's going to try and keep it safe and keep it simple. Knowing where his new team find themselves right now. I wonder if the manager is sending him. This is what I want to do. I want you to play out from the back, because that's what deservedly does. Maybe when the higher up the table and he's going for something with the team. You would think so, but we'll see. I also found the young man. He's early 20s, he's not 17. Yeah, but he doesn't have 200 games and primarily experience. I don't think... I think if I'm him, I'm taking that responsibility on myself. Even if the manager is asking me to do this. If I don't feel comfortable, it's getting launched. Because he's not going to make an effect his long-term career at Tottenham. Because he hasn't got one. Right, so I think for tomorrow... Risk reward. Is it tomorrow or that game? No, Sunday. Sunday. Sunday for me, if that goalkeeper plays, he's got to take that risk of those howlers out of the equation. Yes, absolutely. And just go against the manager and get that ball launched up the field. If it's a comfortable pass, great. If it's anything over... I mean, if it's not 90% that it's an easy pass, up the pitch. What are you expecting from Spurs, Don, and Deserby? You're going to like this one, KM on comms for the game on Sunday. So I can't wait for that one. We didn't even need to ask. I know, like the boys have said, I mean, Deserby's going to want to put his stamp on what happens from now to the end of the season. There's his stamp, like Craig said, and in case he said, is taking massive chances. You can go back and look at any footage under Deserby when he was at Brighton. It's goalkeeper was playing balls from there. Go line onto the penalty spot, the six-yard box and attracting the pressure and trying to play that lovely, beautiful, purist type football. He hasn't got time. So it's going to be fascinating watching the game, whether he's put his stamp on it and he wants his team and his players and his goalkeeper to play out from the back because that is his style. Or with seven games to go, does he just abandon all his principles and says, right, the most important thing, which is a common sense thing, is do the right thing, win games. And that started the weekend against Sunneland. Looking at the fixtures tonight when I was watching the West Arm game, Spurs and Forrest have got the tougher running. West Arm, I think, have got arsed on their strongest game. Any game after that, you could see potentially West Arm taking a point from the majority of the games. So they're running out of games and now in the bottom three, which will affect confidence. I've certainly been there when your 4-4-5th bottom and a team wins on a Friday night like West Arm have done tonight and a brilliant win and a pressure game that they had to win. And then all of a sudden the Spurs players will be just before they go to bed tonight, waking up tomorrow, prepping for the game in the bottom three. And that is a massive extra pressure on their shoulders. Going to the stadium alike, which is a hard place to go anyway, against the fit Sunneland side, what a test. You know, there's an extra responsibility as well here on the Spurs players and the defenders, you know, not to try and take the easy option and go back to the goalkeeper all the time. Yeah, I agree with that one. Give the young guy a hospital ball where he's under pressure and maybe a bit of a bubbly pitch where Sunneland do press. A lot of their success this year, particularly on, was the good side, but their physicality, their pressing and how they went about. You think about Arsenal who went up there, they really didn't stand off Arsenal. They went toe to toe with Arsenal. So don't take that easy option of turning back and going back to the goalkeeper and putting him in a difficult position. So, you know, I think he can be helped by his teammates, not putting him in that scenario, but as we'll find out, and Don, I'm sure Don will let us know. Yes, of course, because he's going to be on the commentary for that game. This weekend we'll also be seeing Liverpool taking on Fulham. That game is actually coming up tomorrow. And obviously Liverpool have their own troubles right now. These are the predictions from our panel. All of us going for a draw except for Don Hutchison, who is confident for his former team. Why might that be Don? I'm not confident, OK. It looks like it's a relief. The other reason I put 2-1, because, well, it's not, it's an edgy one. I could see Fulham taking the lead. I could see Liverpool maybe taking the lead and Fulham getting back to 2-1. I can see it being edgy, being nervy. It's only because they're at Anfield that I've got them winning the game. And they should have won the game down at Fulham, if you remember, when Reid scored the absolute world he the best goal he'll ever scored in his lifetime. But you're watching a Liverpool team, OK, that you can't rely on. It's three states straight defeats. I look at Villa. I think Villa, upwards, they're going to be the top four. And it's a straight fight between Liverpool, Chelsea, but who's going to finish fifth. And as I said, the only reason I've got them winning the game 2-1, that's because there's a reaction, surely, after getting walloped against Paris. Surely, there's a reaction after getting walloped against Man City when you're at Anfield in your home stadium. Surely, those fans can drive them on to a win. Fulham's got fancy chances though here, yeah. Well, there wasn't a reaction. The trouble is, Don, there's no reaction. You get wallet from Brighton, no reaction. Wallet from City, no reaction. Wallet from PSG, should have been sixth. Maybe five, five or six, certainly could have been. Fulham are a good side. Mark ourselves a very good manager, they're very organised. And Liverpool are just... there's nobody frightened of them. And what does Anley Slott do? He's also in a position. We talked about Rea Madrid today, Wednesday night, Bayern Munich, try to chase down Barcelona. You know, he's already... people are already talking about him potentially losing his job in the summer. That's how bad it's kind of got, how poor they have been. But he definitely will if they don't get in the Champions League. Yeah. Now, whilst the game against PSG in terms of scoreline, they're not out, it's 2-0. It's hard to put forward an argument how Vettino, Neves and D'Ambelli and Dewey and all these, Cavitz-Galer, how they're not going to have a field, they are Anfields. So, isn't it... With Liverpool having to chase it and open up space to their goals. He's in a juxtaposition because he's got a lot of players out of form. He's got one or two injuries. He dropped Moussala, changed the shape at PSG, which smacked of desperation to try and find a solution. And here he has this big game at home to fool him, who are a very solid Premier League team, but he's got this game in the midweek that they're chasing that he probably knows deep down they're not going to win, but there's 60 or 70,000 going to turn up at Anfield, expecting them to put on a show. So, how does he balance who he picks and who he sort of rests for Wednesday and all that sort of thing? He's in a real difficult situation at the moment, the Liverpool manager. We'll see how it all plays out. Another game coming up at the weekend is Arsenal taking on Bournemouth. Everybody agreeing that Arsenal will win this game and there'll be more talk about it across the weekend, right here on ESPN FC. Be sure to join us tomorrow as we look back and ahead to everything that's going on in the Premier League and beyond. Borussia Dortmund against Bayer Levykusen coming up on Saturday morning. Casey will be back with you along with Alexis Nunes. Lots of games going on at that time. They will keep you posted. You can catch that match on ESPN 2. And a reminder that it was more dropped points for Real Madrid as they took on an early game in La Liga against Girona. One-one it finished. Let's hear from Álvaro Arbeló speaking after the game about the penalty claim that Real Madrid were not given. To me, it's a penalty here and on the moon. It's one more, another week, same thing. It's what we have, it is what it is. Yeah? Man on the moon, there he is. There he is, Siddler. Álvaro, what did you make of what Álvaro Arbeló had to say and tell us more that you did here in that press conference, Sidd? Well, first of all, I just love the idea of sending all the referees in the Valle to the moon. That would be a good start. That would be very nice. Obviously, as you can imagine, the press conference was dominated by that possible penalty at the end and then dominated by the game against Bayern Munich in midweek. Questions about whether or not what happened today was a test run for Bayern Munich. So, for example, the fact that Danny Kávaró Hall played the role of Camarvinga in the middle of midfield, where he hasn't always played and Álvaro was saying that he wants more positional discipline from him, not just a player that covers a lot of ground but someone who stays in that place. He said he was pleased with Jude Bellingham, but fundamentally, obviously, the bottom line is that they haven't picked up all three points tonight. He said, he admitted, Álvaro, that it wasn't their best performance, but said, even with that, we should have won the game. And he referred to the refereeing decisions going against him as the same old thing as always. The Real Madrid said, and I suspect I know the answer, the Real Madrid ever talk about decisions that are not given for their opposition or other teams? Guess what, Craig? Guess what? You knew the answer. Of course they don't. I said at the time on the show after it, it seems to me now said it's almost becoming smoke and mirrors. Yeah, he talked about, well, not a particularly good performance tonight, but it seems we're always talking about, a lot of time, we're talking about decisions that haven't gone Real Madrid's way, rather than why the real reason Real Madrid are in this position, that they haven't chased Barcelona, is because performances like tonight, we've seen that far too often this season. Yeah, and I think the important thing, Craig, is that it's not just you that feels like that. I think the important thing is it's what they feel like in this stadium. And look, there's no doubt that Real Madrid's fans and across the media and that Álvaro won't be the only person talking about the refereeing decisions, and in particular that possible penalty at the very end. But if you listen to the response inside the Bernabéuil, even those fans who may well come down here now and say, we've been robbed and we should have won this game 2-1 and all the rest of it, the reaction of those fans to the way that Real Madrid played throughout the game, and through much of this season, tells you that, yeah, they are angry with the referees, yeah, they might well think the referees are out to get them, they may well get involved in conspiracy theories and all the rest of it, but they're also watching their team. And they're watching their team and they're thinking, this is really not very good. And for almost the whole season, it's been really not very good. They're not a good football team, they have some good players, they have moments, the game in mid-week, the last half an hour against Bayern Munich was one of those moments where you go, maybe it can happen. And of course, these fans will still be clinging onto the possibility that they go to Munich and they turn something around, because Madrid tend to find a way sometimes, not all the time. But the reality which they see week in, week out, is this isn't very good. I'll give you one example that really struck me tonight. There was a period in the second half quite late on, around about 70 minutes more or less, where the Bernabell started chanting, etch-a-le-web-us. Now, I'm going to try and give you the polite version of that. That's basically, put your guts into this, show some effort, fight for this. And it's the most, sort of, how do I put this, it's the most simplistic, the most old-fashioned, the most cliche chant there is. Now, that's not a criticism of the Bernabell. For me, it's more that if a team as good in theory as Real Madrid, a club like Real Madrid, if they've reached the point where their stadium is basically reduced to saying, well, go on, try a bit, I think they've got really big problems. OK, let's take a look at the 11 tonight and remind you guys how Abelo has shaped his side up tonight, with Bayern on the horizon and thoughts for Bayern. What do you think we're going to see for that second leg, Sid? What changes will we see here? Right, well, Abelo had said in the pre-match press conference that he wasn't going to use this game to test things, but he very clearly did, in my view, because if you're not using this game to test things, then try when he starts. The only reason to not start trying many is to try something else in midfield, and Abelo admitted it after the game, he said, I wanted to see Camarvingo as a number six. I wanted to see him hold his position, I wanted to see him to be able to close off the space, and so I think what we saw from tonight suggest that Camarvingo and Bellingham play in the middle of midfield in midweek, not Valverde, which was one of the other options, I think Valverde stays on the right, although potentially quite narrow, potentially quite close to those players with the freedom then to either get behind the forwards or get wide. I think we'll see him, I think he wants, if he possibly can, to start Milletown in midweek. I was surprised tonight, OK, if we're looking at clues from tonight, how little we saw of Mendy. Mendy came on, I think we've on 72 or 78 minutes, we have kind of 10 or 20 minutes to go. I thought that if he was going to play in midweek, that Abelo would have wanted him on the pitch for a little bit longer than that, and it wasn't to be. So I think tonight's conclusion is probably in midweek, Bellingham and Camarvingo in the middle, Valverde alongside them, and one other midfielder, which I guess might well be Thiago Pietacz, although it could be Arda Gula. Well, you know, Camarvingo didn't cover himself in glory tonight, and also the equaliser for Girona was a really... and it was only one moment, but it was an extremely poor effort trying to close the ball down, which by the way, he took an absolute pounding from Milletown. You watch Milletown when Camarvingo goes for this sort of half-hearted closing of the ball down, and now you can't have that in the Champions League in midweek in Munich against this Bayern side who will have a lot of possession. You've got to get out to Bayern, you've got to make tackles against them, and it goes back to that phrase that I've got no idea how to say it, that Sid was talking about in Spanish, is that we're at that stage where, you know, there are good players, but the supporters are basically just asking them, look, we know we're not the best at the moment, we know we're unlikely to win La Liga, but just show us a bit of fight. And when you see that kind of half-hearted closing down there, in a game that they had to win today, you have to question that desire, because if I'm playing a game at this business end of the season, and you need to win to either win the league or keep the pressure on, then every loose ball, every second ball, as we call it in the game, you've got to fight for that with your life, and it just doesn't seem to me that Real Madrid are in that mindset. They might be in midweek, they might be in Champions League nights, but certainly in La Liga games this year, you can look at a lot of their players, a lot of their performances, a lot of their games, and question the intensity of their play. And Stephen McManaman said it in commentary weeks ago, Real Madrid, no matter how they're playing in La Liga, Real Madrid will allow you to play, and I think in today's game that's quite a dangerous tactic with some of the talent that's out there, because if you allow Harry Kane, Michael Alisse, Lewis Diaz, all these players that buy on half, say, isn't that right, you allow them to play, they'll destroy you, so at some point you've got to change that mindset and go and try and engage, and they haven't done that often. Well, let's look at that back for, we talked about, Sid talked about the midfield, he talked a little bit about Mendy, Alisse against Fran Garcia. That's not happening. It can't happen. No, it can't happen. Carvajal against Diaz or Nabri, and then maybe switching around at different times during the match, that's going to be a long day. Yeah, surely we're going to see some changes there at the back, no doubt Trent back as well, we'll see how it all plays out. All right, Sid, we're going to let you go home right now and get some rest, because you've got a busy weekend and a busy week ahead, we know that. Thanks so much for being with us and thanks for all your reports. On Football Americas, which is available now on ESPN Plus, check it out every single week. That's all we've got time for in the latest edition of ESPN FC, but Don will be back to join the guys to answer your questions in extra time. That's on the way next, so stay right where you are. We'll see you over on Extra Time. Hello and welcome into the latest edition of Extra Time. Don Hutchison is joining myself, Craig and Casey to answer your questions. All right, let's get the first question. You're getting slammed this week, aren't we? Get slammed with questions or by some things that you said in Extra Time. No, people are taking liberties, they're taking holidays. Oh yeah, there are a lot of people taking holidays. Spring break in the USA, number of people. Is that why it is? Yeah. All right. Yeah. All those with kids trying not to miss school time, taking break. But some of us professionals, you know, we continue on. For our kids are old, it doesn't matter. Yeah, or the two of you. Listen, somebody's got to keep the shepherd floats. Exactly, and here we all are. And if you think we are doing it, you're in trouble. All right, we're both in Baffe and Vinnie embellishing their battles in the box. Does this hinder their chance of winning a penalty? Today's Mbappe challenge could be an example. Yeah, actually, that's a pretty good point. Because referees know of reputation. And the more your reputation goes as somebody that goes to ground easier, the bar gets raised in terms of... I'm not saying that's right, but the bar would certainly get raised when a referee's looking at an incident and he's thinking, is he trying to corner me there? Yeah, and they're there. There's a big head snap. There's two arms up. Yeah. And I think, you know, there's no real reason for it now because, you know, VAR is going to look at everything. And if they see the contact, they'll call it. But again, there's those like today, you know, where we talked about is... The call on the field will always get the benefit of the doubt. If the call on the field is made penalty for Mbappe, it stays. But because of the exaggeration, maybe the referee says, well, I'm not going to call it. And therefore, if VAR shows that it's clear and obvious, I'll come back. It wasn't clear and obvious. No penalty. So the classic example of that was midweek, wasn't it? There was a Pomekano on Benitius Jr. where English referee Michael Oliver gestured after it that there was a coming together. But in his mind, it was very minimal and that Benitius had basically thrown himself to the ground, which is how most people read it. So, yeah, that has got an effect. OK. Early reports say that the thief of Fanfest might not be freed on. How many ways can they try to ruin this world cup? I mean, the ticket prices are sort of getting a little bit out of hand. I'm not sure the last time I checked, I wish they're going for, but I think at the end of the day, I think, you know, bums will have to be on seats. I'm pretty confident or I'm pretty hopeful that the tickets will be and have to be lowered because the stadiums have to be full. Don, I'll tell you how much you're going for. I got an email from US Soccer about having tickets available for the opening game against Paraguay. And, you know, tier one tickets were $5,000 a piece. Wow. For the US's opening game. So there you go. Everybody's getting ripped off here at the moment. And I don't, you know, you go to a game, even that Brazil France game, could you go to that? We're covering it, but Dan went into it, yeah. Car parking, which is going to be the same all over the country, you know, around the grounds. It's more than what a price of a ticket really should be. So. Well, and the hard part too is that the parking is a lot of times inside that exclusionary zone. So they don't, they won't even let you into the stadium parking. So I don't know how they're going to work that. I don't know how you're going to fill some of these magnificent stadiums here in the US, but they're huge. I don't know how you're going to fill them. As Don said, when you're charging extortionate prices. And again, I mean, don't. I mean, look. Yeah, it's too much pressure on the families to try and find the money. You know, in a cost of living crisis, you know, if you're a hard worker and you've got a couple of sons, couple of daughters, whatever, and you want to treat them to a game and you're desperate to take them to a game because it's a family memory, the pressure that they're putting on these families to find the money, which might put them into debt later down the line seems bizarre and ridiculous. And look, Don, I get it for a final, right? But you're talking about opening round games, group stage matches. And you're asking, like you said, a whole lot. And again, I mean, it's and the one disclaimer in that email from US soccer was we have no control over the ticket prices. This is all set by FIFA. So Don, you know, as an American soccer fan, you know, give, you know, US soccer the benefit of the doubt that they're not in control of this. FIFA, FIFA are big into talking about growing the game, right? Yeah. You know, that's why we've made the tournament 48 teams, which I don't agree with. It's over. But that's what they've done. They talk about that. They talk about that's their way of growing the game. My argument would be how is pricing, how is pricing the next generation basically of soccer fans, stroke soccer players? How is pricing people out of going and falling in love and wanting to be that person wanting to be that person in 20 years time or 15 years time? How is pricing people out of that growing the game? It's only growing one thing. You're bank balance. For Mr. Burley, with La Liga doing a retro match day, what would you implement from current football besides money in the era in which you played? Is there anything you like today better than when you were playing? Vice versa. Oh, sorry, vice versa. Right back there. What would you take back from the day? Yeah. Back from the day that no longer kind of happens now. Well, as I said this other day, I don't like going to any big sporting events and everybody stood there with their phones. Living the now. You know, certainly we didn't have that because we didn't have any more. Certainly it was in its infancy. I also like back in the day, say back in the day, feel that we're dinosaurs. We are. I also like the interaction with the referees, which you don't really have these days because it's very standoff. The referees are all, the referees are miked up. Back in the day, the referees were not miked up so they could give you a bit back. So you would give them a bit of stick or a lot of stick and they would quite often, depending on the individual, would give you some back and be quite sarcastic. Yeah. Oh, you're not having a great game yourself, Burley. There's not that interaction now because all the referees, mikes are all recorded for obvious purposes. So things like that, subtle things like that, I think I've started to miss out the game. Don. Yeah, all of what the boys have been saying, I'd like to see physicality return to football. What really grinds my gaze is when I see a player who doesn't back himself to either do a trick or try and get himself out of trouble, just fall over on top of the ball and referees just go, well, that must be a foul and they give free kicks. It really winds me up when I say, that's not a free kick. That's a player just sort of semi-given up, semi-cheating himself by not willing to do a trick or not backing himself. I'd like to see challenges be made again, you know, legit tackles where 50-50 is not obviously, as Craig said, back in our day because I committed some horrendous two-footed tackles and deserved every red card I got. You know, there was a million, you know, bad leg breaks back in the day, not all men, but because the tackles were absolutely crazy, but the physicality has to return. You know, the last time I checked whether it's women's football men's football is 22, athletes on a football pitch, there's going to be collisions. Let the game flow a little bit and let tackles be allowed as long as they're sort of semi-under control. I think for me, Kay, real quick, and I've all harp on it, and we talked about it briefly with the Spurs game and Kinski coming in, is goalkeeper be a goalkeeper. Keep the ball out of the back of the net, clear the lines when it needs to be cleared. If you want your goalkeeper to be the best player on the pitch with his feet and keep the ball out of the back of the net, then I expect every striker to play like Messi, every winger to play like Ronaldo, because you're only doing one thing. You want now the goalkeeper to be best with his feet and the best goalkeeper as well. Forget about it. Let your goalkeeper be a goalkeeper. If you have that odd goalkeeper that is fantastic with his feet, then take advantage of it. But don't ask somebody that is competent to do things that is ridiculous. Let them be a goalkeeper. For Casey, as an American, which would be the worst result for the US at the World Cup, the US men's national team not making it out of the group or England winning the whole thing during our 250th celebration year as a country. Those Americans of us who obviously played a long time in England, there's such a great rivalry between the US and England. Anybody who's been there for a Ryder Cup, for things like that, there's always this great rivalry. It's a little trickier for me because my kids at British Passports, so my kids are British as well. I want, obviously, the Scottish guys. You guys would love for England to win the World Cup. The US has to look at themselves first. 100% absolutely. The US in that group. I preface this every time we would come into a World Cup. Somebody would say to me, should the US get out of this group? I'll say, well, why don't we wait? Let's see what the draw looks like. And then we'll see. Let's go to Brazil, for example. The US are drawn with Ghana, the champions Germany, and a very young Cristiano Ronaldo Portugal. And you tell me, when you look at world rankings and you look at when only two teams went through, should the US have gone through in that group? I would say, no, they should not. Could they? Yes, they did. Brilliant. Go to Qatar. You have that group. Wales, England, and Iran. Now I say, yeah, England should win the group and the US should go through second. I'll put them under that pressure against Wales and Iran. Yes, they should go through that. With this group, yes, with eight of the 12 third places going through, it would be an utter disaster in this group if the US don't go through. But they haven't shown me consistently under Pochettino that it's a given. Do you know what gets me now about this? About the World Cup? And we're going to cover it extensively and be hopefully quite excited about some of the games. But the qualification and the...it's almost like FIFA are making it like the school race where the little kid... The little boy or girl comes last by quite some way, but they get a medal because they don't want them to be upset. And it's like that. I mean, take Sweden, for example. Sweden finished bottom of the group in qualification. And because of this stupid nations league, they're at the World Cup. Now, they finished at the bottom of the group and the word for the group is called qualification. And yet they were given a parachute and a pathway through another tournament to get to the World Cup in which you could finish third. For example, Scotland might only have to be Haiti and might get dropped by Brazil and Morocco and they're getting through. It really boggles my mind. I think it devalues the tournament. It does. It devalues qualification and it devalues the tournament where I'm a big believer in, OK, you work hard to get there. Excuse me. And if you get out of your group, then you've done well and it... And now it's...we're at that stage where I tell what, they're doing it, they can go and have to get that. Yeah, I just...but that's what happens when you... OK, are you thinking exactly what I'm thinking? What? As the lads are chatting there. What? Tell me what you're thinking and I'll let you know. Italy. Italy. No, do you know what I'm thinking? How have Italy not made this? No, I'm thinking... No, no, Don, Don, let's go even stronger. Not made the last three. Not made the last three. If only FIFA could be so generous. Well, I know that, but I mean, like, this one's embarrassing because a million teams there. As they're being to all these teams that are going to get through, that's what I'm thinking, Don. I mean, I just don't know a world where... in the qualifying campaigns I played in, if you didn't... I can't remember exactly, but either if you didn't win your group, you didn't go or if you didn't finish in the top two. Certainly, depending on the size of the group, some groups had four, some had five. If you didn't finish top, you were out. See you on the beach, going your holidays. Or going to a play-off at least in a second. Possibly. I cannot get my head around... a World Cup qualifying campaign where you've finished bottom of the group and you've been ranked rotten. And yet there is a pathway for you to get to the World Cup. I just don't understand the logic enough. All right, Don. Percentage chance Spurs will go down given the West Ham win today. I sort of had a feeling this question was going to come tonight, so... I've been thinking about it. I'm pretty prepped for it. I'm going to say West Ham have got a 20% chance. And I think the 40%ers in Forest and Spurs might go down. So I think West Ham are in a great position. The only thing that's harming them slightly is they've got the worst goal difference, so they can't rely on any sort of goal difference being the extra point. But the win tonight, they've formed the ring. Spurs got to go to the stadium a light. The best they can do there, I think, is a point. Forest play villa. That screams of a villa win to me. Even though villa are coming off the back of Europe where they've tend to struggle. But the fixtures that Forest and Spurs have got, I think they have a 40% chance each to go down. And West Ham only 20%. Great win tonight. I'll tell you what though, one of the greatest stadiums ever to be... For the championship. Gracing the championship, isn't it? It's a bit worrying, isn't it, Don? He's thinking that question might come, so he's got his figures... I've got to get it ready. You know, the questions are pretty... His numbers added up. I'm just happy it equaled 100. Well done, Don. What was your first car, Kasey? My first car? My first car was a 68 Buick Le Sabre that I still have. Wow. Have you kept it all? Well, it looks significantly better than it did when I drove it in high school. That's for sure. It's definitely been one of those things that I've restored over the years. No, that doesn't mean nothing to the U.S. You got a Morris Minor or something? Morris Minor. I mean, nothing to anybody living in the U.S. It was a Ford Capri B-Redge. I remember the old Ford Capris. Wow. Ford Capri... I'll go further. Ford Capri 1.6 Laser. Now, you could get a 2.8... Oh! Ford Capri 1.6 Laser with a big pinstripe along it. B registration. You don't get that here, do you? No. To B-Redge, 82? What a car. No, no, B-Redge. Oh, I don't know actually. I think it was 82. But I got that in the 89. It was a B-Redge, whatever the hell that means. My first was an F-Redge. What about you, Don? It's quite a funny story, actually. It's only funny because everything was okay in the end, but my dad, who was a minor, who was down the mines for 36 years, we didn't know how to go about buying cars when, you know, I was 18 and passed my test. So he said, right, you've got a thousand pound. Go and buy whatever car you want with a thousand pounds. So when I was at Hartlepool, there was a player who used to pick me up in a Volkswagen Golf driver, which was a convertible. Black with black roof, so it was amazing. He used to pick me up. He lived in Stanley, up near Gateshead in Gateshead. He used to pick me up, drive down to Hartlepool, and I didn't know anything about cars, so I said to my mate, listen, I've got a grand to spend. I'll buy your car off you for a grand. So he said yes. We drove down to Hartlepool on the Friday, day before a game, and that was going to be the last drop off. As we were coming back, we were playing cards in the back, and him, the driver, was playing cards as well. He crashed the car, rolled the car, rolled it about five times, and ripped the car off, wrote the car off, sorry. And that was the end of the car buying exercise. And then, you know, we were okay. So we survived happy days, but I lost what I thought was going to be the best car. And then I went out and bought a Ford Escort for a grand, blue Ford Escort. The thing is, you used to think you were the best. 1.3. Oh, that's a good car. I bought mine when I got my first professional contract in Chelsea, which by the way was not big money at all. It was a couple of hundred bucks a week at the time. But it was enough to buy this little old car, and you drove about your local town, you thought you were like a Hollywood actor. What about yours? A little pod fiesta. I actually bought it off. A little 1.3L Ford fiesta. We had Gordon McQueen's daughter's, when it was on the maternal side. And mine was, that was a grand. But if you look back at those cars now, you saw a picture of them, you think, oh, he's smart. Oh yeah, I loved it. It's so berserfer. Yeah, do you have a little name for your car as well? Everybody has a name for their car, don't they? No? Did you, Dad? Car? Maybe that's a girl thing, yes? Yeah. What was it? Jeff. I think the registration was something like Jeff, yes, who was named Jeff. I love it. What's your name for the car, then? I went Silver Surfer, because it really wasn't slick, but we just, yeah, we called it the Silver Surfer. All right, Don and Craig, do either of you eat haggis? I've eaten haggis, but I wouldn't eat it. You would choose to eat it? No. You know where a haggis is? I think I know what it is. What's going on? It's basically the end test times of a sheep, but it's the poor... Is it stuffed with anything? I don't even know, because it's... It's not a very good... I think it's got flavours in there, innit? It's got onion and stuff in there, I think. Oh, great. But it's not a nice taste. It's got flavour in once you dump half a pound of salt on it. Nah, it's not... It's not something I would... Do you want a bit of... Even if you say, do you want a bit of haggis? I'd say no. Don, what about you? It's one of them. Yeah, it's a bit like Black Puddin'. It's one of them where if you go for the full English or the Scottish whatever it is, where it's on there and you go, yeah, yeah, put it on there and it's on the side of the plate and you think, I've got to try it. I've got to taste it, because the last time I tasted it, it was terrible, for I might like it this time, and you taste it and you go, no, still terrible. I remember I'd been at a wedding in Scotland and there were some Americans there, and one of them was almost green in the face in the morning and I said, did he have too much to drink last night? And they said, no, he's just found out what Black Puddin is. I think he'd been eating it. So, yeah, no, so neither of them eat haggis. 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