Summary
The hosts of Too Scary; Didn't Watch recap the 1987 Dario Argento giallo horror film Opera, discussing its stylized murder sequences, unconventional narrative structure, and the film's exploration of trauma and sexual awakening. The episode features detailed plot analysis of the killer's motivations tied to the protagonist's mother, elaborate kill scenes involving crows and creative weapons, and the surreal ending set in the Swiss Alps.
Insights
- Giallo films use dubbing and post-production audio to create deliberately artificial performances that add unintentional comedy and stylistic distinctiveness to horror narratives
- Trauma responses in cinema can be portrayed through euphoric escapism and nature connection rather than traditional recovery arcs, creating memorable and unconventional character resolutions
- Dario Argento's creative vision prioritizes stylistic experimentation over narrative coherence, as evidenced by unexplained plot elements like the bracelet subplot that serve aesthetic rather than story purposes
- The use of animals (crows) as narrative agents and revenge mechanisms creates visceral, memorable set pieces that elevate genre filmmaking beyond conventional thriller tropes
- 1980s horror cinema embraced synth-based scores and practical effects that created distinctive visual and auditory signatures distinct from earlier giallo traditions
Trends
Post-dubbing as deliberate stylistic choice in European horror cinema creating performative artificialityAnimal-based revenge narratives in horror as alternative to human antagonist focusSurrealist endings in horror films depicting trauma recovery through nature immersion rather than psychological resolutionHigh-budget practical effects sequences (bullet through head shot costing 1/8 of budget) as marquee moments in horror filmmakingGiallo genre evolution from 1970s to 1980s incorporating synth music and modern aesthetics while maintaining stylized violenceFemale protagonists in giallo films breaking from male detective traditionUnconventional narrative structures in horror prioritizing visual spectacle over plot coherence
Topics
Giallo film subgenre conventions and evolutionDario Argento directorial style and creative visionPost-production dubbing in European cinemaPractical effects and stunt work in 1980s horrorAnimal behavior in film production (crow handling)Trauma representation in horror narrativesOpera as setting and thematic element in horrorCostume and production design in giallo filmsSynth music in 1980s horror soundtracksFemale agency in horror film protagonistsNarrative ambiguity and red herrings in mystery-horrorSuperstition and theater culture in storytellingSexual trauma and psychological horror connectionsPractical effects budgeting in horror productionEuropean horror cinema distribution and reception
Companies
People
Dario Argento
Directed and co-wrote Opera (1987); known for Suspiria, Deep Red, and Tenebrae in the giallo genre
Daria Nicolodi
Starred in Opera; frequently collaborated with Argento; wore explosives for iconic bullet-through-head death scene
Emily
Co-host of the podcast; shared personal anecdote about meditation seminar and St. Andrews boarding school coincidence
Henley
Co-host of the podcast; discussed opera attendance experiences and theme night cooking with partner Joel
Sammy
Co-host who watches horror films for the group; provided detailed Opera film recap and analysis
Franco Farini
Co-wrote Opera screenplay with Dario Argento
Christina Marsalach
Starred as Betty, the protagonist opera singer in Opera (1987)
Quotes
"I'm nothing like my mother. I'm not like my mother."
Betty (character)•End of film, Swiss Alps scene
"All opera singers are such whores."
Alan (killer character)•During final confrontation
"I'm like the wind. I'm like butterflies. I'm like clouds. I'm not traumatized."
Betty (character)•Final scene in Swiss Alps
"This is a really fascinating depiction of trauma and the way that someone could process trauma."
Henley (host)•Post-film discussion
"They just quite simply don't make them like this anymore."
Emily (host)•Final episode commentary
Full Transcript
This is a Head Gum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those Too Scary to Watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies. And so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we've got some Joll-O today. Oh, some Joll-O. Little teaser. I know you guys have been craving some Joll-O, so I've baked up a fresh batch. Fresh cold batch of Joll-O. But before we get into it, I would like to ask my friends, Emily and Henley, did anything scary happen to you this week? I actually have been meaning to tell you guys this story, and I'll tell it to you now. Wow. Please. And it will, this happened actually like two weeks ago. So now like the shine of it has maybe come off a little bit, but. Well, and also it doesn't, doesn't count. So you're right. Shut up and talk about something else. I don't know why you're even bringing it up. Shut your mouth. You're right. Shut your mouth. The question was. You're right. I should have lied. What was I thinking? No. Okay. So I took this seminar on centering meditation and reflection. And when you walked in the room, you're supposed to pick up like a note card that had a piece of artwork on it. And at one point in the seminar, she asked us to reflect on the artwork and what it made us think about. And so I wrote this whole thing about dreaming. And I was sitting the way back and there was one girl sitting in front of me. And afterwards we were supposed to talk to our partner, like who's sitting next to us about what we wrote about. So I started talking to her about it, telling her about it. And I was specifically, I was thinking of a specific dream I had when I was younger. And she started talking to me about what she wrote down and she was talking about how she's thinking about change and she was in boarding school and she's going to see her friend who goes to the high school in the area and she had, they haven't seen each other in a long time. So this is a literal girl. Yeah. And, and she doesn't know what it's going to be like. And then I was like, oh, what boarding school do you go to? And she said, St. Andrews, which is where I went to boarding school. And the dream that I was thinking of was this dream I had before I went to St. Andrews. That was, that was like basically this really vivid dream I had when I was a teenager thinking about the concept of going to that school because I was switching high schools and I had this dream that made me feel so optimistic about it. Like it made me feel like it was the right choice. It's a nice thing of your brain to do. Yeah. And it was the right choice. And so I was specifically kind of reflecting on that in that moment. So it was so strange to then talk to this girl who's literally going to St. Andrews right now. And I was like, well, that's wild. I was like, I went there too. I graduated in 2008 and she goes, oh, that's the year I was born. And I was like, oh, wow, that's crazy. And then you conjured her. She was very soft spoken, so sweet, so earnest. And not like how when I was that age, I was such a try hard. I feel like I was like trying to be funny, trying to be cool, blah, blah, blah. She was like, none of those things. She was just just herself. I really admire that when teenagers are like that. Um, but she kept like referencing the main thing I want to tell you is that she kept referencing like, oh, that's my mom. Like I'm here because I'm with my mom. And she kept kind of like casually throwing her arm in front of her. And I, this woman kept turning around. And so after this is all over, I introduced myself to the woman who kept turning around when she was doing that. And I was like, oh, I was just talking to her. Like I didn't know she went to St. Andrews. I went to St. Andrews too. The woman was like, who Henley? Who are you talking about? Literally this woman was like, oh, um, okay. And this poor teen girl, this poor teen girl is standing there watching me humiliate myself, introduce myself to a woman who she knows is not her mom. But I thought was her mom. And she's like very soft spoken. So she's not going to stop this from happening. And then I, I very quickly realized in the interaction, I'm like, oh, you're not her mom. I'm so sorry. I don't know why I've like assumed. And then the teen girl goes, no, she's my mom. And then she gestured again. And then another woman turned around and I thought she met this woman. So then I introduced myself to this other woman thinking it was her mom. I'm not getting, I, so I go, I was like, oh, I'm so, I can't, I thought she, but you're not her mom. Anyway, you're her mom. It happened again. Okay. Honestly, this is this girl's fault. This is this girl's fault. And I guess, why were you so compelled to talk to this girl's mom? Well, because she kept referencing, she was here with her mom. And then this like other women kept making eye contact in a way that made me feel like I'm supposed to like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's what the other women are weird. Well, I don't know what was going on. I don't know what's going on. Basically, I just humiliated myself like a few times in the room before finally making it to her mom, who was the woman giving the fucking seminar, the one at the front of the room, giving the seminar. So when she gestured to the room, it was kind of, it was kind of a gesture everywhere. Yeah, everyone here is that this is all my mom. This moment is my mom. I was trying to just embrace it and I was like, I have to lean into the humiliation. So then when I finally did introduce myself to the real mom, I was like, I just thought so many people were you. Wasn't you, I just introduced myself to so many people thinking you were her mom. Neither of them like thought it was funny. They were like, uh-huh. Okay. So, and I was like, fuck my fucking mom. That feeling of like, of, of your, you are digging the hole. You're like, you have the shovel in your hand and you cannot find a way to put it down. That is one of the craziest feelings in the world is being like, I don't want to be holding the shovel, but here I still am. And you, it's like, yeah, I'm really sorry, that's a lot to deal with. There was so much that happened in just those brief moments. I was like, so many coincidences and then so many, um, instances of me making a fool of myself so fast. Anyway, I don't know what to make of it, but that happened. That happened to me and it was a little scary. Oh, whirlwind. Yeah. Truly. Oh, well, you know, I'm going to talk about instead of something scary. Wow, we're all breaking the rules today. I'm going to talk about something so stupid, but so awesome that I can't. I just need to tell my friends about it. And it's the thing is it's not that awesome. It's it is stupid, but I think it's awesome. Okay. So it's been, it's been like a heavy kind of few weeks in our lives. And, you know, I've just been tired and really wanted, but like also really wanting to like spend time with Joel and like yesterday we were like, we wanted to go on a date and like spend time together, but we were just so tired and we had they had like delivered birdies ashes to us in the afternoon and it made us really sad and it was just like a lot. And we couldn't figure out what we wanted to go out and do, but we wanted to do something and Joel was like, not, not connected to this because we were trying to figure out where we were going to go to dinner. He was like, for later this week, I've really been thinking, I really want to make like white person tacos. Like, you know, the kind of exact, I know exactly. And we were like, what if, what if we did that tonight and we made a fucking night of it and we decided to do canteen a night and Joel, we went to the store, we went to the grocery store as a bar, we went to the bar, the grocery store. We got a little tipsy, huge recommend. I love grocery shopping a little bit tipsy. It's so fun. Well, let me tell you what, it's worth it. And two beers, $10. Wow. Wow. I'm talking draft. I'm talking draft. It is just beer and wine. So, you know, keep that in mind. But we go to the grocery store. We get a little tipsy. We get everything we need. We come home. I made frozen strawberry margaritas because again, we are leaning into the theme here Joel made. And I, okay, I growing up, I never had these tacos because we didn't eat ground beef in my house when I was a kid. So like this specific kind of taco, I don't, I literally don't think I've ever had. I've only just like seen it pictured and Joel, I can like taste it. Oh my God. Joel made these tacos. I'm talking yellow hard corn shells. We're talking ground beef. Uh, you touched them in the grumble. Exactly. That El Paso seasoning. Well, yes, we're talking ground beef. We're talking chopped tomatoes, not salsa, chopped tomatoes. We're sour cream, uh, iceberg lettuce, cheddar cheese, taco sauce. And on the side, refried beans with more taco sauce. You guys, it was the best night of my life. We can't, we, after we ate dinner, we just like, we're so happy. We, we just hugged each other for like a minute. And then we laughed so hard for like, why did we just hug? We just, I'm just, the endorphins are absolutely surging through the fucking roof. I've never had a better night in my life. I'm still absolutely floating from canteen and I just, this is just my little times are tough. You guys, this might just my little PSA to just be like, sometimes you go all in on just like the stupidest fucking little night you can think of. And it, it might be the best thing you've ever done. Wow. Emily, you should write a book about theme nights. You can have it. I'm telling you, and the thing is, the theme night was white people, tacos. Like it's, it doesn't have to be, but you know, then you're like, well, we should make margaritas and you're like, well, they should be frozen because that's the vibe and they should be pink because that's the vibe. You know, and it just, it, it, it right. Before you know it, you're hugging on the couch. So just, I'm just going to be thinking about canteen a night for the rest of my years to come. Um, and I hope everybody finds a version of a canteen a night to have for themselves because it's pretty great. And let me tell you what, those tacos are good. I know. They actually are good. Tacos are good. Yeah. I know it's embarrassing to admit, but. Like they're not impressive and they're not, you know, they're, they're humble. It's a humble taco. It's, it's a humble, humble dinner. It's humble and I suppose, depending on who you ask, insulting, perhaps we ought to call it something else, but whatever it is, I really liked it. I really liked it. Um, so I don't know. Joey can be found in the, in the least likely of places. Especially cause you and Joel felt the same way about it. We were, I'm telling you on fucking cloud nine. I mean, just laughing, just having a great time. Amazing. So canteen a night. Um, beautiful. Sammy, I think scary happened to you this week or, or delightful. That was one of the smartest things I've ever heard. Thank you so much. Um, the scariest thing overall is I'm just working a lot and. Yeah, it sucks. It's crazy how working a lot just like makes you dumber. Like I don't have headspace for the rest of my life. Yeah. And so I just. Absolutely fucking nuts. It's really crazy. Like in conversations, I'm like, well, I have nothing to say. I can't, I can't stop thinking about work. Yeah. Um, so I'm suffering from some burnout, but, but it's going, it's going. Okay. I had a, you know, some resting time and that helped. But so I'm going to talk about something real stupid, but it is scary. Stupid and scary. Which is that the other night, um, there was a house centipede in my bathtub. Oh, when is the last time you guys saw a house? And what does that look like? Let's go. It's look it up. It's scary. They're fucking scary. They're big beefers. I don't want to. They're so big. Yeah. This one was fully, fully grown. And I'm like, where did it come from? Did it come from the drain? I think it came from the drain. I hate that. I don't like to think that there's like things down there that can come up. Oh yeah. It seems like it's straight out of a horror movie. Yeah. And it doesn't feel like this should actually creep it up a little. It's freaking me out. They're so gross. It looks like what they do in the matrix. It's like what they put in Nio's stomach in the matrix. Like it's like that. It does. It, it, it, and I just like, I'm pretty good at dealing with like spiders and like, I can, I can catch and release some things if it's on the wall in a way that I can get a cup over it and like I can, but I'm like, I can't do, I can't do that with this. Duncan thankfully took care of it. Unfortunately, this house centipede is no longer on this mortal plane. But I will say like, I, when it, when it comes to nasty critters in my space, I become just the, the, it's the, it's my, the way I feed most into the patriarchy of my entire existence where I'm like, well, that's not for me to deal with. That's for you to deal with man. There's a man in my house who has to take care of these things, knock me, never me. Yeah. I haven't had like such a like visceral lizard brain reaction to a bug, you know, you know, like I was so freaked out. I was like, I can't even look at it. I can't even look at it. You need to deal with it. You need to go deal with it. It's also like where it is, like being in the tub, that like surface. It's so bad. It's like slippy slidey. Oh, slippy slidey. And, and I like looked him up cause I Google like everything that ever happens to me constantly. It's one of my biggest vices. It's just constant, constant Googling. And Google let me know that house centipedes are actually really good and they like eat all the good insects in your house and they're like, it's like, try not to kill them because they'll take care of all the other bug, bug problems that you have. And I'm like, sure, but. But the life problem that I have right now is this guy. Like, who is going to be looking at a house centipede and like, you can stay. We can coexist in this house. Not me. I know that's not an option. Yeah. If you like stayed hidden and I never saw him. Great. Yeah. But, but he didn't. He didn't. And I can see you. Yeah. It's just like, no, it has to stop. It has to stop now. It has to stop. You can't be here. You can't be here. I'm so sorry. You can't be here. I'm really sorry. I wish it wasn't like this and I wish you'd stay in the drain, I guess. Oh, but. But it's out of your hands, you know. Yeah. This is reminding me. Silas is obsessed with this book series. Who would win? Have I talked about this already? No. It's these like animal competition books where in a fight, which animal would win? And it's like, there are some of the nastiest things I've ever seen in my entire life. I am interested in this book. Yeah, that does sound pretty cool. One of them is a Python. A Python versus like a saltwater crocodile. Python. Who would win? And the. Does it give you answers? Yeah, it gives you answers. Yeah, it gives you answers. Python. Yeah, the Python wins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like they. Give me another one. Show them. They like to get the book out. They show the whole fight. So you have to watch the Python like in a book. Oh, wait, I'm. Yeah, no, no, it's not like real. It's like not. It's like, I don't know, generated pictures. So obviously not real pictures, but like. This feels like a strange book for children, but I want it. So fucking violent. It's crazy, but it's also. It's like who fucking gave this book to him? He is obsessed with these books. Then there's Scorpion versus. Like tarantula. There's Scorpion. Great white shark versus an orca whale. Who do you think would win? Orca. Well, that happens. Who kills that? Who wins Scorpion and spider? Who wins that one? Um, I think the Scorpion wins. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's there's the giant squid versus the blue whale. This also giant squid. Giant squid. This is yeah, giant squid wins. This is the only, you guys, we didn't know. We had never slayed eyes on a real giant squid until recently. Is they're aliens? We only knew because they'd wash up on shore. You mean you laid eyes on a real, you mean us, we humans. We humans. Not Henley. Okay. I was like, Henley, when are you laying eyes on giant squid? I only recently did this. You guys have been doing this for years. Me and my family, we only recently laid eyes on giant squid. No, no, no, humans, humans. But we knew they existed, A, because of their, you know, carcasses. But also because of the marks from their fights with blue whales, like whales would get fucked up by these giant squids. They're aliens. And like, can you imagine this is a fight that's regularly happening? Regularly happening. Regularly happening. Giant squid versus whale. How do we define regular? That's all that. I mean, enough for us to like write books about it. So should the episode just be you going through the rest of these combos? Cause I'm pretty interested. Uh, yes. If Salis would hear it was here, he wouldn't let me shut up about it. It's the only thing he talks about. It's the only thing he wants to do. But I'll stop because it's Jell-O time. It's Jell-O. Jell-O. Jell-O. Jell-O. Uh, yes it is because today we are talking about opera. Not the opera, a movie called Opera. Okay. Opera came out in 1987, directed by our guide, Dario Argento. Written by Dario Argento and Franco Farini, starring Christina Marsalach, Ian Charlson, William McNamara, Dario Nicolodi and Urbano Barbarini. Have, had you guys heard of this movie? No, no, but I'm loving your background. Have you ever been to the opera? Has anybody ever been to the opera? I have been multiple times with Tim. Until I put my foot down and said, no more, no more opera for me. I would like to go to an opera house and be fancy and sit in one of those boxes. But I can't say I'm the biggest fan of the music. The seats are like vertical, at least. They're like, don't relax, don't fall asleep, don't fall asleep. It just feels like they're about to tip over into the, onto the stage. Right. But yeah, I don't know. What do you guys think about opera? Well, we're going to get canceled if we say anything bad. Well, like, like, Timmy, we're going to lose our Oscar. I hope you don't lose our Oscar. No, but I'm not, I'm not arguing no one cares about it. I'm not arguing that the opera is good or bad. I think it's, I'm just giving my personal, personal opinion, which is that I don't want to sit through another four hour opera with Tim. And it's not in a language I understand. And it's a style of singing that is. Intense. Yeah. I've went to the opera once as a kid, which if you can believe it, I didn't like it. Yeah, that's fair. But I think I did fall asleep. I do love going to the ballet and I would go again and again and again. Yeah, I love the ballet. This movie did make me want to go to the opera, but now you're saying four hours. I'm like, I don't want to go. They're really long. Is there an intermission? Can you just leave, make it a two hour affair? That's why. Yeah, but not if you're with Tim. It's like, you don't understand what they're saying anyway. Yeah, I won't go to the opera with Tim. I can guarantee you that. Yeah, I took a weed gummy one time and that didn't help. No, that didn't even help. It was not for me. I think that if you grow up listening to opera, this is what I've heard. If it's like something that's in your life more, you're more likely to enjoy it. I'm sure people would feel a similar way sometimes, but potentially about going to like the Philharmonic and just being like classical music. No, right. Right. I really like it. But I also grew up listening to classical music. Yeah, I don't know. I love O.M. I have seen a few times and that I have enjoyed out of all the operas. Yes. Wow. I've seen a lot of opera, you guys. I have seen a lot. So I feel like I can speak on it and really Yeah, you're allowed. with my whole chest say, I'm on a multi-decade break and maybe in my fifties, I'll pick it back up again. I love that for you. Well, I don't know if this movie might help push you in a direction or not. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. It made me want to go to the opera. Okay. I'll happily listen to opera music for a short period of time. Maybe this was the way to do it. So have some opera in a movie. That's an hour and 40 minutes. What's the like short, you know, one-act play version of opera? Well, Lobo M is one of the shorter ones, I think. How long is it? But I don't know. Shortest opera. Because yeah, I don't want people to think I don't like opera music. I do. I'm fine with it. It's just I really don't want to sit. I think it's fine. People can think that I don't really like opera music because I don't. And I'm allowed to have that opinion. I don't really like most music at all. You all know that. Yes. Same. I think I don't. Yeah. There's just quite simply no way I could sit through four hours of really anything. Anything. Anything. But. Well, the Sands of Time is the shortest opera. That feels mostly. Which is four minutes and nine seconds. I feel like, yeah, I'm like, that's not what I mean. That doesn't count. That's a song. That's burial. I mean, I could do that. I could definitely do that. Okay. All right. I'm excited to hear about this. Yes. Opera has a 90% on Rotten Tomatoes, 68 on Metacritic and a 6.9 on IMDb. Nice. Nice. Budget was eight million US dollars and it made 4.737 billion lira. I love it when they do this. Do that math. Okay. Wikipedia is like, you do the math. You do the math. Convert it. But this was Dario Argento's most expensive film to date at the time. I don't know if he made more expensive ones since. As a reminder, other movies of his that we've talked about are most famously, Suspiria. That's his, what he's known for. We've also recapped Deep Red and Tenebrae. I don't think we've done like other, there are other directors in the kind of giallo world. Giallo, for those who don't know, is the term for this like subgenre of Italian kind of murder mystery horror films. There's a lot of. Stylized. Stylized. Very stylized, usually very colorful. And there's some signature things that are in a lot of them, like close ups of leather gloved hands committing a murder. They're usually with like a male detective as the main character, but not this one, which is kind of fun. In my like reading around Reddit about this movie, a lot of phrase that came up a lot was this was considered Argento's last good film. Oh, OK. So mean. This one is crazy, you guys. It's real. I had, I had blast. I think I'm excited. I think giallo films are so fun. Unfortunately, the score is not composed by goblins this time. Oh, Dario Argento famously collaborated with the music group Goblin for the score of the other films I just mentioned, but this one is not not goblins. And boy, do I miss them. The music is still great, but like, yeah, it just this movie came out in 1987. And so it's a little more like 80s music. Yeah. So there's some synth stuff. Um, so we're going to watch the trailer at the end and just get straight into this recap. Yay. Yay. Let's do it. I'm in a constant state of trying to get my life together. And that includes trying to be more intentional about what I'm wearing day to day, you know, less indoor soft pants type of outfits more put together, you know, comfortable, but effortless, that kind of vibe. That's what I'm going for. And Quinn's has been my go to the fabrics are elevated, the fits are flattering and everything just works without overthinking it. Everything at Quinn's is priced 50 to 80% less than similar brands. 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And we hear opera music and see reflected in the crow's eye, the conductor conducting the orchestra and then like see a wider shot but still like just on this crow that's in the rafters of this opera house, calling away singing along, singing along. I was immediately having a great time. I was like, well, I love this so far. We got a bird. We got a bird in the first shot. And we're just hearing the opera singer woman like stopping. This is clearly a rehearsal that's happening and she's like, I can't do this with the crows. Oh my God, Maestro Maestro make it stop. I can't do this. And a reminder for you guys and for everyone and I had forgotten as well that Dario Argento like doesn't record the dialogue on set. I think really ever and say all the audio is done after shooting and so it's like a very bizarre feeling watching it. I remember for Suspiria, I was like, no, no, I want to find the like non dubbed version and I looked for a long time before I realized it doesn't exist. They're all that's how he does sound. It's crazy. So funny to me. Is there an explanation for that? Or it's just, I can't remember. I think it's just his preference. I think he was like, it's crazy. It just feels like so much work. I know. It's like they're saying the words on set. You could get them then. Get them first time. You could get them then. At least try. Yeah. So all of it adds like a level of comedy to all of the performances because it just is so silly. So eventually this opera singer, her name is Mara. She's had it. She can't go any further with these crows. We hear there are other crows in there as well. We'll find out that they're doing a production of Macbeth. So the crows are part of it and she can't stand them. She throws her shoe at this crow. No. Crows are really smart. Don't antagonize a crow. I really want to crow friend. I feel like I want to form a bond with one by feeding it over time and showing that I'm a good kind person. And as she's like storming out, she says to the director, this isn't one of your movies. This is the opera. Like I can't work like this. Director's name is Marco and he threw me off at first. He looks like too modern for this movie. But I actually didn't know the movie came out in 1987. It makes a little more sense knowing it was 87. I thought it was in the 70s like his some of his other films. He looks like he for Sutherland in The Lost Boys. Yeah. He's like bleach, blonde hair, leather jacket. He really threw me. But apparently Dario Argento was hired to direct an opera and tried to bring in all these film elements like lasers. And he just had like very big ideas and he eventually got fired or decided not to do it because they weren't able to align on the creative vision. And so this character is very much based on Dario Argento's personal experience. So Mara storms out of the opera house and is immediately hit by a car. Oh my gosh. Not at full speed. She survives, but she breaks her leg and is her pro driving it. We didn't get a look at that driver. I bet. Yeah, it's three crows in a in a coach. Three crows. Three just three. Three crows in a full human's eyes. It doesn't fit. And so we hear some of the stage hands saying Mara, whatever last name is has been hit by a car. We'll need the understudy. We need the understudy. Cut to a woman at home in her bed listening to opera music. When the phone rings and we hear a voice saying, hello Betty, tonight you'll make your debut as Lady Macbeth. She says, what? Who is this? Who's speaking? He says, aren't you happy Betty? And then hangs up. She's thinks it's a practical joke. But just then her agent walks into her house somehow right into her bedroom. And gives her the news. We need the understudy. You're going to be playing the part of Lady Macbeth tonight. Isn't this so exciting? Betty is immediately crying. She's upset because she's saying I'm too young for the role. My voice is not. It's not like I can't hit the notes yet. I'm too young for this particular. She's really nervous that she's not going to perform well. And she says, and Lady Macbeth is really unlucky. I wish it wasn't Macbeth. This is not like this. Not like this. Not like this. We also somewhere in here see she has like a vent in her room like an air vent. And we see like shadow moving behind it. Someone's in those vents. It is so funny that Macbeth has like the theater trope of being unlucky. Like in the theater world, you only refer to it as the Scottish play. You don't say the name. You can't say the name Macbeth in a theater. It's unlucky. Which is like superstitions are fun. It is fun. It's like, we're all agreeing to be like a little bit silly about this one. And the theater is just spooky. It's kind of like a spooky place. So then like kind of everybody involved with the play is also in her bedroom. Don't know how these people are getting in, but they're just storming in. Everyone's excited, giving her the good news. Oh, are you, are you so excited to play Lady Macbeth tonight? Is her bedroom like backstage? Nope. It's pretty, it's pretty hard to get to. I think she's in a locked building at like the top floor and her bedroom is in the back of her house. I really was just like, I have her all these people getting in here. And why? It could be a phone call. She is kind of whispering with her, her agent on the side, like I'm feeling really nervous. Macbeth is bad luck. Macbeth is bad luck. She's like, don't let the director hear you say that. Just then director. He was Sutherland is, comes out of absolutely nowhere. We didn't have eyes on him before and he basically like appears behind her agent and is like, did I hear you say Macbeth is bad luck? Oh my God, is this a comedy? I mean, it's really funny. Yeah, I don't think it's intentionally funny. Parts of it are intentionally funny, but it's, it's, it's great. It's a blast. Highly recommend. And he's reassuring her it's not bad luck. Not bad luck to me. It's going to be great. You're going to do great. You're going to be famous. All your dreams are going to come true and nothing bad is ever going to happen. We're going to live forever. But it's, we got to move fast because the opera is tonight. So she's whisked away to opening night, I believe of, of Macbeth, Scottish play. And this opera house, absolutely gorgeous. We're getting our first like real good look at it. Good Lord. Yeah. I mean, I guess this is why I want to go to the opera. Like you said, Emily, I want to be sitting in these fun little. Yeah, I want to sit, I want to sit in here. Yeah. For about 15. I could do an hour. I could do an hour, but that's it. An hour with a break in the middle. Yeah. And snacks. I hope there's snacks. Yeah, there's got to be some snacks. So the sheets performing or seeing, she's, she's, she's nailing it. She's knocking it out of the park. She had nothing to be worried about. And there we're seeing now a POV shot through the empty halls. Everyone's in their seats, except for who is this now? Somebody's not where they should be. And we see those black leather gloves coming into frame, opening a door, going into one of the, one of the seats. And we see the POV on Betty performing from like a high up box seat. And here little whisper, you finally returned similar to the one we heard on the phone call. Is it a woman's voice? No, it's my voice is a woman's voice. Okay. Okay. Sammy said that. That was Sammy. I thought you were doing the ventriloquism thing that he does. Oh, yeah. No, it was Sammy the whole time. And then we get some like confusing shots that are, it's hard to tell at first if they're happening concurrently or if they're flashbacks or dreams or something. But we get some kind of out of nowhere shots of a woman being chased down a hallway and then being killed. And there's, we see in like a reflection, another woman in the room kind of blank faced watching this. We don't know what to make of that yet. And then back to this box seat area where the killer is, we see POV turning to, as someone else enters this box seat and says, who are you? You're not supposed to be in here. This is like a man. He's like, this is for stage personnel only. And we see those leather gloved hands grab him by the throat in the commotion. They knock off some, some of the lighting, like some big stage lights that crash and fall and it disrupts the performance, obviously. And so a hush falls on the audience, but they're all just looking at this crashed light. They don't see in the box that the killer grabs this guy and like puts the back of his neck on the coat hook in there. A pretty gnarly death and like kind of slams it a few times. So he's getting like stabbed in the back of the neck. He dies, obviously. Meanwhile, the director and some of the other like stage hands are dealing with the light directors. Name is Marco. I can't remember if I said that Marco tells Betty, like it's okay. Like keep going. Like the, it's just a light. It's okay. So they pick back up with the music and they, they, they finish the opera without knowing that someone has just been killed. Betty has absolutely crushed standing ovation. Oh my God. Immediately everyone's like, well, your star is born. She is just being everyone wants her autograph. They're calling her name. Immediate fame. We cut to a little girl watching on watching this on television, a live broadcast of the opera, it seems. Okay, sure. And the little girl says like, well done, Betty. You're so beautiful. Wow. Again, not really sure what this is about. And we see a shot then of Mara watching the broadcast as well in her cast. This is the former lead saying something like mean that was supposed to be me. It was supposed to be me throwing a glass at the TV, that sort of thing. So Betty goes to her dressing room when someone knocks on the door and it's here. Here we do. And it's a handsome man with a single rose for her. And she's like, oh, you must be a fan. I recently have so many. Yeah. She's, she does tell me like, you're the first one. And he looks very smitten with her. Congratulations her on her performance. And she offers him an autograph, which is funny. She's like, do you want my autograph? He's like, yeah, sure. And just then another man like taps him on the shoulder and says, inspector, they're waiting for you upstairs. And she's like, you're a policeman. I thought you were a fan. And she's like kind of scandalized that he's not just there to, because he's a fan of hers. But he's there because there has been a murder, which they're all very blasé about. They're like, kind of. So the, the stage manager comes in as the police officer. His name is Alan, the police officer as Alan leaves to, you know, deal with the murder. Stage manager comes in. This is Stefano. And he's like, oh yeah, I guess one of the stage hands died. Like really weird stuff. Anyways, like you want to go back to mine and like, can I get a kiss? He's the energy is crazy. So they, then they kiss. I guess they're dating, but that's how we find that out. Okay. And then there's like a standalone shot of a human brain, like pulsing. Maybe it's supposed to be a heart, but it's, it's strange. It really caught me off guard. Okay. And again, we're seeing like dreamy ish shots of going down a winding stone staircase. And a woman sleeping. We see the leather hand pull the blanket off the sleeping woman and putting a knife to her throat. And then we cut to, I don't, I really don't know what to make of, of, of that one. I guess I think they're flashbacks. It like kind of match cuts to our gloved killer in present day, opening his box of like weapons, his little signature weapons, his weapons of choice, which are this little triangular blade looks like a cartoon knife and some rope. And there's like needles on tape, like strips of tape with a bunch of needles on them, which we don't like the look of that. And he's somewhere now, watching a replay of the, of the opera stroking Betty's image on the screen with the knife. Yucky. Cut to. It's middle of the night. We're seeing a POV, someone breaking into the opera house. All the crows are in their little holding cage. There's probably a hundred of them. I read in the trip that there were, they started with 140 crows and only had 60 by the end because they kept flying away. That's funny. Because they really are just like loose in the theater a lot of the time. Fair enough. And they're fart. Yeah. Great. Cinematography in this is also awesome. So all the crows are getting all riled up because they sense an evil presence. Yeah. Yeah. And we see as the killer goes to where Betty's costume is being kept and it's in like a glass case and like breaks the glass, pulls out the dress, cuts it. We get like this very dramatic slow motion shot of just the fabric tearing and he's ruining this dress and the crows can feel it. And they are using their beaks to open the latch of the cage and they are able to free themselves and they start attacking this man. Wow. Peckin' Adam, Diven Adam, cawing wildly. Classic crow stuff. Real classic crow stuff. And he swinging his knife, his blade through the air and he kills one of the crows. Now all the rest of the crows are really mad and boy oh boy a crow never forgets and that's going to be important. Ooh. And they are continuing to attack him. He grabs one and like gets it in his hands and stabs it. Hi, hi, hi. And he's laughing and laughing. This guy's evil. He's so bad. And this guy's so bad. This guy's so bad. He's killing these crows and these crows are so good at acting. I don't think they killed any crows for this movie because if you'll recall in some of the other films there are. There's a real lizard death in one of Dario Argento's films and so I wouldn't put him past him to kill one of these crows but I think these crows are just really good actors because they do kind of play dead. I thought it was very cute. I really hope they're not really dead. They're dead in the film. Thank you for clarifying. Yes. So all of this is just riling the rest of the crows up more and more and it's getting really chaotic and they knock over one of the crows. They knock over one of the shelving things and it makes a really loud noise and alerts one of the nighttime security people. We see lights turning on in the distance. Someone coming to check it out and so the killer escapes through the door. They're like back door. All the birds like fly to the door. We're pecking at the door. All we want to fucking get this guy so bad but they can't. And the security guard like seized all the chaos and that this dress has been taken out and cut up and is kind of like do the birds do this. Did someone get in here? What's going on? Cut to Betty and Stefano in bed together. This scene is really weird. Okay. She they look like post post doing it but she she's doing it. Post doing it. I was going to say post-cortal and I was like they look like did it. But she sits up and starts apologizing. She's like I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Like I'm a disaster in bed and I don't know why it's not your fault. Betty honey. And Stefano says but opera singers are supposed to be horny. All opera singers they always have sex because it relaxes the vocal cords. This is a real thing. Don't you know this? That it relaxes your vocal cords so lots of opera singers have sex for their voice. For voice reasons. That's a new one. That's a new one I haven't heard before. That's a really interesting angle to play. Really interesting. But he's like all right well let me go make you some tea. Singers also do that. That one I have heard is good for the voice. So she's alone in this room and just then some leather gloved hands reach out from behind. Grab her. Tie her to a pillar in the room. This room is also like it feels like they just got a shooting location that was randomly like a huge beautiful capture. And they're like well we'll have to shoot it in here. And slightly explained he's like oh yeah my uncle's really rich. He lets me like stay here sometimes. So we're in a gorgeous castle with pillars in the rooms. So she is tied to a pillar and we see tape is put over her mouth. And then he gets out those little needles on tape and tapes them under her eyes. So that the needles are point up like up against her upper eyelids. Oh my god. And he says if you blink you'll shred your eyes. You have to watch everything. Oh my god. Pretty crazy. Yikes. So we've seen this guy's face. This is the same guy who was with the crows. We haven't seen this guy's face. Okay but with the crows do we see his face? No. Okay. So it's the same but it's the same guy. Okay. We just see his leather gloved hands. We might have seen he's wearing also like a ski mask type thing. He's just wearing like a black hooded figure. Stefano walks back in, sees Betty, doesn't react too quickly to, I guess it would be crazy and maybe take you a few minutes to process what was happening but he's real slow about it. He's like, is this a sex thing? Betty? Did you change your mind? Did you tie yourself to a pillar and tape needles to your eyes? And the man is still there? He's out of sight but we know he's, yeah he's still there but Stefano is approaching Betty. It's very really slowly. He's reaching to untie her when the knife comes from behind or below really. He gets stabbed like through the bottom of his chin into his mouth and we get a shot in the mouth seeing the blade like coming up from the throat which is honestly like a really impressive shot. I thought it was cool. Yeah. I was like, oh I don't think I've ever seen that. That's really cool. But Stefano, bye bye, stabbed a whole bunch of times after this. He like claps on the ground and just gets stabbed and stabbed and stabbed and of course Betty has to watch it all because she cannot blink. Oh and we see that she like has blinked a few times and there's like blood dripping down her eyes. Oh, sick. 80s like rock and roll is blasting in all of the murder scenes by the way. Just very fun like glam rock sounding like very funny vibe. And the killer then turns back to Betty and kind of is waving his knife at her and then cuts one of the ropes that is tied her up and leaves. She is able to like wrangle herself out of the ropes and reaches and takes that mouth tape off first which really confused me. I'd be going straight for the eyes stuff but she does that seemingly last. It's neither here nor there but I clocked it as strange. Yeah. She runs outside to a nearby phone booth to call the police but she does not give her name and she does not stay at the crime scene. She anonymously reports it and I think calls Marco to pick her up the director. Again this is pretty weird a weird scene. She's obviously like crying and hasn't communicated I guess to Marco what's happening and Marco's like oh trouble with like your boyfriend or something and she's like men always think if a woman has problems it's assumed it's to do with love like we could have problems that aren't that like maybe we are being targeted by a serial killer that tips its needles to our eyes. And he's like but you have had sex though right. It's actually very important to your career as an opera singer I don't know if you know this but you have to be horny to relax your vocal cords and that's not weird of me to ask. And she's like of course I have but it never really works. I'm like why are we having this talk about murders. Talk about what's happening to you. So they go back to her apartment. There's like kind of an energy between them that I'm like what's going on here. But now she tells him a full story. And she says the strange thing is that the images I the things I've seen are exactly like images from a dream I had when I was a kid. Like I used to see a hooded man with this like same knife. It's like the most bizarre thing I can't figure it out. He's like yeah that is strange. He's like let me let me go get you some tea again. And he comes back and is like do you have a boyfriend or someone who might be jealous because there's someone outside watching your house with binoculars right now. She needs locks. Does she have locks on doors? Yeah we got to get some locks on these doors because people are just coming in and out real willy nilly. In and out not okay. So they look out the window and he's gone. There's nobody there but she's so scared. She's like throws her throws herself in Marco's arms. They're embracing in a way that looks like maybe it's going to lead to more. It's a heated moment. And he said he offers to stay. He says do you want me to stay with you tonight. She says don't you have someone waiting and he says yes I do. And she's like well she'll be pulling out her hair. She's going to be wondering where you are. You go all just lock all the doors and windows. So he leaves and we see another shot of the vent and a shadow moving in the vents. Like a human sized or a crow sized. Oh it's human sized yes. Could it be three crows? Unless it's three crows in a coat. In a trench coat. She's terrified. She's taken some pills to try to relax her but it's not doing the trick. The phone rings and nobody's on the other line. It's creepy. She's freaking freaked. Oh she's freaking freaked. And she says oh my god why did I sing that role? None McBeth why? This is all my fault. Oh. And we get a POV shot of someone in the house like peeking around her hall corner toward her bedroom. Her head is hanging in her hands. She doesn't see anybody cut to the next day at the opera house. It's the inspectors there where it's a crime being treated as a crime scene. This dress fiasco. Three crows are dead. Oh my god. And the crow handler is there. He says I think it was Mara. Mara hated those crows the previous lead. And one of the other producers or something is like okay let's not Mara. It's all relaxed. We'll figure this all out. But we've got a show tonight so we got to fix this dress. So the costume designer is there and she's flustered. She takes the, her name's Julia. Julia takes the dress to the wardrobe room and Betty is in there and asking like what happened to my dress? We don't know but luckily it has like a bunch of costume jewelry sewn into the front of it. She's like luckily all the jewels are unbroken so I just need to like take those off, fix the dress part and sew them back on. Then she notices that there's actually a new piece of jewelry on the dress that wasn't there before. That's real gold. She shows it to Betty. Like did you put this on there? Betty says I've never seen that before. There's a inscription in it but it's pretty worn and so Julia is like I have a magnifying glass somewhere. Let me go find it. She goes in search of the magnifying glass. Betty's alone in this like wardrobe room. We're seeing a POV now like clearly through a black hood like just two eye holes staring at Betty. This is really cool that you start hearing a heartbeat getting louder and louder like this is the killer's heartbeat. Like he's getting excited type of thing. Then it's just a shot of Betty from behind as she's doing something and like the whole frame starts pulsing in time with the heartbeat. That's cool. I thought it was very cool. There's another shot of the brain but this is where I was like is it supposed to be a heart? Because it's also pulsing. Really looks like a brain though. But just then the leather hands reach out grab Betty. He also whispers to her all opera singers are such hoars. It's like a real running theme here. Julia comes back with the bracelet. I'll be honest. I don't know this bracelet doesn't really lead to anything. It feels like maybe some explanation of the bracelet was cut at some point. I don't know because there's a lot of a lot of focus on this bracelet and then nothing really comes of it. So she but she comes back and she's like there's a date inscribed in it. She comes back to see Betty tied up in one of the costume display cases. Again bound with rope with tape over her mouth and needles under her eyes. And the way that this is lit it looks like a saw movie. She's like under fluorescent lighting because she's in like a display case. It's really gnarly. Julia like runs toward her but the killer knocks her down like intercepts her and knocks her down. The bracelet goes flying. Not the bracelet. It's so important. Really though. Julia is like diving for the bracelet as if she's like now crawling to like try to get the bracelet. And it's very bizarre. She gets it and is running with it and she's being kind of funny like fucking with the killer guy. I mean like is this what you want? You want the bracelet? And he reaches on a table and grabs an iron and throws an iron at her which would really hurt. Ow. She's knocked to the floor and can't get up but she still has the bracelet. He comes to her and grabs it but then she had been faking it and she pops up and smacks him with the iron and like knocks him down pretty good. Nicely done. But then takes like a long moment to celebrate. And she's holding up the bracelet. She's like I got the bracelet. It's the most important thing at least the bracelet is still here. Oh buddy. And then she's looking at Betty like I should go on Ty Betty probably. But then she looks back down at the killer and she's like mmm but I'm pretty curious about who this killer is. And she does like a three back and forth like which one do I want to do first. And she goes back down to the killer to take his mask off and we do not see but she sees someone that makes her gasp. And then she goes and looks at Betty and she goes it's it's it's and then the leather gloved hands come up and grab her throat. She falls down the bracelet falls into her mouth as she's being strangled. She does she dies and the killer bracelet by strangled I think but bracelet probably didn't help. But now he's reaching into her mouth for the bracelet reaching around. And then he uses the knife like between her teeth to like hold the mouth open while he's reaching around for the bracelet but it's gone too far down so he rips her top of her blouse so that he can like cut into her esophagus we don't see it it's off out of frame. But the implication is that he's like cutting this bracelet out of her throat again really making it seem like this bracelet's pretty important. Someone can tell me in the comments if I missed the deal with this bracelet. Is the date does it is there a date that matters for any reason there's a date on it. I don't know what it means. Right. Yeah. Okay. Then he comes back to Betty's top he's taunting taunting her dangling the bracelet face and saying like I can take you whenever I want to like just know that and slowly like strokes he's got a pair of scissors now like fabric scissors that he's that's what he used I think to to cut open. Julia and he's stroking these scissors down Betty's shirt before he once again just cuts one of the ropes and leaves. She's again able to wriggle free and we see a shot of him rinsing the bracelet. I'm sorry that I can't like I can't not tell these details because there's just so many things about the bracelet and then we never see it again so he rinses this bracelet so cleans all the blood off of it and then drops it in a storm drain and leaves. What was this bracelet for. We'll never know. I guess we're not. We're not supposed to know it's a it's a red herring. So Betty goes home alone doesn't doesn't stop to tell anybody I don't think it's just like I guess I better get home now and she's handling this so well. The inspector is already at her house and sees there's like rope burn like marks on her wrist from where she was restrained and he sees that and is like what's going on I need you to I need you to be keeping me in the loop with what what's happening like I'm trying to help you and. I can't even remember if she tells him that he killed Julie I think she does she's like he's yeah the killer just killed the seamstress. Yeah she does tell him because then he's like oh I gotta get over there and she's like please don't leave like I'm so scared to be alone. And he's like well I gotta go to the crime scene but my assistant is just about to be here his name's Daniela Suave and I'll send him up to your apartment so don't like lock yourself in don't let anybody in except for Daniela Suave. Daniela Suave. Can we get a picture of Daniela Suave? Yeah great great idea but no. So he leaves she goes up to her apartment she's putting in eye drops and like rubbing at her tender eyes. I really appreciated these details that she's like my eyes really fucking hurt. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. But so she's put in a bunch of eye drops when someone knocks at the door and over the intercom says it's Daniela Suave let me in and her vision is blurred it's like we see a POV shot from her just like watery eye drop vision and as like a man comes in but we don't see any distinguishing details about him. And then this is a detail that again doesn't really matter but it just really tickled me she's like okay yeah go get yourself comfortable in the living room I have a great system for relaxing and she goes into her bedroom and puts on a like meditation recording that says you are feeling very calm and relaxed and she like lays down and does some of her meditation. Just thought it was really funny. The doorbell rings. Daniela Suave asks her if she's expecting company she says she is her agent Mira is coming over says well make sure you check before you open the door. She's like motherfucker you should get in there you're this is like why you're here. Yeah. But he doesn't she goes to the door she looks through the peephole it is Mira. She opens the door. Mira is has you know heard the news oh my god are you okay I came as soon as I could and she's like oh how did you hear what happened and she's like well the policeman downstairs told me Daniela Suave. And she's Betty says what Daniela Suave is in here and she's like no no Daniela Suave is downstairs and they kind of creeped to the living room where we thought Daniela Suave was the man that was in there is gone. Yeah. And the phone is in that room but we're too scared now to go into that room because he's clearly lurking in the shadows somewhere. Why don't we go downstairs and get Daniela Suave. Well because we're then they're about to do that they go to the door and then they're like what if this is the real Daniela Suave and that's the killer and then we walk straight into his trap. Seems like we should have gotten a look at what Daniela Suave looks like. Before we were told to only let Daniela Suave in how are we to know. A man we've never met and know nothing about and no no identifying details whatsoever. And even if we did my eyes were blurry so. Yeah. Just then the power is cut the lights go out in the apartment. Oh no. Mira and Betty are freaking out they go into the kitchen grab some knives love that. Great great move. And then they're trying to figure out their next move what do we do should we just scream for help and Betty says the walls in this place are like three feet thick no one's going to hear us. We've got to go out there. And so they're like if we're armed with the knives maybe maybe we maybe we can do it but as they get to the door someone is knocking on the door again Daniela Suave. Or is it. Or is it. Or is it. And Mira is looking through the people is saying show me some identification. He does but kind of is like yeah I was right here and holding it in a way that you can't really see anything. And she says I can't like I can't see it I've got your your you're messing with me I don't believe you. And he shows the gun he's like here's my gun this is a police gun. And she's like OK like I don't that doesn't help and. Also just show the just stay stop moving stop moving so I can read your identification. It's right here. We're glinting it all around. And then we see him point the gun into the people and the trigger and this is really cool. This is like matrix style slow motion of the bullet going through the door. This shot alone costs a million dollars I read. Whoa. Or excuse me one billion lira. Yeah there you go. So thank you. No idea actually how much it costs. I was confused at first. But it was like an eighth of the budget. And we see the bullet go out the back of Mira's head. This is all like slow motion. It's really awesome. And so this is Daria Nicolodi who is in a lot of Dario Argento films. I believe they were married for a time or at least like romantically involved for a long time. This was two years after they split. And she didn't really want to do the movie for that reason but also because she felt this character was like not really that interesting. But then when she heard about the or like when he explained how this death scene was going to look she was like OK that sounds pretty cool and I do want to do that. But she said it was really scary because she had to like wear some explosives on the back of her head. What? Yeah that's scary. Because they were your ex-boyfriend tells you no no no for sure for sure for sure you should do this. You should do this because there's a really cool kill shot and you will have explosives in the back of your head. And I really want you to do it. I really want you to do it. I really want to see this. I really want to see you get shot in the head. I want to see you do this. I personally am willing to spend an eighth of the budget personally. It's really important to me to do this. It's important to me that it's you. So we can see it. And I want to see it a few times. You know the thing about movies is we got to do it at least a few times. I wanted to be you. You're the only one right for it baby. It's very funny. But it does. It looks great. It's very very memorable. But now the killer is definitely in the house. The door breaks open. Betty runs to her bedroom and starts trying to make like a like a sheet like tying sheets together to climb out of her window. Because she's again pretty high up in this building. But she doesn't have time. So she's got she's got her knife still. But there's like two men in the house we think now and like it's where are they. One is good but he's not a very good cop if right. He is. Yeah. And so she's hiding the curtains as we're seeing like shadowy figures moving around. And then from like one of the closets or she like turns a corner and a body falls on her. This is the real Daniela Suave who's now in stab and killed. OK so that makes more sense. And we do get a good look at his ID now. Of course. But it's too late. She is like doesn't know where to go. I think it's also like yeah it's too high to climb. She's running out of options here where the fuck should she go when a little girl's voice says Betty come here and from the vents the little girl like grabs Betty. And it's like this is I play up here all the time. It's been this little neighbor girl in the vents the whole time. Well that's the most delightful. Well how about that. A little Eloise. Well it's obviously couched in some not delightful stuff because she is like yeah I come up here because my parents get in physical fights all the time. Right. I play in the vents. So I play in the vents which to be honest they look really witness murder. So things are going to be great for her when she. Right. But so they crawl along through the through the vents into this little girl's house. They hide up the killer sees the open vent so quickly figures out that they've gone in there is crawling after them. We see him looking through each vent room to room apartment to apartment trying to see which one they've crawled into but he can't find them. And they've escaped for now. They go into the little girls like living room mom is there she's like who the fuck are you how did you get into my house. She starts immediately screaming at her. Betty is like we need to call the police please please call the police she's like no you need to like get the fuck out of my house. And because of the yelling now we see that the killer is able to you know figure out what what house they're in and Betty's realizing this too so she's like OK it's OK OK I'll leave I'll leave but please you call the police you call the police. Betty runs out of the house down into the streets. The 80s metal is blasting get another shot of the woman from the first weird vision that we saw is like a blonde woman. We're getting a better look at her now but still have no idea who she is. Betty goes to the opera house seems like pretty bad place to hide from the opera killer. But you know that's where she goes. They only have a few sets. Marco is there and we're feeling a little suspicious of him. Yeah especially because the seamstress her reaction. Someone the seamstress knows. And he says I've Betty I figured out a way to identify the killer at the performance tomorrow night if the killer comes we're going to catch him. She's like OK great I have same more he doesn't say more and she doesn't ask. She says I have to sleep which fair enough she's been like forced to be awake for I think 48 hours and she's like I'm so tired just please I need to sleep please I need to sleep. So she she goes and sleeps in her dressing room and now we're getting the clearest kind of shots of these dreams. We're seeing this blonde woman that we previously saw in this vision kind of witnessing another woman be killed with a blank face. Now we're seeing her watching this woman be killed with kind of a smile on her face she's maybe enjoying watching this woman die. And we see a little girl walking through the hallway into this room a young Betty perhaps and you know stumbling upon this horrible scene and saying mommy is that you. And we see a hooded masked man turn from the from the woman being killed. He is the one that has been killing her while this blonde woman watches and Betty is witnessing all of this and then Betty wakes up in her dressing room. Says like I don't know if that was a dream or men do we get an indication of whether mommy's the blonde woman or the woman being killed. Mommy's the blonde woman. I mean both are bad both are bad. Yeah that's that's for sure troubling. We get to that night's performance this is where we're going to catch the killer somehow. I don't need any more details no more details needed he's being pretty coy about it he's like well it's just you wait. She's like I love a surprise while I'm performing. Yeah he's he's a dramatic he's he's he's a creative guy you know yeah he's a creative guy. Classic director classic director. So the performance starts. They're singing audiences and thralled. And then Marco gives a signal to one of the stage hands is like now. And the huge cage of crows blasts through one of the stage walls. Really dramatic entrance. And the cages opened and all of the crows fly out. Oh they're going to geolocate together. Oh my god these crows know. Audience is very confused is this supposed to be happening. We see the crows circling the top of the theater basically like getting eyes on everybody they're searching they remember they've got a vendetta. Yeah this is a very long like spinning shot it's cool it's like a POV from the crows all through the opera house. Wow awesome. And they fly around and fly around until they recognize someone they dive down and we're just seeing some close up shots of someone like shielding their face while beaks are plucking eyes out and then we see that it is the inspector it is Alan the cop Alan with the rose. How dare you. With the rose. Alan you motherfucker. And they pluck his eye out and it shows it and we see a close up of one of the crows with eye and his beak. Do they kill him. No they don't kill him but they fuck him up pretty good. This obviously you know causes some chaos in the theater people are running out of their seats he's kind of able to escape and disappear into the crowd. He somehow Betty like runs backstage Betty runs basically straight to him. And he grabs Betty and locks them both in a office like somewhere in this building. Yeah I don't remember how this happened. Oh she was in her dressing room classic Betty she's. She loves that room. She loves that room. She's never once thought of hiding in a in a non obvious place to be. A room without her name on it. It's like when when May hides and she just goes to the wall and sticks next to the wall. That doesn't count I can still see you. So Alan's got Betty locked in a room he ties her up to a chair. His eyes gnarly it's gone is bleeding. He's got little claw and beak scratches all over his face. And this is where you get his kind of villain reveal story here let me explain everything to you. He says you're just like your mother. We also I forgot to mention like had one passing line about how her mother was also an opera singer. And he says I loved her so much. But she taught me a nasty little game she taught me to kill and torture. And only after that could I have her. So I believe what happens is that Betty's mom made this guy kill people in front of her and then would fuck him. Have sex with him. OK. Wait so Betty why have you. What what's your relationship with your mom. I think she's dead but I don't remember if they say that or if I just assume that she's absent in the film entirely other than these flashbacks. But I think there's there was also like supposed to be some sort of connection to like why Betty can't have an orgasm. And there's almost like an implication that like she's like her mom needs to see murder at least that's what the murderer is kind of being like you're not broken Betty you just needed me to kill people and now we can fuck. It's just genetic. It's genetic. Maybe her bracelet was like her mom's bracelet. I think the bracelet must have been the mom's but like say more about it then say more about it or say less as in nothing. Right. Like it's a bracelet that says I like to kill and murder before I have sex. It's like that type of bracelet. OK. I love it. I love it when the solution is something that you could never have guessed in a million years. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty pretty Betty. What's Betty thinking about this. Is she intrigued. I think she's got tape over her mouth again. So we're not hearing from Betty right now. She's restrained and he's I think like hoping that now we can be together. You know Betty and Betty and I go about it. But then he he reaches to his face and touches his his fucked up eye and he's like oh no oh my god you could never you could never love me. I'm a monster. I'm a monster now. Now I'm a monster. I'm a monster now a monster and I forgot I actually forgot for a second. I completely forgot. Oh shoot darn that's right. Yeah you know when crows eat your eye and you can't remember it happened. Everything the way I'm looking at you in the world is completely different than the way I've ever looked at anything. Everything looks different to me. My perception is off and I'm in searing pain. I forgot about my eye. I forgot about this. So you know what actually like we should probably both just die. I think that's probably best and he finds a can of gasoline in the room conveniently. He starts pouring it everywhere and says all right we're going to burn to death you and I. He's really he draws it out. He like there's some other things where he's like actually shoot me I'm scared of pain and. Make a decision my friend. And then he lights a match room goes up in flames. Oh he gives us a few more details about mom. He says I strangled your mom. She wouldn't let me touch her. She wouldn't let me touch her. Oh such a gross nasty line. And then he yeah lights the room. It's up in flames. She is able to get out of the rope. I can't remember how. But she is still locked in the door is locked and she can't get out of the room. She grabs the his gun and is shooting at the door handle. It's not working somehow it's still not opening. She's banging on it and screaming she's in the opera house somewhere and so presumably people are out there and we'll be able to hear her. But no one seems to be coming. She sees a key on the ground in the flames and like very carefully pulls it towards her and like uses her her clothing to pick it up because it's boiling hot from the flames and tries to use it on the door and it's not the right key. And just then someone has finally heard her screaming and banging and they come from the other side and and open the door. It's Marco and some firemen. And we see Alan's body burning and they're like oh my god it's over thank god. Cut to the Swiss Alps. Nice. Marco and Betty are in this little cabin in the mountains implying that now they're fucking. Sure. And maybe now she's liking it. Maybe. Right. Oh she just needed to go through this for her sex life. Yeah I had a hard time tracking. Honestly it was worth it. I don't know what was supposed to be happening here but we see that there's like a maid carrying a big stack of dishes around the house and Betty kind of eyes her thinking that looks a little treacherous. They are planning their next opera. They're very feeling very excited about it and we hear all the dishes fall and shatter and the maid kind of yelps and they're like oh my god we knew that was going to happen. We're thinking what's going on here. Betty goes outside just like prancing around sound of music style in the Swiss Alps and then she sees two German shepherds running through the woods. Kind of weird. She's a helicopter flying around. So what's going on here. We see Marco inside has the news on and we get a breaking alert. A new development in the opera killer case. The body that was presumed to be Alan's was actually a mannequin and we only found out right now. And then it does a little flashback to him having a mannequin that looks exactly like him at the ready in this room. All right. That he tosses into the fire very elaborate plan. This is the man with so many plans. He's got a lot of plans. But Marco sees this goes into the kitchen sees made has been killed. Oh brother. Alan is here. He leans out the window to yell to Betty. Betty he's here run. Betty just starts booking it through the woods. I don't know. I don't know if this I don't I guess what else are you going to do but sure. Sure. She is in being pursued by Alan. He's hot on her tail. Chasing her through the woods with his like scarred eye. This looks like very this part feels like a diehard movie. It's like the 80s music is blasting and he has his eye scar. Marco runs out and tackles Alan to the ground and Alan ends up on top of Marco pulls out his knife and Betty says no. Then he stabs Marco a bunch of times kills Marco. Oh man. And then Betty says oh my God. Oh I am I just now realize that I am actually exactly like my mother and I wanted you to do that and I'm so happy that you did that. But now we like really need to run away together you and I as lovers before this gets you know discovered we need to get out of here and you see Alan like pretty suspicious of this but also like that would be really cool if true. I've been wanting her to say. You know on the one hand high risk high reward. So he kind of cautiously walks off with her and she's she's playing it like OK here we go start our life together. In no way do we as an audience believe her. Sure. Even though it did read that there was a version of the script where they were like maybe she is actually. And I'm glad they didn't go that route but yeah. She finds a moment where he's a little distracted and she grabs a big old rock hits him over the head. And just then a bunch of police arrive the helicopter is like landing nearby. They come up to her and they're like man he this person is really funny the two cops are like so he was really trying to kill you. He really wanted to kill you. You OK. He really wanted that guy really wanted to kill you. OK. You OK. You OK. You OK. And she says I'm OK. I knew you guys were coming. I saw your dogs running. I figured like I tricked him. I told him a load of nonsense to distract him. And then as they're like carrying him off she yells at him I'm nothing like my mother. I'm not like my mother. And then she kind of runs off alone again feels very love to do this. Sound of music. She's like prancing through the flowers in the grass and then she kind of just like tosses herself down onto her stomach and like basically like kicking her heels in the air like having a nice little play. She's playing. OK. No no moment for Marco. No. Sorry. Marco and she said her. I think this is like her voice over her thoughts. She's thinking like I'm not like my mother. I'm not like anyone. I'm not like anybody else. I love everything. I'm like the wind. I'm like butterflies. I'm like clouds. I'm not traumatized. I'm actually just the wind and the butterflies. Honestly like of all the ways to react to trauma. This is a great one. This is good. I'm actually. She's rolling around in the grass and she's like picking little flowers like she's going to make herself a little flower crown and she's just delighted. And she's just delighting in nature and she sees a lizard in the grass trapped by a branch has like fallen over it just so that it's restrained and can't move. She's like oh my gosh. She reaches. She takes the branch off the lizard and gives it a quick little pet as it composes itself. It kind of gathers itself and she says go free little little guy and the lizard scurries off and that's the end of the movie. Wow. Didn't you say a lizard died in another. That's what I was like is this lizard redemption is. This is. I feel like feeling bad about. That's what this whole movie was about. It was how do we get us to a lizard redemption. Wait. I'm so sorry. The last thing that happens. The POV is like from the ground up to her and she like reaches her arms out and hugs the ground and that's the end of the movie. Really, really incredible stuff. I loved it. Whoa. Really special. That was really special. Whoa. Interesting. And I think for the US release they were like can we please end the movie at the opera house like after they're like oh the whole thing. Like can we just cut all of the Swiss Alps stuff and Dario was like nope. Which thank God. And Dario was right. And Dario was right. Because. Because. One of my favorite movie endings ever. We actually can't end the movie there because that's not where the movie ends. It's interesting. Yeah. You would think that he would have dropped at least one line about her feelings about her mom. You know what I mean? Like one reference to like my mom was also an opera like singer and I've always wanted to be close to her. Or something. Yeah. Something. It's pretty thin. It's just that she's an opera singer or was an opera singer. But that's also such a huge reaction at the such a huge crazy reaction at the end. It's like how are we supposed to interpret this reaction? Like what is. I mean I think my stomach is. I mean it's beautiful. She's just feeling so free. She's just a child of the earth. She's not a child of her mother. She's a child of God. She's a child of. Nature. Mother Earth. I mean I actually I really I'm honest. I think this is a really fascinating depiction of trauma and the way that someone could process trauma. I mean it would be such a relief to know for sure he's dead. But also I thought he was going to come back to life again and try to kill her. Like that's the only thing I kept thinking. I thought she was about to like fully have an orgasm there at the end. Maybe that is kind of what's happening. I didn't think about it through that lens but she's certainly ecstatic. Euphoric. Euphoric. Okay so this is more a movie about her sexual awakening. That's what it's about. There's definitely a lot of talk about her. They definitely talk about her. So yeah. Man I what a what a fascinating tale. It's just like they just quite simply don't make them like this anymore. No they don't. They couldn't. They couldn't. They couldn't. And I am delighted every time I watch a movie that just is is just doing whatever the hell it wants to do. And breaking the form. You really can see that this is just a singular vision of Dari Argento just being like well this is what's going to happen in this movie. Yep. 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