Drink Champs

#Throwback Episode - w/ Onyx | (Ep.83 & 84)

86 min
Apr 15, 20264 days ago
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Summary

Drink Champs hosts a throwback episode with legendary hip-hop group Onyx, discussing their rise to fame through Jam Master Jay, their groundbreaking albums like 'Bacdafucup', their transition into acting, and their lasting influence on hip-hop culture. The episode covers their early career, collaborations with major artists, and their continued relevance in the industry decades later.

Insights
  • Authentic mentorship and industry relationships (like Jam Master Jay's support) were critical to breaking through in 90s hip-hop, not just talent alone
  • Diversifying into film and television allowed Onyx to extend their career longevity while maintaining credibility in music
  • Creating a distinctive aesthetic and sound (grimy style) that differentiated from competitors was essential to cultural impact
  • Legacy artists maintain relevance by supporting emerging talent and staying active in touring and recording rather than resting on past achievements
  • International touring and album-focused artistry (not just singles) creates sustainable career models for hip-hop artists
Trends
Hip-hop artists increasingly pursue acting and entertainment diversification as primary revenue and legacy-building strategyMentorship and artist development by established figures drives cultural innovation and next-generation successInternational hip-hop markets (Europe, Netherlands, Africa) provide sustained touring revenue and cultural appreciation for legacy actsAlbum-focused artistry and deep cuts resonate more with international audiences than single-driven strategiesGrimy/street aesthetic in hip-hop cyclically returns as counter to mainstream polished productionCross-generational collaboration between 90s legends and contemporary artists validates legacy and introduces to new audiencesArtist autonomy in production, directing, and creative control becomes increasingly important for legacy satisfactionNostalgia-driven podcast platforms create new monetization and audience engagement opportunities for legacy artists
Topics
Hip-hop artist development and mentorship modelsTransition from music to film and television actingInternational touring and global hip-hop marketsAlbum production and creative control in hip-hopGrimy aesthetic and East Coast hip-hop styleDef Jam Records and independent label dynamicsMusic video direction and visual storytellingLegacy artist relevance and career longevityCollaboration between generations in hip-hopHip-hop cultural impact and influence measurementArtist management and industry relationshipsDrug culture and studio environment in 90s hip-hopBeef and competition in hip-hop (Onyx vs. Dres Effects)Sampling and production techniquesPodcast platforms as artist engagement channels
Companies
Def Jam Recordings
Onyx's label that signed them through Jam Master Jay's imprint; foundational to their career breakthrough
Profile Records
Early label that released Onyx's first single 'How We Do It Like This' before Def Jam deal
iHeart Media
Podcast network distributing Drink Champs and other shows mentioned throughout episode
Gilead Sciences
Pharmaceutical sponsor of HIV awareness segment 'Care for the Culture' featured in episode
Verbo
Travel booking platform sponsor offering 'Verbo care guarantee' for trip protection
People
Onyx
Main guests discussing their career, influence, and legacy in hip-hop
Jam Master Jay
Deceased mentor who discovered Onyx and signed them; central to their origin story
Sticky Fingaz
Onyx member who joined after 'Stick and Move' demo; also directs music videos
Freddie Foxxx
Onyx member discussing group's formation and creative process
The Notorious B.I.G.
Discussed as contemporary artist; Onyx worked with him in studio sessions
Tupac Shakur
Referenced in context of hip-hop legacy and East Coast-West Coast dynamics
Russell Simmons
Appeared in Onyx's 'Throw Your Guns in the Air' music video
Run-DMC
Referenced as influential predecessors; Jam Master Jay was their DJ
Eminem
Collaborated with Onyx on 'Two of Us'; described as hilarious in studio
Will Smith
Referenced as first rapper to play superhero; compared to Sticky's Blade role
Charlamagne tha God
Host of Drink Champs episode; discussed supporting artists and giving flowers to legends
Southside
Contemporary producer guest discussing influence of Onyx on his generation
Lil Wayne
Referenced as contemporary artist influenced by hip-hop legacy
Drake
Referenced as contemporary artist in context of new generation hip-hop
Spike Lee
Directed 'Clockers' in which Sticky Fingaz had acting role
Quotes
"If it wasn't for them, there might not be a CNN. There definitely wouldn't be a Nori. The I was inspired by being grimy from them."
Charlamagne tha GodOpening segment
"We changed the whole vibe with that one record. With the Mad City. Everybody shaved their fucking hair bald and adopted the Mad Face."
Onyx memberMid-episode
"The most dangerous thing to do is make another king. You know what I'm saying? That's deep. Just like J.A.P. J put us in position."
Onyx memberLate episode
"The future is a mystery. And the past is history. But today is a gift. Today is the day of the call of presence."
Onyx memberClosing segment
"You want to make timeless music? You want to make your whole body of work something to be proud of because when you go to Europe, they don't call out your singles. They call out your album cuts."
Onyx memberCareer advice segment
Full Transcript
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Wild, wild back you were with. It was like a first like closet moment for me where I was like, you're like, I don't feel like she's hot like the rest of them. No, no, no, I was like, she's beautiful. But I'm appreciating her in a different way than these boys are. I'm not like, but listen to Las Colerías, just us on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. We got Kibia Positives, sweetie with my girl, Crystal Renee Hayslett. We got reality with the King with my guide and my brother, Carlos King. Y'all know he does reality commentary like nobody can. Now we also have Don't Call Me White Girl, the podcast. I love Mona and Club 520 podcast along with the Grits and Eggs podcast. So this lineup, stacked baby. You're also going to want to check out the panels that we have lined up to feature and come on stage, Tika Sumter and John Hope Bryant, just to name a few. Of course, it's way bigger than the podcast. We're bringing the Black Effect Marketplace with Black Own Businesses, plus the Food Truck Court to keep you fed while you visit us. OK, listen, you don't want to miss this. Tap in and grab your ticket now at blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. And right now we have one of the most notorious groups. Arguably, if it wasn't for them, there might not be a CNN. There definitely wouldn't be a Nori. The I was inspired by being grimy from them. They came, they represented Queens and they represented Brooklyn too. They represented BQE, not just Queens. They came, they they they worked with with with one DMC. Jam Master Jay, they worked with Def Jam. They tore the world. They still tore in the world. Every time I speak to one of them niggas, they in Russia or doggies or doggies. I'm Colombian. I was like, I'm Colombian. This mother fuckers is all. One time I'm sitting there having drinks with the nigga. The niggas spoke a whole sentence in Russian. I swear to God, I swear to God. What is it? Um, how do you say thank you? Spasiba. Spasiba. He's a joker. No problem. These guys are legends. We started this show to support our legends. They are they are from they are locally. They are my family personally. And I am glad and proud to introduce and honor tonight. The motherfucking legendary Onyx makes up now. Now, with that being said, how did you guys even meet Jam Master Jay? How did that happen? Because that's what you guys on, right? Yeah, we met Jay. It's the craziest show we met Jay. Let's get to it. So we had the Greek Fest, you know, I'm saying in Queens. You ever visit a Greek Fest in Queens? I'm thinking about the freak fest. OK, freak fest. It should be at Jones Beach. Yeah, I'm a horny nigga. I'm sorry. This is like this is like 89 90. You know what I'm saying? Um, what record was out? That on tell me how you want it. It won't. Oh, yeah. So so. So it was that record was playing. Yeah. So check this out. We we we are on a highway going home from Jones Beach. And it's a trapping. Be mad people. So the cars is moving like two miles. They even move it. Like it's like a party. Everybody got hot 97 or everybody playing. However you want it. We sold us all. So the song Rocky. The whole beach. Every car playing is shit. So we look next to the next to the car next to this jam. As the J. It wasn't a car. It's a band. In the van. What's the MPV? Now I have the big black L van with the TV. Fantastic. The man with the TV in it. OK, I'll just take shit. Yeah. The original. And pull it over. The original spread. So this is right next to a smoke. Smoke it. We like, yo, can we smoke with you? Like, yeah, come in. Come in the van. So we got in the van, started smoking with J. We start freestyle. Wait, did y'all knew that was J.M.S. and J? Of course. What kind of question is that? You like, I got J right there. You know what I'm saying? It's just fucking weed. Yeah, weed. Yo, this is, but me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking. You don't know who he is by name. He was with his brother. Right. My man's just think about weed, but I'm thinking about a record deal. Like my mind is strictly on, yo, how could I get on? This is my chance. How can I snigger in the traffic jam? He ain't going nowhere. You ain't going nowhere. So my whole thing was, I kid you that J.M.S. and J.M.S. On the highway. On the highway. Let's make some noise for that. By any means necessary. I wasn't even there though. Get out of here. It was just you? He wasn't in the group yet. Oh, wow. This is me, Son C and Big B.S. He wasn't in the group yet. We had a single on profile call, how we do it like this? That's profile records. Well, no, I was about to say that was priority. I was about to say it wasn't ice cube on profile, but that was priority. No, it was already. Yeah, yeah, okay. So continue. Yeah, so Sick wasn't even in the group at the time. He was just somewhere in Brooklyn probably running with D-Sep. So, well, now Son C.M.S. No life. So from that conversation, you got in the van, you smoked with him, and did you freestyle? How did it become? Freestyle form, you know what I'm saying? We was there for like at least an hour with him before the traffic started. In the traffic jam for now? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Smoking with him, chilling. We just voodled with him. We from Queens, he from Queens. It was more than hip hop. It was just like, yo, these little niggas is cool. You know what I'm saying? I got kicked out by my van. So we was just rockin' with him. He gave me his number. We just kept callin'. Kept buggin' that nigga. Did you think that was gonna be real, or you thought that the number he gonna gave you was like... Nah, nah, I know it was real. You knew it was real. He bobed it already. It was real. Jay was a real nigga. You know what I'm saying? Jay was a real nigga. I'm saying you knew that off top. He wouldn't have given you the number. He ain't gonna give you no fake number. That's a real nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's... Like, well, run DMC, Jay was the streets for run DMC. Like, he was the street nigga. He's still in the streets. You know what I'm saying? Ice broke. Oh, I got you. I got you. I got the secret bucket. I got the secret bucket. I got the secret bucket. Got the magic bucket. So, so I... So from there, y'all speaking. Yeah. And then what was the first... Because you had to go to the studio session. What was the first studio session like? Well, Jay just got his label. He just got the Jam Jay label through Arm Dev Jam. So this is like a year later. And he was like, go to the studio. Y'all just keep working. So by the time we was working, putting the demos together for Jay, Jay was on tour with... We're running him. So one day, one day, Sun C and Big D, they come to the studio. And we say Sun C, that's the Dawson one. Swabay. One day, they didn't come to the studio. So, so... Trap. What? His name was Trap. No way. I knew everything about hiding somewhere. It was so tropical. Because I had all the flavors. You can have it. You can have it. You weigh too self for a tropical name. Yup. I used to go to school with Decent. So running wild like... The niggas tell me, yo, Sun, no Trap. Once they say that, I know it's some real niggas from back in the day. But I ain't gonna lie. Trap does sound way tougher than tropical. Yeah, you can't go to tropical. I know. I see a niggas like, yo, what up, man? They Trap. I bag a bitch with that baby. My name Trapa Cook. What? Decent. Put a pine tree in your ass. So like it ain't nothing at all. So, so, so, you guys, get us to the real session. Yeah. When is the moment you say this shit is real? This is what happened. So we did like 20 demos like CJ, like he's like getting studio work. So we put like 20 demos. So Sun saying Big DSA come to the studio on the day. They was doing the jugs or whatever, whatever, they can't make it. So Stick came to the studio. We did a record called Stick and Move. And we was wilding out what our voice is like acting grimy like... It was just the timing for what we was doing at that time. And that record was nothing like the whole demo we did for Jay was just that one record was just stand out. So when I sent the records to Jay, he was like, yo, what's this shit? Who is this nigga? I'm like, that's my cousin. He like, yo, that nigga got to be in the group. I'm like, but it's already three niggas. He was like, yo, if he ain't in the group, there ain't no group. And that's how Stick got in the group. Cause let me, let me, let me, cause let me just... So they can't nap Jay in the evening, can't nap him. Cause let me, let me just be clear. Y'all change the sound of music. Like, at the end of the day, people were, at that time, I remember being a kid in Queens. And I remember it being about like being smooth and being like, and you guys came and you guys had fun. But you guys was wild as fuck. And so how, whose idea was it to be like super different than everything else that was going on? Me, Fred, you're on Jay. And how did that, how did that, it was like... Like me and Stick moved there. Say, I want ten of those. Different. Different. So we changed the whole vibe with that one record. With the Mad City. Everybody shaved their fucking hair bald and adopted the Mad Face. But at the time you had Leeds at a new school, you had Dyes Effects coming out. It's like, our whole energy was the fucking Destroy Dyes Effects. That was our whole energy. Like, like, when I was like, the winner boy has the dress, dead or they dead. Like, I was talking about them niggas. You know what I'm saying? Cause Jay was like, yo, what the fuck? That's what the beef shit was. Nah, but just not like on the beef shit, but just like... Yeah, you got to eat. These niggas is hot, we got to be hot. We got to be more grameer. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how it was. They came out to sewer. Then you got Wu-Tang coming after us. It was everybody fed off who was before them. Cause it was... That's how hip hop always is Wu-Tang. It's here right now, to this day. It's always the next shit from what was already there before. You know what I'm saying? So it was Dyes Effects. Yeah. It was Onyx and then Wu-Tang. Correct? Correct. Cause y'all came out first. No, they were nation. They were nation. They were nation. And then with Dyes Effects, who came out first? And what was the first Onyx record to take off? Throw your guns. Throw your guns. Yeah, we used to in my hand on the box. All day long. All day long. Oh my God, how was that studio session? I threw your guns in there. I need to hear this. A lot of drugs. That regular creed. Really? There's a lot of drugs. A lot of drugs. A lot. And then, and then, so, so what was the vibe? Like, did, did, like, cause, cause what I'm saying is, I like, I mean, honestly, like that cause y'all my friends, but y'all really changed the face of music. So, yo, the nigga sticky was doing his verse, right? Uh-huh. So, we was, we was, we was doing a verse in 1212 studio. Remember that studio? That's a power play. It burned down in Queens. Oh, no, no, no, no. Remember that dream? I made the power play. That's the real thing. That's the South Side Queen. Oh, God, oh, okay, yeah. Right off God, bro. So anyway, the studio mad hot. So we doing throw your guns, wilding out on some, on some Superman shit, Superman drugs and all that. So we sticky doing his verse, showed off sweat, like a slave in a booth. I'm just slapped him on his back. Do that shit hard, man. That's the real shit. That's the real shit. Yes, I'm not so sweat came up to do that all night. Look, that's so hard. This is going to hurt. Right. But when y'all made the record, did y'all know what it was going to do to the culture? Or this was just like another one? Something's gonna happen. We got Jay with us. We knew we on debt. Like we have for these guys. Oh, block with us. We went to a show like fucking no exaggeration. I have 15 calls filled up. Everybody with the heads of lights on. Blown the fucking Tobol. All right. Now we knew we knew we wasn't in there. Yeah, and plan wasn't. We wasn't in there. We wasn't in there. Not not the fuck shit up. That's why the album was called back the fuck up. Right. That was the whole vibe of the album. Like everybody got to back the fuck up. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. And you got Leo Cohen and Russell like giving us the video. Russell and the video spitting in the video. Like they like just go ahead like. Wait up, wait up, wait up. You can't just say that like that was normal. Hold on. Russell, you had Russell in the video. I don't want to spit in with a fucking feet jacket on. He put one top in a Rolls Royce model bitch driving in the back. You know what's crazy? Because one DMC was never actually on deaf man. Right. Right. So it was on profile. Yeah. So that's not so J. Yo, he's on profile. He looked at me like. Because they was on profile. These niggas is, you know what I mean? Already on already. I mean he has some pop in the video. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. His label. Right. These niggas on my label? Tim, Stu ain't tell me about that. So how did y'all ever get on profile to get on deaf man? He just had a single deal. He just had a single deal. He was like, oh, Red Alert ain't playin' recce. He was wackin' on black. Like real shit. What? He was playing beat shit. And I play it for the other people. You remember Red Alert was like, I don't like to vote. Like if Red didn't like his shit, he was not getting on at that time. I'm like, I don't like your fucking scratch. Who's Dimash? Who's Dimash? So, we'll shut the regular. So now whatever is slam. Slam. I'm at the same level. 93. 93. I was the same. That was the second single. The third one was the first. So the guns was your first. Yo, y'all, they gotta be quiet, y'all. Yo, what's the talk about this? Talk over here, y'all. Relax, y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're slam. Let me tell you. I'm only three years. Because let me tell you something. Slam. Me too. Let me tell you something. Slam was like the first time I seen. Like, cause obviously walk this way. I was too kind of young because I'll be four years old. No, I walked this way. I was like, I was 82. I was born in 77 or something like that. Right. I was born in 77. Young boy. Yeah, I was young. Young boy. So, when I see walk this way, that was kind of later on in my life. Right. But when I see slam, that was like the first time I seen white people fully embrace hip hop culture. Like, I fully see them come on. Like, what that is? Oh, that's Remy Axel. God damn, he's rich. Thanks. This makes the noise for sticky being rich. God damn it. God damn it. But for you guys, like, did you know when you made slam that you were across the whole way? They crossed over in a way. You were beyond the hood. Like, the hood folks with y'all. But now it was like white people was playing slam. That was only 24. Yeah, yeah. The box. I remember the box. Yeah, the box too. In a way, it was all planned. It was all planned. Cause that record took a long time to make. It wasn't just seven days. Like God created the heavens and the herbs. It took us seven days to create the rhythm and the verse. The crazy shit is we ain't even like the beat. You know, Sha's skills, Sha's skills. Sha's skills, yeah. He produced the beat. I ain't like it. I was like, ah, it's too soft. He was like, yo, this is it. I'm like, all right. Wait, are we talking about the boys? You didn't like the beat? I'm coming with some. I ain't like it. That shit is clear. You feel like it? Because it was just kind of. But it's coming from the nigga that made last days though. Nah, not even that. But not even that. It was just like soft. What we was doing, we was doing shit like back to the fuck up. Bitch ass niggas, I'm gonna have to pull you skirt up. All that type of shit. Did he come in with the boom? Nah, I think y'all was just like, I don't think that was too soft. I don't think that was soft. That was not soft. That was not soft. That was not soft. Comparison though. Oh, okay, man. Okay, I'll take the other records. Just saying. Okay, okay. Like Jay had to convince me. You don't have to glass only cookie. Like Jay had to convince me like, yo, this is it. Oh, so it was Jam Master Jay. Man, do the fuck song. All right. All right. All right. And now let's just touch on Jam Master Jay a little bit. Oh, man. I haven't worked at his studio, the other studio, the one that he passed away at. Nah, never worked at. Oh, you never worked at? I never worked at. That's dangerous for Queens Niggas to go to that studio. Yeah, it's crazy. I went to the studio after this shit happened. It was just like, it was just like L feeling in there. But how sad was that moment for you guys? I'm sorry to get to some serious shit. You know, this is drink chance. You like to touch on everything. That was like, that was like my big brother. Yeah. The first time I came to LA was with Jay on some movie shit. Russell Simmons and Quincy Jones was doing a TV show and I was coming out of Queens to audition for the show and all of that. And that Michael Rappaport. That's the first time I met him. First time I was even on a plane was with Jay. Right. No, sure. You know what I'm saying? God bless. God bless. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta, everybody please just stop for a second. Let's give a moment of silence for Jam S to Jay, everybody. God bless Jam S to Jay. He makes the noise for him too, god damn it. So now, so now, let's, let's, let's, let's take us through this time. You, you, your first acting gig was Moisha or no? No, Strat. Strat. Yeah. Come on. Spamboon, nigga. Come on, son. God, brother. You playing gigs right now. Was that Spike Lee? No, that's Crookley. That was Faris Royce. That was Faris Royce. Okay. So how do you- I had juice and just strapped it. It was Menace of Society. So how's, really, out of line. So it's a lot. How do, how, thank you for- What happens you get this call to, to, to, to, to, cause we rappers at this time. And you get this call to, to, to Hollywood is called even though it's in New York. That was Russo. Russo. Russo was like, yo, go do that. Wow. Go audition for that. Wow. And J-will tell me the music supervisor. So I hold album back to fuck up was like the soundtrack and shit. What was your first, first acting gig? Hmm. I acted like I didn't do it and shit. They let me go. Just do it with the ball leaf. Just make some noise. Make some noise. Now who is your baby? Who is your baby? Oh, I mean first. First. Uh-uh-uh-uh-clockers. Spike Lee. Clockers. Cat-pipe from a front row. So hold on. Let's just- let's just- listen. Did you know how much they just slanced on us right now? His first movie- Just told you. His first movie was clockers. That is- Just- Just- Just- Just- Just- Just- What move you had to yellowjack it on? Sunset Park. Sunset Park, all right. Let me save that then. Let me save that. That's a great pose. Yellowjack. Yellowjack. Yo, and that was me playing ball two money. Let it go real. Nice. No stuff. No stuff. So now, when you think about it, how hip hop has transitioned, and you guys have, right now we're interviewing you in Hollywood, which means that you had to do good to stay in Hollywood. A lot of people move here, and they move the fuck back, and they realize how, so how hard is it to say, you know what, I want to crack in the Hollywood, because it's better payment for us. For those that don't know, like let's speak to the people. It's better payment when it comes to, as far as the work, you know what I'm saying? I mean, it's a different payment. I would say that, I would say it's better. It's just a different atmosphere, different surrounding, you know what I'm saying? But it's the same, my suit. Same fight different around, you know what I mean? Right, right. But explain to our artists that's rapping right now, and they're saying, you know, because that's what most people do. They rap to get to the movies, and then they do the movies to get to whatever, you know what I'm saying? Or an R&B they can want to rap, or the rap they can want to do R&B, it's all about basketball, they can want to rap. It's all the same. It's only as hard as you allowed it to be. Mm. Do it all, fuck it. Now you did a movie. Didn't you do a hard movie? Was it Wesley Snipes? No, it's not hard, but Wesley Snipes played Blade, in the movies, and I was Blade on TV, Spike TV, with Lula on cinema. Now, is that different for you, or is that like? Now that shit was nil, because you know, growing up I was a fucking comic book head. So to beat out Michael John Wayne, and play fucking Blade, it was shit. And I'm the first rapper to ever be a fucking superhero. Right. Will Smith played, what's his name? Yeah, the big six. I was made up to a big hero, and that was after the Blade. First rapper is Sway and... You was second, Will, relax. Relax, Will. Relax, Will. So now, your first time acting, because it's different, like when you doing videos, you'll get a troll if you're lucky. Right. But acting, it's like... Stare and dig. You know the drill. Crash service, Crash service. Wardrobe. Wardrobe. Wardrobe. So what made y'all say I'ma still do music? Cause I ended up a lot. My first movie, I was like, I'm done. I'm never gonna rap again. Two million records, the first album. Like this is what we do, like we love, this is hip hop. That's the foundation of everything. That's the foundation, that's the button right there. So you stay, what's your favorite ever in hip hop? Right now. My favorite ever? I can't, I would have to agree with him because, because I'm a fan of all the other things. I'm right now. Right. Mmm. Look at the past. You can't do nothing about that shit. Nah, that's true. My favorite ever was Right Now. Right Now. Right Now. What's your favorite new artist? Me. That's what makes noise in that. Yeah. My new name is Time. My favorite new artist is these n****s called DodeoD. They're from Netherlands. Netherlands? Yeah, these n****s is crazy. Y'all get a lot of overseas. We got a joint album with them. They so ill. We just did an album called Shotguns in Hell. So that's gonna pop up. And that's out right now? It's coming like in the summer. In the summertime. Make sure y'all get that three chance motherfucking army. What's up everyone? I'm Ago Vodem. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network, it's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day and I was like, and dad, I think I wanna really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings, I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Readers, Katie's finalists, publicists, we have an incredible new episode this week for you guys. We have our girl Hilary Duff in here and we can't wait for you to hear this episode. They put on Lizzie McGuire 2AM video on demand. This guy's Google women. 2AM, Lizzie McGuire. 2AM, but whatever time it is, Lizzie McGuire and I'm like, I'm wild, I'm wild back to you. It was like a first like closet moment for me where I was like, you're like, I don't feel like she's hot, like the rest of them. No, no, no, I was like, she's beautiful, but I'm appreciating her in a different way than these boys are. I'm not like, but listen to Las Coleristas on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Julie K. Brown, who broke the explosive story on Jeffrey Epstein in 2018. These victims have been let down time and time again for decades and decades and decades by local law enforcement, by federal law enforcement, by administration after administration. The Justice Department through, I think we counted four presidential administrations failed these victims. Listen to Bleep with Adon Abaro as part of the MyCultura podcast network, available on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So you guys on Depth Jam, you come out and then you do a record. You do a... He's on Depth Jam too, right? That's right. Yeah, no, I'm not. Bring it down to bring it to you. He's acting like he's outside. He's outside the system, right? Because y'all looked out for me, because y'all didn't know how much I looked up to y'all, and I still do. And y'all called me for the record. Yeah. Shut up, that remix? That's right. Yo, you remember that studio session? I loved it. Who you was with? I see you second. You remember who you was with? Oh, my God. You was your perv. Superv. And I had my man Bruno Foucault, and he was battling. He was like, yo, these niggas is like, they're breaking down and they was going ahead and ahead all night. And that was Ray Quarner, and the people was the perv. Yeah, perv. He was gonna show. Yeah, but that was not Bruno Wodem. Yeah. That's right. So what made y'all say, because I was the youth at that time, y'all was like the OGs. Right. So what made y'all say, let me reach out to this nigga, and punch. And punch. Because we weren't legends at this. No, but you had the hot, you was hot nigga. It was like, first of all, you were a Queens nigga. Thank you. And then the whole T.O. and Y. Like you was a rap star because the whole I Rack, and all that. That's one of the songs from Zyda DJ's before we go on stage. To get eating. Yeah, man. It's real shit, man. Yeah, man. I need to get that. To this day, yo, pull. I got turned up. You're talking about them height. I'm so happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so happy. You're saying shit with y'all. I got to stay in Y. Love it, block. Give it to God. I'm so happy to hear that, man. But yo, you know what? That was like, just in case you guys didn't know, that was like the highlight for my career. Like when I did Grimy Over, it was 100% an insolute to you guys. It was in respect. I ain't even know that. I always says that. I ain't even know that. You look at it, I always say, I just thought it's, you know. Yeah, man. I just jacked his Grimy jacket, I think. Oh, yeah, definitely. In Germany. Was it Germany? No, no. It was Germany. It was in a box. I had about two boxes I had half. And you just put it on. I said, go ahead, nigga. You go. I was like, this is yours? Yeah. My bad. I don't know where I'm going to take it. You go, you go. The shit, there too. But you know what the greatest shit is? If it wasn't for y'all. Right. Originally in that Grimy lifestyle, originally representing that Grimy lifestyle. She had been loading up really grimy. Because you know, you got to realize when I came out, at that moment, it was Puff Daddy. I was directly against Puff Daddy, meaning they had the shiny suits. The shiny suit era. They had the radio records. And I was making. What's wrong? You ain't not a dance? Well, yeah. I definitely am not a dance. Was that 96? That was 96. It was 97. 97. See, it ain't 96. No, see, it ain't 97. See, it ain't 97. But NRA came out at late 97. No, see, NRA came out 98. Oh, no, we met in 97, early 97. Well, we were promoting CNN. CNN, yeah. That's what that was like. That's a long time. It's kind of late 97. And then going into NRA. Is it in Miami? Yeah. He came through my store. He's a piece of Raleigh steak. I seen him, I used to go, I live out here. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. So now, describe that. Because like, you know, the fans know why I moved to Miami. Describe what made y'all choices to relocate to LA? Like, make LA y'all? Because we was hustling out here, hustling with these movies. You know what I'm saying? Then once you find the weather is good, the weed is good, you know what I'm saying? Like, where you going? You know what I'm saying? You go back home and New York can be freezing, and then when they be like, yo. Well, I can't. You know what I'm saying? But then that, you know what I'm saying? Just to hustle and just, you know, we been out here since 96. Damn. I can't even know that. Let's make some noise for them getting money since 96. You know what I'm saying? Because they been in LA without getting money. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. You might not even wait for 96, but. Yeah. I'm just saying, a lot of New York brothers, they ain't making home. Right. You know what I'm saying? They stayed out here. I mean, they got left out there, you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, no, I can't even lie to you. We can't do all of that. I can't even lie to you. I see so many New York people moving here and move back. And move back. That's why I know y'all stay. Now, we move back. You know what I'm saying? But LA base. Right. And they're working on a TV show. What did you like more? TV or movies? I like movies. You like movies? Yeah. Explain that for our listeners. Explain that. Put like this. I like whatever the Lord is blessing me with. You know what I'm saying? I don't take nothing for granted. The night of. The night of. The new shit that. I'm back today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The new shit, the night of. It was nominated for Golden Globe. Yeah, the night of. So when was you at when you got the call for that? I don't fucking know. Too drunk. I had to. I was probably out of acts. I was probably driving. You know, it was probably daytime. So yeah, probably even sleeping. Right. Woke up and was like, so that's how you choose role. Because you guys don't choose bad roles. So how do you choose? What's the time the road chooses you? They want you for this part. You know, like I still, but I did next Friday's. That wasn't in the script. And I went up there with Matt with him. He said, oh shit, he still got that crooked eye. He's gonna be the most little brother. I'm gonna say this. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. You should put some over shit. And when I left, they call like, yo, tell them to go. We want to see his eye. That part. Let's go deeper into debt with that. Well, that's Friday. No, that's Friday. Next Friday. Now, you already understand how much of a classic Friday is or you just wanted a role or you knew it. Uh, uh, I think both. both okay show me tomorrow show me tomorrow now how's that experience being the East Coast guy a New York listen listen listen listen listen to earth man yeah well it's like playing that world so much that everything's the fucking same everything architecture everything's the same except some places have different weather animals migrate different insects color people with small the fucking same right this table is different because this is wood and this one is steel gritty and wood table is a table that's a whole in the fucking floor you know you know you know that's the most thing about y'all career is I can see y'all still selling out like 50,000 like I be seeing y'all going places like y'all can talk y'all like a wrestler I know you know it's crazy it's so good because because I came out in 97 so yeah came out 92 93 92 okay so for me to see yeah my oh geez so for me to see y'all still out there still out there still looking good like how does that feel because this you know there's so many people got two records and they go on right and they go on literally yo Robb A still killing them ya ya ya Yo, I don't know that one two record you go I don't even know another So see he's showing his age Great so how do you feel about the new generation? I mean Averracks is so But but it was hip hop and that's the way we was interpreted the game at the time I'm saying so everything went kind of tight But that's but that's they think did 180 because it's kind of crazy right because when you look at like the furious And you look at like the beginning like how they was dressing with leather and all that it's kind of like that era now Kind of like because when you see like I see like people that they wear like things with no sir at all Earrings look at Michael Jackson, though his ever This whole shit was how would it but it was cool. It was hood. You ever met Michael Jackson? Never I used to Dave's cousin, but did you meet Michael Jackson? I met the mother Let's break down the cusses Billie Jean Oh Man we're gonna club Penny's man. He dances. It was hate and crazy. Oh you huh? I mean she was like it was showing me love. It's like a while ago. You know That's Everybody though Yeah, it's the long you ain't see walking down with you know, you know, I'm saying you miss Dostrop No, but I was Jackson I was like Yo, I heard he's a real nigga to early smoke and talk he talks it no I already like a real street nigga. That's my little you notice. He said that's his nigga. Let's make I Think about thinking a lot of people don't know you got a white Your white artist who can who can No, I mean she's a white Alicia Keys though like let's make her up like she sang in front of us just G Like and I was I was blown away because he said I want you yeah sing it. I'm looking at stick I'm like playing the target and she she got in front the hotel and blew it down Like I was impressed but like yeah, the good time in there I had a wonderful time, but like how like you gotta explain how how how Alternative your mind thinks you know I'm sad like to these people they say think outside of the box What box right? They say you're sticky man. We were a lot of hats man. Yeah, but they all go in the same head And you also also did a record with sticky This nigga directed the video. He was the PA He was the assistant He was the fucking he did Thing yo Like I'm not gonna lie. I'm so impressed that day because I'm sitting back I'm thinking he gonna have a you know, I think you're gonna have you know guys meet me. He came and met me He came and said we're gonna do it right here. We're gonna do like you really involved with everything And then you call me the other day we speaking and you're editing the fucking video Like how like you gotta explain to these young kids how does Why is this that's so important to you to be involved in every aspect of Because nobody can do it like I do it like You know He's an artist Major independent I did fragile drink Listen cuz we know you ain't drinking how long This he drink enough for both of us I'm like this nigga drink so much I never even asked with with with Fredra one drink because I've been hanging for so long Right. He just look at me and stick you like y'all drunk niggas just Y'all drunk niggas just keep going and this is the first time in years. You know what? I'm gonna drink on 57th Street on 57th Street. I remember I have a casual drink Social drinking Casual That's other so so now Onyx is on Let's the piece to big DS to X1 Before we even go further X1 you're DJing X1. No X1 was rocking with us the whole shut them down album God bless you was if you was he was a part of that album So look the big DS was so cool. So yeah, y'all had two losses. Oh, yeah No, I'm saying besides I wish you remember big DS. He died. Yeah, he died from the key and and and it's a lot of It's his guy named be ways He was the first producer for Onyx. He produced the on we do it like this record. We had a profile and um He was my man. We went to high school together and He died too before before the shit even popped off like On some rave shit, you know, I'm saying like You know, I mean so rest in peace to be with too because he never gets Any acknowledgement but he was the start of it. He was part of the start of it. You know what I'm saying? Still no publisher. Now you guys you guys been through The golden era every era you guys are actually people who know to pop and big Hmm, I want to you describe your relationship with to pop Pop was ill. I mean All right, he was cool with everybody. It wasn't like we had a one-on-one relationship You know what I'm saying was like when I see him He was cool. It was casual. It wasn't like we was calling each other company. You know what I'm saying? I see him out. So his respect Oh, he's were biggie two days before but he came but he came to the sunset park permit That's the picture everybody saw because he had a song on the soundtrack So when he came to the premiere I was like, oh shit. The snickers watching me on the screen You know what I'm saying? Like I would just be I'm watching the movie at the premiere. I'm like this My own you just look back at this snicker. He like this Like looking at me like you know, I'm enjoying yourself. You know what I'm saying? Wow This nigga because he didn't have to come through there. Can't do with the drop rose voice. The chug was there You know what I mean? This is in new york. I was in LA. It's flop. Okay. You know what I'm saying? You came through smoke the black He's an ass chug was there. Chug was there. I got I got an all foot to be on death row You know me, but I let him know I was rolling with jay My loyalty Hell no nigga I need to Describe this Life rolls off After the movie That's that park me real real prom and all that right We was in a parking lot after all that and she'll got this bad reputation like shaking artists at this time Okay, so he was like yo man Pop really pop pop really admire you. All right. I want you to be with you know death row I'm like, yo, I'm already with J. Master j. He's like We can work people work it up No, no crazy Just like on some real business. You like you can work it out. I'm like, all right And then we tried to like do things but it it ain't really it ain't work out. You know, I'm saying and now as he talked about you Or he's talking about I was just talking about me. Hmm I'm trying to figure and then he didn't have they didn't have death row east yet with Even like that, you know, I don't know how serious he was but it was thrown out there You know, and this is like I can't write this shit. Now. What was your relationship with big first off? Let me ask you um two pop a two pop memory We said riding danger field club the new york. Tell me That you ain't riding the danger field club. That's hard Rodney danger. We had a club Shit I was a loser for a long time I was in club that 14 I don't know what we just went for So you went to bro Oh So you ain't got you and riding the danger field club They walked up to y'all like your own shit, man I was drinking honey after time too. I remember but it was a honey and red ball or something like that Or maybe it's hanging a spray. Now. What error was this? What this was too? Before death row. You know what? All no errors. There are no fucking generation All right Okay, so now so now What's the memory you're gonna share biggie small? With me big Man a lot a lot we're using the studio doing that record with him You know, you know why back in the days with such and so much of a better time. I know Time it's got primitive but at least stuck in the best. We at least we did records in the same fucking studio You got a record with big two? No He's supposed to be on tny remix. Right. Believe it or not I don't know if that shit Jesse West was the producer Jesse West Yes, your own back On your radio No, no, I'm saying that's the same dude from crew the group crew. Jesse West was the crew Oh, I think Jesse West produced crew. I don't think he was a part of crew I think he didn't run on it. Yeah, I think so, but he was doing with puff at the time. Yeah. Yeah They had the record with super cat Yes, yes, I'm back again I like Jay was like, yo, she was like, yo this kid ain't Biggies in the studio puff want you to go through. I'm like, who? I was like just go to the studio. So we went to the studio Naughty by nature was in there Big was in there. It was it was ill man. That's the first time I ever heard his voice Like I didn't even know who he was the first time I heard his voice I think I just looked up to the sky like this Like like oh shit like first time I heard his voice like Yeah, right. No, but but not but not like intimidated but like yo This is so ill like that was a fan. You know what I'm saying? Like It was biggie Smalls. You know what I'm saying? This is what that dude was the same nigga. All right So did you think he was gonna he's gonna blow because I knew it. You knew it I knew from his flow or from the first time I heard everything the first time I heard the nigga behind the mic First time he laid this verse. I was like this What's up everyone? I'm ego vote of my next guest, you know from stepbrothers anchorman saturday night live and The big money players network It's will ferrell My dad gave me the best advice ever I went and had lunch with him one day and I was like and dad. I think I want to really give this a shot I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place They come look for up and coming talent. He said if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you Which is really sweet. Yeah, he goes, but there's so much luck involved And he's like just give it a shot He goes but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore It's okay to quit if you saw it written down. It would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of you know The cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be Right, it wouldn't be that there's a lot of luck. 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We have an incredible new episode this week for you guys We have our girl hillary duff in here and we can't wait for you to hear this episode They put on lizzie maguire 2am video on demand this guy's 2am Whatever time it is lizzie maguire and i'm wild wild back you were with It was like a first like closet moment for me where I was like, you're like, I don't feel like she's hot like the rest of them No, no, no, I was like, she's beautiful, but I'm appreciating her in a different way than these boys are. I'm not like Listen to last school trees. That's on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast I'm anna navarro and on my new podcast bleep with anna navarro I'm talking to the people closest to the biggest issues happening in your community and around the world because I know deep down inside right now We are all cursing and asking what the bleep is going on I'm talking to people like julie k brown who broke the explosive story on jeffrey hebstin in 2018 These victims have been let down time and time again for decades and decades and decades by local law enforcement by federal law enforcement by administration after administration the justice department Through I think we counted four presidential administrations failed these victims Listen to bleep with anna navarro as part of the mykultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts Is that the time other than heavy deed it wasn't oh you got to relax though The other other than that other than heavy deed it wasn't no Like over overweight, you know the fat boys the fat boys. Yeah, but I mean even the fat boys wasn't considered lyrical Not it wasn't but That error wasn't about lyricism Just i'm saying just i'm saying like um that's that's my question is like Like because I think biggies uh specialty was having a great grimy record and then a great Radio record at the same time and that had never been done at that time. Did you Well his first album didn't really have no radio records really no No, except uh One more chance, but then the remix is what really the remix. Yeah the remix to one more chance Juicy was the other one and that's right Like break his arm for that record. Yeah, so we had never seen nobody like that. No, it was fly. Yeah It was ill and then when you think about it when you think about big, right? He was too big to ever fit facet So all the facet you saw was actually Troy from 5001 was custom name. Was it? Yeah, that was never that was never a Real facet. Yeah, we took two facet shirts and put them together Actually You also the over 40 you have a record with Eminem two of us and I feel like you tried to kill him Never I saved lives but And we also heard Eminem say you want his favorite MC So let's just describe that like just just working with Eminem And it's true. You know what he's fucking hilarious in the studio. They had me like laugh for like six hours straight Like you know when he's in the mind doing this shit. He's like he's the fucking comedian. All right. You know what I'm saying? All right and and so Is that was that like an ultimate goal because you you are lyricist like at the end of the day Was what ultimate goal like, you know to to because that he's considered a super lyricist like you know what I'm saying? Like was that an ultimate goal to like to get on the record and like because there's some people that say sticky body Eminem The only person that body Eminem on the record only I don't know if you heard that room But I'm sure you did the only niggas. I ain't body. That's the ones I never did a song with Let's make some noise for that. God damn it So what's next what's next for audience? Oh man Yeah, nigga, this is how it is. It's a shot time. Is it shot time? No, no, no We rockin like I said, we got the hour dope dody coming in we on a vibe Like we didn't try to come with that boom back type of you know what I'm saying? Like we used to shit like we let them Choose the way it falls production and we rockin on a vibe and we used to they from again They from um, Netherlands never never. Yeah, so the album shotgun They got no sit amps. They got a lot of money. Let's make some noise But these Get the fuck out of here Dope dody they they they a touring group. We're touring group. No, yeah You know I'm saying to rock with these little niggas. They like 25 years old So the millennials saying like be with new artists We we we've become a new artist through younger artists too. You know I'm saying that's the Younger artist become old. Yes, because we because we Have time for you. So it doesn't like a generation gap. You know I'm saying but we but we like almost like the same You know I'm saying A light but do you do y'all realize how blessed y'all like like for real because y'all talk like a wrestler You know a wrestler a wrestler's on the tour Next week you said to like a wrestler a rap, you know, the niggas talk Them niggas talk 300 days a year Sony Right, right. That's why they make me die We just do like little two-week runs come back home to the kids But where is the two-week runs culture? Exactly, okay. So you that's how what we was in germany. We was in germany together. We was in No, no, we did wasn't in russia. We didn't we did follow on the guy Yeah You know What country you haven't gone to but you but it's crazy because you see everybody over there like you see like Slick rate you see Like real hip-hop survive. Yeah. Yeah. You see you see you see people over you see many airports. Yo, what's up? Yo, they like what up? We're going. Yo, we're going to africa Like you know, I'm in i'm in Amsterdam one day stress. I can't find a cigar for nothing busy b comes Busy b comes to me. It was like i'm going to get some new ports and they got sick No, what's wrong the same place. I'm here. So god You're seeing busy b Put me on to where to get um cigars Because it was all joints and I was like, I'm cool with joints, but i'm a cigar nigger. You know, i'm so We got you on your rosa, you know, we've been doing that for about at least five years. It's strong And I've been just just the thing is I'd be trying to tell new artists. Yeah Is you want to make timeless music? You want to make your whole body of work? something to To be proud of because When you go to Europe, they don't call out your singles They call out your album cuts And they'd be like, I want that and I want this So that's why you want your whole body of work to be crazy because you don't just want to have to just keep performing Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. You want to That's great record They want to hear I mean that's now But what i'm saying is if you make a whole body of work where you can Be proud of that you can talk for the rest of your life. You ever performed black vagina finder Yep, I think we did. No, not a long time. No, you know what? Wait before that shit in 20 years Damn I'm sorry. What? The next thing a dick we performed that's the name of the song. Let's call the next nigga I'm still confused, but I'm in I'm in You got to get you got to get goos, but yeah Oh, shit Drink You guys Classic You're right though. We had no breakfast that morning. Yeah. Yeah, we was hungry. Okay. Okay. Okay Because I feel like I gotta go back to the breakfast. We are going back. That's so funny Yeah, we got some that's family right there. Yeah, I gotta go back because um and more ways to one You gotta realize you know what I realize as being a media all for media is just wanting to entertainment It's just for that moment until it's not yeah, but All for in the game I ain't walk out the building like steaming meaning, you know, same. We de-dapt it up and took the picture Did the drops and all of that wasn't like niggas was Throwing shit in the fucking studio I'm too old for that. Yeah, you see the bird man one. It was I thought it was gone. Yeah, they got this shit going. Yeah, I mean that And that's what you know dream chance. We all um, but that was her respect on it. Well It's just so y'all know our show is based on giving our legends flowers. What number is it? No, this is the new season. This is totally new season late 70 If we was Pirates, what'd you say? No, no, no Our show is based on giving our legends flowers when they can smell them Giving them their trees when they can hell them One thing I feel like our coach has suffers from is the fact that we don't big each other Right and we don't you don't tell the next man how awesome they are or how they influenced us And that's what we suffer when you look at golf bro. So you look at All they look these motherfuckers is touring these motherfuckers and their coach is supporting them So did I think that we would do this show and it would be this big? No, but so that shows you that We do we do do those things my heart was in the right place and that's that's what this show is about It's about saluting our legends and letting our legends know that you're appreciated And we don't want to do that when you're dead. We want to do that when you're alive And the fact that we got 16 and 24 year olds listening to this It's like some people we rediscovered like they like what? Oh, I'm so glad you put me on to You know, David Banner Like that's like what you just got put on a David Banner you fucking it is but it's like, but I don't say that So in my mind definitely do but it's just only my mind I was on the plane like a couple of years ago. I was like, you know, we came game over on DFC He was like, who? So now everybody know everybody that you think that you know, I'm saying. Yeah Yeah, so that's what our show is based on and tonight the only why we even consider ourselves legends is we came in a game with legends Well, let me tell you something it takes something to be you know, I'm saying to to to absorb that If you didn't consider yourself a legend, I can't I mean I'm telling you face to face man to man That you are if people tell me I'm a legend, right and I look up to you It's no way you can't be a legend onyx the whole movement everything you guys did you change the face of culture You change the face of how people party. I remember before that era people used to just listen to music and be cool And you guys change the era like swat nigga Swat mother fucker go in the crowd. I'm gonna say we changed. I'm gonna say we added on to it Now you changed I ain't gotta be humble Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be arrogant for you and tell you that you changed it and I'm so proud to know you. I'm so proud to be friends with you guys. I'm so proud to Acknowledge. I'm so proud to have you guys phone numbers and be able to hang out But rock with us for you. You even on the fire star album. Yeah, but listen Don't I don't ever I know I probably told you I know I probably told it to you off camera and orc But it's To you on camera right that onyx is super mother fucking legends Right, your mother fuckers. I was I watched all y'all movies I I supported everything you guys did and then guess what now that I got a platform that will never stop I will always continue to support I just want y'all to know come on. Let's keep smoking. Is it shot time? I feel like it's shot time I feel like it's shot time It's shot time. Yo, and it seems like y'all revitalize and I might be wrong run DMC went to down with the king error like it feels like we up with the case No, but you know, you're so crazy because we creating the next generation now You know what I'm saying as far as even with the you our kids like we having kids back to back to back to back Like, you know, I'm sorry. It's crazy. Like the next generation is So I think the whole that whole aura of us is growing up being men Right Having families and you know what I'm saying our kids is almost the same age think about you know what I'm saying like Three two one he having another one So my first Sunday was on it 2014 16 steps, you know what I'm saying we rockin right now. That is hard Did y'all I would think that y'all legacy would last this long when y'all first started? I thought I'd be dead by 23. Damn. You said 21. Yes. I said 21 I think everybody come everybody come in and think like that like because so many people die around us Every day bummed out is a blessing because it can anything Anything so you just gotta live live like that. Now. What's the movie? I'm sad you know Like we always heard what's the moment you said I gotta chill I mean I really want to celebrate your legacy I'm in the moment. Everything is now Right you gonna smoke a new walk I'll take a new walk break with you You keep it going No, no, no, no, no All right, I should I should have one with the vodka I'm been rocking with this Oh, I should have rocked with this to rock Casual drink easy, right? I'm fucked up All right, let's go Have you ever been disappointed in hip hop? Da ha Yeah Every year it's been a corny record since you came to me corny records. So you can't say all this The corny shit somehow be It was in the streets I can't I think it sounds better now. It was in the streets. Who I made was in the shoes. It's like it's always that shit Well, what I'm trying to understand what you're saying. Are you because I loved all those records that you just named That's what I'm saying, but you saying I wasn't supposed to It was corny records Oh, what a corny people. I think the records just go I think it's just corny records I think it's just corny records I think it's just corny records I think the records just go there was just corny the whole shit was corny Listen, a jeans guy is too much but it's too impersonal Exactly, Vinella Ice I'm not saying they corny, but come on, son I mean, it's farce. Real hip hop what we represent of course is considered corny. Not that disrespect what they do Did you hear that? Vinella Ice is good man. Got a problem with Vinella Ice, man. Come on stop it I like caramel macchiatoes, dude Who? I like my big bottle And muck, I have pink And y'all got an artist right? You can bring your chair over there, Southside, come over there. You Southside? Yeah Are you from Southside? Chicago? I'm from Georgia Oh, yeah, I was different Where you from? I thought you were from America, son I thought you were from Chicago, Southside Oh, shit Queens? Is there anyone else? Southside Chicago is going Yeah, well, shot Ragnin What's up? Now, now I'm old Y'all, I'm gonna take an Uber I'm never taking an Uber I say I'ma stay here What's up? Shit Now, Southside, how old are you, Southside? You're 32 This bottle ain't even half, wait a minute Do you understand these guys' legacy? I kinda, when I be listening to you and other people and stuff, I kinda But these are my big brothers, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I suggest You had a nigga for it? Yeah, no, I do But I suggest you, like, one day, for a week Because it's gonna take you a week Just Google everything Look at everything These guys are just gonna take you a year No, I'm talking about enough to come back and talk You're not at one hour Because, yo, these guys, I'm personally Direct descendant of their music I'm personal I'm personally a direct descendant of them I'm personally, like, if they didn't make Ragnin Uh-uh If they didn't make that I wouldn't have made Grimy Because we came with that word And I wanted to I wanted to To compliment that I wanted to, you know, keep that going I still got a season to this day, nigga Damn To this day, nigga Still got your hairline though, you know I got my hairline though It's receding, it's coming My Puerto Rican side holding me there Black side been leaving me for years My black side said, fuck you Yo, you're still there Black side said, I ain't fucking with you My point of these sides said I'm gonna hold you down But, no, I know a lot about my nigga But just listening to these dudes right here, dawg Like, I listen to the new generation You know, I'm a fan of Lil Wayne And Drake and all that But I can honestly say, man These two dudes right here Some of the hardest MCs I ever heard That's right, that's right And not only that Like, when you came in the game back then You had to have like A cold sign You had to have somebody that meant something To the world To get you on And if that person was that ill They wouldn't even test you And the fact that they got put on Jam Master Is one of the illest stories In hip-hop, like when I see the NWA movie I love it When I see and hear about the Tupac movie I love it When I look at the notorious big movie I love it But I can't actually tell you Direct, like I got something to do with Right, yo, just finish writing the Onyx book This is where we're talking about Biopin This is where we're going I need a role to You play Jeff Harris Jeff Harris Listen Listen I'm about to spread your rules Listen It's too late I'm playing Jam Master In the next movie I'm spreading the rules This is the role you're gonna play You're gonna play Jeff Harris Jeff Harris Onyx manager He was a garbage man I feel like he did y'all wrong I feel like I'm getting into Jam Master You got to manage the whole thing Let's scratch that Get out of jail Please, I'm Jam Master You know how ill that is for me to try You gotta be a little more darker I'll beat I'll be a dermatologist Who's gonna take this role? What am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? I want one serious role in my life I can see what you're doing You talk about Jeff Harris He was the fifth member onyx He's the fifth successful One for me I feel like Jam Master I feel like I can pull it off I'm gonna hit on you for five months I forgot he was five months I need to know everything I need to know now Now, but in the real world, we trying to get the movie Five months I need to know now Now, but in the real world, we trying to get the movie What's that called? I'll find it I mean, everybody got a story I'll find it I'll find it I'll find it I'll find it I'll find it Everybody got a story, but that's how you tell it I think the onyx story is crazy Because it's hip hop We came out of the game It was kind of like rebels to the game Like giving a fuck It was kind of funny in a way On some hardcore shit First thing to shoot up the salsa was Let's talk about the shooting What happened? Let's talk about the shooting What happened? Let's talk about the shooting What happened? Allegedly Allegedly something that He cut Right, yo, but If anybody wants shit I'm still in Let's take a drink of water You can test my shit You know how long me in Test the salsa What you drinking? Salsa water I like my vodka clear I like my vodka clear I like the beat What's something wrong? Brown nigga? It is I don't know I black out on brown I wake up and nigga use butt naked Like what? Salsa water I just saying Gotta throw that out there I just wake up different I gotta be a sponsor Only brown Only brown This is for Kaden What's up everyone? 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We are all cursing and asking what the bleep is going on I'm talking to people like julie k brown who broke the explosive story on jeffrey ebbstein in 2018 These victims have been let down time and time again for decades and decades and decades by local law enforcement by federal law enforcement by administration after administration the justice department Through I think we counted four presidential administrations failed these victims Listen to bleep with anna navarro as part of the mykultura podcast Available on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Hey, you stole me stills moga, right? Come on. I'm gonna be real I thought we were supposed to take a shot Oh We can do tops then come on, baby And we also got deli on and the smooth tequila you can hit it from the bottle bottle But look sticky I gotta I gotta keep it real you drink if you drink rime and xo that's like the smooth Yeah, but guess what that's the good look look look look look look I'm gonna have to drop top And I never had the fuck a ace heat blasted on a heat whatever so I was putting with the funk in coca-cola In the ice you mixed that no first. I trained kid by yourself this This is my taking myself I'm taking by yourself the henny you mentioned I said fuck that splurge nigga Hmm Cuz it acts so I'm supposed to mix it up and you taking this shot of um, um See I rock with only that cognac I'm good bro Give me a shot pick up pick up to my nigga pup That's It'll be a time space continue on if you drink this shit right here I'm Shalom The lady was like That was horribly gray Let's see see pause listen It's horribly gray My I need sticky fingers to direct a video oh shit How can we make that happen apparently he's gonna do everything directed producing the most No, I see them on set how I see them on set like he ain't playing so you want to do it Oh So we can do I want to do a black and white A black and white in california somewhere I love you here for we can do it tomorrow I just don't know if I get the budget open tomorrow It's a friend of a man. You gotta do the homeboy management for me. I'm ready I'm ready. But now I'm dead serious. I really like I was so impressed that day like how much Why I don't want to use those cameras that's for sure. Why is those camera? Because I'm just We're in the full camera by the way My name is I'm a forward visionary Now But this is great for our What cameras do you recommend telling them shit? Not the red because I Fuck the red Everybody's got ideas. Everybody's creative. You know You guys I wanted him to use these cameras I'm gonna show you a video before we leave too Now I'm acting drunk because I just felt like that was my role that day To act drunk, but I'm watching this nigga. This nigga's like no These guys are they they shoot it low. He's like This is what we're gonna do. I'm looking at him. He'd be jumping the car We do the u-turn illegal u-turn on hollywood boulevard. No, no, no, no. It wasn't illegal This nigga's drunk. That's your But now I was so impressed and I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna just get only the only um Advice I would say is that I just wanted this video to be black and white. That's it Like but I would I would want to do this Not to me that we did I'm talking about the new one the one I'm gonna do. It's called I've been that nigga. You know what I'm saying? All right, I think I heard that you know Up Yeah Big up I liked it the fact that he actually went out supported Charlemagne, yeah, I actually I actually thought that was kind of dope because that's what we got to do in hip-hop and hip-hop We got to stop worrying about what people think of what we do like if I'm in LA above anywhere you at you got a show I'm coming the same way. I gotta thank y'all. I remember I did a festival And I had just left them on tour and I see them niggas tear that stage down You had to come after that right now we came out with him. He came out with us, right? Slam I did it too, but I can be wrong I see these niggas shutting down the Europe so crazy And I called them niggas and y'all actually came With me And I was the only Queens niggas to bring out some other Hey Be honest man y'all such legends man And you know like I said our show was meant to give our legends flowers when they can smell them and then hell I'm and I'll be God gosh goddamn Buck Jolly G if we're not gonna spend this whole fucking time The same language and you did too Up I followed the game, he's mad annoying. He tagged me on every single thing. I'm about to unfollow him. You know his name, let me be the one to follow him. Unfollow him. I'm gonna unfollow him. I'm following him. Right, yo, do you want to do that same for it? I want to do what he wants to do. No, I want to do what he wants to do. I'm gonna take a bibibri. I want to do that same for him. I want to do what he wants to do. And then we're gonna keep, we're gonna do what he wants to do. I want to do what he wants to do, so boy, that was all. I knew he was on Dev Jane with the Reggaeton. Yeah, that was a Dev Jane with the Reggaeton. He wasn't that familiar, but not really. He did shit that good. But the green one, see, you been doing that. You talking about me with that. I was gonna use it to shit that out. You be shit. That's why I recognized you. That's what that was. That's how you do it. The algorithms. Yeah, the algorithms. That was a very big word. Spell it. Spell it. We good? I teed. Are you recording? No, yeah. We're from algorithms on, we're good. Algorithms. That's our next song together, algorithm. Algorithm. I don't even know what it means. We're good. Algorithm. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. So, we back. You guys. We never left. Honk into music. You did what you had to do on TV and movies. Combined it both. Is it about putting on the next artist? Or is it about setting off the next legacy right now? What's more important? It looks like a king can do. And the most dangerous thing to do is make another king. You know what I'm saying? That's deep. Just like J.A.P. J put us in position. It's the natural progression to put things in position. And you know, it goes both ways. Put some in position, but it gives you a way to fucking, you know, just fucking exhaust your talents in other areas and shit. You know what I'm saying? What's that shit? Is that saying for you, Fred? Oh man. This thing turned into a deep talk show. You know, I got a lot of fan. I got a lot of fan. You're good right now. Slime war. Slime war. Slime war. Slime war. Slime war. Slime war. Then they can take you over. I definitely do sometimes. Then you will recognize me. Then you will recognize me. I definitely do sometimes. What? I'm saying, I'm saying, after everything you guys already accomplished, already did, what's the ultimate goal? Is it now to make somebody a star? Or is it? The ultimate goal? Don't ask me that question. I don't. Consistency or continuing consistency? What was the question? You asked me. That's what I'm saying. You said that was a good question? No, no, no. The question I was saying is like, after all the things you guys done, to make somebody a star. You conquered music. You can't make a star. No, I'm saying, what is the next thing? What's the next thing? Yeah, what's the next thing? Because you guys conquered. Listen, the future is a mystery. And the past is history. But today is a gift. Today is the day of the call of presence. Right. The next thing is this thing. I'm gonna stand here and apologize to you. I'm gonna stand right now. No, no, no. I'm serious, nigga. He is. I'm gonna make it out here tonight. You don't know what's going on. Okay? So everything's right now. You looking to tomorrow. You better figure out today, nigga. So that's my question. My question is. The question got mad complicated off. No, no, you're sticking me, my question. I'm mad complicated off. You're sticking to it. You're sticking to it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm he doing it. No, but what I'm saying is. What are you saying? You know what I'm saying is, like, honestly, like you guys really conquered music. Hip hop was a bitch. Y'all niggas fucked her in every hole, right? You did everything you could do in hip hop. A lot of people, a lot of us, everybody did. Right, right? You did everything in hip hop. You did everything. A lot of people, I mean. You did everything. We put like this, we put our part. Your badge would have been this. We made a mark in hip hop. You know what I'm saying? And the mark is still making marks. Once you establish yourself as an established artist. And you. You still gotta keep establishing it. You just need chess. I feel like, you know what I mean? You solidify yourself in the book of hip hop. Which is nice. That's not true, man. Solidify yourself. The last time I've been reading shit, I'm like, we're in a fucking earnings. So fuck that. It's like, you know what I mean? Libra, tip for tap. That's the thing. A couple of hip hop books we ain't in. Fuck that. We can't put everybody in it. Yeah, I ain't everybody. All right, that's true. Watch. I love this right now. All right. I'm just throwing it out there. This is you. God damn it. This is you. Yo, yo, yo. You know, I'm the watchman. I'm not that good. I can't make this shit up, right? Shut up. I'm not that good. I can't make this shit up, right? Yeah, it's easy. I'm damn it. If he ain't playing the same. I didn't know nothing about it. You know, the breakfast club, the highest ratings. All right, yes. Y'all, y'all are. Yeah. But, but, but, cause it even seemed like you were thrown off on that breakfast club interview when the refresher went on. Because it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just. It's always like, you know what I want. And Fredros, but that day, Fredros. No, you're gonna fuck that up. The past is the history. The past is the history. The past is the history. You know what this city was just talking about? Yeah. Yo, yo, chill out son, chill out son, chill out son. Fredros, I know you very well. You were a nigga fresher. I never see you mad like that. I wasn't mad. I was a man. I never see you throw up. When I get mad, niggas get fucked up. Right, right, I never see you throw up. When I'm mad, niggas get fucked up. So what? I wasn't mad. What, what, what were we calling? Throwing off? And cut. You was throwing off? I wasn't throwing off. We not throwing off. I throw niggas off. Right, right, right. I'm never throwing off, nigga. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Right. Strap, first movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so sick. Please, nigga. I gotta go with some kids, man. I gotta put the kids to sleep, man, nigga. All right, you. Ow. All right, brother, brother. Hold on, hold on, we gotta do it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We gotta do a bitch head, man. Let's do it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. All right, gotcha. Thanks, mama. I'll fucking make a move. The past is history. What's the shit? Yeah, yeah, I forgot. The past, you said it again. Yeah, you're right. Right now, this is the history. That is the history. I'm gonna fucking check. This is the history. And, and, and, and see, this is the history. Drink your water. I'm gonna drink your water. And act as if it's drunk. But I was like, how did that come about? Nah, it's a joke. Come on, this, this. Look, you ain't as good going back like Stoiosus, man. That, he's on the fire stuff. I'll go, I'll go, I'll say. Let's make some noise for that, goddamn. Woo! Not for Stoiosus, though. It's up on the fire. It's on the fire. I'll be in the, I'll be in the, I'll be in the, I'll be in the, I'll be in the, I'll be in the, I'll be in the, Let's go. Yeah, I'll be in the. Way out of context. Uh huh. So, dude, oh, you gotta go. You gotta go, you gotta go. Nah, we take the flaker. Okay, good. Let's fucking out. Let's close it up. Let's close it. No, no, no, no. I thought, the way he was. But just close it up. Yeah. I don't want to keep going. Like, it's honest. I don't want to keep going. I want to keep being in. Yeah, she's on the shoulders right now. She's, she's on the shoulders. Get him kidnapped. You need two cameras. So, like, proper. Let's close the house. And, and just before we close. Before we close everything out. always late a little bit. Before we close everything out, I'm playing Jam Master J and the Onyx. No, Jeff, no, no, no. It's a good role. He was a barbish man. Yo, did he became the manager? Well, you gotta knock on your teeth out though. Yo, man, be faggots. They like put some shit over it. You gotta have one tooth and you gotta bite your cigarettes. Yo, do it. Can you do that? I'll show you. I'll show you. But who you got in mind to play Jam Master J? I don't know. That's alright with a name. Steve, he was going over here. I'm going to your artist concert right now. Please, Steve, please, Steve. Go for Austin. Please, please. Come on, Fred. I'm texting you later. I need to be Jam Master J. I'm going to do Jam Master J. You gotta see how you do it. Yo, you gotta see how you turn things. Yo, you gotta do it. You gotta do it. You gotta do it. When I said that shit, I started the whole war. Nigga threw a cigarette black thing at me to do it. And I started the whole fucking war. Please, Steve. When I said that shit, I said you started it. I was like, deal with that. Jam Master J shit? Yeah, come on. Sorry. I'm voicing him. I'm going to his artist concert right now. Come on, let's do it. You gotta do go to the scratch gallery. He's got a wrestling set. He did scratch gallery. See, now he can listen. This is Weezy WTF from Decisions Decisions. Ladies, let's talk about taking control of our sexual health. That's grown woman energy. 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