Amanda Serrano on Puerto Rico’s FIRST undisputed champ, Katie Taylor fights & future of women’s boxing
49 min
•Apr 2, 202617 days agoSummary
Amanda Serrano, Puerto Rico's first undisputed boxing champion, discusses her historic career achievements, the evolution of women's boxing pay and recognition, her competitive fights with Katie Taylor, and her role in elevating the sport for future female fighters through her MVP promotion.
Insights
- Women's boxing has historically suffered from severe pay disparity—Serrano earned $1,500 for early championship fights versus millions today, demonstrating the sport's recent market correction
- Breaking gender pay barriers requires public transparency; Serrano's announcement of her $1M purse forced Katie Taylor's team to negotiate equal pay, setting precedent for future negotiations
- Multi-division championship success requires significant weight management sacrifice; Serrano fights at 155 lbs despite being a natural 126 lb featherweight, highlighting the physical toll of chasing legacy records
- Women's boxing growth is directly tied to fighter marketability and entertainment value; Serrano's aggressive fighting style and willingness to take risks attracts audiences more than defensive boxing
- Platform consolidation matters: ESPN partnership for MVP women's roster signals mainstream media validation and broader revenue opportunities for female athletes
Trends
Women's boxing gaining mainstream media coverage through ESPN deals and major venue headlining (Madison Square Garden)Pay equity in combat sports becoming negotiable through competitive leverage and public transparency tacticsMulti-division championship pursuits becoming career-defining legacy metrics for elite female boxersFighter-as-promoter model emerging; athletes like Serrano building rosters and controlling fighter developmentSneaker culture and athlete endorsement deals becoming significant revenue streams for female boxersMMA offering competitive compensation packages that force traditional boxing promotions to increase fighter pursesUndisputed championship status becoming critical marketing tool for international recognition and premium pricingYoung female boxer development programs creating pipeline of talent with improved compensation from debutCross-sport athlete comparisons (boxing vs MMA) driving compensation transparency and competitive biddingPuerto Rican boxing legacy being revitalized through female champions after male-dominated era
Topics
Women's boxing pay equity and contract negotiationUndisputed championship status and multi-division titlesKatie Taylor vs Amanda Serrano rivalry and fight scoringMadison Square Garden female headlining eventsWeight class management and fighter healthMVP promotion and women's boxing roster developmentESPN partnership for women's boxing broadcastFemale boxer mentorship and talent pipelineBoxing vs MMA compensation comparisonPuerto Rican boxing legacy and cultural impactKnockout record pursuit and career legacy metricsFighter-promoter business modelJudging bias and scoring controversies in boxingFemale athlete endorsement dealsCombat sport entertainment value vs defensive strategy
Companies
ESPN
MVP women's boxing roster signed exclusive broadcast deal; first official ESPN broadcast April 17th at Madison Square...
MVP (Most Valuable Promotions)
Serrano's promotion company managing 40+ female boxers; pioneering women's boxing promotion with ESPN partnership
Hard Rock Bet
Sports betting platform offering tournament boosts and bonus bets; primary episode sponsor
Sky Sports
UK broadcaster for MVP women's boxing debut on April 5-6; international distribution partner
Liberty (sports team ownership)
Mentioned in context of female ownership in sports; owner discussed women's boxing pay equity issues
People
Amanda Serrano
Puerto Rico's first undisputed champion; seven-division world champion; highest-paid female boxer; MVP founder
Katie Taylor
Olympic gold medalist; three-time opponent of Serrano; pound-for-pound elite female boxer; Irish champion
Joe Crack
Co-host of podcast; conducted interview with Serrano; discussed boxing industry trends
Jada
Co-host of podcast; participated in interview and discussion with Serrano
Jordan
Serrano's trainer and manager; negotiated $1M purse deal; husband of Cindy Serrano
Cindy Serrano
Amanda's sister; former champion; inspired Amanda to enter boxing; New York Hall of Famer
Christy Martin
Pioneer female boxer with 32 knockout record; benchmark for Serrano's knockout pursuit
Layla Ali
Early female boxing champion; predecessor in women's boxing spotlight and recognition
Erica Cruz
Mexican fighter; opponent in Serrano's undisputed championship fight; memorable toe-to-toe battle
Alicia Baumgarner
MVP roster fighter; headlining ESPN debut April 17th at Madison Square Garden
Elise Soto
20-year-old prospect managed by Serrano; 10-0 record with 9 knockouts; rising star
Crystal Rosado
Puerto Rican fighter; earned more on pro debut than Serrano earned at championship level
Melissa Hernandez
Puerto Rican champion; lacked spotlight despite talent; example of historical pay disparity
Miguel Cotto
Puerto Rican boxing legend; Serrano fought for $4,000 championship compared to his era earnings
Tito Trinidad
Puerto Rican boxing legend; cultural icon; Serrano compared to his impact on island
Roy Jones Jr.
Sparring partner anecdote; nearly knocked out Serrano during training session
Diego Corrales
Boxing legend known for aggressive fighting style; influence on Serrano's entertainment-first approach
Giro Gatti
Referenced as example of fighters willing to engage in knockdown exchanges
Quotes
"I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first. And then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to."
Amanda Serrano•Opening/closing segment
"I became the first on the Spirit of Champion for Puerto Rico because we needed something. We needed to have something over everybody else."
Amanda Serrano•Early interview
"When I go back to that, well, I live on the island, but when I'm there, people are like, man, you giving us excitement the way Tito used to give us excitement."
Amanda Serrano•Mid-interview
"I'm the first female to get a million dollars. And I say the first because it was a Katie Taylor fight... we have to show women that we can do it. We broke that barrier. We broke that ceiling."
Amanda Serrano•Late interview
"Empowered women empower women. And that's what I'm going to continue to do. And I love it. And I love seeing these girls grow."
Amanda Serrano•Closing segment
Full Transcript
I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first. And then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to. Plus, these girls don't hit that hard. So maybe if they hit hard, I'll be a little like keep my hand up. But no. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This Joe Crack the Dawn. Know who it is, your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And we ain't gonna stop. Talk slow for him. We ain't going to stop destroying y'all. At the rapidest pace you ever seen in this space. I ain't never seen no shit like that. Get ahead. Before ever in history. Now you talking my shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, kiss. When you think of today's guest, you think of the real deal. You think of Dominic. Female. You hear me? You think of dominant female. Puerto Rican. South Park. You think of 31 KOs. You think of multiple unified champions. You think of multi-division championships. Five-time WBAN WBAN Fighter of the Year Damn That can't be easy Ladies and gentlemen Make some noise for our guests Amanda the Real Deal Saran Woo! Thank you, that sound amazing You can keep going and going and going Coming out of your mouth, your voice I loved it. My intro just made for you to say that. That's why I know I did a good job. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's truly an honor to be here with big bro Joe and Jada. Watch your show. Love it to death. Always cheering you on. I'm super proud of both of you guys. You feel... Thank you. Thank you. But it's like you're like an extended cousin on the show. We talk about you. I know. You've probably been mentioned in at least 25, 30 of our show. I know. Sometimes I see it. I'm like, well, Joe still remembers me. Come on. It ain't too many like you. You know, we talk about Puerto Rico. We talk about so many championship boxes. And then you being a female, because I don't care in whatever perspective, whatever game, whatever job, whatever everything. they always it's always harder for a female no matter what i don't care what people say now women are becoming bosses and everything but still but when i see them talk about the legendary boxes now they giving it up to you puerto rico the homeland is saying no you know they got to facing Trinidad, you Afredo, all the legends of all, and you're on there. Yeah. Like, how does that feel to be acknowledged like that? So surreal, you know, being next to those big names, coming from our small island, but we have so many great champions, big champions. It's truly an honor. And, man, I wanted to give back to Puerto Rico, something that we never had, and that was becoming Undisputed Champion. And I did that. I became the first on the Spirit of Champion for Puerto Rico because we needed something. We needed to have something over everybody else. And I'm glad I gave that to them to this day. When I go back to that, well, I live in the island, but when I'm there, people are like, man, you giving us excitement the way Tito used to give us excitement. And I'm like, for real, when I fall on the big stage, they tell me that the streets are empty. when my fight is on, the streets are empty. And that's something I get goosebumps just thinking about it. I get emotional because, like, wow, a little girl from Bushwick that grew up in Bushwick but born in Puerto Rico, but I stood true to my roots, my Puerto Rican roots, and they love me and I'm so glad that I'm able to give them something back. Fine. That's great. How did it feel to be the first female to headline a fight at Madison Square Garden? Man, that was something I never thought would happen. It wasn't in the picture. It wasn't something that us girls growing up in the sport or starting the sport, we had something to... We see men headlining. We saw it like me as a Puerto Rican, as a Tito, Miguel Cotto. But it never was a female doing that. So I never pictured that that would happen for a female. but to do that it was something amazing it was an amazing night to sell it out not once but twice and shoot a movie shut up shut up the girl you fought the girl cause she ain't no joke either no Katie Taylor she's a gold medalist Olympic gold medalist she's pound for power it's me her and and Clarissa all pound for power three on the list always always listen people don't know I only had nine amateur fights I only I started in 2007. I was in Golden Gloves in 2008. That was my last fight as an amateur. I never left New York. So to be in there with an amazing, talented woman, she had over 200 wins as an amateur. She started when she was five. I started when I was 18. So to be in the talks with someone like that, to be competitive with someone like that, you know, some people say that I won. I believe I won at least two out of the three fights. I think you won. But listen, just to even be competitive with her and just have my name next to her is truly an honor. She was a great champion in and out the ring. It would be hard for me to be like a professional boxer is when I know I won. And imagine you did the versus and they said, and the winner is, and you know, you said, you pussy your neighbors, you did all that shit. and they give it to somebody else. This, you know, boxes, like Amanda, definitely the first fight, one billion percent, it was her fight. The second one, I think it was a lot clearer. The sport of boxing, right? We've seen too many times where we thought somebody won and then they give it to somebody else. That got to be like a... No, that hurts. There's politics in everything. Yes. We know that. I've noticed that too. because you train so hard and to have it, obviously that whole saying is don't leave it to the judges. Yes, you can't leave it to the judges because no matter where you're going, you have three judges. You put it on the line, you're going out there, you're fighting, you're getting punched, and it's up to three judges that determine if you win or lose. And depending on their opinion, sometimes they're like boxers, sometimes they're like brawlers. Depending on what they like, they're going to go towards that person. I used to see this one referee. You definitely know who he is. black dude back in the day every time he reffed I knew some bullshit was going on. Every fucking time he came up in that ring and be like and the referee I be like oh shit we got this dude he was in on the fucking he was betting hard rock bets a long time ago bro. I'm fucking telling you before the shit invented he was every time he was in the ring I knew some bullshit. He invented before it was invented. Bro every fucking time I watch this guy in the ring, I see some bullshit about to happen. He even jerked somebody, somebody stood on the floor too long, he took too long to count. This guy was in all bullshit like every fight. Like, I be like, yo, this guy right here, you know, I mean, it's human, it's whatever, but the point is, the thing about you, right? Could you clear a myth that I always wondered about? Could a woman beat a man up? Listen. Somebody fuck with you right now, dude on the corner. Yo, mamita. Come here being very disrespectful. Could you get the shit out of him? If it's one of those guys, yes. If it's not a train. Yeah, not a train. Like one-on-one, you might put the pain on one of these guys at Bushwick in the corner. Definitely going to be competitive. Because sometimes I see the girls fight. I be like, yo, by the way, they might fuck you up. Like in real life. Definitely. I love saying like I'm walking down the street and I'm like, only if these guys look at these guys, only if they know, just one punch, I can just. I was trying to. Listen, let me tell you something. I'm at the Versus watching him and the dip set. And I'm there with Balanga Zandias. I'm with three championship boxes. And some dudes try to front and take their chair. and I'm like I'm actually they probably thought Fat Joe was there you was there right Feeb they probably thought Joe Crack was on bullshit I was like trying to protect them literally that they know if these guys pound them out and they the boxes happen to be the nicest guys in the world no excuse me these are tickets this this that nah son y'all gotta give up these right or wrong I said yo you know what man Suppose they are your seats, man. Let's say they are. We keeping them shits anyway. Fuck you want to do, man. Y'all talking shit. Yo, they got the fuck up out of there, but I did them a favor. You saved them. Yo, these guys were three champions, bro. If they would have let them fist fly, them dudes was underneath the seats. I don't think they can do that, though. You can't just beat up. You can't just beat up. Listen, Mike Tyson fucked everybody up. They can't touch them. Listen, I don't know about that. What's the rules with that? I never had a street fight. I've only fallen in the ring. See, that's the grace of God because the people know if you can't... I've been lucky in blood. You can see at the nail salon or something and you just have to... Nah, I can't do it. Nah, come on. Hopefully I don't have to. I mean, they say... What? If they know who I am, then they obviously want to press charges because they're trying to get some money. They're trying to get some money. Trying to get some money. I'm a nice girl. Your man, Mike Tyson, definitely picked about... He beat a lot of people up. $50 million in lawsuits. I swear to God. Like, every time I turned around, I was like, Mike Tyson beat somebody up in Brooklyn. The guy won $2 million. Mike Tyson beat somebody. Like, when we was growing up. What about that guy beat up on the airplane? Yeah. He got away with that one because the guy was saying the R. The N word with the R and all that. Like, you know, I got on a plane with the pilot. From that, he was like, oh, my God, you're my second celebrity. You know, I was the pilot when Mike Tyson beat up the guy. this. He said the guy deserved it. Yeah, I was just going to say that. Everybody knew. Oh, he fucking with Mike too much. And you know, that's something that happens with anybody who's in entertainment or famous. The people think they could talk to you. They feel like, I bought your CD. I could tell you whatever the fuck I want to tell you. Listen, I'm not big as you guys but I getting that too And I like okay thank God I always with Jordan He my manager my brother So he always and he pretty big So he always making sure Hold on hold on Happy birthday my brother Happy birthday to Jordan. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Speaking of all of that stuff, you just said, we got to rewind. You know what kind of deal she got? She got a lifetime deal. Then she becomes the champ. Then she runs the front office when she retired. that's the incredible y'all you have to think about after you retire most likely this is my last year I'm going for the knockout goal Christy Martin has 32 knockouts so she's had it over 20 years so I'm 31 I'm like one more to tie it to to break it so I'm like it would be silly of me just to hang it up before I do it so it's right there I'm already going to hard rock bets I know you're going to do it It's damn out of bio to score 83. But definitely. And so you have to start thinking about when I retire. And that's 100%. I'm all about my women, women empowerment. And I want to see these women grow. I want to see the sport of boxing grow, continue to grow. We're doing amazing things. We just announced that we signed with BSPN. That was something. It's a big deal for us. to have women showcase on such a great network so the whole world can see that so many talented champions out there. And I'm excited. I'm excited to see the sport grow. It's great that you've shone the light on it and taken it to another level. Like we just came back from NASCAR. I guess that's where you get the racing shirt from and all that. It looks good. It looks good. I love it. You're safe from NASCAR. Not that you want to look like it. They ain't got the Supreme shit at that. Yo, but I'm saying we learned about an African-American driver in like the 60s. Back in the days, yeah. He was winning that shit, but we never knew. We tried to smuggle our history. Yeah, that was crazy his family came up. His son and his grandson. You know, from Virginia. So it was like, you know, sometimes, so there's, who are great champions that came before you but didn't get the spotlight in women's boxing? Well, I mean, you know, everyone knows Layla Ali, Christy Martin. I mean, they had their spotlight at the time, but it still wasn't as big as it's gotten now. But look, my sister, Cindy Serrano, not too many people know, she's the one who inspired me to get into the sport. she was a champion as well she just retired she became a hall of famer for new york and she's been working on the big one which she definitely will be going on it but at the time she wasn't getting the pay or recognition i'm super blessed that now that i got lots of money that i can take care of her and give give everything back to her like well not everything but give back to her because she opened the doors for me but there's a lot of champions that um there's a couple of Puerto Rican champions, these girls, like Melissa Hernandez, they were great champions, great fighters, but they didn't get that spotlight. And I'm glad that now it's changing a little bit. I'm part of a great company MVP that's helping the women grow. Beautiful. With that being said, how do you feel about MMA and the money and the media shine and spotlight that they put on that? Well, just in case you didn't know, I am undefeated in MMA. I did say dominant. I'm 2-0-1 in MMA. Two by submission, not by knockout. So that's something I'm proud of. Submission is incredible. Yes, yes, I love it. But I actually went to MMA because at the time, my boxing contract, I was already a five or six division world champion. and I was getting my boxing contract was, excuse my language, but it was... It was shit. We know about shitty contracts. It was peanuts. And I saw... You know, I spoke to the lady the other day that owns the Liberty. It's an Asian lady. Oh, Josiah's wife. Yeah. Her husband owns the net. And she owned the Liberty. I ain't know, but I was fighting for the girls for the higher pay and all that. She's down with it, but you know... Everybody got to be down with it. Yeah, no. Yeah, so she was telling me And I was just like, yo, there's no way the sport could be so big. And these girls got to struggle to get paid. Like, all that shit is unfair. No, it is. And then I saw how MMA was treating the women with more respect, more spotlight, more money. And that's why I decided to go to MMA. And actually, my MMA contract was bigger than my boxing contract. So I'm like, it just didn't make sense. And it was my pro debut. I was making more money than having a championship fight in boxing. It's crazy. So it was silly. It's silly for me. But then I guess boxing got a little jealous and they wanted me back. So then they stay up the money. So that's what you need to do. You need to, yeah, bargain, negotiate yourself. If you don't love me, I'm going to go somewhere else. You need to get these bidding wars going on out here, man. You know what I mean? You got to respect the value. You know what's crazy is sometimes the reverse happens, right? So I remember one time I told these guys, yo, you know, I don't want to be on this record label no more. They was like, all right, fine. Sign right here. not a problem. I was like, damn. I thought they gave a fuck. They were like, you can leave now, Joe. Not a problem. See you later. I was like, oh. Don't let the door not hit you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. But I bet they regret it. Oh, big time. Every time I see them, they tell me that shit. It's been 30 years. They be like, yo, Joe, we should have never let you go. Should have been robbing you forever, huh? Ain't that some bullshit? Yeah, but when it falls money everywhere, you're getting robbed everywhere. So it's unfortunate. You never stop getting robbed. I know. So, you know, I've got my heart broken. One thing about money, it'll turn honest people back. Like, you know what I'm saying? When you give someone too much control of your money and so much trust. And me, believe it or not, I got fucked so many times in my life, whores, that I still trust. Yeah. You know, it's just in my nature to trust. I just let you, what they say, you give you enough rope, you hang yourself, and then I'm just like, all right, that's it. Once I know, you're done for life. And let me tell you something, man, I noticed about, all right, you're going to keep focused, but one thing is this. Guys, when you was a member of a team and you're no longer a member of the team. You did something, and I'm not talking about Fat Joe and Terror Squad. I'm talking about anybody. Because I see guys who used to be down with somebody, now their new profession is going around YouTube doing these interviews, talking about who they used to be or who they was, and niggas 55, 60 years old talking about how they held it down to junior high. Who? No, no. When you're not down, that's how you start the shit. That's how you start the shit. Then I get the beef with everybody in the dirty section. I'm not talking about me. I'm just saying, listen, guys, there's a rule to the streets. There's always been a rule. If you're not down no more, we will never mention you again. when we're sitting in the car we don't even call you by your name if you ever come up and call scrams or fams or you don't, you are nameless forever and it doesn't have nothing, I'm not talking about me I watched an interview on YouTube this morning where the guy was like yo they don't mention me how about you're not down and you're telling stories about 40 years ago when you was down you're not even like what are you did you have do you get that? like you from Bushwick you in Puerto Rico you definitely must have been on Bon Chinchero or something like they had to like you had to get somebody was cool with you before ain't cool with you you ain't got that? I mean that never ends but lucky I've been around my family I've been blessed so they've always kept me in check I'm not a Bon Chinchero I don't go out there in Gaza that's not what I do obviously you see me on social media you see me in my press conferences I'm not the person. I'm not the loud person. I do everything I have to do. I handle my business in the ring or in the cage. And I go out there and I be the best version of myself, the best me. So I do my talking with my hands in the ring. Yeah. You know, hip hop is different, though, bro. Like, hip hop is fucking crazy. Like, I watch these people. You ain't hang out with the person in 30 years or 20 years. Like, yo, this shit is insanity to me. I don't know. I don't understand. But it's not everybody with my same last name were related, were cousins. Yeah. So it's like, it's not even, if you're a celebrity, it's always, it's going to happen. People are going to talk stuff if you're doing good, if you're doing bad. And they always... Yeah, but what I keep seeing these same guys say is why they don't mention me. Who? Every dude, you want one? You don't want one. don't do that don't do that no I'm interested listen don't do that you don't want one listen I want to hear one she wants one she wants one because these guys they love that shit they love that shit you can't give it to them no I'm just sitting there looking at some other guy who allegedly was down with some other guys and he's like yo they don't mention me when I see them tell the story how about listen breaking news headline you're not down anymore my nigga I even see that with the rats in the mafia like the rats yeah once the gang stole it no papo you told like you gotta go over there it's a never section no no it's a never section in jail you can't be in the with the real guys I don't give a fuck how many niggas you killed you told you can't be here You know, and so that's another day, right? So anyway, let's leave that. 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So that gets me going, especially my body. You'll be boxing, right? You just stand there. I don't want to say like a man, but damn, you tough, man. You in there and I watch pause from the back. You just be like, boom, boom, like a fucking machine. Like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. and you the reason why you're so successful is you give everybody a great show yeah that's that's one of the worst things when we watch a fight we get hyped for a fight and they scared for 12 rounds they're running around wrestling they're scared you go up in there and you sacrifice everything that's one thing you're never gonna see that from me I'm an entertainer first and I wanna go in there you guys are spending your money to come see me or you your time is valuable as well. So you're spending your time watching me fight. I want you guys to leave and say, my God, that was a fight. I don't, look, I spent a lot of money on my outfits, but I don't mind getting dirty or bloody. It's funny because I am the complete opposite of what you see in that ring. I'm like, I'm a sucker outside the ring. I'm a crybaby. I don't know. Once I go through those ropes, I'm a different person. I'm the real deal in those ropes. And that's what you're going to see. And now with this record that I'm trying to break, you're going to continue to see that because I have to get those knockouts because I need to break that record. So that's what I want to say. Those knockouts soon come. Those knockouts. I even see you sometimes in the crowd as a fan being frustrated. You be looking at fights and you see boxes you know and they ain't putting in that work and I see you sometimes. I watch on TV or I get to fight and I see Amanda in the crowd. And I'm like, she's like, man, you better fuck this dude up. I'm kind of biased because I fight the way I like to watch fights. I love to go in there, you know, you're putting everything on the line, yes. But you want to go out there and put a show. Like, I want to see that. I want to see one get knocked down, get up and knock the other one down. Like, actually, that's like a dream fight for me. Like, I get knocked down and I get back up and I knock the girl down. and we go back and forth, obviously I win. But, you know, when I became undisputed champion, I fought a Mexican, Erica Cruz. This girl, she's obviously a Mexican fighter. But I always said, I want a fight where we're just going back and forth, back and forth. I saw Jordan, my trainer, and he was like, you're nuts. I said, no, that's the fight I want. And for it to be undisputed, something first coming out of Puerto Rico, I want it to be that fight. I could have boxed that girl easily. Like, she was just flat-footed and come forward. Like, I could have outboxed her easily. I said, no. I'm going to go there toe-to-toe with that girl. And I would show Boricua, Puerto Rico, and Mexican fighters, they bring the best out of each other. And I did. It was a 10-round war. We was both bloody. And I became on the speeder that night. And my outfit was all bloody down to my sneakers. But people remember. People remember that. Yeah. You know, one of my favorite boxers of all time was Diego Corrales. Corrales, rest in peace. He was on that type of time. Slug out. Chiro Gatti. Yeah. These are guys that they hit the floor and they get back up and knock you out. Then you knock them out again and they knock you out. And that's the real shit. Now everything's a business. Now these people, they babysit their undefeated records. They don't want to take a chance. Listen, I have four losses now on my record. But listen, I'm still number one. one of the pound for pound best female fighters. People love to see me fight because I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first. And then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to. Plus, these girls don't hit that hard. So maybe if they hit hard, I'll be a little like keep my hand up. But no. Shout out to Edgar. Edgar told me you were him sparred when y'all was kids. Yeah. You hit that boy so hard. He said you won't him up. He said, bang! He was like, oh my God, I better watch it with this girl. This girl, you lit him up. Yeah, he knows, he knows, but I can't spot him now. You crazy? He will destroy me. No, I always said to myself, I said to myself, because I don't sleep on nobody. You know, I almost got beat up by Roy Jones one time. You can't be a great storyteller if you don't tell the wins and losses. Of course. You gotta say the truth. When Roy Jones came to me, he was gonna knock me out. I was grabbing his wrist like this, like, champ, don't knock me out. Champ, chill. I knew what he was gonna do. And it wasn't even gonna, he ain't had to go like, he just bombed real quick. He'd have put me out. I gotta, you know. So I always watched and I said, damn, man, you know what? A female could knock a dude out. I don't care. Like, is there like, let me leave that one. You think a female boxer ever knocked her husband out, like, caught him cheating or some wild shit? I'm pretty sure. Ain't nobody bragging about that shit, right? Gotta say the lost is with the... What? You gotta say the lost is with the way? I don't think nobody... I don't think a motherfucker like, yo, she was Layla Alito. She put me out the bus. She smoked her. Yo! But you gotta be careful. You know, in hip-hop, we almost like boxers. We got to have an undefeated record. The minute you on camera getting your ass whooped, you don't like that rapper no more. It's over. Of course. You ever knew that? Yeah, I never got my ass whooped. All right. No, my thing is I had beef for 50 Cent for six years, and I knew wherever I seen him, we was going to fight or worse. every day I knew I could be on Worldstar, he might be on Worldstar that's a different type of waking up in the morning, right, that's a different kind of Christmas, it's like and I'm Fat Joe, he cocked diesel 50 cents, I'm like yo man, wherever I see him and shit gotta get what do you wanna do, yo James we putting you on the fucking couch next show James, cocked diesel, they don't like that they don't like that, that's the flag these people crazy what's the one thing you want new fans to understand about female boxing listen we're we're here we put in the work just like the men do we sacrificing our lives our brain our bodies and we we want to entertain you guys we want to go out there we want to be able to make some money like the men. We want to be able to showcase our skills like the men. But now little by little, I'm so glad that I opened a lot of doors for these women, you know, because of me, MVP, they took a chance with a woman. They weren't sure what women can do. I went out and I proved that women are marketable. We can fight. We're champions. We're talented. So now I have a whole, my whole roster is over 40 women. And great women. I love that girl, Bum Gardner. Yeah, Alicia. She gets busy, huh? She's part of the team. She's a beautiful girl in and out the ring. You know, she does her thing. And, you know, the future is bright for her and all the girls on the team. Yeah. Who's some of the other young, up-and-coming female boxers you think? Who's the girl you mentoring? You mentoring? Yeah, I managed to. Elise Soto. She's 20 years old. She's 10 and 0 with 9 knockouts. She reminds me a lot of myself. You said it before. She was probably never even had a fight. You was saying, yo, she going to be a champ. Yeah, I fought with her. I be putting her beats on. She's still coming back. I'm like, yo. I think it's the age. I think it's the age. Yo, man, I wish you could live forever, man. I wish you could be 60 beating their asses, man. Oh, my God. I wish, too. Amanda, boy, let me tell you, boy, she don't play that shit, man. And yo, you know she loves sneakers. She took it easy today on us with this. Yeah, I'm trying to be like big bro here. I had to show the roomie. She came to the house and store the collection and all that. I put Jordan and them on to you. I've been told them. I was like, yo, Reggie, this the girl. She fights Jordan. Yeah, but you need to give them another call. Yeah, you got a broken back, man. I swear to God, I try to make it happen. Reg, make it happen, Reg. Tell me about it. Yo, Reg, I gotta give her that shit. Do a fucking P.E. with her something like She deserves it. You be fighting. Since 2019. Was that legal? Well, it is now. If it wasn't, I made it. I made it. She's going to ring with Jordans. 2019, I started my first time wearing. You know what's so funny? It was that house is a beautiful thing. As a kid, I was never poor. I was never. I had a beautiful family. My dad always worked to make sure we had food on the table and a roof over our head. So my first pair of Jordans was in 2019. the Concours 11. And that was the first time that I fought with them was that same sneaker that I fought. I made his three, became a seven-division world champion in 35 seconds with those sneakers on. So it's like, cool. Like, my first pair of Jordans, I wore them in a fight. You're getting the Jordan deal, man. Jordan family, reach out to our peoples and do the right thing. I told him already, you know, I've been showing them footage of her. Like, I'm like, look, she walks in the ring with the Jordans. Just the one. And then it's Jordans that you buy in the store. Nah, not custom. He was just, let me tell you something. Me and this guy, we have a serious problem with sneakers. Like the first thing we did, we seen each other. He was like, yo, I caught these. I caught those. You heard these are coming out. These are over here. We went to LA and lost our mind all-star weekend. He's in one store. I'm in one store. He's in one store. I'm in one store. He's in one store. And we just getting sneakers. We buying sneakers and dropshops. I know. I love watching you guys do it. Love that shit. Listen, I'm definitely not a sneakerhead. I have lots. I just love sneakers, and I've been buying ever since that, ever since 2019. I just been into them, into Jordans, and now I'm going over to Adidas, New Balance. But your collection is amazing. Thank you. It's like pound for pound, number one. Nice one and a half. And I'm like, even going to the elevator to go see sneakers. Purple rain. Purple rain. I think one sneaker is probably not even close to my whole collection that I have. Yeah, but you want to know why? It's the love. And let me tell you something about collecting sneakers, just buying sneakers. You never know in the future that sneaker might turn into something worth There plenty of sneakers I bought that we bought them when they first came out And four years later they worth $7,000, $10,000. It'd just be like a jewel that everybody want to get their hands on. You need to take me shopping one day. I need to get a couple of jewels for retirement. I got you. That's too easy. You definitely inspire me. You need them pink Air Max. They just came out for the girls. The pink Air Max. You need them. Five. Air Max 95. The pink joints came out for the girls. They ain't come out for the... Well, I got them. Oh, bragging. I got them yesterday. You got them in girl size? They only come out in girl size. Damn, how I get them? I got them. They got girls with feet. That's your size. That's true. That's great. Well, I get so upset. These I thought were going to be girls. And they came out for guys. And I get so upset because y'all get the fly colors. The women get the flyest colors. I go and they be like, nah, it's for girls. I'm like, yo, my man. Like, why can't I get them? Guys with smaller feet, they lucky. Like, man, what's man? Eight and a half, nine? No, it used to be eight, nine, and nine and a half. Now he lost weight. His feet lost weight. His feet lost weight. You know your feet lose weight. Not from a nine and a half to an eight and a half. Your feet lose weight. What kind of feet did he have? How hard is that when I see fighters getting ready to get weighed in and all that and they got to lose an extra two, three pounds? Yeah, lucky I never had to. I never lost anything on the scale. I never lost any of my titles. I've always come in professional. I always make sure I do what I have to do. How hard is that? But it's very hard. And it's funny, me going up in division is a lot harder than me losing weight. I'm a small girl. I went down to, I won a title at 115. But going up to like 135, 140, that's a little rough for me because I walk around at 135. And once I start training, the weight just comes off so easy. And I have to go after the gym, stuff my face and eat. And it's just... Or you got to do the reversal. Yes, you got to work out the eat. You got to work out the eat. And to me, that's hard because when you feel so stuffed and sluggish, you don't perform the same way. You feel heavy. Like, I feel my best at featherweight 126. And that's where I am the champion, unified champion. So to me, I'm undefeated at featherweight at 126. But when I go up, I'm taking chances. Those girls are going up as well. They'll drop down and they'll make the way. But then they're shooting back up after the way. Something I never understood, right? and you can let me know because this is your life, right? Obviously, you can't take a 350-pound guy to fight a 150-pound fight. But does it really make a difference four pounds and five pounds when they're like, yo, I got to go up five pounds to come down five. It does because, listen, from 126 to 135. I don't know. I'm not a boxer, kids. But what they do, they're straining themselves. They're making that weight that they have the weigh-in. they make whatever weight they have to make. But then after that, you start eating, you start bulking up, you start getting all that weight back. So, okay, when I fought Katie Taylor, the fight was at the first time was at 135. I weighed in, what, 133? 133, she weighed in 134. But I'm a natural featherweight. So the night that we checked in, like we did the mock weigh-in, I was 132. I lost a pound from the weigh-in. So she went on the scale. she was about 140 something, right? 155. Damn. So she goes up so the night of the fight and that's like three and then she eats three or four more meals. So the night of the fight I'm going in there fighting a girl 155 pounds while I'm 133 pounds. So it does make a difference. That's crazy. Yeah. So that's why I always say I'm the best. I'm the queen at featherweight. It's heart, that's where I feel my best at. Every time I go up, I'm taking a chance. And not too many people, not too many girls or men are taking those chances or making those sacrifices to be great. I'm the first and only seven-division world champion. And to me, that's a bigger accomplishment than any other thing because it's not easy going up and down in weight and especially winning in higher weights where I feel like I'm alone. It definitely says you never duck nobody because you know, somebody going seven divisions and winning. That's another thing. You know what I'm saying about boxers? Where boxers, you know, duck other people. You know, maybe I don't know the game, but when I was a kid, Muhammad Ali was fighting everybody. You know, the boxers was fighting people back in the day. Yeah, no, I'm telling you, now it's a business. Even for me, now at this part of my career, towards the end, Joe, you know, I fall in the beginning of my career for peanuts. Like, there was championship fights. Like, I tried with Miguel Cotto becoming a four-division world champion for, what, $4,000? What's the lowest bag? $4,000 for a championship? No, that's not the lowest. Oh, $1,500. $1,500 for a world title. $1,500 for a world title. And you have to remember that these sanctioning fees, they take a percentage. The trainer fees, the cut man, all that. So by the time I'm looking at my account, I got like $250. You remember Wu-Tang. Wu-Tang, I used to do shows with Wu-Tang. We used to get $500 a show. They had 13 dudes breaking off $500. I'm over here with $500. Like, this shit was crazy. I was like, yo, how are these guys going to make it? Like, this shit, it ain't nothing but McDonald's after that show. But now, lucky I can eat at expensive restaurants. before I couldn't, exactly before I had to go to the dollar menu. But it's amazing how it became like full circle. So now that I'm in this part of my career, I can take it into business. But we ever see you in a relationship in like, because we ain't never see you booed up or nothing like that. You ain't never doing that. When I retire, Joe, yeah. Or when you retire, you might get booed up in a little red carpet, a little something. Of course, I mean. What did I say wrong? I didn't say anything. No, because she's been so dedicated. It takes dedication in her field of... Greatness requires sacrifice. I sacrificed my life to the sport. I get it. And obviously, I think it's worked. Look where I'm at right now. I'm on the Don't Jada show. That's right. I'm not... It's the real deal talking to y'all. It's at your pace. If you never want to be in it, that's on you. But I've seen it. I've been around it. And even as a younger teenager, being in the gym, watching these men and they having girlfriends and they being stressed out. Even my sister and Jordan, her husband, her husband is her trainer, was our trainer. It is our trainer. And sometimes they will have arguments and my sister would be upset or, you know, one. I had a friend that was a boxer. He had a girlfriend. Yeah. Just. I've seen it. It drives him nuts. The fucking training camp to come back in town. Boxing brings me all the same emotions. I'm happy. I'm sad. I'm crying. I'm excited. So I think when I retire, then I'll have time for myself. I'll be able to ride along in the sunset. Maybe with a boo thing. Maybe you'll be eating the coconut on the beach. Drinking a piña colada. Eating the coconut on the beach. It ain't nothing like that. MVP. your MVP women boxing is coming on ESPN when it starts so excited it starts well the the debut starts April 5th or 6th I'm not sure in the UK but that's on Sky Sports but it's gonna be on the ESPN app but the first official on ESPN ESPN is April 17th at the Garden and that's where Alicia Baumgarner headlining defending her titles so super excited for her and Another question I just thought about, right? Aren't you like the highest paid female boxer ever for a fight? I am. I am. I'm the first. Yo, she's the fucking highest paid ever. Yo! It's truly an honor. Listen, I was the first female to get a million dollars. And I say the first because it was a Katie Taylor fight. So my team came back to me and said, we're going to give you a million dollars. We were so excited, so happy, so proud of that accomplishment that my manager, Jordan, said we have to announce this because we have to show women that we can do it. We broke that barrier. We broke that ceiling. Let's do it. So when Jordan did that, Katie Taylor was like, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. How much are you getting? Because she wasn't getting that much. No, she wasn't getting that much. So her team had to go. Yeah, she was a champion. and I was a contender. So the hot team was like, okay, we'll give you the meal. So we both end up getting a meal that fight that night. That was April. I mean, some people claim that they're the first, but in my calculations, in my calendar, April comes before October. It don't even matter. It don't even matter. You say everybody knows it's solid. When you talk, it's real. I'm so proud of that moment. And look, we're getting not, that wasn't my only fight where I made a million. I made millions. I'm a mostly millionaire. And I'm so proud to say that. You know, you know what's crazy is or what's not crazy. But you know what's the biggest blessing. And I think me and Feeb was talking about this. What Allah says, Feeb. Allah says feeding somebody is the biggest thing you can do while you're on earth so not only you didn't just say this is for me I want all the money I want all of this you opened up the lane for other females to come after you to eat and not get taken so they don't have to get paid $1,500 for their championship and that is big and so I believe that that's the type of stuff you get judged with Because when you die, they're not going to say, damn, Fat Joe was looking fly as hell on this shit. They're going to say, yo, he fed some people, man. He opened the doors for some people. He took care of his people, his community. That's where it's at, man. And so that's beautiful that you just didn't want to say, yo, I want to be the only one. You know, there's people like that. I want to be the only one to eat. I don't want nobody to eat. I want to be that. And so that's commendable that you're opening the doors for the woman. That's something I can't do. I love, I'm a ladies lady. I love empowering women. They always say empowered women empower women. And that's what I'm going to continue to do. And I love it. And I love seeing these girls grow. Like I have another girl, Crystal Rosado, Puerto Rican girl. She, for her pro debut, she made more money than I did at my championship level. So just to see that and like, man, look what, look how far we've come. Look what I, I'm able to give to these young ladies. That's a beautiful thing. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking, kids. Make some noise for the real deal. Amanda Serrano. Woo! Woo!