Hey everybody, it's Tim Miller from the Bulwark here with the other Potato Boys, Will Summer and Sam Stein. We're working on merch, okay? I've requested Woke Bill Crystal merch, Petrato Trio merch, and Capitalist Wing of Antifa merch. I'm good with two of three of those. But that's all. It's going to be a while. It's going to be a minute. We've got two topics to get to today. One is the latest investigation from Nick Shirley and his imitators in the investigative space, investigative journalism space in the mega media. And then obviously we have the first installment of Bride of Charlie by Candace Owens, something I've been just waiting to watch. But we're doing a cold. The producer has pulled together clips. And I want to watch. Yes, you're doing a cold. Yes, I've watched it. Will is professional. So me and Sam are coming in cold. I wanted to watch it so badly last night, but for the content, I decided we'll do it fresh. So we'll get to that next. But really quick, Nick Shirley, I want to put this. We'll just show a little clip here. This is a guy named Tyler Oliveira. Do you know anything about him, Will? Tyler Oliveira? Yeah, Tyler Oliveira, as you said, he's kind of a Nick Shirley type. He goes around to communities, often immigrant or kind of marginalized communities. He rose to fame, such as it was in 2024. he was a big Haitians are eating the dogs guy. Ah, got it. Okay, well, Mr. Haitians are eating the dogs man has gone to New Jersey, and he's discovered something in New Jersey that is very alarming. And Nick Shirley replied to him when he posted on this that he concurs it's alarming. All caps, Nick Shirley writes, expose it all. What is Tyler going to expose? Let's watch. Turning a once quiet town into a densely populated, over-trafficked Jewish enclave, Save prioritizing Jews over non-Jews. There are Jews in New Jersey, Sam. There are Jews in New Jersey. Oh, boy. Wait, hold on. Jews in the tri-state area? Oh, no. No. Who could have known that? I'd like to call Tyler and let him know. I went to George Washington University, otherwise known as New Jersey U. Okay, we're the unofficial state school for rich New Jersey kids. And they were all Jews. I was the only Gentile at the school, basically. congrats so i'm just saying i think that this is it's not an investigation i guess no like i think that like the idea what are they exposing exactly that the jews the hasid it's really focused on the hasidics yeah they've got a community uh this is a 73 minute i have not watched all 73 minutes i don't know if will has it's a 73 minute long documentary documentary on the jewish invasion region of new jersey can you be can you be invaded if you're already there no but also do they not know the hasids are the uh the trump supporters here well this has come up sam this has come up because basically the reaction to this has been this is very similar to the nick shirley playbook we're going to go to this community and we're going to find out some of them are on public assistance folks um but in this case republicans are like wait a minute this is kind of a group These are our people. These are conservative Hasidic Jews. And so we've seen some, you know, particularly, I mean, obviously, more Jewish conservatives, but others as well are like, oh, yikes, I don't know about this one. We might, you know, I think the great insight Jewish people had after World War II in America was that any kind of like bigoted movement will ultimately end up going after Jews as well. And I think that's what we're seeing here. Well, I'm going to tell you something. We had that insight prior to World War II. Even better. Usually ends up with us being targeted. I'm not surprised. I will just say this. This is the guy, Nick Shirley, who J.D. Vann said probably deserves a Pulitzer for his work. This is also the guy who broke open the big story the other week about a UPS store housing all these voters. He forgot to pan up to see the apartments above the UPS store. So I'm not sure they should have put all their eggs in this guy's basket. He seems a little bit off. Well, yeah, we've seen Nick Shirley has sort of endorsed this series. He didn't make this video, but he's saying, you know, expose them all. I got to tell you, Sam. Yeah. There's I think that your people, the chosen people, should be a little worried about what's happening on the right. Now, there were a lot of right wing Jews during the 2024 campaign. I got into an argument with one of them on MSNBC talking about how they just they felt like they couldn't support Kamala Harris because the anti-Semitic protesters on the campus, you know, with their River to the Sea flags. And I was like, okay, you know, but you do realize that like the anti-Semites are like inside the leadership of the Republican Party. They're like, they're inside the house. It's like the people that were on the streets protesting Israel, whatever you think about their choices and their rhetoric, they were protesting Joe Biden. And it's like, these are like J.D. Vance's favorite people. And they're going into communities going, they're jews here it's not even that it's like donald trump every now and then will just be like all these jews around me in this room you're good for your money love your money and it's like that trope's pretty old try a new one it's it's very evident and it's gonna believe we're gonna talk about it in the candace stuff i mean that is that is the absolute that's not the subtext that's the text where she's basically like yeah israel did this it is indeed speaking of right wing anti-semitism now we go to bride of charlie we made you wait a couple minutes just to wait for the good stuff well i guess before we go to the clips since you've now watched it did it meet expectations did it exceed any any any top level insights for us yeah so i could get into this in the latest false flag but essentially on one hand i think a newsletter you can get at thebullark.com by the way if you're new check it out um so on one hand logically i think it's kind of a flop i think candace has some some new stuff but stuff that you look at and you go okay but how does that prove she's an assassin or that she was involved in murdering her husband i guess it's a bit weird um as we'll see on the other hand i think candace succeeded in create creating like a hype event that i think a lot of people have reacted to i mean it's gotten millions of views we're recording this less than 24 hours after it dropped um and i think you know turning point and erica are really on the back foot here well let's go to it um i i've been given just kind of a summary of each of these clips so that i can call for it and the idea was that there were like very a lot of them and then i was supposed to choose which one seemed the best and i it's like choosing between one's children i got my favorite nuggets player like i can't like they all seem amazing so we're gonna get through as many as we can we'll start with uh the one we've got titled grieving widow i believe this is you know we're going chronologically here through the documentary that sentence in my opinion is this year's trust the science she's a grieving widow the mainstream media of course zionists implied are effectively telling you to roll up your sleeves and get the vaccine again dopes tyler robinson did it erica kirk is grieving please allow her to do so in the privacy of the billion dollar charity that she took over okay so nice later so where so the idea here is that erica kirk is like the vaccine and you know what and the vaccine didn't work and it's also she's also like the jews what's that what's the setup here if you say that erica kirk didn't murder her husband you're just like fauci saying you know don't worry about the masks or put on your mask i mean it yeah i mean essentially you know you can kind of see a logic to it in that can you she's well she's saying remember Remember how people told us not to not to ask questions about the vaccine or whatever? Well that like when people say I can believe that you would question you know Erica Kirk you know whether she was at a military base the day before the assassination And what does this have to do with Zionism Well, she just kind of tossed out Zionism there in the middle. Yeah, she's really started to lump all of her critics in as like the Zionist, you know, suggesting that this is all like the Israeli state was. She said in this case, she was saying mainstream media Zionist implied Jews and controlling the media. Again, got to get new tropes. But secondarily, this is just like this is the Tucker Carlson school of, you know, provocateur-ness, right? It's like we're just asking questions, folks. What's so wrong about asking questions? If you don't want to ask questions, you're, you know, your mind is controlled by the Jews. All right. So I just want to say, because we've done this a few times, it's not my cup of tea, actually, to mock somebody whose husband got killed. But you can do that. Like grieving widow thing. Like you can do that. If you want to in a free country, you want to like make fun of her suit pants. I'm down with that. I did some chuckling. I've listened to some people make some good jokes that made me chuckle. But it is a big jump from saying you can't make fun of a grieving widow to saying the grieving widow actually killed the husband, not the person that all the evidence was confessed to the murder dead. Okay. So there's a big space between that. We're going to go through her evidence though. Because we want to be fair. Okay. Fair, balanced. We're truth seekers. Yeah. So we want to see what she presents. She's seen something, a couple of suspicious things about Erica and her family tree. There's a big focus on the family tree here. They are, what is the word? She comes from a long line of what, Will? Do you know? Do you remember? Of Swedish Masons, I believe. Swedish Freemasons. Yeah, okay. So she comes from a long line of Swedish Freemasons. So we go through the whole family tree, but we're going to start at the present day with Erica. Kirk and there's something fishy about the birth certificate. Point is, we learned from this newspaper clipping that Erica was born on November 20th and she maintains that birthday today. But oddly, that would be news to her parents. Kent and Lori, for whatever reason, think that Erica was born two days later on November 22nd. We know this because of their divorce filings, which took place in 1998. Well, I'm convinced she killed Charlie. that's it there's a discrepancy between the birth date on the birth certificate and the divorce filings yes we might need to send someone to hawaii to find gotta get the long form gotta get the long form birth certificate this is also very similar to the technique she used to argue that brigitte mccrone was trans where she kind of throws out these like weird discrepancies for like 40 year old newspaper articles and you go well i said 30 year old perhaps um and and you go like well okay but what would be she never says what the implication is and that's when they're covering up the three days infant erica spent at massad training camp i mean what is the what happened between november 20th and november 22nd 1988 okay that is what we need to find out when the jews implant the brain chip that programs you to kill your husband yeah all right well that's just one item though guys i don't don't get too you know don't don't start mocking candace yet All right, like this, she's building a case. It isn't just about the birth certificate. It goes back also to her parents' marriage certificate. Let's take a look at that. I should also add that I could not find a single trace of their alleged marriage in Marblehood, Massachusetts. Doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, but I couldn't find it across any date. And Marblehead, I would like to know, is certainly an interesting town to pick because it's the recognized birthplace of the Marine Corps. We're going to keep hearing the Marines coming up throughout this entire story. We're just laying the groundwork here. We're just laying the groundwork. Hoo-ah. So Erica Kirk's parents allegedly got married in Marble Hood, Massachusetts. Marble Head, I believe. You can tell how closely she's scrutinizing this that she keeps saying a different name. What's the actual name, Will? I think Marble Head, Massachusetts. Marble Head. Marble Hood, Marble Head. They got married there, allegedly. no evidence that i i don't know anything about the kirk parents marriage i should just say speaking for oneself i got married in new orleans at the maroney opera house but like i actually got the certificate in oakland at the you know at the courthouse wait there could be many situations hold on are you saying you killed charlie i'm not saying that my point is is i'm saying there are a lot of potential explanations why the location of your mayor there might not be documented but who knows maybe there's something there what do you think about the marine corps tease there sam where do you think that's headed my guess and again i'm coming in really cold here is there's some like it's like a double layered manchurian child thing where it's like the marines kind of i don't know got to erica kirk's parents to program erica kirk 30 years ago to kill charlie is that where we're heading i don't know she i will say she never quite makes it explicit in this episode so it's hard to know but she she does this a lot where she's like that's interesting this guy who works for a turning point his uncle was in the military and it's like a conservative with military ties that's insane to me but she actually goes in this case they don't even have military ties their parents just got married in a place that happens to have a connection to the marico we live in america like every city has a connection to some military you can't deny it's conspicuous right i mean there's something odd about this right she says erica was born at a hospital that like a hundred years ago started as a military hospital in the civil war but then it became a civilian hospital just like the military is always giving away hospitals that doesn't seem likely does it and it's like you mean like an old hospital was just turned into a civilian that doesn't seem that crazy but the idea is that the hidden hand of the military is at play so what we've got here so far is a two-day discrepancy on the birth certificate the parent we cannot find a marriage certificate for the parents, but the place where the marriage was supposed to take place was also the first place of the Marine Corps, also born in a hospital that was once a military hospital. Let's go back a little further into the timeline. And we're going to skip right over the grandparents. They might not have been involved in the plot at all. We're going to go to the great grandparents. Yes. The great grandmother. So let's bring in the OG Loretta Abbas, Erica's great-grandmother who died in 1990 who was just constantly being arrested for running illegal slot machines okay she came over from syria and she got to work bringing filth and fraud in pennsylvania you check out this article from 1941 where she testifies that she ran numbers it says loretta avis of washington thomas roberts go whatever whatever testify that they engage in the numbers business and had been arrested on numerous occasions they oh man the great-grandmother was running illegal slots in pennsylvania all right we had it's just another little dart on the board okay we don't we're not we don't have the yarn up yet but we just want to put that up on the board for everybody in case there's a question the great-grandmother loretta abbas i'm surprised she didn't she didn't i mean there have been some terrorist leaders with the last name abbas does that come up well it's interesting she makes a lot of erica's sort of like lebanese or she doesn't make much of her Lebanese heritage. She talks a lot about the Swedish aspect. But it's sort of a weird thing. I will say, supposedly, the great-grandfather was also a big numbers guy. He was chased by the police, and all his numbers tickets flew away. But as you might say, you might wonder, what is the point of any of this, right? What is the she says gambling will play a big role in this story So we got the Marines Are the Marines hitting the slots Where is it headed I just would note that again if I was in Candace shoes I be like whoa I found out that her great stayed up at Abbas. Maybe Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the Palestinian Authority, is involved here. But the Palestinian Authority can't be involved because it's the Jews. Erica has to be on the side of the Jews, so she can't also be on the side of the Palestinians. So we're going to... Unless the plot goes way deeper than you and I can possibly conceive. That's something to consider, Sam. Let's move forward to, I guess there's one more item about her Middle Eastern heritage. Yeah, let's see that one. Let's talk about that. Erika herself is therefore Syrian Lebanese on her mother's side and Swedish on her father's side. So something which struck me as immediately odd about Erika is just how deeply she identifies as Swedish, despite her public insistence that she was raised by a quote unquote single mother. Think about that just from a social perspective. If Erika was indeed raised by a single mother, wouldn't you expect her to identify more deeply with those Lebanese Syrian roots? I'm thinking about it from a social perspective and I'm lost. Well, one thing I'm learning is I didn't know me and Erica had this in common as a fellow person with Syrian Lebanese ancestry. And so maybe that's why some of the commenters are mad that I've not been meaner to Erica. Maybe I subconsciously knew she was one of my people. I will say as someone, again, I'm always trying to bring this down to the personal. So is that weird? Is that strange? I'm not sure, to be honest. like my i have a grandparent that has irish genealogy and i don't like irish bars i mentioned from time to time that i'm syrian lebanese but i don't really identify with the irish part of my ancestry because i think that saint patrick's day is heterosexual gay pride and uh i don't enjoy going to an irish bar and i don't like cabbage does that is that suspicious i do this is the second time on this podcast that you've implicated yourself in charlie kirk's murder First is that you did not have your proper marriage place of record, and now you have Syrian Lebanese heritage. Sam, do you identify equally with all – Are you just Jewish or do you have anything else in the ancestry? Tim, I'm already guilty of the murder because I am Jewish. What about Will? Do you equally identify with all elements of your genealogy? genealogy no no i don't i i feel more you know more the scandinavian side than the german side i guess it's all the same right but okay let's keep going we've got a little bit more on the mother wait can i just pause for a second yeah is this really it like i haven't seen this really it no honestly sam it is it is that's what's so crazy like we're gonna get a little more like there's a couple angles and actually this is a good point can i say i had an insight with with some of our vulgar colleagues, you might be watching this and you're like, wait, where is this all headed? Like, what is this? This, I believe is structured this way to be clipped for things like TikTok for short form video, because if you just clip it as like, like one minute, like what's up with the discrepancy in the divorce filings versus the birth certificate, you throw that out. People might go, oh my gosh, that's crazy. But then when you watch the whole video, you're like, why is it all over the place like this? And it doesn't add up to anything. I think that explains it. TikTok clipping. Yeah. I'll also say this. I think that Candace knows that Candace is savvy about one thing, which is audience development. And so I want to offer a cautionary tale to potentially some of our listeners. She knows that a lot of people hate Erica Kirk. She does. Like, and there are a lot of people that hate Erica Kirk, and some of them are far-right magas. Some of them are, you know, part of that internal feud between Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson. Some of them just are lefties. Some of them are just regular people that aren't really ideological. They just, for whatever reason, Erica Kirk just, she doesn't have a very appealing affect i think we can just say um and so i think that a lot of this is just like if i put up a lot of clips like trashing her then people are going to engage with that yeah because she's an easy target i think there's a lot of that happening okay but here we go there's more i don't want to understate it to just that because she is also not just gaining audience she is trying to prove a true crime case that erica kirk assassinated her husband um and uh Her mother might be part of that. Let's hear more about Erica's mother, Carla. Jack Solomon eventually marries Carla Fransfay in 2002. And there are also some other really interesting facts about Jack. Jack. This is interesting. And Erica's aunt, mommy aunt, I don't know, Carla, live in Utah. He graduated from what is today known as Utah Valley University. He's very involved in the university. It was formerly known as Utah Valley State College when he graduated from there. He also created on their campus the Center for Jewish Studies. I mean, at the very least, you'd think with all of the money that he poured into that university, he might be able to call someone to get us more footage of Tyler Robinson. Are you compelled yet, Samuel? Her father created the Jewish Studies Center at the university. You have to admit that is eyebrow raising. My eyebrows are raised. anytime anyone has a connection with jews candace will mention it and she'll kind of just say she's like by the way that person a lot of jewish people there makes you wonder you don't find it interesting that her aunt that that she has relatives that went to the university where charlie was killed you don't find that i don't um but they might have a map they might have the map of the tunnels do you think you think he has the map of the tunnel you would think you would think yeah all that money he gave to the university couldn't he pull some strings i mean it's getting close to being like, you know, Erica was spotted eating a bagel with lox that morning. Like, doesn't that raise questions about Jews? I mean, that's like where we're at, basically. Just to clarify here, because it is a little confusing. Carla is the aunt. And so there's a lot of like, I think she's basically suggesting that Erica is Jewish, is sort of where this is had it okay so jack so jack isn't the father it's the uncle that's the it's the aunt's husband yes i think that's right it's the uncle i apologize we regret the air facts well no it's not your fault because she called her a mommy aunt yeah so that's why erica's mommy aunt's husband which so it on our planet we call uncle uncle but that uncle seems a little uncle jewish studies over here yeah the jewish in-law uncle uh doesn't seem quite as ominous as husband of mommy aunt uh who created the center there and uh he doesn't have any ends anymore i don't know um it's a coincidence you have to you have to note it there's a coincidence uh you would think that that erica would have a pretty good sense of the lay of the land there at the university if she wanted to plot out a you know some kind of scheme this is just going to be a a compilation of other times that uh she mentioned your people samuel let's listen speaking about psychology a social science that was created to be very clear by german mystical jews right they believed in mystical judaism they were practicing the occult jack solomon was also professor at BYU in political science. He's the former director of the University Jerusalem Center He also served on the Center for Jewish Studies on the board at UVU Zahayan Gate like I said is his dedication By the way Tezzerach the school itself is exceedingly Jewish in terms of the administration. It was run by Jewish executive directors. The teachers are all Jewish. Why are the Jewish people naming their schools looking glad? I'm just wondering. I'm just wondering. I mean, I've been very cheeky about all this stuff, so let me not be cheeky for a second fuck you like fuck you honestly it's so obnoxious it's anti-semitic it's awful i mean she's doing irreparable harm she's causing real endangerment of jewish people across the country fuck you okay yeah the jews don't have anything to do with this one actually tyler robinson not a jew had the roommates that he had feelings for who had the craziest part about all this is that like it fits right into her anti-trans playbook like she could just she could just just go with the robinson wasn't trans and i'm not encouraging uh demagoguery against trans but like there's an open and shut like he has a motive that's related to something that she talks about all the time which is char like the fact they were mad about charlie's attacks on on you know people that are have different gender identities i'm like that's what happened what do they say i maybe i forgot they have some sort of explanation for this but well, you probably know. What do they say about the incredibly incriminating text messages that Tyler sent? Well, they think they're fake. They think they're fake. Oh, it's fake. They say, oh, doesn't it sound a little fake to you? I mean, that's the evidence. It doesn't sound like a Gen Z. I've seen people messaging me about this when they're mad that I won't go along with their conspiracies. Like, I have Gen Z kids. They don't talk like this. I know Gen Z friends. They don't text like this. It's like, he was a homeschool Mormon. Okay, he doesn't talk like your average Gen Z kid. He's a homeschooled Mormon kid. And here's the most important thing. The recipient of the text message is alive. The sender of the text message is alive. He doesn't want to be in jail for the rest of his life, presumably. So if the texts have been fabricated, it would be very easy for the sender or the recipient of the text to be like, yo, bro, we're being framed by the Jews. Candace has it right. We didn't send the text. I mean, imagine if it, yes. But beyond that, if you ever wanted to throw a case and get it thrown out instantaneously, if you're a prosecutor, fabricating text messages would probably do the trick, right? Like there's no universe where these people trying to put Tyler Robinson away for life and maybe give him the death penalty are like, you know what we need to do? We need to make up a text exchange and then release it to the public. it's i can't how do people fall for this nonsense i i'm i'm worried about humanity um last one sam i want to let you off the hook thank you once again more juice once again maybe i'm involved okay um the preschool erica went to suspicious let's watch oddly the filing for uh that daycare doesn't have a floor number but i can show you this photo of her um at daycare lol by the way being dressed as a little bee and accidentally hung up some freemason hand signs that's just like a nice nice ad she looks adorable thereafter uh she moves to arizona and she attends a school that they have virtually tried to wipe from public existence now it's very difficult to explain this unless you're in the weeds but there is another school by the same name that goes on for a little bit longer but this particular school came to fruition when a man named john t goley incorporated Educational Alternatives up in Minnesota. It was called Educational Alternatives Incorporated. Now, John T. Goley was a big guy. He had formerly helped launch Roundup Monsanto, just a little bit of government poisoning you, giving you a bunch of cancer. This time, though, he was pioneering charter schools in America. He teamed up with the Walton family, the Bush family. Yeah, everybody involved in this school that Erica's going to attend. So for preschool, Erica was doing free Mason hand signs and then transferred suspiciously from one daycare to another daycare. The person that started that other preschool was funded by the charter school industry that funds every fucking charter school in the country. Like the Waltons. So that's what's happening here. And the Bushes. And the Bushes. Don't forget them. I also need to point out, you know, the reason she's saying, oh, she's dressed as a bee is because Candace has previously suggested that some sort of bee related cult killed Charlie because Mormons are really into bee symbology, beehives. And so when she looks at Utah, she sees a lot of bee stuff. And so she, so, so that's why she's saying, oh, interesting. She's dressed as a bee. Wait, come on. You have to tell me more about the bee stuff. What the fuck? Well, Mormons do a lot of like beehive symbols. They're, they're into like the metaphor of a beehive. And so in Utah, there is a lot of like beehive type stuff. in like logos and stuff. And so when she looks at Utah, she goes, oh my gosh, this organization has a bee in it and this one does. And so that made her think maybe some sort of bee related organization or secret society was involved in the assassination. And isn't it interesting that Erica's dressed as a bee in that picture? Possibly a bee cult, possibly the Freemasons, most likely the Jews, most likely the Center for Jerusalem Studies. Can't rule out the Walmart family and the Bushes because she once went to a charter school that was supported by the waltons and the bushes luckily guys how many more installments do we have of this will we don't know i mean i think they're they're gonna keep coming probably i mean she said she might do it all year if uh if ben shapiro keeps criticizing her so i should have mentioned the marine corps is also involved wrapping this up syrian lebanese here's what we know nothing erica was born maybe november 20th maybe november 22nd after that birth she went to a preschool dressed as a bee one time she went to another preschool that was supported by the walton family and the bush family okay that's what we know about her so far her parents their marriage we don't have a certificate for it but it did happen in the same city where the marine corps was birthed grandmother excuse me don't know much about the grandmother yet great grandmother illegal slots syrian lebanese on the other side the swedish freemasons and then we have the mommy aunt's uncle and mommy aunt's husband who started the Jerusalem studies center at UVU much more to learn we're going to tie all those threads together but That's what we know so far. No doubt there will be a payoff. Yeah. We'll keep you posted. Final thing. I just want to put this on the screen. The Washington Post is a little, you know, just call it right down the middle now. The newspaper formerly known as the Washington Post. They are interested in this story. They posted this post. This series promises to unearth secrets from Erica Kirk's past relevant to her stewardship of the powerful conservative nonprofit. it. Oh, come on. Just calling it like it is over the Washington Post. You know, no balls and strikes. Okay. No, we're not going to put our finger on the scale about whether Erica or Candace might be right here. They watched the first episode. They learned about the bees, the Marine Corps, the Freemasons, and the Jerusalem Study Center. And they're excited for the next installment. This has been the Potato Boys. That's Will Sommer. Sign up for his newsletter. That's Sam Stein. He's trying not to kill himself. I'm Tim Miller. We'll see you all soon. 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