Jerry Seinfeld's 10 Year Porsche 907 Restoration

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Don't waste the juice. I'm so excited to be doing a show right now. I've got Earth, Wind and Fire. I don't know who's who, what's what. Do we even know who's Earth, Wind or Fire? Yes, we do. Yeah. Who? Your Earth. Okay. He's Wind. Because he talks a lot. I'm fire. You ground it. I got it. He blows it. And I spark it. And Jerry Seinfeld is here, as we promised. He's summering or wintering on the West Coast. Yes. And drove down, special to do this show. Thank you. I'm very excited. We've already had an amazing car day. Yeah, we have. You brought a car that we're going to show everyone, a beautiful 928 that everybody knows you bought. But what I hadn't expected was today. You know, I was supposed to have breakfast with you guys and my morning got blown out and I said, I'll meet you. I've got to go to the doctor do this. And you said, come down at one. I've got my 907 long. Dish 005. Long tail. Long tail. Coming out of a 10 year restoration if you want to see it. If you want to see it. Yeah. Well, it wasn't really 10 consecutive years. It was kind of interrupted by other projects. OK. But it was, I've had it 10 years and it might as well have been 10 years for the way it came out. Let me just paint the picture here. So I came down there. You weren't ready. The door of this hanger was open and your guys were there. And I walked in and the car is sitting by itself lit up. Really? And, uh, man. This was, I mean, I've seen many of your things kind of, you know, these moments. Yeah. And it's a really interesting moment. It's a compliment to you that you have them, that you take a moment to celebrate this thing and the restoration of it and Joe Cavallari and Sam, the guy, you know, who helped you find it and buy it and look what we've done together. Right. Right. And I get there ahead of you at I was, I'm absolutely floored by this car. Suckerman, you haven't seen it. We've got some pictures here and do you think this is what I saw when I first walked in. I mean, the newness, yet the authenticity of it. Yes. It's not perfectly restored. It's one of those Seinfeld specials. Tell us what you were, what you had and what you did with it and how it came into this condition. Okay. I bought this car because it's kind of fascinating history. It has two very notable things. One is it's the very first Porsche to win a 24 hour race overall. 1968 Daytona, Vic Elford at the wheel. Mm hmm. When he was given the first Rolex Daytona watch. Yes. Which I also have. Yes. And if I recall correctly, this is the year that all three 907s that Porsche entered, they won one, two, three. One, two, three. And your car was one. Was number one. It's an eight cylinder, a flat eight. Seven, seven, one is the designation. Zuckerman, this was really an event for me personally, just being there and hearing the stories from your guys and from you. I was really, I don't know, I had a really nice time today. There's, you know, this is one of the first things that blew me away, Jerry, was this little luggage. It's a box. You had to take one of the rules of the race where you had to be able to carry a certain amount of luggage. Yes. So that little box is for your luggage. The funny thing about that luggage holder, did you hear what Joe was saying? We found a guy in Germany. Yeah. He was a mold. Right. He went, how? And then he got distracted, but I was like, how did you find this a mold, man? Right. And he was telling me about the car. I said, well, you know, you know, no, I don't, I'm not criticizing, but why 10 years? And it was an amazing story. You know, as we, as he got the car, he noticed there are nine 11 brakes on it. And there are, you know, the wrong instruments in there. And all of these things had to be fixed and put together. He literally changed everything on the cart until it was perfect. I mean, it was cool just as it was, because it's a nine oh seven long tail. There's only two of them left existing. Maybe five were made. But so this is what we saw. Joe was taking us through the car and I guess his fellow works with Joe. That's Kristen. Yeah. I love those that yellow with the X there, Jerry. That's unbelievable. This car weighs 1320 pounds. It has 278 horsepower on the V eight. Look at that. Look at the number. Yeah. Paint it on there. Nine oh seven, double oh five. I mean, every, the little elbow pads, like on a blazer there on the vendors and this seat pops out and we can show you a picture later, but on the back of it, it says Elford. Here's the other really cool thing about this car, Paul. This car started on the starting grid of Le Mans, 68, 69, 70 and 71. Really? Four consecutive years it started. And now you're going to see something that I didn't know existed. This is period correct 1968. This illuminated panel so that you would see the number of the car. Yes. But I thought this was something that Joe just did with modern technology, but no, this is something Porsche had on these, these cars. Did you know about this? No, no, I've never, I've never seen it before. Yeah. Here, take a look at this video of it turning on and off. And so you'll, so you see what we're saying here. This is some sort of trend. Yeah. It's illumination panel that's controlled by voltage and a little transistor. Yeah. I don't know. He was explaining to me and I just got lost, but that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen on a race car. Really cool. And what are you going to do with this? I have no idea. Are you going to track it? Yes. We have to drive this. Oh yes. Yes. I drove another 907 once. You and I were in, I was doing Vegas and they had a track and the hotel said, we want to give you a day at the track as part of the deal. Right. Performing at the hotel. And we went, is this 20 years ago you think? Yes. It's the day I blew the engine in the 996 GT3. One year was that car, 04 or 03? 04 or 05. Yeah. So like 20 years ago. So I'm in this car. I've never driven anything like this is a Porsche 60s racing prototype. I get in the car, I go down the straightaway, I make my first turn, I turn the steering wheel and I go, I think that was the greatest moment of my life. The feeling and I remember that. I remembered what it felt like and I thought, I wonder if this one will be the same. And I drove this car today and it was the exact same thing. Do you guys, do you want to hear some of it, how it sounds? Oh God, please. And Zuckerman started right up just like this. Boom start. Oh, isn't this tail crazy? It's like a real, it's like a plane. And it's, it has such a unique look from the back that doesn't really belie how long the day I'm thinking is from the side. Like that it's really cool. Go to the next video, you'll see Jerry drive off. Here he is. Yeah, this is fine. Look at this thing. By the way, the height is waist high spike ferristan. It's as high as my belt. If I stand next to it, that's how low this thing is. Do you sit up straight in it or you take it? No, you kind of crunch down. Wow. And you found the driving position to be comfortable. Yeah, it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. Yeah. It's a comfortable car. Look at this thing. Oh man. Oh, it's good to be Jerry Seinfeld. It's very good to be Jerry Seinfeld. Look at that. So that's 10 years of work. Yeah. And you've worked it. Well, only because Joe is so meticulous. He loves to get these details right. Yeah. It just does it for the hell of it. Yeah. I wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. You know. How does he know? Do you remember what he likes it? He said, you know, I'm happy it was a 10 year restoration because we learned so much in years eight, nine and 10. Really? They kept getting more information, more photography, more documentation. There's a shot that I took that we can put in of this air intake. Two other really cool things about this car. To the right of the yellow right there, there's a panel that lifts off and you put ice in it. You put ice in it and it helps her cool suit. A cool suit that would go through the driver's race. You know, you go into the, whatever that 7-11 thing, it was ice. You dump it in a bag of ice in there. And then just below that left corner, and they didn't know this too. Remember, he said he had to put a hole just below that venting to the lower left. There's a round hole that the air flow goes in and cools the driver too that they didn't know about. That they had to carve, you know, year nine into the body because they had a shot that was, you know, a nice low angle and he went, what's that? By the way, it was warm out today. I was driving around and things all, you were all sealed up, but the air was flowing through the air. Where is this air coming from? That's where it came from. It's that little hole down there. It's really an amazing thing. The yellowed plastic over the engine bay. Let's just look at a couple more pictures before we ignite this car. I love that detail, whatever that is. To me, that's a blip shift shirt of some kind. Keep going. Here's your little hammer. There's the spare. That's a hammer in there and a jack. And again, all required. Yeah. Yeah, but it's stuff. It's a jack and a hammer I've never seen before. This is what I kept saying to Joe, like you must lose your mind when you realize this stuff's missing. You can't go on eBay and find that. Like where do you find this stuff? I mean, you really should bring Joe on to just go through this. Oh, definitely. More detail because there's the seat that has Alfred on the back. Like who's the guy who painted? Where do you find an Alfred seat painter? Yeah. That guy. And then this angle is all, look at how neat that is. Those scoops are so cool. It's just like, you're not going to see that on any other car. I've, you know, not seen it back in like that. Anyway, genius and congratulations. Thank you. You've brought this back to the Porsche world for everybody. Yeah. It will live on after you're gone. It will. And it was pretty, I didn't realize the condition. You know, you buy these cars, you never, we were just talking about how you don't know what you're getting most of the time when you buy stuff. Yeah. And I thought I was getting the car. Yeah. Yeah. But it was a long way. It was a long way. And then of course, I don't know why. I guess just I enjoy being obsessive. And so does Joe. Let's put up a picture of Joe there. He deserves to have his moment here. There he is. There's Joe. Well, there it is. All right. Let's talk about this coin base and cars and bids auction. This is a big deal. Coin base is auctioning off this 1995 Acura NXT on cars and bids where the winner of the auction can pay for this NXT with USDC showing them just how simple it is and why USDC is the fastest and easiest way to buy a car. This meticulously maintained example, Jerry, is a one owner car with an incredible 320,000 miles. Wow. 320,000. That's quite a bit. And the fellow, what was the fellows here from cars and bids? Sean. Sean was here from cars and bids and I said, is that the highest mileage NXT? He goes, you know what? We were at the workshop because cars and bids went through every aspect of this car engine out, did all the maintenance. They wanted to be right for the buyer. And right next to it was another NSX with over 300,000 miles. Isn't that wild? Well, it's a very drivable car. Very drivable. But there were two together. Three liter V6, 270 horsepower, 210 foot pound of torque. Like I said, it was a one owner car, 320,000 miles extensive recent maintenance. I won't go into it, but cars and bids spent some money to get this right. And it's up on the site. You can also check out Doug DeMiro's YouTube channel. He just took the car out and drove it and talks about it in more detail. Cars and bids and coinbase. We thank you for advertising on Spikes Car Radio and this auction is live. It's almost over. This is your chance. And there it is, USDC license plate there for coinbase. And I and I'm hearing the coinbase guys have have nice cars too. You got some money? They got money. They got money. They're buying nice cars. But we've got more cars for you. We've got so many cars on this Seinfeld extravaganza. You've all also brought us something that you bought recently. Yes. You want to tell us about it? It's a 1979, 928 Minerva Blue. With what? Minerva. Minerva. You got a lot of Minerva. I honestly, I do have a deep vulnerability to any interesting blue and I love. I never knew that they did a blue Pasha interior fabric. So when I saw that and I saw the exterior color and I've been I've been watching and reading about these 79s, which was the first pure unadulterated 928 shape. And I was just drawn to it, but it's not the car that I'm most excited about right now. Well, you know why? I'm excited about my Fiat 128. Well, the polar opposite of this. Yes. But we don't have that. If you go, let's go through this car first and then you can tell us about that car. But this is the first time you drove it, right? You drove it over here. I drove it today and I Paul asked me, was it drive like? And I said, you ever see the videos where they're training police dogs and the guys wearing foam thing? Yes. And the dog jumps and he jumps on his arm and the guy goes, attack. That's what it's like. Driving. It has a 4.5 liter V8. These cars are really interesting because they, you know, they weren't quite sure what to do with them, right? At one point we're supposed to be mid-engine cars, but then they discovered there wouldn't be enough room for the passenger in the back and there's not much room as there is. They're, they're grant touring cars. Look at that interior. Isn't that beautiful? Beautiful. So this is really the 70s for you 70s fans. It really brings back that era of opulence and indulgence. And I guess I could use the word disco and kind of 70s idea of modern, right? And futuristic. Yeah. The entire instrument pod moves up and down with the steering wheel. That's very comfortable. And if a police dog attacks you, you'll be fine. It's the concept was a two plus two with a hatch, which is a great idea. Let's make a car like that. You also have five speed manual. That's the other thing that got me. So that combination, the interior that they had a lot of Minerva, the manual, 18,000 original miles. So I'm going to, I'm going to put an asterisk on that. I think, I think it's fake. I don't care, you know, open up the hatch from behind and show us that view. We were talking about earlier, Cameron. This is really fun. Watch, watch this. Now back up, back up. Look at this thing. Look, you can't, might not be able to tell at home, but that is a big open space. Yeah. That is a really big open space that made me want to take the hatch off and just drive it around like that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Your, your heads would be outside in the back and show everybody the interesting little addition to the hatch right there. It's like a Beverly Hills. Look at this. Homes of the Stars vehicle. Yeah. Exactly. That's a sun visor for the rear seat passengers. Look at that. I, and I was saying, like when you close the hatch, it goes right up against the seat. I don't know how you're not puking after a couple miles. Also the imporched, you know, the Porsche embossed into the steel there. That's also really cool. No, that's polyurethane. It's kind of a bumper material. It's really neat. It's a beautiful car to look at. And I think it was designed by Wolfgang Mobius, famous also for the Mobius strip. You know what that is called? No. That strip that kind of turns over on itself. Correct. Correct. Yeah, it keeps going. He did a lot of furniture. Yeah. Yeah. Despite earning early acclaim for its comfort power, futuristic design, sales were sluggish. The base prices of 928s were considerably higher than the previous range topping 911 model and the shift to front engine, water, cool design unsettled some traditional Porsche enthusiasts as it still does to this day. And to this day, yeah. We're still unsettled. But that's what's fun about it. It's really fun when smart people do dumb things. It's kind of what we see most of in the world today. Right. There's more dumb geniuses. There's also dumb people doing dumb things. Yeah. Yes. But I don't know. This car is very aesthetically pleasing from exterior design. That is 90 percent of it. It's the design, the aesthetic. Yeah. And a lot of them are nervous. And a lot of them are nervous. Well, look at you. Still going. Yeah, still going. Still going. Making choices, buying new things. By the way, that piece of glass, the rear quarter panel is the largest piece of glass they ever made for a rear panel. Really? Yeah, it's gigantic. It is. Look at it. Weirdly shaped. The whole thing is just, you know, just one of these cool weird. Do you remember what on the inside? I don't think you can open that little gas door. Yeah, you can. Is it is it open from the outside? This was funny, Zuckerman. You've never seen this, I guarantee you. See what it says on there? It's good. You got to maybe pull it out. Yeah, flip that thing. It's like that thing open. Oil OK. Is your oil OK? And I oil OK. Oil OK, because these things famously just went through courts of oil. Really? So they had to put a reminder on the flap. What are you sure your oil is OK? It reminds me of these gambling sites when on the bottom corner, they always says gambling problem with a question mark. It's so friendly, the little question mark. What do you mean? Why do you ask? No, I'm just curious. Notice you had to refinance your house after that miss field. And we have one of the one of the ones on the tennis channel has slow gambling. We will slow your gambling down in really have a problem. We're going to help you. Slow gambling. If we keep it slow, the problem won't be that bad. Yeah, is that their solution? Really? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, slow, slow crack smoking. You need to slow the crack. It's down. It's exactly right. Just people wanting to get things off their desk. You know, we're going to have this gambling site. We got the license. We can put it in everybody's pocket every second of the day. Well, what about all the addiction? We're going to deal with that. We're going to do that. What are you going to do? We're going to we're going to help them with that. We're going to get them addicted and then we're going to help them with that. Three people pressed it and all three said, now we're OK. Yeah, after a day, after a day, fine. You know, last week in the show, I was having a little fun with Red Bull and their new hypercar, six million dollar hypercar. That was funny. Yeah. Thank you. But people were giving me giving me a lot of help for us. Well, we were saying today, for some reason, one of the things that you get with the car gene is they take your humor gene away. That's right. Yeah. They really think this shit matters. They didn't understand the bit. Yeah, I was doing. I would rather have an A and W root bear hypercar. I didn't understand where I was just going. I was antagonizing Johnny and having some fun. But you would never be interested in something like that, right? You're not really a hypercar guy or you do have a 918. I have a 918, which I guess is a hypercar, but a very practical one. Is that the is that there it is? Yeah, yeah. Fair. I was like, I had like a cream soda car. Creamsicle. And, you know, of course, we know that they're big in F1 racing and. I don't know. I just thought there's a difference, though, sometimes between sponsoring things and then doing the thing, you know, and you could make the argument, OK, well, the Barbie movie. Yes, Mattel made a great movie and I guess. Happened once. But once. One time. But I'd rather watch movies from non Mattel people. I don't know. That's the only point I was trying to make. The thing I the question you always have to ask with a car like this is, yeah, I could get in it and I could drive it and I would enjoy that. But when I get out, yeah, and people see me getting out, how do I feel then? Crawling. This is a track only car and I think it's a track. Yeah, track only. It's already been sold. So they're going to be just fine. They're good for you. Hey, let me show you this picture and I want to know how you feel one year out right now. How do you feel? Are you OK? I'm OK. One year ago, almost to the day, this car sold at auction. Isn't it interesting that you had this beautiful 907? I found this to be fascinating that if I were you and I can't speak for you, I would be long forgetting about this car. Yeah, what I just saw today. Anything you have for 20 years of your life. Yeah, is enough. That's enough of that. Yeah. Do something else. Was that the numbers influenced on your sale? 20 years. No, it just happened to be. But yeah, the 907 is actually a little more interesting to me. Fantastic. And Joe was saying as he went through the car, you could see that they spent a lot more time developing it. Nine 17s, they kind of rushed. Right. Because they had 25 of them really fast. Whenever you're here, I need to know what you're who you're watching on YouTube. I don't mean to put you in the spot, but are you watching? Do you have any new YouTube guys that you're watching? I saw a guy. Who walked into a field. He bought a house and there was a Volvo in the field. Yes. That was completely deteriorated, decrepit and decayed. Yes. And he says, I'm going to see if I can get this started. And it was like, didn't we talk about this guy? He was fantastic. Yeah, I don't think we watched it, but we didn't talk about it on the show. We didn't. I don't think so. Do you know who this guy was? No, you're right. It was on our text thread. It was on our text thread. Go ahead. Let's see if we can find this guy. Usually these things give me anxiety. Yeah, he really he felt like he had a really firm grip on this. That's what fascinated me about it. The cheerful. Oh, wait. Yes. Yes. You knew he was this guy. We were going to have this guy on the show. And that was that would have been a mistake. Super excited. But I reached out to him. Is that him? Destination adventure. That's right. Yeah, that's him. That's definitely him. Look at this car, Paul. You saw the pile of shit. So if you thought I'm going to get this running, where it sits. And look at the condition. Yeah. But you're right, Paul, the whole point of this video, this guy's attitude about doing this is something you don't see. You realize it gives you confidence that maybe humanity will survive as an idea. The opposite of my father, my father addressing any problem, screaming, cursing, having a fit. So watching him do this, bought back some PTSD memories of watching my father. But then he calmed me and he came through. Right. It a really great moment. It really changed my entire mood for a number of days that somebody could do this, that they thought of doing it, that they went about doing it. It looks he doesn't even put new oil in it. Oil's been it's 30 year old oil. She was so methodical. Yeah. So easy going. Yeah. Dustin Porter is the man's name. Yeah, he's a great man. And you were all excited after you watched this video and you said this guy to both Zuckerman and I. Immediately I messaged him on Instagram and he was just like, I don't even understand what's happening. Jerry Seinfeld's one of my videos. This is the kind of stuff I watch. Here he is. Because don't you feel that in life we all need to see these triumphs against long odds. Yeah, encouraging. Yeah, it is. It's uplifting. You got to really if you watch the whole thing, you see the garbage piled up in the back, the windows are broken out. You think this and then he takes like a hammer to the to the ignition. It's just that hammering at it. Like, what are you doing? You'll never start now. That's how we fixed it. Coincidentally, I think I sent Cameron, I think I sent a Volvo 240 from an Instagram post that was an ad from Volvo way back in the day. Throw that up. Look at this. Oh, it's great. How great is that? I'm a big Volvo 240 guy now. But Cameron, see if you could find him hammering away with it. Right before he starts it up. OK, look at what he's doing to the ignition. I'm watching this. I'm going, no, don't hammer it. You'll never get it started now. You need the ignition to start the car. But that's that's what this guy does. The wheels are completely sunken into the earth. He drives this car out of there. Wow. In the end, yeah, he finds a tire in the back, manages to inflate that. He pulls that out of it. What is that? It's just betting. Yeah. Old couch stuff. His mission is just to drive it to the dump. That's what he's trying to get it out of there. Just to get it out and throw it away. And then back around the rig, triple spin, double flip over the speed bump through the couch. Double. Full speed. OK, so he's planning where he's going to go. Rear postures. Be a piece of cake. Yeah, there he gets it started. Amazing. How long did this take him? It's a real shame to get rid of such a good right here. Real shame. Just driving it to the dump. All that work. Wow, that is so cool. Move. The pretty limited breaks. What do you expect? Pretty limited everything. Jesus. Oh, man. Good for you. 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Shop at race deck dot com use code SPIKE 356 for an exclusive 15% off and free shipping. And we thank race deck for sponsoring the show. Well, what's your favorite Japanese car? Well, that's a good question. That is, you know, there's there's so many. Lately I've been looking at these 2000 GTs. These Toyota's. Yeah, they're interesting. And I've been looking at that going. That's really a car I would I would love to drive at least once in my life. I drove a Mazda Cosmo. The Wanker also great. With the inter-episode rate. Comedians and cars. That was really cool. But yeah, the car, I really want a Honda Accord. Yeah. Just a new one. Just a new one. Like the one I had growing up, like you're talking. No, no brand new brand new one with the funny fonts on the back. Pull up a Honda Accord so we can look at this thing. Just feel like they've been doing this so long. That's the new Honda Accord. Is that it? That's it. You want that? Looks like a Chevy Citation a little bit. Yeah. With this little back. That's I in a car universe. I'm talking to car people. There are ordinary things that can be appealing. Yeah. For some reason, I love the panel below the headlights. I find it interesting. I've always liked this brand. They seem honest. Styling, it is kind of funky. But find some more pictures here. Let's look at some other angles. So I don't know that this one's doing it for me. Look, take, pick out a picture and tell us which one it is. Now let's look at that gray one in the middle camera in the lower. Yeah, that one there, right where your cursor is. That's a good angle of it. You see how that front aspect is designed? You really like this, huh? I really like it. But I just feel it appeals to you. You're a regular person and you need a regular car. Right. I feel like Honda always brings a certain slight elegant restraint to their design. Some of this stuff, you know, it really looks like nobody cared at all. What about the Civic? Like the Civic, don't they make a Civic? I don't like the Civic. What's your historic Honda favorite? Pull that up. Well, the first Civic and the first Accord. Yes. So you don't really like that. So Jerry, you don't like this? No, at all. This is very ungainly. The front, it's bulbous. I like this. This appeals to me. I hear, I hear their fantastic cars. So I wouldn't drive them. But that is an awful proportion. And look at how many different horizontal lines there are in the front aspect. And in Congress angles and, oh, you know, I like it. You know, I like it. Why? It's sporty. That's a sporty car right there. You like them sporty? I like them sporty. Yeah. Tell that story. I already remember the story. He's a guy in a gas station and you said something about the color. You see, I like the color and he said to you, I like them sporty. I like them sporty. He keeps making us laugh. Anyway, these are supposed to be good. They're OK. All right. They're all right. They're fine. Yeah. Fine. What regular TV are you watching? Regular TV I'm watching Ken Burns American Revolution on PBS. So you I love that. You sit down and watch it on the couch. No, no, I watch on the exercise machine. I see. I can't just sit on the couch. Right. But you know, you read this stuff. He tells you the whole story. Go there. The American troops were in Montreal trying to take the fortress up there. They couldn't do it. So it's winter. Well, let's go back to boss. They walk back to boss in the winter from Monterey. No gloves. No Patagonia. No gloves. No gloves in 1700s. Yeah. And they walk. And they just walk. And you're walking on the treadmill. Yeah. And you're just going, wow. Yeah. You go, wow, I'm just like them. We love Ken Burns. Ken is he really can take anything. I mean, they're great subjects, but he really knows how to just grab you. And it's like, you know, we used to talk about in the Seinfeld writers room, like there are movies you just can't turn off. A Ken Burns documentary, I can't turn off. It really holds your attention. Really neat stuff. Really great. I love that Ken Burns gag we did with him. We tried to make it Ken Burns unfrosted movie. Kenny, here's my problem. I need to legitimize this. With your little boy haircut. Super fun. All right. Well, we got a ton of questions. I know you like questions. Let's see what you like. Again, you can answer them. You can mock them. We can move right past them. I wanted to talk about one 28. So we'll do that. Okay. No, no, let's do that. I will do it next week. No, no, let's do it. No, I like we have plenty of time. Just go ahead. You're right. My first car was a Fiat 128 Sport L. What year? Pull it up. 73. Okay. There you go. Look at that. Okay. And then we went on the left. I owned that car. You did. Yeah. But I didn't really like the green. But I buy I buy any one of these that I can. Find in decent condition. Why? Because they're great. They're rack and pinion steering independent rear suspension 1300 ccs. It's fun. It was kind of quick. It's not quick, but I mean, you know, compared to a Chevy Vegas better. It was so exotic. Paul, you can't imagine in Massa Piqua, there was nothing like this. Nobody had anything like this. Nobody. So this was my first chance to show the world that I'm different. And I'm cooler and I'm smarter than you. But you never, but you did get one. I have. Yeah. I have three of them now. Yeah. But how old were you when you got your first one? Did you get one when you? Yeah. I was 19. 19. 2600 dollars out the door. Wow. Yeah. That's it. My mother paid for half of it. That's so nice. Yeah. And I drove to California in it and got to see LA San Francisco. I drove it everywhere. And you don't know where that car is right now. No, I wish I did. Yeah. Wow. So you've now gone back and bought that car to re-experience it. Yes. And I find that driving it, I go, I was right. I was right. These were great for what they were in their time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In 1973, gas crisis. Right. Car, you got a 30-mph car here that's fast and fun to drive. It's not fast. It was fast to me. Yeah. Because it was manual. Yeah. Nobody in Mesa Piqua had a stick. Yeah, no, I know. That was the Honda Accord that I drove. It was shocking. We thought we were in race cars. That orange one looks fantastic. I have that one. Is that your car? No, but I have to say I have that car. How many of you owned over the years? Four. So would you recommend these two collectors who don't have a lot of money? No. Why? Why not? It's too personal. Yeah, no, I would. I mean, you got to be up for the maintenance. It's not a... It's Italian. It's not a no-fuss, no-much. You got to take care of it. But it's not stupidly fragile. It's just... It was made to a price. And... But they're light, you know. The steering is great. They're just fun. They're smart. Transverse four-cylinder. I don't know. I just like... I love Fiat's from the 70s. And VW's from the 60s. This isn't that for something called Bluetooth. Oh, God. Here we go again. Again with these feet. Come on, Zegerman. You're going to love it. Fellas. You already know what time it is. It's time to level up. Bluetooth just dropped something crazy. I'm talking about next level champion belt. Gold-plated energy. Bluetooth gold. What did they send us, Zegerman? They sent us packets of that, right? And whip. They sent us a special pen light. Is that what you're talking about? Yes, I am. And it's like a bat light. But instead of a bat, it's a weenie. And you can shine the weenies wherever you want. Who are you texting? Looks like something happened in baseball. Oh, okay. Tell me. Did we... They were supposed to send us 100 of these. I took some Bluetooth gold. I took some. Whatever you do, don't chew it. That's... It is chewable, but you don't have to chew it. It was like the worst kid's vitamin. You snored it. I called Zegerman and I go, Take it on. I'm going to give you a bag of this. This turn... This is not something I needed. I'll just say that. But it's a new experience. It gives you a new experience. I have some friends that have been telling me this. This is a totally new experience. And what appealed to me was this was a crazy combination of four different things. Things that like apomorphine, oxytocin to turn up arousal, and then the other stuff to get the, as they say, the rocket pumping. But it turns you into a different guy. And once you've had the experience, you're like, Okay, what's next? Where are we? What's next? Let's go. And then for 36 hours, it's like, you look at a mailbox and it's like, when it's going to stop, like your first beer. But I'll tell you where I really loved it is, because it's just, it's bringing blood to the surface, it feels like it heals a lot of your workout paints. Then I read that, and I'm not saying that you should do this, that professional athletes take this stuff before they play games, like NFL players and the rest of it. He's told that. But don't do that. That's what you want. He knocks you down and then he's, he's, he's, he's breaks up on top of you. Just what you want. I can attest for the first time that I've taken Bluetooth. And if that's something you're into, you'll like it a lot. Bluetooth gold. And we've got a special deal for you listeners. Get 10% off your first month of Bluetooth gold with code spike 911. That's promo code spike 911. Visit blutsu.com for more details and important safety information. We thank Bluetooth for sponsoring the show. The first is not very happy with that sponsor. You like that stop. You know, I had, I had three or four of those packets. You sent them. Yeah, they disappeared. They were on my desk. They were all gone. They somebody came here. Shoplisters. I'm telling you. Shoplisters in my office. This was in this gave me insight into this new area that people are doing not necessarily because they need it. Just it's because it creates a new you. So that all you got to do is just ask people in your office to stand up. Yeah, exactly. Where they went. Wow. All right. Robert May wants to know. And again, you can mock these questions. We can skip questions. If you don't like it, we'll just move on. OK. I've got there are hundreds of them. OK. Right. First set comes from our friends at Patreon. Robert May, what three fifty six do you recommend starting with? The C three fifty six C. There you go. Most drivable, most advanced. You've got a pretty one in your hanger. That blue one. The blue one. Yeah. Sixty four. It's not in the class of my friends. The orange one, but it's nice. That is a good looking car. OK. Jack wants to know what do air cooled Porsches force you to accept as a driver that modern cars try to protect you from? That's a tricky wording question. You can skip it if you like. I think you need to rephrase. There's a court room. May I rephrase? Yes. Air cooling doesn't protect you or or make you vulnerable. Actually makes you less vulnerable because you don't have to deal with water pumps and hoses and liquids. Nogman wants to know what's up with the nine forty fours. Jerry got a while back. Are the transaxles out? No, I still love. I have a black nine forty four turbo that I still love. But I bought a. A race car, the club sport turbo coop. They're called. It was a Canadian race series. But they were a little rough. They were a little rough for the street. So I don't know if they'll stay. Do you still have the black one? I still have the black one, yeah. Jerry, is there something that you this is from Rob Kay's. There's something that you carry with you each day. I carry a tag heuer that I bought in 1995. Is there something you keep with yourself every day? Uh oh, Swiss Army knife. No, I know what it is. Handkerchief. That's it, really? Yeah, I have a handkerchief with me at all times. In the 90s, it used to be a Swiss Army knife, right? I used to have a Swiss Army knife, but now I guess keep it in my backpack. But yeah, I never go anywhere without a Swiss Army knife. There we go. Pugs and Porsches wants to know, do you like Waymo's? I do. I cut one off today. And I thought, he'll see me. I don't worry. With a person you don't know, with a Waymo, you know, he's watching. I was having trouble getting into a left lane today, and the Waymo was next to me, and I made a little flinch like that, and it stopped. Really? And it let me in. Yeah, you can play the Waymo. You can play the Waymo. Yeah, you can mess with it. That's right. Tom Lindman wants to know, how do you handle breaking down in older cars? For you, that's easy, right? You just call somebody. I call, somebody helps me. Yeah, they call and someone helps you. All right, let's go to Instagram here. Oh boy, there's so many. And Lieberman, of course, complaining that he's not here. Shut up. I had a question. You guys don't know that, even though this is a car show, and you guys are supposed to know about cars, you really don't know that much. That's right, thank you. But I have a question that was rattling around in my head. It has for many, many years. You know, in our entire life, they always charge you more for a more powerful car. Correct. How much more money does it cost to build a car that has 30 more horsepower than the other car? I think they've been scamming us all these decades. Absolutely. They will pay more for something more powerful. But what is the difference in the manufacturer of the eight to one. That's right. Versus a 10 to one. It's all, it's gotta be all the same. That's right. It's just a way to screw you, isn't it? Of course, yes, of course. So all these cars cost the same to make is what is the truth. You know, it's funny, you know, I'm gonna pivot to the GT3 Touring packages. You know, when you look through this stuff, you have to look at the prices now and go, is this worth it? Like the lightweight package is something I keep getting calls about on GT3 Touring guys. How much is that? I don't know, you can look it up, but it's tens of thousands of dollars. How is it worth it? Right. Yeah. And when you and I built our GT3 Touring that hasn't come yet, we quickly eliminated it. We just thought it's not really reducing weight that much weight. What are we paying for? Aside from some appearance package stuff, but there's an insecurity that there it is. Look at that. Oh wait, sorry, $36,000. Wow. Carbon fiber bucket seats. I don't know if that's right. That's AI that might be wrong, but you could look it up underneath there. But you're right. As far as like a little extra added horsepower, yeah, of course. Yeah, why is this one? The prices are always kind of commensurate with the horsepower increase of course. Everything. You get the bragging rights. It's got an S, this little badge on the car. Right. So they... Is this all fake? If you go back to some of the old muscle cars, right? And you would pay extra for if you wanted a special option in your Corvette. You actually got a real racing engine and you could differentiate what was in that engine or how they made it from the base model. But I think today, where it's so easy for them to get more horsepower, I don't think that there is much you're paying for the difference. All right, look, here's the lightweight package. Look at this. Oh my God. What do we get? What do we get for lightweight package? Keep going down. What does it say? These options are available. So magnesium wheels, all right. That's worth some money. I don't know if it's worth that much money. This is essentially, it's like a VISAX package, right? Total price change, 43, boy, oh boy. That's wild, huh? It used to be like a really, that's a nice car for 43. I could get that Honda Accord, I've always wanted. You do what you were getting if you got a 4 cam versus a pushrod. Right. That's understandable. Right. That's expensive, huh? That's really rough. But let's say a regular, a 1600 versus a Super. Right. Or you have your orange car as an SC versus the plain C. It's another 20 horsepower or something. Does it cost them that much more money to make that? Do they charge that much more at the time? I don't know. They always do. I would assume it's, there's some development money and things that, you know, it'd be a case by case basis, right? If you're developing it, it'd get that cost a lot of money, you'd have to, but overall I think, yeah, it's a way to charge us more. Super deluxe. Right. Like when you go to the shell cheap car wash there, you want the single wash, the super deluxe or the super duper deluxe. So the car and Google wax. Yeah, and they're just spraying you with a hose. So is there a difference? So the big question is there a difference in the gas between regular, medium and super, right? Do you really know when you go to push that 90 because you want to take care of your car? Right. You want to be good to your car like you want to be good to your puppy dog. Right. And you get that 91. You'll be fine. It's the same shit. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. Yes, yes. The recycling bin. Where's that going? Where are they dumping that stuff in your backyard? Right. The Fisher Chris Stevens wants to know when Jerry would frequent the Porsche swap meets, especially Hershey in early 2000s. Yes. What things would you be hunting for there? Women. I really like old literature. I love old car brochures and collectible items, espresso cups or something like that from the day. Yeah. That's the kind of stuff that I like. Oh, a little badge for your car going over 100,000 miles is the kind of thing I would like. Where is, you know, you've been collecting this crap for a long time. Long time. Where is it? Is it Indiana Jones warehouse at this point? No, no, I got it in my office. All the stuff I like. Some of it, I guess is in a box somewhere. But I surround myself with it in my office to distract me from working. Yeah, but that's just some of them, right? Like the Vic Alfred Hall itself was a huge mistake. It was like on 20 tables. Where's all that? I have that. Yeah, but it's not on display. No, I have to think of something to do with it. I'll probably donate it to the Porsche Museum. Okay. What are they going to do with it? That's what I thought. Ryan Stern wants to know, what would Marcus Aurelius drive? That's a good question. He'd be back to the Honda. Excellent. He'd be in a Honda. He's a Stoic. Yeah, he's a Stoic. Really? That's it? That's a Stoic car. Yeah, it is. It's very Zen. It's very, why focus on what other people are doing? If this is all you need, then focus on that. Focus, Marcus would only want what he needed to do, what he needed to do. Now, Caligula would be in the Lamborghini, right? No, he'd be in the Red Bull car. He'd be in the Red Bull car. Irish Green 912 guy, what are your best scores from the LA Litshow? Which is coming up. We haven't gone to it. I was going to ask you today, do you want to go back? We haven't been back in years. Our last visit was the week COVID started. Right, remember? You looked at me and you went, see that guy in the buffet? He's got it. We got to get out of here. It's like, I think you're right. He was coughing into the buffet. The last time I was there, I bumped into a good friend of mine, Nick Clements. European collectibles. Eat good food. Fine fellow. We had a chance. Well, what did you buy? What have you found there? You always get great stuff. I get great stuff. You know, I like old Max Hoffman stuff. He was the first importer of European cars into the States and he made some like pen holders and model things for people that sold. I have a thing, if you sold 100 Porsches, he gave you this Chrome 550, which I have. It's really big. It's like, yeah, yeah. I was reading about him. He was a bit of a scoundrel. Really? Yeah. He played a little fast and loose, but he was super clever. But he was always like, definitely the factory wanted to get paid up front from him. And but he figured out how to get BMWs into this country and he was going to distribute them. And he put a clause in the contract that if they, for every BMW ever sold, he would get a commission. They didn't realize that. So when they went to a dealership model, he just sat back. They had to pay him on each and every car. Wow. Yeah, but he still, he still died broke. Really? Yeah, yeah, he was always going through it. He always had a scheme. I have a thing of his, it's like a pen set like from a bank in the 50s. And it's called, he renamed the company Hoffman Porsche. Really? Corporation, yeah. A little bit ballsy. Yeah. Maybe we should take more Solomon Seinfeld. We'll just throw that in there. To answer your question, we should definitely go this year. I would love to go back there. Okay, let's do it. It was always fun. When I was first getting into the hobby and I went with you the first time, I couldn't believe these people would come from different parts of the world and they go, Jerry, I didn't put this on the table. I've been saving this just for you. Oh, God, the shit they hand you. And they would just hand you these beautiful cars. Yeah, yeah, it's really cool. Really weird, cool, weird stuff. Yeah, it's so fun. What did you call some of the stuff pre-garbage? It's about it. Some of it would go right into the trash, but most of it was really tasty key chains for original 356 things. And, oh man. Does Jerry have any cool Norah McDonald stories? No, I did a really fun episode of comedians and cars, but we didn't spend much time. I, Colin Quinn and him used to do, they used to co-headline some casinos because they were both ex weekend update hosts. And they used to work together and Colin would tell me the crazy things that Norm would eat at these casinos. He'd get like, he'd order like two cheeseburgers and before that he'd had two chocolate thick shakes before the cheeseburgers came. Yeah. But I think, but he knew he was sick, nobody else did. So he, I think he was just living in that. So he was Warren Zivon-ing it. Yeah, yeah, right. Just go for it, just eat, enjoy it. If Portia asked three of you to create a fourth heritage series 9-11 inspired by the 1980s. What are we gonna bring back from the 80s? They're making good stuff right now. If she were a four, she would do a club sport something, I guess. Yeah, but isn't that a GT3? That's true. It's a great package. You know, I'll tell you one of the greatest cars that just kind of got made. And I don't know, I think it's somewhat unappreciated was Grant Larson's design study for the Boxster at the Detroit Auto Show. Looks nothing like the car that was produced. The proportions of that car. Cameron, pull up a picture of that car, the Boxster Show car there. There it is. That is the coolest guy looking thing. The guy standing around at that shot right there. Yeah, this is the one that I lost my mind when I saw it. Look at the proportions of that car. And Boxster did not come out like that. That's really a 550 update. Yeah, yeah. That's the car that I want. If I could have any car. Well, why couldn't we get a Boxster from that year and send it to Portia and re-engineer it? We get the Volvo dirt guy to chop it. Chop the wheel base down for us. No, but they have it there. Dust in the dirt guy. Yeah, they do have a program where they would make this for you from a regular Boxster. They would do it. I think it's a great idea. They do? Yeah, sure. They have a custom program where they'll make you, you know, make your dream come true. But do you see what I'm saying? Look at the overhangs, the front and rear overhang, how tight they are. The centers of the wheels, that kind of bronzy color. I can tell in the photo who came up with the red interior. Right over the driver's head. Look, it was me, Sir Redmond. And you see in those vents in the door, you could see little propellers. Yeah. You ever see those? Yeah, yeah. It's so cool. This car just blew my mind when I saw it. Well, this is the 90s, I guess, right? Yeah. 93, I believe it was broke cover. And this is where I was writing for Dave and I said, I saw my first new car. I'm gonna start saving to get this thing. Ask Jerry what he's currently working on with Larry. Are you working with Larry David right now? Larry and I have made something. I think it's been out there. It's a HBO 250th anniversary of America this July 4th. That's right. And Larry did a show and I did, I made an appearance on the show. Is that show out? Not yet, July 4th. Not yet. I think I do have... Yeah, there it is. What are we looking at there? That's Lewis and Clark. Yes. That's fantastic. Comedy team of the 1600s. Wow, that's exciting. Yeah. Well, Jerry, thank you so much for doing the show. This has been wonderful. It's been good to have you back. It's been good to podcast with the original crew. Yeah. Earth, wind and fire. And I'm happy you're out here this winter. You gotta come back in a minute. We had such a nice day with you. It was so nice. If you're a Patreon subscriber, I think Jerry, we were gonna drive Jerry's 928, but he suckered him and he saw your car, your M3 there. I'd like to drive that Italian M3. He wants to drive it around the block. Is that okay with you? Yes. Let's go and scrap it and do it. All right, we'll do it. And we'll see you next week. Spikes Car Radio. 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