Summary
The New Rory & MAL episode covers Valentine's Day reflections, internet literacy crisis around conspiracy theories (Vlad's satirical Jay-Z tweet), music reviews of Brent Faiyaz's 'ICON' album and Jilly From Philly's project, and a candid voicemail discussion about sexual preferences and communication in relationships.
Insights
- Internet users struggle to identify satire and sarcasm, treating obvious parody as legitimate conspiracy theories, indicating a broader literacy and critical thinking crisis
- Album quality and artistic consistency matter more than vocal prowess; Brent Faiyaz's production choices and songwriting elevate his work despite not being a technically strong vocalist
- Sexual communication in relationships requires vulnerability and partner compatibility; shame and fear of judgment prevent honest conversations about preferences
- Social media algorithms create echo chambers where people seek validation of existing beliefs rather than engaging with nuance or context
- New York hip-hop artists like A-Bogie maintain relevance by evolving their sound while preserving their core identity, avoiding the dated quality of peers from the same era
Trends
Decline of NBA All-Star Weekend entertainment value as flagship events (dunk contest, three-point contest) lose cultural relevanceR&B artists experimenting with production and sonic direction while maintaining lyrical substance to avoid one-dimensional artist perceptionIncreased scrutiny of artist collaborations and features as indicators of cultural capital and industry relationshipsSocial media's role in spreading misinformation through decontextualized clips and algorithmic amplification of sensational narrativesGenerational shift in hip-hop where consistency and longevity matter more than viral moments or trendy production stylesNormalization of discussing sexual preferences and kinks in mainstream media as part of relationship health conversationsInternational players gaining prominence in NBA All-Star events, shifting the competitive balance of American basketball showcase
Topics
Internet Misinformation and Satire RecognitionR&B Album Production and Artistic EvolutionSexual Communication in RelationshipsHip-Hop Artist Consistency and LongevityNBA All-Star Weekend Format and Entertainment ValueSocial Media Algorithm and Echo ChambersMusic Criticism and Fan ExpectationsNew York Hip-Hop Culture and Legacy ArtistsCelebrity Conspiracy TheoriesKink Shaming and Sexual OpennessValentine's Day Dating DynamicsCo-Parenting and Holiday EtiquetteMusic Production and Sonic IdentityPodcast as Platform for Artist DiscourseInternet Culture and Critical Thinking
Companies
Boost Mobile
Primary sponsor offering unlimited talk, text, and data plans at $25/month with no contracts or price hikes
Hard Rock Bet
Sports betting platform offering daily promos, same-game parlays, live betting, and player prop options
Rock Nation
Jay-Z's entertainment company referenced in satirical conspiracy theory discussion about Tory Lanez case
Spotify
Music streaming platform referenced in context of album releases and listening data
YouTube
Platform discussed as potential venue for NBA dunk contest featuring YouTube dunkers
Netflix
Streaming service referenced in context of content creation and audience reach
iHeart Podcasts
Network distributing the New Rory & MAL podcast
People
Brent Faiyaz
R&B artist whose album 'ICON' is extensively reviewed and praised as potentially his best work
Frank Ocean
Referenced as comparison point for Brent Faiyaz's artistic evolution and consistency in R&B
Lil Wayne
Rapper discussed regarding substance in lyrics and LaRussell's critical comments about his catalog
LaRussell
Artist whose comments about Lil Wayne's lyrics were taken out of context and amplified on social media
Tory Lanez
Referenced in context of Vlad's satirical tweet about conspiracy theories and PR strategy
Jay-Z
Referenced in satirical conspiracy theory discussion about alleged involvement in legal cases
Barack Obama
Former president mentioned for casually confirming existence of aliens in recent interview
A-Bogie
Bronx hip-hop artist praised for maintaining consistent sound and relevance over decade-plus career
Jilly From Philly
Rapper whose debut album is reviewed as having substance and positive messaging
Shane Curry
Music industry figure who passed away; episode concludes with condolences to family and friends
Vince Carter
Referenced as iconic NBA dunk contest performer from previous era
Michael Jordan
Referenced as legendary dunk contest performer setting standard for current athletes
LeBron James
Discussed regarding potential dunk contest participation and brand implications
Stephen Curry
Referenced as elite athlete who could dominate one-on-one competition at All-Star Weekend
Megan Thee Stallion
Referenced in satirical conspiracy theory about alleged payoffs in legal case
Quotes
"Valentine's Day is we should call it revelations. A lot is revealed. A lot of you'll find out who's pregnant, you'll find out who's married, you'll find out who's back with their ex."
Rory•Early in episode
"We're in a literacy crisis. I know this is a very minuscule thing, but it is a perfect metaphor of how the internet is really ruining the entire world."
Mal•During Vlad conspiracy discussion
"If you don't think aliens are real, I don't know what you're doing with your life."
Rory•Obama aliens discussion
"This album, yo, shout out to the branch, shout out to the team who ever worked on this project. Y'all niggas went in there and did what the fuck y'all were supposed to do."
Mal•Brent Faiyaz 'ICON' review
"A-Bogie could save New York if you guys would just listen. He's one of the few artists from that generation where he had, he still has his sound, but he does not sound dated."
Rory•A-Bogie discussion
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Oh, Ram boys is back to business pause. What? We the Ram boys. That's yeah, so that is a pause. It's a bit of a pause. How? It's a little bit of a pause. How? I don't know. It's just this. I don't make the rules. I can't believe that. That's a playoff of our Rory and Monog. I can't believe that. I understood the acronym. This is Ram boys just feels. Yeah, I'm with the Ramis. Are the Rams? I don't know. We should hand out all the words called the Ramis. We said that about four years ago, baby. We asked you to design a trophy. You asked me to design a fucking trophy. You know, I can't design shit. I can't even draw a circle right. That's why we asked him to see my dad's. He might have to design a trophy. That's why we had a Ramis because you can't draw. See, there you go. Well, the Ramis are sponsored by Boost. We are back. We are back. Unlimited talk. Happy Valentine's Day to everyone. Happy Valentine's Day. What is it? Happy Valentine's Day. It has to be something. Psychic appreciation day. Oh, no, no. We always appreciate the side cheeks. I'm talking about like coming off of Valentine's Day. Like, what's that? Some appreciate them more than their own girl. Yeah, I mean, well, you know, this is like happy. Tell me about it. This is lovers week. This still loves lovers bliss. Happy lovers bliss week. Yeah. It's going to sound corny, but I didn't realize how many people that I follow are in love. I love to. I don't realize how many people I follow was pregnant. Yeah. I didn't realize how many people I follow was in relationships. I didn't realize how many people was engaged. That usually happens like around the first day of school. I got to stop. You've had a kid this whole time. Yeah, ladies, I got to stop doing the pregnancy reveal on Valentine's Day. Cause it would be flirting. And you hear you are eight weeks pregnant. Eight weeks pregnant. Maybe she didn't know. Maybe she didn't know. No, I didn't know. Don't have me to flirt with you. You don't don't have me to flirt with you. Especially in New York state. It's time. She got to get out of time. But if you grasp all the little ladies that you know, you got to get rid of homie before, before you start flirting with you. Even if you plan on taking home into the glue factory, you can't flirt until, until that's the reason why not. You can't give a niggas some pregnant pussy even though you plan on getting rid of the baby. Who? If you plan on getting rid of the baby, you could give them some pregnant pussy. Get cool. The guy that got you pregnant or the guy that, then you're next victim. That's what I mean. At least you have to worry about getting pregnant. You could let him, you could let him come in you and then, you know, nothing's gonna matter. Ted, I think it's not me, daddy. Not in me, daddy. Two minutes in on Netflix. I know, we got hot. No, that's bad. That's so powerful. Anti-I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Just know boost mobile is just as responsible as all of us for everything that we said. Because boost mobile, they sponsored the unlimited taxes I had to send out after I found out women I've been flirting with are pregnant. I was like, yeah, why are you ain't telling me? I would have been like unfodeled you and all of that. Now you Uncle Mona. No, I'm not. I'm not an uncle. No, I'm not an uncle. Finding out the niggas that being your dims, dims, your dims, all year around, have girlfriends every year. It's like they surprise me every year. I love it. I love seeing y'all cry when y'all realize that you don't like that. I love that. Not true. Okay. I love seeing women, you know, realize where you stand in their life. You know what I mean? Because it's good. Valentine's Day is we should call it revelations. Okay. Revelation. A lot is revealed. A lot of you'll find out who's pregnant, you'll find out who's married, you'll find out who's back with their ex that they kept kicking in the back since Christmas. You find all of these things out on Valentine's Day. I love it. Not a lot of time. Maybe the how you feel. Maybe the how you feel. Maybe the how you feel. We got different algorithms. I only saw love. I only saw love. I was kind of shocked by the way. It was a lot of love too. Let me put that out there. It was a lot of love. Fellas, y'all did your thing. A lot of the fellas. I saw doing good things for the ladies. So look to the fellas out there that really show up and show out on Valentine's Day for that woman. That doesn't go and know the salute to y'all. Gosh, okay. What'd you do? Nothing. I was home watching the worst dunk contest of all time. All star Saturday. We'll get to that. We're going to get to that. That's what I was doing. Did you at least text if you went in happy Valentine's Day? I get off the way. I always need to be. I get off the way. I love it. I can do that. I get off the way. I'm not going to even play with a woman and have her thinking that you know, get off the way. Just a text. No, no, I'm not doing that because the text. I got text. My cash. I ain't go off my zelden ring. Like it's like damn. We don't need to be texting that girl anyways. Yes, you know. If I say happy Valentine's Day and you say my cash. I didn't ring. I don't know. Who do you text happy Valentine's Day? Who would you text happy Valentine's Day too? Because you didn't text me and I'm one of your home girls. So you don't text me to your home girls. I just said I got my mother's love. I would have text you baby D, but you know, I clip was doing numbers. You know, I Valentine's clip was doing you know what I was saying. They was hitting my line to my old ski egg rolls. I was like, yo, first of all, it's not even an egg roll. Spring roll. Thank you. You know, saying I had to correct them. They was in my inbox trying to go crazy. I'm like, yo, first of all. They was saying I mean what they say. They was saying I mean because they pushed that one's a cute. They was like, yo, baby D. Like that's how she eats spring rolls. I was like, yo, it was hot. I said, yo, I had to blow on it. I was fresh out. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to put the hot spring roll and baby D mouth like that. You're a gentleman. Yeah. Come on now. They tried to give me a lotion. I know they would tell you which, oh, that's you. That's what's up. Yeah, that's him. What's up? You're y'all fucking. I will say my request DMs, the amount of people say, yo, just between you and I, they fucking right? Yeah. This is between you and I, the DMs is hilarious. Because it's never between just you and I. And I like all of them. Yes. Leave it to it. Sure. Yes, they definitely are. They definitely are fucking. Now, I've seen at the, I'm looking at the rundown. It's all gone. But what did that disrupt any y'all laughs? Because I did see Demarice put up, I wouldn't call it a sub-sweeper say, but she was like, this is why only the only week with secure men. And I knew it had to do with the video. Did that disrupt anything in y'all laughs? Me, no. No man that I have any bit of involvement with things on any planet that I am fucking my boss. No, no one thinks that. Only people, no one thinks that. I don't have to deal with that in my tax. But it's funny to see people like trying to create that like, I knew they was, I'm like, where did you know? Did you know that? How? And this is the way we tell y'all. No, this is what pisses me off. The, oh, they fucking narrative, whatever. That's what, when niggas be like, mall playing around with Demarice serious, like Demarice so thirsty for mall, he just won't give her no play. That pisses me off. If you want to say we mutually fucking that's fine, don't try to make a scene like that. You mean consensually? What's not mutually fucking? It was a word for that. And Ryan's great. If y'all want to say that we're mutually intimate, that's whatever. But don't go and make a scene like I'm thirsty. You're like, you thirsty though? Yeah, I'm like that. I'm like, you fuck out of here. I'm like, you're a respect that. Yeah. You hungry. You're not thirsty. Yeah, but that's what I did for Valentine's Day. You thought you made it. I watched the numbers go up on that. You took a camera on bar that he just wrapped. I thought it was done. I do have a question from all. Okay. I was in an elevator and I witnessed. This one? No. I witnessed the interaction and I tried really hard to contain a gill because I'm like, if mall was here, this would be such a crazy interaction. I think about you at times like that. So I wasn't really thinking we fucking see. So what you said you think about me? If you talk about me, if you talk about me, if you talk about me. Once they hear the question, they got to say. You're going up and down thinking about mall. That's crazy. I was in an elevator, right? And there was a man in the elevator. You know, nice looking guy or whatever. And he did. He smelled really good. A young couple got in in the elevator. Young. So it's me, the cute guy in the corner and the young couple, they get in. And the girl goes, hmm. It turns to the guy and says, what are you wearing? No, she's single. I would have turned into a salon. That fucking elevator. Yeah, she's single. She say, I'd have been. You're a long beep. Yeah. And we're back. So I wanted to ask you, right? In any scenario, is that okay? Because maybe he thought that the do smell good too. And he didn't want to ask the do so he had his girl. You were in that. You want to hurt him whisper that in the elevator. You were the elevator. They want to tell you what they're going to. Okay. Let me speak for myself. Because you're asking me the question, right? Let me tell you one thing I've never done. I've never gotten in the elevator, smelled the man that thought, hmm. He smells good. Never thought that. Babe, babe. Can you see what he's wearing? Yeah. Like, what? No, you don't. What many sources do that? Because now, okay. This is what I love to do. Reverse the rolls. I get an elevator with my girl. It's a woman standing there. I'm like, damn, you smell good. What's that? Home is fucked up when we get home. House at A.S. It's going to be cold pots and ain't going to be no food. Everything. You don't want to hear your man tell a woman like, oh, you smell good. What is that? You don't want that. Right? I do not. Exactly. You know what was crazy. I think it wouldn't have been as bad if she would have said something like, hey, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to bother you. What are you wearing? Because you smell like my dad and my dad. You can't accent like, what are you wearing? That's different. You can't accent. Okay. The mm. No one. I think I know more that my girl's lying right now. I've met your dad. No one like that. No one in the mind. You can't even talk to men in public. Facts. Mala. I'm Muslim. What you want me to do? No more dope, gang. I'll hum daily life. What you want me to do? My woman can't even talk to other men. Let alone, what are you wearing? Because my dad wears that same. So you know where he wearing if your dad wears the same thing. Now you lying. Your dad smelled like morphballs first of all. I was going to go bomb. I was going to go bomb. I'm going to start there. Your father smelled like morphballs. Let's start there. Stop lying. He got morphballs in his closet. Everything he put on smell like morphballs. Let's start there. So now you lying to this man. Like no. You can't tell him no man. He smell good. Why are you with me? You crazy? No. Not my woman. No. Because again, and then this is why women is wack, worry. Because then y'all try to make it seem like I'm insecure. See, woman of paint that like, what's wrong? You can't, I can't give a man a compliment. What you, why are you acting insecure? Like, you know, our baby D was so twin. An insecure man. What you said? An insecure man. I said, an insecure man would never make it around here. Those tend to avoid me. They tend to avoid me. They call me masculine. So if a man gets mad at that, if your man gets mad at that, would that be a sign that she was crazy? No, that she was crazy. I was over there like, oh, I think that ball putting a spring roll in your mouth was fucking crazy. I don't think that's insecure. That's for content. That's for content. And that wasn't like me. It's not like you was walking past that restaurant after we left here and you saw me feeding baby D out the corny. I was like, yo, that would have been crazy. That would have been great. We were filming content. It was content. Like, that's all it was. Now, I mean, I can't help it. I was naturally have cared in that situation if it's a marathon. We're dating. But I could see a man feeling away about that and him not. Ma, you were, being labeled a woman. I mean, you care not really going to about the content. I'm scared about weird shit, not that content type of shit. But I think there'd be plenty of men that would feel away about that. And I wouldn't label them as insecure. Yeah. Like, but you mean, you're all podcasts. You're not, you're not a food, not a foodie channel. Like, that's not the content. Y'all make anyways. Yeah, but we're a content company. We create content. We create all types of content. Don't put us in a box. We're multimedia. Conscious. Okay. Yeah. This is how you would pitch it. It's a brand media. You know, y'all are good. You said the LLC. You see the LLC. The fuck? No. I mean, you just text me like, damn, I miss when you look at my eyes like that. Hey. That's what they was texting you. Hey. That's kind of good. Yeah. That's wild. I didn't even get those glasses now. Yeah, that's crazy. Just, but no, baby, yes. I would have felt the way if my woman got an elevator and smelled another man that was smelling good and then asked him like, hmm. Because she did the, hmm. She said, hmm. That means she, no, see, no. No. No. Wait, did he answer? He, so he looked at, he turned, looked at her, looked at him and then looked at the man and his face and was like, I'm wearing creed, queen of silk. And he looked at the man and the face and told the man what he was wearing. Yeah. No, we got to cast fight. That's a fight. Yeah, you got to kill him. He's because, no, because I think he was just kind of like, I'm not going to look at bitch on her face and tell what I'm wearing. I'm, I'm going to assume she's asking for you. So this is why we're airpods. I would just ignore that question. I'm not, I'm not trying to start. No, I'm going to explain. I'll explain. I don't think your, your king is comfortable with you. Queen. I don't think you're king. But that makes it worse. That makes it so much worse. Yeah, but that's what I would have said. I don't made, I don't make Jack, yeah, ride home uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable. Yeah, I don't make Jack ride home. Wow. I would hit the fight. And mind you, we was on like the 15 floor. We were all going to the lobby. So she asked, I'm like the 12 floor like, so yeah, I got mad floors. Mad. That it was just silent. That shit would have been like fucking cue and two puck in the elevator and juice. Like, yeah, silence there in each. I was like, what you going to do? What you going to do? What you going to do? What you going to do? Shoot me. Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure she meant like from an innocent standpoint, but she just was not, I don't think she was thinking she wasn't thinking. I remember I was with a girl on a date like years ago and seven years. No, this was like, this was way more than seven years ago. We was walking. We was right there by the by the garden. And we were walking. And it was like two guys sitting down. And she walked over the ones of the guys and was asking about the sneakers. She was wearing. I ain't seen her since. I kept walking. Ma. I'm dead. Yeah, I think I'm joking. The funny thing is that I think I'm joking. I'm dead, I'm joking because I know you. She started walking. I thought she knew him. She's like, yo, where you get those? Something though. Those is fire. What's her nose is fire? I see some throwing that D train so fast. Maybe she's that sneakerhead. Yeah, she could be a sneakerhead. Now she will help. Now they're the sneakerhead couple. Now they are sneakerhead couple. You always sneakerhead couples. You want to go up to some range, yo? Don't sneak as a fire. Where you get those? That's way more innocent than you smell amazing. What do you wear? No, we on a date. Because if you could smell me, you could taste me. You used both sentences together. Yeah, but if she looking at his feet, and he probably like a 15 or something. If she looking at his feet, I mean, he could be. Yeah, she looking at his feet. She think about his meat. You know how I go? Don't they say that? Ain't there what they say? Who says that? Who's that? I ain't even going to tell you how I walked in and said to me. Never mind. We ain't even going to talk about it. I walked in and said to you. You're going to say to me and pee today, yo. What's your ass pee if he ever did, yo? Oh, that's for us. That's for us. That's for us. That's for us. Netflix don't pay enough for that one. Okay, my missed. We'll have it. Yeah, you missed. I'll give it to you. I'll give you the bar. Don't worry about it. So I'll give you the bar. Wait until we wrap this up. Sure. You still here. Parano. How you saw my sub tweet if you ain't got no Twitter? Because I have the new RRM all in. He all along your timeline, too. Yeah. I'm about to get some of my views and opinions off on the new RRM all count. How's that going? They're going to know it's you. They're going to know it's working for sure. Team Z some more content. Baby, how was your Valentine's day? It was good. You had a good time. Like that tone. I don't like you. I was going to text you, but I was like, nah, you know what? I ain't going to text it to that. Not cool. It didn't go the way it was originally planned to go, but it went fine, regardless. It was cool. It didn't go the way it was planned. Were you happy? Were you smiling? I was fine. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Were you happy and were you smiling? I was fine. I got all my gifts before Valentine's Day. So I'm Valentine's, like, I peed, you know, I had been accepted packages every week, the week of Valentine's Day. But as I'm Valentine's Day came, I was the only thing I got delivered to me was like... Your heart was full? My heart was full. My heart was full. Heart was full. House was full of flowers. I was good. Okay. It's better to give than to receive. Did you do anything for anyone on Valentine's Day? I look like the type of girl. Do I look like that? Yo, first, don't be Valentine's Day. Don't be. Because last week you was asking me, like, yo, Ma, would you, would you think about this? And I was like, no, that's fine. That's cool. That's for like birthdays and shit. For Valentine's Day, I'm like a card. I'm gonna give you a nice heartfelt card. You're gonna give me a call for Valentine's Day. I ain't gonna hold you. I'm not gonna hold you. Yo, if you, if you, I'm talking about like, if we like really dating. Oh, no, that's different. But I'm like, I said, I'm single. So I don't, there's not this Valentine's Day is like draft days. I think it's the impressed me and tell me why they should continue to enter. Yeah, they look the draft was in June. Why they should make it into 2026. That's what Valentine's Day is for me. I'm single. Draft day. Draft day. I thought it was just a day just to show love and I'm peeing on Valentine's Day. Y'all win. What, what all said say? Y'all win. Yeah, I didn't know it was drafted. When did it, when did the draft start in February? It starts. It starts February 1st. I made cuts. February 15th. You know whether you made the team or not. So do we think maybe we could set up the hats on your desk and you can like tease which was picked like what city is he going to? They trade for number one. Like what city is he getting drafted to? Jesus. Anyway, I did not know it was a draft. We have special guest today in the building. Pam and Gina. Pam, Pam and Gina. That is Pam and Gina over there. Pam, you're going to be Pam and Gina today. Pam and Gina is good to see you having seen y'all in a while. It's good to see you out faces again. Thanks for the huge. Nice to meet you too. Oh, they're going to know those voices. Yeah, they know what voices in our streets. They know those. Well, my Valentine's Day was great if anyone. Yeah, I was worried. I took a, there's not an ad. It took a march to Urban Dooms, which is like a sand place in the city and the Upper East side. Okay. And yeah, we had a nice time. I got duped by a DIY cookie place. I had this whole idea to make a cookie princess castle with them. I did the next day air $40 on Monday. Yeah. That shit still is saying delivered today. Didn't deliver it. Never happened. So other than that was good though. Amara had a good time. Yeah, she did. She had no concept of Valentine's Day though. She was running around saying happy Valentine's Day to everyone. There you go. No idea what it meant. There you go. That's okay. We just shut down Urban Dooms shut it down. Had the spot to ourself. Okay. Fire. It's just because no one else was there. Q was like, you better book the appointment too. I was like, I guess you're right. It's Valentine's Day. Yeah. Nobody's there walking. No, I have an appointment. I said this appointment 48 hours ago. But no, it was a fun, fun Valentine's Day. You know, we created edible arrangements and stuff. You know, listen, just showing my daughter how to be treated. That's dope. Of course. And now you got 16 years of fucking excuses. Come Valentine's Day. What do you mean? Excuses for what? Every girl he date. Oh, you know, I'm just what my daughter for Valentine's Day. That's you fucking right. Yeah. What's wrong with that? Absolutely. To the day he died. Boo. To the day he, excuse me, Jim. You got something to say. You're good over there. Boo. Stop day in. It can't be with his daughter for Valentine's Day. You can, but you still have that many birthday. It's a love day. It's still in love. I think a father, he was with his daughter during the day. Yes, single father. Huh? You say your single father? The one I'm dating a single. Are you dating a single? You're dating? Oh, he's okay. That ain't her baby. Okay, that's right. Okay, but no, it's not okay. But no, when you say I'm following that single, it's fine. You said I'm dating a single time. That's true. Oh, okay. So he had his daughter for Valentine's Day. He had a daughter. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He had his daughter for Valentine's Day. He had her day and the day and then I was night. And you had him at night didn't you? He had him didn't you, girl? I told you he did. So that's the way he can do. Okay. I don't want to do like a Twitter topic back and forth, but I also feel like you should treat your baby mother well on Valentine's Day. You absolutely. You should. You should. If y'all want to help these babies, if your co-parenting well, yeah, no, there are people. You shouldn't show your kids daughter or son. How to treat their mother on Valentine's Day. No, not if you're not dating their mother. No, I'm not saying some romantic shit, but you should. No, no, no, no, no, because we're not going to change. We're not going to change Valentine's Day. There's a reason that there's cupid and all of this shit. Granted, people buy shit for their mother's for Valentine's Day because their mother's be single. That's why y'all be buying shit for your mother's for Valentine's Day. Because their mother's be single. When your mother's married your father handles that or her husband. Which is true. Let me tell you. Let me talk. There are now, Granted, I'm very much take care of your baby mother, so the day she died, Mother's Day, Christmas, all that shit. Valentine's Day is not a holiday that you have to do something for your baby mother. It's not. If you want to get her something from your child, like, oh, mommy, here, here's a little card, happy Valentine's Day. That's fine. But the gifts and shit like that for your baby mother, Valentine's Day, no. If I was dating a man who had a baby mother, we're not doing that. What does that year go hard for her? Her birthday year go hard for her? Christmas year go hard for her. She take care of your kid. Valentine's Day is my fucking day, bro. I feel like that's fair. No, I'm not saying block the whole day out, but you should do something nice for your child's mother for Valentine's Day. Okay. That's your opinion. I think that's even an example, whether you have a son or daughter of how they should be treated. I've got my grandmother flowers every Valentine's Day till she died. It's not always about significant other shit. It's love within your family, no? Okay. No, I cannot wait till you get a girlfriend and you explain that to her. You explain to your new girlfriend that you are doing something special for your baby mother for Valentine's Day. I mean, I'm not speaking for Rory, but if I have a baby mother, you think that on Valentine's Day, I wouldn't get my, send my baby mother some flowers. Just fly. I'm not saying we got to do dinner and all. You think I wouldn't send flowers to her house? Okay. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. That's all I'm saying about. I'm not saying some of Rory is talking about is different. No, I'm saying what Molly's saying. He doesn't say take on a date and then let's do it. You say show your child an example. What child, what example are you showing your child? If you want to make something with your child to give to their mother from both of us, I don't think that's a crazy thing to do, especially if both parties are single in your co-parenting. Okay. Now, if this hypothetical is not something to do with my situation, of course. If your child's mother is in a relationship, I would still want to respect that. If that would ruffle some feathers, then I would not do that and respect what they have going on. But yeah, if you co-parenting with somebody in a healthy way, why wouldn't you do something nice for them on Valentine's? Okay, but we weren't talking about that. We were talking about somebody who's in a relationship dating someone else. Oh, you want to add that into the equation? Then that's a conversation that I would hope you all probably had before any Valentine's they should came up. Yeah, but I don't even think that even if my big mother isn't a relationship like sending her flowers on her, we have a child together. Like I'm forever like, yeah. That's like the greatest gift ever. Like, happy Valentine's day. That's all I'm not trying to hang out and do dinner and all of that. Like just send some flowers to the crew. I think it's unnecessary, but I feel like it's fair. And again, I'm not the don't do anything for your baby mother. I always advocate. Like you need to take care of your baby mother to the date that she does. But if you think it's inappropriate, if you think it because I just feel like Valentine's day is a day, you can do shit for your mom. Sure, but I feel like Valentine's day is a day for lovers. Like that's I just have always felt like that. I'm going to love my baby mother to the day I die. That's my child's mother. Not in love. I may not be in love with her, but I'm going to love her forever giving me a child. Like what? Like nobody's coming in between that. Nope. Okay. All right. What if both the other in separate relationships who watches the kid on the 14th? I feel like yeah, probably don't try to probably organize that. Yeah, organize that. And you probably see that you're in love with an Valentine's day. So I can just send some flowers. Do you think, Rory? I don't know. Do you think? I'm not. Do my thing. I don't know. I just I don't know. I just feel like that's just I can't understand why someone dating someone doing that could feel a way about that. Because like I said, go hard for Mother's Day, go hard for Christmas, go hard for everything. But you don't Valentine's Day is my day. I'm trying to think how I can just agree. So Mother's Day I can send my child's mother. Mother's Day I want you to go hard for her. Buy her shit. Do whatever the fuck you need to do because women deserve it. But Valentine's Day. It's just a day for the person you want to learn. You should shit with it. I feel like that's fair. I don't feel like that selfish at all. Okay. All right. If you're dating a woman with kids, do you step back on Mother's Day or do you know? No. Why would you do that? No, what day we get off? I just gave you a baby boy 14. I'm getting one month. So now you get president's day off. No, because I'm here at work. I'm president's day. I got to send you that president's own president's day, right? That's actually them waiting for it. I kind of you got to send your baby mom dead presidents on president's day. We don't get a dead guy dead. I'm a dead white guy. I'm a dead man 47. I don't know. You get some Georgia Washington. But all right. So I should step back if I'm dating a woman with children on Mother's Day and let the father do that. I never said that. No. So I don't want to overstep because you're saying that the father should celebrate his baby mother. Should I step back? No. Why you can't be celebrated by more than one person? Okay. Yeah. I'm just asking if you're dating, if you're dating a mother, you should get her something for Mother's Day. I agree with you. Yeah. But that's not she's not the mother. No. All right. Cool. I just see some contradiction. There's no there's no contradiction. It's Mother's Day and then Mother's Day. Mother's Day you buy shit for all mothers that you know where that you feel important enough about. Like if it was Mother's Day, y'all would get me something for Mother's Day. Y'all didn't get me shit for Valentine's Day. Why is that? Because I'm not sure love, right? Exactly. Exactly. So don't act like you're confused about what I'm saying. Your heart was already full. I didn't. I didn't want it to spill over. I fed you spring rolls. On Valentine's Day first of all, I fed you. You gave first of all, you only gave me that bite. You didn't even give me the rest of the spring roll. Like if we really want to talk about some behind the scene shit, more gave me that bite of the spring roll and then ate the rest of the spring roll. That's even more intimate, in my opinion. It was fire. That should be it. I was one of those. I was a little bit scared. I was a little bit scared. I'm sorry, man. If I was the marriage man, that would actually be the one thing I would have problem with. Like no, it's just spring roll now. That's hers. Yeah, why am I all trying to bust it down after? I mean, you want to taste what my, you know, some life it tasted like. I did not see baby D. That's what I think that is. I'm sorry, baby, you go add to it. They go clip that and that's gonna be everywhere. Your phone will start ringing. No, your phone will start ringing. My whole zone question. I answered my fog. I got to hello, hello and hello. What happened? What? What? Yeah, I'm not negative. Don't call me with the bullshit. Yeah, I'm with all of that. You heard the man's, my whole zone question. My bad too short. I didn't know. The marriage get questioned. I ain't. I'm not the shit that's the matter. When the matter is go to the timeline and start popping up, I already know. Let me see that phone. Let me see them text messages. I'll show them to you. I think I have a question. Me and years. You lying. I know Nicky just questioned you Saturday night. No worry about. More finally, you have the most powerful iPhone of all time. It only took an entire year. And thank God, boost mobile is proving that you don't have to overpay for great wireless unlocks savings with the $25 a month for ever unlimited plan. It's a permanent price with no contracts, no price hikes. You keep your phone and your number, but you save up to $600 a year compared to the major carriers. Listen, Rory, based on average annual single-line payment of AT&T Verizon and T-Mobile. Customers compared to 12 months on the boost mobile unlimited plan as of January 20, 26. All for details visit boostmobile.com. I got you a get back moment for LaRussell because LaRussell had some things to say in regards to your comments about DoChi a few months ago. So I'm giving the floor to you, Rory, because LaRussell, I know you want this ISO. No, no, no, no, no, I'm just saying LaRussell who we've supported. My God. That's my God. Since Hoveane was working with the rest in peace to my dear friend, Oveane, the guy that we have always, always supported. Absolutely. Yeah, there was once upon a time when I was being killed by the internet the first time. I think I was a little rougher. I would have understood if LaRussell chombed it on the second one. That one, man. When I was getting killed for out of context, AKAPG clipping something up, comments about DoChi being on stage with Lauren Hill. LaRussell who I thought was a friend who I thought was an ally. You thought LaRussell was an ally? I have been nothing but supported. We tried to fly to his backyard in 2020. Years ago. In COVID. Now he had tweeted in out of context clip, DoChi is one of the greats. You know, I can't read that to Marys. I'll read it for you. It's that. Look at that fine print. I got you. That Jake. That Jake Coles. Who's Dread was that? Did that go up on the street? Can we keep on happily? That was Jake Coles Dread. Why you still got Jake Coles Dread? No, it's for only two, though. I'm still doing voodoo. Yeah, it was for only two. It's not funny. LaRussell tweeted, DoChi is one of the greats. In fact, it's never too early to recognize greatness. There's no such thing as premature flower given. She's great in doing great things. She's not just tight. She gets it. She not just tight. She gets it. Okay. She putting something new in the pie. She loves the art. She'd be smiling and enjoying her journey. Get off her dick. Into that you say, Rory. Get off Wayne Ditt, bro. Sorry. But Russell, I love you. I really didn't take this offensive at all. But I did think it was kind of nuts of the pile on of you. You know my, how I've even spoken about your music. This was out of context. I've been a DoChi fan forever champion her for quite some time. We were talking about a separate topic with Lauren Hill. And then I got, I don't know, angled into this position that I was a DoChi A or colder industry plant. I never did. And then you adding on to it. Well, welcome, buddy. This is what happens when you comment on hip hop and you think things get taken out of context. Come on over and sit right next to me. Russell, you're more than welcome. You know, Wayne's dick. You're more than welcome to come up here and talk about this shit that you said about Wayne. What exactly, what exactly did he say? And I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm really just joking around. He was on a podcast and Wayne was brought up and he was talking about how much Wayne was one of his favorite rappers till he got a little older and started listening more to Wayne's lyrics and realized like he really wasn't saying a lot of shit. There wasn't a lot of substance in which is what Wayne has, Wayne has said that about his own music in his bars. So I thought that was a fair point for any fan to give even if I disagree with it because I do think Wayne does have a lot of substance in his music. But the amount of music he put out, I could see the percentage balance being different of non substance versus substance, but Wayne has substance. But I understand what LaRussel saying like when I went back and listened to Marshall Mathers LP, is there substance on there? Sure. But I grew a lot of my M&M love like this is just not for me when I get older. I don't think what he said was fucking nuts. Now as someone that has also handled backlash very poorly. Sometimes don't walk down a hill and explain yourself. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. The Rossal we love you up here. Sometimes you didn't say anything really that nuts and I don't think there's a campaign behind getting you out of the paint while that does exist and it's happened to all of us. Everyone in this room actually, I can say for a fact there's been money of trying to get us out the paint. But sometimes when all the blogs post at the same time with the same narrative, it's because they're lazy. It's not because somebody's paying them. Yeah. Two things can be true. A lot of times they just need content for the day. They're on a 24 hour new cycle and if they see one outlet posted, it's just going to be a waterfall of the same shit because they see you're getting traction on this. Sometimes nobody's paying. Sometimes that you're just headlined for the day. But I feel I know what it's like to feel like somebody has to be behind the scenes doing the shit. Somebody did this. Somebody did this. Somebody did this. When you wake up boy, your phone going off and all types of blogs is clippin' something you said and then now you're an artist yourself. You start feeling like, man, they taking what I said out of context. I didn't mean it like that. As somebody who has been taking out of context plenty of times, let me just say the best thing to do sometimes is just shut the fuck up. Don't explain yourself. No matter how much, that's like if you go outside, Rory and you went some waxing, the homie starts snapping on you, you can't go up this and change. Yeah, don't, don't change. Don't go upstairs and go in Twitter spaces. Yeah, you can't do that. You got to just be like, you know what, I got to just sit through this. You know, it's like, you know, you're going to be over to blow over in a minute, but you can't try to like explain and then post videos about, you know, this being with the internet does and they clip things and they get behind it and they push it narrative. Yes, that does happen, but a lot of other times it just, no, you said something that people felt was a little, you know, like, oh, that's a little, a little, you know, rough to say about Wayne, but no one thing that I didn't understand why people were coming across was because Wayne has said that out his own mouth. Yeah. I don't really be, you know what I'm saying? It was like, yo, even a clip that, who, who used that clip from when he was like, nigga, somebody, I need a subject, I need a predicate. He said, what did you do? Nigga just going to studio with clips, like it just like basically nigga, fuck all that subject. What I'm talking about, just get bars, get a beat and just bar shit down. Like Wayne has said that out his own mouth. So I don't know why people were killing the Russell for just kind of picking up on that and listening to the music. Because I think there's a lot of Wayne fans out there that actually think that Wayne has a lot of substance and hearing that from somebody and this is also why I like artists getting into the podcast game because y'all fucking killed us for ever having an opinion. You guys do the same thing and they tear apart every last word you've ever done. They pulled up every bad, the Russell lyric of all time. The Russell has probably done that in his head with podcasters that have said negative things about him, like, or Doji. See how that works? It's just funny now when you're on this side. Yeah. I'm like, no, this isn't really what I said. Like not fucking Wayne. Yeah. See what you were trying to say, Wayne's a goat. I understand. La Russell, see what happens soon. See what happens soon as you leave the Pagola. This is what happens as soon as you leave the crib, La Russell, nigga, this is all your ass. You walking downhill for six minutes. Yeah. I know you getting your cardio in, nigga, but you're going to get these bars too. And the backlash, the content, I mean, the context that you provide never gets goes viral the way that they're going to close the viral context of no, I actually love drinking sexy songs for you. Never goes viral the way to no disrespect. They don't care about love. They don't talk about that. They would never pull up all the clips from me from 2017 saying, yo, Doji's the one. I don't want to hear that. Oh, negative. Let's talk negative about each other. Fuck that rapper. Like that's going to go viral. Fucking fuck her. It was clippin. She's a plant. It was clippin the end of an amazing La Russell LA leakers freestyle. Just the end when he said some like, I'm a dog. Like he was, you could tell he was missed every day. And his freestyle just, yeah, just throw away, ball. Forget the three minutes that was before that means nothing. It means this is who you are. Nothing in the context. They were coming back. Si, hi, fucking lyrics over the weekend too. Which is like what about side? What about the great lyricist's period? What they were saying about side? Side has some terrible lyric that they clipped. But because he was coming out of it. How much digging you had to do to find a bad side high lyric like a bar? What the fuck was that bar? Peas, you know what it was? It was bad. Oh, Niggas was digging. That was like, nah, but if little, they was like a big show and big shot rap that y'all would kill him. I was fucking crazy. It was very funny. Now, you know what's going to happen as a result of this? What? La Russell and Wayne will have a song about the end of the week. Probably. That's the type of guy Wayne is. Wayne is like, you're listening man. Let's just get some shit like, you know what I'm saying? Whatever you want to, you want substance we'll be rapping about. And then he going out, out rap La Russell on a beat. You know how that go? All right. Well, let's get to his actual comments. Because I know you're a Wayne hater. And Demarice and I love him. I'm a Wayne hater. Do you see? I paint the narrative white boy. No, this isn't anything that's a narrative that I have to paint. This is a Mona Lisa of rap opinions when it comes to you. Okay. Like. I think I'm going to be a singer touching on the ceiling. You, you are a Wayne hater. No, how am I a Wayne hater? So, do you agree with what he said? I don't think we should kill La Russell for what he said. I think he's entitled to any opinion he has on rap. And there's definitely been times where I feel like Wayne's not saying a fucking thing. But I think it's unfair. And sometimes you just be talking. I can attest to that 10 years of doing the shit. Sometimes you just be saying shit and then you get off the mic and go, damn now I think about it. I actually don't think that way. So I'm not putting this against La Russell at all. But it is kind of wild to say that Wayne has no substance. And that's fucking nuts. Well, no, because Wayne has real songs where obviously he's talking about shit. I'm thinking what La Russell was saying is like you said, the volume of Wayne's songs and Wayne verses. Maybe he, that's what he's, you know, more so talking to like out of his output, like a lot of it lacks substance. A lot of it is just bars. It's just Wayne rapping. Like each of pussy like cold pizza, you know, he's the, he's the, he's the Gucci monster. You know, I get this. That's okay. But if you get into the substance of that, Wayne was probably one of the first rappers to admit, eat and pussy was cool. Because a lot of rappers used to lie. They would never do that. They was on Jamaican time. We should go lie and say we don't eat pussy. Wayne was the first one to start doing R&B ballads as a rapper of saying all I do is he pussy and that brought a whole new wave. No, I think we got to probably go to LL for that. LL just did it in a more slick away. He didn't say pussy. Okay. He said, pin cookies in a plastic bag in fresh body buildings. Shit like that, you know, it's something. It was just a little, there was a different way of saying shit is all I'm saying. Wayne was probably the worst that was just as raw. But then you got to go to Uncle Luke in them. If you want to talk about just raw lyrics, eat and put it, you got to go to Uncle Luke. Yeah, but Wayne was talking about eating pussy in like almost a romantic way. Uncle Luke and them was just running through these holes. Oh, yeah, well, that was a different time back then. Wayne made it like in the late 80s early. He was singing about eating like superheads pussy in like this is my wife, that way. Which I think ushered in a whole new era. Now I do get what LaRussell was saying as far as some of the lyrics Wayne had were not the best for the community. But I mean, once you open that door, where did we draw the line we wrappers? Like yes, did Wayne maybe make being a blood trendy to suburban kids? Cool. But if you became a blood because Lil Wayne became one, you were going to fall for anything like you to go. So I don't really know if that ruined the community. Because those people that wanted to become blood because of Lil Wayne would have fallen for fending off or anything on earth they would have fallen for. Absolutely. So I hear him, but as opposed to what rapper? As far as negative shit goes. Fucking LaRussell man, just come on, come up here man and we can just talk about Wayne. Let me and Russell, LaRussell just talk about Wayne for about 45 minutes. Let's just have a Wayne conversation, me and LaRussell. So I think we kind of like hear the same things a little bit. Well, you have one on our Patreon, they kind of, they eat you up about your Wayne versus Ross tape. No, we're going to settle it. Because I said, Ross has better albums. He makes better changes. You change that goal. That goal. For slash new Roy and ball go check out that conversation. I didn't say the conversation mid episode because we said catalog. And it was like that's albums now. Yeah, but you like to, you like to pull in mixed tapes like and Ross has crazy mixed tapes too. So we are one to seem like the highlight of the dip set in locks versus was kiss doing a mixtape freestyle. Did I not say Ross makes better music? Exactly. Exactly. You think he has more substance? I mean, yes. Yes, I do. No, I do. I feel that way. No, Ross has substance. I'm not. I'm never say Ross. Wayne does. But I think Ross has more. More food groups. Maybe it's still something. How do you want to slice that? If I'm at towel, like yeah, there's a lot of how you want to slice it from that ocean prime. Yes, but my my my feeling was Ross has better music. He makes better music than when and I do feel like that. Not saying Wayne doesn't make good music. I'm saying Ross to me to me. We're going to settle it on the Patreon. This week, me makes better music than Wayne. I cannot wait because we I feel like COVID kind of owes us one. When we did the Fad mixtape Wayne mixtape battle on IG live. No, we don't shut the streets down again. You're going to do Ross away. All right, well, let's do it. I hate the internet because this is the this is the bar. You were talking about the Marist. Yeah, I always love this side. Boy, so I said I always love this bar. I met this girl in Valentine's Day. Fucked in May. She found out about April. So she chose the March and how he delivered it was fire. Yeah, like see that's when she chose the bar. They don't know the cadence. They don't know the beat. We know they dropped the beat right at chose the March. Like, yeah, this bar worked. Yes, bar. Why not doing that to saw how? We're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. I get in that piff post of that. What they trying to say. Hey, so I don't send them niggas no more your music, man. That's it. I guess it's maybe trash. Because like he just has this time is a construct designed by a certain community. But I guess maybe because he was gallant and he met her Valentine's Day, waited till May. That's a gentleman. What did she find out about in April though? Because that would be she found out about April. She found out about April April the girl. Yeah. That's the hardest bar of all time. I love it. That's just that. Maybe one of the other. Yeah, some some people that's what it does. It goes overheads and then they say you whack because they didn't get it. This is going to be a rough episode. I stand with LaRusso. I love you, LaRusso. I have to preface this entire thing because I'm about to stand with Vlad as well. I never stand with Chudo. Of course not. In order I give a fuck. Yeah, was the internet. Where do we even begin on this one? I already knew that I should have gotten off Twitter to begin with. But this was just a reassurance that this is the internet is just not a place for me anymore. I knew everybody was the R word on them. But this is like a new level of that entire thing. Like reputable like not news outlets but people that are respected on the internet that cover news covered this as if this was real. Yeah. Vlad had tweeted out, I have a confession. Rock Nation has been paying me to support Megan. They also paid off the jury members to convictory. And then they bribe the judge to Jay-Z did a verse for his grandson's new album. They paid off Megan's doctor to lie about the bullet fragments when she was never shot. The LA PD are all on Jay's payroll and it doesn't stop with LA. You're not ready to hear that part. Can you make this a little bit bigger? Demarisk as I cannot read. Small print like that. The Mexican guy who stabbed Tory, who do you think paid him to do that? If you guys look, he had the same last name as Desiree Perez but they were completely different ethnicities. So it was definitely her cousin. But you already know the answer to that, the three Supreme Court judges who denied Tory's appeal all paid off by rock mafia. Jay-Z also paid Trump not to pardon Tory even though it's a state case. Trump can only pardon federal cases but we know Trump. He gets a little dicey and weird. Yeah. He likes to bend the rules. Yeah. So Hull was going to take chances on that because Hull was definitely waking up every day thinking about Tory fucking lanes. I can't keep these lies a secret anymore. If this is my last tweet, you know who silenced me. Sean Carter. I thought this was a hilarious tweet. I've lied because we've kind of echoed a lot of this too with the Tory situation. I've said that Army generals should study what Tory's PR team has done to convince the world that he is innocent. It has been a master class in PR that there is a huge part of the internet that like fully, fully believes that. Everything blad said I thought was fucking hilarious and I thought maybe we'd put things in a context of why a lot of us do think Tory lanes is guilty because these steps, not to say there's not corruption in the judicial system. But the steps that would have to go through that I can promise you, hove and des don't care this much is absolutely insane to think about. Now the internet took that as Vlad giving a confession, they treated this like the Epstein files, which Jay Z is in and is the number one culprit. Everyone knows that Epstein and Jay best friends. There was legitimate think pieces from people that are on the news that this was a legitimate tweet. We're in a literacy crisis. I know this is a very minuscule thing, but it is a perfect metaphor of how the internet is really ruining the entire world. I just think that is. How do you interpret? How did AI put a community note of sarcasm? How can AI pick up on sarcasm before a human being? Because people don't want to pick up on sarcasm. People are just looking for their thoughts and the things that they think about people to be true. They're looking for validation of their thoughts and their ideas. So when they see the first sign of that instead of really thinking, it's like, ah, I knew it. I told you, same shit I've been saying is, no, nobody is, that's not what it is. You know, people don't understand satiety and don't understand sarcasm. They don't understand what somebody is basically putting a mirror in front of you to show you how stupid you look and sound. And that's what Vlad did with this tweet. I mean, he was just showing people. He did it perfect way. Right. He was showing people just how silly some of your ideas are and how outlandish some of the things that you people believe really are. And I thought that was a cool way to kind of get the internet going and to just expose the people that, like you said, really don't understand, don't comprehend what's happening, don't understand tone, don't understand, again, satire and things like that. I thought that was a dope way to do it. And of course, I looked at all the comments just because I'm curious. And the amount of people that we're trying to tell the barbs, what story lanes is, high up cold? No idea. Okay. No idea. I don't even think they have one. Yeah. What the lanes is. All of them were everyone trying to explain to them that this was sarcasm and their reply to everything was, well, two things can be true. And I think Vlad is really trying to tell us something. Oh, no, no matter what. Don't get it twisted. No, they thought we were stupid. Yeah. No matter what. They were like, no, you realize Vlad is really trying to tell you something. He's disguising it. Yeah. It's sarcasm because this is actually true. Yeah. I just think that it's just funny that people to see people in those comments and really like, you know, believing that and then thinking that, you know, finally, you know, we're the things we've been saying are valid. And we knew that Jay-Z was just God. I was paying all of these people and he's a creep and we knew that rock nation would crumble. And this doesn't, this is like, can we just like just a little bit? Can we just use a little comment? We can, you can have your own ideas. You can think what you want to think about people. Just sprinkle in a little bit of common sense. And listen, I'm with you all with Kelsey's bodyguard that wasn't there coming to the stand. Because that's where that came from. First of all, that's an old clip and then that's the funniest part. That clip is old. That old Vlad said something about it, telling people like it's old and he wasn't even. There was like his bodyguard that wasn't bodyguard in her at the time. And that's when they started saying like, oh, rock nation is paying you. And that's where this tweet came from. And it really is scary to know that you are on a platform with people who think like that. And then, and then you wonder why, you know, you know, again, what LaRussel said, even that is kind of in this too. It's like, you know what LaRussel may have been saying. He wasn't trying to throw shade at Wayne. They missed the whole part where he was praising Wayne and saying Wayne is dope and wanted to great as rappers ever. They missed all of that. But this is what this is essentially what social media is. It's people that just want to find and clip whatever it is that may give validity to their narratives that they create. And that's what this is. It's like no matter what, like you said, or even though now everybody knows that Vlad was just, you know, making people look stupid, two things can be true. Vlad is just saying that because now they're going to say, Jay Cole Vlad and made him say that he was just joking. He didn't turn to that. Oh, no, he wasn't joking. They rock nation reached out to him and they threatened him and they stand the third. People think Jay is so involved in writing. I don't know. That nigga is over there being a stay at home dad to three saying people will get you too much credit. They get way too much. Definitely buy it. Not saying Jay. He doesn't have power and doesn't have any. He doesn't deserve. Yeah, it's just like come on, man. Like it's not what you people think it is. It's really not. All the things are just exactly what they are. There's no conspiracy behind a lot of things. There is conspiracy is real. But a lot of the times it's not a part of which I think it is. Do we want to get into all star weekend? We can. Yeah, let's do it. The new format. Cool, I guess, whatever. Give it to the Dunk contest. You know, bring it to YouTube. Bring the Dunk contest to YouTube. Yeah, YouTube Dunkers. Come on. Let's get to it. Oh, YouTube Dunkers. Let's get to it. Okay, make a comparison over a spends a spends a spends a spends a spends a spends a spends player just for one week. Do that again. Yeah. I we're here for entertainment. I don't need to see it's, but it's been tret. It's been trending this way for a few years though with all star Saturday, the three point contest. Three point contests have become the highlight of all star Saturday. People don't even care about the dunk contest. I mean, I don't all star. But this this year, even the three point contest was a little bit lacklid just the energy around the NBA all star weekend is slowly be tapering and fading into the lane of the pro bowl of the NFL pro bowl. I don't know. Anybody that's ever said, y'all I'm going to see as the pro bowl is on. I've never heard that. I've never heard anybody say the guy to go watch the pro bowl. I used to like the their version of skills challenges. Like the pro bowl, when they would do a quarterbacks throwing how far they could throw the ball receivers would catch like there used to be fun skills day. She was a pro bowl. But nobody's trying to watch that nobody was the pro bowl. And they even tried to put it at was it the week before the Super Bowl. And then they moved it to the end. Some more players could be and it's still tanked. But that that's different because that's such a physical sport. Like I'm not about to just go outside for play play with football. Because we saw what like Sean Taylor did to a punter that was just trying. He's playing around. He was about to pun. He's like, no, it's a fake. And then Sean Taylor came in at a four to four to 40 speed. Yeah, the same thing took his fucking head off. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't know if that's the same way. But I don't I could do it out all star weekend now, which is very sad to say. It is, man. I think the NBA got to find something. I'm not the format of the actual star game. Wasn't too mad at it. I wasn't out of that a different team world versus team USA and the team USA being split into the veterans and then a lot of the younger guys as an American though. Wasn't mad at that. Did you feel a little out? As an American? No, I felt proud. I cried. No, I'm glad that stars and stripes were in the finals. But yeah, this is getting this is going to lower. The fact that we even can have this many international players that there's squad. Nobody's a little mad that the whites are infiltrating the way they are. I'm the only one. Yeah, we sent the whites back and they'll get them to fuck out of here. Sit you out right back to the light. Luke, you know, get your all the out. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. No, women, Yana was was punting fucking basketball. When we, when we is clearly trying to try to make a claim to be the best player in the league once, you know, that international squad. Look, I'm actually, look, I cannot believe that. And if you say Luke was didn't play much, you know, gets didn't play much. You know, yeah, Yana's didn't play at all. Like so you know, the their their guys were not really playing. But I'm the format for you put that five and they really play. I think the international team is winning. Luke and on guard, man. Luke don't play no defense. Look who you have next to him. He doesn't need to play defense. You know, guard nobody, man. Great game. Love his game. But he don't guard nobody. I'm always going to take team the best in team USA with a healthy stuff. Curry. LeBron, Jalen Brown, Kauai, you know, give me those guys and I'm cool. Team world are good. But I just don't I just think it's different what the hell that's a serious game that I think that goes a different way. I like the format though. I wasn't mad at the format. But all star Saturday, they need to do something with the skills challenge with three point contest. The dunk contest can go. Let's just be honest, which is great because that's the that was the job. That's the main event. It used to be people used to say, you know, the skills challenge and even the three point contest can go. I've seen some people wanting to bring them one one on one. The girls did it. Yeah, I heard looking pussy. The women did one on one is different for the guys. I'm going to tell you why because Nellie go. Well, yes. But if I'm a signature shoe athlete, if I'm a Nike athlete, I have my signature shoe and I enter the one on one contest and I get smoked. That looks bad for the brand. Like that looks bad. And nobody's been curry. If curry wants to be in the one on one contest every year, nobody's making curry tough. Like let's just put that out there. He would win every year. But I think that would be a good match up with him. I would take curry, but I think they would be a good match up. Nobody's being curry one on one, bro. He has the best handle. I've ever seen nobody's car. Yeah. So I just think that brands, I think Nike would be apprehensive. Now, if you put guys in that don't have a signature shoe and say the winner gets a signature shoe from Nike or a deed or so, I think that makes it interesting. Do you think that's why superstar's haven't been in the dunk contest the way they were with when Jordan wasn't it or Vince Carter was in it? Because now if should Kobe, recipes or brawn like now year, if you don't show out the way events or Mike did, does that kind of deflate the brand a little bit? Not the brunt man really came from the dunk contest. Yeah, but I think the dunk contest, I think a lot of guys that stage of being out there all starts out at night by yourself and trying to be creative and it's a lot of pressure. I think a lot of guys shy away from that. They don't want that big of a stage for themselves. I think that that can be, it's like now I gotta think of some shit to do that they haven't seen. We've had how many dunk out 40 something dunk contest maybe. And now I'm trying to think of a cool way to do something that they haven't seen. It's a lot of pressure on an athlete. It's a different era. I would even give brawn a lot of grace in that regard. This era of dunk contest, I've never even looked at LeBron like that type of dunker where it's gotten. When Vince was doing the shit, I would feel like brawn would have to be there if he was in that era. But yeah, now the shit is, you have to be so creative outside of this dunk contest. They literally just dunked the ball. But I hear you, I don't think superstars in this era need to do the shit. Maybe that's the problem. I think that stage, that stage of being out there alone is a lot for a lot of players and they don't want that pressure on them to go out there and entertain. I rather plan the game. Three point contest a little different. I just had a shoot. It's not much creativity in just shooting through. I think if the superstars sponsored some of the YouTube dunkers, the way Tracey McGregor was throwing all the loops to Vince Carter. If brawn finds his favorite YouTube dunker and he's the one throwing the all the loops, he's involved on the court with him. I think that brings in the element of creative dunks and you still get the all stars that are out there. Yeah, they got to find something that could be kind of cool. I think it's over for the dunk contest. I think we get it out of here. Let a few years go by, you know, find something else to kind of, you know, implement in that spot. But I'm cool. I don't need to see another dunk contest. I'm cool. That's fair. Yeah. I'm not mad at that. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet, which Maul, I don't even need to tell you as Florida sports book, you knew that already. I know it's tough. There's no more football. The big game has passed. But like Maya Angelou says, still we will rise with Hard Rock Bet. She did not say that part, but there's always something to bet on every night, whether it's basketball hockey, so much more. Plus all the great same play, Parley live betting and player prop options that you are used to more. Plus Hard Rock Bet offers new promos daily. So whenever you're listening, just open the app and check out what you've got any day of the week, download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit. 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Before we get to what you said off mic that we were to bring fire's icon incredible, incredible album and cry. I have not stopped listening to it. It's all I listen to all weekend. I love the fact that it was only 35 minutes. I like that. He not trying to give him sex, he out loud for how I went 47 minutes. He ain't doing it. They not playing that game. I'm a guillotine. He's 10 joints and I'm getting out of that. I'm getting out of that. This is incredible. I saw the marathon, the group text on my hand. When Rory said, I don't know what the internet. What was the internet saying about that? Outside of what happened with Vlad and me finding out the internet is the R word. When I went and listened to that Brent album after I watched Twitter, maybe I need to change my algorithms because the way they were talking about this Brent album, I was like, damn, I'm not, damn, I got in deliver. I'm about to step out there and say it may be the best Brent album period. Wait, they saying he didn't deliver on this one? So a lot of people were disappointed. That album is so fucking good. I'm so much too good. A lot of people were disappointed and I can understand why they were disappointed. And it's because Brent is known for a particular niche in his music and that niche is toxicity, hardcore toxicity. This album did not have the hardcore Brent toxicity that they're used to. Well, sometimes you need to reflect and realize that you're looking for love and all the wrong faces. No, that's what's up. But the narrative that I did see a lot of people say is that, you know, you do have to have a niche or a gimmick when you're not that vocally talented. Brent is not a song. What's the male version of songstress? But he's not. He doesn't have strong vocals. So it's like you're known for this and then you switch. So you're now singing a lot of these niggas and you got strong vocals that niggas think got strong vocals. Yeah, very true. I'm talking about the music. It's the music. They get the music. Okay. And see, this is why you could never please fans and that's hypocritical coming from us because we're very critical of artists. But everyone says Brent is a one trick pony. Switches up the production and carries it with his vocals. I agree with you. But I don't even think Brent would say he's the strongest vocalist. He's a vibe and a lyricist. He's a he's what they call a crooner. He's a crooner. Who else is a crooner? Give me another example. A crooner. Tracellans. Tracellans. He will be considered a crooner. He will be considered a crooner. It's a few crooners. Our Kelly is a crooner. No, our Kelly is a no, no, no, no, no, no, we've had this argument before. I'll Kelly can sing. We not doing that. We're not going to go back to that. We're not doing that. Our Kelly is not a crooner. He's a nasty son of a bitch. 100%. He can sing his ass. So that's one of the better vocalists. Yeah, that's one of the singing ass. Nasty ass. Me the fuck right there. It's a show. Yeah. But I think Brent switched up. What people were kind of criticizing him about when it came to production. Like, though, so it's a lot of the same shit. You just leave it a bunch of space. It's eerie and weird. Like that's why I asked you in the group chat. Is it too human nature for you? This album is incredible. I was listening to one song and I was like, oh, this is giving Michael. There's a few that have that. I mean, Rafael Sedip was definitely on. He gave us some frank on their two, though, pose. He got it to his Frank. Now say what you was going to say. Say what you was going to say. I just want to before we get to that, I just want to highlight how amazing this Brent album is. I don't want to start there. I don't know which I'll listen to, which I thought I'll listen to or which I will expect and listen to when I'm dropped. This Brent album is incredible. This is incredible. I was I'm on the side where this might be his best project. Okay. I'm on that. Not ready to say it yet, but it crossed my mind. I'm saying it. On the third say what are this? I'll even say it's February, but the standout is going to be rough a rough year for the R&B album of the year. If Brent is starting the year out this way. Really. I think are you like a Brent fan, though? I like Brent because I don't understand. If you don't know, but I think Brent's talented at what he does. I can see why he's not really crazy. This album is crazy. Certain people's cup of tea. Like I get that. If you're not a Brent fan, I'm not here to convince you to be one. I'm saying if you are a Brent fan, how do you feel about it? The standard, the standouts to me were four seasons strangers. Those are the standouts to me. What have two butterflies? What are you? Are you not listening to the music? Are you? Get into the music, baby. D have two butterflies. Other side. Let's say other side is crazy. Four seasons. This album is crazy. I don't know which I wanted. I love the sense, the 80s sense that he got on here. I love the ready for the world type of vibe he given us. See, if you ain't never had a bad bitch top of us in the convertible, you wouldn't understand this vibe. This ain't for you. Go somewhere else. Everything ain't for everybody. This is what this is. This is for niggas that got bad bitches. If you ain't got no bad bitches, I expect you to not like this. Go listen to them other niggas that ain't got no bad bitches. This is for the bad bitches having this ass niggas. This is what this is. If you're searching for bad bitches, I still feel like it's for you. Yeah. All the bad bitches. Maybe you like this album. We not doing that. I'm going to listen to it again. I didn't say that I dislike it. No, it's not my favorite Brent project, but I'm not going to say that I dislike it. I have to listen to it again. I've only heard it once. I have to digest it. Only once. I've only heard it once. I played it today when I was doing my makeup. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, baby, D. Okay. You got to you got to get into the music. Okay. You got to let it play. I don't know. You got to put the crock pot on. You got to put this album on. This is not crock pop music. Shit. This is not crock pop music. You put it on. Okay. Now, if if somebody got a line for me, this is cocaine music. This ain't crock pop music. It is, but you ain't always got me doing coke. You could just be chilling. You could just be in the house drinking wine. And West I gun has cooked a brick and the crock pop for you. You got to put that, you got to leave that bitch on low. Like, yeah. Okay. Holy now. I'm going to give it another try. No, it's how I'm crazy. This album, this might be Brent's best album. I'm ready to say this is the best album. My only thing is while I do love that it's short, I think we could have let the music just vibe a little bit more. He could have gave us 44 minutes, 10 more minutes. Okay. He could have gave us 10 more minutes. But I'm not this album. Incredible. Man. I mean, kind of cry. He did. I don't want to jump out of the window. Like, and that's what you get at. This album, no, I like it. Perfect. As it is, the shit is flawless. This album is so fucking good. This album is fucking crazy. To me, to me, I'm keeping real. I can't believe he made this album. That's our good dish. All right. Let's have the conversation. I cannot believe that Brent. That's a perfect, I didn't know he was this good. Yo, this nigga, yo, he went to a whole another, listen, he tapped into a whole another thing with this album. This shit is crazy. The attention to detail, the fucking, the content, the substance. Larusso, how do you feel about this? The substance is there. You should have turned blood. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck do y'all, y'all on internet saying that this album is trash? I've seen love for it and I've seen hate for it. And I've listened to this. No rent. Ladies, did you hear Pam and Gina? Did you hear that? Which I'll be listening to. I like Jake. Oh, who the fuck is about with Jake? Cold things. Brows out. Who cares with Jake? Oh, bitch. I listened to bread by him. I had a chance, yeah, but you have me sold. Listen to this. Listen to this album. I just have a question. What's up? Because you don't got no bitches. So I'm trying to. I ain't gonna. She said, no, there's no bitches. I'm just saying. That's what he says on on on the mic. I don't know. As a listen. All right. I'm not listening. I don't have women that I'm having sex with. I have beautiful, female friends. And anytime that I hang out, you do this and hit every syllable. You lie. No, I'm trying to give. I make sure that you I make sure y'all see the one I'm giving you. You're picking up what I'm putting down. The standout chart. Oh no, standout track is funny. I don't know. It would be four seasons. That's the one that R&B now has for Apple music. It would be four seasons. Oh, I mean, we're racing now. Get the Kav2 butterflies. Uh, uh, uh, uh, what's the track? What is this? What is this? What is this? Shit. I switched it to Jill Scott because I thought y'all were telling. Really, for we're going to get Jillie to fill. We're going to get to Jillian Philly, but hold on. Yeah. Uh, have to butterflies. Other side. Strangers. World. It's only 10 tracks. So it's real quick. Yeah. He track is a standout track. He's going to get in and get out. He ain't going to play around. He getting right to it. As soon as he said, take me from the top. Is it good fucking music? I don't I don't care what you do to this shit. Just play to some other fucking this nigga. This song. This album is incredible. I don't yell. Listen. Do not listen to anybody. Anybody that says this album is trash, unfollow them, block them, stop. Because they just on a whole different frequency that you don't need to be a part of. Yeah, I ain't never seen you like somebody. There's more. I agree with everything more. I think you have stronger than he thinks about the shit. That way everything. He don't. No, she will. Everything. I promise you. Listen. I just tore down your man's second disc last week. Yeah. No, my man. Listen. Don't do that. We're not going to do that. We don't do that. I mean, this album is so good. I was playing it, cleaning the crib, ginset together, but it's also only 34, 35 minutes. Took that shit back. No, so what happened was when it ended, it went into like another R&B, you know, when you playing R&B, it'd go into nothing. I'm like, the whole vibe was different. I was like, why are you putting this in on it? Then I went in my phone, I was like, I just ain't even the album, it's over. So I went back and I'm like, yo, he just gave us those 10 songs like that and got out of there? 12 for you. It's 12 songs? Yes. Oh, well, what happened? I went to the director's cut. I don't know if you did. Yeah. This album, yo, shout out the branch, shout out to the team who ever worked on this project. Y'all niggas went in there and did what the fuck y'all were supposed to do. Y'all went in there? Y'all put them, y'all put that shit together and y'all got out of there. We not gonna play around and give y'all all of these bells and whistles unless you know, go after radio, what fuck that shit? We gonna get y'all 12 tracks, fire. And we gonna let y'all get back to whatever y'all say. And then go back to cold. Then you can go back to cold and fall over. Just get back into that. But listen to that icon out. That shit is incredible. As a Brent fan, I still had Brent in one category. I like larger than life a lot. Loved that project. He tried to get out of what the stereotypical Brent sound was. But still, I still put Brent over here. This album to me puts Brent in a different conversation with Army artists. Yo, listen man, I'm here for baby. I love Frank Ocean too. I love Frank Ocean too. And this is where things are gonna get me. I love Frank Ocean too. But if Frank decide he don't never want to give us nothing else, as long as Brent keep doing this, we gonna be all right. We gonna be all right. Just strong thing to say. We gonna put Brent on the Coachella stage. Let him come out there, put that nigga in the old Cadillac with four bad bitches. Drop that motherfucker through the desert. Let Brent do what the fuck he do. This nigga's a vibe. I'm fucking with Brent. You don't think Frank will put four bad dudes in the actor? And that ain't my algorithm. That's what I'm saying. That ain't just not my algorithm. You don't think Frank could pull him? I'm just saying that just ain't my algorithm. I'm not saying that. Four fellas. If that's your algorithm, that's your algorithm. That's not mine. That's what I'm saying. Four fours gums in the back. I'm fucking with this baby. Dude, you gotta get, what shoes? It was Valentine. I get a use on a different vibe. I was on a different, maybe I gotta know maybe I gotta hear it again. I'm gonna go, all right. I'm calling you out on the mic. Are you gonna say what you said off mic on the microphone right now? What did I say on the mic? Me? Yeah you. What did I say? He said it. No, he said if Frank never puts a project out, we gonna be all right. That's not what he said off the mic. What did I say? You said Brent has surpassed Frank Ocean. Yes. Yes, I feel like that. I feel like that. Frank is giving us great songs, great albums. But we don't know what he owned. We don't know if he's gonna show up. We don't know if he's gonna put a project out. But that doesn't take away what he has done. No, I'm not taking nothing away from Frank Ocean. Incredible artists. I'm just saying, when you start playing these Brent albums, I can't put him in a different category for me. I don't think it has been consistent. I don't think it's the same take, but it's, I get it. The volume is different. The amount of projects between Sonder and Brent is surpassed Frank, but how many artists have a blonde? How many artists have a channel ordering? How many artists have a nostalgia? I get it. I get it. Like those three projects are so fucking low. I get all of that. What is cocaine? That's what I'm just saying. I'm just saying that's Frank. No, that's James and no idea. What was the one with Frank? The mixed tape. Nistalgia Ultra. Yeah, that's shit. Incredible. Incredible, incredible. But we're not gonna act like the projects, the albums that Brent been dropping over the last, however many years. All of them have been crazy. Yes, but there's a, of course, they're crazy, but there's a reason why Frank is upholded the way that Frank is upheld. A lot of that shit be, you know, other things. I'm just talking about just the music. What thing? What's things? I mean, you know, it's be other things that they, you know, I'm just talking about the music. Are you saying that Frank is giving extra credit because he's gay? No, see, look, look how fast. I was asking. That's what I took from it. That's what I was. I was asking. That's exactly what I took from it. Y'all a part of the problem with internet, y'all see. They need to bang y'all cameras. Y'all just, yeah, it's y'all full. Why, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying what you things were. I'm just saying when you get pulled in for a hook, I thought Ivy was just incredible. When you get pulled in for a hook with, you know, Kanye and Jay and the Dream and up, yeah, you're gonna get put in that level where it's like, oh shit. Like, you put Brent right there too. He gonna perform. He gonna show out. I think the work hook is just as iconic as no church in the wild. What you did with Golyn? I see money all around me. I feel like I'm the, I think that's just as iconic. I don't know what you're saying there. No, I'm just, if we get, okay, if we get two more of those. Let us get two more of those. Let bring it to more of those. I'ma have to just put on a channel orange while we leave the, and I just want y'all to see. No, no, you putting on the wrong shit. Yeah, you go again, back to me. That's what I'm talking about. I can't. You putting on shit we already got. I can't. Frank is not active. So I don't even really want to entertain this conversation too much. I think Icon did put Brent ahead of a lot of the male R&B active singers right now. It's different. This album is incredible, man. I'm talking about shit, but this album is incredible. Like I really, I was more, I mean, we were all anticipating now because we all fuck with Brent, but like, I didn't think it was a piece good. Yeah, I didn't think it was gonna be. I really did. This is an incredible album. Like, I don't know who, if he got a new team or producers and whoever sequenced this motherfucker, y'all niggas went in there and did what y'all was supposed to do. Shout out to his entire team because this icon album is all of that. This shit is fired. I'm fucking with this project. Well, shout out to him. Well, I mean, it definitely helps when you have Rafael Sadek, Danny Blanco, like Dean. You just got to get him. I got a fave, shout out to Fave. Like, yeah, there's some producers on here. I can't, and the Rafael, you can hear it. You could feel the Rafael Sadek. You could feel all that in there, Paul. They said that though, but I'm looking at, this is Wikipedia, so don't quote me. I don't see Rafael Sadek on any of this, but that was like the press run that they put out. Rafael Sadek, studio, just because he was in the studio. Executive producer, he was diddy in it. Paul, even if he wasn't, the fact that he was just in that motherfucker, just the energy. Yeah. Sometimes you just need to write people in the room. I think it's just crazy. Maybe they confused it and maybe Sean E. P. Cause he does a Sadek party. Maybe that's what they were. That's where they were getting that. Oh, you know what? I never knew that Rafael Sadek's real name wasn't Rafael Sadek. So let me go back to the snout and find Wiggins. No, still not there. Yeah, but it sounded like Rafael Sadek all over that shit. Fire, baby D. Trust me. I'm gonna give it another chance. And I didn't say it was bad. I just, I didn't get with like, y'all were upholding it like that shit was thriller. I'm like, okay, I didn't get that. I see everybody said, see how fast you go too far. You see how fast I said Frank Golgey, you said MJ. We not doing it. Rory said is it too human nature for you? He said it. Yeah, okay, but you know what I see this while I hate when people take shit out of context. You know what I meant when I said human nature that, that sonically, there's like two or three records that are in that bag. Sometimes people don't like that bag, unless it's from Michael. No, I wasn't comparing it to human nature. Oh, you know, see, I don't like this. Cause you knew what I meant. That you just doing the shit on the mic. You knew it when I said that. How was that album? I'm sorry, Jilly Fulfillian. I didn't get to Jilly Fulfillian. I didn't get into Jilly Fulfillian. I definitely did and delivered the shit. She delivered? She did, but here's the problem. This is gonna sound nuts. I only gave it to listens cause I was listening to Brent, oh, fucking weekend. I couldn't get past the Brent album, but I listened to it twice. I think it's great. It's long. Do you really think it's great? Yeah, no, I really do. There are some moments where, you know, I'm probably gonna skip, but I do love the positivity and the rapping on this. Oh, you know, her and T.R. Wack on Northside. I was a little nervous when I saw Northside just cause what Vince Staples has created with that brand. And I know T.R. Wack and Jilly are from Northside Affiliy. But when you throw the F on that, I was like, are you guys have some shoes to fill, even though Joe Scott is a legend. DJ Premiere produced that one. That record is fucking nuts. They went nuts. It's great. I do want to like give it its proper. Listen. Yeah, cause it is, it's an hour and some change. It's a lot of music and a lot of content, but I did love it. Abso came in with the sun stars in the moon. He got on his astrology shit per usual, but no, I really did like it. How was the J.I.D. track? It was great. And it had me thinking, it takes J.I.D. forever to give somebody a verse. I wonder how quickly you gave Joe Scott this verse. Oh, it ended. Jilly from who? Yeah, I'm in a studio. No, no, no, no, it's not even a trip. But no, it is really, really good. Some of my favorite joints, sincerely do the outro is incredible. To be honest, which was the one with T.R. Wack Northside is incredible. I think two short killed BPO T.Y. Rarely. That would have been one of my favorite joints on there. And I get it, but it didn't need short, which is kind of sad to say, but yeah, they could have left short off that shit. Beautiful people is incredible. Overall, I do love it. And I do want to give it a proper review on Thursday. When we record after you guys listen to it as well, but yeah, Brent kind of took over my weekend. Okay. But there's joints on there for sure. Well, after I listened to Brent this morning, I was on my new music shit, so I immediately went into A-Bogie with the hoodie EP. And I just want to say that for over a decade, A-Bogie has been making better music than the rest of you, because I just want to let that be clear. We got a lot of trimmings on you. Every single time. Every single time, bro. Another bunch of legions. I don't know if it's New York bias. Out every single time this nigga comes on with new music, I was synabed there immediately, just start bouncing. I'm like, yo, he do it every single time. That PGD with Kyle Rich and Zetty Will to the young holes, I know that the young hole trend is a thing. To the young holes, all of your TikToks should be to that song. It's PGD, which is girls just want to party, get drunk. Oh my God. I said, I feel young again. I feel young again. So his EP before artistry, please, please, please, go check that out if you fuck with, even if you don't fuck with A-Bogie. I don't know what you do. Go listen to that. I'm happy as an EP. Six months. Six months. My ride home. Yes, six months. Yes. I want A-Bogie shout the high bridge. Yeah, still. I know he says Bronx legends all the time, but A-Bogie is a Bronx legend. Yes. He does not get the ring. There's one of the biggest Bronx legends. I would love a lot of y'all niggas is his sons and daughters. Mad facts. Sons and daughters. This hindsight is always 2020. I wish A-Bogie would have executive produced Bobby Schmurtis first project when he got out of jail. That makes sense. I really like if A-Bogie got in that studio and kind of took reins of how to put a project together, I think we'd be looking at a different trajectory with Bobby right now. Not that wild video he just fucking posted. I'm gonna say it every year. That was Bogie, Don Q, Neat-A-Arm together. I mean, they have, nah, they need an album. They have a thousand songs. I mean, I think it's needed. I love Don Q. A whole album. Don Q. But even Don Q's projects like A-Bogie is kind of EP those as well. Yeah. A-Bogie could save New York if you guys would just listen, save New York. No, that's the joke and I'm not joking. You just want to the f**k. Bogie could save the city. He's one of the few artists from that, from his generation because he's been out like I said for over a decade. A-Bogie is one of the artists from his generation where he had, he still has his sound, but he does not sound dated. So many artists from 2015, 2016, 2017, their sounds, they sound like it sounds like that time and it sounds dated to me. He still sounds like himself, but he does not sound dated, bro. Like he's, he's amazing. I will always go to Hartford A-Bogie. So please go listen to him for our artistry. If you get to chance six tracks, that's nothing. He got a trippy red on there. Kyle Rich is Eddie well, other, Eddie well, sorry. Other than that is just him singing, rapping, saying real shit. I f**k with it. Saying real shit is hilarious. Saying real shit. A-Bogie be saying real shit, he is. He do, he do. What? He always had that. Pitch on drowning. No, that was poetic. Well, my nigga said, we said baby, do you? Well, he said, I got 99 problems and messages. Don't be asking me why on Tech Shoe Bitch, rap your legs around me like we wrestling, get on your knees. Don't you be so damn hesitant. What? I got 99 problems and messages. Don't be asking me why on Tech Shoe Bitch for show. He sound like me. You ain't using my bag with that one? Yeah. So can you say the f**k off my Instagram? I don't know why my phone always in your hand. Right. Mine your business. Oh my God. You know I'm a businessman. Right. You're gonna be listening to me bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm not a businessman. I'm a businessman. Right. A-Bogie see, see, she got a white boy always. They're gonna always find a way to infiltrate the culture. Yeah. Shut up. I just infiltrate the culture. Shut up the A-Bogie man. I'm gonna check that joint out. I definitely am. And again, we just need, maybe Merrill could get on this now that he's running high 97. We need Bogie to be the Gucci man of New York City. If you're a new artist, Joey Badass get with, get with A-Bogie. He needs the EP Every New York City album moving forward. Do we have voicemails? Do we? Of course we do. Sponsored by Bruce Mellwell, unlimited talk text and that. You've got mail. I mean a bit of a sticky situation man. I wanna ask my girl if she'll peg me. If she'll f**k me with a strap on. Now I know that sounds crazy. I know it sounds like I'm on some fruity stuff, some fruity loops or something like that. But man, some girl I used to f**k with back in the day. She peg me and on God that should felt different gang. It felt different. Don't gang me. It honestly felt better than the blow job. It felt better than normal f**king. Real talk. And I've just been chasing that sensation ever since. But I'm just chasing that sensation. I'm scared that the girl I'm talking to if I ask her, she gonna f**k can tell everybody that I'm gay or something shit. Or she gonna just leave me or she gonna f**k my lose or something shit man. But man, I've been chasing that feeling ever since y'all. Honestly man. Like I feel for every dude out there because I think we missing out man. We missing out. Oh. He's a love y'all. Don't piece a love me fam. Don't piece a love me after that. I don't want to piece all love. Let's not kink shame and let's also thank him for his vulnerability. I'm a killer. Why can't we? Okay, that can't just appreciate his vulnerability. I say you just as gay forget as he is forget and f**k didn't. That's why I was about to start with you are advocate of getting your diaper changed. And that step is getting pagged. That's not the next thing. That's what y'all would like to think the next step. That's not the next step. There's some people who will shame your kink. But it's not a kink though. I'm not saying I need that and I'm chasing that sensation every time I have sex. I'm just saying girls just they end up doing it. I don't ask for it. I'm like okay, go get yourself. You just raise your leg a little bit. I mean, I'm gonna help you out. Yeah. If I see you looking under the bed for a remote, I'm gonna move the blanket. That's all. You just sit there after the airplane and all like this. That's all. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna lift the blanket up when you see it. You got it? That's all. Damn. But this dude, you know. All right. Ask him how should he ask the girl? That's not kink. You should not ask the girl at all. I think you should. No, you should not. Don't listen to her. She's gay. You should not ask a girl to peg you. More nine times out of ten, it's gonna turn the woman off. She's not gonna be into it. I'm just helping you out, bro. Let's just be honest with you. We giving them solid advice. Most women are not comfortable with their man asking them to peg them. Last just me. Women and ladies, are y'all comfortable with that? They both done it. I think that he should. Yes or no? Yes or no? Yes or no? Have are you comfortable? Yes or no? Comfortable with that? Yes, we're doing that. Yes or no? No. No. There's two nose over there. But he could just ask her what kink she's into. She's in that kink. I have to go volunteer that one. Y'all not into that. Yes or no? No. Baby, are you into that? She's homophobic. I am not. Don't put that with the foot. Baby, do you? Are you into it if your man asks you to peg him? Is that my thing? No, but if I was married and that's what he wanted, then I would explore it. Demar, you said you could never even be with a man that has sucked a dick before. Oh, okay. But that's that. No, because that's different. You having a thing. Getting pegged is by curious. I'm talking. You having an attraction to men. You having attraction to men being bisexual is completely different from you liking to get pegged. That's completely different. If you want to get pegged by a woman, that's completely different. That's like there's lesbian. There's lesbians. There's lesbians who are not attracted to men and would never have sex with a man, but they use strap-ons. That doesn't make them straight because they're using a fake dick. That doesn't make them straight. They're still attracted to women. They're mixed in your bones. They're mixed in your bones. I'm joking. They just like the sensation. So I get that and what lesbians are gay. Yes, because they're attracted to each other. So if a strap-on enters your ass, you would be. No, that doesn't make up like that. There's no, you can't draw that. Never mind, never mind. I'm not kinshane. It's going to be a g-spot it is. Yes, I don't kid with my g-spot it is. It's not by the chair, but it's a tangerine. And then she puts a tongue in it and a finger and then you press it. No, no, no, no, you see the gradual? I don't graduate. We not doing that. No, it ain't no finger. No tassel is going to it. Yeah, it's finger-toned and it's a peg. No, that's not, we're not doing that. A lot of men like being pet, though, it's a thing. Yes, that's a lot of men. A lot of men. It's not going to be a big thing. It's going to be a small little like fuck. Yeah. A fuck plug with the diamond on his neck. From painting with a little dildo. It's the same as the tongue. It's a stiff tongue. No, it's not everybody. Who's teaching you how to do it? It's not the same. No. What's his name? We don't have to say his name. Don't say his name. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. No, it's not. It's different folks. If that's how you get down cool, but I'm kind of with the room here, unless she brings that up, she's going to look at you. I personally wouldn't ask her that because I think she's going to act. You could fill her out. You could be like, yo, like you ever like pegs or my. And then if she gets disgusted, if she gets disgusted, turned off like, What do you go say? Yeah, that's crazy, right? Yeah. His dream. His dream is going to be like, yeah, no, I'm not chasing that sensation. Yeah, there are websites where you can go to to get that sensation outside of that relationship. But if that's something that you don't go. Well, website is this. Wouldn't that be cheating? I don't think they're in a relationship. I think they're just dating. Okay. But, you know, if that's something you're going to be chasing for the rest of your life, eventually, you're going to cheat on me with somebody that's fucking you in the ass. So just ask me from the very beginning. Just ask me from the very beginning. Imagine Demarice's reaction. She found out her man was cheating by getting fucked in the ass. Do you think she'd sound as liberal as she sounds right now? No, not at all. I think she would come in with a whole different hair color, old kind of shit. Anything to come up with. Anything to rinse that nigga out of her soul. I'm putting that on me. Anything to rinse that nigga out of her soul. She's going to come in with a whole different hair color. I need that energy from that demon off of me. I don't know. I guess to try to give like real advice if you ease into the ass eating or a finger there. Well, maybe I don't know. Just no. I've never asked someone to pick me up. I'm not supposed to get pleasure because he's supposed to be scared to ask for it. I'm not shaming him at all. I just don't think he's that. I just don't think he's that. I think yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't think he should ask that. I don't think the girl's going to be into that. And I think she's going to stop fucking with him. And this is going to get from a group chat. And then his new nickname is going to be peg boy. Like, okay, this Italian. My point is, if he wants to be pleasure, if that's something that you really, really want, then you should be with somebody and dating somebody who's willing to sexually satisfy you. If that person is not willing to sexually satisfy you, then leave. There's some people I don't like. They might be squirted and do some people need to be with them? No, you leave and you go to the next person. Here's my thing. I don't mind that. But it's not an end all be all if I like somebody. If she doesn't want to squirt on my face, I'm like, that's not a deal breaker for me. No, what I'm saying is, it's always great to be a beard though. For the person who does that, if you're dealing with somebody who's like, ew, squirting is disgusting. I don't want that. You don't need to be with them. True. But is that a deal breaker? If squirting disappears from my relationship that I love, I'm not going to leave. I'm talking about from the woman's perspective. You keep talking from your perspective. From the woman's perspective. If that's something that she does and that's something that she's into, why would you ever go be with somebody? No matter whether they talk about you and call you pissy mattress or not, if that's something that you do and that's your end to, you need to be with somebody who's into the same things as you and you will never know until you ask. That's a very mature way of putting it. Like just ask, okay, so what she called you, peg voice on what? That's what you into. That's what the fuck you into. People need to stop. That's why we need to stop kink shaming so that people can be more. And that's why I also say stop STD shaming because people need to be able to be open about what the fuck they have going on sexually so that everybody else knows and people can stop being shamed for it. People can just be open. That's why. Be open with your shit. I respect you. You got AIDS. You should tell me. Well, yes, for me. I agree with you. I was going to the extreme. No, I get it. You always got to go to the whole other spectrum. Yes. I do feel like a fisherman can always spot another fisherman. I feel like he knows the girls that like are down for the peg. And I feel like he already knows that she's not into that. You know, that's why he left the the voicemail. What the girls, was it one of them talking about pegging somebody with New York boots on or something like that? He wanted that. He wanted that. He saw how they were laughing about that gentleman. Now they said they did it and then they stopped talking to him, right? I don't know if they went like that. I don't know if they did it and then stopped talking to him. Oh, okay. Because I thought they said they did it for money and then they stopped talking to him. No, I think once he sent money, they stopped talking to him. Oh, okay. Something like that. I don't think they actually went through it and did it. Well, he paid for the peg and didn't get the peg. Mm-hmm. Just got laughed at. That's kind of the new grim walk. I can't see. Listen, man, you know, this is what we do here. We're in a community building community here. Okay. Well, then I mean, how do you bring up your kinks to the person you're dating? How do I bring up my kinks? Yeah. I don't. They usually just, you know, in real time, they just hit the spots. Facilities. Okay. You know what they doing? Got you. Okay. No, the Maris. Me? I asked them things with their porn histories and who their favorite porn star is and what their porn. I asked what your porn hub search and that's usually we'll tell you a lot of our people. Okay. So if your porn hub search is big busty Latinas. You don't got no business being with me. Okay. I'm the exact opposite. I have no bust. BBW. I am not a BBW. I'm saying what that means. He shouldn't be with you either. So his porn history should match who you are. When it comes to the type of per out, but I'm not, I don't care about who you're looking at. I'm so caring about what you're looking at. What are you looking for in the porn? Not who you're looking at. Who you're looking at is just who you're attracted to. What are they doing there? I'm the same shit I'm trying to do in the bedroom. I'm trying to go, I'm trying to go remake all of this shit in the bedroom. Yeah. All of this you think just did not 30. Meet me in there. Yeah. Yeah. 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Yeah, like I don't want to see no advertisement none of that. Let me give right to where she's at Whatever she's doing we gonna find out. I don't know what she's doing in this scene I've never seen this one before and then you got your favorite scenes from your favorite ones that you know You got the bookmarks. Yeah, you know she about to get into yeah, but I'm not into this orgy in the shower I'm like I'm cool never doing that Seven weeks of water seven-dig as two girls. What are we doing? It's stinking here The steam is like what we doing in here. It's just it's not crazy. I'm not doing that Editing porn must be funny. I know I go to edits porn Front of mine we should interview her. I have so many questions. Yeah quickly though Obama said aliens are real and then the interviewer just went on to the next question like Would you have her dinner last night? No, he didn't do that. He said he never seen him. There's no area 51 He said unless they kept a top secret from the president He didn't see or knowing about any of that the second most famous like he would tell us if it was the second most famous President in our country's history casually said Yeah, aliens are real and the world didn't stop Why would the own the interviewer was like that? Anything we all know aliens are really I thought that was like a like we all knew If you don't think aliens are real. I don't know what you're doing with your life. I mean yes I think the IRS is a scam. We all know that when if the president said yeah We don't go wait we know it's true, but the fact that you just said that's it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a difference Definitely casually saying aliens are this is not a movie. Yeah Obama said aliens are real the way we just talked about the bladget Yeah, now I've lab he was crazy Yeah, Addy. I fucking President Barack Obama said aliens are real And we went about our fucking day who went back to the brunt album That's not fucking insane to y'all. What we gonna do I knew that I was waiting for Barack to confirm it I would the whole interview would have had to start like my follow-up questions are coming from I don't care what take that cue card I don't care about your daughter Anything yeah going on what did you just say? Yeah And he said his first question this president was we had aliens He said I was the first president. I wish the aliens. I want to see him Got me thinking the Epstein shit is fucking everybody up. Oh man. What a world we live man Okay, maybe I'm the only one that just thinks that's absolutely no, I'm with you I'm gonna do man. I'm with you though. I get it distractions. No, I understand before we leave We would do want to send the rest in peace Yes, Shane Shane curry We lost her last week I know that you you Rory had a close relationship with her. I know peach had a relationship with as well But we did lose her last week. So we do want to send condolences and prayers to her family And anybody any of her friends and close loved ones I know that can be a heavy loss losing somebody so young So full of life and vibrant and energetic As such a young age. So rest in peace to Shane curry and our prayers and condolences with her family. Yeah absolutely and I want to say with her her closest closest friends they they have been So strong and representing her so well to the rest of the world of who she was So I do want to give I don't like the word shout out, but More strength and prayers to her really close immediate circle. Yeah, they they have been representing her the way She really should be representing who she was as a person. You know, I've known Shane since 2011 like That was to me is like a reflection of each other as far as trying to come up in this business like I watch that girl grind from absolutely nothing to make an impact where somebody like jay Cole was stopping what they're doing Rightfully so to go pay their respects soon. I mean I could talk for hours of how much I love Shane You know, I was talking to Maris We didn't end up going Friday just because it was too much and I was talking with with Cory Chris cast and over like it was just too much for a lot of us to even go there. So I Love everybody that that went to the event on Friday and and was much stronger than us to to even be there for and Yes, this this one was this one was pretty rough man. This is tough Very young woman like that. Yeah, yeah, cuz I was even Just looking at at photos of us in 2011 like we look like like actual like children. Yeah, it's it's In Sainte well, we always talk about the viral picture of Rory with the with the Belier bottles that was at one That was actually the end house Yeah, man, yeah, I mean purrs uh miss Mulan Chloe just everyone that that is extremely close to her Her family I can't say enough amazing things about them like she was She was she was one of my favorite people period. Mm-hmm So yes, this this one sucked it it was a very rough rough weekend To be honest always tough to lose such a young vibrant people Like that's always like one of the things that I always look at like when you lose people when they're young And see what they got so much ahead of them so much more to do That's always tough because you always thinking forever like what if you know like what else what she have done and How much more you know good times and good moments where we have had like it's always tough, but she lived uh Full of life she was very you know I was spoken and loved her people loved a circle and it's time to carry that on with each other So rest of the piece of Shanei curry and again continue prayers condolences to her family and her friends Yeah All right, well on that note Thank y'all Pam Regina Thank you all for coming today. We appreciate y'all. Thank you for my gift. Thanks guys. Yes, it didn't you listen your practice that You didn't feel the way like they made me a t-shirt as well, but they used the Spotify basketball photo Like I can't even wear it like like Demarice's shirt is fire like she can wear that out Oh my god, who's that Irish guy when I go to a pub and I said some random white podcast they though you were like important like they thought you were important They thought you was important gave you guys a sweater and a shirt. She's about this shirt That is true. Listen, I appreciate y'all. Thank you so much. I love my shirt. Thank you so much I know exactly where mine is right now. Did you not give yours maybe two or two a young woman that was No, that was leaving your house like yo, you could wear this one. No, she didn't want a brand of that way Now when they come to my house, they know they stand so they bring their own shit Little we can do yeah, no, little whole bag bring your shit. You ever had a bitch rip some of her weave out and stuff it under your pillow Nah none of my bitches do you can't say I've ever had that happen. Yeah none of my bitches do Me neither we're talking. I saw be said be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger piece This is an iHeart podcast guaranteed human