Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out, presented by eBay Live. I am Pablo Torre, and today you're going to find out what this sound is. Oh, he's eating that ass. Right after this ad. I last gathered us here because, and you may recall this, because Wyatt was going to be Stephen A. Smith's campaign manager. I don't know that I agree with that. That sounds like fake news. I mean, we did polling. Wyatt was very hostile to Stephen A. Smith, 2028. That sounds very true. As I recall, I was like SAS, slightly curious. Not pro at all. You were Stephen A. curious. That's right. Yeah, I just want to walk this idea around the block a little bit, kick the tires on it. Obviously, Wyatt's instinct on that was much more correct than mine. I'm a big enough man to say that. There was no need to kick the tires on it. And I wish I could take credit for summoning you both back on an emergency podcast level because Stephen A has declared, I've thought about that presidency thing. And maybe I don't think you're running. Am I right? I don't think I'm running either because I got to give up my money. I can tell you right now, let me put that presidential aspiration to bed. If I have to give up my money, it's not happening. Yeah, I just learned that apparently I would have to give up my money if I became president. Like, that tells you just how unserious the whole thing is, that this is the moment that he just learned that that's part of becoming president. Tim, did you see the clip? Did you notice the setting and to whom he said this to in his big announcement? It was Sean Hannity, correct? It was on Hangout with Sean Hannity, Sean Hannity's new podcast. He's coming into our space. I was going to say. Pablo. I was going to say. Hannity's like, I want to compete in the long-form interview game. And I got to say, I get to know Sean a little bit back when I was a Republican 100 years ago. And I just don't think that's his strength. And I think that Stephen A. should probably play to his strength, which is yelling at people on TV. So that's right. He's like, learn that. And I think that Sean will probably learn after like eight episodes of this podcast that he should go back to his strength. which is also demagoguery on television, not long-form conversation. You say that, but the thing that I can never forget about Sean Hannity is there was an episode of Hannity where he sat down with Chuck Liddell. Yes. And took Chuck Liddell to his home to show him his workout room and grapple with Chuck Liddell. Chuck is known for this overhead-killing knockout punch. Listen, I love you, man. I'm your biggest fan. The last thing I ever wanted, if you hit me, I'm in the hospital. And it very much felt like when a child wants to show their parent they're good at soccer, where it's like, watch me, watch me kick the ball. Chuck, watch me kick the ball. And it's just instead, it's him, like, just trying, like, elbow moves on one of those boxing dummies. Sean Hannity has also made an aesthetic choice to wear a backwards cap. Yes, right. Yeah. Yeah. It's so good. I wish, by the way, that that was the extent of the MMA we're here to talk about on the show. We're here to talk more MMA, and you got at least one super expert on MMA. I hope that's you, Tim, because I've never actually— Oh, no. I was hoping it was you. No, no. I'm a homosexual. I don't know anything about MMA. Tim, I got wrestling. Gays do kind of like WWE because there's a camp to it. Sure. Just the pure blood sport without the acting, without the theater element to it. There's no gold dust. There's no gold dust that's in MMA. Yeah, Mr. Perfect is not in MMA. I know enough to be dangerous, I guess. Not an expert, though, no. Tim, I dare say that mixed martial arts, which is fundamentally a sport in which two men are literally embracing as much as humanly possible. In their underpants. In their underpants. may be more within your province than you've ever dreamed. Well, I do have to tell you, Peyton Talbot is an MMA. Yes, that's right. There's some rumors that he was in a fling with Frank Ocean. I don't know if that's true. Oh, boy. So I don't want to make any accusations or anything. I like this rumor, though. I don't want to make any compliments of either of them because it would be a beautiful thing if it were true. But I did do a deep dive on Peyton's social media account after hearing that rumor. That's pretty good. I can see the appeal. I can only repeat what Reddit is telling me, which is that they were hanging out on Valentine's Day. There you go. I want to start, Wyatt, with a different example, though, of Tim Miller's experience with physical combat. Okay. I want to walk us there. And so the Christy Gnome thing, let's just start with the big headline and then walk us to the octagon that Tim Miller entered with a character relevant to Christy Gnome. Sam, if you were to catch people up on what happened to Kristi Noem, the head of which department, and in what context was that department in the news recently? Yeah. So Kristi Noem, former governor of South Dakota, became secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. She was a big Donald Trump supporter. She did everything possible to get into his good graces, including whether this was part of getting into his good graces or not. one thing that happened simultaneously to that was she did also get a new face, which was an interesting choice. And so she gets a role in the cabinet, as she had been aspiring to do. She brings along with her Corey Lewandowski, Donald Trump's first campaign manager in 2016. Corey, a longtime Trump hanger-on. He got fired from that job as campaign manager originally, but he sticks around. A big season one character that I forgot until I was like, oh, wait a minute, the Corey Lewandowski thing is happening again with Christy Noem. Yeah, he's back, season seven. Yeah, he just kind of stayed around the hoop looking for opportunities. And so he gets back in with Christy Noem. A lot of discussion that they may be having an affair. A lot of rumors about that. She is married. He was at a fundraiser being thrown by MAGA donors. It was an addiction awareness fundraiser. It was being thrown by MAGA donors at a Benihana in Las Vegas. and at that Benihana, Corey Lewandowski got hammered, started hitting on one of the wives of one of the big Trump donors and Christy was also there and Christy was getting mad at him, texting him under the table and a lot of people were wondering why does Christy care so much that Corey is behaving poorly towards this other woman and kind of that led down a path towards I think some pretty strong feelings that they might be intimate. So they go together, maybe lovers, maybe not, to the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees, among other things, ICE and CBP, the Border Patrol. Among other things, it includes also the TSA. So if you're annoyed about TSA or the long lines, that's another thing. It was in Kristi Noem's remit. It seemed like a pretty good job for her. This was a high priority for Trump, deporting people, immigration, and Border Patrol. And yet, Kristi went even a little too far for Trump. She was spending a lot of money recklessly, Her and Corey were flying around on like these $100 million jets. They spent like $200 million on advertisements about all the work that they were doing, deporting people. Trump gets pissed and she gets fired. How's that? Is that a good summary? It's an excellent summary. And really, before I play some of the tape from what is an increasingly rare site, which is something like a member of a Trump cabinet answering questions in a meaningful— From Republicans. From Republicans in a, like, beyond the pale, holy s***, this seems bad if she has to do this sort of a way. Tammy, in your estimation, the reason she had to resign, in the pie chart of that, how much of that was American citizens got killed in Minnesota versus the stuff that we're going to really sort of dig into, which is more of the circus element? I think American citizens getting killed in Minnesota was like 1% of the reason why she got fired. And I do think it's important that it was 1%, not zero, because I think that she was probably on the path to getting fired regardless. But I do think that the degree of the s*** show that it was in Minnesota, not to make a lot, I mean, killing two people is worse than a s*** show, but the degree of just how it seemed like they didn't have any control over what was happening, I do think that like kind of led to the spiral that brought all this other stuff that actually made Trump mad to light and so I think that it was kind of a catalyst for it but you know had she you know been minding her p and q in other ways not offending Mr Trump in other ways she probably could have survived it I mean Stephen Miller is still there and he was overseeing this immigration action as well And so I think that what ended up getting her was that Trump doesn like it when she like wait a minute, you were spending $200 million to do ads about yourself? And like what you were doing? Like, what about me? What about Mr. Trump? You know what I mean? And I think that like she was embarrassing him, which ends up being kind of the bigger issue than the deaths, I would say. These Q&As from the Kristi Noem hearing in front of Congress, they're worth watching. So, Secretary Noem, at any time during your tenure as Director of Department of Homeland Security, have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski? Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today. And ma'am, one thing that I would tell you is that he is a special government employee who works for the White House. There are thousands of them in the federal government. So reclaiming my time, Secretary, it is okay for you to be offended by the question. It is okay for you to be offended by the question. But it is also a real question. So what I would say to you is that what we do at the Department of Homeland Security every single day, every single day, is to protect this country and to make decisions. If you or any federal official is sleeping with their subordinate, that should be the easiest. You should be wanting to answer that question. As garbage? Because it is not about your sex life. It is offensive that you have brought that up. It is about your judgment. That kind of garbage has been refuted for years. I think it's very important to always clock when you're watching someone under-questioning is, is there a no? At any point in that, are you saying no? Yeah, so it's hard to feel bad for anybody. It's like signed up for this, but you got to kind of feel bad for, I mean, being cheated on for Corey Lewandowski is tough. That is tough. I want it. It's not like, it's not like Pete, you know, it's not like one of the handsomer people of the administration. I mean. The vehicle at the center of this. I just want to be very clear because there is so much being said. We were talking about these luxury airliners that were allegedly being purchased for a nine figure amount that had bedrooms in them that were supposedly being used for deportations. but many were wondering, is this just a f*** plane for Kristi Noem and Corey? Many were wondering that. I don't think that I'm among them because it's an image that I've been trying to avoid thinking about. But during the hearing, I don't know if you have this, they showed a picture of the bed. And I'm like... What's the aesthetic of the deportation? I would say it's kind of like a Hampton Inn. Oh, all right. Imagine a Hampton Inn, but in the sky. In the sky. Yeah. I would say that was kind of the aesthetic. There was also a controversy, like one of the sub-controversies here, was that Corey and Christy were mad at one of the pilots because they'd left their special blanket on the plane. Forgot about the blankie. Like, I don't want to know what's going on under that blanket. We're about to repatriate this blankie. Wait, it was their special blanket or did one of them? Because I feel like that's all the evidence you need. If it's like, it's our shared special blanket. I feel like that's the smoking gun. I think his position is Corey was upset that the secretary did not have her special blanket. Gotcha. Okay. And the pilot, this U.S. Coast Guard pilot, did get fired subsequent to blanket gates, as it became known. for however fleetingly. Yeah, that's right. It's almost a side concern because we've got to get to the, back to the MMA of it. The side concern was, oh yeah, there was this $200 million plus deal to film these absurd, I mean, absurd is not even doing justice to it, but these ads that Tim was referencing before for Christy Noman, which she's on horseback, absorbing the glory of this country. And the contractor that got this thing was this obscure company that was subcontracted to, Tim, a company that was run by who? The husband of Christy Noem's spokesperson, Trisha McLaughlin. Who you may recall from the time that Trisha McLaughlin gave, Pablo Torre finds out a quote about the soccer player, Jersey Reyes, that we reported on, who was, again, insanely and seemingly indefensibly deported to Seacott in El Salvador, in which she insisted, quote, Jesse Reyes Barrios was not only in the United States illegally, but he has tattoos that are consistent with those indicating Trend de Aragua gang membership. His own social media indicates he is a member of the vicious TDA gang. That all said, DHS intelligence assessments go beyond a single tattoo. We are confident in our findings. End quote. As we reported on that episode, the tattoo that seemed to be one of this vicious gang's famous symbols was in fact a Real Madrid tattoo that lots of people otherwise can't have. Yeah, huge Real Madrid fans and the gang culture in Caracas. And these guys were liars all the way down. And so it's good for her to get her comeuppance. And that story that you tied to, I mean, Christy Noem, like you mentioned that the ads were ridiculous and like her and all the hats and the horses. But she also did all the propaganda, such as where she went to SACAD in El Salvador. You'll remember, and she stood in front of this cell filled with like shirtless, we now know, El Salvadorans because they'd kept the Venezuelans in a different part of the prison but she just stood for these like snuff film style pictures where she was all made up you know you hate to do like the focus on the aesthetics talking about how the woman looks but like this is all she cared about was aesthetics like she was trying to do like evil Barbie style aesthetics everywhere I think that it is totally legitimate to mock that and to take some comfort even though I don't think that the Trump administration's ICE regime is going to get that much better, but take some comfort in the fact that she at least has been shown the door. It is a weird thing, just the sort of social media-driven nature of what she was doing. I believe last week tonight did a whole thing on it where you see them arrest these guys, but they actually didn't have grounds to do it. But when you see like another camera's footage, all it is is just them setting up a social media shoot. and it feels. And on some level, there's a part of me where I'm like, is Donald Trump mad about that? Or is he just mad because she spent $200 million on this? And I'm sure he's like, and now Melania's mad because I only got $70 million for her documentary. Ah, shit. Now I'm going to have to somehow scrounge up another $130 million for somebody to put her in Tomb Raider. There is, Tim, as always, like the question of who is the audience that this administration thinks of when they make any decisions. And way too often, the only logical audience I can discern is Twitter, is X. And it's all these people doing stuff, Wyatt, for social media explicitly, who are looking for the applause from the worst people left online. Yeah, I mean, look, the Department of Homeland Security secretary is not supposed to be a media figure. It's not like that type of job, right? I challenge the audience to, like, conjure a mental image of Jay Johnson, for example, who is Obama's DHS secretary for four years. It's the Cash Patel in the locker room thing. It's like, this has never been a position that's, like— You're the FBI director. Go after bad guys. Some of the jobs are meant for that. Like, Secretary of State does have to speak publicly. You know what I mean? Like, there are certain jobs that are public-facing. Like, this is not that. It's a Homeland Security job. The job is about keeping us safe. And to have, like, this clownish woman having an affair, like flying around the country, like getting ridiculous plastic surgery, like taking Cruella de Vil photos in front of immigrants that they have chained. Like the whole thing was just ridiculous. But before we look ahead to who replaces Christy Noem, which is a relevant question, I want to look back for a second because the Corey Lewandowski thing that I was alluding to, the physical confrontation thing I was alluding to, Tim, Corey Lewandowski as this caricature of a person who is this sort of goon for Donald Trump. That's how I knew him in season one. It's also how you encountered him, literally. Yeah. Well, now that you've brought this up, Pablo, people are going to think that my assessment of Corey and Christie was personal. And let me tell you it was not, okay? This was a very, it was a minor encounter, and I'm a big boy. But I will say, in 2016, during the debate, so before he was president, Donald Trump, the candidate, so it was late during the primary, and I'd worked for Jeb and then I was working for an anti-Trump super PAC. And after debates, there's a spin room where the candidates go to and they talk to the media and try to spin, sometimes candidates, sometimes just their representatives, try to spin like why they did well and why the other people did terrible. And in this case, in 2016, I was following Trump around the spin room, like kind of trolling him a little bit and getting in and inserting myself into the Q&As he was having. He was getting a little annoyed with me. and like out of my peripheral vision, I saw what I thought was a security guard, like kind of a penis security guard man who like came up and got in between me and Trump and like hip me and then got nose with me and started like screaming as really screaming in my face. And I don't remember what he said because I was kind of blacked out by the smell of his breath, which was really horrendous. And after it ended, I asked my colleague, I was like, who was that? Like, who was that? And they're like, that's Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski. Like, I didn't recognize him at the time. I thought he was just a security guard. And so I think it was telling kind of about the type of campaign Trump had at the beginning, that like the campaign manager's serious job was also like the heavy in the spin room. So there you go. This is all really important context because the question has been, who is in charge of what has been an instrument of state-sponsored violence? And it turns out, okay, lingering around the periphery, perhaps in the alleged f*** plane, is that guy, Corey Lewandowski. and so who replaces his alleged girlfriend, Christy Noem? It is a guy who, I should say, I'd like to introduce via a clip of his own. Sir, this is a time, this is a place. If you want to run your mouth, we can be two consenting adults. We can finish it here. Okay, that's fine. Perfect. You want to do it now? I'd love to do it right now. Well, stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold on. Oh, stop it. Is that your solution? No, no, sit down. Sit down. No, no, you're a United States senator. Sit down. Okay. Sit down, please. All right. Can I respond? Hold it. Hold it. Wyatt, can you introduce some of the characters that we just heard there in that scene? Sure. That was Mark Wayne Mullen. And that was a hearing where he was talking to the head of the Teamsters. And apparently the head of the Teamsters had said some not nice things about Mark Wayne Mullen on Twitter. That was not why they were having this hearing. It was not a hearing to present someone. To litigate Twitter beef. Yeah. And so this is what Mark Wayne Mullen chose to use his time to do to challenge the head of the Teamsters that the two of them could fight. Mark Wayne Mullen then stood up as though he were serious. And then the fight was stopped by Bernie f***ing Sanders, which tells you just how unserious it was that they were stopped by the oldest man in the world who was just like, nope, nope, this isn't happening. And Mark Wayne Mullen, for all the piss and vinegar he had to stand up, was like, you're right, Bernie, let me sit back down. If you were really about it, you would have hopped over that f***ing table and you'd have gone and made a fool out of yourself on national television, but you got sat the f*** down by Bernie Sanders. Mark Wayne Mullen allowed himself to leave more space between himself and the head of the Teamsters than he does between the words Mark and Wayne in his first name. Mark Wayne. Mark Wayne. Yeah, I mean, if he had real balls, you know, he would have gone full Will Smith. Like, get down there. Don't stand up and pretend to fight. Don't do this nonsense, like fake tough guy nonsense. We're like, oh, let's throw hands. He was never going to throw down in the middle of a hearing. And if he was, then let's f***ing see it. All right? It is a little concerning, and I think that's kind of the tie between him and Corey. The types of people that you want in charge of something like Homeland Security, where you have to go after bad guys but also respect the rights of their citizens while you're managing public safety, I don't think you want f***ing hotheads. It's not really a job for hotheads. Hey, Derek Van Ryper here, host of Rates and Barrels, the home for baseball podcasting at The Athletic. In baseball, numbers are everywhere, but they're not just numbers. For me and my co-host, Eno Saris, they're the keys to solving the most fun problem in sports. So come and join us along with Britt Giroli, Trevor May, and Jed Lowry every weekday as we figure out all we can about a sport that's constantly changing. Plus, it'll make you a better fantasy baseball GM, too. Come back on Saturdays for a weekend trip to Starkville featuring Jason Stark and Doug Glanville talking to some of the biggest names in baseball. Find Rates and Barrels Monday through Saturday on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. If you were wondering, like, perhaps that's just a bad moment for Mark Wayne. Maybe that's just, you know, he's a hothead, but whatever. That's like one thing. To get a sense of his vibe, here's his campaign ad. Conservative Mark Wayne Mullen has always been a fighter. He knows the fight's worth having for God, for family, and for country. Mark Wayne Mullen is a Christian, a husband, a father of six, a businessman man who gets things done. The radical left is trying to transform our country, and some are afraid of fighting those fights. Mark Wayne, well, he wins the fights. Mark Wayne Mullins, you don't want to fight with him. I'm Mark Wayne Mullins, candidate for Senate, and I approve this message. That was 2022, and I want to shout out the fact always that we are a sports show here at Pablo Torre finds out, and Mark Wayne Mullins is, I believe, and we'll fact check this as I say it, I believe this is the first MMA fighter to have been elected to the United States Senate. According to his stats, he is an undefeated fighter who either is 5-0 or 3-0, depending on what sources you look at. Strong start. Yeah. Can't quite tell. In his late 20s, one of his fights was against a guy who goes by the name of Huggy Bear. And at the time, Huggy Bear was a teenager. so I have a lot of questions around a man in his late 20s who choked out a teenager, but that counts as a victory, I suppose, according to Tapology, which is where I go for all my MMA news. That's Tapology. Yeah. Also, Huggy is spelled like the diapers, not like the character from Starsky and Hutch. It's an important distinction. Yeah. I think you guys are giving a little bit too much credit. I know that we try to be fair and balanced on Pablo Torre finds out, and it's important to just lay out the facts, go where the investigation finds you, even if it's unappealing. But he was 3-0 in what appears to me to be like a semi-pro MMA league. It's called XFN. It's based in Tulsa. And I don't know. It kind of feels like somebody playing in the company softball league, winning three championships, and then running for the Senate and being like, I'm the first senator who was a softball champion. There is a need for us to clarify here. A Palpatore finds out that we did send requests for comment to Huggy Bear and to Clint Bonds and to Lazaro Amaro, which is an incredible name that somehow finishes third on the medal stand of all the names we've mentioned already. We have not heard from any of them in time for our deadline. But it is worth noting also, Tim, that when it comes to is Mark Wayne Mullen, fighter, semi-professional combat sports veteran, somebody who has embellished any part of his resume before. It is worth noting that his status as a military veteran, it seems, has also been under some scrutiny. Yeah, Pat Ryan, a former congressman from New York, shout out Pat Ryan, I like him a lot. He was going off on this because Mullen likes to just sort of, I kind of play cute with talking about being in war. He's talking about how he knows the smells of war and all this stuff when that just isn't true. Like, he hasn't done any of that. And I do think, you know, some of the actual veterans got a little annoyed by Senator Mark Wayne Mullen doing a little bit of, like, stolen valor, pretending like he was, you know, really in the fight overseas when he was not. Yeah, can you smell war from afar? I guess it's a philosophical question. Sure, yeah. That's true. Yeah. I'm going to say no. That's going to be my guess is no. Does war smell like what Corey Lewandowski's alleged halitosis smells like? In which case, you know, it knows no borders, perhaps. And I can't say, because I have not been in war. I can't compare and contrast, you know, the smell of napalm in the morning to the smell of Corey Lewandowski's breath. And importantly, neither can Mark Wayne Mullen, when he kind of pretends to. Yeah. Everybody wants to be a soldier, but nobody actually wants to go on the front lines. And we, as much as this is hilarious in a key undeniable way, it's also f***ing terrifying that this is who's in charge. Yeah that a good point And the playing pretend kind of does matter in this case Because like in a very real way a lot of the people that our government is sending into the streets right now to do immigration enforcement are playing pretend Yes. We have, you know, former Superman Dean Cain signed up to join ICE. Like that's the type of, it's the quality of person. Former Princeton football star Dean Cain. How dare you minimize his sports career? And then you have people who've done real work that I don't want to denigrate, like on the border at Border Patrol. Like, that's a dangerous job. It's a hard job you're doing with cartels. But we've been moving people from the border and redeploying them from the border into the interior of the country, into American cities to hassle people. And now that force is going to be at the command, basically, of the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullen, who, it seems to me, likes to play pretend violence. So that's a little alarming. Well, and to add to that, for all of those posturers that are on the ground in ICE, they're also wearing masks, which I think if you are someone who likes to posture, there is a freedom behind a mask. having performed enough and having performed in ways where you're in costumes and things like that, the thing that I feel like a lot of performers know and a lot of actors will talk about is when you are in costume, you can get caught up in the costume and it frees you from things that maybe your better angels would have prevented you from doing. And so the reason I want to do this topic in general is because, look, we're looking at Iran and we should, we're looking at new theaters of war overseas. But before we leave our country and what's been happening in the rear view, Tim, to sum it all up, what's changing? What has changed in the turnover of the Department of Homeland Security given that here are the characters that we've evolved from? Very little is changing. I think that hopefully some of the performative sadism might be being put on the back burner for a little while. We'll see how that goes. But I do think it's like meaningfully different. Greg Bovino, we even talked about, who was the short fellow that was like the point person in Minnesota. He had like the gas canisters dangling around his neck. Yeah, and he was executing a lot of what Kristi Noem and Corey Lewandowski wanted, which was like really inciting, trying to incite violence and push back in the community. And they replaced him with Tom Homan, who is not great. But, you know, he's more of kind of just a a kind of traditional hardline anti-immigrant operator, right? So I do think like some of the performative elements of this might go away. We'll see some of the performative elements of Christie Gnomes, you know, again, like we were saying earlier, like the snuff pictures in front of shirtless immigrants. Like I think that will probably change. Like the new secretary's facial muscles can move, so that'll be new. But I think that like the actual immigration policy will be pretty close to the same. and that's pretty discouraging and I think that Mark Wayne Mullen will have the same disincentives that Christy Noem did which is Stephen Miller and other people in the administration want a lot of deportations to be happening and so you know he's going to want to make sure that his ground troops are getting the numbers are doing the deportations so I think it will maybe be a little bit less inciting a little bit less kind of dark camp or whatever you call Christy Noem evil camp but policy wise, a lot of the same. There is one other possibility to throw out, which is Mark Wayne Mullen is Cherokee Nation. It could be possible that now as head of Department of Homeland Security, he then goes full Cherokee Nation and says, okay, yeah, I'm kicking everybody else who's out who's not Native American. And he just goes, he just starts rounding up white guys and it's just like, nope, nope, this is stolen land. You're on stolen land. Get the f*** out. All of a sudden, land acknowledgements are happening at the DHS press conferences. Yeah, I don't think that's likely, but... Probably not. It'll be interesting to monitor, Wyatt. I think it'd be an interesting plot twist, for sure. Look, my Stephen A. Smith prediction was right. This one, I might not be on target with. Well, we have an MMA event to look forward to at the White House. But truly, the fact that the president's birthday party is also a UFC event that Dana White is now this past week announcing. It's just, Tim, are you even ready for what that is, for what that's going to be? You know, I was thinking about this. I was planning what weeks I'm going to be off the podcast this summer. It's going to take a little vacation. And I'm like, maybe I should do it around the 4th of July so I just don't have to think about this. Maybe that should be the week I should go dark because it's just such, it's so f***ing ridiculous. I mean, like, really? We're going to have an MMA fight on the White House lawn to celebrate our 250? It is idiocracy. You know, Mike Judge did have a crystal ball. So, I don't know. But it's worth moderating and paying attention to because, like, the MMA culture is very wrapped up in this administration. And, like, that whole mindset is. And, you know, Dana White spoke at the convention. All those guys go to MMA fights and, like, watching Kash Patel and Marco and Trump and all these guys sit ringside in their suits. I think that they think it gives them an aura of toughness, right? Like, they really care a lot about this, like this machismo, this seeming strong. And I think that's kind of the political side of it. www.shopify.nl At the end of every episode of Palpatine Finds Out, Tim Miller and Wyatt Snack, we go around the table and we say what we found out today. Tim, is there anything that you found out on today's episode? I learned a lot about Huggy Bear, and I learned about the kind of semi-pro Oklahoma MMA culture that Mark Wayne Mullen came out of that's aired on Triller, the Bulgarian-based American television streaming outlet. And I would like to learn a little bit more. I may not understand my country a little bit better. I've learned a little bit. I think maybe I'd understand my country a little bit better if I learned even more about what was happening on Triller. I think the thing I found out is perhaps the person who's best qualified to do anything about border security might have been the bouncer in that Senate hearing, Bernie Sanders. The idea that Bernie Sanders is able to secure the border of a Senate hearing, maybe he's the person, instead of Mark Wayne Mullen, who should be at the top of that candidate list for that job. Yes, it is. It's just... Or he should just be, yeah, we should just have Bernie Sanders bouncing at nightclubs or anywhere where we just need some crowd control. Just have Bernie come in there and just kind of in his old man way just throw his hands and be like, ah, stop it. Stop it. You're a senator. Just the voice. What would your mother think about this? Let him be a referee at hockey fights. Stop it. Stop it. Literally, you're a senator. That's your team name. and you're a jet. Stop it. Both of you. He can wear those big mittens that he likes. Stop it. Both of you. Stop it. What I found out today in the ongoing research I've been doing since Tim dropped a journalistic bomb on me is that Frank Ocean did, in fact, apparently eight months ago, post an Instagram story update of rumored boyfriend Peyton Talbot in a position in which, again, I'm not here to make subjective assessments, but why what would you describe Peyton Talbot doing to Felipe Lima in this screenshot that Frank Ocean put on Instagram with a heart emoji next to the crying emoji oh he's eating that ass that is that is just objective ass eating can you send me that picture I missed that one that must have been I must have been before I started following Peyton. This has been Pablo Torre finds out a Meadowlark Media production. And I'll talk to you next time. I'll see you next time.
