🐚 Rhode Island Housewives Premiere + Ladies of London Ep 6: Threat to RHONJ, Tanning Salon Lore, Jo to Kelsey & London Scripted?
70 min
•Apr 8, 202610 days agoSummary
Two hosts discuss the Real Housewives of Rhode Island premiere and Ladies of London episodes, analyzing new cast dynamics, relationship drama, and production choices. They explore Rhode Island's exclusive culture, tanning salon lore connecting cast members, and debate whether Ladies of London is overly scripted versus authentically dramatic.
Insights
- Rhode Island's insular, protective culture creates natural reality TV tension—cast members view outsiders as threats, elevating stakes beyond typical franchise drama
- Tanning salons function as unexpected social infrastructure in Rhode Island, serving as the nexus point where multiple cast relationships and business connections originate
- Ladies of London employs heavy structural production (scripted beats, planted conflicts) that differs from organic Housewives franchises, though genuine moments emerge when cast members react authentically to unexpected revelations
- New Housewives franchises require deliberate pacing and cast rotation—Jersey's pause allows Rhode Island to establish itself while preventing franchise fatigue seen in shows like Jersey Shore
- Influencer status and business ownership create complex power dynamics in new franchises, as cast members leverage reality TV platforms to promote ventures while managing on-camera stress
Trends
Reality TV franchise rotation strategy: Networks strategically pause underperforming franchises to launch new ones rather than canceling, extending IP lifespanScripted reality TV evolution: Newer international franchises (UK-based) employ heavier production structures and narrative scaffolding than established US franchisesKept woman/non-monogamy normalization: Modern Housewives narratives openly discuss financial dependence and open relationships as lifestyle choices rather than scandalsCast member cross-pollination: Established franchises (Jersey) feed talent to new franchises (Rhode Island) to accelerate audience adoption and reduce casting riskInfluencer-to-reality-TV pipeline: Reality TV now serves as marketing vehicle for existing influencers and business owners rather than launching unknown personalitiesHealth advocacy through reality TV: Skin cancer awareness and dermatology becoming recurring narrative threads in Housewives franchises due to cast member transparencyAuthenticity as production challenge: Newer franchises struggle to balance producer-mandated story beats with organic cast dynamics, creating visible tension between scripted and unscripted moments
Topics
Real Housewives franchise strategy and renewal cyclesRhode Island culture and exclusivity in reality TVTanning salon industry and UV exposure health risksNon-monogamous relationships and modern marriage dynamicsReality TV production techniques and scripting practicesInfluencer monetization through reality televisionSkin cancer awareness and dermatology advocacyCast member cosmetic procedures and aesthetic trendsInternational reality TV format differences (US vs UK)Coffee shop business operations and work-life balanceGender reveal party trends and event productionLuxury rental properties and interior designWealth display and status signaling in reality TVReality TV authenticity vs performance debateBravo network programming and franchise portfolio management
Companies
Bravo
Network producing Real Housewives of Rhode Island and Ladies of London franchises; discussed strategy of pausing Jers...
On the Beach
Travel booking service advertising last-minute beach and city breaks; sponsor with promo code mentioned
Simply Health
Workplace healthcare provider offering 24/7 GP and mental health support; sponsor advertising employee benefits
Weight Loss by Hers
Telehealth weight loss service offering FDA-approved Wegovi pill and pen; sponsor with promo code 'drama' mentioned
Cash App
Financial services app for teens aged 13-17; sponsor highlighting financial education and parental oversight features
Charcuterie Creations
Company mentioned in Rhode Island premiere; cast member holds title of Chief Salami Officer
People
Teresa Giudice
Discussed as potentially exiting franchise as Bravo pauses Jersey to focus on Rhode Island launch
Melissa Gorga
Discussed as potentially exiting franchise; hosts predict she and Teresa may reunite for final season
Dolores Catania
Discussed as potential crossover cast member who could transition to Rhode Island franchise
Liz McGraw
Cast member discussed for cosmetic procedures, stepmom narrative, and tanning salon connections to other cast members
Kelsey
Cast member discussed as 'kept woman' in non-monogamous relationship; met sugar daddy at tanning salon party
Alicia
Cast member characterized as 'sleepy' and humorous; compared to Ramona from other franchises
Ashley I
Guest appearance at coffee shop; discussed as influencer with business ownership alongside husband Jared
Rosie
Cast member; former local news personality; discussed as bringing credibility and cultural relevance to franchise
Margot
Cast member living in $60,000/month rental; discussed for acting background and ability to perform on camera
Kimmy
Cast member involved in conflict with Martha and Missy; discussed for heightened, performative behavior on show
Martha
Cast member and actress; discussed for defending friends and authentic emotional reactions despite scripted format
Emma
Cast member with tumor health scare; praised for hosting abilities and hands-on event management
Missy
Cast member discussed for contradictory confessional statements and fear-based loyalty to Kimmy
Mika
Cast member at risk of losing driver's license; discussed in context of show's format questions
Lottie
Cast member; episode dedicated to her father who passed away from cancer
Mark
Cast member discussed for seasoned performance ability and strategic conflict management on camera
Luann de Lesseps
Referenced for starting dinghy/boat trend that other cast members now emulate on social media
Dorit Kemsley
Referenced for smoking footage that Luann capitalized on in social media posts
Heather Dubrow
Referenced for elevated party station design compared to Rhode Island cast member's caviar wiener station
Teddy Mellencamp
Praised for skin cancer advocacy and transparency about health journey, setting positive example for franchises
Quotes
"Rhode Island is the most exclusive fucking place on earth with the classiest broads in the world. Deal with it. I'm married to my third cousin, okay? I have $400 million."
Host (Amy)•~25:00
"I think that's the right thing to do. They're going to put it in there. I mean, I'm not okay. I just rephrase that. I don't think it'll never come back, but I think that that cast will never return again."
Host discussing RHONJ future•~8:00
"Everything in between the actual, other than when they're fighting is completely set up. Is it enjoyable to me? Absolutely."
Host (Emily) on Ladies of London scripting•~95:00
"I think they're very posh. I think they're, I just think this is them culturally. And it's a little bit more reserved and less sensitive."
Host (Amy) defending cast authenticity•~100:00
"You look gorgeous. Oh my God, you look gorgeous."
Hosts (recurring catchphrase)•Throughout
Full Transcript
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It's Rhode Island when someone says something, we all hear it! And Ladies of London. You slag. Talk about two completely different vibes on the spectrum, right? Emily? Oh my God. But I'm loving both of them. I know. Isn't it great to have that, you know, it's just like basically dinner and dessert. Or whatever. Or, you know, call it what you want. I saw the look you gave me. If you don't think it's that, it's not that. It's gorgeous. No, it's not. Oh my God, you look gorgeous. Is it possible that they're both dinner? It is. I mean, they are both main courses. Ooh. Well, actually, I, my, my thoughts changed. My thoughts changed last night. About what? Ladies of London. Oh. That's why I texted you. I said, are you up? Oh, I did see that this morning. I was asleep. Oh yeah, it was like 1130. I had a lot of nerve. I had a lot of nerve. But we'll get to that because, but first up is Rhode Island, which is very exciting because this is a new show that we've never embarked on. And the reason why I say that is because all the darlings who listen to this show from the United States and beyond, I mean, they're not watching all the shows. They just like to listen to us to have a little Ted on chat. They like to just listen. So this is a new show on Bravo. And it's like, it's like this. Goodbye, Jersey. Hello, Rhode Island. Sorry, I said it. Welcome in Rhode Island. You know, here's what I think, Emily. Predictions. Andy and the team over at Bravo, they were, they're kind enough to extend one final season for the Real Housewives of New Jersey. They're going to allow Teresa and Melissa to come together and have the fans see it. And then at the end of the season, they're going to say, thank you. Good night. And it's not going to come back. And I think that's the right thing to do. They're going to put it in there. I mean, I'm not okay. I just rephrase that. I don't think it'll never come back, but I think that that cast will never return again. And they'll start from scratch in maybe two to three years. It's going to be put on a major pause, back burner. We're going to focus on Rhode Island. We might circle back to Jersey eventually, but I do think that we have, we have Rhode Island now. Dolores can easily hop on over there. She did. She can hop on over there for good. And Melissa and Teresa and the rest of Jersey can hop on over to eat. And do. Jersey now is why I'm there. Oh my God. But. You know, just when you think that your world is like, you know, locked in and no big surprises, things change, guys. We learned that a long time ago. Yeah. And here we are. You know, we don't have New York. We don't have Jersey. Dallas. I'm kidding. I feel like that was a dig. I feel like that was a dig and I don't need to be a part of this. I feel like that was unnecessary. Well, I mean, we can you imagine if New York and New Jersey was the same cast filming at the pace that they had been filming for this entire time. That would never have worked. Not sustainable. Look at the secret lives of Mormon wives. Yeah. Look at what are some other shows that just churn and burn that are destructors. Well, they just burn out. I mean, even like Jersey Shore. I mean, all these shows now that they they they ended up having to be like pausing that. But like these shows can't sustain that pace. Well, you can't be drunk that that. They can't be drunk that long. Yeah. I mean, you can. But you got to let your cast dry out for a little while. Yeah. You have to let like drama build. Yes, exactly. Thank you, Emily. You look gorgeous. You look gorgeous. Emily and I are in gorgeous California and we are heading right into gorgeous Rhode Island. What a delightful geography lesson to just be there. I know nothing about Rhode Island. I've never been there. I know it's the smallest state in the country. I had no idea that people were marrying their relatives according to Liz. That's and you know, maybe there are more there though. They just don't know about. But I had no clue, you know, how thick his thieves they were over there and and they are so protective and, you know, proud of being from their state. And I did define that interesting. I don't know which brunette said it. But one of them said that like, if you're not from here, you know, that's a problem. Yeah, one of the brunettes. Yeah, one of the brunettes. Having a Mormon wives issue with same one that I had with Mormon wives where I'm like, I am not going to clock these heads for four episodes. Absolutely not. We have a chart in front of us. Emily stole from someone on the Internet. Shared it with me. I read it. Yes. I'm friends. And basically we do have their pictures and their faces. But what I have an issue with is why they have Liz's very old like first face instead of her current face. This is the face that we saw. Delores face. Her Dolores face. What Liz Liz is the Dolores face. Right. But on this graph. Yeah. It I'm sorry on this chart. It has her old face before she fully morphed into Dolores, which is confusing. So it's like, I'm looking at all these pictures and I'm like, but that's not even, she's not on the cast right now. This is her old face. Right. Cause look it, I'm going to show it with the tier two drama moms and papa C. Liz McGraw. That's her old face. Like that's before. But even with her current face from the, and we've only watched the first episode, but from her current with her current look, I had to look again at who she was from the beginning of the episode to the fourth of July party. I was like, wait a second. Who is this? Wait, did something change before she got to the report in the July party? I don't know. I will say that these guys will, yeah, they will change a makeup look and it really does transform their face. So that is absolutely true. And I've always stood by that Emily. Cause when people are very quick to be like, they've had a nose job, they've had this done, they've had this done. And I'm like, you know what, let's just take a beat and just appreciate what makeup can actually do. Right. Now all that aside, there's a lot of work that's been done, but Liz has shared Dolores's like surgeon and doctors and all this stuff. That's why they look so similar. I mean, they're dentists. They both have the same veneer person. They both have the same guy who did their face and they met at a weed convention when Frank Catania was getting into the business. Yes. And I sounds like Liz and her husband got in at the ground floor of all that because now I think it's a lot harder to think it should ton of money. Absolutely Emily. Yeah. And isn't that amazing. Thank you Amy. No, Emily. Thank you. You're gorgeous. Oh my God, you look gorgeous. You're gorgeous, California. I am so impressed by it. I love it. I also thought it was really cute that Liz is like, you know, when we got married, I didn't, she basically became a stepmom to three girls and she didn't know, you know, anything, pick up, drop off, you know, all this stuff. I thought it was so fun hearing her story about becoming like an instant mom and having the responsibility of three girls. It's a tremendous amount of work. I thought that was really sweet. And that red dinghy that she drives across that water, maybe it's an inlet. I don't know. I'm just shooting from the hip. I'm just shooting from the hip. Okay. You look gorgeous. Oh my God, you look gorgeous. We'll see. We're going to figure it out. But that red dinghy was amazing. And it was definitely, you know, Luann's like, I started that. I started it and I finished it, darling. Because remember when Derit, like, you know, that footage, that epic footage of Derit smoking in the car down like Mulholland or whatever, or Laurel Canyon. The second that everyone was celebrating Derit smoking, I don't know if you noticed this, but in Luann's social media, every post was like, I smoke. Da da da. Smoking. I've always been smoking. Did you notice that? I didn't, but I mean, that totally is like, me me please, me me, me me, me me, me me, me me, me me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, Lulu Lulu Lulu Lulu Lulu Lulu. That's the way that we say LOL now, you guys, in case you didn't know, if you're just joining us for the first time, welcome in. We say LOL by LULU L, that's one of Emily's specials. It's the joke of the year. It's the Joke of 2026 for me, the LUL. I told you that when it happened, so, but there's plenty of time for that to be booted out by someone else. Yes, get on it, everybody. Let's get it out of there. No. Get it out of there. So anyway, she got that dingy and she's just shit talking, you know, the sugar baby Kelsey at that lunch and it's great. Oh, that's fascinating to me, the whole Kelsey thing. Is that wild or what? Yeah, also I fully sign off on traveling with a towel in the summer when you have shorts and sitting on a towel. Oh. Because my legs, like when she was like, I gotta sit on an apk and her towel is like, thank you. Like that is my summer. Because of the sweating or because of the hot seat? The lines. Yeah, when you get up from a seat and it just like pulls your skin off. No, we can't do that. Yeah, that's what I fully sign off on that. Anyway, you probably bring like a whole fold up mat thing. Oh, you don't know that. I know, I do know actually, pretty damn good. My girl, we were out to drinks and she's all, I'll be right back. She's got her bathroom hook that she used. She's like, she has her hook out. She's like, which is so brilliant, you know? So you don't have to touch the handles. Yeah. The metal hook I bought on Etsy that you put on your key chain and it opens like refrigerator doors at the supermarket. Oh, I thought you're using it at home. I'm like, all right, we have a problem. It hooks onto every handle that you could ever not want to touch. You know, you could just wear gloves. The COVID, the pandemic's over. I just want my metal hook. So people think I have a key that opens everything up. Hang on, I got a key. I got a key to the city. We're gonna get you a key to Rhode Island. You look gorgeous. Oh my God, look at that hook. Wow. Can you imagine Emily meeting? Oh my God, she's got her own monogram mat to sit on and a hook to grab things. You're fucking amusing, I love you. Oh, they would love you. They would let, you know who they would love? Marilyn Demily. Not, they would love you, but they would love Marilyn Demily a little more. I don't know. These gals are like, they are Jersey, but they think they're not. That's what I love about them. They think they are royalty. They do, that is so true. And that's what it is. You're so right. You cracked the code. Yeah, that's what's so great. Rhode Island is the most exclusive fucking place on earth with the classiest broads in the world. Deal with it. I'm married to my third cousin, okay? I have $400 million. It's like, okay, we're on your planet now. We are, we've been transported. No, it's insane. Like Kelsey is a kept woman. That's wild to me. Wait, doesn't she? For my Ms. Rhode Island. Okay, yeah. Did he pay for that? Cause she said I wouldn't have been Ms. Rhode Island without him. Well, yeah. And of course I'm thinking, oh, he like encouraged her. He, you know, built her up. But now I'm thinking, well, when do you pay somebody, you know, with his connections and stuff? Yeah. But wait, doesn't that give you Joe vibes from Orange County season one when she was a kept woman inside of Slade's house? Yes, except I love that Kelsey's like, and then when he's not here, he's in Miami and he has another girlfriend there. It's like we finally are having this. Yeah. But Emily don't realize Slade was living somewhere else with another girlfriend. So that's actually. But I don't think she's kidding. I'm joking. You know, I'm totally joking. No, that's such a joke. Allegedly not true. And totally joking. Okay. I don't want to get sued by Slade. I don't want to get sued by Slade. I don't want to get sued. I don't want to get sued by Slade. I don't want to get sued. I don't want to get sued by Slade. I don't want to get sued. Before the housewives and what we watch, Joe walked so that Kelsey could run into this whole new decade of life, which is the modernized non-monogamy. Not monogamous. And then they do throw the word polygamy around, but that's not what this is. No, it's not. No one's in the house with her. Come on. But like also this is going to air on Sunday nights, which is really fun. So we're just kind of doing broads, darks right now, but then we're going to be able to hop back in next week for it. You know who I also love is like sleepy Alicia. I'm beat down. I got 8,000 aunts who want me to get married. I don't even care anymore. I don't care. She's... What's up with her? She's hilarious. I know because she doesn't say anything right. She's like a Ramona. She's like a Ramona. Sanda. James, wait, was it James, Fonda or James? She's like James addiction. I love this. I love getting my James addiction on. I love her. And they've got character errors. They have character errors over there. Emily, the stations at Joe Allen's fourth of July party are exquisite. We should do a side by side of stations compared to like Heather Dubrow's. Joe Allen's fourth of July party. We've got... Caviar. I don't know what fourth of July is, by the way. That's remarkable. Is she the one that doesn't know? Or is it someone... She's the one. She's hosting the party but thinks it's about... Oh yeah, she's like Plymouth Rock. It's like, you know, school of rock where you learn the ABCs and how to sing with Jack Black and we discovered America. That's what she's like. Okay, so her stations. Caviar, Wieners. Oh, that sounds really delightful. Kathy Hilton might even partake. Canole Station. Hello. And a Kerkaturkaturkaturk station. Kerkaturkurkurkur. Kerkaturkurkurkur station. Now, if you were to look at like Heather Dubrow's, it's like a monogramming station. Like a caviar bump station with a to-go caviar tin. You know, you're gonna be looking at a lot of more elevated, I would say, understated and elevated stations. But you know what? We should do, we should have like a poll over on Patreon. Like which stations would... Okay, let's think about this. It'd be like, which stations would you wanna go to? Like the Caviar Wiener, Canole, Kerkaturkurkur station, or like a permanent jewelry, palm reader, monogram station. What would you do, Emily? Well, Heather's would be the better. I mean, when you put it like that, would you rather get hit in the face with a baseball bat or have a massage? You decide, we're gonna run a poll. You look gorgeous. You look gorgeous. Oh my God, you look gorgeous. Irresponse, well, Heather's if I'm anything else but alive. I mean, what other answer is there? I gotta tell ya, I love a Canole. I am interested in a Canole station only because I would want to choose whatever toppings. That sounds interesting, but I 100% agree. I'm going over to Dubrow's. I'm going over to Dubrow's. Okay. Okay. Oh, you know who has elevated the Kerkaturk space? Is drunk. Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's done that, Amy? Thank you for asking. Barry Larson. Hmm? Who? Jim Davis. Those are the two animator. Yeah. No, I'm like, wait, I know who that is. No, on social media it's drunk drawn. They are in our Bravo world. You know what I'm talking about? They do all of it. They're like caricatures. That's how I see his work, but elevated because there's so much more to it. That is art. It's art, but do you see what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I agree. I agree. OK, so I think that's really interesting. I was swiping through Drunk Drone's carousel. Try and say that, guys. Try and say that, Alicia. And it was from the valley. And he's got some savage ones of like, Lala's great. The one of Zack is nuts. And then like, Brittany's is like, I got the sparkle back. And he spelled it like, S-P-O-R-K-L-E. And she's like, in a starfish position, like jumping up. It's really funny. Anyway, let's get back over to Rhode Island. So we had like a picnic. And then we had a Fourth of July party. Now, before we get to the picnic, I loved seeing Ashley I from Bachelor Nation and Jared at Frickin' Audrey's coffee place with him working. I mean, we love someone who works. And so, and with somebody with business. Not taking a break for the cameras. We're going to order up right here. Order up. Sorry, Chris is waiting for his ice. Chris, I loved it so much. I am confused because she's saying that they really don't need the coffee shop. And because they could both be influencers and make a ton of money and do. However, it seems like he really wants this. And like, he also hates it. I'm just confused by it. Right. Well, let me, I speak Rhode Island. So let me explain to you. I'm kidding. I don't know, Emily. No. So I think it's interesting because I do think that he's at his wit's end with this coffee place. I think she is also. Clearly, she was drawn to tears. Yeah. At the, I mean, I was like, all right, that's a little much. But OK. I can't believe you always have to be at Audrey's. It looks so stressful. And you know, it's a coffee shop. So he's got to get there at four in the morning. Well, somebody does. He doesn't always have to. Somebody does. At least when she said that when they got it started, 100%. He's going to be working like she said, 100 hours a week. No doubt. I mean, I, but. But at this point, he can have somebody open and close. But also it depends if you're the kind of person that would never want to trust somebody. And I get that too. So I think the great thing is that she's on this show. And they will now be able to get back into the world of influencing. I think this will be a great segue into, you know, promoting their business, maybe making more money, outsourcing some things and then also. Keeping their fingernails on while they're filming. Oh, did she lose a fingernail? I didn't see it. She was peeling her fingernails off onto her laptop. That conversation when she's sitting there waiting for her camera, for her coffee, she's just peeling her nails off into a pile under a laptop. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. Well, you know what? That's shocking considering that she's come from reality TV. She should know better. I kind of loved it. It was disgusting, but I was like, yes. But you got to know what not to do on camera. That's really gross. It was really gross. Right. Wow. But it felt very normal. It immediately humanized her to me in a way that I don't know her from anybody. And when I knew that there was somebody from Bachelor Nation on there, I was like, well, this person's going to know. They're just going to be, I'm not going to probably be into them right away because they're going to be so ready for reality. And then I see those like they were the least reality of all time. They were. And in fact, well, she's not from Rhode Island. She's from Virginia. Right. And the interesting thing is it's nice that she has clout because coming in with her status of Bachelor because I don't think that they would be that welcoming to her. Yeah. Oh, for sure. She wouldn't be on the show. She wouldn't be on the show. Right. No. Like, of course. But I do love that dynamic and I really like her a lot. Rosie, she's not a newscaster. She's a traffic and weather person. Okay. Was. Right. Okay. She was. Love that. I love that. And I love that she's like anyone over 50 knows who I am. If I'm not recognized on a daily basis, it hasn't been a good day. I love that everyone's like, my grandfather loves you and it's awesome. She is so perfect. Like, you know, when you watch those people on TV, you're always like, I wonder what their life is like. It's nice to see an actual traffic and weather person in real time. I am excited about this. I'm surprised that Bravo hasn't tapped that sooner. Yeah. For the weather and traffic people. I agree. Jumping into this show, it's like it's a train that was already moving and we're just jumping on. You know what I mean? Exactly. Because it's all these relationships. They all know each other for the most part, right? Well, I, you know, Ashley's not at that fourth of July party, so I'm thinking that that Lupin hasn't, she might not know everybody in the group. Yeah. She's on the outs a little bit. Okay. But it does seem like these, there's a lot of history. I forget who was fucking the tanning booth owner and wife. I think it was Kelsey that Joe Wellin has known her whole life. Like, Joe was like, oh yeah, she was fucking the, we both worked at the same tanning salon. Everything happens, the tanning salon. That's where Kelsey met her sugar daddy. That's the place where she met him. Yes. They met at a tanning salon party. Yes, they exist. And that's where they made out for two hours. Oh, I, okay. I didn't realize that. No, because they didn't say it on, I just saw it online somewhere. Okay. But Emily, when you said the tanning salon thing, I was like, it, this all stems, if you were to look at a family tree, the tanning salon would be right in the middle. Beach pail, the one that we named in Maryland, we named a beach pail. Remember? Oh yeah. Beach pail. Beach pail. Beach pail. So you got your tanning salon in the middle and then you've got all the branches that come out of it. Yeah. It's a family tree. Can someone please, can a darling, please create a family tree? The tree is actually a tanning salon. Okay. Where there's like a tumor, a cancerous tumor. Oh, Jesus Christ. From skin cancer in the middle and it just spreads its tentacles through the skin. Get your skin checked. Consumption. You're right. Get your skin checked. Okay. But for the graphic. I am a friend that cares. Okay. They're going to kick you out. Emily, you think that you care about them and I know that you do, but they're going to kick you right out of Rhode Island because you don't belong there. And neither do I. Okay. Oh my God. They'd be like, she is beaming white. She is the, the sun has a right. They'll tan off me because I am so white. I will look like the sun. I just can't believe how much we've talked about tanning salons and like on this show because now, I mean, obviously it's probably turned into spray tan and also just real tan, right? Or is it, are they so tan that it's done for the rest of their lives? I'm worried about Liz. I'm just going to say that. I'm worried about Liz. Okay. She's at that fourth of July party. I'm concerned about her skin. Yeah. She had her hair pulled back and you can see some of like the damage without the, you know, when they, when you go to a dermatologist and they look and I'm like, I'm seeing the picture that you would get at the dermatologist. With the special light. Right. You're seeing the actual. But I'm seeing it at the camera. Yeah. Because it's such, it's HD quality. It's like 4k and we have done a, we've done a scan. I actually hope that one of the events that they go on would be to get their skin checked. I mean, I actually think, and I'm not even joking. Like that would be a great idea. Kyle does it. We, Teddy, I mean, Teddy has laid the foundation for all of us. Thank God with her, her skin cancer and, and everything she's gone through with her tumors and the journey that she is on. I mean, she is absolutely doing God's work, you know, with like getting the word out there. I think that she systematically sharing her story. And that's why I think Real Housewives platform can be so positive is that I guarantee you that hundreds of people from seeing what she's going through have probably saved their own lives by getting her skin checked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So let's say road island. Yeah. I look, I have been to the tanning beds. I tanned my ass off in up until like I was 20. So it's coming for me. I get it. But I'm also may not be coming for you. I've, I've called. I said, I'm here whenever you're ready. What is happening? I don't know. But we, but now I get my niece and all of her friends sunscreen. I yell at them when they go out for good UV days. I'm like, guys, take it from me. Hmm. Don't do it. But you've had your skin checked and you're fine. We'll see. You little son of a bitch. You get your ass to that dermatologist. No, of course I am. Oh, okay. I'm saying I, I'm saying I'm fine today, but I don't think that we're granted. Oh, absolutely. I hear you and that's smart. And you know what? Let's all let every week on Sunday nights at eight o'clock on Bravo TV, be a reminder to all of us to protect our skin and be smart. Okay. Yeah. And then there's some people like tan mom, who it just doesn't, all the UV you can handle and she's fine and live in life. So, you know, who knows? I will never understand this life. All right. Let's talk about Rhode Island. So, okay. So we're at this picnic. Now here's what I want to say about the picnic. When you've got someone who's like, I'm the chief salami officer of charcuterie creations, there's nothing else you need to do for the rest of the season in order for me to be committed to the show. I am in 100% and that was just a one lady that was going to come in and come out. But you've already presented a chief salami officer at a company called charcuterie creations. Mike drop. Thank you. This is what we've been waiting for. Gorgeous. Gorgeous Rhode Island. Also the fact that one of their husbands, I think makes his living being a Sinatra singer. Oh, right. Not an impersonator. I kind of get, I kind of get like why he'd be offended. But at the same time, I'm like, but you're just doing Sinatra. Then what do you expect? And then I'm also like, it is Jersey. It is crazy that he's this guy in Rhode Island. Like that is so Jersey, New York to me that you can make your living doing that. Like that. No, that's one job he has. Didn't you hear? Didn't you hear? What is, what are his other jobs? Okay. She said, wait, whose husband is she? I don't even know who we talk. Who we talking about? This is traffic girl. Oh, okay. Um, and they've known each other Rosie. Yeah, this is rich. Yeah, rich, rich. The Frank Sinatra singer, cover singer, not impersonator. Right. There is a difference. He's not like trying to put on the, the costumes and the look like him and sing exactly like him. Right. But, you know, who cares? Okay. She's like, he's got a lot of jobs. I care, Amy. The fail is wrong with you. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, Emily. You guys, let's take a second. Just a second. Okay. Pull yourself together. We are on air. I care. You better stop it. You better look alive. Have a caviar wiener. Okay. You ate them all. We are back. Stop it. Be a good girl. Slug. Oh my God, I forgot we have to talk about ladies of London. You cow. You're a bitch and a cow. I didn't mean it, darling. I didn't mean to say that your brother was murdered was like not that big of a deal. Don't take it personally. Please. There's a momentary talk of crushed velvet. Just a momentary. So just don't wear that, darling. The rest is fine. Yeah. I mean, we can just get right into ladies of London. Right? Or should we? Okay. No, I guess we've got. Hold on. I just want to say it's a mom. A pizzeria is amazing. Oh, yeah. That's Elise. Yes. That's Billy, her husband Billy, who's like, we are the crackers. Hey, we're the crackers. She's like, calm the fuck down. All right. I'm trying to make something here. God, what's my life? Oh, and I love that she's like my daughter. She loves Britney Spears. And I love Britney Spears. So we get along famously. Like whatever, whatever it takes, baby. Yeah, I know we mentioned it, but I need her aunts in like every scene. Her aunts are great. Her aunts are great. She's like, I know how much longer I'm going to live. I'm dying right here. You better get married in the backyard. Oh, no, no, wait, hold on. I'm going to live another hour. Move to a better location and get married there. Yeah, yeah, do for your aunts. All right, give me some of that charcoots. Yeah, they better get their own show. I would I mean, they don't even need their I just need like a candy burst style spinoff of just the aunts for like a special like a four episode ski trip with just the aunts putting on skis. We don't even need to leave the lodge. You I'll go, but if you only get married on the slopes, it'll be gorgeous. We'll do a praise skis. You look gorgeous. I got you. Look gorgeous. You know that that's the answer, right? Saying that. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So there you go. All right. Is there anything else we need to talk about with this amazing new franchise? Rhode Island. Well done. I didn't know I needed it. I didn't either, Emily, but you know what? It just goes to show how much we've been, we've been through it with Jersey, you know, and we have and we've had Jersey in every way because it's not even like we've been on the shore. This is like it's it's Rhode Island. It's perfect. Waterways, Salamis. Yeah. Tan tanning. Uh, I got to tell you. Our marriages, open marriages. Yeah. 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We have this rental and we're going to make it all these fun colors. Do let me ask you this. So do you think that the rental, I thought that the rental just came like that. I don't think that they designed it or decorated it like that. I think it just came like that. She didn't do it. It came like that. Yeah. Okay. You know, so often with these Airbnb's or these kind of like high end rentals, it's all right. I see what you're saying. Beige and white and you like the fact that the owners did it. Got it. Yeah. Well, those steps. Oh my God. Those stairs. I mean, I get that it's old school to put the nursery up upstairs. I get it, but she's Louise. That's a lot. It is. She was out of breath because she was carrying her child too, but still like she's in good shape. She's out of breath. I'm like, oh my gosh, she's going to be in the best shape of her life. Like that's going to be so hard to deal with. I would not want to live there. She can work on that below deck down under boat when this is done. For sure. And she might, she might. You never know. You never know where her acting career is going to take her. With Daisy. She's going to come on on, come on board. Come on, Margo. Margo, Margo, clean the heads. Get the panty liner out of the closet. The panty liner. Oh my God. I love that her daughter, she was like, what's your favorite color? She's like black. She's like, oh, okay. Nothing at all. She's like, is it just goes to show humanity is going to like go against what's in their face or like, I don't like everything that's in my face. You know, isn't that interesting? Yeah, that is interesting. Yeah. She's like, I can't, it was probably too over stimulating. So she was like, black, get my eyes off of this. This is too much to take in. So there's a potty. Wait a second. I have to ask you something. Please. Why in the hell did you text me at 1130 to ask me if I was up? What? I want to know if you want to come over. Okay. I did. Well, you lost your chance. Okay. Um, I love ladies of London. Okay. I do. But here is where what I realized last night, however, you just, you're going to have to take it with a grain of salt because the girl was on a little bit of a gummy. Okay. Okay. I took my gummy. Okay. Loomi, codrama. All right, guys. So I am watching this and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so acted. Everyone is acting. So everything is acting, acting, acting, acting. And then you've got like 2%. No, I'm going to give it to, cause like, I think that there are living situations and there are home situations and everything around them is all like totally real. So I obviously that's an immediate 5% reality right there. Everything in between the actual, other than when they're fighting is completely set up. Is it enjoyable to me? Absolutely. What do you think is set up? I know, I know, I know, I know you're not going to agree. We have now flipped because usually I'm the one that's like, Amy, get your head out of your ass. He's sweet summer child. A man is a fucking fraud. Did someone say summer? Summer moon. Summer moon. Watch the moon landing last night. She knew they're not, they're not landing on the moon. Summer moon saw a shuttle. But now I am saying, I think, I believe it, cause I think I'm comparing it. The baseline is Vanderpump Villa, where it's like very scripted and crazy performative. Yes. This isn't that. So, but I do think it is. The difference is, is that at least in my opinion, okay, is that they're just way better at doing it. Margot is an actor, so she's really good at it. Mark is so seasoned. It's ridiculous. He knows how to do it, what not to do, when to do it. And Martha is an actress also. So again, I don't think that every single moment is acting, but I absolutely think that they are being told in the interim scenes, like even with Kimmy, where she's like, how's your crazy bird? And then she starts like talking about Martha and she's like, her style is just ridiculous. However, her accent is, you know, and they're just like ragging on her out of nowhere. And Martha's like, stop doing that. Come on. You know, it's like it's very put on until it isn't. And that's where it gets a little bit real. Okay. See, I think they're very posh. I think they're, I just think this is them culturally. And it's a little bit more reserved and less sensitive. And that's like, as a culture, that's what they are. Yeah, I don't, I agree that that's probably how they are as a culture. But I do think it's pushing in when Martha is sticking up for her friend, you know, I, she's obviously getting really exasperated. But then when Kimmy and Martha are in each other's faces and she's like, because you're always like, I'll take bitch. And she's like, Kimmy has a moment and she starts crying. Well, I mean, she's completely drunk. Okay. So I do believe that that was real because she was drunk and crying. But I think that everything, you know, it gets murky because it, that's how reality television works. It's like, you kind of sort of have to put a structure up and you have these bullet points that you're supposed to deal with. And then somebody does something that goes beyond what maybe the plan is. And then it gets like real. And that's where it's good. So for example, I don't think that. Margo had any idea that she was going to find out that Mark said these things about her, that she was acting. But I think that Mark was ready is in his position and he had his stuff to say, well, I heard that somebody said that she's a diva and she's just playing a role. I'm like, okay, well, that was obviously set up, you know, so, but what's real is Margo's reaction and she's going to be genuinely offended. And she probably didn't expect that from Mark because, and so now it's going to get real. So that's where I am. We don't need to, I don't think we should argue back and forth, but that's, those are the examples that I have. Oh, I do. And I do. Darling's buckle up. I absolutely really love and enjoy this show. And I will continue watching it, but I don't know. Because it is in its infancy stages, they, it is overly produced, unfortunately, but it's working. Now this is the, what I'm talking about now has nothing to do with the first episode and two where what's your name here. Yeah. That's totally separate. I completely believe that. Yeah. Yeah. That's to me. Not because of that. That's why I have a much easier time. Believing everything others. Yeah. I agree. But see, it took me, it took my gummy to open my eyes when I was tripping. Yeah. Man. Yeah. Seeing the light, man. Well, I watched it sober and I believed everything. Well, sometimes you need to break down those walls to see something different because I've now watched it sober and stoned. And tonight, who knows what's going to happen? I know what's going to happen. Mama stoned again. No, I don't do it every night. I can't. Oh, she does, darling. Every night, especially when it's a she's going to get those Easter eggs out. I don't know places Maddie's never heard of. Loomi, coat drama. Not even a sponsor this week. Okay. But anyway, Kimmy being like, where's your loyalty at? And, you know, in Martha's face is kind of ridiculous. But I did love the moment when they that they had at the end. I thought that was very real. And she's like, oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't know you got that much about me. So that was great. Don't forget that also, like when Mark, when Mark go, is standing there getting like caught at like, like two crows, Kimmy and Mark. I would have been in tears. But Mark was just taking it and she was super jet lagged. So I thought, man, yeah, maybe she's on something right now that she's just like staring because she didn't know what to do. Yeah, she was in shock. I don't think that she knew that was coming. Or to handle it and jet lagged. I another reason I'm fully in is because like, if I they were at that moment, we're like weird Ryan Murphy characters to me, Kimmy and Mark. And if I saw that in a Ryan Murphy show, I wouldn't believe it. Right. Believe it here. But it's not real. It's not fully real. Believe it. They are not real. You're not real. OK, can you you're going to be a great real housewife because you got to have you have to be able to have a conversation and get a hundred percent upset. Can you listen? I believe that these are real characters that are unbelievably charismatic and they are those people to their core. You're projecting. Do you think? Stupid. You're a liar and a malicious despicable person. Mark is not like walking around and talking to everybody the way he talks like this. He's not like, I need to go to the grocery store to get something. Like he'll be like, I need to go to the grocery store to get something. You know what I mean? He's going to be a little bit more understated all the time. He's not going to be putting it on as hard as he is on this show. Oh, you look so. Well, yes, that's my point that Kimmy is heightened. Everyone's heightened because they're doing a job. And that's not to say that in other franchises in other cities, they're not heightened. They are. However, the difference is, is that they're a new reality show and they have to put a, the producers are making them put a very big structure around them so that it doesn't fail. So they're giving them a lot of script and lean into this, talk about that so we can piece this together the right way and build it to what it is. And I think that it's not saying it's a wrong thing to do. I'm just saying I can see through it. Kaka counterpoint counterpoint. Amy is wrong, darling. Thank you. No, we can't keep talking about it over and over again. We just can't pull it. Put that in your pole and smoke it. Oh my God, she is lit up. I got to go. I'm going to Costco. You think that I didn't know that this is going to create some problems? Oh, I did. God, I didn't call you at 1130. I wouldn't have slept. No, I know. Actually, you're right. It's it's probably better. You didn't call me. We got a pet psychic already. I wasn't happy about that. Oh, right out of the game. It didn't, it wasn't a good, it didn't really garner anything. Magpie facts. They like to play. Look, I, I kind of tell you, I'm a sucker for a magpie fact. But also I'm confused because why was it going to peck out Kimmy's eyeballs? And now everybody can walk bare out like with naked eyeballs around her apartment all of a sudden. Well, because they weren't going to invite the magpie Harkati or whatever his name is, Hercati. So that's the reason why I'm going to be here. It's a, it's a woman. Hey, cutie. Heck, that magpie is a woman. No, it's not. It's a girl because she said it was her mom reincarnated. Oh, that's right. I'm so sorry. I think I woman. I think I was too stoned to take that in. Cutie was when she's invited over to your shoulder and your stranger, you want to put on the goggles. But I don't think that that bird is going to land on you like willy nilly on its own and less told to. So that's why she's like, put on the goggles so that, so you can get a proper introduction. Got it. Okay. I see. Okay. Thanks for taking me, taking my information. And I appreciate that for the first time ever. Oh, wait. It was really interesting to find out that Emma's scan, the second scan showed that it didn't grow her tumor. Yeah. That is like really concerning to me and very confusing. Well, I mean, that it happens. So you have to add that's why, you know, being an advocate for yourself is. But who would have had the thought to say, do the scan again? Like, I don't believe it. Do the scan again. And so she would have walked away and thought this for the next like three to four or six months until she has another scan. And that's terrible. Yeah. I mean, or I thought maybe to that point, I thought, well, surely they were going to be, gosh, would they have started treatment as though that tumor was that huge? No, they said that they were going to watch it. Right. And then do the scan again. Right. They would have thought she had done something to shrink the tumor. You know what I mean? They would be like, what do you do? While those gels that Micah got you for your run must have shrunk your tumor. Yeah. No, that was good news. I was happy about that. Speaking of those, those gels, like the heating thing that you put on your leg for a cramp or something like that, because you run, would you appreciate that? Yeah. She gave her gels to eat, like the energy gels. I didn't see the gels to eat. What are the energy gels? That was that first thing she opened and that was blurred, but she held it up and are kind of blurred. She's just out of focus and she was, and it was in every shot. And I was like, well, what is the brand? Yeah. There are no brand deals. So that's not getting in. So it's a gel like pill. Like energy gel. Like in foil that you like, you know, you've never seen that before. Yeah, they've been around for a minute. I don't do anything like, I don't do anything like that. I'm not into like taking stuff. Loomi code drama. Loomi. Yeah, no, I know. But I also really like the other gift she gave her, which is like a small little warmer that you can put on your leg if you have a cramp. So of those things, Emily, as a runner, would you appreciate those from Micah? Micah? I would like the gels, please. Oh, really? Yeah. We're doing old school wheel fortune and I get to pick my prize. Okay. With I will take the gels for $300. Okay. And I will take the running shorts that I don't know if they're going to shave, so I'm not going to wear them for the race. Thank you. You're welcome. But I, the warmer that I was like, there's a lot to carry with you. I was thinking that too. I was like, she ain't going to take these because you got a deal like, I have all this stuff on me. Like, where am I going to put it? Yeah, especially for 26 miles. Man, thanks. Have you run, have you run a full marathon? I've run a couple. I've run several and I will never do it again. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. For me personally, it became a not good thing because it became like an obsessive thing, but that's why I, my limit is like maybe a 10 K and I try to keep it casual because I do like running. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it gets kind of obsessive and for me personally, it was, it ended up being like too much. Well, good for you that you, you figured that out. And I always admire people who can commit to something like that. It's just amazing. Yeah. For me to a point. Um, but if you aren't going to go hard with like full marathons, I'm sorry, you've lost your chance with Aaron from the Valley. Cause he really wants a fitness girlie. Are you going to be okay? No, I'm not. Can you take a break? Oh no. Here we go again. All right. Hold on. I cry over Aaron. You know, he'll never really see you even though he sees pretty well. He never closes eyes. Yeah. He doesn't have eyelids. Just keep swimming. Um, all right. So Edwardian, my fair lady, love the theme. So great. Love the party. Oh my God. Wonderful. Missy is just so funny to me cause she's like, my boobs are always out. And she doesn't want Kimmy to be mad at her cause she loves Kimmy so much. So she's like in her confessional, she's always like, um, oh, I hate her so much. She's so rude to me, but she's so funny. I just, I just can't help it. And like, she just says all these funny things where she's constantly contradicting herself cause she can't not, she cannot be mad at Kimmy cause Kimmy's so fun and like interesting. See, I think she's afraid of Kimmy. Oh, I think there's something there. I think she's afraid of Kimmy like saying the shit she says. And Missy just wants to stay on her good side. Well, that's another way to look at it. Yeah. Mika, losing Mika close to losing her license is hilarious. I can't imagine that's so hard. And I love that we started the episode. Like, do they drive? And last week was like, where do they live? I just, I like the format. They've really figured out a beautiful format for this show. And, oh my God, I told you, I like the show just because I have some. Yeah. Scripted. Very scripted. Very scripted. Okay. Okay. This show is called Amy points out all the strings. That's right. I'm the puppeteer, baby. And I know where the strings are. I've been the puppet and the puppeteer and the puppeteer. As Alicia said, I will also say I hate a gender reveal party, but the way they did it in Ladies of London. I was so chic, so chic, so gorgeous. Just a cake. Oh, and the way that she introduced the flavors. Oh, please. A forest didn't burn down. A city didn't have to burn down. If anything, she will probably be the next host to replace Pru on Great British Bake Golf because she was so good at it. Yes. I would have seen Josh and Noel as a couple. Oh, what? You don't, Josh is married. Well, I'm just to say, this is a new day, baby. Everybody's open now. Just because he's a feminine doesn't mean that he's gay, Emily. Okay. I, I can wear you. You said you wanted to see Josh and Noel as a couple. Okay. Oh, as friends. Gender. Here's the reveal. I'm repeating what you texted me. Don't you dare repeat the things I text you. Don't you fucking dare. Get you. Stop yelling at me in front of the Darlings in front of the Darlings. The Darlings are watching. They're listening. You disgusting. Okay. Gender reveal. Amazing. So great. Yeah. So cute. And I love the, I'm sorry, Lottie being like, can you imagine the little suits? I know. I honestly, well, I'd like the sounds of the pink cake better than the blue cake. Cause I was hoping for that just for the flavor palette. I was like, well, you wanted a girl. Yeah. Totally. I'd be like, can we still get that cake? Yeah. Is that cake available? It's that in the back. Did you see at the end of that episode, though, they dedicated it to her dad. So I think that he must have passed away, which was sad. Lottie's dad. Mm hmm. Oh man. Cause she said that he had cancer. Yeah. That's right. Shoot. Yeah. Oh, I don't know when it happened, but that was just dedicated to him. I'm glad you told me that. I did not realize that. Mm hmm. Oh my goodness. Um, the two parties that were going on real quick before we wrap up, I just want to say, cause there was one at Margo's home, you know, um, and then there was, it was Missy and Mika and Lottie. Yes. And then there was one at Emma's house and that was Mark, Kimmy and Martha. And it was just fun to see the different parties and like everything that they're doing. And then with like Margo and her new home and with this wine situation. And then she's like, Oh, I forgot the wine and she brings out what the, that got split. What a, I was so confused. I was offended. Okay. Thank you. I mean, because also it's like, I get that Margo doesn't drink, but I was also, here's the other thing I'm like, well, I can't be that offended because I'm like, gals, you know, she doesn't drink, just bring your own wine. Oh, why are you going to put it on Margo? That's a good point. Um, so, but that when she's like, I found this, which looked like the thing that came with the Airbnb when she rented it as a welcome basket. That's exactly what I was going to say. That's exactly what it was. A hundred percent. She ordered all that food in. She had somebody plate it. And then, uh, that was, she was like, didn't think about any kind of beverage of wine. So she was like, Oh, I've got this. And that's a hundred percent. Chicken was raw. So she did make that chicken, which was confusing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The chicken when she was like plopping it in and then, oh, that's right. The oven. It did. But it was prepared. It was all prepared food. Unlike Emma, I was like so impressed with Emma, like getting in the weeds with everything. Amazing. Yeah. She is no stranger because, you know, long leet that trains you to host and the royal family is you come to do these types of things. Darling. What is up with that husband of hers? And Kimmy being like, there wasn't a towel around. Like she was like, Oh yeah. God for Emma. Because Kimmy, that's remember, she said that she knew Emma's husband from before. Sirian. Sirian. Sirian. No. Sirian. Him. Yeah. But this was the London flat that they were at. Not they weren't at the estate. No. The manor. Right. Which they're going to go to. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Impressive. Very. Remember the real housewives of London went to some, that other woman's estate that she was running from the, the Lord of the Manor. Yes. Right. Right. It, it seems to me, and I clearly have no place to speak on this cause I have no idea. Anything that's fake. Um, I think that all of the castles are fake in London. They're not old. They're not, I'm kidding. I'm so Joe. Did you actually think I was serious? Darling's, this has been edited. I had a yell at Amy for 45 minutes and show her 20 castles and dates and times. And now she's pretending like I believed it. If you, if you put together a presentation of 20 castles and dates, I would love that. Oh my God. I would totally. If I, if I, she's turning around, look at her going. She's got it. You guys, she's pulling out a binder. Here it is. Okay. We'll just pretend the people who are not watching this can believe that she has it. Castles by an author named Clara Bow. It's Monique's binder. You guys. Um, that's hilarious. Yes. The Clara Bow book. I love it. Um, no, you know what I was thinking is that like it's way more common for people to take over in a state and put a lot of money in it to, and open it up to the public to, because it's so expensive to refurbish and to keep going. So you have to open it up to the public in order to fund it, to do the repairs. But like, so I think that it's a little bit more common and maybe easier to get some sort of castle or manner in these areas than we think it is because it is so expensive to keep up. So anyway. Was it at, was it Emma's or Margot's? Oh, now I'm forgetting. Hopefully we see it again. That had the Downton Abbey bells for the downstairs. Did you see that as regular on the outside? Like as their door? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I remember seeing that the close up. Um, and I was like, Oh, those are the, those are for the downstairs. I think it's Emma. Yeah. It must be Emma, but they were like around. I gotta get one of those. Yeah, you do. Cause you actually, that would work perfectly at your place. Oh my God. You actually have it downstairs. Yeah. For my staff, right? The rest of my garage. Well, I think we've covered it. I'm excited to continue. Also add Margot looks, uh, or there was a moment where not Margot, but Kimmy is not wearing all of the red lipstick. She looks great in the red. The light pink. It looked really good. Like she had like drank it off and it looked good. Looks so good. Yeah. I love it. I know I was going back and forth. I'm like, which one do I like more? I don't know. Yeah. Well guys, what a fun romp through Rhode Island across the pond to London. We've done it all here. Emily, Jeresis and I, and if you want more, you can get ad free. And you know, you can watch a video of your tier two and head on over to over the patreon.com slash drama darling for more recaps. Bye. Bye. Such a cow. Drama. I have dare you. Cruella Deville.