$5K LeBron Pull… Then a Jordan Rookie Walked Into the Shop

So I pull a 2003 pristine LeBron James refractor PSA 10 last count 5100 wow this is how you become a degenerate right here this is the path because let me tell you that is ridiculous would you sell that card for an equivalent five thousand dollar Jordan card or a five thousand dollar Kobe card what card do you think has the most upside one is fandom it would be Jordan and number two as an investor Jordan because card draw order a little more rare and all that stuff's going up if you're trading and collecting we all hit Facebook Marketplace occasion basically saw it full 86 flea set with stickers with Jordans looking for offers made the guy an offer and you're truly as a full set of 86 here 86 Jordan rookie and the star that's what makes this industry so awesome there's stories all the time everywhere and so I love that story welcome to the collector nation podcast here on the collector nation network whether you're chasing trails or calling bluffs you take you inside the hobby here are your hosts Ryan offer and Brian look what's up guys welcome to collect your nation the top five sports show on Apple podcasts we appreciate you for the velocity that's what it's about velocity of growth hey that's what we're doing that's what Linux is always doing it's about about the growth of everything what's up Brian what's up my man how you doing I'm good man how was I was a little concerned with you if you would make it through snowmageddon down there I thought I was gonna get a phone call of you like in a closet curled up you know I was one of the few people you know we do we have a range river and those things can go underwater it handled it so I could I actually went to work all I thought I was crazy but let me just tell you the only thing you don't handle is all the craziness of people that don't know how to drive that take all the things off the shelf because they think it's going you know we create scarcity around here it's not real scarcity we create it because everybody thinks they're gonna be locked in for two weeks and we did have back to back storms but it was I don't know it's it's annoying I'll just say that well you made it we made it the kids had fun kids had been out of school like five days you know and I was thinking how I think about you I was Chicago kids shut down like for what we had like imagine Chicago shutting down in the mail man not delivering like because I had a lot of stuff would be the shop opening I got cards coming every other day boxes and stuff it just stops just stops they don't deliver they don't nothing comes nothing nothing and I'm like in a big city does the world just stop if two inches of snow comes no it takes honestly like a foot of snow yeah yeah well we didn't have that we did we probably had four or five inches but you know yeah it's a lot for here we don't have those salt trucks or anything else but we made it through I'll speak in a ripping packs so this week Duke Chon friend of mine started a company called Hay Shop and it's a digital instant pack digital you get the physical if you want everyone knows it's arena club courtyard whatever but this is the kind of a cool it's kind of a cool vibe so he's he asked me to get on there is it H-E-Y H-H-H-Y H-E-Y shop hey shop okay he shop yep yeah and so I get on there and I think one's like I think I did the $450 you went all in on that number 450 I lost that change for Galik you I lost I lost on that one it was I got like a $300 card and I think I sold it back down for 250 okay so that means I'm in for 200 and I do it again so I'm in for 450 and 200 I'm in for 650 I pull a 2003 pristine LeBron James refractor I believe PSA 10 and the last 50 last comp 5100 wow hey guys we here this is how you become a degenerate right here this is this is the path because let me tell you that is ridiculous so you 10x that in that essentially you could get 500 in and 10x that with a $5,000 LeBron James PSA 1003 is that a rookie year yep so what was it oh yeah yeah 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I'm not a big LeBron fan and I don't know why it's just he's not not my guy so yeah would you would you sell that card for an equivalent $5,000 Jordan card or a $5,000 Coby card what card do you think has the most upside Jordan I I and I won't look we've we've been if you've been paying attention listening I grew up with South Carolina boy grew up Chicago where my whole room littered with Chicago so one is fandom it would be Jordan and number two as an investor Jordan because card your older a little more rare and all that stuff's going up and and so I do think it putting to get aside what I'm going to say was it actually going to agree with where you started on this I'm not a LeBron guy so I would do it anyway because I'm not a LeBron guy even if it was like comparable but if I'm giving investment advice I think the Jordan's the way to go because they're just more it's older cards fewer printed you can make the argument that you know some of the LeBron stuff came up in a decent time when they learned you know what they learned had to learn in the 90s which is the over printing and no rare cards and no one-on-ones or you know like refractors and things like that so I do think he's got some great cards that benefited from the technology and printing and you know some of the things that make things more scarce now so you could make that argue but I just think Jordan as long-term vintage in the near five to 10 years all bets are all 30 years now but like five to 10 I think Jordan stuff and Kobe Kobe's kind of the same as Bryant I think Kobe and LeBron are comparable probably tradeouts Kobe has different things that prop him up and fandom and all that is a different player but similar time periods as far as card overlaps I think that becomes a tomato tomato discussion like I think you'd have a hard time like falling on an argument that makes complete sense on one of those of the other but Jordan for me for both desire and investment but that'd be my take I want I'm curious to see what the audience says but the one thing I if I ranked them it'd be Jordan Kobe LeBron because I don't Kobe's not signing anymore cards so it's a you know RIP you know yeah it was a guy so I mean there's that nostalgic part of him where LeBron could be signing cards for the next 30 years but but I think a lot of people would whether it's just memory or not put LeBron above Kobe longevity like as far as a player is the player goes I'm not saying I do necessarily I'm just saying but I think I would bet he's like like Jordan and him fighting out the top and then you get into that Kobe and then others and magic bird like I don't know like like I don't chamberland like I don't know Russell like we get a lot of different things I think I it seems like Jordan and coach in LeBron or kind of I don't think there should be a debate but maybe debate of all time great yeah I see that well I'd like to see in the in the in the messages what is that called message DM yeah yeah DMs DMs or drop comments on drop you think we that thing I love to get some feedback on that and make me an offer if you have a Jordan card or a code that's equivalent I'm I'm all errors dude here we go like we already had people we appreciate you look when you listen and you comment and you pay attention you win we gave away some Lutics we're giving away some Lutics VIP passes to the national already from people that commented so we put our money where our mouths are if you pay attention you comment we want your engagement and look make Brian an offer they can't refuse you know at least uh don't ever pay attention you might have something yeah it's funny that we're talking about Jordan's I didn't you know we were a day of from even getting the store open and I did you know a lot of you probably could relate to this story if you're trading and collecting we all hit Facebook marketplace occasionally right that's where all all good deeds happen right is Facebook marketplace uh and you know what I'm talking about um so basically he had a post he said full 86 flea set with stickers with Jordan's looking for offers well yours truly is always looking for that card and those that's that now they have a shop especially but even before that and I took to bait hey I'm not going to be get scam I ain't sending any money down to China I'm not like pay piling you I'm not been mowing you I'm not cash-apping you before I see something so you can't scam me with just if I waste five seconds sending a message nobody deal I send a message and I say what I always say to people cash buyer no drama uh here's my cell phone number if you ask me to bet on that like the chances that I was gonna get any response from that whatsoever I would have put it at 2% sure enough about 30 minutes later I get a text if it's a North Carolina number I'm in South Carolina North Carolina number and says this is X-Day my won't mention his name I've got the Jordan in the 86 flea sets it's like give me a call and I go hmm the plot thickens so I call them sounds like a normal person but you know A.I. has gotten pretty good Brian the voice of correctors and all that stuff I'm still on the edge of this is this is gone to 10% chance of even materializing to like a legitimate meeting right even look at a card you know I mean 90% chance is still bullshit and coordinated whatever and we threw around some numbers he shared some details I have pictures but don't see him physical you know I'm not guaranteeing anything but we kind of did a little bit of a gentleman's agreement of where we would be at and he's about an hour up the road and he says he would come to me and I'm at the shop and sure enough after about seven delays and enough things to make me think it was never going to happen he walked into my card shop at about 8 15 p.m. him and a buddy and laid it all out in the crappiest Pokemon box I've ever seen he had 86 flea this don't you you can't make this stuff up I was like when he pulled the Pokemon box up it's like a it's like a eTB box or something I'm like it's it's either been kicked down the road I'm like what what are we doing what is this what is in this box is it gone and he's going to shoot me no proceeds to pull out exactly what he said he had a pretty damn good condition full set of 86 flea all stickers all Jordan and an 84 star Jordan on top of that graded by a crappy grading company but clear enough to know that it wasn't counterfeit and hadn't been cut and went through it all and the Jordan was I my good friend Mike Baker I actually hit him some pictures and text he's a lead grader Mike Baker authenticated good guy goes give him some love Mike's coming on the show pretty regular actually talk about the landscape but Mike sent Mike detailed pictures and look if the lead grader PSA can't tell me something then you know what he told me yeah Mike's the man so he told me what he thought he like best case worst case made the guy an offer he went outside of smoke seven cigarettes and came back in and yours truly as a full set of 86 flea 86 Jordan rookie and the star and I would say anywhere from the whole set I would say four to nine four to nine range yeah worst no crease cards no like bubblegum stuck to the front no like nothing that you go like complete mismanagement that's what makes this industry so you know it's awesome there's stories all the time everywhere and and then people want to tell people about it and so I love that story the what we got this well so we got here we got super bowl yes super bowl it is is it a weird super bowl is it because I just don't root free the one of these teams and like that it's weird or it's just weird because media is weird that's either on your radar or off of your radar I mean I haven't like I mean I guess I'm rooting for Seattle but like give me a fricking break I mean the Patriots are like the rebuilding you know and like I'm so sick of them but one of my best for them to be the underdog right it's like yeah it's hard to be like all you know the Patriots of the underdog they had too many two I like this is too fast too so I like when I want to hate a team I think about one of my good buddies or someone I I care about that is a fan of that team and then I can be like well I'm happy for Carlton yeah exactly exactly but I don't have any burdens that are big Patriots fans actually do you have any traditions for look here you know my own traditions are eating a lot of food drinking some beer and watching the commercials like everyone else does but I'll say this I'm an ad guy I've been in marketing holy it's kind of like the Super Bowl of ads so I get a kick out of watching them and dissecting them from most strategy side of going well they overspit or that was a stupid like I don't know so I kind of geek out of me ads more than like yeah they entertain but I kind of geek out of the ads let's lean well you yeah that's what you do though that's great yeah my tradition is I go to bed before the halftime show because my team's never in it I hate that it's on a Sunday it should be on a Saturday yeah I mean and and those games are like five hours long yeah I guess shit I guess shit to do man I know you're CEO I mean it's like what's um talk to me about the Ludic card shop and what's coming up I know that you guys are close here you're moving along what what's on the radar so I just I decided with my partner that we're gonna open the shop February 20th and 21st for sneak peak so just like we kind of run that VIP party at the national we're gonna have like open from 12 to 7 4 to 7 is the ripnight and then after 7 it'll be invite only DJ food drink all that and then close then we're like closing for you know a couple weeks and then what's the date of that that's uh the February 21st is the uh yeah that's what you're gonna have Merrill had the I had to go on on a couple's retreat god I might I can't be tell I'd rather I'd rather I'd rather go on a couple's retreat all right okay hot tub and no mouth it's awesome yeah yeah so it's offered you know I'm just saying yeah so we'll have some people there I think uh well we'll have a fanatics and Beckett and V friends uh just little companies you never heard of just little companies helping the shop yeah yeah we did we just don't we it's like it's probably gonna be like 75% kind of done but good enough to have a party yeah I'm looking forward to that but I hey you got to catch up man I mean clutch station is is open for business officially that's what we sold our first stuff yesterday like I'm gonna I'm gonna exaggerate a little bit but it's close enough I mean we we always did like a thousand bucks first like three hours wow like a little shot of four or five customers and then um that was kind of yet but we haven't really but I have we have it marketed I'm a marketing guy but I haven't market I just turned our website on on yesterday I didn't want people coming in while we were the middle of remodeling and doing it I wanted the store to be ready like at least for the soft opening still working out the tech stuff I got some cool little add on apps I've done just for the store that are uh showing on a lot of monitors and stuff yeah I'm real fucking dangerous right now Brian I don't tech and marketing and the store like getting like uh hold them down to earth man he's gonna get he's gonna be floating up there it's really hard I've just saying like what I get to play with like because you know having your own retail space I always did this for other people you know like the actual selling of things you know and and was pretty good at it so now like bringing it to life and being able to like visualize it within your own retail space it's fun it's less about uh bragging that I'm gonna sell one billion dollars or something it's more like you know dangerous with how many toys I get like implement I would say how much how much how dangerous my with my own budget that's why I was gonna worry what I bet still don't drug dealers don't do your own drugs you're making money dollar sales but 900 000 are you yes on the app I built who uh you know like open a pack for me that's awesome hey guys L U D E X go to the app store down I'll love that I can't let me tell you collection management values linkage with the eBay you want to sell look we all like to collect but let's be honest no one has you know more in depth than me in this hobby like the last couple years with my kids way to make it back is to push those cards eBay you know how you don't lose your mind and your time it's L U D X you got to link it there sell those cards you don't want so you can buy some more and rip them like I do believe me you'll trust me you will thank me later it is the best scanning card app and if you're Pokemon person let me just tell you there's no better it scans one and done every time L U D X Brian I love you brother appreciate you love you my man I always appreciate it brother hey guys the collector 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