PMS 2.0 1535 - Quentin Richardson, Mark DeRosa, Sidney Crosby, Daniel Jeremiah, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the thunder down on this Sydney Crosby Thursday April 16th 2026 this program begins now sports you heard it right okay when the intro happens hello and then I get the name of today's program okay there we try to put a word that is going to probably encapsulate what today is going to feel like as we're chitchatting we've used big-time sports big sports sports in different ways because we know that there's gonna be a variety of sports we've used you know moments events celebrations championships in there before we use masters obviously just a week ago as Augusta kicked off today Sydney Crosby Thursday wow so the kid three times Stanley Cup champion obviously captain Canada is gonna be joining the show he has been a staple in the Pittsburgh region ever since I've been a teenager okay this guy's number is 87 that is his birth year I may second 1987 the Pittsburgh Penguins only team that I really got a chance to go watch as a kid because we could get tickets to go watch them and also they go back to back in the 90s and then again so with him there we are hockey town so the amount of happiness that this guy has brought into my life the amount of joy in celebration and maybe some bears Jack Daniel those days I think we're even doing was that weird one that everybody was captain maybe got more that was kind of the one I think wrong wrong wrong a little too much of that yeah 151 slipped in there a couple different times that was outrageous that's because of this man and what he has done for the city now obviously alongside of Kenny Malkin and Chris LeTang they've been the three stalwarts of the Penguins organization but this man was a LeBron James coming out of Canada whenever he was in high school nobody had a clue who he was in the United States of America unless they were diehard hockey people but as soon as he got to Pittsburgh we thought well we got the next Mario Lemieux turns out he's lefty but he's damn near the same thing in the equivalent of what Mario was for Pittsburgh both business-wise and also to the team he's brought cups there he's brought pride there he's always remained loyal to Pittsburgh even whenever here in the last couple years as he's continued to play incredible hockey 21 straight years averaging at least a point per game that is an NHL record he's been the greatest for the longest in the history of the game and these last couple years our team maybe wasn't ready to go ahead and win a lord though so a lot of people are saying maybe Sid should ask for a trade Colorado which everybody thinks there's a wagon right now with McKinnon he's friends with him he should get traded to Colorado do it for Sydney do it for Sydney and then Sid told us and everybody I'm standing Pittsburgh this is my team I'm only gonna be wearing this penguins is black and yellow on my body as an NHL and it has worked out they got new GM looks like dumbass yeah that is not his name not it is not a do-ness okay they got new head coach obviously dog Danny Muse is his name and he is not amused with what has been happening in Pittsburgh over the last couple years so I was I can't wait to tell Sydney again how much I appreciate him I can't wait to catch up with him and also we head into a series that has potentially defined his entire career as a Pittsburgh penguin the penguins and the flyers have a rally our rivalry naturally just strictly because it's Philadelphia in Pittsburgh that's just gonna happen that's just that's just kind of a part of you know sports culture high school even you're playing a lot of teams maybe from the other side of the state for state championship I mean that that is just kind of throughout all of sport Philly in Pittsburgh always gonna have a natural Keystone State rivalry so Sid has kind of taken that to heart and the way the flyers fans have treated Sid is disgusting like kind of how you would expect them Johns over there to kind of act and said he's just beat the shit out of him I mean he has scored more goals against them than anybody else in the history of playing against a team his series in a playoffs he's this the flyers have yet to want to Stanley Cup since 1970 something certainly not under Sidney Crosby's watch so we are going into a series that starts on Saturday that he is probably very excited about and also one that he predicted last year at big night out whenever he said we got some more runs in us don't you worry we're gonna do this for a couple more years and then he grabbed a football which we didn't know he did that ever in Canada and throws a million dollar ball through a hole 30 yards away that's Sidney Crosby in a nutshell cannot wait to catch up with him it's not just Sid today we got Q Rich joining us here in about five minutes the NBA playing finals for the east and the west have been cemented last night two playing games first one kind of born Philadelphia kind of did their thing second game you fell asleep Steph Curry and Dreymond Green are back like it's seven years ago eight years ago Dreymond Green was a bopping wood all night I mean not just a little bit of bopping of the wood I mean he's long bopping this wood he's going end to end bopping wood on Kawhi Leonard I believe Kawhi had like two or three points in the entire fourth quarter down the stretch as as Dreymond Green decided that he was just gonna lock him up and it wasn't just Kawhi that was obviously suffering from Dreymond Green inbound passes were getting deflected Dreymond was everywhere and him and Steph were running this one too like they used to do in Golden State is all of a sudden a who's who in the playoffs because Steph Curry is going choo choo that thing is absolutely marvelous to watch a nice trip back in time remember just a few weeks ago Steph was injured we didn't know if he's gonna be back he comes back he's gone crazy and after he shoots that shot in the Clippers building the into a dome in front of the wall in front of the wall of fans that bomber put in there to be home that place goes crazy and then goes did echoing yeah yeah you did it yeah yeah yeah goes crazy he's loved there okay now the Clippers I believe it's like five straight years or something I'm not making the past first round of the playoffs and obviously there's a lot of conversation outside of the Clippers that has taken place Dreymond Green affects the inbound pass there because Kawhi couldn't get open now they do a layup I mean it's just it was a masterclass by Dreymond Green really felt like we were in that negotiation office with him for that that punked show right that Anthony Davis is doing he was just punching Kawhi right in the face yeah I mean there was no questions asked absolute beast and now we got a chance to maybe see more Steph Curry the West finals for the play-in game are set the East play-in finals are set and I tell you it doesn't involve oh doesn't involve the Miami Heat or still Pat about what happened right we are not yeah okay he got fine there was also a hey should have been a huh and I'll say you cursed so we're gonna have to find you there the Mellow Ball it does not face a suspension but did hit three different fines I do believe his team which is electrifying now advances to potentially go on to play against who oh the Pistons who to the Hornets hate the Pistons okay who to the Pistons the number one overall seed who do they hate hate I guess the Hornets the Hornets we need the Hornets to do something big over Orlando who from my understanding just look at the internet does not love their Duke representative as a basketball don't know hey go real loud but hey everything to change yeah tonight and then Steph Curry obviously we talked about that in the Phoenix Suns here we go book here we go book it's be a yeah he's paying hundreds of millions of luxury tax players that aren't on his roster right now that's right he's bopping wood in the all-star game he was very confident in their team he goes now we got a good group we got a good group around Devon but we got a superstar we got we got to say we're gonna have to build us up where do is it way we're doing this entire thing felt like he felt good about the team because they had a bunch of dogs and that for them to be in this position if they were to go in I mean good for them that's obviously somewhere that they weren't the last couple years as he has spent so much money so much money on trying to turn them around sports are incredible we also have Daniel Jeremiah in the second hour and team USA baseball head coach Mark the Rose let's go to the toxic corner at Ty Schmidt tie we're talking to D-Roc his baseball is having a little bit of a time right now yeah superstars night in night out having big games games being electrifying we had walk offs we had dongs we had everything seemingly happening last night yeah I mean on any given night there's probably four or five things you can point to that are very very entertaining like last night you know this battle in New York between the Yankees and the Angels where judge and Mike trout have gone crazy they've had a combined seven homers in three games they have another day game today at 135 but that I mean that's what it is you know and then late you know we talk about walk offs and crazy stuff that happens jazz chism who's rocking the Jackie Robinson baggy pants hits a pop-up in the bottom of the ninth inning Oswaldo Parazzo the third baseman their former Yankee who got traded last year and Zack Neto they let that one drop which is just Cardinal sin gets good teams you cannot let that happen later in the inning Jose Caballero laces one into the gap one run scores to tie the game and here comes Austin Wells the Dominican hero who just gets in to walk off the Angels so that was a great game we had another feel like they're possibly on that infield fly you know just like when we thought Jim Erse maybe grab Tyrese Halliburton's brick in Madison Square Garden and go ahead and drop it maybe Jackie Robinson just does a little you know cuz the pants maybe there is a little magic happening right there right in front of our eyes there could been some sort of divine intervention because by all accounts jazz has not had a good start to the season he has been very very cold and then corn yeah that is a can of corn and that is you know that should just be the easiest play ever but that's the kind of thing that can turn your season around jazz chism exactly so that was an unbelievable game we had another walk off in the Padres and Mariners game Padres were you know down six runs late they ended up coming a Jackson Meryl rips one down the line to walk it off so that was an unbelievable game again this is kind of stuff that you don't really see every you know for a casual baseball fan if you see a game that's like six one or six nothing going into the last inning you're probably just saying okay like that that one's over don't need to pay attention to that but we've had a lot of these this year and then obviously anytime you got a guy like Shohei on the bump which he was last night just absolutely slicing and dicing strikes out ten guys like we pitched yeah it only pitched didn't hit first time in several years that he's done that but to your point and what you've been saying the stars are starting to perform so you can pick you can cherry pick four or five guys you want to follow a night and more often than not they're delivering yeah show hey I forget the amount of his pitches are fun yes they kept saying he has seven pitches seven different pitches I turned this on strictly because Shohei was pitching so I found myself let's go ahead and watch this game a little bit that ball's moving his off speed stuff is 73 mile an hour thing he dropped and that thing looked like it was literally a lollipay I mean it was just like boom Joe buck back on the call he's unbelievable calm baseball yeah I like Joe buck he said he was just a given interview last week said I am not doing baseball and then all of a sudden I hear he's doing baseball and I'm like I was bummed when he said he wasn't doing baseball I think what his dad was big time baseball commentator right yes and he broke in through baseball I believe Joe yeah and he got a lot of hate right because yeah yeah because well his dad was the play-by-play guy for the Cardinals for a long time so I think for a very long time like Cubs fans hated him but then he called every World Series for the longest time so obviously there's you call enough of those there's one team who loses they're gonna hate his guts by the end of it yeah I think he pretty much was hated by damn near every fan base so I would think that he probably in baseball is like you know he's done it I've really enjoyed that I'm very lucky obviously his family has done great but it sound like in the answer he gave I think it was maybe front office sports or something like that and he was talking about how like he's done with baseball that's not really a thing anymore and then I heard him on the call last night and I was like Joe I'm happy you're back was this a quick it was this like an Orlovsky type situation where he's like I'm not doing it and then they're like hey actually do you want to do it and he's like yes or was this the last planned one or do we have more because I love Joe I'm on the call felt like I learned a lot yeah like he was teaching me a lot as somebody that's newer to baseball I assume super baseball people don't necessarily love all that but to your point anytime you're commenting anything you're the soundtrack of either the best moment of the team or the worst moment of the team so you're gonna get hate and Joe Buck has certainly experienced that a generational obviously was dad being in the game I liked the way he does things he's a smooth operator yeah he is a smooth operator he's the best and ESPN lost Sunday Night Baseball this year it's on NBC now but I think they still have like a package of 20 showcase games maybe throughout the course of the season I don't know if it's been confirmed that Joe Buck is gonna be on the call for all 20 of those games but I wonder if it is something where he may you know pick and choose which ones he does want to call and the more Joe Buck is calling baseball like I'm all for it I love when he's on the call yeah in watching Shohei deliver was sick yeah I mean it was fun to watch it did put me to bed but but I enjoyed it try to do the prime thing first game was not as exciting as second one you know shot to Philadelphia big time let's go one half of the hammer I cowboys AP tone what up dude I know he's kind of being a bitch right now but you'll see Michael Cole's Mets I believe a loss was it seven or eight straight just seven just on the other side of the show hey they just wanted to get that out there yeah straight yeah eight straight here man so shut up he's being a bitch right in my eyes you don't have to say I'll say it's pretty strong yeah you want real hard out the gate there I mean it's 1213 Eastern I mean that was that was well if you're not with you then you're against you I'll greed I mean and that certainly has been noted the descriptor on how you get in there you can get in there a lot of different Lord of the Marks that guy's being a bitch too yeah I've no longer Lord I've noticed him yeah there's some Bishop do we know this guy what's his dude's name the arch there's a bishop something he's talking about Bishop dire dire yeah what is that who's that is that a thing the Yankees hitting coach is that he's saying something to I need that in the main event oh shut up who are you what it what is that entire thing we all knew WrestleMania was happening ten days ago sure definitely everybody outside of the diehard wrestling people definitely knew WrestleMania was happening ten days ago for sure that certainly was something that was happening nine year NFL vet derri's J Butler is here WrestleMania it's been a run it's been a run of a road to WrestleMania here what's been two weeks yeah more of a sprint like a 40 almost yeah it felt like it was a combine there I do wish it was a little bit longer you know but there had to be a little bit of I'm a little rain do what he wants to do I don't need to step on him conversations happen and let him do what he needs to do hey you just got kill everybody I think bro you know I think that's what you the way he went about doing that you know he actually yeah big time you know and then there was the moment of like all right let's go all right now it's time to say lose perfect time say hey and now all of a sudden they got our photos on a side stadiums and I would just like let people know what Randy Orton's gonna do on Saturday night is something that has been needed to be done okay and he's gonna be the one that does it and once he saves the business and becomes 15 time world champion on Saturday night Roman Reigns on Sunday is just gonna hammer home the point boom there's gonna be two nails in the coffin of bad business and then all of a sudden guess what's back wrestling baby let's go ahead and do sports entertainment to the maximum that it can possibly be done and that's a Randy Randy's been doing that oh yeah you hear the buzz when Randy walks into a play that's the that's the champion yes exactly superstar when he walks into a room they go that's hey that's what a WWE superstar is yeah takes up the whole doorframe bingo hey actually what happened at a door fucking Randy Orton WWE champion came in and oh I get his shoulders bought the yeah yeah it's like redwoods exactly European uppercuts perfect I mean everything about it that is what it is so whenever he becomes champion for the 15th time everybody else kind of understand what WWE businesses just as easy as that and then Roman's gonna be like you actually let me help out a little bit here bingo and he's coming in with that boom nine year anniversary brother is here gone the right about actually debut what are you excited about getting out there to Vegas should be a lot of fun I mean an injury energy is always great out there can't wait for obviously what happens on Saturday and I know you said Sunday is gonna stink outside of Roman I'm locked in the Sunday too you know this is the time this time of year the market it just takes over me and I turn into a WWE mark maybe a TKO mark who knows I will see this weekend should be great is always great I can you know you never know this what surprises you make it obviously you have shoot sports you got the playoffs going on in HL NBA and then you got money or so I can't wait I like to your drop in shoot sports in yeah hey good for you dude I appreciate the mark in you and I also appreciate the fact that you understand what it's supposed to look like yeah yeah I've been a fan a long time we understand it you know it's just kind of sometimes you got to remind people and that's what I've been telling Randy is hey Randy you just got to tell these people what it's supposed to be and he's doing it have you got to the bottom of uh what you're gonna do with D-Bone right because I saw the clip on the bone D-Bone who knows so I know he said he was in on it it's like yeah yeah right this guy no way he's thinking past that step right there and then yeah it's meal exactly that's that that's that there's no way he is a doofus he will never be left alone okay on anything that I'm a part of ever again smart but on that note like I certainly will continue to monitor the whole maybe he was in cahoots there because that's not good for culture no no but like you said it is not good for culture his brain's the size of a peanut so yeah exactly massive massive head the brain is the actual size of a peanut so you know and I'm not talking a peanut with a shell I'm talking a peanut that's been out of it so do you think he could really you know orchestrate this whole thing or be in cahoots I don't know if he could I think he's too dumb I think he's way too dumb can we see him right now see how he looks yeah see that's he's at the same shop right now he's great graphic design I will say the guy can make a graphic I mean he's an artist good Thunderball player to I must say great Thunderball players you know yeah exactly let's move along let's go to some shoot sport conversations ladies and gentlemen the last two nights on Amazon Prime we have watched a play in games something that has become a little bit of a spectacle to fill in between the end of the regular season and a playoff to maybe get some more names involved this year a lot of names involved Lamello ball said how you doing to the world Abia said hey rest of the country I've been over here in Portland kind of doing my thing for a while Steph Curry and Dreymont Green introduce themselves back to the world Paulo Banquero is getting destroyed on the internet but he can turn it all around in one swift swoop joining us now as a man who can break down to playing games a little bit more and also tell us what we need to be watching for in these games are we are we seeing if Steph Curry shooting at a bigger hoop than everybody else because it's starting to feel like he is and when he was doing that before I know I was wearing probably a bigger shirt I was a little fatter probably then it was years ago years and years ago but in fact that's still in there I think yeah I think that's so in it gets you some wins and if 36 year old Dreymont Green it I'll punch you right in the face and he did time ladies and gentlemen Q rich that was awesome to watch Golden State was awesome to watch I mean granted had to watch it this morning okay that's a hundred percent on me I fell asleep the West shit for the NBA is very difficult I have a kid I have a pregnant wife and I have a full-time job so there is it's gonna be tough those late-night games and I will kind of do a doze away but if Steph Curry is gonna be playing like this I will certainly stay awake you know the Lake show was the late show back in the day because Kobe was doing his thing Steph Curry took that West Coast late-night game kept people up for a long time type of basketball for a while is he back are they back and if is Jimmy Butler how much I be believing that this is happening over the next couple months Q rich listen I mean Steph Curry as long as he's healthy and he's able to play and run around he's always gonna be the equalizer with that jump shot and with that three-point shot that he has he's probably the most daily guy in NBA shooting the ball of all time and I mean when he whenever he's always there's a chance that he could he could hit one and in and everything changes that's the type of player he is it just takes one to go in and we saw that exact example last example last night and he got going and he carried them through I mean him and and and and and Jemez defensive IQ and the way that he balled out defensively and locked up on Kawhi those two dudes turned back the clock and and they move on okay so talk about turning back the clock a little bit you know cuz sometimes for some people that have been through everything before and have experienced all the highs of the highs sometimes they need the bigger stages to kind of wake up you know some some people I don't want to say you're waiting for the bigger moment but certainly turn their entire everything up whenever it gets to a bigger moment because they know that it matters more especially 82 game season a lot of different time to have success and downfalls and everything do we think that that team is a team that has been to the dance so many times that is like dance basketball is when they're playing their absolute best every year I mean I think absolutely for for those individuals like Steph and Dre Ma they've been in so many big moments and they know what to do and know what it feels like to be in those positions this is a new to them this is like another game and they've been in it and they performed and performed at that level so many times to you know overcome those moments is like it's like instinct to them and that's why teams like that with those type of players has been been around a block so many times and steel can play right now and still can dial it up but they're always gonna be dangerous and you play in and play off type situation tell me about Charlotte now brand new team feels like Miles Bridges obviously been around happy to see him have his success but Lamello new to the scene obviously Khan gonna be brand new to the scene as he continues to do his thing Charlotte as a whole to an entire generation of NBA fans probably new to the scene tell me about this squad and what you like about them and how are their chances against Orlando to move on to take on the Detroit past it's gonna be a hell of a game tomorrow night here and here in Orlando and I mean this team this team Charlotte has been one of the most exciting and fast playing up tempo teams this whole second half for the year they didn't have a great start but they they got their chemistry down they got everything got their players back and you're seeing it right now man they are if nothing else they are extremely exciting they play super hard they play together they defend and their team that you never know what's really gonna happen because it's like they got they got some wild cards Lamello was playing his butt off having a hell of a year the big addition was Kobe White I think you saw in that game against the Miami he came in and he pretty much helped win that game for them with the with the points he scored in the run he went on he kept them right there and put them in position to finish off at the end so I think them against them the magic tomorrow is gonna be a huge game my magic definitely need the bounce back lost last night against Philly but they got a chance to show it up and still make it in so I'm looking forward to tomorrow night come on Friday playing championships to get into the playoffs Suns Golden State Charlotte Orlando who will get into the big dance okay we had some breaking news this morning at a Shamsheranias Twitter account 65 game rule that is coming to play that if you don't play 65 games you don't get awards which potentially lead to bonuses and obviously legacy and career and everything like this this was for load management reasons they put into 65 game requirement well now we are learning that you can challenge them you can appeal the ruling if you don't make it to 65 games get to state your case extraordinary circumstances challenge is what Luca and Cade Cunningham presented to the NBA I assume it was a hey this wasn't load management we got actual injuries poor timing sorry about this we still think we should be able to win some awards especially with legacies on the line and actual contract money I think Tyrese told us it was like 40 50 million dollars difference for a title that you didn't get or that you do get so this is a massive ordeal happy to hear that there is a potential way to appeal it if something actually happens Anthony Edwards did not got denied I do believe his he did the same thing with the extraordinary circumstances challenge and had it denied Cade and Luca get it passed so they are up for the awards on that note D but has a question for you yeah they are up for the awards but pretty pretty long shots on a draft Kings on but the favorites three favorite SGA is the favorite Wimby and Joker who led the league in rebounds and assists first time ever if you were picking if you had the one-soul choice to pick this year's MVP who would you go with I'm going with SGA SGA I mean he's done it back to back here his team is the number one team I mean and I don't think it's a diss to any of the other guys I think any of these guys in any year could have been the MVP all the way down to Luca K and obviously you know Joker and and Wimby I mean those guys definitely it will be first team all NBA but I just feel like what SGA is done the run he's been on the resume he's put together the the all-time records that he's that he's toppled this year and passing up will join an MJ with four years straight average and 30 shoot 50 over 50% I mean he's the man right now like like I told you last time he scored 20 he hadn't scored 20 the last time he didn't score 20 was December 2024 I think that's that's a certain you're dominance on the league and letting letting everybody in the world know that literally no one can guard me no one can stop me the way he walks in dresses to show us awesome he knows it yeah he knows it like he is a hundred percent certainty is he is exactly who he is I walked out of the hotel elevator at the SGA and he was just like chilling on the wall on the side and he like was dressed so cool and there was like two people around him that they were having a conversation I like look to my left it was a fucking movie scene I'm like good for you man literally what I said that I just kept walking away leg up he had like a baggy suit on pant so cool fur at the SP it was like a full length fur yeah this was elevator swag is crazy swag is crazy crazy this is elevator the next day it was like loose suit pant you know I'm talking about high black sock dress shoe I think like up there and then he had like an over thing on and sunglasses and then there's two guys talking to him I just literally pop out of the elevator who knows what my altitude was at that exact time walk out or I'm gonna try to get out of here without seeing too many people where the fuck do I go speaking of the speaking of the stress though okay you see I you see I wore my Jordan T-shirt today because I took a lot of flack on social media for Sandy MJ was a go as if people would expect me to say something different I don't know why I'm a kid from Chicago Southside Wild Hunters I watched every move this man made and I ain't seen nothing like it said and it's no disrespect to nobody else it's no disrespect we all are given opinions I get I get my whole social media you wouldn't that I was like I don't care I'm not about the I'm not about the finger battle with you with you Twitter people and all of this like I said what I said and I stand on it MJ to go okay I like what you did there I appreciate what you did I also like you got murdered out there it was it was hot it was hot it was hilarious to me I just enjoyed it I you know I don't really it that doesn't round me up like those are just people somewhere behind the screen I'm not I'm not really affected by that I find it kind of funny and it's still like it's literally still going on right now in the comments like it's not even about me anymore it's just them going at each other and I'm just looking at it laughs I'm like this hilarious so this is why sports television I'm not gonna blame anybody this is why sports television did LeBron verse Jordan for four years straight every single morning got a conversation still doing it because it just goes crazy just led to league of fast break points by the way what are you're 21 he's cherry picking up 41 oh cherry picking no but on that note four years straight maybe longer every single morning every single one there had to be at least one discussion of if Jordan would have done something differently than what LeBron did the night before or if coming two days from now what would Jordan be able to do against his team that LeBron probably won't be able to do like that was literally every single the reason why it's because of his comments right now very rarely do you have two people that are like representing a generation you know yeah definitely a generation and like my entire adulthood with a brain and memories is watching this guy just crush forever and it's like during the social media age during the things where you learn about the type of person you could get literally caught doing anything at any time seemingly you have to be super guarded he put his entire family and friends on it's like I don't know I don't know it's a little bit of a different era so it's tough to judge like imports but if I was from Chicago and I had a Jordan candle yeah right computer I understand that I would say and also if I played basketball in my whole life like you did who have a much more better opinion than I would have I like your that you've kind of dug in there it's gonna be loud though and it's not just because I'm from Chicago I could have been from Antarctica and I was still believe it like that's just that's just more pointed that I'm from there where it all happened but I could be from I could be from South Africa West Indies and it's the fact that is that is what it is not yeah yes I am a Jordan brand athlete since 2000 Michael Jordan handpicked me I saw a lot of that in my comments he handpicked me yes blessed and all of that but still those facts remain the same the fact that I'm a Jordan brand member has absolutely nothing to do with my opinion on who the goat is it's the time until like if you are you know a teenager or a young kid like when I saw Dion Sanders do it like it's gonna be hard for anybody to be a better you know and seeing Michael I had an older brother six years older me so he made me sit down and watch my and you like I can just say you never saw nothing like it before and you still haven't really seen anything like it since and I admit I was brainwashed and I would never say anybody was a goat outside of the black cat so I mean it just is what it but the brun mitt you know you're growing up in this de bone like guys who have grown up only seeing that it's gonna be hard to convince them anybody 20 years from now every better and I'm not trying to convince them DVD everybody's entitled opinion and I'm not like like I'm not taking anything away from the Brian like anybody with eyes can see what he's done has been nothing short of amazing to come in with the hype he had and the and everything that was expected to over overshoot that and jump over what people were expecting and still year 21 to be doing what you're doing you can't take nothing away from him if you try to you hate him but that don't mean that he's better than him that's all I'm saying see we just did we did it we just did it right as it comes up you gotta have we just did the whole thing all right we've got 364 more days this year yep and then we got hit that three more years after let's make sure we hit all this shit okay I'm sick of it April 16 I'm sick of it okay let's get back to the playoffs which is obviously everything that everybody's gonna be talking about the NBA until it's over and then it will all be drama about everything else that has happened around the NBA so let's talk about what's gonna take place over the next couple months good con man yeah Q rich big conversation with the playing games is like hey congratulations your season's over you get to go play the one or two seed in the east or the west when you're looking at those other series Lebron Lakers going up against the Rockets nuggets going up against the T Wolves calves Raptors nicks Hawks do you see any underdogs making it through on DraftKings the odds prices for the series are pretty lopsided towards you know the favorites the Lakers kind of being the only one that is the higher seed that doesn't favored in the entire series but any of those do you see coming out and then also there's no chance the Trailblazers can get it done versus Spurs or any of those other series correct should we just assume it's gonna be one two three four across the board yeah well I don't know the ones that I will keep my eyes on like you said the Lakers in the Rockets I'm interested to see how that series goes the Timberwolves in the Nuggets as well like you know I know the Nuggets haven't I mean the Timberwolves haven't been trending that way as well as the Nuggets have but we've seen what they've been able to do the last two playoffs and and they got Ant-Man so I'm never gonna count him out until they until they literally out and then I gotta look at that Nix Hawks series man and the Hawks can't just you know you can't just dismiss them like that and I think they gonna come out there and they gonna put up a big fight in this series I don't think it's as lopsided as it seems I won't be surprised if you know the Nix go ahead and handle them but I also won't be surprised if they give the Nix a hard push all right Q rich the West is just dominant at the top yeah I believe that I believe the the the thunder the spurs and and the Nuggets is tough even though I like I said I don't shut the door on a Timberwolves but I think I think the Nuggets could you know they if they I feel like I would not be surprised if the Nuggets beat the Spurs in the series or the Thunder in a series at some point this postseason I think they I think Joker in them are they can be that good it won't be shocking to me if that happens Celtics Nugs oh that'd be fun to see Joker back on top especially with what his brother's been doing yeah sit on that kind of boss will be great that's what I'm saying that's scary sitting in the crowd I wouldn't want to be nowhere around his area what is he six eight or something like that Jack huge I don't know he looks huge not only tall but like wide and huge and wait a minute two not just one that was just one that was on yeah on the video the other one I believe is taller not as wide kind of in between Joker and the mountain basically yeah many more these are there not not I can't even imagine what his papa looks like oh they look like some they look like some they look like some dude that was like you remember the movie triple X when they had them they look like they could have been some extras in triple X but I was good in these one yeah and I'll tell you what if you're chirping and they don't like what you got great great reference if they don't like what you're saying they're they're certainly gonna let you know and they know what they look like as well that one guy turn around sit down holy shit what was that thing did the Homer sense you just went into the grass you're the man we appreciate the hell out of you ladies and gentlemen hey we're excited for the playoffs maybe you won't be as biased as you are with your whole Chicago almost three decades being a team Jordan member yeah say eliminate that shit eliminate that eliminate being from you could take the buy itself it's still MJ go ask somebody who's not brand Jordan for 30 years and still been watching what I've been watching they'll tell you the same thing yeah we've heard it a lot I've heard a lot just cuz I don't really know bull like yet and I saw the brawn in high school beating the entire Pennsylvania State All-Star so I said that's gonna be the one right there and then I watched the last dance a lot of this shit a lot of Zach Brian dribbling the last dance cut out Brian dribbling in the last dance okay was points oh no remember what you play for Zach he played off for the LA fitness in oh my mom was yesterday he's the the orange he's a country something in the orange there it is incredible revival revival of the moment say yes I do not know as much about him as I should I believe he's a military member he's stay away from basketball cameras certainly should be on basketball court that's good cardio I like what he's doing it's great cardio somebody airing him out like this when he was on a fast break is unbelievable this was the last dance though I saw a lot of this in the last I didn't watch basketball back then but I saw I saw so well lampir's clothes line of people is like the lampir is also dribbling that shit over his ear so I think that's where the you know so let's look relaxed all right you're the man I appreciate you ladies and gentlemen's Q rich yeah so let's just make sure we're all kind of understand oh yeah that was my first time watching that generation of basketball and that's where my take was like hey hey this is too stop every different stop it just docked in tone digs was playing he was the guys on 15 yeah we got a full league here still there's still some others that we need to fill the positions up here and I think their tone digs Boston car oh yeah I think I saw Bruce Brown Smith I think I mean that was kind of way from the playing games like gosh these are the nine and ten seats these guys are so good at basketball guy through a pass off ladies head last last night water what I'm saying though is what I'm it's two different sports the game has evolved so much yeah of course the game has evolved so much it'd be hard to actually say well who leads the entire history of the league and wins points rebounds games the guy that's played in a soft league for a long time okay what cause Bill Lampere ain't done there clothes on the ball game is 19 games in his whole career like here's a goat I would like to be with Bill if I ever popping off in a wrestling event and somebody like to fight me I would love to have Bill ampere like I ever anywhere like I would definitely like that but when we're talking about just Jordan came in and did things we've never seen I and thank God he did because basketball would have been dead if they would have continued to do what they were doing if they were doing this type of stuff while they're dribbling the ball no doubt but it's 2026 you still don't see anybody that moves like Jordan okay so athletically we're talking about LeBron's 41 like we just talked about how LeBron is 41 he leads the league in fast break fast break again this this is the real third time I grew up in Massachusetts we hated LeBron more than anything growing up and eventually get the part where it's like holy shit I was this guy doing still play yeah brain wash okay we're done with it that's four days worth okay too much we didn't talk about Kobe it rest in peace rest in peace now is not the time to ma'am but two man race ladies and gentlemen no it is not just that if we're talking about Kobe then we got to talk about Tim Duncan I'm sick of that hurry then Larry Bird Larry Bird the only guy to win three champions please all right let's move along ladies and gentlemen a sport that we have recently fallen in love with falling in like with love okay we were in love it is currently in like it will remain in like until we get back to maybe the fall I think is when it really starts sprucing after Memorial Day after NHL NBA finals but I'm a little bit but ladies and gentlemen joining us now to talk about baseball a man who played in MLB we think we did the math 16 year vet who been there done that for every team somehow not the parts don't love that the Italian yinzers would have loved his presence his team USA's coach he's also the host of MLB Central on MLB Network 10 a.m. to noon every day we watch fantastic video this guy detective D-roll it's my favorite detective D-roll how about back class D-roll yeah then he put him in the fire he had a fire thing and I will say this this guy greatest visual in the history of sports with a national anthems human addition you know cuz like the B2 bomber certainly much better than any human could be some singer singing it very well some symphony that shot that we saw recently of the guy getting both flyovers bingo yeah that that's a good camera we're just talking humans when humans are getting shot during national anthems you know the best in history we're talking real baseball classic finals he had a jawline pure hair perfect hat gripped perfectly right over left chest which I learned as an adult the heart is actually more so in the middle so we've all been doing this one here because I think that's a weird thought is that fake I don't know why that happened to all of us but the heart I guess is down here he had that thing locked in right here and somehow there was a perfect up lighting and they had this 8k shot on the on the jumbo tron 35 seconds of the national anthem maybe I've never seen anything so I felt fucking alive I hope he has that on repeat in the bedroom in the living room and in the kitchen ladies and gentlemen fresh off the hot stove what an intro you have that picture oh my I know exactly what you're talking about if I could tell you what I was thinking in this moment in that moment I was looking into the stands going wow this thing got big this matter's got big in a hurry yeah this matters they were loud their fans were a lot it was obviously you knew you guys are gonna be outnumbered I think in a couple of different places and us getting a chance to experience a punch a in the culture in just the vibes and obviously them going on the win is gigantic but showcasing all of Latin baseball it felt like is what that really was I want to go down there and watch these games now you were removed from it really happened Pat we didn't win I was there I was there D-Roe D-Roe I'm still pot yeah you are still pot it was a tough walk out of that state I'm gonna let you know I know you guys had a tough one too with the silver medals obviously we were there well yeah it miserable oh we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna talk to some people we got to rework that we can't be getting silver medals on the field and I had to hang in there and give the fake hug to the body after yeah like way to battle with me this is rock bottom yeah on the field you're on the field too everybody's watching you we were watching you yeah we were about 30 feet away from you giving them a hug what you because they would meet you and then they go down in a dugout couple of the boys kept the medals on a lot of the boys took the medals off immediately because it wasn't what they wanted but let's talk about that experience as a whole yeah that's the best one that we've world baseball classic that there has been and I feel like it was good for baseball as a whole would have loved to win D-Roe I think you obviously more than us at this point especially with what you were hearing from everybody in all walks of life people that don't know baseball either were calling for you to not have your morning show anymore oh my god right on your morning show I have I'm back though I'm back yeah you're batting a thousand over there I fucking watch but on that note what do you think of the world baseball classic now looking back I think it was great for ball I think it was great for ball yeah so many thoughts played in it in 09 as a player and we didn't know what we were getting into then managed it in 23 and could kind of start to feel the ground swell from Japan and the Latin American countries and then you couldn't deny the passion of it this time I mean that thing was all-encompassing the game against the Dominican when I took the lineup card out with the umpires and Albert Puhl I played with Albert in 09 we're good buddies we look we locked eyes with each other and it was like hey we're good buddies but this is this is on tonight like whoo you could just feel the tension in there for me what I take away the growth of the WBC the growth of baseball how I got those guys to buy in and love each other for two and a half weeks and try and create just an unbelievable experience for them the bottom line is Venezuela played us that night we didn't you know we didn't get the offense rolling the offense never really got rolling the entire tournament and that was strange coming off Arizona those two games we played in Arizona where we were just rolling so yeah I walk away I'll never get over the fact that we weren't able to get across the finish line but man god life friends for life band of brothers being in that dugout with those guys and honored to to be able to to manage them yeah it was it was an incredible run with you guys and when he hit that two-run shot right there yeah I I don't know if you've heard me talk about it and how I experienced that that was like the best moment I've had at a sporting event as a fan the buy like it was I was jumping up on my seat because not a lot of people in Venezuela have a clue who I am which is good and again yes they do well by the end of the game they figured it out yeah by the end of the game it kind of got figured out but for most of that game I was just we were just kind of in it it was debuts birthday the next day was turning 40 I mean we were we had perfect seats yeah we had a we're in Miami I mean we were having a good time in this entire thing and I lost my mind yeah I absolutely lost my mind when I blacked out to yeah me huge chest bump and then and then my pitching coach is grabbing me going who we getting going who we getting going listen you got tight not the real we gotta get back in there you can't be riding eyes like you're a million the crowd you really I have a tendency to ride the highs in that moment listen there's so many things going on and I know we took a lot of heat for decisions that were being made we were losing to nothing in that moment Garrett Clevengers warming up for the raise if if we're still down to nothing before the game we kind of you know made some deals with some teams to keep their players healthy and we were not going to bring Mason Miller into a game that was tied and that was kind of what we worked out with the Padres Garrett Whitlock had thrown the heck out of the ball for us the entire tournament and he was you know but big ask right there at three out of five days he didn't have it a great also the behind the scenes if you having to deal with all that I don't really learn that until as the days are kind of going by on what all limits are like Mason Miller right now he's potentially what Cy Young right he's having his best season so the Padres obviously knew that he's Pittsburgh kids so I assume he wanted to go whenever you needed him but there's a lot of things happening between the people that are paying hundreds of millions of dollars to some of these guys what for something that they're running right MLB is running as well so how do you balance that with how serious seemingly the world started taking it but then realizing like this kind of has like preseason vibes a little bit with who's allowed to win how do you kind of deal with that and do you think more people should know that going into world baseball classics so they don't just kill you kill you immediately for everything you know it's funny if you say that Pat because I looked at it after I got done and I'm like should I be eaten all this grief if people truly knew you know kind of what goes into it but then that kind of downplays our place in the tournament and how we go about it so I'll never do anything to downplay the guys the fact that the 30 guys 30 of the I mean that's one of the greatest teams that'll ever be put together just super talented players super talented human beings they're coming in knowing that the 162 matters more I think for me what people got to understand about this is growing up in the United States the world series is always going to be the pinnacle like every American born kid wants to get on a big league team that plays baseball and win a world series if we happen to walk into a WBC that would be fantastic as well I think if you look at it from the other countries a team like Venezuela team like the Dominican they come to our country and play they hear our anthem every night so for them to be on our soil with their countrymen here their anthem it's got to be an out of body experience for them so they're they're gonna act and portray a different way than I would say the American we care just as much we had just as much fun when when when we were letting it out I just think that whole narrative kind of got skewed no I'll eat a lot of the pitch and stuff I would just say to the people at home if it looks fishy it is it is you know like Byron Buxton stayed in center field and I would move P crow Armstrong to the corners that wasn't because I thought Byron's a better center fielder than Pete that's because I had we were in agreement that Minnesota didn't want us moving Byron around I couldn't put Gunner Henderson at second base there was things that were not gonna happen okay so I don't think the entire world needs it like Ryan Yarbrough was gonna pitch against Italy no matter what he had to to cover the innings you might not have liked when he came into the game but he was coming in yeah I killed you for that and I also kind of knew all this stuff I didn't know any of this stuff that was so he's killing you on this I thought it was just pitching I didn't know was also outfield growing the game and I gotta eat a few I don't want to know what I just want to go all right yeah let's move off to what baseball class now I feel like we're much more informed I think it was great for baseball yeah and I think it was an incredible start to the season go ahead deep but I think you're incredible for baseball too love the detective D Rose said a couple weeks ago talking about my Marlins but are you mentioned you played in 09 and then obviously I've been following I guess a little more closely the guys that play in the WBC this year how did that impact Jews a player and how do you think it's impacting the guys that played this year to start this long MLB season yeah I think for me first what I got to share batting practice group with Derek Jeter and Jimmy Rollins and David Wright so I'll never forget that that that was two and a half weeks of the most fun in my life as a player I think how it impacted from a position player standpoint it's a no-brainer to play in that thing you're getting playoff at bats in March and then it rolls right into the season and you're ready to go from a pitching standpoint you got to have the right mindset what do you got to come in with the way you got it you because you got to change out you got a ramp up quicker you got to understand that once you get in this environment there is no governor on anything I know you can you think that you can kind of tone it down you can't I mean you felt that room against Venezuela it's it's too much it's too big there's guys on that USA roster that'll never play in games like that in their career in the big leagues so it's tough to turn that off and you got it you got to be willing and that's why Andy Pettit our pitching coach always said if they're on the fence I want the guy who wants to be here not the most talented guy per se and that's why skeens is such a unicorn he was my first call on the pitching side and he goes I'm doing this for every service man and woman and you know it's like alright dude I'm like I'll go to war with you you know out there then Venezuela came back and I'll tell you what they had an army yeah that place you talk about the magnitude and how it felt in there that was special man that really was cool that your sport was bringing that to the world but also just getting a chance to be in there with the Venezuelan celebrating how emotional they were how happy they were they were great shit talking sports fans I would say yeah maybe the most friendly yeah clean yeah I got a lot of love for Venezuela I played winter ball there coming up through the minor leagues and spent a lot of time over there in Caracas and made some great friends the Bobby of Bray used to the world and legend couple yeah legend couple other guys so I've the Venezuelan my Venezuelan teammates in my big league career I always had a little kind of special bond with you speak Spanish no I don't don't I can say the bad I I could say the bad words okay so you can fit in a little bit but then you drop one of those and I go green go yeah I can understand what they're saying it's just the speed at which they say it I can't pick up everything yeah we're trying though you know I see a Spanish sign I try to I try to learn the word you know I'm trying to pick it up I'm not doing a Rosetta stone or that other one I think there's another one there it is I will at some point try to learn it all 281 day straight you are really which language I do more I do Spanish I do chess oh so you're dickin around and I'm doing 281 straight days of math math chess or Spanish oh so you just keep you know you got a lot of chest sharp man you don't use it you lose it yeah you're right you're on and if you don't reuse it you never had it yeah the issue is do you feel like you could speak Spanish right now no I can understand it and then it's different you got Venezuelan Spanish you got Puerto Rican Spanish you got Dominican Spanish well I'm down in Miami so it's Spanish Spanish you're Cuban you know so it's so maybe you gotta learn Latin so then you can just learn you work that helps just like that helps all the languages why don't you drop that one in there maybe drop math out of the equation the dead language Latin Latin chess and Spanish I've got the Game of Thrones language on there okay let's go back to some baseball shall we beat you thank you D-Roe for enjoying that conversation with us we're trying to learn Spanish is what we're trying to say we're trying to get into the game big conversation around baseball has been fun for me I don't know how the purists feel go ahead yeah D-Roe feels like the ABS system has been a massive addition to the game I saw the percentages that have come out the catchers are absolutely crushing umpires pitchers and hitters kind of trailing behind him a little bit how do you feel about the ABS do you feel like it is kind of taken out a part of the game the framing the you know each ump having their own strike zone type of thing and do you also feel as though the umps at least behind home plate when it comes to strike zones and you know plays at the plate might be on their last legs like we might not need them anymore if we have a set strike zone for every single night yeah that's that's the fear right like if you can get every call right why don't why don't you do it I still I'm still I'm still an old school purist I do love the ABS and what Rob Manfred did a couple years ago putting the pitch clock in you can't deny it I mean that that's game-changing that that's it basically save the game and from an entertainment standpoint I know when you play you're not worried about that stuff but now being on this side of it it matters I mean you know watching so in on the pitch clock in on the ABS I think that the interesting part for me is watching how certain teams it appeared certain teams had meetings and how they're going to deploy it and when they're going to use it and other teams were just going rogue early and just challenging whatever they wanted and I think as the season progresses I think you're going to see a lot more guys hold it to high leverage situations and and kind of I think the catcher would be if if I was sitting there I think the catcher would have would only have the chance to challenge on a team that I was around and then and then the hitter yeah hitter all hitters or just first four probably first four guys that probably have a good eye it'd be hard for me for my eight hole hitter to lose a challenge for us that would be tough you would get killed could you imagine you would hit eight I'm not I'm not using the challenge unless bases are loaded but even if so I mean the thought of Team USA have an ABS in World Baseball Classic going forward and I know you have said that you would like to be coach going forward we hope that's the case obviously we want to see you get gold yeah as the skipper what am I gonna say to that of course who doesn't want that I agree I don't know we want to coach do you want to be the coach of Team USA no actually this is kind of nah I'm good cool couple other countries calling I think the environment wasn't that cool we're trying to get over there I'm gonna try to ABS is going to be in there though and it's something in our opportunity in time one of your guys is just going to naturally do one of those because they're all stars yeah and you're gonna you're it's going to be wildly wrong then they're going to have a zoom in on your face that's the hardest thing from from the manager's perspective from the dugout is knowing what a ball and strike is you can get the height of it coming moving past you but you had no feel for east west how come you didn't let any of these umps know throwing a baseball pass I didn't see any of this I didn't see any of any of the dust being kicked any you know I saw one guy turn his head around the numps hat the other night made Toronto yeah Toronto you did this one right here make sure he were getting big to beat you there they can do that entire thing you baseball folks really you really turn it up a bit whenever you're getting after it with the umps especially in 23 when we did it I almost went Dan Bolino was behind home plate who's a great great umpire and I just I he called a pitch on Kyle Tucker and I turned to to Brian McCann my boy and I go should I go I just want to go and he goes no no no we need you know we need you um should have went we didn't have any plays they really warranted it I'm sure there was some pitch in there somewhere I didn't like yeah we could oh yeah we actually we actually yeah we had the generous strike out against dr which by the way hey if you don't like come on that's a strike I agree I agree not today ponce pal they had the presidente cans the Dominican Republic beer of it missing the zone how great though did Perdomo and Albert Pujols handle that moment afterwards yeah that's cool they could have made it a whole thing and in the moment again from my vantage point it looked like a great pitch yeah of course it was yeah from my vantage point it was fantastic as well because I got to go experience ponce venezuela world baseball classic championship and uh he continued our friendship with you we appreciate you joining us even after tie just absolutely saw you down a little bit well I love it I love it I had to D. Rowe Fred listen and I knew a lot of the stuff about you know you're basically being hamstrung with a lot of these guys just as a Yankees fan I just knew that just wasn't the moment for Ryan Yarbrough but but what are you gonna do what are you gonna do Amy you know your hands are tied you got it you gotta fire them when you got them so you gotta fire your bullets man exactly hey we appreciate you D. Rowe you're the man ah you guys are the best man watch all the time we watch you every morning got a TV what do you think great show I love it your own deal break down was unbelievable great show good high quality I think you got good LED board seems like the stage is good everything's good yeah it looks really you never being around your phones crazy I've tried to FaceTime you during the show so you would be forced to answer it you never have your phone you're super professional once again University of Penn Guy he's a new Penn Guy he's an Ivy League guy out here doing it we appreciate the hell out of you man you guys are the best thanks for having me see you ladies and gentlemen anytime yeah D. Rowe show's good yeah awesome show shows good learn a lot it's good morning football yes for baseball with that guy with him different sex and he's always handsome yeah yeah it's unbelievable they got good sets over there oh yeah good gimmicks though yeah a lot of them they're doing a lot of gimmicks for baseball we're back on the other side with Sydney Crosby what Hey sports fans the ESPN app has all of ESPN all in one place the ESPN app is your home to thousands of live events ESPN shows and originals across every ESPN network and service and now you can check if you already have ESPN unlimited as part of your TV package for no additional calls visit activate.espn.com to learn how to access your account or sign up then start streaming in the ESPN app it's all of ESPN all in one place sign up or activate now 9-1-1 where's the emergency it's the middle of the night in a small town on the Jersey Shore someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge a search gets underway for the missing driver 19 year old Sarah Stern is it a missing person is it a suicide at this point nobody knows old friendships buried cash and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life I'm juju Chang from 2020 and ABC audio listen now to bridge of lies wherever you get your podcasts are the greatest and we're about to enter playoff season for the NBA and the NHL and if you're not a hockey fan or from a hockey town I do have great news for you if you've never seen the sport what's about to happen in the sport is the most dazzling thing in all of sport I was very lucky to graduate high school from plum high school in 2005 that is in the east hills of Pittsburgh the man that is about to join us right now got drafted with the first overall pick to the Pittsburgh penguins in 2005 now he and his boys if getting mountain and chrysler tang followed mario le mule yarmory auger Ron Francis Tommy Barrasso and a litany of other legends in Pittsburgh that make us the hockey town easy that's a Detroit redlings fan back there nonetheless I am from a hockey city and I am lucky for that that this man has led us to so much happiness so much success and he's the only dude to have 21 straight years of averaging at least a point per game an absolute stallion a consummate professional for the first time on this program ladies and gentlemen Sydney Crosby love guys okay I watch mighty ducks is this where we're sharpening the blades at is this is that where are we at in the room here this is the equipment room yeah this is where all the work gets done this is tags his room our equipment okay okay how long has tags been there how long has tags been there uh his first year was my first year I think he was the third guy then so he was yeah he's been around for a while he's the head guy now he's the third guy oh he worked up the lines okay this guy okay he wasn't apple at one point you know and then he puts the uh see on a tag uh in the chest let's talk about your run since 2005 in Pittsburgh obviously coming in to the NHL we found this out in Pittsburgh as we're learning about you becoming the next superstar so highly hyped highly regarded you know that obviously you're super duper humble which is why you've been able to play for so long but whenever you get to Pittsburgh did you feel the magnitude of the city and how much they appreciated hockey and through this run why have you remained so committed to the city because obviously over the last couple years there's been a lot of people saying maybe you should go elsewhere maybe you can do that you've remained very committed to Pittsburgh can you tell me a little bit more about that and maybe tie it into your hockey life over there yeah I mean it couldn't have been a better place to come just for the fact that it's an unbelievable sports town but also because we were a group of young guys kind of coming up in the league together so um coming out of the lockout there's obviously a lot of pressure um you know being a first overall pick but to know that you were sharing that with you know a ton of younger guys that were excited for the opportunity wanted the responsibility to to be a part of this team and and to grow it and with the fan support that we have here it's just a place that you know at the time I think thought was going to be incredible and it's worked out to be you know even more looking back so you know I think just from the day I showed up at the airport you know it was packed it was more than I could have ever imagined and to think 20 years later here we are getting ready for another playoff run I probably wouldn't have believed it at the time so I'll take this any day yeah and we'll take it too pal okay you say you thought it would all work out or whatever you know with the language that you guys speak it has certainly worked out and now that you know Yinsers a lot better at this stage of your life think about that airport being packed for you think about how much shit was said to go all right we'll go I guess we'll go get this guy you know like think about Yinsers think about that now that you know kind of the culture of the city we are excited for you and obviously everything you've done for us has only been a good time now let's talk about the good time now whenever we chatted with you last year a big night out on stage before you threw a football for a million bucks didn't even doubt it okay unbelievable effort out of you had you thrown a football before oh yeah yeah in Canada you guys do that I didn't realize it was going to be that far I was told it was going to be like 10 yards not a few further than that well I had to put a little heat on you you know I talked to you the night before I said hey if I asked you to throw a football through a hoop for a million dollars you think you'd be able to do that Gino and LaTang immediately go he'll make it you know different with different accents they'll go he'll make it regardless of whatever you're doing and then you asked me for some info it did end up being about 15 yards longer than what I told you okay so I apologize for that you threw a seed you delivered for the city in the arena in which you've done so much but during the conversation with you there I tried to get you to play for Team USA I'm not gonna say anything I'm not gonna say anything I'm not gonna don't go there I mean we could sorry we didn't play oh I'm not gonna say anything I'm not gonna congrats to you guys congrats to you guys still talk to the world still talk to in the world that's good okay hey man I do not but then the next conversation was hey like what does this all look like and you immediately mentioned to them we want to do a couple more runs here in Pittsburgh and I think a lot of people potentially doubted that with how old you all are now you know you Gino and Chris how has it worked out this year why do you think you've been clicking and how do you feel going into the playoffs yeah I mean I think we just you know with somebody changed in the offseason I think we came into camp just short term we just want to have a good start get things organized and try to try to get on track and we had a great start that really helped I think a lot of guys that that came in had something to prove for a lot of different reasons whether it was a young guy whether it was somebody getting an opportunity that hadn't really guys on one-year deals that want to prove themselves a lot of different things so I think we came together as a group really quick saw that we had some success and yeah hazy says hi by the way from there we just kind of you know we got some momentum and started to get some belief so of all years this was a pretty tough one with you know how competitive it was to get in so it's it's a good first step yeah it's definitely a good first step we're expecting our Stanley Cup obviously yeah that's what we want now no I'm just here to be here yeah congratulations you guys go back to the dance with Sidney Crosby no on that out very pumped see you guys back in the playoffs also very pumped to watch the way you guys were playing this year felt like we can go on to win it all first round against Philadelphia Flyers listen I've been in Philly whenever you played against Philly okay I have I don't want to say taking some shrapnel in your name in Philadelphia at a Penn's Flyers game there we understand the relationship between you their fan base and their team why is it special to you is it because of how they treated you whenever you were young or is it because it's the Pennsylvania thing why is this one a heightened rivalry do you think well I think it was there you know before I started playing so I think I was told about it I heard about it but I hadn't really experienced it and then you know my first game I got to figure out pretty quickly what it was all about so I think there wasn't a much of a feeling out process there I think it you know it was everything I expected and more right from the start and then you throw in the playoffs series and you throw you know the history that's that's been there for so long um yeah just uh exactly what I thought more you're you're a little menace bro you know like for being uh you know there's a couple moments obviously the memes and the gifts will make their way around here as the Penn's and Flyers series takes place but I always thought we needed goons around you okay because there is numerous years where you were the one fighting people okay uh have we put that to bed now are we still doing face washing with people and maybe somebody else could potentially be doing that and how important do you think that is for you to set a example for the rest of the team about like hey sometimes you have to really throw you have to throw like sometimes you have to do that because that's a weird thing for me whenever I watch you throughout your entire career I don't say I hate it I actually kind of love it but I think why is this happening if that makes sense yeah well I think early on too I was a smaller player I think I wanted to show that I wasn't gonna be pushed around and and that I could handle I could handle it if it did come to that I'm probably not one of the smaller guys as much anymore as I used to used to be then so I probably had a little bit more of a chip over my shoulder with something to prove and probably overdid it I probably didn't need to do that at some points but it's part of the game and I think you know as far as the playoffs go you try to stay out of that stuff and just focus on playing but yeah I'll do my best to stay out of it yeah thank you please and I can already see it's for the sleep at that yeah you'll try your but yeah exactly I already see you in the first period you're grabbing somebody's jersey obviously from the back you're in the middle of it I get 87 the hell out of there why why is he in there it's it's a beautiful thing I think it's one of the reasons why Pittsburgh absolutely adores you man there's not a lot of people that come through Pittsburgh even people that have had success there that are universally beloved Pittsburgh people are natural no don't like that hate that you be loved by even whenever you're winning a gold medal for Canada wow as it seems I was at all new I don't even remember that. Pittsburgh's the most watched market because of it still yeah do you see that you understand that Pittsburgh is the highest watch market in the United States of America anytime USA plays Canada because of you like you you know like the place absolutely adores you and you scrapping I think is a big part of that tone actually has a question for you yeah Sid you talked about earlier coming in and you guys being so young you and Gino and Flower and Latang and Stalzy like it was all of you guys being super young but then there was a stories and you living with Mario and him being such a huge role model for you guys and then kind of him being the owner and you coming in kind of saved hockey in the city what was it like you guys all being young but having Mario and you and then what are you guys still talking you know constantly coming into this cup run yeah I mean you couldn't have picked a better role model and I think just first seeing someone day to day that's so even Keel living with them getting away from it you know away from the rink just being around his family not having to worry about all the little things when you're in your first year but I think you know having each other as far as being the young guys I think that took pressure off especially with the impact that all those guys had they weren't guys just kind of coming in getting their feet wet they were throwing in some pretty big roles right away Flower was playing a ton even at an early age you know Gino came in was an instant star so I think just having that that group and then even the extended group around that younger guys but character guys big personalities we had a ton of fun but we knew that the position we were in and and obviously having Mario there you couldn't get a better role model who's who's somebody that you know I can relate to it's gone through a lot of similar things and the ways handle it so yeah like I said earlier you couldn't get a better situation as a young guy coming in yeah but a lot of young guys could potentially completely shit the bed with everything you know like the way you've been able to handle it with so much humility and grace while working your ass off and you talked earlier about being smaller whenever you first got into now you gotta have the biggest quads I mean those things are outrageous I as a man who has larger legs I have larger legs used to wait until you see the stuff that your legs will do whenever you retire actually you'll probably I don't even want to know yeah yeah you're right you're right nothing's good when you retire bro play forever everything sucks as soon as you retire there there isn't magical new science that you'll be able to know that doesn't you don't want any of this shit man you don't want to you you want to play forever but yeah your guy can we talk about the amount of like hockey conditioning are you in shape all is there an off-season are you working out all year do you do you ever stop it's pretty short it's pretty short but yeah I think as as I get older I feel like it's something that it's harder to take time off you know the better you that's better if you can just kind of stay in it at least doing a little bit the month two months off straight those days are over yeah well tell me about you skipping the all-star game pissing everybody off and playing on a lake in Colorado is that what it was is that what it was hey look Tiger he's super handsome wait till these people that don't know the guy in the background right there at ridiculously handsome I mean just like yep there he is yeah there he is oh like that's exactly what he wanted to hear that's like the worst hey thank you for getting a tire pumped right now hey tanger thanks for your service to Pittsburgh pal you're welcome hey you broke some record yeah of course of course I keep him happy right now yeah I respect that are you gonna sharpen the blades there tanger is that what you're about to get yeah or or trainer tags is not really on the job right now time off he started as a third liner tech tags started down low in the bench you're saying he's already taking time off this is what happens Sid whenever greatness is around people start getting comfortable can't happen we're going into playoffs right now get tags his ass back in there take I'll get him I'll get him thank you thank you uh oh I don't like that one bit not at all hey you tell tags he needs to tighten the fuck up over there you hear me you tell tags we appreciate his service we still be in here any minute now now that we see in this yeah tags good man uh whenever you talk about like though everything you do gets judged like that all-star game thing was talked but then what I learned is you were playing hockey in some you found a rink that you could display is that like what you do like when you travel or do anything you have to find ice to train on is that the life of your like is that your life I like to know it's not a must I wouldn't say but I was in Montanager and all-star break and we didn't have that much time so I was trying trying to balance getting a rest and then be able to jump into to the game and be alright so skating outside seemed like a great idea so I was nice to get out there's nothing better than being out in an outdoor rink I've never done it actually yeah you should I want to I want to see that yeah I can't skate in Hills Deck you're doing it ball hockey yeah I ball hockey I did ball hockey which you've played obviously go this is you in Montana this is the video I saw yeah yeah and is this just some kids rink on his backyard no this is just that like a park in the in big sky they just have an outdoor rink there that they set up so and you knew this guy was sniping you right here did you know this camera was out uh I think I met him after the fact but yeah I was just I think there was only one or two people there so I drove by it saw that was open had my gear and gave it a whirl that's a cross me hog yeah that's awesome see a rink oh gotta skate it don't I got my gear here too before the shit I was being that guy recording no who's that oh I got a kid out on the ice holy sh** 87 helmet oh my god growing up what was the story Mario the Mew like iced out his living room or something like that so he could skate in there like you Canadians do absurd stuff to get better at hockey what were you a pond hockey guy how did you kind of come into the sport yeah I mean the weather wasn't quite as cold so if we got if we got cold weather for long enough we were on the lake around the pond for sure but mostly ponds we played a little bit on the lake and you know hockey was we practiced twice a week one or two games it wasn't an everyday type of thing when I was growing up so you know you just love being able to get that extra time in playing whether it was on the lake or whether it was playing street hockey any chance you could to play a little bit more because it just it wasn't as available I don't think as it is now so you know that was that was a big part of it too you know they call it like there's a book called the outliers where all the people that are the most successful in their business were either around it at some point introduced to it or they just so having to be completely obsessed with this particular thing sounds like you were that way with hockey since the first time you laced your skates I believe is how you would describe that yeah yeah I read from day one my I think I started skating when I was three my dad played my mom my mom has a big big family and all my cousins played so we uh you know it was something that we all did and we all followed one another to the rink or I used my cousin's hand me down gear you know it's just something that brought us all together so it was it was great great way to grow up then the photos come out of you just banging a dryer or something in your house I believe is uh there it is back that was uh that's where I shot pox was in just unfinished part of the basement there and that dryer was to the left of the net behind it so if I missed outside left that's what that's what happened so I wasn't aiming at it but as you could see I missed a fair amount we would like to thank this but I'll be left with that I don't even know how that was used but it actually held up for a long time somehow the thought of just bang happening that had to be so loud those bucks cramming off them the dents and the wounds we'd like to thank this dryer for its service for the city of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania we would really like to thank you kind of getting tightened up okay let's move along in the hockey conversation about legends and goats especially one that you know well go ahead con man yes it was a pretty cool moment seeing you Gino and Ovechkin after that last game not sure if it's Ovechkin's last game yet but how has that relationship been throughout your career feels like over the past couple years we've seen you two specifically much more kind of in the public light I think you guys got him a watch after one of his games and he got you guys a gift what has that relationship been like and do you two kind of share moments just because you've gone through some of the similar things being the number one picks hey speak some Russian real quick we're doing the we're doing you're already gone oh we're doing Ovechkin talk I thought we'd be able to drop some burger this Gino yeah um yeah you know what just like I think early on just with how we came in and the rivalry and everything was built you know for each each of us to be you know against each other and with the playoff series and everything it was just pretty pretty natural for that to happen but I think over the course of the years getting to know him better you know getting to know his family and just playing against each other for that long and I think there's just such a mutual respect there so it's been pretty cool to you know to be connected that early to play as long as we have and to see the career that he's had you know the expectations are so high but you know to be the greatest goal scorer of all time and to come in with the expectations and to see that up close and to be able to relate to it a bit yeah it's it's kind of it's kind of cool the way it's all worked out are you and him similar you just drinking coke just ripping off that box of pepper over there on a side of the way no I wish I wish I wish I could do that but uh yeah he's he can do uh he can do that I think it has an effect to him one bit no he's still filling the net he might be the last of a dying breed oh yeah actually you know like like actually because the way he's they don't bring him sandwiches and it's like multiples and they're like here you go and then here's a kool-aid size bottle of cocoa hot cheetos and now goes that's a nice program that is how are you you're super I you are we weighing food and everything oh no I I mean I try I try to keep an eye on it I love I love sweets I wouldn't say I'm super dialed in but I'm much better than I was I wish I would have known a lot of the stuff when I was younger for sure um I didn't I didn't quite follow it as close then but um it's okay 21 straight years yeah I think you're doing a okay on that note D-butt has a question for you 21 years is nuts we were actually talking about LeBron and Michael Jordan early would love to hear your opinion on that but dominating for so long you won Stanley Cubs you won MVP you won gold medals what I guess still drives you what's going at the court and motivation for you at this point in your career I think this you know playoffs just competing in you know big games um meaningful games the camaraderie with the group uh being part of a team that does never get old but I think just yeah those two things stand out the most to me is just the competition you know everything that goes into that and and being part of those big games and then just being part of a group I love coming to the rink every day I love being around the guys and and we got a great group here so it's been a lot of fun you want to keep that going so I think that's you know those are probably the two biggest things and as far as what is the what's the other part you had for me MJ or LeBron yep oh whoa okay this is the fourth time we've done this on this show I just want that you know that I got I got to go MJ just because growing up I was a huge Bulls fan and uh and they were so good growing up and then I got a chance to watch Last Dance and I had this image of how all these guys were going to be I had no idea I had never seen much of them growing up and then I see Last Dance and they're exactly what I kind of envisioned that in my head growing up so I think that you know that probably solidified it for me probably probably MJ. Wow. Bit of a runaway. Yeah everybody's saying the same answer. All the goats do you. Where are you from again? What town? Colharbor Nova Scotia east coast to Canada. That's way up there right aren't you guys way up there? Yeah we're pretty up there. Not by Saskatoon. No it's nowhere near Saskatoon. No way other side. No it's nowhere near Victoria. No I'm at a Tova. No I'm at a Tova. No they didn't get me. He's been to the social club a few times. Where in Victoria? Yeah across the nose. Oh that's a Canadian by the way back there he's from Victoria western Canada he's a Dallas Stars fan that's nice that he followed you up there. Gumpy got anything to say to Sydney? No congratulations on being back in the playoffs let's go on a run here brother. Thanks I appreciate it. Gumpy how many golds has Canada won in hockey? All time in everything probably like 56 I think. How many are we behind in it? You get like 35 40 more you'll be close. What about like the last two years? Who's in first in there? That's not disrespect Mr. Sydney. Oh sorry I'm tired of going to gop nards not Sydney. Okay yeah don't put Sydney on the screen this is strictly for Gumpy. This is what happens by the way he's the only Canadian in here Sid. This is what happens so yeah it is tough. I actually almost went back on everything that I said about NHL players playing in international games whenever you got as soon as you got hit in that game I really was like why are these guys playing it? Why why are these guys playing it? It does feel like your sport the international we're just talking to D-Roe about baseball with the world baseball classic feels like your sport is getting very much like the four nations as the all star was phenomenal I think we all thought obviously the Olympics captivated both the women and the men captivated the entire globe. Why do you think there's so much of like that type of feel for that sport? I guess you go all the way back to whenever we beat Soviet Union or whatever the miracle and ice feels like hockey always has that. Why is that you think Sid? Yeah I think just big sense of pride when guys get to play for their country and you know you think about it guys guys leave their you know their home and they go play in a new city for a new team don't really know a lot about what they're going into and then when they get to play for their national team you know it's just so much pride I think that comes with that and you never know if you're going to get that opportunity so I think you just you see that on full display when guys you know play for their country you see guys you know the desperation and you see the intensity and you see the fans the way people get behind it I think you know we as players feel all that and you look at four nations nobody knew really what to expect and you know you're playing the bell center first game and just the atmosphere and the way people got into that I don't think anybody could have drew that up you know that was that was special so I think we all feel that. Yeah you want to take the attention back to four nations for sure I know yeah I heard that. Yeah you know what I'm doing. Yeah I heard that. He gave a ball to the grandkids. Good job. And I think it was a huge ordeal by the way that you guys won that and I think you guys know that too at the time there was some loud there was really loud. Sociopolitical implications. Canada wins and it gets quiet real quick and it's like holy shit did a hockey game just decide and it did. It felt like it did and sports by the way the greatest the greatest of all time. Speaking of sports being the greatest of all time you know one generation to the next is kind of how it goes. Go ahead Ty. Yes Sid when you got drafted a lot of the and I can't really remember if this was a thing before you but everyone was pointing you saying hey he's the next this guy's the next Wayne Gretzky you know and then as your career has kind of gone on we've had a bunch of other guys come up but now that narrative's kind of changed to hey this this guy's either the next Gretzky or he's the next Crosby. Have you had a chance to reflect on that over the course of your career like I guess hockey culture might be a little bit different maybe you don't have guys coming up to you saying like hey you were my favorite player growing up as a kid but have you had a chance to kind of think about how crazy that whole full circle thing has been or is a little bit hard when you're still dominating at your age this late in your career. Yeah it's it's hard but I think you do start to realize it I mean you know whether it's you're playing against guys kids that you played against now and you know things like you said where you're you're a young guy saying that you know you were his favorite player stuff like that so I think that it's not something you typically ever get used to but it's it's a little more common now and I think you know being in this position the more you can help I had so many guys as a young player that helped me so I think that's something I try to remind myself of and at the same time you're still out there trying to compete you're still trying to play at the top of your game and and try to balance all that so I guess it's it's different that way but it's no different than the challenge you have coming in as a young player with something to prove not knowing much there's challenges with that too so I think they just change you know the longer you play but that's something that has definitely been a lot more common you know yeah it's an older shit yeah your old ass man yeah it's been fun to watch and you're still playing at such a high level I assume that's a treat for all the young dogs out there every once in a while they still have to catch a stick to the mouth though you know every once in a while that's going to have to happen it's hockey how do you feel about the state of hockey right now you talked about coming out of the lockout being a lot of pressure for you and the boys but then some rule changes happen to kind of open the game up now how do you feel about where hockey is being played right now versus maybe whenever you came into the league yeah I think there's a lot more emphasis on skill and speed and I think you know you look at teams lineups and they dictate that a lot you know based on how teams are made up and who's won and and what's made teams successful I think you still look at teams like Florida who've had a ton of success the last few years you know they're they're talented they're skilled and fast but there's still a lot of grit to their game so I think that that element is still there but maybe maybe a little bit less emphasis on you know the physical aspect and then maybe you know when I first came in you look at defensemen they're a lot more mobile probably overall you know right through you know all the D-men I think there's a lot of focus on being able to move the puck being able to skate join the rush create offense not necessarily as much maybe on shop blocking and things like that but that stuff's still super important and has a huge you know huge bearing on the outcomes of games so you'll see in the playoffs that stuff's magnified even more and oh but I think yeah the skill and speeds kind of just gradually gotten more and more can you say I'll come again I never heard that I don't think in a Canadian accent that's that's both of them that's a compound Canadian yeah outcome need to add that into the repertoire whenever we're doing sorry sorry who to come is you know I'm gonna do all that I like that you said you know it's a little bit more speed and skill that's our game too football is like speed skill we need to get highlights we need to do that you have created them for so long not scared to be the passer you know that's why I thought maybe LeBron would be his guy yes you know I've kind of been dominating throughout the same same exact run so it'll be a little bit of younger kids who see the LeBron's last dance and then that's when it'll kind of or same season Sid hasn't seen enough LeBron because he's been doing his own LeBron thing LeBron's been doing here unless he's out there in Montana there's no service he can't see exactly yeah especially I don't know how I don't know how he's still doing it it's absolutely incredible what he's doing yes same yeah exactly yeah talk to the mirror brother we uh we appreciate the hell out of you for everything you've done for Pittsburgh but also the game thank you for operating in the manner in which you do on the ice off the ice as a leader as a person in society we uh we genuinely appreciate the way you've done things and you tell tags get his ass back in that equipment room we need to win a series against the Flyers I'll let him know thanks a lot guys I appreciate it it was fun you're the man ladies and gentlemen Sidney Crosby yes I don't know if that's the most he's ever spoke that was sick the most I've ever heard him talk for sure as we're in the middle of it I'm like oh we should get some life stuff here I don't know how many people are gonna be able to hear from him ever again first time ever getting talked to him so pumped thought it was never gonna take place on this particular program the fact that him Gino and Tanger showed up at big night out now they said you kind of forced us right it was uh we were gonna be home but then they showed up right there too like they're just always around each other it's yeah you do that coming in it was great shit talking uh with them and learning about them they've been around each other for so long and obviously have had so much success so anytime you have that obviously great camaraderie uh hockey is an incredible culture it's an incredible sport and the playoffs are ridiculous and Sidney Crosby is back in there and it's a problem because much like everybody says you know Steph Curry he can get hot and go penguins can go now everybody's talking about that team right there being the one they're saying Colorado is a problem they're saying they are an absolute problem and uh that's what everybody's saying but we shall see the NHL playoffs kind of figure itself out as it goes on and people get injured will never know somebody will have broken back out there we'll find out afterwards that they actually had to pick his ass up and shove him onto the ice and he couldn't sit down on the bench because he actually had a broken tail boom yeah he played for two and a half periods or whatever just couldn't finish the game it's like that's what hockey culture is it's crazy Florida has owned hockey yep this year will be brand new no we rest hopefully as Sidney Crosby yeah Tampa Sidney Crosby brings it all the way back uh let's pivot from Sidney Crosby to another goat ladies and gentlemen a college football national champion super bowl champion Ryder Cup winner AJ Hawks yeah oh he's glowing for Mania are you are you heading out for uh Wrestle Mania out there in Las Vegas AJ yeah I don't know after I saw what Cody did to the Thunderdome and what Dibara DeBone actually may or may not be a part of yeah I don't know I'm thinking about it you kind of put me through a loop I didn't even once think that he would be able to boom bang well you guys the fact that you said he has the brain of a peanut and Ty says no not a shelled peanut when you take the shell off that small that I didn't take that into account I thought I give I give DeBone some credit I think he is smart what are those Chinese uh finger trimmer at a mommy no oh yeah the Russian nesting doll there they are Russian nesting doll what yeah the Russian nesting doll that sits inside of the other one yeah oh sure you take it off you pull the smaller one yeah yeah hold the smaller one what Ty was trying to say with the unshelled uh uh not he's you're taking all those exactly we're getting way down in the bottom of that yeah yeah that's that's what's connected to his spine and uh I'll tell you incredible at graphics but there's no way he set this up and knew this was going to happen now on that note I don't like the Cody did this no not at all I don't I saw a picture last night of bone hugging Cody so what liked one of Cody's photos that Cody posted had the strap with Wayno and he liked it see AJ what you don't know everybody here wants everybody in here wants to be in a fire DeBone okay that's everybody wants suspension maybe not not fire suspension maybe suspension leave of absence if we all fill up a pillowcase with rocket beat the piss out of yeah just get them back I don't think we can do a little bit firing squad sucks in batteries Cody I mean that was good for Cody though I would say like good for Cody now that we're kind of emotionally out of this particular situation because it's been cleaned up still got to whoa I mean that's some pretty damning evidence right there was that bone oh this AI oh man no that's not AI let's build McComis's photo can we move along please can we move along I don't like thinking about that did I get a dinner afterwards and is his name actually DeBone and we didn't even know it till now that's been a point I don't like the way he just casually walks by him there and then not even a reaction not even a it was that a thank you with the computer spike yeah like did he say thank you thanks to bone while he did that maybe we don't know that's my assumption and now and I asked yesterday who Wayno was on remember I actually said I wonder who side Wayno is on the great one look at that Cody smoking cigs well guess who's got you do yeah you're right well I don't know if Sid knows anything about any of it but I would hope he'd be on my side he is I hope he's a huge mark yeah he's uh yes he has time for all of that he certainly has time for all of that okay we got some bad news for next NFL season uh feels like the replacement reps probably gonna happen yeah we've seen his song and dance before AJ you closer maybe than anybody else but this is not good news now granted everything is posturing okay everything is leveraged especially whenever there is negotiating taking place especially whenever it's high leverage negotiating kind of taking place the officials at the NFL understand they are a very a very crucial crucial part to the game they also understand that they are a tight union okay that is a tight union so what the NFL has to deal with is how do we modernize what we are expecting from these officials with these officials being a very tough negotiation regardless pool reporters after games that get typed up is really the only accountability that officials have ever had and there's no follow-up there's no real anything there's no face of the music there's no admission of anything there's an email that's get sent to each team from the head it's like I think we all are looking for some things but those things have never happened before for the officials so there's never been precedent in the negotiation for it anytime you're adding things to uh negotiation or an agreement gonna be tough gonna be tough and especially with what happened the last time this all took place the officials ended up with all of the leverage okay it was kind of like oh yeah is that right that's what the official said whenever the NFL and the players had to lock out situation the NFL had the overwhelming mindset that these players will run out of money and they will have to negotiate with us okay for the refs it's not the case they're not full time they have other jobs most of them very very successful other jobs lawyers uh I think there's some accountants in there I think there are some business owners financial advisors I think they're they're very these people are going to be able to remain tight and they're going to have money all they are going to have to do is wait out the bad replacement officials embarrassing the game and then they will find their position of leverage back with the NFL so the NFL said we have to learn from that we have to get the ass officials and make them not as ass so they are starting to do that process right now AJ Hawk remember my final point here as I continue to ramble because this is a very important thing um the refs that we're going to get for replacement refs are refs that think they'll never have a chance being NFL refs because if they ref in the NFL they would technically be considered a scab to the NFL as officials organization and you don't want to so we're talking ass of ass with no chance of not being ass signing up to be refs when we don't have refs but they're trying to teach them how not to be ass I think that's good news but inevitably this is going to be a bummer I think AJ yeah I mean I think it's good news you're trying to get them better get them out there during OTA's get them around the NFL game a little bit but my question is who are these refs because if you are an official you're are most likely already assigned to a crew and have a job next year if you're a college official right I would assume you know what you're doing next year this is like high school guys that people that want to try or what like who who is open to it first I I we need somebody out there yeah that's what I'm saying call him that we need somebody at least with some conviction now I've seen some of the games that he ref and there were some terrible calls being called but they don't have cameras they don't have technology he has the moxie though to deliver what we need that's a whole first time I love everything about him that we need to find that as well they need to be teaching that because those replacement refs getting out there and yep ah personal foul yeah defense number what what number 27 there's no 27 on the field is this thing on still they can hear everything I'm fucking saying but I don't eat that no and that's the least of our worries yeah but in that can be an actual worry yes everything about it spotting the ball in the right hash instead of the wrong hash what ball is in play where every little thing these officials who are currently negotiating with the NFL know what they do they they uh AJ we cannot be doing a replacement stuff also in NFL news YouTube who lost Sunday ticket to uh Disney through YouTube TV will be at Disney in ESPN next year they have negotiated a deal to get five NFL games are these the games that were from the double headers potentially that became available YouTube who has been investing into the NFL over the last couple years had a Christmas game mr beast did some stuff they really unloaded on it I think they had a lot of streamers I think they're excited to be in business with them and I think the NFL is excited that YouTube is now a part of this as well AJ in a bigger way yeah so it where it says at the bottom the league had additional inventory to sell after eliminating the Monday night football double headers did they do that just to do this to open up another revenue stream here with YouTube and things like that yes and I don't know we're not privy to the conversation but remember ESPN in Disney purchased NFL network right so they pick up more games naturally because NFL network has games so we don't know let's say we in their mind double header Monday night football with none of us really so that opens up some games so now they're able to resell those things so the NFL is looking for games to open up okay they are looking for games to open up currently remember there was going to be like a a bid like an auction for some games yes yeah it's crazy time to be the NFL good for them joining us now is the man who knows the draft inside and out he is the voice of the combine here in Indianapolis color commentator for the Chargers ladies and gentlemen let's move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah yeah I do what's up boys I'll tell you what I guarantee you there's some high school refs right now that are at the gym curls and forearms they are getting ready to put that little medium outfit on and go out there and just flex for the universe it scares me DJ it scares me honestly with where the game is with how many people are watching with how much money is being bet on these games and from what it was with those replacements just my own personal experience with the replacement refs yeah everything was bad everything you're not a big fan of one going like this and one going like this that's what I'm saying everybody remembers the fail mary there was what yeah 82 other plays in that game yeah where there was probably a lot of stuff in the refs matter man it really matters so I like that we got new york potentially and we got more cameras but who's doing it in new york because those people are officials is let's move along let's get to the draft okay let's talk about next week in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania we cannot wait to celebrate the next generation for you what's the big conversation you think about this draft number two because I heard uh david bailey did not take a visit to the Jets in their top 30 but he could potentially be number two overall they're going to go with a defense guy at number two there's not going to be another quarterback until maybe late in the first for nanda's a lock for the Raiders what is kind of your storyline that is brewing as we're about a week out from the first round of the NFL draft well I mean I think it starts too you know I we don't know what they're going to do I've I've been leaning towards bailey later in the process but that's not based off like some rock solid intel just kind of reading into the situation and talking to folks around the league that seemed to be a little bit more of the expectation but we don't know so that's wide open I would say and just talking to the gms around the league over the last couple weeks that the positions get in heat are the tackle position and the receiver position those the ones you're just hearing like the run could start early and it's going to go those guys are going to all fly off the board so that can inform some of the decisions for the teams that have two picks cleveland being one of them there at six if you know they need both those positions so you know there there's a chance they're going to miss out at 24 on both of them in terms of the premier guys so what's the the greater need there that's why I've been leaning more towards the tackle for them early but yeah there's a there's fun conversation I mean I was talking to someone the other day pat that was telling me you know on the agent side and they've talked to this team and they're dialed in with this player in this team take it to the bank and then talk to a position player at that team later that afternoon and he's like there's no chance we're not we're not doing that so like it's like it's all over the map right now dude yeah dj i have a follow-up on that because I was just listening to everything hearing the same thing like the run on tackles is going to be the story of the first round the over under is set at seven and a half and I believe seven of those will be tackles then you'll get the guard from Penn State who would be potentially be eight I heard you and Bucky breaking down numbers the other day as far as position groups and averages and who's going to go where do you think we are going to get get to that eight offensive linemen in the first round and who would be the last who is who is going to be the offensive linemen that we're waiting on potentially is that last one in the first round yeah I think it's Ihan Achor the the kid from Arizona State who's new to football you know moved over to America from Nigeria at 13 didn't play high school football you know junior college goes to Arizona State and has gotten better and better and better and has like first round ability in his body it's just you know getting a little more consistent so normally that's a second round profile but there's just so many needs that I think he's got a chance to get into the bottom of one so him and low move from Utah the other tackle at Utah would be the two guys there but I mean those other guys are those guys are going man you can take that to the bank dj I definitely didn't just run to the bathroom while you were giving your answer there and but I heard you say my name in the bathroom I just wanted to know I appreciate you talking about how you're hearing one thing and you're hearing something completely different there's something that's completely different that could happen in this particular draft I think it's only happened one time in the past in 1967 do you know that the Michigan State Spartans had four players drafted in the top 10 of the NFL draft the Ohio State Buckeyes could tie that this year with a defense that is absolutely stacked historic in a wide receiver in a wide receiver class that hasn't really been chatted about that much other than is Jordan Tyson healthy I don't know now we got a chance for a record breaking type night for the Ohio State Buckeyes AJ has a question for you on that note yeah dj of course you see the four guys from Ohio State we have up on the border is it possible that the Ohio State has five guys go in the first round do you think it is this will happen where you have these four guys go in the top 10 well I mean look I think Reese Styles and I would put Tate in there I feel real good about those three and downs he obviously is a top 10 player it's just a position and you know how that sorts out as we go through the top 10 I would say it's greater than 50 chance he goes but he's kind of the one that would be on that borderline just off position and you mentioned five and Caden McDonald is kind of in that Caden McDonald is going to go like 25 to 35 in my opinion the detacle so you know there's a very real chance you see another buck I come off the board man it's a it's a heck of a group there the one the one that I'm most intrigued by of worry lands is Styles just because like I I love the fit of him with the Giants I know the Giants can go in a lot of different directions but when I look at that division and you look at Jaden Daniels specifically like is there a better human being on planet earth to try and defend Jaden Daniels than him I mean to be able to run sideline to sideline to suck him up if you want to suck him up you want to run and then have the length you want to run RPOs he's got the length to be able to cut all that stuff off in the middle of the field so I would love him there okay on that note D but has a question for you yeah he's perfectly set up kind of this question right here Jeremiah Love is well who I think is the best player in this draft in my opinion is a positional value kind of changing or kind of throwing out the window when it comes to this draft you told my sunny Styles there off-ball linebacker Caleb down safety and then uh Jeremiah Love running back typically positions over the last few years that don't go high in the draft that's kind of out of the window with how this draft lines up I think so D but I think the smart teams will view it that way um you know look I'm all about the premier positions and I and I get that you prioritize that if you're similarly graded but I have a hard time passing up a player you've got a you know a 7-0 grade on and just placing somebody else above him who's got a 6-4 or 6-5 you know the grading seal I used to to work in like I just don't think that's smart business I think you want to you know take great players if you have an opportunity to do it the running back is the one that's just a little bit different just because of the shelf life um so you want all those those carries to matter you know I've been preaching that over the years but to me the gap between him and some of the other guys like if you're the Tennessee Titans maybe you're not fully equipped to show him off in year one but I think you know another offseason you would be in that situation so I think you would see a good Jeremiah Love in Tennessee this year and I think if they continue to add pieces you could see an elite Jeremiah Love in 27. DJ we all got sources don't we? Uh huh. Well according to my source says there's a chance somebody goes like 11 or goes 24 and goes like 26 and maybe goes like 12 do you think that's true and what do you think that means for Draft Night? Yeah it's going to make it fun and interesting because it is you know there's wide ranges on some of these guys like I love like one of my guys is I like the Toledo Safety I'm a big fan of McNeil Warren but there's teams that have him in the middle of the second round there's teams that think he's a top 15 type player so um that's a that's going to be a fun one to follow on on Draft Night where does he end up going? Mezzadors is wildly polarizing he's a little bit older um and he's someone you know a lot of his wins come inside you know as an edge rusher you know he's out there but a lot of those wins come over guards I really like him and I think in a draft where we don't have a lot of interior pass rush he might be the best interior pass rusher in the draft when you kick him in there but other teams ding him you know like well I don't know if he can consistently win on the edge at the NFL level and then uh he's a little bit older so yeah I mean these guys I'm I'm serious it's like top 15 pick middle second round pick I've heard that more this year than any other year okay so our source I assume that we are talking to different people I would assume it feels like everybody has their own world in this everybody's trying to go off their own judgment of everything and from what we're all hearing from outside with the sources inside it's like I don't I don't know if anybody really knows who's going to be available when I think everybody is very much wondering who's going to be available when and on that note as we wrap up here in two minutes go ahead come in yeah DJ in recent memories is this the most kind of all over the place unknown drafts that you've been a part of like it feels like normally at least when it comes to player grades from teams they are in you know a similar range but you know I've heard you talk about Jordan Tyson and I've seen him yeah up in the top 10 and then I've seen him in the second round like it does this feel like the most hey I have no idea what's going to happen a week from now aside from Mendoza going one overall yeah I think there's a lot of good players in this draft but there's not a lot of really clean players you know when you talk about Bain and the Armlake Mestidor and the age Jordan Tyson's had the injuries every year so you know how did teams review that I think they all view them as players the same like in terms of how they would value the talent it's just about how much they value the the risk associated with it so that's where you get a lot of fluctuation and the other thing I would say is when you have you know really kind of the one premier quarterback you know the the quarterbacks kind of navigate everything everything kind of moves around them the trades kind of move around the quarterbacks and right now it's Mendoza one and everybody in the league expects Ty Simpson's going to be a cardinal when the draft's over it's just a matter of where they want to you know pull the card so with that kind of removed it takes away some of the certainty in the draft and changes things up I can't wait for it Thursday night in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania when are you getting over there Sunday Sunday night man I'll be in there all week by the way real quick I think you and Dan are in a good place now and that makes me happy yeah I'm glad that you guys are in a good spot I don't know if I told you this Pat but like when right when that whole thing was going on this is in the too much information category I went to the podiatrist I had a foot doctor appointment the podiatrist walks in the foot doctor walks in he goes he sees me he goes oh you're getting excited for the draft they go yeah yeah I can't wait he goes man Orlowski really loves Ty Simpson huh and I'm like even to Christmas my podiatrist hey that's the draft it's always excellent we continue on the others yeah I think I yeah yeah I don't know what I was gonna say there we're still live DJ we are still live we just wrapped up on ESPN right there we're still on ESPN plus Disney plus YouTube TikTok live in X nice there's still a lot of people listen to everything you're gonna say way to land the plane on the podiatrist yeah did you see the countdown did you see the countdown no did I get it in yeah perfect time couple seconds okay how's your foot America almost pissed out on that little nugget that would have been that would have been hey thank you for saying that we care that's a good question AJ how's the foot how's the foot or both feet what's going on man that's that's what separates him by the way it's not just a tan it's the it's the heart that he that he possesses uh yeah I had I had a cyst that they drained uh it's kind of gross but they uh yeah but it's good I'm good now we're we're gonna be fine we're gonna be draft ready I'm sitting down the whole time we're good what are those things called on the outside corns yeah onions onions no no that's gross no this is not that this is just like this is like on the side of your ankle like you'd get a cyst anywhere else on your body like a blister you take that big needle in there and just are you talking about a blister no no it's like you you've had a cyst before right pat a blister I've had a blister it's similar but not like I watched uh it's like a nodule it's like a nodule let's use words that we know man it looks like a big not weird it looks like a pellet it looks like a little pellet not like that jeez live morgan's for that's your foot dude jay bro that sucks what are you doing that's just normal for you you're like you've never had one of these this is the problem this is the problem with the draft see your foot you put your foot on both feet up here that's not an accurate it's not it before it's the draft baby yeah now it's it's come on it's like a little pee it's like a little pee on the uh on the side of your ankle it's gone now and what happened was just a little uncomfortable it was just a little uncomfortable with the shoe so I got it off so I don't think I've ever had that I didn't know it's gonna come back now though like it can they guarantee you won't come back they can't they can't guarantee it AJ that's a great question they can't guarantee it but um they also the doctor also did me a solid and then got some cortisone in there afterwards like even you know if it does but you're not feeling anything that I felt amazing how many of these have you had because you did ask me as if I didn't like just under say this a normal thing I've had I've had other cysts but that you know where I know like you go to the dermatologist I had one on my head before which was kind of weird so you're sitting there and they just took the thing that one they did the little incision and they're just gonna take the cyst out you know okay so is it a is a removal like I had a skin tag I think down here one time and they like yeah this is under the skin yeah this on burn the skin okay so are they popping it like what's that stuff like testing make sure cancer free and shit oh yeah yeah yeah they've uh yeah they've done that before my podiatrist did not gosh I hope I don't have foot cancer now you got me your diet sounds like it's out on lunch well your podiatrist's worried about over a lot of stuff let's start reading some fucking foot book please man do your job good job he had good degrees he has good degrees he has good on the wall yeah he's chatty bt and his phone is what he has okay good degrees and he's played a lot of good golf courses that's how I oh yeah I want that tells me that he sounds like a dickhead listen I don't know him personally but he's watching you if he serves everything I'm here about he's a fan of the show that's why he knew about her lasky he loves you guys oh so he appreciates what you said he likes that we just cooked immediately yeah thank you doc for doing all that and now he's thinking too much for DJ yes he certainly does uh okay ty has a question for you DJ about the draft coming up yeah DJ it sounds like it might be a crapshoot and it's pretty polarizing but uh this late in the game which guy or guys are really flying up the board or at least on your board I've saw a lot of mocks you know early in the process Kaden Proctor's you know late first round maybe second round and I think it was either yesterday morning or something like that I saw that you know they had him going maybe in the in the mid-teens uh are there a couple guys who are really starting to kind of fly up the board as we get closer to the draft yeah I would say more kind of in that back of one and then really in that second round is the names you're hearing a lot of juice and buzz Malachi Lawrence from UCF to edge rusher everybody loves him and when you talk to a bunch of teams and they all say and we'd love this guy in the second round you know when you get enough of them that say that you're like oh okay maybe somebody just wants to jump the line here and uh and he surprises us and sneaks into the bottom at one so that would be one um Traden Stooks from Arizona because he's got the nickel safety flex and he's real his super athletic smart kid he's been great on the interviews uh he's he's another one kind of in that early second round range um stripling the receiver from old miss has you know the tape's good he ran fast and then the the interviews and the meetings with teams have gone exceptionally well so he I thought he was like a third round guy and now I'm beginning to think he doesn't get out of the second round so those are three names that have kind of caught some heat here at the end what's your plan for Pittsburgh Sunday through Sunday that's a long time but what are you got any we got any plans to go anywhere there's got him Frank out there he's open arms I think he's cooking for everybody beast I saw him I don't know if you've got a chance to see him on the internet this is he uh this is him right here you gotta check him out he's got all the answers I'm like he echoes the sentiments of uh thousands of old yinzers around uh Pittsburgh Pennsylvania but what he said he looks like the drummer of like a drummer in a man yes he does chance man honestly could be we have we have yeah like the chili peppers right is that who we're yeah that's Chad Smith yeah Chad Smith is gonna be pretty pissed that he said that he's Will Ferrell right yeah yeah that's Will Ferrell yeah that's Will Ferrell I don't know if Frank looks like Will Ferrell and to be honest I don't know if Frank's pumped up about you saying he looks like Will Ferrell either but on that now just a hat backwards yeah chiseled the chiseled jawbone there like that's a good look how you get in you get in you got two two lanes in you got two lanes out and then they said well just go down and take the bus park somewhere else get a hotel I looked it up what's it the Regency or something eight hundred dollars for what for what to stand next to people and pee all over each other it's gonna smell that he is a generation of yinzers I gotta look that up I gotta look that one up he's gotta generate he by the way great promo out of this guy I would assume he is a very chirpy fella and I assume he brings the noise whenever I assume at parties that guy is awesome we appreciate Frank because he is echoing the sentiment of a lot of uh older yinzers that we also know talking about the hassle that it's gonna be to get down into the draft but with everything we've seen it looks like it is about to be a phenomenal time down there oh I can't wait man I think so the way the NFL has grown this draft is special I think I genuinely think it is a special thing DJ obviously you've been a part of it since the move and everything that's happened it's become a really cool cool time to be a football fan there it's it's like a traveling you know rock show you use the same analogy it's just that the crowds are massive and it's all like I don't see fights at any of these things like everybody's just having fun they're having a good time wow see what they're doing so they didn't fight in Philly they're not like no yeah I'll tell you what though I'll tell you what speaking of fights I mean my Padres a we don't lose and I mean we're fighting for puffer jackets and the end on the way into the stadium like there's a good intensity going with our ball club what's going on the brown the Padres had a giveaway like first you know 10 000 fans get like a Padres puffer jacket and people were just beating the shit out of each other trying to get them and then the Padres go on to we talked about it earlier massive comeback in the ninth inning to beat the Mariners I'm puffer nice by by the way I was I was on the plane coming home late last night and I'm watching this game and everybody in the play it's like almost midnight everybody in the plane to sleep so they win and I'm friends with with Heward and Salk the radio guys up in Seattle so I wanted to send them a picture of my reaction I didn't realize I don't do a lot of selfies I take the picture it's a flash I think I woke up the not a good look damn you always look like big-time asshole whatever that happens it's it's even worse whenever you know you accidentally hit the camera thing and it's out and the flash goes and I'm only saying that as somebody that uh we've had that happen to us plenty of times we're just kind of standing somewhere and then all of a sudden a flash is to our side and we look and it's somebody just going oh shit they're trying to sneak one by the goalie it's like hey do you want to take a picture no no no are you sure you want to stick it in sure you want to have to try to use footage I've never been on the receiving end there Pat you will though DJ especially in Pittsburgh you're camping out there for a week uh that's a long time will we see you Wednesday night I hope so I got to do my my final mock draft Wednesday night so that's the show we got to do but I'm gonna try and get over there after that's over okay cool yeah please do yeah it'll be a good time the people at the Cayman Science Center miss Stacy okay miss Lizzie with the catering mhm miss Lizzie with the catering at the Cayman Science Center uh they don't normally bring food from outside the Science Center in sure sure so miss Lizzie has been uh a lot of extra work here okay to get Dallas Alice in there get Rudy's have to get Permanese in there you know so miss Lizzie is an angel we like say thank you to her miss Stacy legend okay over there it's this is kind of her event oh yeah it's it's kind of become her event and it's not the only event miss Stacy setting up another event over at the Warhol Museum as well she's a weapon a lot of events a lot of events happening around the draft but the Wednesday one um basically the reason why I wanted to do it is because uh NFL film is the football town the thing 53 minute video uh 54 minute I forget what is exactly but it's it basically just explains Pittsburgh this from the voice or I haven't seen it yet it was going to be the first time I was going to see it was during the draft and that was I feel like the people that are going to be on air for the next four days talking from Pittsburgh it'd be a cool thing to know like it's a lot of information that's going to come through as you're on on the air and the fact that I was lucky enough to be a part of it incredibly dope but I feel like it's sweet it should be a super casual like you're gonna get food from around Pittsburgh uh it's just like a welcome to Pittsburgh type event it's kind of what it is and then we're gonna watch this thing I'm gonna watch it for the first time and then hopefully we have the greatest draft of all time and uh I'm excited for it the interns are going to be pumped about it oh yeah they've looked up a lot of negative things for them to get mad about yeah she is just baby but they are gonna they're gonna be pumped it's gonna be special and uh Daniel Jeremiah can't wait to watch you work brother I appreciate it man hey it's by the way are you guys having rogers on for an announcement or anything before the draft or what's the deal there he's busy DJ no he's working out why don't you fuck off you know man why don't you fuck off good night that was a reasonable question it wasn't we got all going on over here okay and do you think it's on us to tell the man whose committee is entire being the football that he needs to make his decision he now some people would say yes actually at that draft if he was to walk out at that draft with gadel at the beginning and just do all I'm coming back I love you all it's been an honor to be here and then just walks off a mixed reaction I think Tony Tony made from you it's right before the draft he's given his answer that's exactly what he was supposed to do I'm just saying I've seen polls on Twitter and stuff like that I think it would be a mixed reaction on people what is Dan Dawkins say about polls online okay you do unless they got a GAP they're not real polls yeah they're not taking polls oh yeah that is what he said they're not taking who's taking polls online just saying I'm just trying to relay information here it is kind of an interesting situation there rogers online polls he's not he's not making a decision until all the bodily fluids in his beanbag have been depleted okay we talked about this he basically told us that last time he was on if he still got juice in there no decision once that's once the spickets dried up he'll decide he's at it yeah big mic gets that DJ I don't know if you listen to our conversation with him he does understand no he's been I don't know if you heard our conversation with him he gave us nothing on anything because he looked like he was in incredible shape so I was like okay I can ask him a question here we're at least gonna have to get something hey you're staying in incredible shape so are you working like what are you you know like what are you doing in there and his answer I don't know if you saw this was he's staying in shape so he can have sex with his wife that's what he said respect jenny rile yes the rude bud make sure you put that in your write up for the draft and he is very jacked so that is a part of the story so there's a chance what Ty said is accurate there and we're just kind of waiting on the day that there's no more no more I like I was just I was just I was just curious if he was gonna come on and see if I'm not but I feel like I did gather a lot of extra information yeah welcome to the program and the Steelers like will hire okay what another year will hire behind Rogers would would kind of put them on the Jordan Love perfect trajectory yeah did they have that pull out like do you think it would be a good idea for will hire to get another year in Mike McCarthy's offense behind Aaron Rodgers did that there was that a poll no the poll was do you like Aaron Rodgers do you want to be your quarterback and overwhelmingly no who put the poll out who put the poll it was 93 7 the fan oh what the fuck that used to be b94 and I'll tell you what I learned about the backstreet boys and in sync through them now they're out here doing these types of polls can't wait to get back to Pittsburgh I love it they're stirring it up DJ um yeah Fernanda Mendoza I don't like that he was on the cover of a magazine and it says perfect across him the way was that today we saw a picture yeah but the full sentence was that a perfect plan yeah but I don't like that they put perfect right across him as somebody who is a massive right here I don't like that I don't get screen shot if you're not a game yeah it's a lot of pressure and obviously Fernando doesn't hear the outside noise he's locked in I mean he wins a Heisman he wins a national championship in his hometown he takes in the end of the places that they've never been so let's just assume that this is not something but in the past this is a setup yeah this would be what we call a setup how do you feel about Fernando after kind of your final evaluation or have you just kind of decided he's number one overall pick what's moved to learning about everybody else that's also going to be taking up night one of the NFL draft yeah he's been in the books for me I think if you took that little box that was over the word perfect and put it over the word plan I'm in agreement with it you know like it's to me like it is the I love the plan that they're doing there you go out and get cousins he's going to be able to learn from him watch him a little bit you're not going to you know put him out there until he's got the complete understanding of this offense which is going to give him a greater chance to be successful you go get linderbomb I think they'll do some other things in this draft to help that offense get you know get a big X receiver out there another guard get Colt Miller back you bring in an offensive coach I do think the plan has been really really good there he's not a perfect player nobody is but I like the way they're approaching it and he's been the hay's been in the barn on him for a long time for me I saw what I needed to see as Dan Dan's gone quiet right doesn't he about that whole thing yeah he's just waiting for drafting that no basically because every single person's been like yeah don't know everyone just stopped listening he's still saying it no but to be clear I don't think anybody knows like I think there's a lot of I think there's a lot of different messaging going on because Dan's going to say that because he hears it from somebody yeah like right we assume Dan heard it from somebody or 12 to 15 GM's yeah 12 to 15 GM said like I don't know that was a little that I think that's kind of what you know one and also what big games that too well I think he did he say I'm gonna I think he said like coaches and decision makers I don't think he said specifically GM but you know we yeah I mean yeah but he he does I mean he's in private and you guys have talked to him like he's the Ty Simpson guy like there's nothing I agreed I'm actually about he's all in on it so he's gonna be I mean you I I believe firmly he's gonna be a cardinal you guys think any other teams coming to the play there I just think he's a cardinal stealers whether or not they absolutely not Steelers no I don't see it we already did that with Kenny Pickett I don't know yeah I don't know if he's big enough better than Kenny Pittsburgh is gonna want a big guy I think and Mike McCarthy wants massive hands they brought it they brought in Carson Beck and Drew Aller for the top 30 visits so yeah that's not their type but DJ I do have a question after Ty who do you think the third will be and what are your thoughts on Cole Payton as the third quarterback potentially yeah I think it'll be Beck just because of you know the the resume you know the number of games big games the size the kind of the prototypical stuff that he possesses I know you know the knock on him was kind of the just like the attitude and people didn't necessarily love the kid the Georgia period of time but it sounds like he's you know he grew up over his time at Miami so that's you know he's helped himself in the visits he's been solid on all the visits he's got good football intelligence so he would be the one I would you know if I was gonna guess I think it'll be him Cole Payton he's fun I mean he's a fun player to watch I think he's got somebody fun to work with I'm just curious how how early you would you know go there how early does that that ride start I would say it's more like the fourth round would be my guess but I mean look it you know we can do this you can you could talk to 29 30 teams and get one answer it only takes one and then you know all bets are off you're talking to 29 30 teams like Dan or Lofsky no I'm saying you could theoretically I didn't know I didn't know I was like holy fuck that's a lot of conversations I don't have that yeah I don't have that I don't have that going on yeah the ability that is an ability that only the insiders possess shallow enough conversation to keep the conversation going but depth that it feels like it's a relationship on both sides and then also immediately available all the time so that that is kind of the difference I think and thank you know the best guys you know who the best sources are on this stuff by the way I don't think you guys would be surprised by this but it's coaches outside the building like if you go back and look over the years like the good stuff that you get it's from a coach who has a relationship with a coach because they talk about everything whereas like the personnel guys are a little bit more close to the vest it's a little more guarded the circles pretty tight but you get yourself somebody who's best friends with a defensive coordinator offensive coordinator with another team you can that's where the good stuff comes yeah equipment managers are normally going to put you over so they're not going to say anything bad strength coaches around all the time but nobody's going to say anything bad security guys are great rats because you go you you get the security if you have relationships with security guys because they're having to do all the late background work because that because gms are paranoid so it's like hey just double check on this kid make sure there's nothing that you know we don't know about that happened in his past and so uh I don't I don't know this one anymore there was I only had one that I was that I had a good deal with a good relationship with and he would tell me like man I just get a lot of homework on these lat these two guys over the last week and I was like oh the security guy making 25 bucks an hour well big dumb I mean no these guys these are these are you mean like big don't big don't yes big big doms are the elites of information no no I'm just there's some people that were in that role that if you had connections to them you could get some you can get some good stuff there I don't like that one but you're supposed to be the most secure hello block it down that's your whole entire purpose the guys are in the background checks yeah DJ did you say pretty matter of factly on one of his shows that AJ Brown's going to New England so oh what's security guys yeah right Dom ain't talking to nobody about nothing no he got no no yeah there's nothing that is uh that is some of the that is some of the just you know paying attention to what's going on there and then looking at the additions that they've made and no one uh that's kind of that's how the Eagles operate that's more their their jam on the AJ Brown thing yeah I'm not talking to Dom but if you look at everything they're fucking doing yeah chef kind of said the same pretty safe to say AJ Brown's got a new team coming around is that going to happen draft night then is that what that happens or I don't think so I think it's a June I think it's a June deal so don't a designation haven't you done this in a past where they just designated for that time yeah and the information guys would have better better scoopery on that in terms of how that works I don't I don't think that they could I just remember there was another there was another there was another deal that happened in the last couple years where I was talking to a team about a player and they said well we don't need that we've already got something kind of cooking uh for June so they had to wait got it all right well the post June 1 designation is obviously a special time as is draft season especially for you so thank you for taking the time will you join us on Friday live from Pittsburgh absolutely I love to do you want to go uh what time do you want to be on do you have a preferred time noon to two eastern on ESPN noon to two thirty three ish uh digitally so what time would be good for you um I have no clue what my schedule is Pat but I will make we'll we'll we'll work it out 1210s taking the commissioner of the NFL will be on yes I'm gonna lose that one yeah I feel like you have a history of doing this to me by the way like Olympic gold medalists like just coach K like can we just I just once follow somebody that's dead I won't say on the same level but not so far above me that came to see him you know that would be I was trying to so I was trying to get you to say like man the noon hour would be great so then I could go oh that's what I was trying to do right there and you didn't fall for it I appreciate you doing that I genuinely appreciate that you're the man yeah not a surprise you're the you guys are the best man I'm just excited for this thing to get here and I'm excited this for Pittsburgh to kind of show off a little bit I think it's gonna be awesome hell yeah did you see the colors of the draft on all the logos and everything it's nice like diarrhea green no yellow that is not the color pea poop green and yellow no that is not the color it is a interesting blue mix with the yellow wasn't there like a magenta an orange one too that's there's a pink orange and yellow sure one that we saw a bunch of different signs and logos the whole city is black and yellow it's kind of what it's kind of the it's built for it hey is only old crews catching the ball now since we left oh yeah ladies and gentlemen this guy's a nice old Daniel Jeremiah DJ okay no reason to bring up the bad times from the first two games yeah yeah he has been flawless since yeah we're in the good times right now we're hoisting cones he's swinging a cone he's dunk shot and everything I'd say what thunderball has gotten interesting it's gotten us more into baseball I do believe this just happened really Pittsburgh Bartch just hit this yeah jack goodbye for for in Pittsburgh that's out of a bit yeah the big bear is coming out of his slumber so that's good to see he's big bear winters over dancing bears about to come fuck everybody don't you worry about the leader of the squad as far as you know hitters is concerned okay so uh scheme's got the highest eora on the team I seen yep okay that's because that first inning was tough great news that was tough for saying he's only gonna get better he's eora he's going down as he continues to roll and continues to have we done the uh the balance point yeah has he done that yet oh yeah he's done it no no he hasn't held it but you know he's hitting that balance point I thought I potentially missed I felt like pitching ninja would let me see that he did one of those he had an 18 incher is that what that thing was yes 18 inches of the one the one he's throwing or the one he had he had an eight well he has an 18 he had an 18 incher sweeper I think yeah foot and a half he but who's talking about around diesel I think it was uh yeah I think pitching ninja yeah the replay of this one yeah that thing was 18 I don't know how you these pitches that one's outside the plate and then it's come on yeah that's putting a half movement brother horizontal and then he's also got the vertical movement too if you fuck it up it's change ups deficit show hey with tawny's putting that ball where the fuck he wants him he is fun to watch yeah I mean once you kind of watch baseball more you do realize like okay quarterback's hard left tackle's hard hitting a baseball I mean it has to be the hardest throwing a strike throwing a strike shit yeah thunderball you heard Bryce Hart on the show like oh you can know what's coming still not gonna hit it yeah that's I mean throwing a strike so hard okay so hard with the batters in there obviously just trying to and then hitting a baseball yeah right like man with the limitations on where the fuck that thing has to yeah you know I'll get on top of one a little bit I'll tell you what we were creating rules as we go here with thunderball to try to make it as good as possible throwing meatball yesterday we had how do you get them out is it all force outs or what mound back to the mound or peg they're gonna talk running yeah I talked ran into the wall a couple times fuck did that get out yeah that's big fly some foxy I'll tell you what we lost to uh D-butt dirty and bone and uh yeah well he's actually in from both sides of play it was actually absolutely no reason oh the game winner RBI that fucking New York tried to look at your right hand clean that's gone wow yeah I mean this team very yeah okay yeah that's a homer dirty's a problem dirty's a really good player at this game uh D-butt also from the right side much better than he is from the left side but uh kind of does this thing right for power left oh bye yeah that one felt pretty good it's not so much the hitting that's my big problem it's the pitching that I can't find a fucking shoo you're moving yeah I mean we're playing some real thunderball in here D-bone's throwing some meatballs right there yeah D-bone fucking hits grand slam here in a little bit off of somebody I'll tell you what that out of there D-butt left he hits a it hits a thinger and uh was that a stretch yeah thank you change up yep grand slam bye bye if bone touches it it's gone it's the summer slam yeah bone is a problem in the batter's box box you don't like swinging the bat no he doesn't a lot of guys who don't like that's dirty dirty started really dealing and then talk got in there and uh they don't yeah I mean that was a great play right there that was great play I wasn't out I felt good about that and oh yeah yeah yeah this is a good game this thing takes forever to play but it is a lot of fun safe gotta tweak some rules it's only made us it's only made us appreciate baseball even more game time that was a walkoff right there what was your guy's team name uh yesterday we were team jack robbers happy jack robber congratulations team jackie robinson uh D-bone was on that team dirty was on that team and D-butt were on that team so it's almost the jackie robber yeah yeah three D's yeah yeah they were a good team three and D and they were kind of fucking you know dancing with how the game should be played not you know yeah rolling into beans rolling into no in a wolf ball yeah trying to get hit in a way don't get your base you don't get your base we took well yesterday we're gonna take it out we took it out hey hey hey i tell you what it was a hostile environment for me and dirty what do you mean boy it was it was a hostile environment we had ground balls get kicked that's a lot for just you and dirty though why was it was tough as jackie robinson day with the other team did not seem to wear the 42 jersey he had the battle it was uh got reviews getting sent in fucking three hours later pool reports i'd say overturned calls i saw the chatter i saw the chatter after a meeting i was pretty excited to see that a couple hours after the game foxy was still fucking reeling from the loss trying to find the footage to see if we got somebody or not uh talk goes downward dog is clearly out on the ground review says you're out game should have been over instead Gertie went up and hit a walk off so yeah you guys tell me that's the pool report one ball baby we're up one in the bottom of the third okay in the rule that we had yesterday's three uh people teams uh each person has to pitch an inning at a bro okay five runs per inning is max and uh it was nine eight in the bottom of the third we had two stingy outs i mean we're playing real stingy we had talking there closing because that's what talk does then all of a sudden this play happens and i don't i mean we got foxy's on the ground it's a third out yeah we got i'm jumping in the air i'm so happy we did it i think he's i think he might be out yeah oh oh yeah we did not we did not say save we said we didn't no i saw save call we have the video thank you we have the video see you want to talk about eight day chill it should have talked about yeah i can see you're up against it a little bit deep up against it we got screwed what are we even talking about this is sports baby and i think people are forgetting this is a new york review new york holds all the power so what everyone says on the sideline or in the game doesn't matter yeah but then new york says you're out of here pal that's post game new york says your post game the post game pull report came in sorry yeah no new york you were first that we thought about we're kind of making the rules in the mode post game pull report can actually say if it would have been the final out of the game and we would have won yes yeah we win across all sports besides f1 wants the results are in and we leave the fucking grounds that games over exactly you want this to be like f1 see you in the no exactly right right right don't like that see in the championship game today congratulations great game well we can only play two innings because you guys game took like an hour and 15 minutes so we had so yeah you know but we don't tell you to walk off jack is the pitching in the second game was light years better than the first game that's good yeah it felt like that was going to be a downfall some of the guys myself included i can't fucking hit that thing i think we uh i think we need to entice action in the batter's box yeah i agree i got it we've got to start no one no one and then maybe two fouls with two strikes would be out i think you could take two walks in inning because you still like you know you can't go rule it's bullshit if someone's not throwing strikes and you have to swing at it but you also we're playing wiffle ball this isn't fucking game seven in the world series all right don't go don't go up there looking to fucking walk that's a jackass move it's been happening a lot it's been creeping into the game yeah that was my strategy the entire time exactly that asshole right he's on your team he's on my team i heard you say to him hey fox guys look for a walk here i'm trying to win are we not doing it to us they were doing to us i knew what it was like on the mount when i couldn't fucking find it it's like hey there's no way they're gonna be able to throw three strikes before they throw let's go sit there that was i was playing the game how the game was being played against me there's two types of players too like good-eyed gumps knows where his pitch is yeah you what do you want him to swing at something low something high no gums gonna get on base and get home oh there's a gumps got an eagle eye out there yeah he knows exactly where the balls went i get my axe it a bs what are we doing we're just watching no yeah i know gus wait for his pitch he's got the two holy holy life you know what you're doing yeah somebody's gonna pull a hamstring for sure getting the first yeah left left left okay so all right so everybody's banged up okay good we're gonna just a little thing we're missing mvp yesterday too yeah nick yeah skates so that don't change nick i was told you won four or five i thought you won four or four with four home runs in a grand slam i didn't know you had a no i uh bruce threw me one i chopped it back to him and before i could get the first also pulled my hamstring uh i was out but i don't know what it's like to be on base i either fucking touch home or nothing i like that you haven't been out here on this piece of tape out yeah that's right careful different ball game it is different out there it's good sport i also thought about last night as well if you're a lefty that thing being closed doesn't help us at all okay if i'm trying to rip one into the gap it's coming right back to the to the yeah but you guys get more room here yeah yeah sure but you get plenty of room over there too and you're trying to get it right you get you get way more room this way hey it's how stadiums built buddy that's okay fine anything i'll be back when i'm freaking rip one through that door and walk home later it's not my fault i'll tell you what if you fall through that door yep a grand slam no matter what i'm i'm propping that door open it's tough to get a shark a j it's not a bad idea yeah genius that it's the back wall of that i didn't say that above the uh black railing okay where the jerseys are and then uh brick wall brick pillar to the left is the start of the foul line there okay but if it hits anything like up top like lights the thunder domed shit and it comes back down that's in play that's okay i lost my shoes there yeah i forgot i had to run yep that was part of like life now like oh shit i'm actually trying to run here i gotta get attention it's been fun i wonder how long this will last how long we'll see i might actually stream this one this one might actually make it to like live more fun than watching pickle ball i think definitely one different agacy was great actually i saw some of agacy last night it was good him and james blake that whole situation was fun to watch anna uh anna lee waters beating james blake in straight sets in pickle ball good for pickle ball mm-hmm james blake and andre agacy just winning straight up yeah i guess anna lee and genie bouchard i think that'll kind of just i think andre agacy's only gonna get better yeah yeah i'd like to see him maybe play anna lee it's not a bad idea oh she's an aq not a q yeah i don't know how a q she said he said he had like a 4.9 right that's not even close to them bless pretty hot right man i don't know why he had his own bag with multiple paddles yeah and a backpack yeah he had a backpack yeah with the paddles coming out like it's a quiver yeah i do remember that no way yeah yeah he's kind of skipping in he had his hoax you remember yeah i told us all the rules they were all day and he had his hands in a little sack i was skipping it it's actually i can see i can see him now in the arizona back back uh backyard just walking a couple pickle balls on the right side here where like a couple holder would be on a bag fucking quiver on the other side he come out this way got his shoes on this side yeah rating score right on the back in the the front pocket yeah i fucking jock strapped with a cup he wore a cup because he said oh yeah on the outside of his shorts yeah short shorts yeah i had to let people know what was going on when you come into this kitchen know that it's big that's what aq's doing yeah we gotta get out of here be a frontel for something i change your life when we're singing together team on me we'll see you tomorrow hey mania let's go get your esbn plus premium super duper now get on unlimited get it now that's a no to me too i need to get it now let's all do it it's gonna be a monumental evening in the history of sport saturday night and then sunday is gonna spotlight the in business even more what a time to be alive hell yeah and if i see you in vegas fuck off mm-hmm all of you except for randy or of course of course the goat see saving a business he's one of the 15th world title be a friend tell a friend something nice about change your life we're gonna sing together team on me team on three one two three game goodbye